Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total the priceless love of my life
So how does those prices compare to cars for sale? Can you go out and buy a similar E420 for what the insurance company is offering to pay? And remember, when dealing with insurance companies you make sure to describe the car as being above average to good condition, they have to prove that it is not and it is your pride and joy, you know a few tears and sobbering that you loved that car would not hurt either, break the heart of the loss adjuster, ahh hang on they don't have a heart. Hendrik who is looking for a V8 124ahh that's right...I remember nowthey didn't bloody well make em in RHD versions and if they did they would be fn rare and expensive and certainly worth more than 4K, even in fair condition Craig wrote: I called my insurance company today and found out they are going to total our '94 E420. I'm planning on buying it back and bringing it home so I can get some parts off it. The values I found for the car are all over the map: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
I'm sure you know the $2300 Edmund's retail is a joke. Go to a used car dealer and see what $2300 really buys. Is $3778 the car's replacement value, or the check they'll write after deductible? Depending on condition, you might be able to replace it for $3500+tax, but I'm pretty sure that would have to be a private party, not retail, deal. Where's the car now? Is it at your house? You don't want things like your wheels and new tires to start disappearing while you still own it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Maybe you can replace it for $3500. OTOH, you had that car pretty much sorted out, and anything you buy to replace it will likely need some money and time thrown into it. This one is probably worth more than yours, and they've already posted it on CL 21 times since 9-13. http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/ctd/2656954738.html Maybe swap wheels and anything else you want with the 320, refuse the $3778, see if they'll bump it up $500 to close out the claim, and take your money. What were you going to try to sell it for? Mitch Haley wrote: Depending on condition, you might be able to replace it for $3500+tax, but I'm pretty sure that would have to be a private party, not retail, deal. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
For your reference, I was just paid about $6500 for my '95 E320 wagon with 110k miles by my insurance company. (Also note the other guys insurance wanted to pay me $5000.) I found that to be more than enough to buy the parts (original MB) and repair the car properly, so I did. Just got it back this week. Damage was to a front fender and bumper, but didn't effect the hood or inner fender. Its interesting how high the estimate was for really minor damage. Jaime On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I called my insurance company today and found out they are going to total our '94 E420. I'm planning on buying it back and bringing it home so I can get some parts off it. The values I found for the car are all over the map: - http://www.kbb.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/1994-mercedes-benz-e-class/e420-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=9458intent=trade-in-selloptions=348026|truemileage=124000category=sedanpricetype=private-partyquizconditions=1|1|0|2|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1 Excellent $5,875 Good $5,425 Fair $4,725 - http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/1994/tmv-appraise-results.html Pricing Details for a Mercedes-Benz E-ClassSedan E420 4.2L V8 4-speed Automatic Customized True Market Value_ Prices Private Dealer Trade-In PartyRetail National Base Price $981$1,510 $2,392 Optional Equipment $8 $11 $19 Power Rear Sunshade $8 $11 $19 Color Adjustment - White$1$1 $2 Regional Adjustment - for Zip Code 87544 $-10 $-16 $-26 Mileage Adjustment - 124,000 miles$536 $536 $536 Condition Adjustment - Average $-258 $-390$-606 Total $1,258$1,652 $2,317 - http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/1994/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/Sedan-4D-E420/Values Pricing Rough Average Clean Clean Trade-In Trade-In Trade-In Retail Base Price$ 675 $1,675 $2,525 $3,875 Mileage: 124,000 $1,262 $1,262 $1,262 $1,262 TOTAL PRICE $1,937 $2,937 $3,787 $5,137 - I would say the car was in average/fair condition. Kelly Blue Book says the highest, $4,725. Edmunds says the lowest, $1,652. NADA Average Trade-In corrected by the ratio of Clean Retail Base Price to Clean Trade-In Base Price plus Mileage [1675*(3875/2525)+1262] is $3,833. USAA is offering me $3778.03. I'm fairly certain this will raise our insurance rates. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Jaime, What was the buyout from your insurance company, if I might ask? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: For your reference, I was just paid about $6500 for my '95 E320 wagon with 110k miles by my insurance company. (Also note the other guys insurance wanted to pay me $5000.) I found that to be more than enough to buy the parts (original MB) and repair the car properly, so I did. Just got it back this week. Damage was to a front fender and bumper, but didn't effect the hood or inner fender. Its interesting how high the estimate was for really minor damage. Jaime On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I called my insurance company today and found out they are going to total our '94 E420. I'm planning on buying it back and bringing it home so I can get some parts off it. The values I found for the car are all over the map: - http://www.kbb.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/1994-mercedes-benz-e-class/e420-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=9458intent=trade-in-selloptions=348026|truemileage=124000category=sedanpricetype=private-partyquizconditions=1|1|0|2|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1 Excellent $5,875 Good $5,425 Fair $4,725 - http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/1994/tmv-appraise-results.html Pricing Details for a Mercedes-Benz E-ClassSedan E420 4.2L V8 4-speed Automatic Customized True Market Value_ Prices Private Dealer Trade-In PartyRetail National Base Price $981$1,510 $2,392 Optional Equipment $8 $11 $19 Power Rear Sunshade $8 $11 $19 Color Adjustment - White$1$1 $2 Regional Adjustment - for Zip Code 87544 $-10 $-16 $-26 Mileage Adjustment - 124,000 miles$536 $536 $536 Condition Adjustment - Average $-258 $-390$-606 Total $1,258$1,652 $2,317 - http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/1994/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/Sedan-4D-E420/Values Pricing Rough Average Clean Clean Trade-In Trade-In Trade-In Retail Base Price$ 675 $1,675 $2,525 $3,875 Mileage: 124,000 $1,262 $1,262 $1,262 $1,262 TOTAL PRICE $1,937 $2,937 $3,787 $5,137 - I would say the car was in average/fair condition. Kelly Blue Book says the highest, $4,725. Edmunds says the lowest, $1,652. NADA Average Trade-In corrected by the ratio of Clean Retail Base Price to Clean Trade-In Base Price plus Mileage [1675*(3875/2525)+1262] is $3,833. USAA is offering me $3778.03. I'm fairly certain this will raise our insurance rates. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
