[MBZ] Online EPC down?
Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately? After logging in I click the link that says Launch EPC-Net Online---then almost immediately I get a small box saying Unable to launch EPC and under that a window saying Requested http://epc-prod.startekinfo.com/EPC-net/servlets/epc.jar. Failed to load resource. I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a *newer* version of Java instead? I'm running XP SP3, if that gives anyone any ideas. (Other than that I should try doing this in Linux.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show...
Get a bigger hammer Roger and tell us what magic you used on the near new C class to impress people. The problem I see is that if it is anything like last year, there will be people parking their precious things near trees. The horror, imagine if a bird flew over a shiny car andno I can't say it, just the thought of it drives me to declare that any future car shows must be conducted indoors. You're best off not to post pictures of the show, we would be horrified to see MB cars outdoors. Hendrik who now has the the TE parked in the garage and it will never leave that spot relng...@aol.com wrote: Here are some pictures from the 2010 MBCA Seattle Car Show at the Nile Country Club... Except that what worked last night doesn't today. I'll fix it. I hope. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Trip update
Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
And that fully loaded with 5 people, trunk packed with bags and tools. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: And that fully loaded with 5 people, trunk packed with bags and tools. Tomorrow morning, blow the tires up to 40psi cold and see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Wowsers! And that's a NA E300D, right? Wonder if the '98-'99 turbos get even better mileage at a steady highway cruise? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip report
Kaleb wrote: Not sure off hand where that is in relation to where we will be but the plan it to be at niagra falls tomorrow for overnight. I missed the part where you explained the purpose of your trip. Did you buy a car and take it on a road trip? Or are you delivering a car? Or picking up a car? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show 2010
I got this link to work: https://picasaweb.google.com/117530990844305295379/MBCASEATTLE2010CARS HOW#slideshow/5634224678813311794 There are some beautiful cars in there. I was surprised how much I didn't really care about the more modern cars. I liked the black 280SE convertible, the white 280SL and the brown SL with Pagoda top. Beautiful cars. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip report
Going to the wife family in Maine, maybe a car will follow be home, in fact there is a rusty 210 98 wagon in mass that might follow me Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Not sure off hand where that is in relation to where we will be but the plan it to be at niagra falls tomorrow for overnight. I missed the part where you explained the purpose of your trip. Did you buy a car and take it on a road trip? Or are you delivering a car? Or picking up a car? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip report
Where in ME is your wife's family from? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Going to the wife family in Maine, maybe a car will follow be home, in fact there is a rusty 210 98 wagon in mass that might follow me Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Not sure off hand where that is in relation to where we will be but the plan it to be at niagra falls tomorrow for overnight. I missed the part where you explained the purpose of your trip. Did you buy a car and take it on a road trip? Or are you delivering a car? Or picking up a car? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One music composer - was: GUMP is DEAD
Ok Don wrote: Well, it's best to have all of them --- I even like some Shostikovich (sp?). Me, too. (Its Shostakovich). I like some of the lesser known composers, too. Especially, Bartok and Berlioz. Of modern composers, Carl Orff is by far my favorite - notably for his opera, Carmina Burana. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin lt;ka...@striplin.netgt; wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Yea well when you have kids you will understand Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin lt;ka...@striplin.netgt; wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip report
Lagrange, it's a real crap hole. Not like the other placed that come to mind when thinking about Maine. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Where in ME is your wife's family from? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Going to the wife family in Maine, maybe a car will follow be home, in fact there is a rusty 210 98 wagon in mass that might follow me Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Not sure off hand where that is in relation to where we will be but the plan it to be at niagra falls tomorrow for overnight. I missed the part where you explained the purpose of your trip. Did you buy a car and take it on a road trip? Or are you delivering a car? Or picking up a car? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip report
Perfect! You can load my 300D engine in MD in the hatch of the wagon. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Going to the wife family in Maine, maybe a car will follow be home, in fact there is a rusty 210 98 wagon in mass that might follow me Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Not sure off hand where that is in relation to where we will be but the plan it to be at niagra falls tomorrow for overnight. I missed the part where you explained the purpose of your trip. Did you buy a car and take it on a road trip? Or are you delivering a car? Or picking up a car? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One music composer - was: GUMP is DEAD
And don't forget Prokofiev. The third piano concerto is - for want of a better word - shocking. No transitions between themes, great vehicle for a virtuoso, terrific orchestration. Knocks me for a loop every time I hear it, and the ending takes your breath away. The William Kapell recording from the early 1950s is the gold standard for this piece. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Ok Don wrote: Well, it's best to have all of them --- I even like some Shostikovich (sp?). Me, too. (Its Shostakovich). I like some of the lesser known composers, too. Especially, Bartok and Berlioz. Of modern composers, Carl Orff is by far my favorite - notably for his opera, Carmina Burana. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip report
Sounds like you are almost ready to pay someone to haul that engine away for you. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:37 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect! You can load my 300D engine in MD in the hatch of the wagon. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Going to the wife family in Maine, maybe a car will follow be home, in fact there is a rusty 210 98 wagon in mass that might follow me Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Not sure off hand where that is in relation to where we will be but the plan it to be at niagra falls tomorrow for overnight. I missed the part where you explained the purpose of your trip. Did you buy a car and take it on a road trip? Or are you delivering a car? Or picking up a car? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
How he texts and drive at the same time is truly phenomenal. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Yea well when you have kids you will understand Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin lt;ka...@striplin.netgt; wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip report
Not quite there yet but the price is dipping... On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like you are almost ready to pay someone to haul that engine away for you. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:37 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect! You can load my 300D engine in MD in the hatch of the wagon. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Going to the wife family in Maine, maybe a car will follow be home, in fact there is a rusty 210 98 wagon in mass that might follow me Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Not sure off hand where that is in relation to where we will be but the plan it to be at niagra falls tomorrow for overnight. I missed the part where you explained the purpose of your trip. Did you buy a car and take it on a road trip? Or are you delivering a car? Or picking up a car? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv, shaft too...
