Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: I buy a W116 300SD
Then I looked closely and it looks like there are vertical wires, thin as hairs. Is this how the defroster is set up on the W116? Sounds just like a 107, or 126. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACC circulation pump running continuously, W116
Can the Chrysler ACC fail in such a way that it's always energized? Absolutely. That's their favorite way to fail! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] My Merc did a million clicks and all they gave me was a lousy badge
http://www.wheels.ca/article/asset/794201 Although I do believe that the million K badges have gold in them. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-ONE-MILLION-KILOMETER-MILEAGE-BADGE-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem51976632dbQQitemZ350432408283QQptZVintageQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Hendrik who is nowhere near a million, unless you add them all together ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tranny filter and gasket---same for gas/diesel early 124s and washing machines?
Yes but your transmission will be so much cleaner with a Miele filter. Hendrik who has a Miele washer, dryer and vacuum cleaner but doesn't use them Dieselhead wrote: You should only use MANN filters in a 124. Rusty has them. Quick question for you guys. I'd like to do a transmission filter and pan-gasket change on my '87 300D. I I have the Miele (I think) kit that includes both the filter and gasket on one big shrinkwrapped card, which I bought for my '86 300E at some point and never used. Is this the same part? I know they're both 722.something transmissions. Thanks, Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 05:59:58 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond wrote: > "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive" had a description and great drawing > of the technique. In fact there are loads of great drawings in that > book which is a great read even if you don't have an aircooled VW. > > > No you can't borrow my copy. So, when are you going to scan the pictures and post them to the list? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACC circulation pump running continuously, W116
Exactly as Mitch described. When I turned off the car, with the ACC on off, you could hear the servo parking it's self if you listened for it. '78 450SLC with the same ACC unit. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Allan Streib wrote: > > Can the Chrysler ACC fail in such a way that it's always energized? >> Even with the main key switch "Off"? >> > > My '79 cranked a little slow the morning after I bought it. Got it home, > parked it a couple of days and the battery was dead flat. > Problem turned out to be a stuck ACC servo that perpetually tried to park > itself. (imagine a wiper motor that's stalled and can't get the blades down > to shut itself off) The car was drawing 0.4A until I pulled that inline > fuse. > > Mitch. > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACC circulation pump running continuously, W116
Allan Streib wrote: Can the Chrysler ACC fail in such a way that it's always energized? Even with the main key switch "Off"? My '79 cranked a little slow the morning after I bought it. Got it home, parked it a couple of days and the battery was dead flat. Problem turned out to be a stuck ACC servo that perpetually tried to park itself. (imagine a wiper motor that's stalled and can't get the blades down to shut itself off) The car was drawing 0.4A until I pulled that inline fuse. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] source for floor mat/liners
I can get the actual carpet, under that is no longer available. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Allan Streib Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:47:07 To: Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] source for floor mat/liners So when I pulled the water-saturated floor mats out of the 300SD, the bottom layer (seems to be tar paper over a thin sheet of foam) completely fell apart. Is this material available? I'm thinking of replacing it with DynaMat or DynaPlate but that's rather expensive. Or maybe some bulk silicone foam padding. Also I may need a new set of floor mats (the top level protective mats and the "middle" level foam-padded mats) or even an entire carpet set, depending on how well mine clean up. At minimum, I'm missing the padded mat from the right rear. Anyone got any in good condition? The color is sort of a golden. Seat leather is brown/tan (not dark brown). Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interresting Tidbit