NADA is the only real reference out there. I always love looking at Kelley BB, as the trade in values obviously benefit the dealer as do the resale prices NADA Black Book is the one to have. A dealer only subscription service, it is very accurate, especially on a local market basis. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I'm sure you know the $2300 Edmund's retail is a joke. Go to a used car dealer and see what $2300 really buys. Is $3778 the car's replacement value, or the check they'll write after deductible? Depending on condition, you might be able to replace it for $3500+tax, but I'm pretty sure that would have to be a private party, not retail, deal. Where's the car now? Is it at your house? You don't want things like your wheels and new tires to start disappearing while you still own it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
$400-500... I forget exactly. The other guy's company wanted $700. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Jaime, What was the buyout from your insurance company, if I might ask? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: For your reference, I was just paid about $6500 for my '95 E320 wagon with 110k miles by my insurance company. (Also note the other guys insurance wanted to pay me $5000.) I found that to be more than enough to buy the parts (original MB) and repair the car properly, so I did. Just got it back this week. Damage was to a front fender and bumper, but didn't effect the hood or inner fender. Its interesting how high the estimate was for really minor damage. Jaime On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I called my insurance company today and found out they are going to total our '94 E420. I'm planning on buying it back and bringing it home so I can get some parts off it. The values I found for the car are all over the map: - http://www.kbb.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/1994-mercedes-benz-e-class/e420-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=9458intent=trade-in-selloptions=348026|truemileage=124000category=sedanpricetype=private-partyquizconditions=1|1|0|2|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1 Excellent $5,875 Good $5,425 Fair $4,725 - http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/1994/tmv-appraise-results.html Pricing Details for a Mercedes-Benz E-ClassSedan E420 4.2L V8 4-speed Automatic Customized True Market Value_ Prices Private Dealer Trade-In PartyRetail National Base Price $981$1,510 $2,392 Optional Equipment $8 $11 $19 Power Rear Sunshade $8 $11 $19 Color Adjustment - White$1$1 $2 Regional Adjustment - for Zip Code 87544 $-10 $-16 $-26 Mileage Adjustment - 124,000 miles$536 $536 $536 Condition Adjustment - Average $-258 $-390$-606 Total $1,258$1,652 $2,317 - http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/1994/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/Sedan-4D-E420/Values Pricing Rough Average Clean Clean Trade-In Trade-In Trade-In Retail Base Price$ 675 $1,675 $2,525 $3,875 Mileage: 124,000 $1,262 $1,262 $1,262 $1,262 TOTAL PRICE $1,937 $2,937 $3,787 $5,137 - I would say the car was in average/fair condition. Kelly Blue Book says the highest, $4,725. Edmunds says the lowest, $1,652. NADA Average Trade-In corrected by the ratio of Clean Retail Base Price to Clean Trade-In Base Price plus Mileage [1675*(3875/2525)+1262] is $3,833. USAA is offering me $3778.03. I'm fairly certain this will raise our insurance rates. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL laugh of the day
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[MBZ] OT Airplane pr0n
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/10/video-air-to-air-with-anas-787-dreamliner/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL laugh of the day
Wow that is ugly with that gold bottom and chrome wheels. Mike On Oct 21, 2011 8:07 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://saginaw.craigslist.org/**cto/2649961777.htmlhttp://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/2649961777.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL laugh of the day
Michael Canfield wrote: Wow that is ugly with that gold bottom and chrome wheels. How about the ROLEX badge on the trunk lid? Almost as funny as the price. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes: And why would Daimler remove someone who is good at their job and may be hard to replace, they could have asked Lieb to refund the money and given him a stern talking to, unless he was warned to be very careful in regards to using company funds. The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the USA over bribes paid in eastern europe. Why the USA would care, or have any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to me. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: NADA Black Book is the one to have. A dealer only subscription service, it is very accurate, especially on a local market basis. Is this also the book the banks use to decide if they will make a loan on a particular car? My local credit union will let members use their book to see what cars are worth. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL laugh of the day
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/2649961777.html Wonder how they got the 2008 rims on there. I thought the bolt size changed (12 mm to 14 mm, something like that?) in the 2000s, and the offset is surely wrong. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com writes: Its interesting how high the estimate was for really minor damage. Insurance companies will start getting nervous once the estimate gets above 50% of the vehicle value. They know if it was hit that hard there is often hidden damage that is not evident until repairs are started. Rather then end up on the hook for repairs that cost more than the vehicle is worth, they will just offer a write-off at that point. Fortunately it sounds like that was not the case for you. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: MB's US CEO canned/sin binned
