[MBZ] Vacuum pump. Was: First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Gerry Archer

Mine also came with oil.
Used it ten or twelve times so far with no problem.  It
also does an oil change much faster than a shopvac.
The motor on a shopvac seems to get quite hot when doing
oil changes.  (Too hot?)
Autozone tools have been OK so far.  (Sears is a long drive.)
Gerry
'83 300D
'83 240D

From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu



Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes:


A friend of mine bought an AC vacuum pump from them, then spent the
rest of the day looking for the oil for it.  Nice pump, but no vacuum
pump oil in the store, no sign that it was necessary, the whole thing
was a pain.


I also bought an AC vacuum pump from them a year or two ago.  Mine did
come with oil.  It's worked well for me so far, though I only use it on
my own cars, maybe a couple of times a year tops.  In a shop environment
where it would see frequent use it may not be a good choice.

I have never tried their hand tools, though.  I'm hoping they are at
least a step above Wal-Mart tools, but if they are not at least it's not
a lot of money ventured.  I'm guessing for moderate-to-low torque
applications they will be fine for my purposes.

Allan
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1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Brian Toscano wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Hand_Tools


In 1985 SK became part of Facom Tools.

So that's why I started noticing warranty trouble in the spring of 1986.
Just minor stuff, the girl at the hardware store, instead of handing me a new 
tool, spent ten minutes looking the tool up in her warranty book and inspecting 
it for 'signs of abuse which would negate warranty' before handing me a new 
tool. I said 'my warranty paperwork from ten years ago says 'unconditional 
lifetime warranty', she said 'if I don't go by the new book we won't be 
reimbursed' and I said 'so long, S-K'.


I have bought a S-K flare nut wrench since then, after paying too much at a 
FLAPS for a 'Made in USA' Cal-Van that never would have passed Harbor Freight's 
quality control. Charging S-K level prices for tools that are uglier than 
Craftsman on the outside is one thing, when the tool is too ugly to use on the 
surfaces that grab the fastener, it's unacceptable, so Cal-Van earned a spot on 
my 'avoid for life' list over 20 years ago over that little $11 line wrench.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] sun roof lid

2011-09-19 Thread MG
Anyone have a good sunroof lid assembly for an 83 300TD? This is 
the manual type. It seems the one on my 83 has a bit of a rust 
problem at a couple of points so I figure that before I get it 
painted I will put a good one in there. I'm sure that Mercedes 
will want a pretty penny for all that track and linkage stuff if 
it is even available. also looking for the flat rails that mount 
on the roof for the luggage to rest on as well as the two movable 
cross rails.


Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will come with a 
new 
steel key.  


 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 1:20:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

 Max wrote:

 Did you break an original steel key or a copy?


A copy. The ignition cylinder has been changed, so one key is needed for the 
doors and another key is needed for the ignition. I will be calling Rusty in 
the 
morning for locks. Hopefully, I can get the vacuum system sorted and the trunk 
open tomorrow. 


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble
Max wrote:
 If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will come with a 
 new 
 steel key.  

Yup. That is what I hope for. Perhaps I can get the valet key also. But first I 
must get the trunk lid open...

Rick
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[MBZ] fixed a fuel leak

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
Dieselvolk,

You may remember that my '95 E300 had begun to use more fuel per mile.  I tried 
changing the fuel filters, but that did not help (as I suspected).

A couple weeks ago, just once I could faintly smell diesel at the front of the 
car after it had been driven, but didn't have time to investigate further (and 
I 
really wasn't looking forward to pulling off the intake manifold).  Yesterday 
it 
really started to reek of diesel fuel, so I pulled off the cross-over intake 
pipe and the plastic cover over the injectors and return lines.  Nothing.  
Finally found a wet spot under the intake manifold (which was still in place) 
at 
the fuel pre-heater assembly.  Fuel is supplied from the lift pump, heated, 
then 
to the pre-filter.  Supply line from the lift pump is held by a hose clamp, and 
it was loose; apparently I failed to tighten that up last year when I replaced 
the injection pump timer and vacuum pump and engine wiring harness (and all the 
associated plastic clips and gaskets).

Using a long regular screwdriver I rotated the clamp so I could tighten with a 
second screwdriver without removing the intake manifold.  I love cheap fixes, 
but hate it when they're self-inflicted!

While I was there I took a look at the EGR and associated workings.  On this 
car there is a butterfly valve just before the EGR which operates in concert to 
restrict clean intake air so that exhaust gas flow from the EGR is increased 
when called for.  I wired the butterfly valve in the full open position, then 
plugged the hose for the EGR.  Later I'll fashion a blocking plate.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 295k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] fixed a fuel leak

2011-09-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Max Dillon wrote:

While I was there I took a look at the EGR and associated workings.  On this 
car there is a butterfly valve just before the EGR which operates in concert to 
restrict clean intake air so that exhaust gas flow from the EGR is increased 
when called for.  I wired the butterfly valve in the full open position, then 
plugged the hose for the EGR.  Later I'll fashion a blocking plate.




