Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
It's a self bleeding system. If you didn't already, I would definitely flush the system and replace the filter. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:12 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
The best method I've found for bleeding the system is to loosen the connections at the top of each strut and let the foam out, tighten back up once the fluid coming out is free of air (clear). Start applying penetrating oil now (I really like PB Blaster) to all the connections, bleed screw, etc. etc. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations! if you can, start spraying/coating the high pressure line nuts at the accumulators with penetrating oil of your choice, NOW. If they cause a problem, the line rusts to the nut. Nut to accumulator is generally not a problem, but coat the threads anyway. 1. release hydraulic pressure at the valve 2. loosen/remove the high pressure lines. 3. remove 2 bolts (each) inside that hold the accumulators in place 4. bolt new accumulators to the chassis 5. install/tighten the high pressure lines 6. be sure the valve linkage is hooked up again The system is self-bleeding, or there is a simple procedure to load and unload the car to bleed the system faster. I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Yes, when you open it, air gets in, so you MUST bleed it once you've put it back together, then check and correct the fluid level. Did you bleed it after the last repair on the car with the harsh ride? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Also, don't forget to replace the copper sealing rings at each accumulator. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
I think you're correct in that the FSM procedures for replacing accumulators and struts basically says that post installation the next steps are run the engine, correct fluid level, check for leaks. However, same FSM has no maintenance procedure for changing the oil and filter. Common sense tells me that the system should be bled, and I don't buy the self-bleeding idea because the SLS control valve is at the low point of the system, not the high side, and the fluid in the accumulators and struts doesn't circulate, it just moves back and forth during the suspension action. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: It's a self bleeding system. If you didn't already, I would definitely flush the system and replace the filter. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:12 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
It's pretty easy to flush the system using the return line to the reservoir and bottle with a piece of tubing or fuel line. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I think you're correct in that the FSM procedures for replacing accumulators and struts basically says that post installation the next steps are run the engine, correct fluid level, check for leaks. However, same FSM has no maintenance procedure for changing the oil and filter. Common sense tells me that the system should be bled, and I don't buy the self-bleeding idea because the SLS control valve is at the low point of the system, not the high side, and the fluid in the accumulators and struts doesn't circulate, it just moves back and forth during the suspension action. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: It's a self bleeding system. If you didn't already, I would definitely flush the system and replace the filter. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:12 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Also, don't forget to replace the copper sealing rings at each accumulator. -- If you have everything BUT the copper sealing washers, you can avoid a call to Rusty by re-annealing them. And I would also add to the explanation of the procedure, to wear old clothes and prepare to take a hydraulic fluid shower. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Yep. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: It's pretty easy to flush the system using the return line to the reservoir and bottle with a piece of tubing or fuel line. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I think you're correct in that the FSM procedures for replacing accumulators and struts basically says that post installation the next steps are run the engine, correct fluid level, check for leaks. However, same FSM has no maintenance procedure for changing the oil and filter. Common sense tells me that the system should be bled, and I don't buy the self-bleeding idea because the SLS control valve is at the low point of the system, not the high side, and the fluid in the accumulators and struts doesn't circulate, it just moves back and forth during the suspension action. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: It's a self bleeding system. If you didn't already, I would definitely flush the system and replace the filter. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:12 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. And I would also add to the explanation of the procedure, to wear old clothes and prepare to take a hydraulic fluid shower. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. I realize that's how it's SUPPOSED to work, but when working on the suspension of my 500SEL Euro I seem to always get a Febi shampoo anyway. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Isn't this accomplished when the car is on a lift? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:55:50 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. And I would also add to the explanation of the procedure, to wear old clothes and prepare to take a hydraulic fluid shower. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Can you recommend a good condiitioner? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:10:58 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. I realize that's how it's SUPPOSED to work, but when working on the suspension of my 500SEL Euro I seem to always get a Febi shampoo anyway. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Febi Pentosin make an excellent conditioner. Especially for dry or colored conditions. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators Can you recommend a good condiitioner? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:10:58 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. I realize that's how it's SUPPOSED to work, but when working on the suspension of my 500SEL Euro I seem to always get a Febi shampoo anyway. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Febi Pentosin make an excellent conditioner. Especially for dry or colored conditions. Avoid the Bilstein HD, though, if you want your hair to stay factory-smooth. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
and DONT get the FUSES WET either. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Febi Pentosin make an excellent conditioner. Especially for dry or colored conditions. Avoid the Bilstein HD, though, if you want your hair to stay factory-smooth. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD WVO
On 13/10/2011 6:13 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 13/10/2011 3:26 PM, Allan Streib wrote: This guy seems to be fairly straight about his car http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2646704174.html One could remove and sell the WVO kit but one would NEVER get the smell of frenchfries out of that interior. I can think of much worse smells to be permanently stuck with in a car! Alex Maybe, but I suggest it would get old in a hurry. I guess it may depend on how careful he was but looking at that tank sitting in the well at the back of the car leads me to believe that spills have probably occurred. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] chicago CL low mile '94 e320 $2700
I bet one of us Chicagoland folk can look at that for you too Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (318,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 10/13/2011 5:09 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Hey Dan, does your kid want to come back up north for a car? http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/2648250774.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Mobil1 in the diesel black. Probably problematic if you have other than black hair. --R On 10/14/11 11:15 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Can you recommend a good condiitioner? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD WVO
On Friday, October 14, 2011 11:15 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I guess it may depend on how careful he was but looking at that tank sitting in the well at the back of the car leads me to believe that spills have probably occurred. Good steam cleaning with strong detergent would get most of it, if there is any. Worst case pull out the carpet and replace. I personally would not knowingly buy a car that had ever been run on WVO, but the way this ad was written it seemed that the owner was doing things like careful filtering and using a proper pre-heated system not just pulling up at the back of McDonald's and siphoning grease into the fuel tank. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
I prefer to use Neutragena T/gel (very fine hair with dandruff... nothing else seems to work as good) The coal tar smell is amazing, not sure why... Walt On Oct 14, 2011 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Mobil1 in the diesel black. Probably problematic if you have other than black hair. --R On 10/14/11 11:15 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Can you recommend a good condiitioner? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM603 #17 head for sale
Dieselvolk, My head replacement odessy has taken a new turn; I'm now the proud owner of a #20 head (which has the old style pre-chambers installed) so I've got an extra head. The #17 head I'm selling was pressure tested, checked for flat, and the valve seats were checked. New valve stem seals were installed. It will need inclined injectors (Bosch NA35X) and glow plugs, but comes with lifters and camshaft. You can install with confidence. If interested let me know, special price for list members. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 #17 head for sale
So now we can call you zweikopf? Congratulations, I think. Certainly congrats are due when the wagon is back in service. Dieselvolk, My head replacement odessy has taken a new turn; I'm now the proud owner of a #20 head (which has the old style pre-chambers installed) so I've got an extra head. The #17 head I'm selling was pressure tested, checked for flat, and the valve seats were checked. New valve stem seals were installed. It will need inclined injectors (Bosch NA35X) and glow plugs, but comes with lifters and camshaft. You can install with confidence. If interested let me know, special price for list members. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT OWS - no comments comments?