Why the USA would care, or have any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to me. Latest business fad, I'd guess. Our company is making all kinds of noise about their new anti-bribery policy, etc... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: NADA is the only real reference out there. I always love looking at Kelley BB, as the trade in values obviously benefit the dealer as do the resale prices KBB is funny... their dealer retail prices only show the values for cars in excellent condition as if dealers really do much more than a quick detail cleaning to the trade-ins they get before they go out on the used car lot. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100298 Got this device in my new house which has absolutely (and I mean it!) no identifying information on it anywhere. I have been over every square inch of it, and not a manufacturer's name, model number, nada. I am assuming it's a water softener, as it has a timer with a consumption wheel that counts down from 2200 gallons, at which time it recycles. The same knob has a Backflush and a Recycle position as well. There is a reservoir next to it that was empty when I moved in, but for the heck of it I filled it with a couple of 40 pound bags of softener salt and set it to recycle. If anyone can identify this thing I would appreciate it. When I have time (ha!) I may crack open the timer box and see if there is anything in there that might identify the maker. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Yes, banks can also subscribe to the NADA Black Book. My dad had them around when he worked for GMAC, which was nice. Don't know what a subscription costs, but I'm sure they're not cheap. I believe they were updated every couple of weeks, too. Dan From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: NADA Black Book is the one to have. A dealer only subscription service, it is very accurate, especially on a local market basis. Is this also the book the banks use to decide if they will make a loan on a particular car? My local credit union will let members use their book to see what cars are worth. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:09:58 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100298 If anyone can identify this thing I would appreciate it. When I have time (ha!) I may crack open the timer box and see if there is anything in there that might identify the maker. It's a water softener, for sure. Other than that, I can't offer any information. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL laugh of the day
I think what is particularly hilarious is the typo Also comes with aluminum *alloid *stock rims when he clearly meant to write that it ... comes with aluminum *Altoid* stock rims.. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/2649961777.html Wonder how they got the 2008 rims on there. I thought the bolt size changed (12 mm to 14 mm, something like that?) in the 2000s, and the offset is surely wrong. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:39:23 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Maybe you can replace it for $3500. OTOH, you had that car pretty much sorted out, and anything you buy to replace it will likely need some money and time thrown into it. That's a good point, but the one to replace it is the '95 E320 I bought from Don Snook. This one is probably worth more than yours, and they've already posted it on CL 21 times since 9-13. http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/ctd/2656954738.html The ad doesn't say what year it is, but it's not a W124 and is newer than 1994. BTW, what is all that junk below spliter? Maybe swap wheels and anything else you want with the 320, refuse the $3778, see if they'll bump it up $500 to close out the claim, and take your money. I'm planning on bringing the car home and swapping wheels, etc. What were you going to try to sell it for? $3500 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned
Allan Streib wrote: The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the USA over bribes paid in eastern europe. Why the USA would care, or have any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to me. We have federal laws against bribing foreign officials, including countries where it is impossible to do business without greasing the proper palm. Just a small part of the USA government's efforts to appoint itself the planet's chief of police. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Craig wrote: What were you going to try to sell it for? $3500 Sounds like you're all set. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stubborn fuel leak - W123 300TD main fuel filter housing
Max, I may not have stretched the bolt BUT there is a hairline crack in the side of the aluminum housing of the fuel filter assembly!! Assuming this is the source of the leak, what's involved in replacing it? Rusty - is the 1985 assembly different from the 1983? Andrew On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: He may have already stretched the center bolt, might need to replace it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: None of these should be super tight. The fact that you believe you have to overtorque the center bolt indicates that your problem is at the center bolt. Put new orings on it and find/make a new copper or aluminum washer for the center bolt. As for the input and output banjo fittings, order new washers for them. Without looking up the spec, you tighten them untill you feel them crush. That is when the wrench turns, but the resistance is constant. It is only about 20-25 ft-lb if I had to guess. Center bolt is maybe 30-35 ft-lb The two tiny rubber rings on the center bolt appear to be OK, and as I wrote, there is no fuel trickling down from underneath the bolt head. Hey Allan, regarding the hollow bolts on the input and output of the filter housing - I have never touched these before. Are they torqued as super tight(ly) as the center bolt on the filter housing? Were they to leak, would the fuel pool up in the shallow depression atop the filter housing?? I may not have mentioned that diesel is visible around the rim of the top of the filter, but this appears to be a result of leaking down from above rather than an upwelling due to improper seal with the canister housing. In a worst case scenario, whAt's involved in replacing the entire fuel filter housing? Andrew 1985 and 1983 300TDs (one leaks, one doesn't) _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Allan Streib wrote: Is this also the book the banks use to decide if they will make a loan on a particular car? My local credit union will let members use their book to see what cars are worth. My CU has the yellow book subscription, but those only go back 8 years. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Airplane pr0n