Indeed - thanks, Hans! On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > Very interesting! Always nice to know the history. > > Walt > On Mar 1, 2011 7:01 AM, "Hans Neureiter" wrote: > > The origin of the star > > > > DMG now had a successful brand name, but still lacked a characteristic > > trademark. Then Paul and Adolf Daimler – the company founder’s two sons, > and > > now senior executives at DMG – remembered that their father, who had died > in > > March 1900 shortly before his 66th birthday, had once used a star as a > > symbol. > > > > Gottlieb Daimler had been technical director of the Deutz gas engine > factory > > from 1872 until 1881. At the beginning of his employment there, he had > > marked a star above his own house on a picture postcard of Cologne and > > Deutz, and had written to his wife that this star would one day shine > over > > his own factory to symbolize prosperity. > > > > The DMG board immediately accepted the proposal and in June 1909, both a > > three-pointed and a four-pointed star were registered as trademarks. > > Although both designs were legally protected, only the three-pointed star > > was used. From 1910 onward, a three-dimensional star adorned the radiator > at > > the front of the car. > > > > The three-pointed star was supposed to symbolize Daimler’s ambition of > > universal motorization – “on land, on water and in the air”. Over the > years, > > various small additions were made. In 1916, the tips were surrounded by a > > circle, in which four small stars and the word Mercedes were integrated, > or > > alternatively the names of the DMG plants at Untertürkheim or > > Berlin-Marienfelde. > > > > In November 1921, DMG applied for legal protection of utility patents for > > new variations on their trademark and lodged with the patent office a > > three-dimensional three-pointed star enclosed in a circle – which > included > > the design intended for use on the radiator grille. It became a > registered > > trademark in August 1923. > > > > > > -- > > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ACC circulation pump running continuously, W116
I put the battery charger on my new-to-me W116 today, it was flat dead and I wanted to see if it would take a charge. I came out later to see how it was looking and I heard a noise up near the firewall. It seemed to be the circulation pump, or something else in the ACC control unit (this is the dreaded Chrysler "servo" right? A black box by the firewall on the left side of the car, with a bunch of wires an vacuum tubes running into the top). The key was in the off position, and removed. ACC button array was "Off". I started pulling fuses one by one and nothing made it stop until I got to an in-line fuse (one of two in the fusebox) which was on a red/yellow wire. So I've got that fuse removed for now. Can the Chrysler ACC fail in such a way that it's always energized? Even with the main key switch "Off"? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] source for floor mat/liners
So when I pulled the water-saturated floor mats out of the 300SD, the bottom layer (seems to be tar paper over a thin sheet of foam) completely fell apart. Is this material available? I'm thinking of replacing it with DynaMat or DynaPlate but that's rather expensive. Or maybe some bulk silicone foam padding. Also I may need a new set of floor mats (the top level protective mats and the "middle" level foam-padded mats) or even an entire carpet set, depending on how well mine clean up. At minimum, I'm missing the padded mat from the right rear. Anyone got any in good condition? The color is sort of a golden. Seat leather is brown/tan (not dark brown). Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '78 240D clutch rod
> > Curt Raymond wrote: > > > > So my clutch rod plea just took a new turn. Rusty reports > > 123 290 07 39 which is the '78 clutch rod is $215 > Mitch Haley wrote: > > The one you have is identical but longer? > With a big ball on the cylinder end? > What's on the pedal end? I just did a clutch master cylinder swap... I'm not remembering clearly which way mine ended up wrong. The pedal end of the rods are identical - or at least interchangeable. I just checked the removed one. It has a plain round end - no ball. It does not attach to the piston - the rod just rests in a depression. It came out of a late '80. The replacement was from a late '81. Initially I left the rod on the pedal arm - but the circuit would not bleed 'cause the long rod prevented the piston from reaching the top if it's travel. This replacement has a ball that "snaps" into the top of the piston. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New toy for Jaime
Thanks Mitch... with a bit of luck, I'll have a place to install such a thing sometime this year. I could really use it. I've put in more than my share laying on the ground in 2010! (And I can just think of the projects... 5 speed for the 300D, front end in the E320 and 300SD... hm..) Jaime On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > http://cnj.craigslist.org/tls/2229233845.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] and I thought this was gonna' be easy
Got a shipment yesterday of misc. stuff and decided to replace the intake seal rings on both my '84 300D & '85 300TD. As it turned out, this required most of the afternoon as even though I used a hair dryer to heat it up the seal ring for the intake to the air cleaner was a real BEAR. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '78 240D clutch rod
Curt Raymond wrote: So my clutch rod plea just took a new turn. Rusty reports 123 290 07 39 which is the '78 clutch rod is $215 The one you have is identical but longer? With a big ball on the cylinder end? What's on the pedal end? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Skydiver transfer