Philip, If it helps on two different 300D's both 83's, I have measured from 5 to 6 lbs boost at 55-60mph. So if yours is doing that then I would think it is pretty much normal. The max boost I have measured on both is right at 9lbs so the 5-6lbs is not due to the bypass valve opening. BTW on one of these the turbo is rebuilt so everything should be in good condition and therefor normal as from the factory. I can't see any way to increase the boost at highway speeds other then to use a different turbo (smaller or larger?) that would turn at higher RPM to increase boost. Manfred Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:37:56 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too... I don't like the long-legged gearing on my 85. The engine is running too slow at low highway speeds. (Best I can remember. The tach is still dead) The turbo isn't really working much at 55-60 mph. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Philly
When I was a kid we drove to Philly. While on that trip I recall going to the beach and swimming in the ocean. Where might that have been? Thinking maybe going back that way. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
And also very illegal in NY. Troopers are out to collect revenue, watch your speed here and don't get caught talking or texting on the cell phone. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:42 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How he texts and drive at the same time is truly phenomenal. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yea well when you have kids you will understand Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin lt;ka...@striplin.netgt; wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
I'm not driving i am riding at the moment. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: And also very illegal in NY. Troopers are out to collect revenue, watch your speed here and don't get caught talking or texting on the cell phone. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:42 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How he texts and drive at the same time is truly phenomenal. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yea well when you have kids you will understand Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin lt;ka...@striplin.netgt; wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Speaking of new york, if we do go back via NYC, how much of a traffic problem are we talking about? Does it take a long time to get thru there? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: And also very illegal in NY. Troopers are out to collect revenue, watch your speed here and don't get caught talking or texting on the cell phone. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:42 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How he texts and drive at the same time is truly phenomenal. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yea well when you have kids you will understand Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin lt;ka...@striplin.netgt; wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I'm not driving i am riding at the moment. Hunter's turn to drive? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] on-line EPC
I wasn't aware there was an on-line EPC. Anyone got a link to an on-line EPC for a W123? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] on-line EPC
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:52 AM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I wasn't aware there was an on-line EPC. Anyone got a link to an on-line EPC for a W123? TIA. epc.startekinfo.com Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately? ... I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a *newer* version of Java instead? I think I just figured it out, and my guess was right. Works fine on another XP SP3 machine with Java Version 6 Update 26 build 1.6.0_26-b03 (per the About Java box in the Java control panel). I don't have the first machine in front of me, but I know it's got an older Java on it, maybe even Version 5. Summary: If the EPC isn't working, try updating Java to the latest version at http://www.java.com/en/download/. Hope this helps somebody else besides me! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Depends on time of day. From around 7-9 am and 3-6pm I have found traffic to be the worst in the city. I usually have little trouble with traffic on the major routes. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Speaking of new york, if we do go back via NYC, how much of a traffic problem are we talking about? Does it take a long time to get thru there? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: And also very illegal in NY. Troopers are out to collect revenue, watch your speed here and don't get caught talking or texting on the cell phone. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:42 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How he texts and drive at the same time is truly phenomenal. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yea well when you have kids you will understand Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin lt;ka...@striplin.netgt; wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Philly
No idea. I wouldn't get in the water anywhere near Camden, NJ. That is the worst smelling place on the East coast. No ocean there though. Gotta go across NJ to get to the ocean from Philly. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: When I was a kid we drove to Philly. While on that trip I recall going to the beach and swimming in the ocean. Where might that have been? Thinking maybe going back that way. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Philly
If you are thinking about rte 80 across PA there are some seriously steep and long hills/mountains along that route so be sure the brakes are up to it. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: When I was a kid we drove to Philly. While on that trip I recall going to the beach and swimming in the ocean. Where might that have been? Thinking maybe going back that way. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv, shaft too...
Proper boost is 11psi. Youd be surprised how much of a diff 2-3 psi makes. You might be able to increase cruising boost by using a manual boost controller. The waste gate will start opening as it approaches max psi, making for more of a curve, with the mbc you get a straight ride up and then a direct fall off. -Rolf On 07/29/2011 10:43 AM, MG wrote: Philip, If it helps on two different 300D's both 83's, I have measured from 5 to 6 lbs boost at 55-60mph. So if yours is doing that then I would think it is pretty much normal. The max boost I have measured on both is right at 9lbs so the 5-6lbs is not due to the bypass valve opening. BTW on one of these the turbo is rebuilt so everything should be in good condition and therefor normal as from the factory. I can't see any way to increase the boost at highway speeds other then to use a different turbo (smaller or larger?) that would turn at higher RPM to increase boost. Manfred Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:37:56 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too... I don't like the long-legged gearing on my 85. The engine is running too slow at low highway speeds. (Best I can remember. The tach is still dead) The turbo isn't really working much at 55-60 mph. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300
As I had said, I was able to do so with just a cheap, low wattage soldering iron. This obviously entails either knowing what the component is and being able to source it, or having a spare junk source for parts (as I did in the ThinkPad motherboard case). Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 6:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300 Surface mount components aren't all that hard to replace if you have a hot air soldering station, but one must have the correct components, and these days that's very unlikely -- everything is a custom part and once the design run is finished, they stop making them. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
I have Java 6, latest version, still EPC doesn't load or open. It does give me a courteous message stating it won't open however.. how kind. Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard copy book that you could look at? Ahh, the good old days. Funny thing... that book never crashed and I could carry it to the car and lay it on the fender while sorting out what went to what, even if the electricity went out. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately? ... I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a *newer* version of Java instead? I think I just figured it out, and my guess was right. Works fine on another XP SP3 machine with Java Version 6 Update 26 build 1.6.0_26-b03 (per the About Java box in the Java control panel). I don't have the first machine in front of me, but I know it's got an older Java on it, maybe even Version 5. Summary: If the EPC isn't working, try updating Java to the latest version at http://www.java.com/en/download/. Hope this helps somebody else besides me! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
The EPC has been having issues all week. The bad thing is when it is down it is down for everyone, including MB dealers. They really hate it. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:50:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down? I have Java 6, latest version, still EPC doesn't load or open. It does give me a courteous message stating it won't open however.. how kind. Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard copy book that you could look at? Ahh, the good old days. Funny thing... that book never crashed and I could carry it to the car and lay it on the fender while sorting out what went to what, even if the electricity went out. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately? ... I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a *newer* version of Java instead? I think I just figured it out, and my guess was right. Works fine on another XP SP3 machine with Java Version 6 Update 26 build 1.6.0_26-b03 (per the About Java box in the Java control panel). I don't have the first machine in front of me, but I know it's got an older Java on it, maybe even Version 5. Summary: If the EPC isn't working, try updating Java to the latest version at http://www.java.com/en/download/. Hope this helps somebody else besides me! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
Thats because the optimal cruising speed for a 85 300d with 2.88 gearing is 74.5mph. -Rolf I don't like the long-legged gearing on my 85. The engine is running too slow at low highway speeds. (Best I can remember. The tach is still dead) The turbo isn't really working much at 55-60 mph. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
Remember the more boost the more fuel is being burnt. Ideally you want 1500 rpm at speed. I am at 1500rpm at 55mph in my 87 300d with the 5 speed. -Rolf On 07/28/2011 07:08 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: I was thinking the 85 gears would get me better fuel economy at highway speeds. Maybe at the cost of worse mileage overall if the turbo isn't spooled up enough at average travel speeds. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show...