Amazing how the tail (empennage) surfaces still look like a B-47 of mid to late 40's design. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:53 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT Airplane pr0n http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/10/video-air-to-air-with-anas-787-dreamliner/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned
Allan, Jim, I worked for an oil company in the 70's when our gov't passed a law making it illegal to bribe foreign officials in order to get business. This oil company ran afoul of the law for bribing the oil minister in Nigeria to do business. Now if anyone cared to look, you didn't do business in Nigeria for oil unless you bribed the oil minister. Anyway, I think the US politicians wanted the bribe money to stay in the US and be given to them as campaign contributions or whatever you want to call it. We, USA, always tries to impose Western morality on other countries and it rarely works. I'm still waiting to see what's going to happen with Egypt, Iraq, and now Libya. Sudden changes are not always that great...seems we never hear about South Africa anymore...all must be well there. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
How much to buy it back? Surely it can be fixed fairly easily Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:40 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I called my insurance company today and found out they are going to total our '94 E420. I'm planning on buying it back and bringing it home so I can get some parts off it. The values I found for the car are all over the map: - http://www.kbb.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/1994-mercedes-benz-e-class/e420-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=9458intent=trade-in-selloptions=348026|truemileage=124000category=sedanpricetype=private-partyquizconditions=1|1|0|2|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1 Excellent $5,875 Good $5,425 Fair $4,725 - http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/1994/tmv-appraise-results.html Pricing Details for a Mercedes-Benz E-ClassSedan E420 4.2L V8 4-speed Automatic Customized True Market Value_ Prices Private Dealer Trade-In PartyRetail National Base Price $981$1,510 $2,392 Optional Equipment $8 $11 $19 Power Rear Sunshade $8 $11 $19 Color Adjustment - White$1$1 $2 Regional Adjustment - for Zip Code 87544 $-10 $-16 $-26 Mileage Adjustment - 124,000 miles$536 $536 $536 Condition Adjustment - Average $-258 $-390$-606 Total $1,258$1,652 $2,317 - http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/1994/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/Sedan-4D-E420/Values Pricing Rough Average Clean Clean Trade-In Trade-In Trade-In Retail Base Price$ 675 $1,675 $2,525 $3,875 Mileage: 124,000 $1,262 $1,262 $1,262 $1,262 TOTAL PRICE $1,937 $2,937 $3,787 $5,137 - I would say the car was in average/fair condition. Kelly Blue Book says the highest, $4,725. Edmunds says the lowest, $1,652. NADA Average Trade-In corrected by the ratio of Clean Retail Base Price to Clean Trade-In Base Price plus Mileage [1675*(3875/2525)+1262] is $3,833. USAA is offering me $3778.03. I'm fairly certain this will raise our insurance rates. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Nada and Black Book are 2 different things/companies. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:12 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, banks can also subscribe to the NADA Black Book. My dad had them around when he worked for GMAC, which was nice. Don't know what a subscription costs, but I'm sure they're not cheap. I believe they were updated every couple of weeks, too. Dan From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: NADA Black Book is the one to have. A dealer only subscription service, it is very accurate, especially on a local market basis. Is this also the book the banks use to decide if they will make a loan on a particular car? My local credit union will let members use their book to see what cars are worth. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Nada and Black Book are 2 different things/companies. What do they call the NADA 'Collector's Car Guide'? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
I had one of those sitting next to the old well pump, and took it out and took it apart to see how it worked. The tank was heavy as hell with the stuff (the little balls that collect the nasty stuff and water in it), and the salt bin was just like a big plastic trash can with some piping, and it was heavier, but I managed to dump it all out down by the marsh (I didn't figure the salt would hurt the salt marsh), and took the mechanical thingie apart to see how it worked. Basically a flow meter timer sort of thing that does the back flushing of the salt tank to clear out the crap the salt collects, once it reaches the activation point. I don't know if any particular manufacturer would have any particular innovations on that thing, they seem to be your basic electromechanical sort of controller that does the one job. The tank looks useful for something, and I used the salt can to make a water level when I was putting in my addition deck to get it all leveled (and the surveyor said I was only off 1/8 over the 32ft! -- yay for Egyptian technology!). --R On 10/21/11 11:09 AM, LWB250 wrote: http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100298 Got this device in my new house which has absolutely (and I mean it!) no identifying information on it anywhere. I have been over every square inch of it, and not a manufacturer's name, model number, nada. I am assuming it's a water softener, as it has a timer with a consumption wheel that counts down from 2200 gallons, at which time it recycles. The same knob has a Backflush and a Recycle position as well. There is a reservoir next to it that was empty when I moved in, but for the heck of it I filled it with a couple of 40 pound bags of softener salt and set it to recycle. If anyone can identify this thing I would appreciate it. When I have time (ha!) I may crack open the timer box and see if there is anything in there that might identify the maker. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
http://www.blackbookusa.com/ http://www.nadaguides.com/ 2 different companies Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Nada and Black Book are 2 different things/companies. What do they call the NADA 'Collector's Car Guide'? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stubborn fuel leak - W123 300TD main fuel filter housing