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1265891/Hold-think-youre-g oing-Skydiver-grabs-gliders-tail-fin-fly-2-100-metres-100mph.html RLE ot ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a W116 300SD
This sounds similar to the setup for the W126. The back glass is a laminate with the defroster wires sandwiched in between. It can be very easy to break unless it is handled by a professional installer. That being said, the professional installer that did my W126 rear window had it about 99% installed when a small corner of the glass cracked. He freaked, I bummed. My insurance company covered the MB factory replacement that came in from the depot the next day. A couple of days later, my agent calls me . "Do you plan on doing business with that glass company in the future?" "I dunno, why?" "We are going to subrogate the claim, and they might not be too happy with you as a result." "Go for it." Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:21 AM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > I noticed that the car has a switch with the standard rear defroster icon, > but the rear windshield is clear: no horizontal defroster wires as on my W123. > > Then I looked closely and it looks like there are vertical wires, thin as > hairs. Is this how the defroster is set up on the W116? Anything to be > careful of if I change the window gasket? > > Allan > > > On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 06:01 -0800, "Curt Raymond" wrote: >> I love 116s. >> >> I'd guess you've got 2 new windshield gaskets in your future. Both pools >> of water could be explained by failed gaskets. >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:13:47 -0500 >> From: "Allan Streib" >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Subject: [MBZ] I buy a W116 300SD >> Message-ID: <1298952827.30980.1424847...@webmail.messagingengine.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I sent this earlier but it never came through. I'm guessing because of >> the attached pic. So here is a link instead. >> >> http://img.skitch.com/20110301-ce2xaifi25qjprx3pp1ggdmqxi.jpg >> >> This is the one that had the problem with the harmonic balancer. >> >> Next >> problem already identified: driver's floor soaking wet. I pulled all >> the mats and padding out and there's some rust on the floor pan but no >> perforation. So I'll hit that with rust converter and some POR-15. >> Would this likely be a clogged drain on the air intake? >> >> Some >> water in the trunk also, but there was a bunch of leaves and dirt all >> around the seal so I think this was causing water to back up and >> overflow into the trunk. I cleaned that all out; the seal itself seems >> OK. The rear window seal is not in such good shape, however... quite a >> number of cracks along the bottom. >> >> Fun to have a new project... hoping its something I can get on the road >> fairly quickly. >> >> Allan >> -- >> 1983 300D >> and now also 1979 300SD >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '78 240D clutch rod
So my clutch rod plea just took a new turn. Rusty reports 123 290 07 39 which is the '78 clutch rod is $215 (thats the Rusty price, $300 is their price!). So I'm definitely needing either a used replacement or I need to make mine work... Strange that the newer car item is 1/20th the price. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New toy for Jaime
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Every time I see a lift for sale for a price within the reach of amateur wrenches I wonder the same thing: The imports are pretty affordable. http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp9a-d.htm http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/2-Post-Lifts-p/tp09a-d.htm My goal is to get a Rotary, Snap-On, Bend-Pak, etc in nice condition for $800-1000. An indy about 40 miles from me upgraded a 7k clear floor Rotary to a 12k and put the 7k on Craigslist for $1000 firm last fall. Too bad I didn't have a place with a 13' ceiling to set it up, as that was exactly what I wanted. I used to think a single post in ground lift would be great, but they're a huge pain to install, and you can't do driveshaft or exhaust work with the lift in the middle of the car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New toy for Jaime
Allan Streib wrote: A lift normally has (I would think) a ratchet mechanism of some sort, or pins that you lock in once the vehicle is raised. They don't rely on hydraulic pressure alone to support the car. Right. The ratchets clank every two inches or so. I like to lower the car down onto the ratchets, like lowering a jack until the car hits the jack stands. You have to hold the ratchet release while you lower the car when you're done. I always lift the hoist until the suspension starts to rise, then double check to make sure the lift pads are where they belong. I've had to reposition once or twice. Most guys just hit the lift button until the car is at the height they want. I once worked with a guy who had dropped a sheriff's cruiser on its side. (it fell before anybody got under it) Even after that, he could put a car in the air much faster than I did. But the time wasted getting that flipped Caprice from between the lift posts must have made up for a lifetime of saving a few seconds. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tranny filter and gasket---same for gas/diesel early 124s?