The local news for these folk has not hit your local stations yet? These issues don't raise comments? Just for grins, here is a few suggestions regarding QWS: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/my-advice-to-the-occupy-wall-street-protesters-20111012?print=true mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 #17 head for sale
How much Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dieselvolk, My head replacement odessy has taken a new turn; I'm now the proud owner of a #20 head (which has the old style pre-chambers installed) so I've got an extra head. The #17 head I'm selling was pressure tested, checked for flat, and the valve seats were checked. New valve stem seals were installed. It will need inclined injectors (Bosch NA35X) and glow plugs, but comes with lifters and camshaft. You can install with confidence. If interested let me know, special price for list members. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 #17 head for sale
Hahahaha, actually three-head, still have the original. Now that I've got all the pieces, should be a matter of days until she is back on the road. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: So now we can call you zweikopf? Congratulations, I think. Certainly congrats are due when the wagon is back in service. Dieselvolk, My head replacement odessy has taken a new turn; I'm now the proud owner of a #20 head (which has the old style pre-chambers installed) so I've got an extra head. The #17 head I'm selling was pressure tested, checked for flat, and the valve seats were checked. New valve stem seals were installed. It will need inclined injectors (Bosch NA35X) and glow plugs, but comes with lifters and camshaft. You can install with confidence. If interested let me know, special price for list members. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Power Drivers
To continue our kitchen remodel, I was able to borrow a Remington Power Driver from a neighbor and then went to our local lumber yard to get supplies. I got #4 power charges and 2.5 nails, which are supposed to be use to fasten 2x4s to hard concrete. I was told that the nails would be sunk into the boards. My problem, however, is that the nails are not sunk into the boards. They are not even flush with the top surface of the boards. The one that went into the concrete the most compressed the orange plastic piece that centers the end of the nail in the bore of the gun to about half its original length. The one that went into the concrete the least did not compress the orange plastic piece at all. Is this the way it's supposed to work. (Our concrete, at 52 years old, is apparently extra hard.) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Power Drivers
Get yourself a stronger charge. I had to test out charges to get into my 85 year old basement walls. I forget which color it was but #3 worked best consistency clay On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Craig wrote: To continue our kitchen remodel, I was able to borrow a Remington Power Driver from a neighbor and then went to our local lumber yard to get supplies. I got #4 power charges and 2.5 nails, which are supposed to be use to fasten 2x4s to hard concrete. I was told that the nails would be sunk into the boards. My problem, however, is that the nails are not sunk into the boards. They are not even flush with the top surface of the boards. The one that went into the concrete the most compressed the orange plastic piece that centers the end of the nail in the bore of the gun to about half its original length. The one that went into the concrete the least did not compress the orange plastic piece at all. Is this the way it's supposed to work. (Our concrete, at 52 years old, is apparently extra hard.) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Power Drivers
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:00:32 -0700 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Get yourself a stronger charge. I had to test out charges to get into my 85 year old basement walls. I forget which color it was but #3 worked best consistency According to the information I have, #4 charges are stronger than #3. The lumber yard had #5 charges, but they were .27 caliber while all the others (and the gun I borrowed) are .22 caliber. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Power Drivers
They work really good in newish concrete. In older concrete, they take an extra powerful charge, or don't go in as far, but still hold well. I suspect what you have driven in will hold just fine. I even used one to drive the nails into a steel I beam. Although the nails did not penetrate the steel, they held well. In essence, the nails welded into the steel. To continue our kitchen remodel, I was able to borrow a Remington Power Driver from a neighbor and then went to our local lumber yard to get supplies. I got #4 power charges and 2.5 nails, which are supposed to be use to fasten 2x4s to hard concrete. I was told that the nails would be sunk into the boards. My problem, however, is that the nails are not sunk into the boards. They are not even flush with the top surface of the boards. The one that went into the concrete the most compressed the orange plastic piece that centers the end of the nail in the bore of the gun to about half its original length. The one that went into the concrete the least did not compress the orange plastic piece at all. Is this the way it's supposed to work. (Our concrete, at 52 years old, is apparently extra hard.) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