Doing that to a 90s vintage turbo would put the car in limp mode. I'm not sure 
what, if anything, it would do to a NA OM606.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] OM606 EGR (was fixed a fuel leak)

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
Not an issue on this car, a small blessing; drove to work this a.m. just fine.  
I have an app on my Android, RaceDroid, which provides a horse-power graph as 
well as other data from a 0-60 run.  Someday when I have time and an open road, 
I'll gather some data, then re-enable the EGR and gather more data to see if 
there is any change.  I expect to see a small gain in HP with the EGR disabled.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 8:23:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] fixed a fuel leak

Max Dillon wrote:

 While I was there I took a look at the EGR and associated workings.  On 
 this 
car there is a butterfly valve just before the EGR which operates in concert 
to 
restrict clean intake air so that exhaust gas flow from the EGR is increased 
when called for.  I wired the butterfly valve in the full open position, then 
plugged the hose for the EGR.  Later I'll fashion a blocking plate.
 

Doing that to a 90s vintage turbo would put the car in limp mode. I'm not sure 
what, if anything, it would do to a NA OM606.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 190d update

2011-09-19 Thread Rich Thomas

As well you should be!  That is very cool.

--R

On 9/18/11 11:51 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

I am proud of him.
http://www.journalism.columbia.edu/news/253


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless internet extension antenna

2011-09-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Would an old sat TV dish basically do the same thing if you stuck the 
transmit/receive antenna where the LNB goes?


--R

On 9/19/11 12:09 AM, Craig wrote:

A week or so ago, there was talk about using wireless computer
connections at distances. Today in my email I got a notice of a special
for a 2.4 GHz antenna:

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch.asp?px=MPscriteria=AA97959

Premiertek ANT-GRID-24dBi Outdoor 2.4GHz 24dBi Directional High-Gain
N-Type Female Aluminum Die Cast Grid Antenna

   Reg. Price:  $84.99
Instant Discount:   $41.50
   Sale Price:  $43.49


In case anyone is interested


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 190d update

2011-09-19 Thread Gerry Archer

On 9/18/11 11:51 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

I am proud of him.
http://www.journalism.columbia.edu/news/253

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Congratulations to both your son and yourself, Hans.
He did a great job and you did a great job raising him.
Gerry
'83 300D
'83 240D

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless internet extension antenna

2011-09-19 Thread Dan Penoff
More or less.

Not a lot of difference with the cantenna design using a Pringles or coffee 
can.

Simple to construct and amazingly efficient if you follow the directions.

Dan

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On Sep 19, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 Would an old sat TV dish basically do the same thing if you stuck the 
 transmit/receive antenna where the LNB goes?
 
 --R
 
 On 9/19/11 12:09 AM, Craig wrote:
 A week or so ago, there was talk about using wireless computer
 connections at distances. Today in my email I got a notice of a special
 for a 2.4 GHz antenna:
 
 http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch.asp?px=MPscriteria=AA97959
 
 Premiertek ANT-GRID-24dBi Outdoor 2.4GHz 24dBi Directional High-Gain
 N-Type Female Aluminum Die Cast Grid Antenna
 
   Reg. Price:$84.99
 Instant Discount:$41.50
   Sale Price:  $43.49
 
 
 In case anyone is interested
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless internet extension antenna

2011-09-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:
Would an old sat TV dish basically do the same thing if you stuck the 
transmit/receive antenna where the LNB goes?


http://www.skifactz.com/wifi/wifi_dish.htm

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Re: [MBZ] 190d update

2011-09-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Congrats, Hans!

Do you get to put it on your fireplace mantel for bragging rights?

Dan 

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On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote:

 Never had that privilege.
 Asked #1 to help me.
 Called for a Phillips from underneath the car and got What's that?
 I didn't get arrested.
 
 I am proud of him.
 http://www.journalism.columbia.edu/news/253
 On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd give 'im the Mercedes, but he'd have to be working on it.
 
 #1 son worked with me side by side to transform his 200D into a 200D 2.4.
 I was (and still am) proud of him.
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Re: [MBZ] sun roof lid

2011-09-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have the sliding plate (attaches to handle).

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:52 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Anyone have a good sunroof lid assembly for an 83 300TD? This is the manual
 type. It seems the one on my 83 has a bit of a rust problem at a couple of
 points so I figure that before I get it painted I will put a good one in
 there. I'm sure that Mercedes will want a pretty penny for all that track
 and linkage stuff if it is even available. also looking for the flat rails
 that mount on the roof for the luggage to rest on as well as the two movable
 cross rails.

 Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
I was wrong, owner's manual for a 123 says horizontal is normal position which 
locks/unlocks with CLS.  This is opposite from my '95 E300 (124).

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 12:34:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

I think that when the trunk key slot has been turned horizontal, it is locked 
such that the vacuum lock is over-ridden, so that the valet key will open doors 
and operate the ignition but won't open the trunk.

Max
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Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:


I have a 1985 w123 sedan that SWMBO has been driving lately. She has been 
complaining 

about the trunk not opening right, so tonight I went out to take a look. The 
central locking 

system has not worked since I purchased the car (door locks, anyway). 

The trunk would not open, and the key slot was horizontal. I stuck the key in 
and managed to break it off.
Nothing like being a ham-fisted mechanic. I got the piece of key out, while 
mangling the pushbutton, so now it is 

time to order one of those.

Anyway my question is, how do I get in the trunk? I have the service manual 
CD's, but I haven't found the 

central locking system vacuum diagram.

Autorun doesn't work too well in Linux :(   Any tips for viewing the 
CD-ROM's in Linux?

Thanks,

Rick Knoble
1985 300CD
1987 190DT x2
1985 300D

  

  
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Re: [MBZ] sun roof lid

2011-09-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Do to damage during transport I had to replace the sunroof skin on my 300SD. A 
new skin wasn't that expensive, maybe $150 if that much from the dealer.