Find a used one that's not cracked. Local pick-n-pull, remove yourself and you'll be trained to install it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Max, I may not have stretched the bolt BUT there is a hairline crack in the side of the aluminum housing of the fuel filter assembly!! Assuming this is the source of the leak, what's involved in replacing it? Rusty - is the 1985 assembly different from the 1983? Andrew On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: He may have already stretched the center bolt, might need to replace it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: None of these should be super tight. The fact that you believe you have to overtorque the center bolt indicates that your problem is at the center bolt. Put new orings on it and find/make a new copper or aluminum washer for the center bolt. As for the input and output banjo fittings, order new washers for them. Without looking up the spec, you tighten them untill you feel them crush. That is when the wrench turns, but the resistance is constant. It is only about 20-25 ft-lb if I had to guess. Center bolt is maybe 30-35 ft-lb The two tiny rubber rings on the center bolt appear to be OK, and as I wrote, there is no fuel trickling down from underneath the bolt head. Hey Allan, regarding the hollow bolts on the input and output of the filter housing - I have never touched these before. Are they torqued as super tight(ly) as the center bolt on the filter housing? Were they to leak, would the fuel pool up in the shallow depression atop the filter housing?? I may not have mentioned that diesel is visible around the rim of the top of the filter, but this appears to be a result of leaking down from above rather than an upwelling due to improper seal with the canister housing. In a worst case scenario, whAt's involved in replacing the entire fuel filter housing? Andrew 1985 and 1983 300TDs (one leaks, one doesn't) _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stubborn fuel leak - W123 300TD main fuel filter housing
Also, new washers/O-rings would be a good idea. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Find a used one that's not cracked. Local pick-n-pull, remove yourself and you'll be trained to install it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Max, I may not have stretched the bolt BUT there is a hairline crack in the side of the aluminum housing of the fuel filter assembly!! Assuming this is the source of the leak, what's involved in replacing it? Rusty - is the 1985 assembly different from the 1983? Andrew On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: He may have already stretched the center bolt, might need to replace it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: None of these should be super tight. The fact that you believe you have to overtorque the center bolt indicates that your problem is at the center bolt. Put new orings on it and find/make a new copper or aluminum washer for the center bolt. As for the input and output banjo fittings, order new washers for them. Without looking up the spec, you tighten them untill you feel them crush. That is when the wrench turns, but the resistance is constant. It is only about 20-25 ft-lb if I had to guess. Center bolt is maybe 30-35 ft-lb The two tiny rubber rings on the center bolt appear to be OK, and as I wrote, there is no fuel trickling down from underneath the bolt head. Hey Allan, regarding the hollow bolts on the input and output of the filter housing - I have never touched these before. Are they torqued as super tight(ly) as the center bolt on the filter housing? Were they to leak, would the fuel pool up in the shallow depression atop the filter housing?? I may not have mentioned that diesel is visible around the rim of the top of the filter, but this appears to be a result of leaking down from above rather than an upwelling due to improper seal with the canister housing. In a worst case scenario, whAt's involved in replacing the entire fuel filter housing? Andrew 1985 and 1983 300TDs (one leaks, one doesn't) _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
Didn't know that. I just assumed they were both done by the NADA. Learn something new every day... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://www.blackbookusa.com/ http://www.nadaguides.com/ 2 different companies Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Nada and Black Book are 2 different things/companies. What do they call the NADA 'Collector's Car Guide'? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
Thanks, Rich. Pretty much what I figured, just odd that there are no manufacturer's information on either the timer or valve. It appears to be working. The city water here isn't that hard, so I can't really tell a difference. Guess it can't hurt anything... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had one of those sitting next to the old well pump, and took it out and took it apart to see how it worked. The tank was heavy as hell with the stuff (the little balls that collect the nasty stuff and water in it), and the salt bin was just like a big plastic trash can with some piping, and it was heavier, but I managed to dump it all out down by the marsh (I didn't figure the salt would hurt the salt marsh), and took the mechanical thingie apart to see how it worked. Basically a flow meter timer sort of thing that does the back flushing of the salt tank to clear out the crap the salt collects, once it reaches the activation point. I don't know if any particular manufacturer would have any particular innovations on that thing, they seem to be your basic electromechanical sort of controller that does the one job. The tank looks useful for something, and I used the salt can to make a water level when I was putting in my addition deck to get it all leveled (and the surveyor said I was only off 1/8 over the 32ft! -- yay for Egyptian technology!). --R On 10/21/11 11:09 AM, LWB250 wrote: http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100298 Got this device in my new house which has absolutely (and I mean it!) no identifying information on it anywhere. I have been over every square inch of it, and not a manufacturer's name, model number, nada. I am assuming it's a water softener, as it has a timer with a consumption wheel that counts down from 2200 gallons, at which time it recycles. The same knob has a Backflush and a Recycle position as well. There is a reservoir next to it that was empty when I moved in, but for the heck of it I filled it with a couple of 40 pound bags of softener salt and set it to recycle. If anyone can identify this thing I would appreciate it. When I have time (ha!) I may crack open the timer box and see if there is anything in there that might identify the maker. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned
A common practice in many countries, too, and just second or third world ones. In many Asian countries it is not uncommon for the guest to bring a gift for the host. When I did business in Japan I kept my local liquor store quite busy stocking Johnny Walker Black for my trips. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:19 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Allan, Jim, I worked for an oil company in the 70's when our gov't passed a law making it illegal to bribe foreign officials in order to get business. This oil company ran afoul of the law for bribing the oil minister in Nigeria to do business. Now if anyone cared to look, you didn't do business in Nigeria for oil unless you bribed the oil minister. Anyway, I think the US politicians wanted the bribe money to stay in the US and be given to them as campaign contributions or whatever you want to call it. We, USA, always tries to impose Western morality on other countries and it rarely works. I'm still waiting to see what's going to happen with Egypt, Iraq, and now Libya. Sudden changes are not always that great...seems we never hear about South Africa anymore...all must be well there. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB to produce another model at Tuscaloosa
Daimler has said that it will further expand its US plant in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. From 2015, an entirely new - unidentified - Mercedes-Benz model will roll off the production line as its fifth product. The plant has been the traditional production site of the brand's M-, GL-, and R-Class SUVs and will also build the C-Class for the North American market beginning 2014. For the production of the new model, Daimler said it will additionally invest US$ 350 million, and will create some 400 further jobs at the plant. Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of the Daimler Board of Management and Head of Mercedes-Benz Cars said: This new model from the Tuscaloosa plant is an important element of our growth strategy. It is one of the ten additional models which we will introduce within the next four years alone across all segments. Referring to the Tuscaloosa plant's role within the global production network of Mercedes-Benz Cars, Zetsche added: At the same time, we are systematically broadening our manufacturing footprint in the NAFTA region. Robert Bentley, Governor of the State of Alabama said: Since the time Mercedes-Benz chose Tuscaloosa County for its first US assembly plant 18 years ago, the company has proven to be an outstanding partner for the state. We join MBUSI in celebrating this milestone, and welcome the hundreds of jobs this announcement brings to Alabama. Earlier this year, on the occasion of the Job #1 ceremony of the new Mercedes-Benz M-Class in July, Daimler announced the decision to invest more than US$2 billion in the Tuscaloosa plant (Mercedes-Benz U.S. International - MBUSI). In total, investment in the plant between 2010 and 2014 will thus amount to US$2.4 billion, while the number of newly created jobs will add up to 1,400. Markus Schaefer, President and CEO of MBUSI, commented on these decisions: The entire MBUSI team is proud of its role in the success of the models made in Tuscaloosa. We are looking forward to making further important contributions to the product offensive of Mercedes-Benz. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Following GPS directions....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-15358886 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Citric H+
For what this is worth, this may be a convenient source of citric acid for your coolant system cleaning/flushing: http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1366801kw=citric+acidorigkw=citric+acidsearchId=53106054424 G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned
I went to Tokyo once with a coupla colleagues, one night they decided they wanted some booze so we all went looking fo a likka sto, bought some Jack Daniels that ended up being cheaper than it was back home in Taxachussetts. Go figure. --R On 10/21/11 2:25 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: A common practice in many countries, too, and just second or third world ones. In many Asian countries it is not uncommon for the guest to bring a gift for the host. When I did business in Japan I kept my local liquor store quite busy stocking Johnny Walker Black for my trips. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:19 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Allan, Jim, I worked for an oil company in the 70's when our gov't passed a law making it illegal to bribe foreign officials in order to get business. This oil company ran afoul of the law for bribing the oil minister in Nigeria to do business. Now if anyone cared to look, you didn't do business in Nigeria for oil unless you bribed the oil minister. Anyway, I think the US politicians wanted the bribe money to stay in the US and be given to them as campaign contributions or whatever you want to call it. We, USA, always tries to impose Western morality on other countries and it rarely works. I'm still waiting to see what's going to happen with Egypt, Iraq, and now Libya. Sudden changes are not always that great...seems we never hear about South Africa anymore...all must be well there. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Airplane pr0n
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:08:06 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Amazing how the tail (empennage) surfaces still look like a B-47 of mid to late 40's design. True, but the wings certainly do not! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric H+
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:07 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: For what this is worth, this may be a convenient source of citric acid for your coolant system cleaning/flushing: http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1366801kw=citric+acidorigkw=citric+acidsearchId=53106054424 Looks like a good deal and convenient too---I have two Ace Hardwares within 10 miles of my house---as long as it contains only pure citric acid and not any other crap that would clog the coolant passages, etc. I hear a lot of people recommending that you buy the food-grade stuff available at home-brewing supply shops just to be on the safe side. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:22:18 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: It appears to be working. The city water here isn't that hard, so I can't really tell a difference. Guess it can't hurt anything... To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com It WILL raise you blood sodium level because of the salt in the softened water. If that's not a medical problem for you, have at it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned
That about covers it. And these foreign bribes are significantly different then meals, trips and campaign donations by Political actions committees who would never consider trying to influence a member of government with said gifts. Just Saying. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the USA over bribes paid in eastern europe. Why the USA would care, or have any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to me. We have federal laws against bribing foreign officials, including countries where it is impossible to do business without greasing the proper palm. Just a small part of the USA government's efforts to appoint itself the planet's chief of police. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] It's home now
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: How much to buy it back? $170.72 Surely it can be fixed fairly easily Not according to the body shop. The fellow had his assistant raise the right front on a jack and showed me that the attachment for the right lower control arm was bent backward so the sub-frame would have to be replaced, which would require removing the engine. The estimate includes $2275.35 of parts, including, - Right lower control arm $490.00 - Right strut $294.00 - Right knuckle $350.00 - Suspension crossmember$590.00 It also includes, - 13.5 hours of body labor $634.50 - 9.3 hours of paint labor $437.10 - 11.7 hours of mechanical labor$877.50 - 6.0 hours of frame labor $450.00 - 9.3 hours of paint supplies $279.00 plus tax for a grand total of $5359.01. I went to the body shop in Santa Fe with Shirley (and Ori :-) ) in the '95 E320 and talked with the owner of the shop. After showing me the damage, he had his assistant swap the left front wheel of the '95 E320 (the more worn of the '95's front tires) with the right front of the '94 E420. With a more worn tire, there was more clearance at the back of the '94's wheel well. We took off (Shirley in the '95 and me in the '94) and I noticed the tire rubbed when I put on the brakes. So I pulled off the road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just behind the right front wheel well, and then banged the metal about 1/2 further back. I then swapped the other front wheels so both of the 16 winter tires would be on the front of the '95 and we took off again. We drove the 43 miles home on back roads (a very pretty drive along Bishop's Lodge Road) with no problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:30:55 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Is $3778 the car's replacement value, or the check they'll write after deductible? The check they will write after the deductible. Thanks for pointing that out; I had forgotten about it. That would make their offer $4028. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned
If it was MBUSI, then DOJ has a say, because it is a US COMPANY I can see where they would have to make certain accommodations to get ML, R and other US made vehicles into the eastern bloc countries. The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the USA over bribes paid in eastern europe. Why the USA would care, or have any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
Craig wrote: It WILL raise you blood sodium level because of the salt in the softened water. If that's not a medical problem for you, have at it. 1. I drink unsoftened water from a separate tap, doesn't everybody? 2. The sodium in a gallon of water from an ion exchange softener is less than the average person consumes from other sources in a day. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
Craig wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: How much to buy it back? $170.72 So if you take their settlement offer, you get what you were going to ask for the car, plus you get to keep the car? I don't see why you would remove the engine to swap the subframe. Wouldn't you just suspend the body on tall jack stands, suspend the engine from a chain fall, unbolt everything, and slide out the complete suspension? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
On 21/10/2011 4:04 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Craig wrote: It WILL raise you blood sodium level because of the salt in the softened water. If that's not a medical problem for you, have at it. 1. I drink unsoftened water from a separate tap, doesn't everybody? 2. The sodium in a gallon of water from an ion exchange softener is less than the average person consumes from other sources in a day. Mitch. ___ But, it will also make you thirsty so you keep drinking more of it. Better to drink the unsoftened water. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
On 21/10/2011 4:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Craig wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: How much to buy it back? $170.72 So if you take their settlement offer, you get what you were going to ask for the car, plus you get to keep the car? Unfortunately, you also get an insurance claim out of the deal. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
Randy Bennell wrote: Unfortunately, you also get an insurance claim out of the deal. Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
Sounds like it's good to go. Who needs a body shop? --R On 10/21/11 4:50 PM, Craig wrote: So I pulled off the road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just behind the right front wheel well, and then banged the metal about 1/2 further back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:04:11 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: 1. I drink unsoftened water from a separate tap, doesn't everybody? Since I have never had a softener, I didn't think about that. Of course, it depends on how your house is plumbed. 2. The sodium in a gallon of water from an ion exchange softener is less than the average person consumes from other sources in a day. I thought it was a significant contribution. I stand corrected. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric H+
That's what I used this summer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: For what this is worth, this may be a convenient source of citric acid for your coolant system cleaning/flushing: http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1366801kw=citric+acidorigkw=citric+acidsearchId=53106054424 G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
Craig wrote: I thought it was a significant contribution. I stand corrected. Significant with respect to the recommended daily allowance? Hmm, maybe I should at least attempt to do the math. Grains of hardness is grains of calcium per gallon of water, isn't it? Since 23 grains of sodium displace 40 grains of calcium, then we're looking at 17 grains of sodium to replace the typical (where I live) 30 grains of hardness. I'm getting over a gram of sodium per gallon, around 1100 milligrams. That does eclipse the usual 10mg/liter found in soda pop, but very few people drink a gallon of tap water in a day. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?