Not having a dog in this fight between you and Roger, I don't know what's going on here but your post has given me an opportunity to ask the following: Why does someone spend 400 plus dollars for great looking wheels and then let them deteriorate to the point of looking like steel or painted wheels? Is there a little shortage of soap and water Down Under? Just wonderin', John On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Get a bigger hammer Roger and tell us what magic you used on the near new C class to impress people. The problem I see is that if it is anything like last year, there will be people parking their precious things near trees. The horror, imagine if a bird flew over a shiny car andno I can't say it, just the thought of it drives me to declare that any future car shows must be conducted indoors. You're best off not to post pictures of the show, we would be horrified to see MB cars outdoors. Hendrik who now has the the TE parked in the garage and it will never leave that spot relng...@aol.com wrote: Here are some pictures from the 2010 MBCA Seattle Car Show at the Nile Country Club... Except that what worked last night doesn't today. I'll fix it. I hope. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
What is the optimal cruising speed for the 83 300d? Mike On Jul 29, 2011 1:53 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Thats because the optimal cruising speed for a 85 300d with 2.88 gearing is 74.5mph. -Rolf I don't like the long-legged gearing on my 85. The engine is running too slow at low highway speeds. (Best I can remember. The tach is still dead) The turbo isn't really working much at 55-60 mph. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
With a very limited geek skill, I found that Java wasn't getting validation of the license source for the EPC site...[if I'm understanding what I saw written in geekese] Anyway, it's above my pay grade. someone please let us know if it ever works again. Sounds like a useful tool in keeping our MBZ on the street and out of the dust bin. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: The EPC has been having issues all week. The bad thing is when it is down it is down for everyone, including MB dealers. They really hate it. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:50:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down? I have Java 6, latest version, still EPC doesn't load or open. It does give me a courteous message stating it won't open however.. how kind. Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard copy book that you could look at? Ahh, the good old days. Funny thing... that book never crashed and I could carry it to the car and lay it on the fender while sorting out what went to what, even if the electricity went out. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else not been able to get into the online EPC lately? ... I've deliberately not updated the version of Java on this machine since I started using the online EPC, because I know it's sensitive to that---wonder if they finally changed it so that now it requires a *newer* version of Java instead? I think I just figured it out, and my guess was right. Works fine on another XP SP3 machine with Java Version 6 Update 26 build 1.6.0_26-b03 (per the About Java box in the Java control panel). I don't have the first machine in front of me, but I know it's got an older Java on it, maybe even Version 5. Summary: If the EPC isn't working, try updating Java to the latest version at http://www.java.com/en/download/. Hope this helps somebody else besides me! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
68mph I would guess. 2.88/3.07*120kph. The was in a thread I read quoted from MB, I think this is not over all MPG but bang for buck assuming time and diesel costs money. -Rolf On 07/29/2011 02:01 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: What is the optimal cruising speed for the 83 300d? Mike On Jul 29, 2011 1:53 PM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: Thats because the optimal cruising speed for a 85 300d with 2.88 gearing is 74.5mph. -Rolf I don't like the long-legged gearing on my 85. The engine is running too slow at low highway speeds. (Best I can remember. The tach is still dead) The turbo isn't really working much at 55-60 mph. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For Kaleb: Routes around NYC
Kaleb, Depending where you're coming from, (Maine?) You may want to hook up with I-84, shoot across CT into NY, across the hudson river and pick up the NYS Thruway to I-287, where you can get several westbound Interstates (I-80 and I-78). You can avoid the I-95 traffic headed to NYC, and the city itself, if you want to. Wanna go to the Jersey Shore, stay on I-287 and pick the the Garden State Parkway. Exit 100 is Ocean Grove (my favorite) and Asbury Park. Just south of there, you can pick up I-195 and head back to the Jersey Turnpike (I-95) towards Philly or wherever else you want to go. Just some suggestions. Drive Safely... Angelo Giaimo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Uh no Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I'm not driving i am riding at the moment. Hunter's turn to drive? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Philly
Maybe Atlantic city is where we went Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: No idea. I wouldn't get in the water anywhere near Camden, NJ. That is the worst smelling place on the East coast. No ocean there though. Gotta go across NJ to get to the ocean from Philly. Mike On Jul 29, 2011 10:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: When I was a kid we drove to Philly. While on that trip I recall going to the beach and swimming in the ocean. Where might that have been? Thinking maybe going back that way. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For Kaleb: Routes around NYC
If we do go that way going to head down thru Philly and dc maybe Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Angelo Giaimo michaelangel...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, Depending where you're coming from, (Maine?) You may want to hook up with I-84, shoot across CT into NY, across the hudson river and pick up the NYS Thruway to I-287, where you can get several westbound Interstates (I-80 and I-78). You can avoid the I-95 traffic headed to NYC, and the city itself, if you want to. Wanna go to the Jersey Shore, stay on I-287 and pick the the Garden State Parkway. Exit 100 is Ocean Grove (my favorite) and Asbury Park. Just south of there, you can pick up I-195 and head back to the Jersey Turnpike (I-95) towards Philly or wherever else you want to go. Just some suggestions. Drive Safely... Angelo Giaimo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Philly
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Maybe Atlantic city is where we went Under the Boardwalk, down by the sea... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyzCccndc2w ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
That's awesome mpg! I'm glad to hear the 210 is doing well. -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 6:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Trip update Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Philly
Hi Kaleb, My son went to college in Philly. There is a straight shot from Philly across southern Jersey to the Jersey shore, via the Atlantic City Expressway. If you are coming thru NYC, you would take the Garden State Parkway to the shore, rather than go to Philly and then head east. NYC traffic really depends on the day and time of travel. I-95 in southwestern CT can be a 20 mile + parking lot if you time it wrong. Don't even think about it during morning (7-9am) or evening (3-6 or even 7 on a Friday) rush hours. Other than that it isn't bad unless there is an accident that ties things up. On a good day I can make it straight thru the city and across the Hudson River in 90 minutes from here (about 115 miles). That is exceptional, however. And You-know-who wasn't riding shotgun. On the other hand, on a bad Holiday weekend, it has taken me 8 hours to get to NYC. I don't know what your travel time frame is but if you do go to the Jersey shore, you could continue south to Cape May, NJ, take the Cape May -Lewes, Del. ferry, drop down to Ocean City MD, and then come across the DelMarVa peninsula to the Chesapeake Bay Bridge at Annapolis, and then on to Washington, DC. Has the family ever seen Washington? The Chesapeake Bay Bridge at Annapolis is not for the faint of heart, btw. It is a thin ribbon in space, high and spectacular--- I love it but it scares the bejesus out of my wife. Let me know if your itinerary brings you through SE CT. I am very close to I-95, but I am headed to Maryland the first weekend in August for a big car show for a different German vehicle. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D And a bunch of vehicles by a different German automaker Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:53:26 -0400 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Philly Message-ID: sig.11912021e9.2c35a40c-a360-484e-8644-73eb590a5...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii When I was a kid we drove to Philly. While on that trip I recall going to the beach and swimming in the ocean. Where might that have been? Thinking maybe going back that way. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
On Jul 29, 2011 8:30 AM, Kaleb wrote: Leaving dayton headed toward niagra. Just filled up 34.4 mpg. Now that's what I'm talking about Luther wrote: Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea well when you have kids you will understand Hah! With kids along, that _is_ the crack of dawn! It is truly amazing how much each kid can slow down the progress of any project. Except the making of a mess... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Philly
Michael Canfield wrote: If you are thinking about rte 80 across PA there are some seriously steep and long hills/mountains along that route so be sure the brakes are up to it. But what a great opportunity to do an Italian Tuneup! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
G Mann wrote: Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard copy book that you could look at? Ahh, the good old days. Funny thing... that book never crashed and I could carry it to the car and lay it on the fender while sorting out what went to what, even if the electricity went out. But what a pain to copy! And really tough to look at it from 15,000 miles away. And if the text I'm looking for is not in the index, searching for one word is a very, very, slow long process. We* are spoiled. We won't be happy with either the old or the new. They each have disadvantages and we will complain when using either one. *We meaning collectively us humans. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 rear seat removal
Gentlemen, How does the upper portion of the rear seat in a 124 sedan come out? This is on my '87 300D, just in case there's a difference between early and late. I got the bottom out just fine once I remembered that the little orange catches push in, not out or sideways, but I don't see any bolts or anything else obvious holding the top in (and I'm assuming it does come out fairly easily, to be reupholstered/repadded as needed). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show