I suspect the W123 equivalent would be cheaper. And the dealer had it the next 
day.

Swapping the parts over was not a big deal, either.

Dan

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On Sep 19, 2011, at 9:03 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the sliding plate (attaches to handle).
 
 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:52 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Anyone have a good sunroof lid assembly for an 83 300TD? This is the manual
 type. It seems the one on my 83 has a bit of a rust problem at a couple of
 points so I figure that before I get it painted I will put a good one in
 there. I'm sure that Mercedes will want a pretty penny for all that track
 and linkage stuff if it is even available. also looking for the flat rails
 that mount on the roof for the luggage to rest on as well as the two movable
 cross rails.
 
 Manfred
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Stereo stuff

2011-09-19 Thread Dan Penoff
My motivation for going the FLAC route is to get uncompressed files. After 
listening to compressed versus uncompressed I am convinced I can tell a 
difference (FLAC vs. MP3, fir example.)

As for speaker impedance, the Magnepans are rated at 5 ohms, and The Fisher has 
taps for 4 and 8 ohms, so I will run it at 4 ohms and see how things go.

Dan

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On Sep 18, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 LWB250 wrote:
 
 Right now I am busy replacing all of my low bit rate
 compressed music with FLACs, bringing the uncompressed
 bitrates up around 2000 kbps or more.
 
   With ncompressed, bitrate is a meaningless number.  Unless
 you are looking at disk space.  
 
 Flac also supports Replay Gain, and the tags can include almost
 anything.  When I rip vinyl LPs, I make the entire disk one
 flac file, use Audacity and a marker track to mark the beginning
 of each track, export the marker track as text to create a cue
 file.  This cue file can be used to burn a CD or to make a
 separate file for each track, encoding in flac, ogg, or I
 suppose even MP3.  This cue file, an photo of the front and back
 cover, and the audio all go into the master flac file.
 
 Thus I have one file that is a full archive of the LP.
 
 I haven't done very many yet...
 
 I have some concerns about my Fisher 400c being powerful
 enough to drive the Magnepan speakers I have.  It does drive
 them, but I am not in an environment where I can set them up
 properly nor drive them to higher sound levels.  Hopefully in
 the near future I'll be able to do this
 
 Check the impedance.  I don't know anything about that vintage
 Fisher (mine is older), but the Magnepan speakers have a
 reputation of very low dips in the impedance.  These could cause
 grief with your amp.
 
 Mark Levinson made a nice amp at about that time, as I recall.
 
 --Philip
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Strange, 201 (at least early ones) works the same as 123. I guess when they 
changed the naming scheme they figured they'd take everything sideways ;)

-Curt

Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:04:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock
Message-ID:
1316437457.51819.yahoomai...@web180007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I was wrong, owner's manual for a 123 says horizontal is normal position which
locks/unlocks with CLS.  This is opposite from my '95 E300 (124).

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain 
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the PNW the full S-K line of hand tools is available at a chain
 called Baxter's Auto Parts, but I have no idea how widespread they
 are.

Here you can find Armstrong tools at Fastenal outlets.  I've not been there 
myself, but one just opened in town and I've been meaning to check it out.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Streib
The trunk can be locked with the key, overriding the vacuum system.  I
don't recall whether this is horizontal or vertical but I think it's
horizontal.  In that case you are going to have to unlock it, you won't
be able to use the vacuum system.

How did you manage to break a steel key?  Or was this a hardware-store brass 
copy?

Allan

On Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:46 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

 I have a 1985 w123 sedan that SWMBO has been driving lately. She has
 been complaining about the trunk not opening right, so tonight I went
 out to take a look. The central locking system has not worked since I
 purchased the car (door locks, anyway).

 The trunk would not open, and the key slot was horizontal. I stuck the
 key in and managed to break it off. Nothing like being a ham-fisted
 mechanic. I got the piece of key out, while mangling the pushbutton,
 so now it is time to order one of those.

 Anyway my question is, how do I get in the trunk? I have the
 service manual CD's, but I haven't found

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Re: [MBZ] 1995 MERCEDES BENZ S350 (RUTLAND, VERMONT) $2500

2011-09-19 Thread Rolf

The engine is worth 2x that!

On 09/17/2011 01:33 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

WILTON wrote:

Oh, Gosh!  Mouth-watering tempting.


I don't think I'd pay $2.5k for a parts car, no matter how nice the 
parts.
But the real problem is that if I find a W140 donor body to put the 
parts in, there's at least an 80% chance it would be black. I like 
that color combo, white with dark tan leather, like my W116.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Canfield's VW?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Hahaha.  Not quite but ya got the color right.  Here is a shot of mine.

Mike
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Monday, September 19, 2011 4:44 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

 If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will come with a 
 new 
 steel key.  

This has not been my experience.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] ALDA delete - was ChowdaQ 2011 report

2011-09-19 Thread Rolf
Except that lambda on a diesel is only about emissions, not killing the 
engine.


I would not remove the ALDA myself unless I was going for more than 
16psi of boost. Adjusting it once all the other maintenance items are in 
spec is not a bad idea.


-Rolf

On 09/14/2011 12:06 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

Good way to dilute the oil with unburned fuel and clog the rings with soot.  Stupid kid 
down the road blew up his truck motor last year doing this by overchipping it.

The ALDA is there to control the fuel mixture.  Taking it off is sorta like 
punching a hole in the carb float to get more fuel.

