Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
For the best deals on refurb Thinkpads (as well as new ones), make friends with someone who works for IBM or a subsidiary---their employee purchase program is a great perk of working there. I believe a list member or former list member is retired from IBM. Angelo perhaps? He posted a site with user name and password a few years ago. I will look in my archives and see if I still have the email... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
Have you tried walking or public transit? A vehicle is a luxury for the better off, it's got wheels, it's gonna cost you money, stop whining. Hendrik who is always paying to keep machines working I understand that part. However, I need at least one of them to be reliable through the winter as well and I really dislike paying for repairs in a shop. I'm frugal! (when it comes to labour at any rate) Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] scam?
AHHHhhh now the mystery is revealed and we know why the beautiful car is up for sale A blond upkeep payment is needed.. I was just over at the blond board and the guys were complaining about the useful service life issues and the terrible replacement parts cost. To say nothing of the depreciation schedule. Come to think of it, the last blond I knew, had a recall issue straight from the dealer. Time to go read the cash for clunkers bill for fine print,,, maybe it covers high mileage blonds for a rebate, I know several in Congress have needed a bailout from a blond. Come to think of it,,, my last blond had an uncommanded start and runaround issue the factory never could get fixed. Still making payments on that one even after the Lemon Law court case was won. :))) Grant... AZ... Where diesel cars can roam free... On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: The upkeep, on the blond will be much more than the car! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 11/14/2011 6:43 PM, G Mann wrote: Comes with the blond in the pic? I'll take it!! Mea... must be a scam, car is way to pretty. On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: http://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/2634726864.htmlhttp://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/**2634726864.html http://jxn.**craigslist.org/cto/2634726864.**htmlhttp://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/2634726864.html VIN # 12004096, 4,497 miles, 6 - Cyl. 1968 Mercedes 250sl California Special Roadster with 104497 original miles. $8000 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9 not mine
Euro interiors with cloth or velour seats are a real turnoff to me, and the wood veneers are really cheap looking when worn. Also, they rust and are not IMO particularly attractive cars. Still, if thie 6.9 is your bag then it seems like a good deal if you want to drive/restore over a period of years.. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:11 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2703009012.html no affiliation or interest. clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
Wow that was harsh! Or funny, if you had provided a wink emoticon On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: Have you tried walking or public transit? A vehicle is a luxury for the better off, it's got wheels, it's gonna cost you money, stop whining. Hendrik who is always paying to keep machines working I understand that part. However, I need at least one of them to be reliable through the winter as well and I really dislike paying for repairs in a shop. I'm frugal! (when it comes to labour at any rate) Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
The Car is a Harsh Mistress --R On 11/15/11 9:00 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Wow that was harsh! Or funny, if you had provided a wink emoticon On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Hendrik Fayheni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: Have you tried walking or public transit? A vehicle is a luxury for the better off, it's got wheels, it's gonna cost you money, stop whining. Hendrik who is always paying to keep machines working I understand that part. However, I need at least one of them to be reliable through the winter as well and I really dislike paying for repairs in a shop. I'm frugal! (when it comes to labour at any rate) Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] transmission fluid change
Should transmission fluid be drained hot, or does it matter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] scam?
'Nother ATTABOY for this article. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] scam? AHHHhhh now the mystery is revealed and we know why the beautiful car is up for sale A blond upkeep payment is needed.. I was just over at the blond board and the guys were complaining about the useful service life issues and the terrible replacement parts cost. To say nothing of the depreciation schedule. Come to think of it, the last blond I knew, had a recall issue straight from the dealer. Time to go read the cash for clunkers bill for fine print,,, maybe it covers high mileage blonds for a rebate, I know several in Congress have needed a bailout from a blond. Come to think of it,,, my last blond had an uncommanded start and runaround issue the factory never could get fixed. Still making payments on that one even after the Lemon Law court case was won. :))) Grant... AZ... Where diesel cars can roam free... On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: The upkeep, on the blond will be much more than the car! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 11/14/2011 6:43 PM, G Mann wrote: Comes with the blond in the pic? I'll take it!! Mea... must be a scam, car is way to pretty. On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: http://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/2634726864.htmlhttp://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/**2634726864.html http://jxn.**craigslist.org/cto/2634726864.**htmlhttp://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/2634726864.html VIN # 12004096, 4,497 miles, 6 - Cyl. 1968 Mercedes 250sl California Special Roadster with 104497 original miles. $8000 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
I'm in this school of thought. The purchase price of most of my cars is small enough that it doesn't matter compared to the upkeep and initial fixing. Once I am bored with it, let it go. Normally I get about what I paid a couple years earlier. Wife is in the opposite school of thought. She sees no reason to ever change cars unless the current one becomes so unpleasant to drive that it is annoying. Oddly enough - outside of being totally unreliable, reliability doesn't seem to be an issue to her, just so long as the unreliability is predictable. Her rule is Air, Power Steering and Auto Tranny. Outside of that anything goes. Her tolerance for my toys is high - (good thing) and her only founding automotive principle is that all payments must be avoided and non running cars are limited to parts to be removed and the shell\ has to be sent on. I enjoy tinkering so I get a new old car every couple of years - fix it up a little here and there - trying to keep it as cheap as possible. My communte i about 25K a year so it doesn't take long to get them pretty reliable, and then I pass them on to someone else. I'm only on my second Mercedes and I still own both of them. Peter On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:44 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: For me, the time to abandon a car is when I don't want to fix it anymore. It's just that simple. The old cars area as much a hobby as they are transportation. We've owned two new cars over the years - a '74 Opel that my wife purchased a few months before we met, and the '97 van that we bought for her after many cold winters in a '78 VW bus. As I look back on all the cars, the two that we bought new have been the most reliable and have needed the least maintenance. Perhaps that's luck, perhaps it's that I do all the maintenance on them. I'm about to enter a new hobby, and am re-thinking my older MBs -- and wondering if the advice an old indie used to give his customers when they asked what car should I buy? - he told them to buy a new MB and drive it the rest of their life (I don't know if that's the car's or the owner's life). I don't want to have to work on a car when I could be working on the Tailwind. A new TDI is under consideration, but I hate to not have an MB - so the cheapest C class is also in consideration. I do wish they sold the C class in the US with a CDI engine --- On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I have no problem with conserving a nice car but don't tell me you can't drive it in the winter, thats lame. I've been driving diesels for the last 8 years, the newest was an '85, also an '84 and '83 and now a '78 which I'm daily driving right now because my '84 needs a carrier bearing. You COULD drive your car, plug in the block heater and it'll be warm enough to start in an hour or two, synthetic oil would help but is not required, the last winter I drove my '83 I used conventional oil. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:59:28 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A lost cause? Message-ID: 4ec18f40.3050...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 14/11/2011 3:37 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Harumph, this is what block heaters are for... -Curt My car is too old and too nice to subject it to our winters. And, the old diesels do not start like the newer ones when it gets really cold. Double batteries might help but even then, I believe I might have issues that are best avoided. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission fluid change
I never heard that before! Anyway, it doesn't get all THAT hot does it? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Should transmission fluid be drained hot, or does it matter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission fluid change
Meaning, should I drain it cold or is it better to drive around until the fluid is fully warmed up before draining? I always drain engine oil hot, but transmission fluid seems thinner so I'm not sure it matters as much. Also since I'll be cleaning the pan maybe it's better to drain it cold and not stir up any dirt that's settled to the bottom of the pan. Allan andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: I never heard that before! Anyway, it doesn't get all THAT hot does it? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Should transmission fluid be drained hot, or does it matter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission fluid change
Sure it does. The radiator uses hot coolant to cool the trans fluid so it would have to be getting pretty hot. Mike On Nov 15, 2011 9:45 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I never heard that before! Anyway, it doesn't get all THAT hot does it? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Should transmission fluid be drained hot, or does it matter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission fluid change
I always do transmissions cold. Hot oil is just too hot to bathe in if you happen to spill it all over yourself. Mike On Nov 15, 2011 9:50 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Meaning, should I drain it cold or is it better to drive around until the fluid is fully warmed up before draining? I always drain engine oil hot, but transmission fluid seems thinner so I'm not sure it matters as much. Also since I'll be cleaning the pan maybe it's better to drain it cold and not stir up any dirt that's settled to the bottom of the pan. Allan andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: I never heard that before! Anyway, it doesn't get all THAT hot does it? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Should transmission fluid be drained hot, or does it matter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
.5% I was wrong before it was 9700 miles... Highest soot load I'd encountered with my previous '85 190D was .8% after 10,800 miles. The engine in that car was really dirty when I first got it (high iron, chromium, sodium, and aluminum. That seemed to clean up after 3 or 4 oil changes and they stayed normal. The engine in the car ran good and started easy even in the cold. One thing I noticed today that I hadn't noticed before is that some of my old data was for 15w50 and the 5w40 had a MUCH higher concentration of magnesium this was true in '07 too... -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:07:54 -0500 From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone? Message-ID: db2acb46-b31b-442a-adf4-902994c39...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: For M1 5w40 the last analysis results from my '84 190D seem to refute any changes in that oil. With 9,000 miles on the oil the results are so close to results from 2006-2007 tests on my '85 190D to be essentially the same. Especially for the important wear protectors like zinc and phosphorus. And the soot level is? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Highest soot load I'd encountered with my previous '85 190D was .8% after 10,800 miles. The engine in that car was really dirty when I first got it (high iron, chromium, sodium, and aluminum. That seemed to clean up after 3 or 4 oil changes and they stayed normal. Who does your oil analysis? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
Our buddy (and list member) LarryT, www.youroil.net Get the suction bottles and its easy as pie. Worst thing thats ever happened to me is I had a cap that didn't fit right, I just glued that bottle shut, no problems. I figure its cheap enough if I get to run the oil 12k+ miles and get some piece of mind that the oil is fine. I also get a look inside the engine. -Curt Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:09:55 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone? Message-ID: m1ipmlcqp8@140-182-148-180.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Highest soot load I'd encountered with my previous '85 190D was .8% after 10,800 miles. The engine in that car was really dirty when I first got it (high iron, chromium, sodium, and aluminum. That seemed to clean up after 3 or 4 oil changes and they stayed normal. Who does your oil analysis? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
How cold does it get where you are? Randy On 14/11/2011 7:55 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I have no problem with conserving a nice car but don't tell me you can't drive it in the winter, thats lame. I've been driving diesels for the last 8 years, the newest was an '85, also an '84 and '83 and now a '78 which I'm daily driving right now because my '84 needs a carrier bearing. You COULD drive your car, plug in the block heater and it'll be warm enough to start in an hour or two, synthetic oil would help but is not required, the last winter I drove my '83 I used conventional oil. -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:59:28 -0600 From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A lost cause? Message-ID:4ec18f40.3050...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 14/11/2011 3:37 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Harumph, this is what block heaters are for... -Curt My car is too old and too nice to subject it to our winters. And, the old diesels do not start like the newer ones when it gets really cold. Double batteries might help but even then, I believe I might have issues that are best avoided. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WW Fluid Pump Power -- W124 -- '91 300D 2.5T
Howdy - The WW Pump stopped working – don’t seem to be getting any power to the pump connection – fuses are all good (I replace them every few years) – need some suggestion of where to look next... I am really hoping the turn signal switch has not gone bad – because of the price With winter coming we’ll probably need it - TIA - LarryT ‘91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission fluid change
Ah yes, the red, warm slick shower... Brings back memories. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: I always do transmissions cold. Hot oil is just too hot to bathe in if you happen to spill it all over yourself. Mike On Nov 15, 2011 9:50 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Meaning, should I drain it cold or is it better to drive around until the fluid is fully warmed up before draining? I always drain engine oil hot, but transmission fluid seems thinner so I'm not sure it matters as much. Also since I'll be cleaning the pan maybe it's better to drain it cold and not stir up any dirt that's settled to the bottom of the pan. Allan andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: I never heard that before! Anyway, it doesn't get all THAT hot does it? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Should transmission fluid be drained hot, or does it matter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
