Re: [MBZ] High Quality Chinee Tools for RLE (was 25% off Coupon... Memorial Day Only!)

2011-06-05 Thread Walt Zarnoch
When I was in California last month I saw a guy working on his bike, he had
it hung from a tree with ratchet straps around the frame.

Was very outside the box for sure, seemed to work just fine though. I forget
what exactly he was doing to it though.

Walt
On May 31, 2011 11:03 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Alex Chamberlain wrote:

 Hmm, nice price, but no. What I want is the kind more like a (car)
 transmission jack, that you put under the engine to lift the whole
 bike up stably while taking its weight off both the front and rear
 wheels, making it easy to remove either or both, e.g. for suspension
 repairs.


 When I worked at a Honda dealer in the 1980s, we had platform lifts.
 Spent a lot more time messing with engines than with tires.

 Generally speaking, when you remove the front wheel with the bike on the
 centerstand, the rear wheel goes down. When doing tire/suspension work you
put
 the one end back together before you take the other end apart.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Clean Brake Pads

2011-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley

Larry T wrote:


One more question - re: the Ceramic Pads - one set is called Euro and the other set is ACT.  I don't recall that acronym -   Anyone know what ACT stands for?  



Here's a brochure, but it's not much help.
http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/pdf/akebono_brochure_english.pdf


They used to spell out A.C.T. in advertising, I think it was something like 
Akebono Ceramic Technology.


I'm doing OK with Wagner ThermoQuiet Ceramic on my Olds and my mom's Chevy.
Buy them whenever they're on same and Federal-Mogul is having a $15 rebate.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] High Quality Chinee Tools for RLE (was 25% off Coupon... Memorial Day Only!)

2011-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey
When I was in California last month I saw a guy working on his bike, 
he had

it hung from a tree with ratchet straps around the frame.


I hung our lawn tractor from the Unimog's crane once.
I was cutting and welding the frame back into shape,
using the tractor's own weight to help bend it back.
(I think the thing fell off the delivery truck onto
its nose, I got it at the liquidator's.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-05 Thread MG
Thanks Mitch, I'm not as good at that math thing to be able to 
figure that out off the top of my head. Matter of fact I 
generally have to think real good to make change most times. Oh 
well at least I can walk and chew gum at the same timeMost days.


Manfred




Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 21:21:41 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed


MG wrote:
 Wilton, wouldn't that be only measured at sea level? I would 
think that
 as you go higher in altitude that one minute of arc would get 
longer.
 Now mind I'm only thinking back to my school days and that 
circle and

 pie wedge thing in beginning geometry.

Remember that a circumference is 2pi x radius. So flying five 
nautical miles
high makes the whole lap around the globe 10pi miles longer. That 
extra 31.4
nautical miles adds 31.4 / 21600 = .00015 nautical miles or .88 
feet or 10.6 to
each mile in order to keep the minute of arc thing straight. 
That's a lot less

than the difference between ground speed and airspeed.


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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-05 Thread WILTON
So, do speed indicators on Aussie airplanes and sea-going vessels indicate 
knots or kilometers per hour?   ;))


BTW, an early standard for a meter is one ten-millionth of the distance 
along a prime meridian (also at sea level) from the equator to the North 
Pole.


Wilton

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From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed



And that is why I like the metric system, a kilometer is 1000 meters.
You and your bizarre backward system.

Hendrik

WILTON wrote:
BTW, a nautical mile (6080 feet) is also one minute of arc of latitude - 
on land, on water, on ice, in the air, wherever.  A statute mile, of 
course, is 5280 feet.


Because the definition of a knot is one nautical mile per hour, it is 
not necessary to repeat mph when speaking of knots.


Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] Clean Brake Pads

2011-06-05 Thread MG
I bought a set of ceramic pads from CarQuest a couple of years 
ago that in very small letters said made by Akebono on the side 
of the box. Tried just recently to get some more for one of my 
other MBs and they didn't have them any more. Didn't say who made 
them now. I should have bought more at the time, they were only 
around $38. The ones that I put on are nice and clean and haven't 
worn much at all. Neither have the disks.