Peter


-Original Message-

From: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 9:36 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] ALDA delete - was ChowdaQ 2011 report

There was an '87 wagon at the Rusty-Q with this mod (ALDA removed) but I did not
get to see it run.  There are more than a few folks on various forums who have
done this and promote it (at least last time I checked, which was a year or more
ago).  Personally I would not do this.  According to reports, more power and
better throttle response (especially at low RPM) is the result, the trade off is
lower fuel economy, more smoke, loss of safety device (over-boost protection
valve and plumbing)

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wed, September 14, 2011 10:31:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2011 report

Removing the ALDA provides full fuel all the time, which means full power, but
more smoke and no safety if the turbo waste gate fails (melted pistons may
result).

Max
--
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net  wrote:

Mitch, et al.
Um, the ALDA works on pressure from the intake manifold, pulling up to
increase fuel density in the mixture. Raising the ALDA on washers would
enrich this mixture, therefor releasing the ALDA all together would not
allow any enrichment at all under boost. ?
Knowledgeable people please supply corrections.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred


On 9/14/2011 9:53 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Fred Moir wrote:

Curt, dwight, et al.
The '82 300TD 5 speed (modified) had an electrical connector where I
thought the ALDA should be. If the butcher did not know about the
ALDA's importance in enriching the mixture when turbo takes over and
wanted to keep the oil in the IP, the leftover sensor/switch to
close the hole makes sense, kinda.
On the highway 80 odd horses vs 140-ish should be quite noticeable.
Random firing of the few live synapses is strange, not so?

Doesn't removal of the ALDA set the fuel to full rich?
I was thinking that the ALDA pushed down to limit the travel of
something, and raised under boost.
I know that on the 603 you can increase fuel by putting washers under
the ALDA body to raise it. Spudman (Dave GSXR) did that on his 1987.

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Re: [MBZ] ALDA delete - was ChowdaQ 2011 report

2011-09-19 Thread Rolf

The crush washer from the trans lines fit very nicely under there.

-Rolf

On 09/14/2011 01:37 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

Reminds me that I need to shim mine while I have the intake manifold off.

Max



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Re: [MBZ] Considering parting out my 1985 300d

2011-09-19 Thread Rolf
Wood is ok but missing metal backing. No clue if CC works, I'd toss it 
in for free.
I am looking for a buyer for the flywheel/clutch before I commit to 
parting the car. It was the biggest ticket item.


-Rolf


On 09/15/2011 11:26 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Let's try again - what do you want for the climate control push button
module and the wood piece that surrounds it?  Will need to know the
condition of both.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com  wrote:


I think the prices are pretty fair the NLA stuff I am asking MSRP or below
on.

Also euro bumpers front and rear with euro tow hitch $300
Warne Drei Ecke $80 shipped
300TD rear sway bar $200 (new never used, ordered wrong part etc etc)

-Rolf


On 09/13/2011 12:21 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


He means that in a nice way...

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
  wrote:

  CL crack head

--R


On 9/13/11 10:01 AM, Rolf wrote:

Local CL ad :

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/pts/2596207570.htmlhttp://atlanta.craigslist.org/**atl/pts/2596207570.html
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread WILTON

Can you depress the button?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:46 PM
Subject: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock



I have a 1985 w123 sedan that SWMBO has been driving lately. She has been 
complaining
about the trunk not opening right, so tonight I went out to take a look. The 
central locking

system has not worked since I purchased the car (door locks, anyway).

The trunk would not open, and the key slot was horizontal. I stuck the key 
in and managed to break it off.
Nothing like being a ham-fisted mechanic. I got the piece of key out, while 
mangling the pushbutton, so now it is

time to order one of those.

Anyway my question is, how do I get in the trunk? I have the service 
manual CD's, but I haven't found the

central locking system vacuum diagram.

Autorun doesn't work too well in Linux :( Any tips for viewing the
CD-ROM's in Linux?

Thanks,

Rick Knoble
1985 300CD
1987 190DT x2
1985 300D




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Re: [MBZ] ALDA delete - was ChowdaQ 2011 report

2011-09-19 Thread Rolf

One exception of course :D

If I had a VNT/VGT turbo I would ditch the ALDA, no need for it...

-Rolf

On 09/19/2011 10:00 AM, Rolf wrote:
Except that lambda on a diesel is only about emissions, not killing 
the engine.


I would not remove the ALDA myself unless I was going for more than 
16psi of boost. Adjusting it once all the other maintenance items are 
in spec is not a bad idea.


-Rolf

On 09/14/2011 12:06 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
Good way to dilute the oil with unburned fuel and clog the rings with 
soot.  Stupid kid down the road blew up his truck motor last year 
doing this by overchipping it.


The ALDA is there to control the fuel mixture.  Taking it off is 
sorta like punching a hole in the carb float to get more fuel.


Peter


-Original Message-

From: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 9:36 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] ALDA delete - was ChowdaQ 2011 report

There was an '87 wagon at the Rusty-Q with this mod (ALDA removed) 
but I did not
get to see it run.  There are more than a few folks on various 
forums who have
done this and promote it (at least last time I checked, which was a 
year or more
ago).  Personally I would not do this.  According to reports, more 
power and
better throttle response (especially at low RPM) is the result, the 
trade off is
lower fuel economy, more smoke, loss of safety device (over-boost 
protection

valve and plumbing)

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wed, September 14, 2011 10:31:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2011 report

Removing the ALDA provides full fuel all the time, which means full 
power, but
more smoke and no safety if the turbo waste gate fails (melted 
pistons may

result).

