Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D - Ignition switch issue / starter keeps turning after car starts! Help!

2011-05-05 Thread Russ Williams

Craig that's a headlight switch
The Ignition switch is under the Steering Category.
But for some reason tonight it's showing No In Stock
Last night it was. H'm

On 5/4/2011 11:15 PM, Craig wrote:

On Tue, 03 May 2011 23:31:02 -0500 Russ Williamsrawil...@eatel.net
wrote:


Switch is on Rusty's site
http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=yearid=1983%40%401983makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES%40%40Xmodelid=6191%3AED|1135%3AMBC|1504%40%40300Dkeyword=switchsubcatid=P:241656@@Ignition%20Switchmode=PA
and only 29.88

This link brings up a small window that says, Sorry - The part you are
currently looking for is not stocked. Please select a different category.
Or click here for a special order!



If the link doesn't come thru select you year and model and search for
SWITCH it's in the list.

This procedure brings up part number W0133-1608622 (that's WorldPac's
number) at

http://www.buymbparts.biz/item.wws?sku=W0133-1608622itempk=10233mfr=OES
Genuineweight=0.45

and its cost is $130.91.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] the OK Don 300D

2011-05-05 Thread Dieselhead
93 days  But it is difficult to predict, because we don't know who 
got it, and what their level of experience/pain is.


As sad day indeed, the OK Don 300D got sold again and left my 
driveway just a little while ago.  Any bets on how long it takes to 
come back this time?


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 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2,
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D - Ignition switch issue / starter keeps turning after car starts! Help!

2011-05-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
You could do a lot worse than calling Rusty.  He is an amazingly helpful
resource.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Wed, 4 May 2011 22:15:23 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

  On Tue, 03 May 2011 23:31:02 -0500 Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net
  wrote:
 
   Switch is on Rusty's site
  
 http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=yearid=1983%40%401983makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES%40%40Xmodelid=6191%3AED|1135%3AMBC|1504%40%40300Dkeyword=switchsubcatid=P:241656@@Ignition%20Switchmode=PA
   and only 29.88
 
  This link brings up a small window that says, Sorry - The part you are
  currently looking for is not stocked. Please select a different
  category. Or click here for a special order!

 I looked over the pictures I took of the process and finally figured out
 what I did back in 2007:

I replaced the ignition lock housing, which includes the
ignition switch and the mechanism to turn the ignition switch.

 The housing is shown at

 http://www.buymbparts.biz/item.wws?sku=W0133-1605516itempk=14591mfr=Valeoweight=1.65
 and has the note, Does not contain lock cylinder (tumbler) : does
 include ignition switch 202 545 01 04.

 It costs $195.13.

 The procedure is to take the housing and ignition switch out, take the
 switch off the housing, and see what's broken. In my case, the tangs that
 turn the switch were broken off the mechanism in the housing, so I had to
 buy the housing.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 1983 300D - Ignition switch issue / starter keeps turning after car starts! Help!

2011-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey

the tangs that turn the switch were broken off the mechanism
in the housing, so I had to buy the housing.


My guess is that somebody didn't like the only-start-once
mechanism that's in the switch, and tried to force it to
the start position again.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D

2011-05-05 Thread Allan Streib
Driving into town today, everything seemed normal.  Then went through a stretch 
of road work, stop and go for 15 minutes or so.  Then at the next stoplight, 
when I started off the car would not shift out of 1st gear (or do these start 
in 2nd?).  Anyway, no shifting in forward gears.  Reverse works OK.

Pulled over and checked fluid, level is good and it looks clean and no foam.  
Going to let it cool down and see if it's any different later.

Ideas?

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D

2011-05-05 Thread Rick Knoble
Passing gear switch under the throttle pedal is stuck down. Pull it up with 
pliers, order a new one from Rusty, and don't floor it anymore, until it is 
replaced. :)
rick

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On May 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Driving into town today, everything seemed normal.  Then went through a 
 stretch of road work, stop and go for 15 minutes or so.  Then at the next 
 stoplight, when I started off the car would not shift out of 1st gear (or do 
 these start in 2nd?).  Anyway, no shifting in forward gears.  Reverse works 
 OK.
 