Well, Hendrik is in Oz where it does not get so cold as here. In the dead of winter, I am essentially unable or unwilling to do much for myself. We sometimes get 2 or 3 weeks where the temperature does not get about minus 30C. That puts stress on a vehicle and is a common time to have issues. I used to suck it up and carry on with smaller jobs but I am getting old and less inclined to do it. I remember replacing a thermostat in my wife's 86 Taurus when it was minus 30 something C. I had a lamp over my hands to keep them from freezing. The bolts were small and corroded but I managed to get them out without breaking them with a propane torch and some penetrating oil. I know I should finish insulating my garage and that would permit me to do some things if I had to. Unfortunately, I am on a small city lot and my garage is really too small for major things anyway. The cars fit but my truck is almost too tall. If I had to jack it up much, I would run out of room quickly. I would also have to move my 300D out into the cold and it would need to be pushed around as I would not likely get it going unless I heated the garage with it in there and then opened the big door to get it out. Pushing it around when there is snow on the lane would not be easy either. Maybe even not doable. My wife would also have to park on the street for the duration of the repair. I have too much stuff in the garage now and there would hardly be room to move around the vehicle in any event. I need a bigger garage but do not have land space for it. I have been in this house for 30 years and have no plans to move so I am stuck in that regard. I do hope to clear enough space in my basement to move a metal lathe and a mill into the house in due course. I did insulate most of the garage walls a couple of years ago and installed a new insulated overhead door, but I still need to do the ceiling which is the bigger job and the more important one in cold weather. If I put my construction heater on, I just melt the snow off of the roof. The garage is 22X24 and has a steep pitched roof which permits some storage above the cars. My practice for many years was to have 2 drivable vehicles for my wife and I, and an old pickup truck that served as a backup. One of the vehicles was usually reasonably new and the other, older. For close to 10 years, about 1991 to 2001, I drove an 86 Suburban - 2WD. My wife had the 86 Taurus, and then a 97 Sable during that time. If one of them suffered a problem, one of us, usually me, drove the old truck until I got the daily vehicle repaired. In more recent years, (about the last 10) I have driven a 95 4Runner, and then a 98 F150, and then my current 02 F150 in winter (and most of the rest of the time too). For about the past 5 years or so, I have also had the 300D available to me in the warmer months - roughly April through October. Yesterday, late afternoon, I left the office about 4:30 and drove around on a dirt road close by in 4WD to warm the oil in the front diff and then went home and changed it. It needed it - quite dirty looking. I know I have not done it since I got the truck and feel bad about that. I had a bit of a struggle to do it. The plugs were reluctant to come out and I did not have a whole lot of room to lever them. If it was on a hoist, it likely would be easy but laying on the ground under the truck made it a bit difficult. I could have put an impact on the drain as it was accessible but the fill plug was not and I did not want to drain until I was sure I could re-fill. The thing is also aluminum and I wondered it it was a bad idea to use the impact. In any event I did get them out and refilled the diff. I feel good about that. I also did the transfer case on the weekend. It too was a little bit difficult due to close quarters. Partly my own fault as I did not jack the truck up. There was enough room to slide under without jacking. It needed it too. I still need to do the transmission but may send it to work with my mechanic son and have him do it at their shop. I bought the filter and the oil in the fall but did not get it done before the weather turrned colder here. Might warm enough to do it outside yet but was minus 5 C this morning and is supposed to be more like minus 10 to 15C by Thursday. I did change the tranny fluid and filter about 3 years ago but that would be 35K miles back so it should have been done this past summer. Randy in Winnipeg where it is cold and who needs to get back to work On 15/11/2011 8:00 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Wow that was harsh! Or funny, if you had provided a wink emoticon On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Hendrik Fayheni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: Have you tried walking or public transit? A vehicle is a luxury for the better off, it's got wheels, it's gonna cost you money, stop whining. Hendrik who is always paying to keep machines working I understand that part. However, I need at least
Re: [MBZ] transmission fluid change
You are not supposed to bathe in it! Randy On 15/11/2011 8:55 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: I always do transmissions cold. Hot oil is just too hot to bathe in if you happen to spill it all over yourself. Mike On Nov 15, 2011 9:50 AM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Meaning, should I drain it cold or is it better to drive around until the fluid is fully warmed up before draining? I always drain engine oil hot, but transmission fluid seems thinner so I'm not sure it matters as much. Also since I'll be cleaning the pan maybe it's better to drain it cold and not stir up any dirt that's settled to the bottom of the pan. Allan andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com writes: I never heard that before! Anyway, it doesn't get all THAT hot does it? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Should transmission fluid be drained hot, or does it matter? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
There is a marketplace for members only. You just need to register to access that forum. http://forum.thinkpads.com/ There are forums which deal with the new, the obsolescent and the truly antique. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke] On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:35:29 -0800 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I have usually purchased through thinkpads.com, also a terrific support community. Look at the feedback forum for the vendor who has what you want. Is that http://forum.thinkpads.com/ ? I don't see anything there that indicates vendors. And the main site, http://www.thinkpads.com/ , only talks about new computers (which I don't want). Did I mention how easy it is to work on these machines? Complete workshop manuals are available free online. These units are meant to be maintained and repaired, not thrown away. No, you did not, but it's nice to know. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
(According to the forum)on the T61 only the Intel GPU should be considered since the other GPU has early failure problems. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke] arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/ProductDisplay?productId=4611686018426136519storeId=1langId=-1categoryId=2576396dualCurrId=73catalogId=-840 That link offers, Lenovo™ ThinkPad® T61 (B15) Slightly blemished IBM Web Price* $325.00 So is it made in the USA or China? Craig Lenovo (Chinese company) has been making Thinkpads for years, haven't they? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
I have a couple of truly antique Thinkpads, they are at least 15 yr old, maybe a couple more. Last time I fired the oldest one up it booted up (I measured the time on the calendar) and did what it was doing back when I got it. I worked for Lotus right after it was bought by IBM, and everyone had Thinkpads. We had some personnel actions, were left in a vacuum for a few weeks, it was my estimable job to clean out an office or two I had a dock for one, with a CD and I think maybe a second HD, but my wife disposed of it one day for reasons unclear. --R On 11/15/11 12:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: There is a marketplace for members only. You just need to register to access that forum. http://forum.thinkpads.com/ There are forums which deal with the new, the obsolescent and the truly antique. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke] On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:35:29 -0800 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I have usually purchased through thinkpads.com, also a terrific support community. Look at the feedback forum for the vendor who has what you want. Is that http://forum.thinkpads.com/ ? I don't see anything there that indicates vendors. And the main site, http://www.thinkpads.com/ , only talks about new computers (which I don't want). Did I mention how easy it is to work on these machines? Complete workshop manuals are available free online. These units are meant to be maintained and repaired, not thrown away. No, you did not, but it's nice to know. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: .5% I was wrong before it was 9700 miles... Excellent! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission fluid change