Manfred



Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 06:31:53 -0400
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I'm doing OK with Wagner ThermoQuiet Ceramic on my Olds and my 
mom's Chevy.
Buy them whenever they're on same and Federal-Mogul is having a 
$15 rebate.


Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-05 Thread John Reames
Are you sure that the 606 uses a quart that often? The fill-max distance is 
about a quart, and both of mine end up halfway between post-change.  It takes 
6-8k miles for it to drop to add, so that's really 12-16k per quart...

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On Jun 2, 2011, at 18:09, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Allan, which weight of M1? My NA OM617 used a lot of M1, OM603 uses about one 
 quart per 2500 miles, OM606 about one quart per 5000 miles.
 
 Max
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[MBZ] OT global obesity alarm

2011-06-05 Thread Max Dillon
When I was taught navigation in NROTC back in nineteen hundred and
ninety-one, one nautical mile was 2000 yards, or 6000 feet, or one minute of
arc of latitude.  I can only assume that the earth must have gained some
girth, increasing the size of one minute of arc by 80 feet.

Someone tell the global warming folks about the new threat - global obesity,
whereby fuel consumption decreases and time slows down, costing our economy
billions!  Soon we won't even be able to reach Europe, let alone Australia!
Oh the horror!

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:29 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed

Technically, yes, but the difference is negligible in the range of altitudes

traveled by surface vessels and aircraft.  International convention has 
accepted and established a knot as one nautical mile (6080 feet - one minute

of arc of latitude) per hour.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed


 MG wrote:
 Wilton, wouldn't that be only measured at sea level? I would think that 
 as you go higher in altitude that one minute of arc would get longer. Now

 mind I'm only thinking back to my school days and that circle and pie 
 wedge thing in beginning geometry.

 Remember that a circumference is 2pi x radius. So flying five nautical 
 miles high makes the whole lap around the globe 10pi miles longer. That 
 extra 31.4 nautical miles adds 31.4 / 21600 = .00015 nautical miles or .88

 feet or 10.6 to each mile in order to keep the minute of arc thing 
 straight. That's a lot less than the difference between ground speed and 
 airspeed.

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Re: [MBZ] Clean Brake Pads

2011-06-05 Thread Max Dillon
I installed Akebono ceramic all the way around on my E300 (with new rotors, as 
recommended by the maker), and love them.  Performance (braking) is better, in 
my opinion.  They do dust, but nothing like the OE pads.  Have them on SWMBO's 
Infiniti I-30 as well, will never go back.

I know of at least one person who installed new Akebono ceramic pads on used 
rotors on an MB, and suffered no ill consequences.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry T
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:35 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Clean Brake Pads



Howdy - 

I'm planning to order a set of Ceramic Brake Pads for the front of our '91 300D 
(W124) and would like the lists thoughts on the following:. 



The Akebono ceramic Pads with Shims are a touch north of $70 from Rusty.   
There are some pads from 

Are these Pads completely Clean?  i.e., no brake dust?  Or is it a white dust? 

Is their performance different?  Better / Worse? 

Longevity: better/worse? 

Any bad experiences? 

Are the Shims the tyical shims used as backing plates for many pads? 

Should anything else be upgraded? 

There's also a set of Euro ceramic pads - for Euro MBs I assume?  Any value 
added to use them on a US model - if it's even possible? 





There's also a set of OES Genuine Pads for roughly the same money - were they 
trying to say they're OEM pads?  Is one set better than the other?  y 
better I mean longer lasting, better feel, less fade, etc.  The standard 
stuff.There's also a half dozen sets of standard pads for $50-$60/set. 



BTW, a few years ago I bought a set of calipers and rotors from another list 
member - off a 95 E320 IIRC but for the life of me I cannot think of you I 
bought them from - I'd like to know if you're stil out there?  They have 
performed flawlessly although I haven't gotten around to relacing the rears 
with the ones I bought from you. 



Thanks to all who provide the great comments that appear here on a daily basis! 