For some reason I can't stop looking at that ghastly tarted-up W140 with the wing, ground effects, and huge AMG wheels. Looks like Carat Duchatelet got hold of it... I also was puzzled by the thing. It was brought by two Asian guys and I never figured out what the point was. Everyone was too polite to egg it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One music composer - was: GUMP is DEAD
In pure terms of innovation during a composer's time period, I would order (from greatest to least) them as such: Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Mozart. I think greatness should be evaluated mostly on how much new technique they foster that makes an impact for many years to come. Mozart's mature works aren't as obviously mature as they follow the same harmonic structure and normal Classical era form rules. It's hard to put him last based on the amount of music he wrote, but it's all similar Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Mozart. Beethoven Wagner are similar that they expanded and created grand works of a genre. Beethoven combined the choir with the symphony more than once (Fantasia for Piano, Chorus, and Orchestra, Op. 80... 9th Symphony) and Wagner used leit-motif in his opera's that expanded to 4 5 hours. Both have definite differences between young works and mature works. Bach, IMHO, has not been surpassed in his counterpoint (many composers have tried since and NONE have equaled even Bach's modest works, let alone his greatest: The Art of the Fugue) and his chromatic harmony. Bach was alive during the transition from Meantone to Equal temperment and had the luxury of an organ in his early years that was tuned Equally, allowing him to explore chromatic harmony that many composers didn't touch for over 100 years. Study his 150 Cantatas (as I did this summer) and you will find many chromatic chord progressions that boggle the mind. He also wrote a fugue based on his own name, using the notes B-A-C-H (in modern terms B=B-flat H=B-natural) that are 4 neighboring half-steps. L, Master of Music in progress... Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 7/28/2011 11:01 AM, Donald Snook wrote: astrasfogel wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. The greatest what? The greatest composer? The greatest composer in his style/era? The term classical music is confusing because Classical is a style or period or era. J.S. Bach and Beethoven are in different eras/styles. Bach is in the Baroque era/period, it's pretty difficult to compare them. It would be like asking who is the greatest Sports figure? When the question might be who is the greatest football player? It's pretty hard to compare a football player and a tennis player. Likewise, it is difficult to compare composers from different eras/periods. So, Bach is arguably the greatest of the Baroque period/style. And arguably, Beethoven the greatest of the Classical period. EXCEPT, ole Ludwig only wrote 9 symphonies. So, I think Mozart gets the nod. Some people would include Beethoven in the Romantic period, but I think that is incorrect because his symphonies followed most of the strict formalities of the classical periods. He might be a transition between the two. For me, the greatest of the Romantic period is Wagner. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show
..Get a bigger hammer Roger and tell us what magic you used on the near new C class to impress people. The problem I see is that if it is anything like last year, there will be people parking their precious things near trees. The horror, imagine if a bird flew over a shiny car andno I can't say it, just the thought of it drives me to declare that any future car shows must be conducted indoors. You're best off not to post pictures of the show, we would be horrified to see MB cars outdoors. What puzzles me is why these pictures make you so angry. Do they make you feel guilty because of the state of your vehicle? Although because of the poor quality of your posted photos, I couldn't be sure. Face it, a lot of people like to maintain their capital equipment which also can be a hobby. Now that I think about it, I doubt any of these machines are smoked in. This event is not a Concours but a social event with some minor awards. For example, there is a People's Choice award where all car owners and spectators vote by ballot on the car they liked best. At the 2009 show, the President told me later that my car was one vote short of winning that award (I never vote) which surprised me since it's always a Gullwing or similar that is chosen. It must be the color and the lack of dirt. I intend to post pictures of the 2011 show in two weeks but I'll forewarn you since I would hate to bring on one of your spells. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Or maybe he cracks the whip and Regina drives... :) Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 7/29/2011 9:42 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: How he texts and drive at the same time is truly phenomenal. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.netwrote: Yea well when you have kids you will understand Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Luther's Benzbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Crack of dawn my b*tt :) Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One music composer - was: GUMP is DEAD
Impressive! Who woulda thunk we had a music scholar in our midst among all the cartalk. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: In pure terms of innovation during a composer's time period, I would order (from greatest to least) them as such: Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Mozart. I think greatness should be evaluated mostly on how much new technique they foster that makes an impact for many years to come. Mozart's mature works aren't as obviously mature as they follow the same harmonic structure and normal Classical era form rules. It's hard to put him last based on the amount of music he wrote, but it's all similar Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Mozart. Beethoven Wagner are similar that they expanded and created grand works of a genre. Beethoven combined the choir with the symphony more than once (Fantasia for Piano, Chorus, and Orchestra, Op. 80... 9th Symphony) and Wagner used leit-motif in his opera's that expanded to 4 5 hours. Both have definite differences between young works and mature works. Bach, IMHO, has not been surpassed in his counterpoint (many composers have tried since and NONE have equaled even Bach's modest works, let alone his greatest: The Art of the Fugue) and his chromatic harmony. Bach was alive during the transition from Meantone to Equal temperment and had the luxury of an organ in his early years that was tuned Equally, allowing him to explore chromatic harmony that many composers didn't touch for over 100 years. Study his 150 Cantatas (as I did this summer) and you will find many chromatic chord progressions that boggle the mind. He also wrote a fugue based on his own name, using the notes B-A-C-H (in modern terms B=B-flat H=B-natural) that are 4 neighboring half-steps. L, Master of Music in progress... Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 7/28/2011 11:01 AM, Donald Snook wrote: astrasfogel wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. The greatest what? The greatest composer? The greatest composer in his style/era? The term classical music is confusing because Classical is a style or period or era. J.S. Bach and Beethoven are in different eras/styles. Bach is in the Baroque era/period, it's pretty difficult to compare them. It would be like asking who is the greatest Sports figure? When the question might be who is the greatest football player? It's pretty hard to compare a football player and a tennis player. Likewise, it is difficult to compare composers from different eras/periods. So, Bach is arguably the greatest of the Baroque period/style. And arguably, Beethoven the greatest of the Classical period. EXCEPT, ole Ludwig only wrote 9 symphonies. So, I think Mozart gets the nod. Some people would include Beethoven in the Romantic period, but I think that is incorrect because his symphonies followed most of the strict formalities of the classical periods. He might be a transition between the two. For me, the greatest of the Romantic period is Wagner. Donald H. Snook __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show and W140 with wing
On 29/07/2011 2:34 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: For some reason I can't stop looking at that ghastly tarted-up W140 with the wing, ground effects, and huge AMG wheels. Looks like Carat Duchatelet got hold of it... I also was puzzled by the thing. It was brought by two Asian guys and I never figured out what the point was. Everyone was too polite to egg it. RLE The simple answer is that their taste is different than yours. They are much younger (I am guessing) and Asian. Why should they think like we do? I say, more power to them. It helps to keep the auto hobby alive and moving forward. I see things all the time that I sort of like but would not wish to own. - Like the new Camaro and what is the other one - Dodge something or other. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trip update
Tappan Zee bridge you mean, the GW is right in the middle of the city... -Curt Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:04:13 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trip update Message-ID: CAC35L=vAPiEwJHuzifF=z-iurivkv_3m8cayszxz3b5awgz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why would you want to drive through the city? It's easier to bypass over the GW Bridge. But if you must seed the sights, the west side highway is a pretty swift way downtown. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Depends on time of day. From around 7-9 am and 3-6pm I have found traffic to be the worst in the city. I usually have little trouble with traffic on the major routes. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show 2010
Yep, I really do need to get mine washed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show 2010 I got this link to work: https://picasaweb.google.com/117530990844305295379/MBCASEATTLE2010CARS HOW#slideshow/5634224678813311794 There are some beautiful cars in there. I was surprised how much I didn't really care about the more modern cars. I liked the black 280SE convertible, the white 280SL and the brown SL with Pagoda top. Beautiful cars. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