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Should transmission fluid be drained hot, or does it matter? I think hot is the correct answer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Our buddy (and list member) LarryT, www.youroil.net Larry's got the best deal. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW Fluid Pump Power -- W124 -- '91 300D 2.5T
Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I am really hoping the turn signal switch has not gone bad – because of the price If the switch is the culprit, De-Oxit will probably fix it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
When the wife worked for Harley-Davidson, she got a brand new 755 or 760 ThinkPad complete with dock and all the goodies. I seem to recall that the cost was around $7k for everything. Nice machine. I bought a 760 a few years later in a surplus auction. Great machine, built like a brick doghouse. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I have a couple of truly antique Thinkpads, they are at least 15 yr old, maybe a couple more. Last time I fired the oldest one up it booted up (I measured the time on the calendar) and did what it was doing back when I got it. I worked for Lotus right after it was bought by IBM, and everyone had Thinkpads. We had some personnel actions, were left in a vacuum for a few weeks, it was my estimable job to clean out an office or two I had a dock for one, with a CD and I think maybe a second HD, but my wife disposed of it one day for reasons unclear. --R On 11/15/11 12:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: There is a marketplace for members only. You just need to register to access that forum. http://forum.thinkpads.com/ There are forums which deal with the new, the obsolescent and the truly antique. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke] On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:35:29 -0800 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I have usually purchased through thinkpads.com, also a terrific support community. Look at the feedback forum for the vendor who has what you want. Is that http://forum.thinkpads.com/ ? I don't see anything there that indicates vendors. And the main site, http://www.thinkpads.com/ , only talks about new computers (which I don't want). Did I mention how easy it is to work on these machines? Complete workshop manuals are available free online. These units are meant to be maintained and repaired, not thrown away. No, you did not, but it's nice to know. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
It doesn't matter, the block heater takes care of that for you... But since you asked back when I lived in an apartment we'd get the occasional -20F day when I'd strap the ole 240D behind the Dakota and it'd start right up after a mile or so. That was before I bought a marine battery to keep in the trunk to power my 400w inverter to run the block heater which made the car start like it was July. You can't tell me nobody in Ottawa has ever driven a diesel in the cold before. If the 400w stock block heater is overwhelmed you install a radiator hose heater, those are usually 1000w and you have instant heat when the car starts. If its really cold you could even go to the Fairbanks package where you add a battery heater. Webasto even makes a key fob activated diesel fired heater. Truckers deal with these problems all the time... -Curt Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:31:07 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A lost cause? Message-ID: 4ec293cb.8070...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed How cold does it get where you are? Randy On 14/11/2011 7:55 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I have no problem with conserving a nice car but don't tell me you can't drive it in the winter, thats lame. I've been driving diesels for the last 8 years, the newest was an '85, also an '84 and '83 and now a '78 which I'm daily driving right now because my '84 needs a carrier bearing. You COULD drive your car, plug in the block heater and it'll be warm enough to start in an hour or two, synthetic oil would help but is not required, the last winter I drove my '83 I used conventional oil. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
Yeah the 60x engines are good about that. I should pull a sample from the 240D next time I change it. I'd changed at 9700 because it was only the second oil change (first with synthetic) since I'd gotten the car. Could have gone a lot longer. I'll sample at 12,000 this time and see where we're at. At 9700 miles the car had leaked/consumed 1qt of oil and is on pace for about the same this time. -Curt Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:54:22 -0500 From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone? Message-ID: c6f80b30-a64f-4119-a983-076e86027...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: .5% I was wrong before it was 9700 miles... Excellent! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
Our buddy (and list member) LarryT, www.youroil.net Larry's got the best deal. I do know of a better deal. However, out of respect for Larry, I am not posting the link. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
I believe a list member or former list member is retired from IBM. Angelo perhaps? He posted a site with user name and password a few years ago. I will look in my archives and see if I still have the email... It was Angelo. The user name and password no longer work though. :( Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
I have a working 760El and a working 600E. They never die, wish I could say the same for their batteries... Walt On Nov 15, 2011 12:51 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I have a couple of truly antique Thinkpads, they are at least 15 yr old, maybe a couple more. Last time I fired the oldest one up it booted up (I measured the time on the calendar) and did what it was doing back when I got it. I worked for Lotus right after it was bought by IBM, and everyone had Thinkpads. We had some personnel actions, were left in a vacuum for a few weeks, it was my estimable job to clean out an office or two I had a dock for one, with a CD and I think maybe a second HD, but my wife disposed of it one day for reasons unclear. --R On 11/15/11 12:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: There is a marketplace for members only. You just need to register to access that forum. http://forum.thinkpads.com/ There are forums which deal with the new, the obsolescent and the truly antique. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-bounces@** okiebenz.com mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke] On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:35:29 -0800 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I have usually purchased through thinkpads.com, also a terrific support community. Look at the feedback forum for the vendor who has what you want. Is that http://forum.thinkpads.com/ ? I don't see anything there that indicates vendors. And the main site, http://www.thinkpads.com/ , only talks about new computers (which I don't want). Did I mention how easy it is to work on these machines? Complete workshop manuals are available free online. These units are meant to be maintained and repaired, not thrown away. No, you did not, but it's nice to know. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW Fluid Pump Power -- W124 -- '91 300D 2.5T