LarryT 

91 300D 

78 240D 

74 911 

Let your engine tell you how healthy it is!   Visit www.youroil.net   For 
Inexpensive Oil Test 

Thanks to all who provide the great comments that appear here on a daily basis! 



LarryT 

91 300D 

78 240D 

74 911 

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-05 Thread Max Dillon
You are correct, when the low oil light started blinking, I added half a
quart, which was actually at 5500 miles, so roughly 1 qt per 11,000 miles.

It's my first fill of M1 in this engine, so it may get better, but I'm happy
with current consumption.  

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of John Reames
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:19 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

Are you sure that the 606 uses a quart that often? The fill-max distance is
about a quart, and both of mine end up halfway between post-change.  It
takes 6-8k miles for it to drop to add, so that's really 12-16k per
quart...

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On Jun 2, 2011, at 18:09, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Allan, which weight of M1? My NA OM617 used a lot of M1, OM603 uses about
one quart per 2500 miles, OM606 about one quart per 5000 miles.
 
 Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT global obesity alarm

2011-06-05 Thread WILTON
Well, I guess if one is going very low and slow (for example, a surface 
vessel at 20 or so knots) and can take half a day to get a fix (a known 
position), the difference is not very important, but at 600+ knots it can 
become a little more significant.  Your NROTC instructor was making it 
easier for you by rounding a nautical mile down to 6000 feet from 6076.10 
feet as stated on page 2-5 of Air Navigation Manual (AFM 51-40, NAVAIR 
00-80V-49, dated 1 Jul 73).   ;)))  For me, it has been rounded up to 
6080 feet for 50 years.


Other definitions of a nautical mile in the same paragraph:  One minute of 
arc of a great circle on a sphere having an area equal to that of the earth. 
One minute of arc on the earth's equator (geographic mile) - 6087.08 feet. 
One minute of arc on a meridian - one minute of latitude.  Two thousand 
yards for short distances, i. e., very low and very slow.   ;)))


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT global obesity alarm



When I was taught navigation in NROTC back in nineteen hundred and
ninety-one, one nautical mile was 2000 yards, or 6000 feet, or one minute 
of

arc of latitude.  I can only assume that the earth must have gained some
girth, increasing the size of one minute of arc by 80 feet.

Someone tell the global warming folks about the new threat - global 
obesity,
whereby fuel consumption decreases and time slows down, costing our 
economy
billions!  Soon we won't even be able to reach Europe, let alone 
Australia!

Oh the horror!

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:29 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed

Technically, yes, but the difference is negligible in the range of 
altitudes


traveled by surface vessels and aircraft.  International convention has
accepted and established a knot as one nautical mile (6080 feet - one 
minute


of arc of latitude) per hour.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed



MG wrote:

Wilton, wouldn't that be only measured at sea level? I would think that
as you go higher in altitude that one minute of arc would get longer. 
Now



mind I'm only thinking back to my school days and that circle and pie
wedge thing in beginning geometry.


Remember that a circumference is 2pi x radius. So flying five nautical
miles high makes the whole lap around the globe 10pi miles longer. That
extra 31.4 nautical miles adds 31.4 / 21600 = .00015 nautical miles or 
.88



feet or 10.6 to each mile in order to keep the minute of arc thing
straight. That's a lot less than the difference between ground speed and
airspeed.

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Re: [MBZ] Clean brake pads

2011-06-05 Thread Tony Wirtel
Larry, I've had Akebono euros on my '92 300e for abt a year.  Initially
installed b/c the Textar pads I bought had a lot of squealing since new and
even triggered the ABS system at low speeds even w/pulling and cleaning
multiple times.  Only possible issue is that the pads seem loose and will
clunk when backing up.  I didn't measure to see if the pads are a bit
undersize or what notwith a car pushing 20 years old I'm OK with it.

Stay away from anything oes genuine...99 and 44/100ths percent chance that
it's junk or worse.