My Dad conducted Traviata and Rigoletto as well as the Puccini staples, and as much as I love Tosca and Boheme I have come to appreciate Verdi more and more through the years. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers, it is common to feel that no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini. His lyricism and placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range. Mainly, no composer is as easy to sing, sounds challenging, AND writes memorable melody to the listener as Puccini. Puccini just sings Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 7/28/2011 1:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Mozart and Wagner, without exception. Puccini when it comes to opera. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Donald Snookdsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: astrasfogel wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. The greatest what? The greatest composer? The greatest composer in his style/era? The term classical music is confusing because Classical is a style or period or era. J.S. Bach and Beethoven are in different eras/styles. Bach is in the Baroque era/period, it's pretty difficult to compare them. It would be like asking who is the greatest Sports figure? When the question might be who is the greatest football player? It's pretty hard to compare a football player and a tennis player. Likewise, it is difficult to compare composers from different eras/periods. So, Bach is arguably the greatest of the Baroque period/style. And arguably, Beethoven the greatest of the Classical period. EXCEPT, ole Ludwig only wrote 9 symphonies. So, I think Mozart gets the nod. Some people would include Beethoven in the Romantic period, but I think that is incorrect because his symphonies followed most of the strict formalities of the classical periods. He might be a transition between the two. For me, the greatest of the Romantic period is Wagner. Donald H. Snook __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
Fmiser wrote: I don't like the long-legged gearing on my 85. The engine is running too slow at low highway speeds. (Best I can remember. The tach is still dead) The turbo isn't really working much at 55-60 mph. Rolf wrote: Thats because the optimal cruising speed for a 85 300d with 2.88 gearing is 74.5mph. What size tire? And I'm mighty curious how you arrived at that particular speed as the optimal. But kinda my point. And Mike was contemplating putting the tall gears in to improve fuel efficiency. And I was warning that it might not really help. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show and W140 with wing
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I see things all the time that I sort of like but would not wish to own. - Like the new Camaro and what is the other one - Dodge something or other. The Challenger? Nice driving car. It's got big pieces of W210 in it (transmission, suspension). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear seat removal
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:58 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Remove mounting screws beneath outer, lower corners of backrest and in center; lift upward. 'Just sent you a pdf showing this - job 91-170. Thanks Wilton! I was expecting screws or bolts in that area---must have not looked hard enough. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show and W140 with wing
On 29/07/2011 3:14 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I see things all the time that I sort of like but would not wish to own. - Like the new Camaro and what is the other one - Dodge something or other. The Challenger? Nice driving car. It's got big pieces of W210 in it (transmission, suspension). Alex Might well be a fine car but it does very little for me in the visual department. If I were going to buy a late model Chrysler product, I would get the 300. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show 2010
Wash the engine while you're at it. Concours judging points are (or used to be) 50 percent for the engine bay. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:10 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, I really do need to get mine washed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show 2010 I got this link to work: https://picasaweb.google.com/**117530990844305295379/** MBCASEATTLE2010CARShttps://picasaweb.google.com/117530990844305295379/MBCASEATTLE2010CARS HOW#slideshow/**5634224678813311794 There are some beautiful cars in there. I was surprised how much I didn't really care about the more modern cars. I liked the black 280SE convertible, the white 280SL and the brown SL with Pagoda top. Beautiful cars. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
Rolf wrote: Remember the more boost the more fuel is being burnt. Ideally you want 1500 rpm at speed. I am at 1500rpm at 55mph in my 87 300d with the 5 speed. Efficiency increases with boost. So fuel used to cover a distance can actually _decrease_. The efficiency curve turbo-supercharger equipped engine is not a simple curve. :) -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show 2010
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:15 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wash the engine while you're at it. Concours judging points are (or used to be) 50 percent for the engine bay. And Wilton doesn't have to worry about getting water into the ignition system on either of his cars! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show and W140 with wing
Alex Chamberlain wrote: The Challenger? Nice driving car. It's got big pieces of W210 in it (transmission, suspension). Spring perches? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show and W140 with wing
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: The Challenger? Nice driving car. It's got big pieces of W210 in it (transmission, suspension). Spring perches? Let's hope not! I've seen a few low-rider 300s, but I think those were intentional. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
Boost starts building at ~1800rpm, 1500rpm is where I am out of stall, ymmv on an automatic. More boost does mean you are burning more fuel automatically because of the ALDA on those cars equipped with them, the electronic IPs are a different beast altogether. Engine efficiency does not equal MPG as does optimal not equal minimal. I am pretty sure fuel is not increased on load as the bench tests dont involve load. Again on the mechanical IPs. If fuel did increase on load you would not have to move the pedal when you go up a hill. I could be totally wrong on this part, the OP mentioned that a heavy load ruined his axles, this is actually possible IMO, as it happened with me (atleast this is my theory). As your rear sags (in my case I lowered the car) the angle that the joints work at changes. Youve spent a hundred thousand miles at essentially one angle. Then bam, you've changed the angle, increased the load on the joint and the balls start tearing into new metal. Then the trip is over and suddenly you are back to the 100k wear mark but suddenly you have alot more area to move in. -Rolf On 07/29/2011 03:33 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Why 1500rpm? The turbo isn't kicking in at 1500 rpm... More boost doesn't equal more fuel being burnt automatically, the load on the engine plays into that. I don't know HOW but it does. The turbo makes the engine more efficient not less, if you're not into the turbo you're not making optimal efficiency which is where optimal fuel economy will come in. An OM601 IIRC has its peak torque somewhere around 2500rpm so with my '85 190D I used to endevor to keep it there. With the 5spd that was somewhere around 62mph in 5th. In later testing I realized it didn't make a whole lot of difference to my fuel economy what the speed of the engine was, it was more on the speed of the CAR. The sweet spot still seemed to be around 62mph, slower than that and I went stir crazy, faster and the fuel gauge dropped faster than I like. -Curt Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:56:07 -0400 From: Rolfr...@winmutt.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shafttoo... Message-ID:4e32f437.7080...@winmutt.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Remember the more boost the more fuel is being burnt. Ideally you want 1500 rpm at speed. I am at 1500rpm at 55mph in my 87 300d with the 5 speed. -Rolf On 07/28/2011 07:08 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: I was thinking the 85 gears would get me better fuel economy at highway speeds. Maybe at the cost of worse mileage overall if the turbo isn't spooled up enough at average travel speeds. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
This was in MB literature somewhere, referencing 75mph. I was being a bit more precise (anal? facetious? trolling?) as it would make sense that the car would be setup for 120kph. This would be with stock tires of course. -Rolf On 07/29/2011 04:09 PM, Fmiser wrote: Fmiser wrote: I don't like the long-legged gearing on my 85. The engine is running too slow at low highway speeds. (Best I can remember. The tach is still dead) The turbo isn't really working much at 55-60 mph. Rolf wrote: Thats because the optimal cruising speed for a 85 300d with 2.88 gearing is 74.5mph. What size tire? And I'm mighty curious how you arrived at that particular speed as the optimal. But kinda my point. And Mike was contemplating putting the tall gears in to improve fuel efficiency. And I was warning that it might not really help. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes Benz 300TD Wagon - $1950 (Germantown, NY)
Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:1987 Mercedes Benz 300TD Wagon - $1950 (Germantown, NY) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:41:18 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/2514758924.html to contact the person who posted this. 1987 Mercedes Benz 300TD Wagon Date: 2011-07-26, 5:06PM 1987 Mercedes Benz 300 TD (Diesel) Wagon with third row seat. Gray with gray interior. Good engine. Drives nice. Needs some electrical work (window switch, sunroof switch, heat blower). 253,000 miles on the odometer. Includes additional parts purchased to restore vehicle. Asking $ 1950.00 Please call (845) 222-6880 * Location: Germantown, NY * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/2514758924.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18zMDQ4MzA0OBBRxKs9PQdFdL0r41wGloLFM4oIPOjx2Vyq0M7q_4CwJTfLCTQlIPXqQCJV_xSpMw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!
My favorite operatic star is Sherrill Milnes. I have seen him in a number of Puccini works, and he just wails in every one. He is better known for his work in Verdi operas, however. Got to do a meet and greet with him at the Florentine Opera when we lived in Milwaukee, since we were patrons. Nice guy - I didn't know it until then that he was from Illinois! He is supposed to be a consultant for the opera here in Tampa, but I haven't seen him around for any of their performances. Probably just a gig to get him on the bill... Dan From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers, it is common to feel that no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini. His lyricism and placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range. Mainly, no composer is as easy to sing, sounds challenging, AND writes memorable melody to the listener as Puccini. Puccini just sings Luther KB5QHU Oak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show 2010
And I do wash them occasionally. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show 2010 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:15 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wash the engine while you're at it. Concours judging points are (or used to be) 50 percent for the engine bay. And Wilton doesn't have to worry about getting water into the ignition system on either of his cars! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!