You should only use MANN filters in a 124. Rusty has them. Quick question for you guys. I'd like to do a transmission filter and pan-gasket change on my '87 300D. I I have the Miele (I think) kit that includes both the filter and gasket on one big shrinkwrapped card, which I bought for my '86 300E at some point and never used. Is this the same part? I know they're both 722.something transmissions. Thanks, Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New toy for Jaime
A lift normally has (I would think) a ratchet mechanism of some sort, or pins that you lock in once the vehicle is raised. They don't rely on hydraulic pressure alone to support the car. Allan On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:41 -0800, "Alex Chamberlain" wrote: > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > http://cnj.craigslist.org/tls/2229233845.html > > > > Every time I see a lift for sale for a price within the reach of > amateur wrenches I wonder the same thing: why is it not OK to get > under a car supported only by a hydraulic jack, but it's OK to get > under a car supported only by a hydraulic lift? Isn't the latter just > as likely to kill you if the hydraulic system has a sudden > catastrophic failure and loses pressure? (Leaving aside the fact that > a car supported only by a jack can be kind of tippy, since the same > thing applies to a single jackstand if it's placed poorly.) > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New toy for Jaime
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > http://cnj.craigslist.org/tls/2229233845.html > Every time I see a lift for sale for a price within the reach of amateur wrenches I wonder the same thing: why is it not OK to get under a car supported only by a hydraulic jack, but it's OK to get under a car supported only by a hydraulic lift? Isn't the latter just as likely to kill you if the hydraulic system has a sudden catastrophic failure and loses pressure? (Leaving aside the fact that a car supported only by a jack can be kind of tippy, since the same thing applies to a single jackstand if it's placed poorly.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off
Yes indeed, a great book. When I sold my '63 Beetle, my copy of that book went with it; book was well worn, car ran pretty good. -Max From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:59:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive" had a description and great drawing of the technique. In fact there are loads of great drawings in that book which is a great read even if you don't have an aircooled VW. No you can't borrow my copy. -Curt Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:27:49 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Congrats! The tip about being unable to overtorque a 6mm with your thumb over the end came from a German at a Deutz Engine Service school. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New toy for Jaime
http://cnj.craigslist.org/tls/2229233845.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts
A little bit more involved then that. There is the ground prep to get it all straight and level, not too bad, then there is the framing to keep the concrete in one place, again not too bad, Finally there is the screeing to level the concrete while the stuff comes out of the truck. That's the killer. At 61 that's just too much like work for me. When I get to it I'll have a couple of people I know do it for me, but that's still a bit down the road. Manfred Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:14:04 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts 5 yards of concrete ~$500. 20'x20'x4". Or half that much 'crete and pay a small load delivery charge. Tie two ropes to an old garage broom and have somebody help you pull it back and forth to put a brushed finish on the 'crete. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts
Now why would you want to let something leak? Just think of all the fun you might have once you get into it. Why there must be 10 or more things that could be gotten done while you are down there. Manfred Don't know if I'm sadistic or masochistic. Maybe only bipolar or just schizoid. I do have 3 old Mercedes after all. Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:32:52 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts I am having second thoughts. Today I was planning to replace the leaky pitman shaft seal. I wonder if I should just let it leak. Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tranny filter and gasket---same for gas/diesel early 124s?
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: > yes. > Thanks, Rusty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tranny filter and gasket---same for gas/diesel early 124s?
yes. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] Tranny filter and gasket---same for gas/diesel early 124s? Quick question for you guys. I'd like to do a transmission filter and pan-gasket change on my '87 300D. I I have the Miele (I think) kit that includes both the filter and gasket on one big shrinkwrapped card, which I bought for my '86 300E at some point and never used. Is this the same part? I know they're both 722.something transmissions. Thanks, Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tranny filter and gasket---same for gas/diesel early 124s?
Quick question for you guys. I'd like to do a transmission filter and pan-gasket change on my '87 300D. I I have the Miele (I think) kit that includes both the filter and gasket on one big shrinkwrapped card, which I bought for my '86 300E at some point and never used. Is this the same part? I know they're both 722.something transmissions. Thanks, Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a W116 300SD