Tony Wirtel
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Re: [MBZ] OT global obesity alarm

2011-06-05 Thread Craig
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 13:38:27 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Your NROTC instructor was making it easier for you by rounding a
 nautical mile down to 6000 feet from 6076.10 feet as stated on page 2-5
 of Air Navigation Manual (AFM 51-40, NAVAIR 00-80V-49, dated 1 Jul
 73).   ;)))

The Linux units program says it's 6076.1155.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Speed

2011-06-05 Thread RELNGSON
 RLE wrote:
  The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.
 
 And... why is that?
 As I understand it - there is little room for error of any sort at
 those altitudes.Hand flying at lower altitude is able to be accomplished 
 because error
 is less likely to be catastrophic
 
Two reasons I can think of right off the bat. As an airplane gets closer to 
it's service ceiling, the speed difference between a stall and overspeed 
(VNE) gets narrower and the autopilot can avoid either of these better than 
hand flying. The air is pretty thin up there and stalls occur easier and 
recovery is not the same as at low altitude. Think of the SR-71.

The other reason would be ATC requirements in that IFR aircraft are 
expected to be absolutely on assigned altitude and heading without deviating. 
Again, the autopilot is far better at this than any attempt at hand flying.

As one good example of a high altitude stall, read this: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacle_Airlines_Flight_3701

And then, scroll down to References and view Crash of Pinnacle 
Airlines..

RLE



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[MBZ] test

2011-06-05 Thread Rich Thomas

dgfasdfsdf

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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] My 300D 4 speed is up for sale

2011-06-05 Thread Daryll Rardon Personal Account
Nice looking 300D!

Daryll Rardon
Sent from my ATT wireless device. 

On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a spurt of energy, good weather, and a little free time today, so I 
 managed to get a nice CL ad together for my 300D 4 speed.
 
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2419771458.html
 
 Jaime
 
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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-05 Thread Rich Thomas

kilometers per hour

knots is nautical miles per hour

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On 6/3/11 3:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at 
altitude?..

 

Knots are knots, never knots per hour.

The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] test

2011-06-05 Thread Walt Zarnoch
You failed, that doesn't even spell anything!

Walt

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richthomas79.30...@gmail.com wrote:
 dgfasdfsdf

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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Don't know but I know the passenger display in airliners shows the 
planes speed in kmh but I would guess the persons up the front would 
have the old school readout.


Hendrik
who is off to work, hei ho hei ho hei ho

WILTON wrote:
So, do speed indicators on Aussie airplanes and sea-going vessels 
indicate knots or kilometers per hour?   ;))


BTW, an early standard for a meter is one ten-millionth of the 
distance along a prime meridian (also at sea level) from the equator 
to the North Pole.


Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-05 Thread WILTON

My thoughts, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed


Don't know but I know the passenger display in airliners shows the 
planes speed in kmh but I would guess the persons up the front would 
have the old school readout.


Hendrik
who is off to work, hei ho hei ho hei ho

WILTON wrote:
So, do speed indicators on Aussie airplanes and sea-going vessels 
indicate knots or kilometers per hour?   ;))


BTW, an early standard for a meter is one ten-millionth of the 
distance along a prime meridian (also at sea level) from the equator 
to the North Pole.


Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] OT global obesity alarm

2011-06-05 Thread rogerhga
Hey guys, 
Could you move this discussion over to the PCRKOR Forum (Pilots that Crashed 
because they rounded the knots and overshot the runway). I as well as others 
may be getting bored by now because we are simply ignorant, don't fly, don't 
care, etc. I probably need to take my comments over to the NOGBHRB Forum (No 
one gives a big harry rats butt). And after all, next year (2012) it won't 
matter what size you use as we'll all be gone or severely maimed due to the end 
of the world by Mayan Calendar close, the Earth's magnetic field flipping the 
poles, or the Earth screeching to a halt to reverse its 26,000 year wobble 
cycle. Or throw in the big chunk of the Hawaiian Island falling off causing a 
tsunami that wipes out most of the Earth's coastlines in the Pacific rim. Or a 
large meteor hits again... Take your pick and you'll see that the length of a 
knot or bow tie or twist tie won't really matter that much. 
Best Wishes and safe landing (how long is that runway?), 
Roger Hale 
Monroe, Ga. 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL almost-overheating...