I do in the summer, sometimes more. --R On 10/21/11 5:47 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: very few people drink a gallon of tap water in a day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
So it drove home under it's own power. Can't be that bad Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: How much to buy it back? $170.72 Surely it can be fixed fairly easily Not according to the body shop. The fellow had his assistant raise the right front on a jack and showed me that the attachment for the right lower control arm was bent backward so the sub-frame would have to be replaced, which would require removing the engine. The estimate includes $2275.35 of parts, including, - Right lower control arm$490.00 - Right strut$294.00 - Right knuckle$350.00 - Suspension crossmember$590.00 It also includes, - 13.5 hours of body labor$634.50 - 9.3 hours of paint labor$437.10 - 11.7 hours of mechanical labor$877.50 - 6.0 hours of frame labor$450.00 - 9.3 hours of paint supplies$279.00 plus tax for a grand total of $5359.01. I went to the body shop in Santa Fe with Shirley (and Ori :-) ) in the '95 E320 and talked with the owner of the shop. After showing me the damage, he had his assistant swap the left front wheel of the '95 E320 (the more worn of the '95's front tires) with the right front of the '94 E420. With a more worn tire, there was more clearance at the back of the '94's wheel well. We took off (Shirley in the '95 and me in the '94) and I noticed the tire rubbed when I put on the brakes. So I pulled off the road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just behind the right front wheel well, and then banged the metal about 1/2 further back. I then swapped the other front wheels so both of the 16 winter tires would be on the front of the '95 and we took off again. We drove the 43 miles home on back roads (a very pretty drive along Bishop's Lodge Road) with no problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:12:43 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: Unfortunately, you also get an insurance claim out of the deal. Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report. CLUE report? Why is that better? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:41:30 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: So it drove home under it's own power. Can't be that bad Other than the right side of the front bumper, the air dam, and the right front suspension, it's just fine. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
Craig wrote; Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report. CLUE report? Why is that better?1 It's not. He is using irony/sarcasm. CLUE stands for Comprehensive Loss Underwriting Exchange report. Shared information about your insurance history, much like a credit report is for the credit industry. I believe you are entitled to one free report a year, same as credit reports. Personalreports.lexisnexis.com is the link I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
Craig wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:12:43 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report. CLUE report? http://oci.wi.gov/pub_list/pi-207.htm Why is that better? Perhaps I should have said 'it gets worse'? Other than the right side of the front bumper, the air dam, and the right front suspension, it's just fine. I was thinking you could rebuild it, then I remembered you're good at engine swaps. Now I think you need to find a rustfree 123 chassis and stick your $170 V8 drivetrain in it. I'm still shocked that they'd let you keep it for less than half the meltdown value. Usually they want 20-35% of the appraisal, or a minimum of $800 in your case. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Now I think you need to find a rustfree 123 chassis and stick your $170 V8 drivetrain in it. Probably easier to find a 300E with a bad head gasket, and certainly an easier swap. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
There is a fairly nice 300E sitting at the mech up the road, has been there for quite some time, some sort of engine trouble I think. Probably get a good deal on it. --R On 10/21/11 10:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Now I think you need to find a rustfree 123 chassis and stick your $170 V8 drivetrain in it. Probably easier to find a 300E with a bad head gasket, and certainly an easier swap. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
Aircraft mechanic's motto: If it won't go, get a bigger hammer. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's home now Sounds like it's good to go. Who needs a body shop? --R On 10/21/11 4:50 PM, Craig wrote: So I pulled off the road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just behind the right front wheel well, and then banged the metal about 1/2 further back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's home now
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:55:29 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I'm still shocked that they'd let you keep it for less than half the meltdown value. I was astounded by the number, too. I asked about it saying, You mean the salvage value is $171? The lady said that's what they (people from a different department) told us. It made the decision to keep it quite easy. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