You bu**ers are just too hi-falutin. I am more into Elvis, Roy Orbison, Garth Brooks, etc. Randy who drives the old Benz with cowboy boots on sometimes. On 29/07/2011 3:58 PM, LWB250 wrote: My favorite operatic star is Sherrill Milnes. I have seen him in a number of Puccini works, and he just wails in every one. He is better known for his work in Verdi operas, however. Got to do a meet and greet with him at the Florentine Opera when we lived in Milwaukee, since we were patrons. Nice guy - I didn't know it until then that he was from Illinois! He is supposed to be a consultant for the opera here in Tampa, but I haven't seen him around for any of their performances. Probably just a gig to get him on the bill... Dan From: Benz Hogsbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers, it is common to feel that no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini. His lyricism and placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range. Mainly, no composer is as easy to sing, sounds challenging, AND writes memorable melody to the listener as Puccini. Puccini just sings Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
Points well made and taken Philip. Having said that, when the chips are down, I'll open the case in the trunk, take out the hard copy Maint. manual and the Illustrated Parts Manual [even if it's out of date] and fix the problem at the side of the road or know why I can't. All the fancy electronic whiz bang devices are only a single solar flair from failure. Drop your beloved laptop or IPhone off the back of a truck and then drop the tattered hard copy manual off the same truck... pick them both up and use them. Which one survived? Copy??... try this, Buy a hard copy, remove the spine so it becomes loose leaf, punch the pages for a 5 hole binder and then remove the desired pages, make copies, replace the originals in the binder, take the copies to the car and do the work. Grease spots? no prob.. make new copies from the master... IPC pictures to look at while you are removing the problem assembly? No problem.. You will be amazed at how helpful it is when the assembly picture is in front of you in hard copy. Ok... so I give up call up the pages on your laptop after you fight MBZ system that doesn't work print the pages and use them. we'll call it a win. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: G Mann wrote: Anyone remember the good old days when you actually had a hard copy book that you could look at? Ahh, the good old days. Funny thing... that book never crashed and I could carry it to the car and lay it on the fender while sorting out what went to what, even if the electricity went out. But what a pain to copy! And really tough to look at it from 15,000 miles away. And if the text I'm looking for is not in the index, searching for one word is a very, very, slow long process. We* are spoiled. We won't be happy with either the old or the new. They each have disadvantages and we will complain when using either one. *We meaning collectively us humans. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show
...And Wilton doesn't have to worry about getting water into the ignition system on either of his cars!.. Nor do I. Both cars get their engines washed at the coin-op car wash whenever required. The MB gets it next week before I complete the polish and waxing ritual. I detest a dirty engine. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...And Wilton doesn't have to worry about getting water into the ignition system on either of his cars!.. Nor do I. You don't? I have always been wary of washing car engines with water under any significant pressure. I seem to remember that BMW at some point in the late '80s or '90s issued a service bulletin that strongly recommended against engine washing because of the potential for water being forced into connectors, sealed electronic modules, etc. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More car pix
I'm on the Griot's Garage mailing list and here's something that came today. A page of thumbnails of a wide variety of cars. They also invite all the local car clubs to their headquarters building on an ongoing basis (one club at a time) which has paid off big-time in sales. The monthly mailing of 2000 catalogs doesn't hurt much either. http://www.flickr.com/photos/griots/sets/72157625087397341/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA car show
Alex Chamberlain wrote: You don't? I have always been wary of washing car engines with water under any significant pressure. I seem to remember that BMW at some point in the late '80s or '90s issued a service bulletin that strongly recommended against engine washing because of the potential for water being forced into connectors, sealed electronic modules, etc. I killed a few relays doing weekly underhood washings of a Chrysler product. Unlike my similar vintage MBZ, it did not have the relays in a covered box. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For Kaleb: Routes around NYC
Driving through the heart of NYC is an experience you should not miss --- On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: If we do go that way going to head down thru Philly and dc maybe Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Angelo Giaimo michaelangel...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, Depending where you're coming from, (Maine?) You may want to hook up with I-84, shoot across CT into NY, across the hudson river and pick up the NYS Thruway to I-287, where you can get several westbound Interstates (I-80 and I-78). You can avoid the I-95 traffic headed to NYC, and the city itself, if you want to. Wanna go to the Jersey Shore, stay on I-287 and pick the the Garden State Parkway. Exit 100 is Ocean Grove (my favorite) and Asbury Park. Just south of there, you can pick up I-195 and head back to the Jersey Turnpike (I-95) towards Philly or wherever else you want to go. Just some suggestions. Drive Safely... Angelo Giaimo ___ -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
G Mann wrote: Points well made and taken Philip. Having said that, when the chips are down, I'll open the case in the trunk, take out the hard copy Maint. manual and the Illustrated Parts Manual [even if it's out of date] and fix the problem at the side of the road or know why I can't. Oh, I don't think the paper manual is bad - just that I am now unhappy with both paper and electronic! Historically I have preferred paper manuals. But I have come to really like the advantages of the PDFs. *sigh* I don't like PDFs, I don't like paper. Copy??... try this, Buy a hard copy, remove the spine so it becomes loose leaf, punch the pages for a 5 hole binder and then remove the desired pages, make copies, replace the originals in the binder, Hehe. And how will you make that copy without the help of electronics? Electronically, I have a _complete_ copy on CD to use in other computers, a copy on the laptop, a copy on the desktop, and I can email you a page with my notes on it. :) Ok... so I give up call up the pages on your laptop after you fight MBZ system that doesn't work print the pages and use them. we'll call it a win. Well, I don't use the silly MB interface. I wonder if I could make an iPad/iPhone/Android app that would have the full manual and interface -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!
M, yes, good old fashioned free singing. nbsp;Great voice to boot :) nbsp;My man-love goes out to Samuel Ramey and Thomas Hampson. nbsp;Ramey teaches here in Chicago and I listened in on his master class back in the spring. nbsp;Have his autograph from (on my No Tenors Allowed cd) from a 2000/01 concert in Omaha. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 3:58 PM, LWB250 lt;lwb...@yahoo.comgt; wrote: My favorite operatic star is Sherrill Milnes. I have seen him in a number of Puccini works, and he just wails in every one. He is better known for his work in Verdi operas, however. Got to do a meet and greet with him at the Florentine Opera when we lived in Milwaukee, since we were patrons. nbsp;Nice guy - I didn't know it until then that he was from Illinois! He is supposed to be a consultant for the opera here in Tampa, but I haven't seen him around for any of their performances. Probably just a gig to get him on the bill... Dan From: Benz Hogs lt;benz-n-h...@gulseth.netgt; To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD AAAHH, Puccini.nbsp; Among opera singers, it is common to feel that no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini.nbsp; His lyricism and placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range.nbsp; Mainly, no composer is as easy to sing, sounds challenging, AND writes memorable melody to the listener as Puccini. Puccini just sings nbsp; Luthernbsp; KB5QHUnbsp; nbsp; Oak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!
Metallica Black is some of my favorite driving music. nbsp;Opera sucks as driving music, too much dynamic change... Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 4:33 PM, Randy Bennell lt;rbenn...@bennell.cagt; wrote: You bu**ers are just too hi-falutin. I am more into Elvis, Roy Orbison, Garth Brooks, etc. Randy who drives the old Benz with cowboy boots on sometimes. On 29/07/2011 3:58 PM, LWB250 wrote: gt; My favorite operatic star is Sherrill Milnes. I have seen him in a number of Puccini works, and he just wails in every one. He is better known for his work in Verdi operas, however. gt; gt; Got to do a meet and greet with him at the Florentine Opera when we lived in Milwaukee, since we were patrons. Nice guy - I didn't know it until then that he was from Illinois! gt; gt; He is supposed to be a consultant for the opera here in Tampa, but I haven't seen him around for any of their performances. Probably just a gig to get him on the bill... gt; gt; Dan gt; gt; gt; gt; From: Benz Hogslt;benz-n-h...@gulseth.netgt; gt; To: Mercedes Discussion Listlt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; gt; Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD gt; gt; AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers, it is common to feel that gt; no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini. His lyricism and gt; placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range. Mainly, gt; no composer is as easy to sing, sounds challenging, AND writes memorable gt; melody to the listener as Puccini. gt; gt; Puccini just sings gt; gt;Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL gt; '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) gt; '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) gt; ___ gt; http://www.okiebenz.com gt; For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com gt; To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ gt; gt; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: gt; http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!