I noticed that the car has a switch with the standard rear defroster icon, but the rear windshield is clear: no horizontal defroster wires as on my W123. Then I looked closely and it looks like there are vertical wires, thin as hairs. Is this how the defroster is set up on the W116? Anything to be careful of if I change the window gasket? Allan On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 06:01 -0800, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > I love 116s. > > I'd guess you've got 2 new windshield gaskets in your future. Both pools > of water could be explained by failed gaskets. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:13:47 -0500 > From: "Allan Streib" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: [MBZ] I buy a W116 300SD > Message-ID: <1298952827.30980.1424847...@webmail.messagingengine.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I sent this earlier but it never came through. I'm guessing because of > the attached pic. So here is a link instead. > > http://img.skitch.com/20110301-ce2xaifi25qjprx3pp1ggdmqxi.jpg > > This is the one that had the problem with the harmonic balancer. > > Next > problem already identified: driver's floor soaking wet. I pulled all > the mats and padding out and there's some rust on the floor pan but no > perforation. So I'll hit that with rust converter and some POR-15. > Would this likely be a clogged drain on the air intake? > > Some > water in the trunk also, but there was a bunch of leaves and dirt all > around the seal so I think this was causing water to back up and > overflow into the trunk. I cleaned that all out; the seal itself seems > OK. The rear window seal is not in such good shape, however... quite a > number of cracks along the bottom. > > Fun to have a new project... hoping its something I can get on the road > fairly quickly. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > and now also 1979 300SD > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: the joy of new RAM
Somewhat apropos to the recent discussion of 32-bit vs 64-bit address spaces and what happens when you add more than 4 Gb to a Windows machine: I recently read on one of the Apple-gossip sites that the Intel Mac Minis can make use of 8 Gb under Snow Leopard (whereas previous versions of OS X were limited to 4 Gb). I have an Intel Mini as my main machine---it's a year or two old, the original Mini form factor rather than the new thinner one. And I'd been putting off buying the Snow Leopard upgrade, but this, I thought, would make it worth it. So I ordered the DVD and two 4 Gb memory cards, and just last night finished the process of backing up the machine, unplugging it, taking it down to my workshop, disassembling it to put in the new RAM (I can take a Mini apart in my sleep now; I've had to do it twice to upgrade the RAM and hard drive on this one already), and then putting everything back together. Wowsers! What a difference! The computer feels twice as fast now. I don't know how much that's due to the OS upgrade and how much to doubling the RAM, but I think the latter surely must play a big part. I think the machine was thrashing around in the swapfile a lot beforehand and I just didn't notice because the hard drive is so quiet. Regardless, I am extremely pleased. One funny thing about the Snow Leopard install is that you have to click the "Customize..." button in the installer window if you want to install the Rosetta layer. The default is not to install it. I thought that was weird. I know what Rosetta is and that I regularly use software that requires it to run. (Office 2004, for example, came out in the pre- Intel Mac era, and I'm used to it and don't want to upgrade to whatever the current version is. Same with the version of Photoshop Elements I use.) But how many people will fail to check that box and then wonder why some of their software doesn't work anymore? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts
MG wrote: That may be because I've probably played with cars a bit more then you have. It's all just practice. Though I wish I had a lift or even a concrete pad to work on. Digging bolts out of the dirt has gotten real old by now. Well maybe when the dome is done. 5 yards of concrete ~$500. 20'x20'x4". Or half that much 'crete and pay a small load delivery charge. Tie two ropes to an old garage broom and have somebody help you pull it back and forth to put a brushed finish on the 'crete. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a W116 300SD
I love 116s. I'd guess you've got 2 new windshield gaskets in your future. Both pools of water could be explained by failed gaskets. -Curt Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:13:47 -0500 From: "Allan Streib" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: [MBZ] I buy a W116 300SD Message-ID: <1298952827.30980.1424847...@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I sent this earlier but it never came through. I'm guessing because of the attached pic. So here is a link instead. http://img.skitch.com/20110301-ce2xaifi25qjprx3pp1ggdmqxi.jpg This is the one that had the problem with the harmonic balancer. Next problem already identified: driver's floor soaking wet. I pulled all the mats and padding out and there's some rust on the floor pan but no perforation. So I'll hit that with rust converter and some POR-15. Would this likely be a clogged drain on the air intake? Some water in the trunk also, but there was a bunch of leaves and dirt all around the seal so I think this was causing water to back up and overflow into the trunk. I cleaned that all out; the seal itself seems OK. The rear window seal is not in such good shape, however... quite a number of cracks along the bottom. Fun to have a new project... hoping its something I can get on the road fairly quickly. Allan -- 1983 300D and now also 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off
"How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive" had a description and great drawing of the technique. In fact there are loads of great drawings in that book which is a great read even if you don't have an aircooled VW. No you can't borrow my copy. -Curt Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:27:49 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Congrats! The tip about being unable to overtorque a 6mm with your thumb over the end came from a German at a Deutz Engine Service school. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts
A good floor jack helps a lot. You can do one side at a time. (If your Diff mount is ok and you don't plan to replace it.) Put the rear up on jackstands. Then put the jack under the differential to support it as you pull the bolts on one side. Lower the diff, then remove the old subframe mounts. I used Dawn as lube. I used the weight of the car to help seat the new ones. Jack up the diff until the weight is just off the jack stands. Put the bolts in and draw the bolts up. That's at least better than replacing the rear links and finding that the subframe mounts are pretty much totally wasted. Guess what I'm doing next weekend? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts
I'm guessing it won't be going down to the local watering hole and hoist a few. Have fun. Ha! As if. Manfred Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:07 -0600 From: Peter Frederick To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts That's at least better than replacing the rear links and finding that the subframe mounts are pretty much totally wasted. Guess what I'm doing next weekend? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts
That may be because I've probably played with cars a bit more then you have. It's all just practice. Though I wish I had a lift or even a concrete pad to work on. Digging bolts out of the dirt has gotten real old by now. Well maybe when the dome is done. Manfred Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:23:05 -0600 From: OK Don To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts Sounds like a lot of my Saturdays as well - except it would have taken me 10 hours -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tach 1983 300DT
Seems that sometimes they are sometimes they aren't. It may depend on the company making the bearing. I bought some for an old XJ6 a few years back, Timkin I think, and they were separate. Also remember buying some for the Jeep one time which were separate though this last time just a week ago they were in a set. It may be because some people will use the bearing races that come in the new brake disks, for machining during production, rather then take them out and put in the ones that come with the new bearings. I think with new manufacturing methods and tolerances the matching is no longer any problem. Manfred Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:18:33 -0700 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tach 1983 300DT On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:27:28 -0500 MG wrote: > Make sure you get new outer races if the bearings don't come with them > (some do some don't) ... I thought the outer races were matched to the bearings and thus came as a set. Is this not always the case? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts
I am having second thoughts. Today I was planning to replace the leaky pitman shaft seal. I wonder if I should just let it leak. Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:33 PM, MG wrote: > Well a couple of days ago I had a great day. I decided to replace the > alternator belts an my 83 300D. What! You say it doesn't take all day to > replace two alternator belts? Yeah you may be right, but > > It all started out innocently enough. Got the power steering belt off. Got > the AC belt off. Then couldn't quite get to the bolts on the alternator > easily enough so I took off the air cleaner and the turbo intake elbow. > > So far so good, right? Not. > > Found that the rear mount arm on the aircleaner bracket was broken off. Oh > yeah I remember, that was one of those things I put off a while ago. I > remember ordering a new bracket and mounts so I went and dug them out of the > parts boxes. (notice the plural, boxes, as opposed to just the singular, > box. Why? wait for it) > > Took the bracket off, had to loosen the turbo oil supply. Then I remembered > that I had been wanting to replace the intake/exhaust manifold gasket due to > a leak at the rear cylinders. Well no time like the present since I was > already here. > > Back to the garage to get the exhaust gasket out of the boxes. (you might > begin to see why, boxes,). Got the gasket, back to work getting the exhaust > pipe off and the turbo and the intake/exhaust manifold. Great! just about > ready to get things back together. > > OH wait. there is that little leak at the base of the turbo oil drain to > the block. Well I kind of knew about that for a while too. After all 500 > miles to quart and a lot of oil drips and the block was nice and clean right > where the drain enters the block. Kind of gives it way. > > Back to the boxes. Got the new seals for that little job. Did I say little? > There has got to be an easier way to get that tube out of the block. Next > time I will order a new tube. This one looks like it was used as a chew toy > for a grizzly by the time I got it out. Still it is pretty straight and not > too scared so put the rubbers on it and put it back in. I realize now that > the repair manual is quite optimistic. Pull the tube out, put the o-rings on > the tube, put the big rubber in the hole in the block and then insert the > tube. Ri...ght. Doesn't work that way. More like fight the tube out and then > put the o-rings on the tube. Then try and get the big rubber part started on > the bottom of the tube and over the o-ring there but just barely. (You learn > that after trying it their way for 20 minutes or so) Then get the big rubber > started in the hole in the block and tap it down tight around the edge with > a small wood stick. Then get a big socket and extension and beat the living > H..l out of the tube to get it down into place, but not too far or you may > have to pull it back out. I was lucky there, had to beat on it twice more to > get it down far enough to get the turbo back on. It was sticking out a bit > high still until after the second time. > > Oh did I tell you that I had a turbo from another car which had a shaft > that didn't wiggle as much as the turbo I took off so I decided to put that > one on instead. (Remember that) So got the manifolds back on with the turbo > and the exhaust pipe. > > Didn't have a new gasket for the turbo to the exhaust manifold so I had to > use the old one. Then before I forget it, back to the original job. Loosen > the bolts and get the belts off and the new ones on to the alternator. That > done, put the new aircleaner