Max
--
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net  wrote:

Mitch, et al.
Um, the ALDA works on pressure from the intake manifold, pulling up to
increase fuel density in the mixture. Raising the ALDA on washers would
enrich this mixture, therefor releasing the ALDA all together would not
allow any enrichment at all under boost. ?
Knowledgeable people please supply corrections.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred


On 9/14/2011 9:53 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Fred Moir wrote:

Curt, dwight, et al.
The '82 300TD 5 speed (modified) had an electrical connector where I
thought the ALDA should be. If the butcher did not know about the
ALDA's importance in enriching the mixture when turbo takes over and
wanted to keep the oil in the IP, the leftover sensor/switch to
close the hole makes sense, kinda.
On the highway 80 odd horses vs 140-ish should be quite noticeable.
Random firing of the few live synapses is strange, not so?

Doesn't removal of the ALDA set the fuel to full rich?
I was thinking that the ALDA pushed down to limit the travel of
something, and raised under boost.
I know that on the 603 you can increase fuel by putting washers under
the ALDA body to raise it. Spudman (Dave GSXR) did that on his 1987.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble
 Wilton wrote:

 Can you depress the button?


Yup. Unfortunately depressing the button does nothing.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Vacuum pump.

2011-09-19 Thread Jim Cathey

The motor on a shopvac seems to get quite hot when doing
oil changes.  (Too hot?)


Shopvac motors are cooled by the airstream being sucked
through them.  They're not intended to work into a vacuum
for long periods.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Dieselhead

If you order from Rusty, you get cyl and Key.

On Monday, September 19, 2011 4:44 AM, Max Dillon 
meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will 
come with a new
 steel key. 


This has not been my experience.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble
 Or was this a hardware-store brass copy?


Yes.
Oops. 
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] CD manual

2011-09-19 Thread Jim Cathey

Or, Jim Cathey has a script - bash, maybe? - that goes through
and rewrites a bunch of stuff so at least the PDF is loaded by
the browser.


The script makes hard-links with long names containing backslashes
so that the existing navigator will work on something that is not
a windows PC.  (In my case, Mac OSX.)
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Vacuum pump.

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Canfield
I bought a 15 dollar vacuum pump that connects to an air compressor from
Harbor Freight.  No moving parts, just a venturi.  Works great hooked to an
old air tank with a piece of nylon tubing for the oil sucker.  Can't
overheat anything but your air compressor if you leave it on for hours.

Mike
On Sep 19, 2011 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 The motor on a shopvac seems to get quite hot when doing
 oil changes. (Too hot?)

 Shopvac motors are cooled by the airstream being sucked
 through them. They're not intended to work into a vacuum
 for long periods.

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Re: [MBZ] CD manual

2011-09-19 Thread Jim Cathey

Any tips for viewing the CD-ROM's in Linux?


Just open matrix6.htm in your browser.  You might need to run
the fixlinks script before you can get far.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Monday, September 19, 2011 9:18 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you order from Rusty, you get cyl and Key.

Weird I didn't remember it that way, but perhaps I'm mistaken.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
How many times? I only have experience with one, and a new key came with the 
cylinder for my '87 124 wagon.

Max
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Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

On Monday, September 19, 2011 4:44 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

 If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will come with a 
 new 
 steel key. 

This has not been my experience.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] ALDA delete - was ChowdaQ 2011 report

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks! About how many turns of the screw does that equate to?

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Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

The crush washer from the trans lines fit very nicely under there.

-Rolf

On 09/14/2011 01:37 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
 Reminds me that I need to shim mine while I have the intake manifold off.

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Re: [MBZ] CD manual

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble


  Any tips for viewing the CD-ROM's in Linux?
 -- Jim wrote back:

 Just open matrix6.htm in your browser. You might need to run
 the fixlinks script before you can get far.

Works like a charm.

Thank you,

Rick
  
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 MERCEDES BENZ S350 (RUTLAND, VERMONT) $2500

2011-09-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:
 The engine is worth 2x that!


Really?  You'd pay $5K for a low-mileage known-non-rodbender 3.5-liter
603?  How much would you give me for my '87 with 220K on the block,
20K on the top end with a #22 head, 500E swaybars and CLK wheels?

Alex

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[MBZ] Fw: W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Max Dillon
I ordered mine at the local dealer, and the parts guy seemed pretty competent 
then.  He cautioned me that the new lock may or may not come with a key, he 
said 
that a key is required to test the lock prior to shipping, and normally the 
tester will leave the key in the lock, but they don't always do that.  Perhaps 
if there are more than one matching ignition cylinders being made, they use one 
key for multiple tests and leave the key in the last cylinder tested?

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





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Re: [MBZ] OT Stereo stuff

2011-09-19 Thread Fmiser
   LWB250 wrote:
  
   Right now I am busy replacing all of my low bit rate
   compressed music with FLACs, bringing the uncompressed
   bitrates up around 2000 kbps or more.

  Philip wrote:
  
    With ncompressed, bitrate is a meaningless number.
  Unless you are looking at disk space.  

 Dan Penoff wrote:

 My motivation for going the FLAC route is to get uncompressed
 files. After listening to compressed versus uncompressed I am
 convinced I can tell a difference (FLAC vs. MP3, fir example.)

FLAC is a compression codec - but it is lossless.

A .wav (or AIFF, or AU) is uncompressed. 