Absolutely. Both opera and classical are best heard at home. Yesterday it was Rush Signals. Dan From: Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera! Metallica Black is some of my favorite driving music. nbsp;Opera sucks as driving music, too much dynamic change... Luther -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 29, 2011 4:33 PM, Randy Bennell lt;rbenn...@bennell.cagt; wrote: You bu**ers are just too hi-falutin. I am more into Elvis, Roy Orbison, Garth Brooks, etc. Randy who drives the old Benz with cowboy boots on sometimes. On 29/07/2011 3:58 PM, LWB250 wrote: gt; My favorite operatic star is Sherrill Milnes. I have seen him in a number of Puccini works, and he just wails in every one. He is better known for his work in Verdi operas, however. gt; gt; Got to do a meet and greet with him at the Florentine Opera when we lived in Milwaukee, since we were patrons. Nice guy - I didn't know it until then that he was from Illinois! gt; gt; He is supposed to be a consultant for the opera here in Tampa, but I haven't seen him around for any of their performances. Probably just a gig to get him on the bill... gt; gt; Dan gt; gt; gt; gt; From: Benz Hogslt;benz-n-h...@gulseth.netgt; gt; To: Mercedes Discussion Listlt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; gt; Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD gt; gt; AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers, it is common to feel that gt; no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini. His lyricism and gt; placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range. Mainly, gt; no composer is as easy to sing, sounds challenging, AND writes memorable gt; melody to the listener as Puccini. gt; gt; Puccini just sings gt; gt; Luther KB5QHU Oak Park, IL gt; '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) gt; '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) gt; ___ gt; http://www.okiebenz.com gt; For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com gt; To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ gt; gt; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: gt; http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
Have you done any actual testing to prove this theory? Its just that your suggestions go against everything I've ever read about diesel theory and my own results. Unfortunately I don't have any results involving a turbo so my ideas are totally based on NA engines but I do have a good feel (150,000+ documented miles) for how the NA engines perform in 190Ds and 240Ds. -Curt Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:26:44 -0400 From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shafttoo... Message-ID: 4e331784.4070...@winmutt.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Boost starts building at ~1800rpm, 1500rpm is where I am out of stall, ymmv on an automatic. More boost does mean you are burning more fuel automatically because of the ALDA on those cars equipped with them, the electronic IPs are a different beast altogether. Engine efficiency does not equal MPG as does optimal not equal minimal. I am pretty sure fuel is not increased on load as the bench tests dont involve load. Again on the mechanical IPs. If fuel did increase on load you would not have to move the pedal when you go up a hill. I could be totally wrong on this part, the OP mentioned that a heavy load ruined his axles, this is actually possible IMO, as it happened with me (atleast this is my theory). As your rear sags (in my case I lowered the car) the angle that the joints work at changes. Youve spent a hundred thousand miles at essentially one angle. Then bam, you've changed the angle, increased the load on the joint and the balls start tearing into new metal. Then the trip is over and suddenly you are back to the 100k wear mark but suddenly you have alot more area to move in. -Rolf On 07/29/2011 03:33 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Why 1500rpm? The turbo isn't kicking in at 1500 rpm... More boost doesn't equal more fuel being burnt automatically, the load on the engine plays into that. I don't know HOW but it does. The turbo makes the engine more efficient not less, if you're not into the turbo you're not making optimal efficiency which is where optimal fuel economy will come in. An OM601 IIRC has its peak torque somewhere around 2500rpm so with my '85 190D I used to endevor to keep it there. With the 5spd that was somewhere around 62mph in 5th. In later testing I realized it didn't make a whole lot of difference to my fuel economy what the speed of the engine was, it was more on the speed of the CAR. The sweet spot still seemed to be around 62mph, slower than that and I went stir crazy, faster and the fuel gauge dropped faster than I like. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?
There you go... progress in a box plus a business opportunity. Grant... I wonder if I could make an iPad/iPhone/Android app that would have the full manual and interface -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv, shaft too...
Doesn't a manual boost controller just take the place of the waste gate? If so then I would still have just the 5-6 lbs at 55-60. The boost only goes higher then that when I really push the peddle down to accelerate fast and it will go up fast and then stop right at 9lbs. It doesn't matter if I am going 45 or 60 when I nail it the boost pops up and then stops at 9. When I let off to go to cruise the boost comes down just as fast to whatever the steady state pressure is for that speed. I can see where a manual boost controller will allow the boost to go higher at the top end but don't really see it increasing the boost at 5-6lbs. I don't think the spring is that weak that it would be letting exhaust by at that low a pressure, especially in the one that has just been rebuilt. From what I have read in a lot of different places 9lbs seems to be the most reported top pressure in unmodified turbos. I have been thinking of turning the spring adjustment to try and raise the top boost but haven't had the time to remove and dissect one of the turbos and do that. When I get to that I will let everyone know what I found out. Right now I just took time out to pull all the trim off the 300D and get the worst dents taken out and repainted. Looks quite nice but I wish I hadn't done it. Now I worry all the time about someone banging into it with their door. I've taken to parking farther away and walking a bit. May get over that in a while or I may just sell it so I don't have to worry about it any more. Manfred Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:28:41 -0400 From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv, shaft too... Message-ID: 4e32edc9.9090...@winmutt.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Proper boost is 11psi. Youd be surprised how much of a diff 2-3 psi makes. You might be able to increase cruising boost by using a manual boost controller. The waste gate will start opening as it approaches max psi, making for more of a curve, with the mbc you get a straight ride up and then a direct fall off. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Composers
Luther wrote: n pure terms of innovation during a composer's time period, I would order (from greatest to least) them as such: Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Mozart. I think greatness should be evaluated mostly on how much new technique they foster that makes an impact for many years to come. Mozart's mature works aren't as obviously mature as they follow the same harmonic structure and normal Classical era form rules. It's hard to put him last based on the amount of music he wrote, but it's all similar Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Mozart. Beethoven Wagner are similar that they expanded and created grand works of a genre. Beethoven combined the choir with the symphony more than once (Fantasia for Piano, Chorus, and Orchestra, Op. 80... 9th Symphony) and Wagner used leit-motif in his opera's that expanded to 4 5 hours. Both have definite differences between young works and mature works. Bach, IMHO, has not been surpassed in his counterpoint (many composers have tried since and NONE have equaled even Bach's modest works, let alone his greatest: The Art of the Fugue) and his chromatic harmony. Bach was alive during the transition from Meantone to Equal temperment and had the luxury of an organ in his early years that was tuned Equally, allowing him to explore chromatic harmony that many composers didn't touch for over 100 years. Study his 150 Cantatas (as I did this summer) and you will find many chromatic chord progressions that boggle the mind. He also wrote a fugue based on his own name, using the notes B-A-C-H (in modern terms B=B-flat H=B-natural) that are 4 neighboring half-steps. Well said. Bach is certainly the most innovative and his genius is hard to argue with. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv, shaft too...