Thanks Max - (and thx for the good word about my oil analysis) Hmm.. that's good- do I just unplug it and coat the connections with DeOxIt and put it back together? Any need to use Dielectric Grease if DeOxIt is used? I need to open the lower panel below the steering wheel to install a new Steering Wheel Extending/Retraction switch - mine only works in one directions - got a switch from Rusty but haven't felt like doing the work - can live without the steering extension - needing to wash the Windshield during a snow storm is hard to postpone - Thx -- LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Max Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WW Fluid Pump Power -- W124 -- '91 300D 2.5T Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I am really hoping the turn signal switch has not gone bad – because of the price If the switch is the culprit, De-Oxit will probably fix it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
Hi Rick Bet you won't find a nicer guy to deal with ;-) LarryT -Original Message- From: Rick Knoble Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone? Our buddy (and list member) LarryT, www.youroil.net Larry's got the best deal. I do know of a better deal. However, out of respect for Larry, I am not posting the link. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
It would seem that an all electric car would solve several of your problems, but Consumer Reports says the Nissan Leaf, for example, would probably not do well in the winter where you live: Consumer Reports tested a Leaf loaner under cold-weather driven as a daily commuter. The average range obtained was 105 kilometres (65 mi) per charge with temperatures varying from 20 to 30 °F (-7 to -1 °C). The magazine also reported one trip under a temperature of 10 °F (?12 °C) that began with the range panel indicator showing 32 kilometres (20 mi) remaining. After 13 kilometres (8 mi) the Leaf drastically lost power and dropped its speed and continued to run slower until the last stretch was completed almost at walking speed. Consumer Reports concluded that the Leaf works as designed under cold temperatures but a more accurate range indicator is desirable.[61] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf Gerry From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Well, Hendrik is in Oz where it does not get so cold as here. In the dead of winter, I am essentially unable or unwilling to do much for myself. We sometimes get 2 or 3 weeks where the temperature does not get about minus 30C. That puts stress on a vehicle and is a common time to have issues. I used to suck it up and carry on with smaller jobs but I am getting old and less inclined to do it. I remember replacing a thermostat in my wife's 86 Taurus when it was minus 30 something C. I had a lamp over my hands to keep them from freezing. The bolts were small and corroded but I managed to get them out without breaking them with a propane torch and some penetrating oil. I know I should finish insulating my garage and that would permit me to do some things if I had to. Unfortunately, I am on a small city lot and my garage is really too small for major things anyway. The cars fit but my truck is almost too tall. If I had to jack it up much, I would run out of room quickly. I would also have to move my 300D out into the cold and it would need to be pushed around as I would not likely get it going unless I heated the garage with it in there and then opened the big door to get it out. Pushing it around when there is snow on the lane would not be easy either. Maybe even not doable. My wife would also have to park on the street for the duration of the repair. I have too much stuff in the garage now and there would hardly be room to move around the vehicle in any event. I need a bigger garage but do not have land space for it. I have been in this house for 30 years and have no plans to move so I am stuck in that regard. I do hope to clear enough space in my basement to move a metal lathe and a mill into the house in due course. I did insulate most of the garage walls a couple of years ago and installed a new insulated overhead door, but I still need to do the ceiling which is the bigger job and the more important one in cold weather. If I put my construction heater on, I just melt the snow off of the roof. The garage is 22X24 and has a steep pitched roof which permits some storage above the cars. My practice for many years was to have 2 drivable vehicles for my wife and I, and an old pickup truck that served as a backup. One of the vehicles was usually reasonably new and the other, older. For close to 10 years, about 1991 to 2001, I drove an 86 Suburban - 2WD. My wife had the 86 Taurus, and then a 97 Sable during that time. If one of them suffered a problem, one of us, usually me, drove the old truck until I got the daily vehicle repaired. In more recent years, (about the last 10) I have driven a 95 4Runner, and then a 98 F150, and then my current 02 F150 in winter (and most of the rest of the time too). For about the past 5 years or so, I have also had the 300D available to me in the warmer months - roughly April through October. Yesterday, late afternoon, I left the office about 4:30 and drove around on a dirt road close by in 4WD to warm the oil in the front diff and then went home and changed it. It needed it - quite dirty looking. I know I have not done it since I got the truck and feel bad about that. I had a bit of a struggle to do it. The plugs were reluctant to come out and I did not have a whole lot of room to lever them. If it was on a hoist, it likely would be easy but laying on the ground under the truck made it a bit difficult. I could have put an impact on the drain as it was accessible but the fill plug was not and I did not want to drain until I was sure I could re-fill. The thing is also aluminum and I wondered it it was a bad idea to use the impact. In any event I did get them out and refilled the diff. I feel good about that. I also did the transfer case on the weekend. It too was a little bit difficult due to close quarters. Partly my own fault as I did not jack the truck up. There was enough room to slide
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
I don't think I am quite that modern. I like IC engines. There are lots of Prius around here as they are used for taxi cabs. They must produce reasonable heat in the cold weather but I assume the mileage is not quite like it would be in summer. Randy On 15/11/2011 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: It would seem that an all electric car would solve several of your problems, but Consumer Reports says the Nissan Leaf, for example, would probably not do well in the winter where you live: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D wiring diagrams UPDATE AND FINITO
THE PROJECT 240D has a new ign switch from Q and a new steering lock, keys and tumblers courtesy of Curt. I am still having trouble with the steering lock binding and preventing the key from moving. BUT the glow plugs come on in the correct position, The starter comes on when twisted beyond the glow as it should. The engine starts right up, and now the alternator charges the battery! (the ign switch/steering lock assy is still hanging under the dash) SUCCESS! The remaining electrical gremlins were solved with the new ign switch. Thanks to Max, Wilton, Curt and others who assisted. I really think I am going to like this car. If I can figure out why the steering lock is balky, then I can put that in. I hope maybe next year I can do the rustoleum-roller paint job on it, fix the driver's seat, new tars, etc. Next spring it will get license and insured to run on the road. I am still trying to figure out why the starter connects before the glow. If all else fails, with the wiring diagram i can figureo ut how to trigger the glow relay manually before I turn the key to engage the starter. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain
Several days ago, I unplugged the Becker antitheft module under the cover in the pass area lower firewall area. Since then the seatbelt light overhead by the interior light has been flashing. THe big drain is gone, but the light flashing constantly seems to be running the battery down over a week. I suppose the simple thing to do is to unplug the light so it can't flash or function as designed, but that still leaves a relay and flasher that are operating somewhere. Is this likely or definitely caused by unplugging the antitheft (alarm) module? IS there any fix for this? BTW, I still have the C fuse out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Several days ago, I unplugged the Becker antitheft module under the cover in the pass area lower firewall area. Since then the seatbelt light overhead by the interior light has been flashing. THe big drain is gone, but the light flashing constantly seems to be running the battery down over a week. I suppose the simple thing to do is to unplug the light so it can't flash or function as designed, but that still leaves a relay and flasher that are operating somewhere. Is this likely or definitely caused by unplugging the antitheft (alarm) module? IS there any fix for this? BTW, I still have the C fuse out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com My '87 wagon has the anti-theft disabled, don't know how, but the seat belt warning flasher works as designed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D wiring diagrams UPDATE AND FINITO