I certainly agree that uncompressed or lossless compression
sounds better than overly compressed.  My point that with a flac
file, the bitrate has to do with the content of the audio and
nothing to do with the quality.  I have a test signal that is a
0 dBFS pulse every two seconds - the flac encoded file is small,
so the bitrate would be low as compared to the 0 dBFS sine
wave.  Zero quality loss with either, so bitrate is a
meaningless measure when dealing with lossless compression.

   I have some concerns about my Fisher 400c being powerful
   enough to drive the Magnepan speakers I have.

  Check the impedance.

 As for speaker impedance, the Magnepans are rated at 5 ohms,
 and The Fisher has taps for 4 and 8 ohms, so I will run it at
 4 ohms and see how things go.

That's a good start. :)  My caution is related to the fact that
on nearly all speakers the impedance varies with frequency.  The
6 ohm rating in a nominal value - that is, a number to put on
the spec sheet.  What you - and your amp - will really care
about is _minimum_ impedance.  Since that amp has a 4 ohm tap,
it will probably do okay.  

The danger?  If the load impedance is too low, it will cause the
amp to run out of current before it runs out of voltage and
not all protection circuitry will respond to over-current.  This
will be especially true if the amp is undersized, as it is in
your case.  So the impedance issue shouldn't matter until you
get the amp working near full power.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 Here you can find Armstrong tools at Fastenal outlets.
 I've not been there myself, but one just opened in town and I've been meaning 
 to check it out.


Armstrong stuff is excellent and priced less than SK.  I believe they
used to be the OEM for Sears.   I have an Armstrong flex-head 3/8
ratchet that became my favorite as soon as I started using it.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Brian Toscano wrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Hand_Tools

 In 1985 SK became part of Facom Tools.

 So that's why I started noticing warranty trouble in the spring of 1986.

That reflects rather badly on Facom.  They're supposed to be the
French (Italian?) equivalent of Mac or Snap-On, absolutely the highest
pro quality (used by Ferrari's pit crews according to Richard Griot),
but if they give you trouble with warranty replacements...

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Fmiser
 Allan Streib wrote:

 The trunk can be locked with the key, overriding the vacuum
 system.  I don't recall whether this is horizontal or vertical
 but I think it's horizontal.

On a W123 sedan trunk, the default position is horizontal.  Turn
it clockwise 90 deg to vertical to be always locked.  From
horizontal, turn it counter-clockwise 45 degrees (spring return)
to override a vacuum lock state to allow pressing the button to
open the trunk.

On a S123 wagon hatch, the default position is vertical.  It
functions like the doors, so no spring-loaded temporary unlock.
Turn counter-clockwise to lift the button inside and unlock,
clockwise to lock.

At least, this is how it is on all mine. :)

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Fmiser
   Brian Toscano wrote:
  
   In 1985 SK became part of Facom Tools.

  On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Mitch Haley
 
  So that's why I started noticing warranty trouble in the
  spring of 1986.

 Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 
 That reflects rather badly on Facom.  They're supposed to be
 the French (Italian?) equivalent of Mac or Snap-On, absolutely
 the highest pro quality (used by Ferrari's pit crews according
 to Richard Griot), but if they give you trouble with warranty
 replacements...

Quality and customer service are totally independent.  And maybe
if you work for Ferrari you get good service. *smiles*

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] E Bluetec

2011-09-19 Thread RELNGSON
 Now, now - MB still sells the E350 CDI in the US -- but they want 
 around
 $60,000 for one
 
$50900 base.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] lockout

2011-09-19 Thread RELNGSON
 ...The trunk would not open, and the key slot was horizontal...
 
Horizontal being the locked position. By a key.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread WILTON

I've always gotten a key with the 4 or 5 new cylinders I've gotten.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock


How many times? I only have experience with one, and a new key came with 
the cylinder for my '87 124 wagon.


Max
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Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

On Monday, September 19, 2011 4:44 AM, Max Dillon 
meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:


If you order a new ignition cylinder, odds are good that it will come 
with a new

steel key.


This has not been my experience.

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Alex Chamberlain wrote:


That reflects rather badly on Facom.  They're supposed to be the
French (Italian?) equivalent of Mac or Snap-On, absolutely the highest
pro quality (used by Ferrari's pit crews according to Richard Griot),
but if they give you trouble with warranty replacements...


Well, it wasn't really 'warranty trouble', as my entire 1/4 S-K set was in mint 
condition, but if it were scratched up, the hardware store would have been 
afraid to accept broken items. My parts manager wanted a 10mm wrench to install 
a battery she'd sold, so I gave her my S-K 1/4 driver with a 10mm socket on it, 
figuring there was no way she could damage brass battery screws with that. She 
told me the handle slipped when she gave it back. Yes, a 135lb girl had turned 
the plastic screwdriver handle hard enough to spin it on the shank, with her 
bare hands, and the hardware clerk was somewhat paranoid about exchanging it, 
although she did eventually decide there was nothing S-K could blame me for.


Just the idea that my 'unconditional lifetime warranty' had suddenly beome 
unconditional after ten years meant it was another 8-10 years before my next S-K 
purchase. That S-K flare wrench I bought in the mid-1990s was indeed Snap-On 
quality for 1/2 the price. You may be correct about Facom upping the quality 
level of S-K.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Randy Bennell

On 19/09/2011 2:48 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Alex Chamberlain wrote:


That reflects rather badly on Facom.  They're supposed to be the
French (Italian?) equivalent of Mac or Snap-On, absolutely the highest
pro quality (used by Ferrari's pit crews according to Richard Griot),
but if they give you trouble with warranty replacements...