bracket and mounts on and fasten everything > back together. Get all the other belts back on and finally start the car. > Yay!!! > > Hold on not so fast, 5 yard penalty for excessive celebration. Let the > engine run a bit at idle to fill the turbo oil supply tube and then rev it a > couple of times. OY! The nice tight turbo makes a bad whining noise and > doesn't put out very much boost. Also a lot of exhaust smoke coming out > under the air cleaner. OH well. Looks like I need to order a turbo or at > least a rebuild kit as well as a new exhaust to turbo gasket. Then do a lot > of this fun stuff all over again. Bummer. > > So Rusty if you have been following my joy filled day this far how much for > a rebuilt turbo center chunk or a rebuild kit with upgraded thrust bearing > plate and a gasket and lock plates for the wastegate cover. Figure I might > as well take that off and clean it and possibly set the boost a bit higher, > seeing as how I have to go back in anyway. This is for a Garrett turbo. Oh > an exhaust manifold to turbo gasket also. > > So bottom line, 5 hours and I'm still not really done, but the car is at > least drivable. Maybe. > > Manfred > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Uns
Re: [MBZ] Clutch rod
Yeah. Sorry about that. I was reading through the digest and stopped to send without finishing all the others that were piled up behind it. Manfred Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:59:25 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch rod You haven't been following along with the other posts, but based on your post I understand why! ;) A. Theres a ball on the end so you can't just cut it off. I could section it I suppose, weld the ball back on. B. Its an annoying fiddly job to get it in and out. C. Assuming Rusty can get the correct part its ~$10. Not much of my time has to be spent to equal $10. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interresting Tidbit
Very interesting! Always nice to know the history. Walt On Mar 1, 2011 7:01 AM, "Hans Neureiter" wrote: > The origin of the star > > DMG now had a successful brand name, but still lacked a characteristic > trademark. Then Paul and Adolf Daimler – the company founder’s two sons, and > now senior executives at DMG – remembered that their father, who had died in > March 1900 shortly before his 66th birthday, had once used a star as a > symbol. > > Gottlieb Daimler had been technical director of the Deutz gas engine factory > from 1872 until 1881. At the beginning of his employment there, he had > marked a star above his own house on a picture postcard of Cologne and > Deutz, and had written to his wife that this star would one day shine over > his own factory to symbolize prosperity. > > The DMG board immediately accepted the proposal and in June 1909, both a > three-pointed and a four-pointed star were registered as trademarks. > Although both designs were legally protected, only the three-pointed star > was used. From 1910 onward, a three-dimensional star adorned the radiator at > the front of the car. > > The three-pointed star was supposed to symbolize Daimler’s ambition of > universal motorization – “on land, on water and in the air”. Over the years, > various small additions were made. In 1916, the tips were surrounded by a > circle, in which four small stars and the word Mercedes were integrated, or > alternatively the names of the DMG plants at Untertürkheim or > Berlin-Marienfelde. > > In November 1921, DMG applied for legal protection of utility patents for > new variations on their trademark and lodged with the patent office a > three-dimensional three-pointed star enclosed in a circle – which included > the design intended for use on the radiator grille. It became a registered > trademark in August 1923. > > > -- > Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX > '82 300SD > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interresting Tidbit
The origin of the star DMG now had a successful brand name, but still lacked a characteristic trademark. Then Paul and Adolf Daimler – the company founder’s two sons, and now senior executives at DMG – remembered that their father, who had died in March 1900 shortly before his 66th birthday, had once used a star as a symbol. Gottlieb Daimler had been technical director of the Deutz gas engine factory from 1872 until 1881. At the beginning of his employment there, he had marked a star above his own house on a picture postcard of Cologne and Deutz, and had written to his wife that this star would one day shine over his own factory to symbolize prosperity. The DMG board immediately accepted the proposal and in June 1909, both a three-pointed and a four-pointed star were registered as trademarks. Although both designs were legally protected, only the three-pointed star was used. From 1910 onward, a three-dimensional star adorned the radiator at the front of the car. The three-pointed star was supposed to symbolize Daimler’s ambition of universal motorization – “on land, on water and in the air”. Over the years, various small additions were made. In 1916, the tips were surrounded by a circle, in which four small stars and the word Mercedes were integrated, or alternatively the names of the DMG plants at Untertürkheim or Berlin-Marienfelde. In November 1921, DMG applied for legal protection of utility patents for new variations on their trademark and lodged with the patent office a three-dimensional three-pointed star enclosed in a circle – which included the design intended for use on the radiator grille. It became a registered trademark in August 1923. -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Watch your tranny getting done
That looks like enormous fun! Now, how to get myself and the transmission to Fellbach? -Max From: Hendrik & Fay To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 5:23:53 AM Subject: [MBZ] Watch your tranny getting done http://www.mercedes-benz-classic.com/content/classic/mpc/mpc_classic_website/en/mpc_home/mbc/home/spare_parts/aggregate_reconditioning/quality_standard.html Hendrik who doesn't need an overhaul...yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a W116 300SD