Excellent, glad to hear you've got the electrical gremlins driven from that car. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
You beat me to it, Larry. Lower prices may be out there, but Larry's kits include everything (including paid postage mailers) and the level of service is second to none, except maybe Rusty. I've tried a couple other labs, I'm sticking with Larry. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca writes: There are lots of Prius around here as they are used for taxi cabs. They must produce reasonable heat in the cold weather but I assume the mileage is not quite like it would be in summer. A modern diesel in a similar sized car will significantly better a Prius in terms of fuel economy. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
Allan Streib wrote: A modern diesel in a similar sized car will significantly better a Prius in terms of fuel economy. ...except when stopped. The hybrids excel in situations where most drivers sit idling, or where there's a lot of stop and go. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D wiring diagrams UPDATE AND FINITO
Yeah, they migrated to the 300D! Excellent, glad to hear you've got the electrical gremlins driven from that car. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
...but I don't see any cars on the road today that have any safety advantage to W123... Surely you jest. This is a reckless and uninformed claim if I ever saw one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
I sold a '79 300D which had a low-mileage crate motor to a guy in Canada back in 2002 (for something like $1000).I heard from him a few years ago and he was still driving it. He added a webasto stationary heater, diesel fired. He said it was very expensive (compared to the price of the car), but worked perfectly to warm up the car and the engine on a timer and make starting a breeze. Jaime On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It doesn't matter, the block heater takes care of that for you... But since you asked back when I lived in an apartment we'd get the occasional -20F day when I'd strap the ole 240D behind the Dakota and it'd start right up after a mile or so. That was before I bought a marine battery to keep in the trunk to power my 400w inverter to run the block heater which made the car start like it was July. You can't tell me nobody in Ottawa has ever driven a diesel in the cold before. If the 400w stock block heater is overwhelmed you install a radiator hose heater, those are usually 1000w and you have instant heat when the car starts. If its really cold you could even go to the Fairbanks package where you add a battery heater. Webasto even makes a key fob activated diesel fired heater. Truckers deal with these problems all the time... -Curt Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:31:07 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A lost cause? Message-ID: 4ec293cb.8070...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed How cold does it get where you are? Randy On 14/11/2011 7:55 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I have no problem with conserving a nice car but don't tell me you can't drive it in the winter, thats lame. I've been driving diesels for the last 8 years, the newest was an '85, also an '84 and '83 and now a '78 which I'm daily driving right now because my '84 needs a carrier bearing. You COULD drive your car, plug in the block heater and it'll be warm enough to start in an hour or two, synthetic oil would help but is not required, the last winter I drove my '83 I used conventional oil. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
Yeah mao, thats pretty crazy... how about every Mercedes that follow the W123, starting with the W126 and W124? Jaime On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...but I don't see any cars on the road today that have any safety advantage to W123... Surely you jest. This is a reckless and uninformed claim if I ever saw one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
So why not put a Diesel in instead of a gasser, and reap the benefits of both! ;) Walt On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: A modern diesel in a similar sized car will significantly better a Prius in terms of fuel economy. ...except when stopped. The hybrids excel in situations where most drivers sit idling, or where there's a lot of stop and go. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW Fluid Pump Power -- W124 -- '91 300D 2.5T
Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hmm.. that's good- do I just unplug it and coat the connections with DeOxIt and put it back together? Any need to use Dielectric Grease if DeOxIt is used? You probably will need to get at the contacts of the switch, which may be inside the stalk or at the root of the stalk. I've not yet taken apart a 124 stalk, but a 123 stalk has a cap on the end that can be pried off. On my '95, high beam flash function was restored by spraying the contacts at the root, done in situ. No need for grease. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:37:27 -0500 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Does it really matter? Yes. So is it made in the USA or China? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 108 kmi '94 E420Oskar 123 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 265 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
I know it's not a MB but.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtLLvXrrFs Hendrik who hoes to not find out if a 124 is solid Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Yeah mao, thats pretty crazy... how about every Mercedes that follow the W123, starting with the W126 and W124? Jaime On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...but I don't see any cars on the road today that have any safety advantage to W123... Surely you jest. This is a reckless and uninformed claim if I ever saw one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
Well, I don't know if a W123 is better than a W124, but my W124 did indeed save my life four years ago. Pretty tough. Peter On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: I know it's not a MB but.. http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=emtLLvXrrFs Hendrik who hoes to not find out if a 124 is solid Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Yeah mao, thats pretty crazy... how about every Mercedes that follow the W123, starting with the W126 and W124? Jaime On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...but I don't see any cars on the road today that have any safety advantage to W123... Surely you jest. This is a reckless and uninformed claim if I ever saw one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain
I removed the anti-theft box and wiring from the '92 300D, and the seat belt lights still work normally. Did the same thing with the '87 SLD - same result. I think the gremlin has taken up residence in a new circuit. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Several days ago, I unplugged the Becker antitheft module under the cover in the pass area lower firewall area. Since then the seatbelt light overhead by the interior light has been flashing. THe big drain is gone, but the light flashing constantly seems to be running the battery down over a week. I suppose the simple thing to do is to unplug the light so it can't flash or function as designed, but that still leaves a relay and flasher that are operating somewhere. Is this likely or definitely caused by unplugging the antitheft (alarm) module? IS there any fix for this? BTW, I still have the C fuse out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com My '87 wagon has the anti-theft disabled, don't know how, but the seat belt warning flasher works as designed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next Castrol Syntec 0w-30 sale at AutoZone?