Well, it wasn't really 'warranty trouble', as my entire 1/4 S-K set 
was in mint condition, but if it were scratched up, the hardware store 
would have been afraid to accept broken items. My parts manager wanted 
a 10mm wrench to install a battery she'd sold, so I gave her my S-K 
1/4 driver with a 10mm socket on it, figuring there was no way she 
could damage brass battery screws with that. She told me the handle 
slipped when she gave it back. Yes, a 135lb girl had turned the 
plastic screwdriver handle hard enough to spin it on the shank, with 
her bare hands, and the hardware clerk was somewhat paranoid about 
exchanging it, although she did eventually decide there was nothing 
S-K could blame me for.


Just the idea that my 'unconditional lifetime warranty' had suddenly 
beome unconditional after ten years meant it was another 8-10 years 
before my next S-K purchase. That S-K flare wrench I bought in the 
mid-1990s was indeed Snap-On quality for 1/2 the price. You may be 
correct about Facom upping the quality level of S-K.


Mitch.



They just never expected you to live so long.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Mitch Haley wrote:
Just the idea that my 'unconditional lifetime warranty' had suddenly 
beome unconditional after ten years 


Geez. Had suddenly become conditional, it should have said. The dealers had 
received instructions not to accept items with suspicious scratches, like 
wrenches and drive handles with nicks that could have been caused by cheater 
pipes, or screwdriver handles or shanks that might have been grabbed with pliers 
(my potential problem, and I swear the stripped plastic handle was cosmetically 
mint).


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Tim C
On one of the last nights of winter I locked my computer in the trunk.  Same
setup, wouldn't turn for anything.  I sprayed lubricant and WD40 to no
avail.  Eventually I manhandled it open but it was just luck I didn't break
the key.

The next day it was warmer, lock turned easily.  I put in some more WD40 in
case it was water, then later some decent lithium grease, and haven't had a
problem since.  (Except the cover plate is bent now.)  We'll see what
happens in the first freeze.

Anyway, try parking your back end in the sun, maybe you'll get lucky too. :)

-Tim
Also hasn't fixed the locking system
On Sep 19, 2011 10:24 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Or was this a hardware-store brass copy?


 Yes.
 Oops.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Time for the mity-vac...

IIRC you need only peel back the passenger side carpet and start applying 
suction to the lines that head to the rear of the car. That way if something up 
front leaks you can sneak by it to get the trunk open.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:19:47 -0500
From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock
Message-ID: snt0-eas271f5c4302d884051982044dd...@phx.gbl
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Wilton wrote:

 Can you depress the button?


Yup. Unfortunately depressing the button does nothing.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Randy Bennell
Up here in the north we use methyl hydrate to unfreeze locks. Can 
usually buy small squeeze bottles or aerosol spray cans at gas stations 
here in winter. More than once I have been low on fuel and unable to get 
the darned cap open to refill at the pump.


I think WD40 might prevent freezing but doubt it will do much for you 
once it is frozen. Then a hair blow dryer works better.


Randy

Randy

On 19/09/2011 3:28 PM, Tim C wrote:

On one of the last nights of winter I locked my computer in the trunk.  Same
setup, wouldn't turn for anything.  I sprayed lubricant and WD40 to no
avail.  Eventually I manhandled it open but it was just luck I didn't break
the key.

The next day it was warmer, lock turned easily.  I put in some more WD40 in
case it was water, then later some decent lithium grease, and haven't had a
problem since.  (Except the cover plate is bent now.)  We'll see what
happens in the first freeze.

Anyway, try parking your back end in the sun, maybe you'll get lucky too. :)

-Tim
Also hasn't fixed the locking system
On Sep 19, 2011 10:24 AM, Rick Knoblerickkno...@hotmail.com  wrote:

Or was this a hardware-store brass copy?


Yes.
Oops.
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Facom and SK have been divorced since the 1990's. SK tools was not doing well 
and was recently purchased by another tool conglomerate maybe two years ago?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

That reflects rather badly on Facom.  They're supposed to be the
French (Italian?) equivalent of Mac or Snap-On, absolutely the highest
pro quality (used by Ferrari's pit crews according to Richard Griot),
but if they give you trouble with warranty replacements...

Well, it wasn't really 'warranty trouble', as my entire 1/4 S-K set was in 
mint condition, but if it were scratched up, the hardware store would have been 
afraid to accept broken items. My parts manager wanted a 10mm wrench to install 
a battery she'd sold, so I gave her my S-K 1/4 driver with a 10mm socket on 
it, figuring there was no way she could damage brass battery screws with that. 
She told me the handle slipped when she gave it back. Yes, a 135lb girl had 
turned the plastic screwdriver handle hard enough to spin it on the shank, with 
her bare hands, and the hardware clerk was somewhat paranoid about exchanging 
it, although she did eventually decide there was nothing S-K could blame me for.

Just the idea that my 'unconditional lifetime warranty' had suddenly beome 
unconditional after ten years meant it was another 8-10 years before my next 
S-K purchase. That S-K flare wrench I bought in the mid-1990s was indeed 
Snap-On quality for 1/2 the price. You may be correct about Facom upping the 
quality level of S-K.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Anyone In or Near Fort Worth, TX?

2011-09-19 Thread LWB250
Anybody here live in or near to Ft. Worth, more specifically, Stirrup, TX?