 Pulled over and checked fluid, level is good and it looks clean and no foam.  
 Going to let it cool down and see if it's any different later.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1979 300SD
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D

2011-05-05 Thread Allan Streib
Thanks I'll check that.  I don't recall flooring the accelerator to the point 
of hitting the kickdown switch, but I do tend to use a pretty heavy foot 
starting off from a stop (drive like you stole it, RIP Marshall).

Allan


On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:48 -0500, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Passing gear switch under the throttle pedal is stuck down. Pull it up with 
 pliers, order a new one from Rusty, and don't floor it anymore, until it is 
 replaced. :)
 rick
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
  Driving into town today, everything seemed normal.  Then went through a 
  stretch of road work, stop and go for 15 minutes or so.  Then at the next 
  stoplight, when I started off the car would not shift out of 1st gear (or 
  do these start in 2nd?).  Anyway, no shifting in forward gears.  Reverse 
  works OK.
  
  Pulled over and checked fluid, level is good and it looks clean and no 
  foam.  Going to let it cool down and see if it's any different later.
  
  Ideas?
  
  Allan
  --
  1983 300D
  1979 300SD
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D

2011-05-05 Thread Rick Knoble
It may be shorted internally, from water perhaps. You may have to unplug it. 

Rick

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On May 5, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Thanks I'll check that.  I don't recall flooring the accelerator to the point 
 of hitting the kickdown switch, but I do tend to use a pretty heavy foot 
 starting off from a stop (drive like you stole it, RIP Marshall).
 
 Allan
 
 
 On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:48 -0500, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Passing gear switch under the throttle pedal is stuck down. Pull it up with 
 pliers, order a new one from Rusty, and don't floor it anymore, until it is 
 replaced. :)
 rick
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
 Driving into town today, everything seemed normal.  Then went through a 
 stretch of road work, stop and go for 15 minutes or so.  Then at the next 
 stoplight, when I started off the car would not shift out of 1st gear (or 
 do these start in 2nd?).  Anyway, no shifting in forward gears.  Reverse 
 works OK.
 
 Pulled over and checked fluid, level is good and it looks clean and no 
 foam.  Going to let it cool down and see if it's any different later.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1979 300SD
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D

2011-05-05 Thread hue wong
The knowledge displayed by the folks of this board just amazes meI wish 
everything had this kind of knowledge base1




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--- On Thu, 5/5/11, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 10:20 AM
 It may be shorted internally, from
 water perhaps. You may have to unplug it. 
 
 Rick
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 5, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:
 
  Thanks I'll check that.  I don't recall flooring
 the accelerator to the point of hitting the kickdown switch,
 but I do tend to use a pretty heavy foot starting off from a
 stop (drive like you stole it, RIP Marshall).
  
  Allan
  
  
  On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:48 -0500, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  Passing gear switch under the throttle pedal is
 stuck down. Pull it up with pliers, order a new one from
 Rusty, and don't floor it anymore, until it is replaced.
 :)
  rick
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On May 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:
  
  Driving into town today, everything seemed
 normal.  Then went through a stretch of road work, stop
 and go for 15 minutes or so.  Then at the next
 stoplight, when I started off the car would not shift out of
 1st gear (or do these start in 2nd?).  Anyway, no
 shifting in forward gears.  Reverse works OK.
  
  Pulled over and checked fluid, level is good
 and it looks clean and no foam.  Going to let it cool
 down and see if it's any different later.
  
  Ideas?
  
  Allan
  --
  1983 300D
  1979 300SD
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D

2011-05-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
I wholeheartedly agree!

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:52 PM, hue wong wong_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The knowledge displayed by the folks of this board just amazes meI wish
 everything had this kind of knowledge base1




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 --- On Thu, 5/5/11, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

  From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 10:20 AM
   It may be shorted internally, from
  water perhaps. You may have to unplug it.
 