2011-06-05 Thread Tim C
Okay, so since the 300D is the daily driver for the week, I got
coolant out of the SDL.

Dumped radiator.  Vague dull green, should have used a clean bucket so
I'm not sure how much of the dirt was from the car - but ah!
Everything else on this car was 100% by the book, was not expecting to
see the green.  Anyway that was clean enough, just dirt if anything.

Then I pulled the drain from the block, using oil catch pan.  Dumped
into bucket, shocking amount of sludge.  And oil!

I am ashamed to admit that it took me more than 10 minutes to realize
the oil was probably from my drain pan. :)

Anyway, I don't have a resolution - will have to stop at the CarQuest
to pick up some Zerex tomorrow - but I figured you all would get a
kick out of it.  And I am glad I drained all that green goop out, will
let you know if it helps.

Thanks,
-Tim

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a question about the inlet - outlet temp testing.  In theory - even
 if a significant drop is noted,  (such as 20C), wouldn't a blocked radiator
 reduce the volume of water being cycled?  So even with an effective water
 pump, the cooling system would be unable to keep up with the heat producd by
 the engine.  The only accurate way to do the test is to mimic the conditions
 in which the car overheats.  The best way I have found to measure the
 radiators effectivness is using the IR thermomter and splitting the radiator
 into 6 sections, and drawing it on a pice of paper.  Then using the IR
 thermometer maping the temps.  As discussed, you almost always find a cool
 spot.  A small differential in temp will be greatly amplified when the
 engine is producing alot of heat.




 On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Shouldn't matter once the car is moving...

 My '85's fan clutch didn't work at all and as long as it didn't sit still
 for a long time.

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 23:37:12 -0400
 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL almost-overheating...
 Message-ID: banlktimt6krpjcewn5kmxyfwy1vwgmm...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 What about the fan clutch - have you checked it?

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  I'm in a similar boat with my '84 190D. When I asked last week many folks
  suggested the radiator needs replacing. I haven't done any more
  troubleshooting since then as the car was with my Indy for a window
  regulator, I'll be picking it up tomorrow AM.
 
  The suggestion was that a radiator flush with citric acid couldn't hurt
 and
  was inexpensive in everything but time. I'll try it in a couple weeks.
 
  -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Speed

2011-06-05 Thread Mountain Man
RLE wrote:
 Think of the SR-71.

Yeah.
And that is old old technology.
Did they have some autopilot mechanisms to fly that baby?
What was their service ceiling?
I remember my visit to the air museum there at Boeing field and
speaking with the docent there about the blackbird class aircraft they
have.  He was mentioning they take off with very little fuel, then
they fully fuel and do their mission.  He said the aircraft would heat
up and then the aircraft would stop leaking fuel.  Then when they
land, he said they needed to circle around for an hour at low altitude
to cool off the skin and when they landed, nobody could touch the skin
as it was blistering hot.  All from 1950 design - not much like that
even in today's fleet, it seems.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] test

2011-06-05 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
 dgfasdfsdf

hmmm...
Rich must be having problems.
This shows it was sent 2 days ago.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 accelerator pedal

2011-06-05 Thread Tim C
I was on I-85 going 60-ish and realized the car was stuck in low gear.
 Heating up... heating up... trying to think of a way to convince
SWMBO to come get me... and then, downshift.  Since then I have had no
problem at all with the throttle response.

Car has been a bit more responsive, too, thanks list Italians! :)

In retrospect I think my kickdown switch was stuck, presumably because
the pedal was pushing it.  Not sure why the transmission kicking back
would help the pedal, or if it was heat melting grease into places it
needed to be, or just coincidence.  It seems like the consensus is
dirt in the spring and/or on the floor behind the pedal so I'll check
those if it comes back.

Thanks all!
-Tim
Yes, I passed inspection, first time.  Final NC inspection for that
car, thanks to 35-year exemption.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:49 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 There's usually a coil spring vertically in the throttle mechanism
 immediately in front of firewall, between firewall and engine.  This spring
 was so stiff/strong on my 123's and, I think, the 126, first thing I did
 when I first got 'em home was to reach down in there and remove 'em; 'may
 have couple of 'em in basement.  'Don't remember having that stiffness
 problem with the 124.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 accelerator pedal


 I'm trying to remember if there is a spring under the dash. I know there
 is a pivot point you can lube.