11 psi is the max for a 617, but 14 psi is normal for a 603. You will get a bit more power at 11 than at 9 on a 617, but you will get greatly accelerated engine wear above 11. Note that the intake pressure and fuel delivery are related but not by a fixed amount. The governor will reduce the fuel even at high pressure if the engine speed is correct, although if you are not at high load, this will also reduce the pressure, but not in a linear way. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear seat removal
Three 10mm bolts along bottom, then lift up to get it off the hooks along top. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen, How does the upper portion of the rear seat in a 124 sedan come out? This is on my '87 300D, just in case there's a difference between early and late. I got the bottom out just fine once I remembered that the little orange catches push in, not out or sideways, but I don't see any bolts or anything else obvious holding the top in (and I'm assuming it does come out fairly easily, to be reupholstered/repadded as needed). Alex _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Composers
And Bach kicks some serious butt when jamming on the pipe organ. 'Nuf said. Deutsche Grammophon Dan From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 8:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] Composers Well said. Bach is certainly the most innovative and his genius is hard to argue with. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Composers
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:12:37 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: And Bach kicks some serious butt when jamming on the pipe organ. 'Nuf said. Now that I will most certainly agree with! My favorite music! Craig Who has taken organ lessons, but hasn't had opportunity lately to pull the stops and push the pedals. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show stopper
Well I guess I am not that much of a car nut, a bit of dirt on the family workhorse does not bother me, things not working does bother me. So what if my wheels are not shiny, if people want to judge me on the condition of my rims then I don't really want to know them. The pictures don't make me angry at all, if people get joy out of spending their weekend polishing a car then good luck to em, my weekends are taken up with maintenance (of 8+ pieces of equipment), home repair/improvements, doing the bookwork for the business, social events and spending time with the kids. Perhaps one day I will catch up with all the things I NEED to do and then I can do things that are superfluous, such as making the family truck wheels shiny. Yeah I suppose I need a better camera to impress people with the quality of my photos but there again I don't really care if they are not up to someone else's standard. I don't want to stereotype but I would think that most of the people who display their cars do not use them as everyday transport, don't let their kids (if they have any) anywhere near them and the local shopping center car park is a definite must avoid. If I had the time, money or space for a fancy model Merc then I would agree that I have somewhat of a responsibility to maintain that vehicle to a high standard but a common 300TE with crappy paint is not something I am going to get all weird about. Funny thing is that a 22 year old car can do the same job as a brand new car but I am not stressed if it gets another scratch, to add to the 100's it has acquired in it's 22 years of service and the thing is that if I maintain it, it may give another 22 years of service or until it is banned by the government. And Roger, if you're car was one vote short of winning, doesn't that mean it drew for 1st place? Although I do agree with you in the regard that a near new MB which has had a professional detail done, is not deserving to win a show, an old MB which was restored by the owner back to a concourse standard is deserving. I'll be sure to stock up on my medicine, which comes in cans or bottles, so I can view your quality pictures without dropping a valve. BTW there where some nice cars at the show and thank you for the close up shots of all those nice and clean wheels, almost makes me want to clean mine.almost, have to keep working on a couple of retaining walls, which will need cleaning once finished. I would post pictures of the walls, once finished, but am afraid my camera is not up to the job. Hendrik who really likes that pontoon but would settle for the 240D relng...@aol.com wrote: ..Get a bigger hammer Roger and tell us what magic you used on the near new C class to impress people. The problem I see is that if it is anything like last year, there will be people parking their precious things near trees. The horror, imagine if a bird flew over a shiny car andno I can't say it, just the thought of it drives me to declare that any future car shows must be conducted indoors. You're best off not to post pictures of the show, we would be horrified to see MB cars outdoors. What puzzles me is why these pictures make you so angry. Do they make you feel guilty because of the state of your vehicle? Although because of the poor quality of your posted photos, I couldn't be sure. Face it, a lot of people like to maintain their capital equipment which also can be a hobby. Now that I think about it, I doubt any of these machines are smoked in. This event is not a Concours but a social event with some minor awards. For example, there is a People's Choice award where all car owners and spectators vote by ballot on the car they liked best. At the 2009 show, the President told me later that my car was one vote short of winning that award (I never vote) which surprised me since it's always a Gullwing or similar that is chosen. It must be the color and the lack of dirt. I intend to post pictures of the 2011 show in two weeks but I'll forewarn you since I would hate to bring on one of your spells. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Text formating - was: GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!
Luther's Benz wrote: nbsp; nbsp; nbsp; nbsp; -- Sent from my Palm Pre I have never used a Palm Pre. Is the email client smart enough to be set to plain text rather than HTML mail? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No major rust issues with the MB beetle
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1934-130-H-Cabrio-Limousine-/300581561303?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item45fc0ea3d7#ht_7858wt_958 Just a bit of paint, polish of the wheels and it would be ready for Rogers inspection. Hendrik who is off to mix a bit of mortar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bearing kit and special tool? Now chaning a cv shaft too...
Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Boost starts building at ~1800rpm, 1500rpm is where I am out of stall, ymmv on an automatic. More boost does mean you are burning more fuel automatically because of the ALDA on those cars equipped with them, the electronic IPs are a different beast altogether. Engine efficiency does not equal MPG as does optimal not equal minimal. Curt Raymond wrote: Have you done any actual testing to prove this theory? Its just that your suggestions go against everything I've ever read about diesel theory and my own results. Unfortunately I don't have any results involving a turbo so my ideas are totally based on NA engines but I do have a good feel (150,000 + documented miles) for how the NA engines perform in 190Ds and 240Ds. At a give RPM and a given fuel rack position on an engine with an ALDA adding boost will increase the fuel used. But that's not how most of us drive because we don't directly care what the power output is, we regulate the RPM against the load by changing the fuel used. With the turbo contributing generously, more heat energy from the fuel is turned into torque. So if you were to compare the fuel rack position on an engines with a matching load and RPM once with turbo and once without the non-turbo run would have the rack delivering more fuel. The ALDA would notice the lack of boost and decrease the fuel delivered. Still, the amount of fuel required by the non-turbo run would be more than the turbo despite the ALDA allowing more fuel. That's because the turbo increases efficiency, the fuel needed to maintain RPM at that load will be _less_ with the turbo because less heat is wasted. Add to the confusion the torque curve, the efficiency curve, air resistance curve, etc and it's pretty complex to try to calculate. However, efficiency _does_ equal MPG. The problem is trying to get the dozen other factors to match so apples are compared to apples. -- Philip, with some spreadsheets to help with the calculating ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Niagra
Just got done watching the fireworks. Did the boat thing earlier. Staying in a way overpriced super 8 up the street. E300 still not broke down but when I get home I need to replace the rear shocks. I think I got a weak one Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!
Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kaOYC_Fww Anna Netrebko has brought more new listeners to classical music than anyone in a long time. Classical music can be fun. Gerry --- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca You bu**ers are just too hi-falutin. I am more into Elvis, Roy Orbison, Garth Brooks, etc. Randy who drives the old Benz with cowboy boots on sometimes. On 29/07/2011 3:58 PM, LWB250 wrote: My favorite operatic star is Sherrill Milnes. I have seen him in a number of Puccini works, and he just wails in every one. He is better known for his work in Verdi operas, however. Got to do a meet and greet with him at the Florentine Opera when we lived in Milwaukee, since we were patrons. Nice guy - I didn't know it until then that he was from Illinois! He is supposed to be a consultant for the opera here in Tampa, but I haven't seen him around for any of their performances. Probably just a gig to get him on the bill... Dan From: Benz Hogsbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers, it is common to feel that no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini. His lyricism and placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range. Mainly, no composer is as easy to sing, sounds challenging, AND writes memorable melody to the listener as Puccini. Puccini just sings Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3797 - Release Date: 07/29/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