I am trying to get in contact with a former neighbor who lives there - I have 
his address but can't find an email or phone number for him.

Drop me a note off list, please.

Thanks!

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] lockout

2011-09-19 Thread Fmiser
 relng...@aol.com wrote:

  ...The trunk would not open, and the key slot was
  horizontal...
  
 Horizontal being the locked position. By a key.

No, not on a W123 trunk.

When vertical, the key can be removed and is in
locked-and-only-the-key-will-unlock mode.

Horizontal, the key can be removed and is in
lock-and-unlock-at-the-whim-of-the-vacuum-system mode.

Turned 45 degrees counterclockwise from horizontal is
unlock-when-the-vacuum-says-lock mode.  The key cannot be
removed and the position is spring-loaded to return to
horizontal.

At least it's that way on all of my cars.

--  Philip

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[MBZ] OT Walmart Trivia

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble
Just found out Sam Walton was originally from Claremore OK, home of Okiebenz. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Walmart Trivia

2011-09-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well yes you did not know that? His wife was from here as well and her family 
the robsons are big around here. We had one of the very first walmarts and one 
of the first super centers when they came out with those

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 Just found out Sam Walton was originally from Claremore OK, home of Okiebenz. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Walmart Trivia

2011-09-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Also if read up on him it says he got his start from a load from his father in 
law, which are the big old money robsons around here

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 Just found out Sam Walton was originally from Claremore OK, home of Okiebenz. 
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] lockout

2011-09-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Mine too, both 123 and 201. I bet there was a year when this changed. Wish 
somebody with an early '90s 124 would chime in.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:56:34 -0500
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 relng...@aol.com wrote:

  ...The trunk would not open, and the key slot was
  horizontal...
 
 Horizontal being the locked position. By a key.

No, not on a W123 trunk.

When vertical, the key can be removed and is in
locked-and-only-the-key-will-unlock mode.

Horizontal, the key can be removed and is in
lock-and-unlock-at-the-whim-of-the-vacuum-system mode.

Turned 45 degrees counterclockwise from horizontal is
unlock-when-the-vacuum-says-lock mode.  The key cannot be
removed and the position is spring-loaded to return to
horizontal.

At least it's that way on all of my cars.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Lock

2011-09-19 Thread Rick Knoble

The trunk opened this evening. Weird.
Anyway, I have no time to troubleshoot this until Wednesday or Thursday.
I think the vacuum lock on the truck latch is sticking. I printed out all of 
the pertinent
PDF's and I will have Mityvac in hand. Lock cylinders are on order from Q so 
all is well.

Thanks to all who replied.

RIck
  
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Re: [MBZ] rebuilding OM617 vacuum pump

2011-09-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I don't think I ever got mine over 110.  Yeah, it was a metallic paint.
Very pretty.  Unfortunately we lived near the beach, and it was impossible
to keep up against the salt air.  The rear shock towers went first, aided by
my driving too fast on a potholed road.  My mechanical engineer brother
designed a reinforcement and had that welded in.  I did love that car
though.

Greg

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On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] rebuilding OM617 vacuum pump

Greg Fiorentino wrote:
 Mine was also a '77... a red one.  It almost got me a few speeding
tickets.
 In one instance the cop was really PO'd, it took him a while to catch me
(I
 didn't realize he was there)!  My wife really enjoyed watching me get the
 treatment!

Cardinalrod metallic? That was the color of mine, before the moron PO
wrecked a 
front fender and had the entire car repainted. They painted it a dark
burgundy, 
not metallic, and by the time I got the car (car was 7 years old, I don't
know 
how old the paint was) it was checked all over and peeling in places.

Would do 120mph flat out, with the tach reading about 7k. I think redline
was 
5,750. I'm lucky I never got a ticket in that thing. I did crack a tappet at

120mph once. Drove it home slowly on the broken tappet, ruined a cam lobe in
the 
process.

Mitch.


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[MBZ] take it, walk away, or run

2011-09-19 Thread clay monroe
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2601763854.html

Anybody have experience with the slk?  Title is not an issue to me.  Gump was 
never going to be perfect, so I am ok with a car with minor issues.




clay 

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers






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Re: [MBZ] take it, walk away, or run

2011-09-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:59 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2601763854.html


All I know about them is that the supercharged four sounds nice.  Kind
of growly under load, almost like a diesel.  And that an SLK is about
the only way you are going to get a stick in a Benz made less than 20
years ago.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Dieselhead
Yeah, I had the lifetime warrenty snears Die-easy batteries back 
when they had that warranty.  They lasted from a day to a year, and 
snears didn't want to see me coming back.  The last time, they told 
me they changed the policy, and that was the last battery I'd get.


Soon after, Penny's had a lifetime battery.  I bought one of them. 
they were better, but the second time they replaced it, they said 
that was the last battery.  Soon after, they closed all their auto 
centers.


Both were sold to me as free replacement as long as you own the 
car.  I still have the car.  The penny;s battery has been sitting 
dead for 21 years  Some year I will sell it for scrap.





They just never expected you to live so long.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] First experiment with HF tools

2011-09-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
  The penny;s battery has been sitting dead for 21
 years  Some year I will sell it for scrap.

The car or the battery?  Around here FLAPS will give you $10-$20 off
the price of a new battery if you bring in an old one, even long out
of warranty or from another store---they call it a core charge, but
I'm sure it's really that they get something for the lead.

Alex

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