 -Max
 --
 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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[MBZ] OT Porsche list

2011-06-05 Thread E M
Larry,

I have changed my primary emial address, and need to sign up again for the
Porsche list, especially as it's now Porsche season.  ;-)  I dropped my old
email provider, but I'm now having problems finding the old sign-up page for
the 911 list.  Could either you or Roger please shoot me the link?

Thanks in advance.

Ed
300E

ps, the old 911 fired right up, first turn of the key when I got her out
this year, and is running great.  Wishing you and Roger a great porsche
driving season!  :-)



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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL almost-overheating...

2011-06-05 Thread Craig
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:21:34 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

 Anyway, I don't have a resolution - will have to stop at the CarQuest
 to pick up some Zerex tomorrow - but I figured you all would get a
 kick out of it.

Yup. Reminds us of things we have done ourselves. And don't want to do
again, so the reminder is good.


 And I am glad I drained all that green goop out, will let you know if
 it helps.

If you can locate any citric acid powder, flushing out the cooling system
with that first would be a good idea.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT global obesity alarm

2011-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey

(No one gives a big harry rats butt).


Who's Harry Rat?  :-)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Speed

2011-06-05 Thread Russ Williams
The SR-71 leaked like a sieve on the ground. From the SR-71's Wikipedia 
site.



 Fuel

Development began with using a coal slurry powerplant,^[20] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird#cite_note-johnson_bio-21 
but Johnson determined that the coal particles damaged engine 
components. He then began researching a liquid hydrogen 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_hydrogen powerplant, but the tanks 
required to store cryogenic hydrogen 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_fuel did not suit the 
Blackbird's size and shape.^[20] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird#cite_note-johnson_bio-21 



The focus then became somewhat more conventional, though still 
specialized in many ways. The result was JP-7 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP-7 jet fuel, which had a relatively 
high flash point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_point (140 °F, 60 
°C) to cope with the heat. The fuel was used as a coolant 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolant and hydraulic fluid 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_fluid in the aircraft before 
being burned. The fuel contained fluorocarbons 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorocarbons to increase its lubricity, 
an oxidizing agent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxidizing_agent to 
enable it to burn in the engines, and even a cesium 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesium compound, A-50, which disguised 
the exhaust's radar signature.


JP-7 is very slippery, a disadvantage on the ground, because the 
aircraft leaked small amounts of fuel when not flying. However, JP-7 was 
not a fire hazard.


The fuel is also extremely difficult to light in any conventional way. 
When the engines were started, puffs of triethylborane 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triethylborane (TEB), which ignites on 
contact with air http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrophoricity, were 
injected into the engines to produce temperatures high enough to ignite 
the JP-7. The TEB produced a characteristic puff of greenish flame that 
could often be seen as the engines were ignited.^[21] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird#cite_note-Shul-22 TEB 
was also used to ignite the afterburners 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterburner. The aircraft carried 20 
fluid ounces (600 ml) of TEB per engine, enough for at least 16 
injections (a counter told the pilot how many TEB injections remained), 
more than enough for any missions it was likely to carry out.


Another amazing work of Kelly Johnson and the Skunk Works.

Russ W,

On 6/5/2011 7:34 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

RLE wrote:

Think of the SR-71.

Yeah.
And that is old old technology.
Did they have some autopilot mechanisms to fly that baby?
What was their service ceiling?
I remember my visit to the air museum there at Boeing field and
speaking with the docent there about the blackbird class aircraft they
have.  He was mentioning they take off with very little fuel, then
they fully fuel and do their mission.  He said the aircraft would heat
up and then the aircraft would stop leaking fuel.  Then when they
land, he said they needed to circle around for an hour at low altitude
to cool off the skin and when they landed, nobody could touch the skin
as it was blistering hot.  All from 1950 design - not much like that
even in today's fleet, it seems.
mao

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