A fine looking car - Congrats! Looking forward to reading about your harmonic balancer repair. -Max From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 11:13:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] I buy a W116 300SD I sent this earlier but it never came through. I'm guessing because of the attached pic. So here is a link instead. http://img.skitch.com/20110301-ce2xaifi25qjprx3pp1ggdmqxi.jpg This is the one that had the problem with the harmonic balancer. Next problem already identified: driver's floor soaking wet. I pulled all the mats and padding out and there's some rust on the floor pan but no perforation. So I'll hit that with rust converter and some POR-15. Would this likely be a clogged drain on the air intake? Some water in the trunk also, but there was a bunch of leaves and dirt all around the seal so I think this was causing water to back up and overflow into the trunk. I cleaned that all out; the seal itself seems OK. The rear window seal is not in such good shape, however... quite a number of cracks along the bottom. Fun to have a new project... hoping its something I can get on the road fairly quickly. Allan -- 1983 300D and now also 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts
That was my take as well - I'd have been in the garage until midnight! -Max From: OK Don To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 10:23:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] fun time replacing alternator belts Sounds like a lot of my Saturdays as well - except it would have taken me 10 hours -- On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:33 PM, MG wrote: > Well a couple of days ago I had a great day. I decided to replace the > alternator belts an my 83 300D. What! You say it doesn't take all day to > replace two alternator belts? Yeah you may be right, but > > It all started out innocently enough. Got the power steering belt off. Got > the AC belt off. Then couldn't quite get to the bolts on the alternator > easily enough so I took off the air cleaner and the turbo intake elbow. > > So far so good, right? Not. > > Found that the rear mount arm on the aircleaner bracket was broken off. Oh > yeah I remember, that was one of those things I put off a while ago. I > remember ordering a new bracket and mounts so I went and dug them out of the > parts boxes. (notice the plural, boxes, as opposed to just the singular, > box. Why? wait for it) > > Took the bracket off, had to loosen the turbo oil supply. Then I remembered > that I had been wanting to replace the intake/exhaust manifold gasket due to > a leak at the rear cylinders. Well no time like the present since I was > already here. > > Back to the garage to get the exhaust gasket out of the boxes. (you might > begin to see why, boxes,). Got the gasket, back to work getting the exhaust > pipe off and the turbo and the intake/exhaust manifold. Great! just about > ready to get things back together. > > OH wait. there is that little leak at the base of the turbo oil drain to > the block. Well I kind of knew about that for a while too. After all 500 > miles to quart and a lot of oil drips and the block was nice and clean right > where the drain enters the block. Kind of gives it way. > > Back to the boxes. Got the new seals for that little job. Did I say little? > There has got to be an easier way to get that tube out of the block. Next > time I will order a new tube. This one looks like it was used as a chew toy > for a grizzly by the time I got it out. Still it is pretty straight and not > too scared so put the rubbers on it and put it back in. I realize now that > the repair manual is quite optimistic. Pull the tube out, put the o-rings on > the tube, put the big rubber in the hole in the block and then insert the > tube. Ri...ght. Doesn't work that way. More like fight the tube out and then > put the o-rings on the tube. Then try and get the big rubber part started on > the bottom of the tube and over the o-ring there but just barely. (You learn > that after trying it their way for 20 minutes or so) Then get the big rubber > started in the hole in the block and tap it down tight around the edge with > a small wood stick. Then get a big socket and extension and beat the living > H..l out of the tube to get it down into place, but not too far or you may > have to pull it back out. I was lucky there, had to beat on it twice more to > get it down far enough to get the turbo back on. It was sticking out a bit > high still until after the second time. > > Oh did I tell you that I had a turbo from another car which had a shaft > that didn't wiggle as much as the turbo I took off so I decided to put that > one on instead. (Remember that) So got the manifolds back on with the turbo > and the exhaust pipe. > > Didn't have a new gasket for the turbo to the exhaust manifold so I had to > use the old one. Then before I forget it, back to the original job. Loosen > the bolts and get the belts off and the new ones on to the alternator. That > done, put the new aircleaner bracket and mounts on and fasten everything > back together. Get all the other belts back on and finally start the car. > Yay!!! > > Hold on not so fast, 5 yard penalty for excessive celebration. Let the > engine run a bit at idle to fill the turbo oil supply tube and then rev it a > couple of times. OY! The nice tight turbo makes a bad whining noise and > doesn't put out very much boost. Also a lot of exhaust smoke coming out > under the air cleaner. OH well. Looks like I need to order a turbo or at > least a rebuild kit as well as a new exhaust to turbo gasket. Then do a lot > of this fun stuff all over again. Bummer. > > So Rusty if you have been following my joy filled day this far how much for > a rebuilt turbo center chunk or a rebuild kit with upgraded thrust bearing > plate and a gasket and lock plates for the wastegate cover. Figure I might > as well take that off and clean it and possibly set the boost a bit higher, > seeing as how I have to go back in anyway. This is for a Garrett turbo. Oh > an exhaust manifold to turbo gasket also. > > So bottom line, 5 hours and I'm still not really done, but the car is at > least drivable. Maybe. > > Manfred > > > -- > OK