  Rick
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On May 5, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
  wrote:
 
   Thanks I'll check that.  I don't recall flooring
  the accelerator to the point of hitting the kickdown switch,
  but I do tend to use a pretty heavy foot starting off from a
  stop (drive like you stole it, RIP Marshall).
  
   Allan
  
  
   On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:48 -0500, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 
  wrote:
   Passing gear switch under the throttle pedal is
  stuck down. Pull it up with pliers, order a new one from
  Rusty, and don't floor it anymore, until it is replaced.
  :)
   rick
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On May 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
  wrote:
  
   Driving into town today, everything seemed
  normal.  Then went through a stretch of road work, stop
  and go for 15 minutes or so.  Then at the next
  stoplight, when I started off the car would not shift out of
  1st gear (or do these start in 2nd?).  Anyway, no
  shifting in forward gears.  Reverse works OK.
  
   Pulled over and checked fluid, level is good
  and it looks clean and no foam.  Going to let it cool
  down and see if it's any different later.
  
   Ideas?
  
   Allan
   --
   1983 300D
   1979 300SD
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D

2011-05-05 Thread Allan Streib
I operated the kickdown switch manually a few times and the problem went
away.  It was not stuck down, nor does it seem sticky when I
depress/release it, but there does seem to be something at issue.

Allan

Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com writes:

 It may be shorted internally, from water perhaps. You may have to unplug it. 

 Rick

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 5, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Thanks I'll check that.  I don't recall flooring the accelerator to the 
 point of hitting the kickdown switch, but I do tend to use a pretty heavy 
 foot starting off from a stop (drive like you stole it, RIP Marshall).
 
 Allan
 
 
 On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:48 -0500, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 Passing gear switch under the throttle pedal is stuck down. Pull it up with 
 pliers, order a new one from Rusty, and don't floor it anymore, until it is 
 replaced. :)
 rick
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
 Driving into town today, everything seemed normal.  Then went through a 
 stretch of road work, stop and go for 15 minutes or so.  Then at the next 
 stoplight, when I started off the car would not shift out of 1st gear (or 
 do these start in 2nd?).  Anyway, no shifting in forward gears.  Reverse 
 works OK.
 
 Pulled over and checked fluid, level is good and it looks clean and no 
 foam.  Going to let it cool down and see if it's any different later.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1979 300SD
 
 
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[MBZ] W116 water under drivers seat

2011-05-05 Thread Allan Streib
Opened up the 300SD today to air it out.  We've had what's seemed like a
month of continuous rain and finally today is warm and sunny.

I've had it under a tarp (one of those blue poly woven ones) through all
the rain, because when I got it it had water on the floor so I knew
something was leaking.  The tarp should have stopped most/all of the
water from getting in, I would have thought.  But there was a pool of
water UNDER the driver's seat.  No sign of leakage or moisture anywhere
else.  What sort of a leak would pool up there without getting anything
else wet?

Allan
--
1979 300SD
1983 300D


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Re: [MBZ] W116 water under drivers seat

2011-05-05 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:

But there was a pool of
water UNDER the driver's seat.  No sign of leakage or moisture anywhere
else.  What sort of a leak would pool up there without getting anything
else wet?


I had a sunroof drain issue that resulted in water dripping from the right front 
of the sunroof opening in the headliner. I suppose the same could happen on the 
left side.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W208 CLK

2011-05-05 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Anybody want to weigh in on the merits or faults of the w208?..
 
Yes, Mitch, I do know about them. But before I go farther, I'll wait a bit 
until all the posts recommending 123s and 126s subside a bit

Whitenoisewhitenoisewhitenoise...

Now that that's over, here's what I know.

My friend JB bought a '99 CLK 430 V-8 new. It's a metallic red one with a 
sort of grey interior and I don't remember whether it's leather or not. He 
comes to my house every 5K miles to change the M1 0W40 with my Topsider. The 
car recently passed 100K miles and it has had very little trouble during that 
time aside from a few minor items, the last of which was as idler pulley of 
some sort. There is still no oil consumption. It is on it's 3rd set of 
tires, 17 inchers on staggered AMG wheels. Highway fuel consumption is in the 
mid-20s. 