Me too. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: You beat me to it, Larry. Lower prices may be out there, but Larry's kits include everything (including paid postage mailers) and the level of service is second to none, except maybe Rusty. I've tried a couple other labs, I'm sticking with Larry. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
Ok, I know nobody cares about my $.02 worth but here I go. True story. I got into this business in September of 1977. My first sale was to an independent Mercedes repair shop named Atlanta Autohaus. The owner, Lee Romans (now deceased) owned a 1977 450SEL brand new. He was driving to North Carolina for a long weekend and was hit from behind by a 18 wheeler going 70mph. It made him flip end over end 3 times and come to rest upside down (go to Star Magazine archives to verify). When the dust settled he pushed his window switch, unbuckled his seatbelt, crawled out and walked away. That is when I bought my first Mercedes. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:26:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety I know it's not a MB but.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtLLvXrrFs Hendrik who hoes to not find out if a 124 is solid Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Yeah mao, thats pretty crazy... how about every Mercedes that follow the W123, starting with the W126 and W124? Jaime On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...but I don't see any cars on the road today that have any safety advantage to W123... Surely you jest. This is a reckless and uninformed claim if I ever saw one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
Exactly!!! Why won't they listen to us? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: So why not put a Diesel in instead of a gasser, and reap the benefits of both! ;) Walt On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: A modern diesel in a similar sized car will significantly better a Prius in terms of fuel economy. ...except when stopped. The hybrids excel in situations where most drivers sit idling, or where there's a lot of stop and go. Mitch. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
Are any laptops made anywhere other than China now? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:37:27 -0500 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Does it really matter? Yes. So is it made in the USA or China? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 108 kmi '94 E420Oskar 123 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 265 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain
seatbelt light overhead by the interior light has been flashing. As I recall, that thing flashes continuously if one of the fuses is bad. (From memory, on the SDL.) Don't remember which one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
Rusty, we do care, and love to hear stories like that. It helps justify my otherwise irrational obsession with MBs. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:12 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I know nobody cares about my $.02 worth but here I go. True story. I got into this business in September of 1977. My first sale was to an independent Mercedes repair shop named Atlanta Autohaus. The owner, Lee Romans (now deceased) owned a 1977 450SEL brand new. He was driving to North Carolina for a long weekend and was hit from behind by a 18 wheeler going 70mph. It made him flip end over end 3 times and come to rest upside down (go to Star Magazine archives to verify). When the dust settled he pushed his window switch, unbuckled his seatbelt, crawled out and walked away. That is when I bought my first Mercedes. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
Benz has made tough cars with excellent crash protection for a very long time -- I suspect the newer models are at least slightly better, but I've heard of and seen too many examples to discount even older ones. Not a bad idea to replace the seat belts if they are more than 30 years old, though. Peter On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:12 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I know nobody cares about my $.02 worth but here I go. True story. I got into this business in September of 1977. My first sale was to an independent Mercedes repair shop named Atlanta Autohaus. The owner, Lee Romans (now deceased) owned a 1977 450SEL brand new. He was driving to North Carolina for a long weekend and was hit from behind by a 18 wheeler going 70mph. It made him flip end over end 3 times and come to rest upside down (go to Star Magazine archives to verify). When the dust settled he pushed his window switch, unbuckled his seatbelt, crawled out and walked away. That is when I bought my first Mercedes. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:26:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety I know it's not a MB but.. http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=emtLLvXrrFs Hendrik who hoes to not find out if a 124 is solid Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Yeah mao, thats pretty crazy... how about every Mercedes that follow the W123, starting with the W126 and W124? Jaime On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...but I don't see any cars on the road today that have any safety advantage to W123... Surely you jest. This is a reckless and uninformed claim if I ever saw one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
No doubt they're expensive. I looked into it in about 2004 and it was around $1200 for the full install but it came with keyfob (like you'd use for a remote car starter) operation and burnt very little fuel, IIRC it could run for like 8 hours on a gallon of fuel. Probably should have bought one, could have transferred it from car to car. -Curt Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:00:13 -0500 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A lost cause? Message-ID: cacy-bajwaftqst_pwgawcrsssjhuyhv7n_f5c_gvtvepype...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I sold a '79 300D which had a low-mileage crate motor to a guy in Canada back in 2002 (for something like $1000).I heard from him a few years ago and he was still driving it. He added a webasto stationary heater, diesel fired. He said it was very expensive (compared to the price of the car), but worked perfectly to warm up the car and the engine on a timer and make starting a breeze. Jaime On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It doesn't matter, the block heater takes care of that for you... But since you asked back when I lived in an apartment we'd get the occasional -20F day when I'd strap the ole 240D behind the Dakota and it'd start right up after a mile or so. That was before I bought a marine battery to keep in the trunk to power my 400w inverter to run the block heater which made the car start like it was July. You can't tell me nobody in Ottawa has ever driven a diesel in the cold before. If the 400w stock block heater is overwhelmed you install a radiator hose heater, those are usually 1000w and you have instant heat when the car starts. If its really cold you could even go to the Fairbanks package where you add a battery heater. Webasto even makes a key fob activated diesel fired heater. Truckers deal with these problems all the time... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I know it's not a MB but.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtLLvXrrFs Hendrik who hoes to not find out if a 124 is solid Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Yeah mao, thats pretty crazy... how about every Mercedes that follow the W123, starting with the W126 and W124? Jaime On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...but I don't see any cars on the road today that have any safety advantage to W123... Surely you jest. This is a reckless and uninformed claim if I ever saw one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Thanks for that Hendrik, always fun to see some other guys car get bent for a worth-while cause. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
Why? IBM made them in china anyways. Walt On Nov 15, 2011 8:50 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:37:27 -0500 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Does it really matter? Yes. So is it made in the USA or China? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 108 kmi '94 E420Oskar 123 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 265 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
World's first series produced diesel-hybrid was just introduced by Peugeot in the form of the 3008 Hybrid4 with 200 bhp and CO2 emission as low as 99 g/km. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Diesel-Hybrid-Cars-Poised-for-Growth-in-Europe-223079.shtml Gerry The diesel powertrain produces a power output of 163 bhp and the electric motor generates an additional 37 bhp. Both powertrains are capable of running independently, which means it can run in the all-electric mode within cities and thus being a zero-emission vehicle. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Exactly!!! Why won't they listen to us? On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: So why not put a Diesel in instead of a gasser, and reap the benefits of both! ;) Walt On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: A modern diesel in a similar sized car will significantly better a Prius in terms of fuel economy. ...except when stopped. The hybrids excel in situations where most drivers sit idling, or where there's a lot of stop and go. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Why did Finnies have fins?
Watch and find out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW1wGa9wAmwfeature=related Love the airbag test. Hendrik who spends too much time utubeing it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] not for Roger
...http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/2692476812.htmlno affiliation or interest. Want a Hammer?... About like I want a root canal sans anesthetic. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] DWTV
DWTV car show mit Benz --R http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepagev=HofRcy1g2xQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
Jaime wrote: Yeah mao, thats pretty crazy... how about every Mercedes that follow the W123, starting with the W126 and W124? W216 is a larger car but not the W124 engineering is in the cage, I realize, but the safety is not any worse in W123 not that I need, anyway. The issue is in speed and awareness. Keep to posted speed and be aware. W123 is not good for mindless drivers today, but given attentiveness and care, W123 is fine, that's all. Sure, tests show better than W123 for W126 W124, I'm sure - but tests cannot beat skill and agility of driver. Idiots do not belong in a car - they belong in a cab. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [Angelo Speaks!]
Hi, Been retired from Big Blue for 2+ years now. I know we have access to some of the used/refurb thinkpads at reduced prices, but I have to check/test access again. Please contact me offline if you're interested.. Angelo Giamo..lurking alot lately. 1990 350SDL michaelangel...@gmail.com Obligatory MB content: Getting ready for tires/brakes to get thru inspection...maybe even replace the leather on the front seat. I see Rusty's got some good prices. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety
Range Rovers are pretty safe, too. I was involved in a front corner collision with my W124 when a deer crossed the road. The front corner of the W124 was crumpled to the point that the insurance company totalled it. I heard the metal crunch and my ankle was a bit sore and I was a bit spooked by the incident. The Mercedes was towed because the radiator hit the fan and it was leaking coolant. A few years later I was heading South on a 2-lane road a driver heading North decided to turn left in front of me into a restaurant parking lot because he was driving back from the airport and just wanted a steak and they have really good steaks here. I was driving my Rover at the time and hit the rear corner of his Volvo. All I could remember thinking before impact was does this guy want to having a effing accident and that's exactly what I told the trooper who investigated. I was not shaken up at all, just pissed at the other driver. I'm not sure if his Volvo was towed off, but I drove another 400-450 miles home with a damaged brush guard, fender, hood and one head light. The insurance company totalled it and I had to fight with them for weeks for them to even admit fault and make me whole. There's more to life than fuel economy. Brian On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Jaime wrote: Yeah mao, thats pretty crazy... how about every Mercedes that follow the W123, starting with the W126 and W124? W216 is a larger car but not the W124 engineering is in the cage, I realize, but the safety is not any worse in W123 not that I need, anyway. The issue is in speed and awareness. Keep to posted speed and be aware. W123 is not good for mindless drivers today, but given attentiveness and care, W123 is fine, that's all. Sure, tests show better than W123 for W126 W124, I'm sure - but tests cannot beat skill and agility of driver. Idiots do not belong in a car - they belong in a cab. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]
Lenovo Reaches Major Milestone - 60 Million ThinkPad Laptops Sold ... RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, NC - October 5, 2010: Lenovo (HKSE: 992) (ADR: LNVGY) today announced that sales of ThinkPad laptops will surpass 60 million this month. More than 14 ThinkPad laptops are now sold every 60 seconds, contributing to Lenovo's position as the fastest-growing major PC company1. Throughout its 18 year history, ThinkPad has recorded many ground-breaking innovation firsts - like the first spill resistant keyboard and protective roll cage. Today, Lenovo is still innovating and is announcing elevated graphics performance by adding NVIDIA Optimus technology on ThinkPad T410, T410s and T510 laptops. http://news.lenovo.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1377 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Are any laptops made anywhere other than China now? On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:37:27 -0500 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Does it really matter? Yes. So is it made in the USA or China? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain
Ah! that may be a good clue. It shut off this afternoon while i was driving it. came on after I shut it down. I should try putting in fuse C. seatbelt light overhead by the interior light has been flashing. As I recall, that thing flashes continuously if one of the fuses is bad. (From memory, on the SDL.) Don't remember which one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM603 Injection pump
I have a non-working IP from an OM603. (300D, 300SDL, 350SD) It is a available for parts or rebuild/recalibrate or just to take apart to see how it is built, or for other uses. Had it on fleabay for $92 including shipping. If anyone wants it make me an offer. Anybody need a small boat anchor? Anybody need a really big paperweight for your desk? Anybody want to use it for a lamp? Cam appears to be good. probably has a broken spring in the governor Has been sitting unprotected, so there is dirt in the delivery valves. Pump itself is probably ok, if you have a good governor it is fairly low mileage. ~200k miles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