I drove the car from Seattle to Portland when it was new and found it to be 
a bit noisier than my '95 C280 and the ride was bit stiffer which I 
attributed to the AMG influence. The V-8 exhaust sound is very nice, mostly 
outside. 

The CLK 320 uses the 3-valve V-6, twin plugs with a single cam per bank 
without variable valve timing and was used in other models including the W203 
C320 and the ML320 since 1997. These engines, provided that Mobil 1 (10K 
changes with fleece filter) is used have been pretty reliable. They don't leak 
oil and don't blow headgaskets like some past designs we are familiar with. 
The CLK 320 rides on 16 inch rather unatttractive wheels, not staggered. Fuel 
consumption around town will be around 20-21 and best highway might reach 
28mpg. Premium.

Both models have a 5-speed automatic with neither a manual trans or a 
diesel engine available. The CLK is not cursed with the nightmarish electronic 
faults of the early W203 since the early W208 was based on the W202 which, 
looking back, turned out to be a pretty good car providing it wasn't one of the 
4-cylinder models.

I suggest consulting Wikipedia for more info.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] suddenly, no shifting, 1983 300D

2011-05-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
A new kickdown switch costs maybe $15.  Good investment in this case.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I operated the kickdown switch manually a few times and the problem went
 away.  It was not stuck down, nor does it seem sticky when I
 depress/release it, but there does seem to be something at issue.

 Allan

 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com writes:

  It may be shorted internally, from water perhaps. You may have to unplug
 it.
 
  Rick
 
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  On May 5, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:
 
  Thanks I'll check that.  I don't recall flooring the accelerator to the
 point of hitting the kickdown switch, but I do tend to use a pretty heavy
 foot starting off from a stop (drive like you stole it, RIP Marshall).
 
  Allan
 
 
  On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:48 -0500, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  Passing gear switch under the throttle pedal is stuck down. Pull it up
 with pliers, order a new one from Rusty, and don't floor it anymore, until
 it is replaced. :)
  rick
 
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  On May 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:
 
  Driving into town today, everything seemed normal.  Then went through
 a stretch of road work, stop and go for 15 minutes or so.  Then at the next
 stoplight, when I started off the car would not shift out of 1st gear (or do
 these start in 2nd?).  Anyway, no shifting in forward gears.  Reverse works
 OK.
 
  Pulled over and checked fluid, level is good and it looks clean and no
 foam.  Going to let it cool down and see if it's any different later.
 
  Ideas?
 
  Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W116 water under drivers seat

2011-05-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Exactly my problem.  Open the sunroof and pour water in the four corners to
test which drains are blocked.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Allan Streib wrote:

 But there was a pool of
 water UNDER the driver's seat.  No sign of leakage or moisture anywhere
 else.  What sort of a leak would pool up there without getting anything
 else wet?


 I had a sunroof drain issue that resulted in water dripping from the right
 front of the sunroof opening in the headliner. I suppose the same could
 happen on the left side.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] W208 opinions

2011-05-05 Thread John Reames
Do the 208's share bad habits (rust in middle of panels, spring perch, etc) 
with the 210?

The rust issues are caused by first-gen water-borne paint

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 redghost wrote:
 
 Anybody want to weigh in on the merits or faults of the w208?
 
 You mean C208, or maybe A208?
 Aren't those just overpriced W202s?
 Woger knows all about W202.
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] the OK Don 300D

2011-05-05 Thread OK Don
You bought it first, not me, so it needs to be named the Kleb 300D 
It's been like a bad penny for you ;-)

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 93 days  But it is difficult to predict, because we don't know who got it,
 and what their level of experience/pain is.


 As sad day indeed, the OK Don 300D got sold again and left my driveway just
 a little while ago.  Any bets on how long it takes to come back this time?

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Re: [MBZ] W116 water under drivers seat

2011-05-05 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes:

 Exactly my problem.  Open the sunroof and pour water in the four corners to
 test which drains are blocked.

How do you clear a blocked drain?  Compressed air?  Stiff wire?

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