Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

[E M]

Again, no personal experience, but I think touching up, and matching new to
old is often tricky, especially with a surface like a dash, that's exposed
to sun.

A friend bought a one year old Audi A4.  The PO stuck some kind of air
freshener thing on the dash, and it left a mark.  He's in the same position
as you.  The dash isn't damaged, but there is a mark that he can't get off
with everything that he's tried.  So it's either refinish the dash (which I
think might make it look worse than just leaving it alone), or replacing
it, at $1600.  I think the glue most have pulled some of the chemicals in
the dash, to the surface.  Bummer though, with a new car.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:46, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> I have two W123 300TDs with dash issues.  One has some cracks on the
> top of the dash, and the other has four small holes where the idiot PO
> mounted some sort of plaque.  What makes him an uber-idiot is that he
> had replaced the dash and it was pristine prior to drilling those
> holes.
>
> Anyway, how good are the various blue dyes (e.g., Leatherique) in
> matching the OEM blue color on a touchup basis?  Or will I need to
> fill the cracks and holes and respray each dash in its entirety?
>
> Andrew
> 1983 and 1985 300TDs
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[E M]

I think there are several places that offer such repairs, that will come
right to your house.  I've seen the trucks around...they offer leather,
vinyl, dash, repairs.  They would probably be your best bet for getting the
colour, and texture right.  As with the guys who replace windshields at
your home, the price for the same work can really vary, so I'm sure you
could call around and get a pretty good deal on the seat.

If you want to do it yourself, you can always go to the boneyard and get
some old MBtex to experiment with, and get a feel for getting the texture
right.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:40, Craig  wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:47:36 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis
>  wrote:
>
> > Would shoe goo be a good option to repair a tear?
>
> Though it would probably function very well mechanically, getting it
> smooth and matching the Tex would be very difficult.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] WAS 110 Heresey Was: R107 heresey now Heresy

[E M]

We refer to that shade of metallic bronze, as rust, up here in Canada. ;-)
hee hee

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:39, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hendrik & Fay 
> wrote:
> > Yeah, that looks like some sort of metallic bronze, which I would not
> expect
> > on a 200D, perhaps on a S class.
> >
> > Hendrik
> > who has no vinyl on the roof
> >
> >
> > Dieselhead wrote:
> >>
> >> There were a few factory two tones.  Very few in a 110.  The top color
> may
> >> be right, but the body color is not factory.   In the early 80s, quite
> a few
> >> were uglified by installing a "vinyl top" on the roof.  (ala the period
> GM
> >> hunks o junk with 10 foot hoods and vinyl fake floptops.)
> >>
> >>> Never seen a factory two tone paint job.  Colors are all wrong.
> Something
> >>> is fishy about this car...
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[E M]

No personal experience.  I think they've just released a new 550 diesel,
which has killer torque, and pretty good fuel mileage.  The diesel 3 series
was offered here in Canada, but not sure how well it sold.  I think it sold
at a bit of a premium, which scared some off.  The only negative thing I've
ever read about the current 3 Series, is that they suffered higher than
average problems with their transmissions.  I'm not sure how reliable the
source was, or if I'd trust it, but given the price of rebuilds out of
warranty, worth a close look at while doing the PPI.  New 3 series is due
out soon, with the coupe and M3 to follow, so I'm told.  That could help
lower the price somewhat on the current, or slightly used cars, as a new
model release always does.

Haven't tried my friends new 335iX yet, but looking forward to it.  He has
a lot of rally experience, and he tells me the car so far, has been great
in the snow and wet.  I was to go out today, but got tied up with stuff.
Lots of snowy days left to play this winter.  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:38, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> My son may want to buy a BMW 335 D to replace his toasted Subaru.  Any
> thoughts as to reliability, etc.?
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, E M  wrote:
> > The tin worm was quite fond of the taste of 2002 panels, but as far as I
> > know, many (most) of the parts are still available.  Thinking back, it
> > really was a car that started that whole segment, and set the standard
> > that's still referred to today.  There's more than a little 2002 DNA in
> > every M3.  ;-)
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > On 28 January 2012 17:29, Peter Frederick  wrote:
> >
> >> The 2002 is the nicest car I've ever driven.  Sadly, all the ones around
> >> here are gone.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> >>
> >>  I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders
> >>> from the PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected
> but
> >>> it was dark, late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to
> investigate
> >>> till I got home. I hear they are a blast to drive.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>> 300E
> >>>
> >>> On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
> >>> check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.bmw2002faq.com/**component/option,com_forum/**
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Mitch Haley]

Craig wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:47:36 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis
 wrote:

Would shoe goo be a good option to repair a tear? 


Though it would probably function very well mechanically, getting it
smooth and matching the Tex would be very difficult.


Didn't we just discuss Leatherique crack filler in the Rusty's wife's new W210 
thread?


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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

[E M]

Yeah, a lot of people have a thing for cutting the tops off cars, which I
never understood.  I personally prefer closed cars.  With all this talk
lately about transplanting engines, what I think would make a really cool
project, would be to shoehorn a 6.3 into a 280SE coupe.  That would be a
super Q car, without all the flash a lot of the current AMG models have.  A
gentleman's GT express.  :-)  Could probably make it all happen too, with
only a medium size hammer. hee hee

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:36, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> I got really excited when Friendship Classics in NW DC acquired a
> 280SE 3.5 cabriolet, silver with blue interior, asking only $60K for
> it (not that I have that kind of loose change, but market is well over
> $100K now).  Turns out it was a coupe conversion by an owner in FL and
> the idiotic thing was that it was a sunroof coupe to begin with.
> Still had the s/r switch in the dash.  Now that's heresy...
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, E M  wrote:
> > Gullwing prices are going through the roof it seems.  Even a "standard"
> one
> > in decent shape is going to set you back $6-700,000 these days.  Still, I
> > think they were undervalued for many years, and not given the proper
> > respect they deserve in automotive history.
> >
> > A fellow I knew in the club years ago, traded a mint restored 300 SL for
> a
> > Gullwing project car, that was pulled out of a pond.  It wasn't a numbers
> > matching car, but they did a lovely job restoring it.  And best of all,
> it
> > was a car he really enjoyed, drove regularly, and even took it on
> motoring
> > holidays.
> >
> > If my numbers ever come in on the lottery, a Gullwing is still one of the
> > cars on my short, wish list.  :-)
> >
> > As for the G Wagon, I'd prefer to see Mercedes drop a V12 into something
> > like the new CLS, before the G.  As for the few G Wagons I've been in, I
> > found the ergonomics kind of weird.  Not weird for a truck, but not
> really
> > a platform that is crying out for a twin turbo V12. hee hee.
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > On 28 January 2012 16:26,  wrote:
> >
> >> Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.
> >>
> >> www.mbworld.org
> >>
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[MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

[andrew strasfogel]

I have two W123 300TDs with dash issues.  One has some cracks on the
top of the dash, and the other has four small holes where the idiot PO
mounted some sort of plaque.  What makes him an uber-idiot is that he
had replaced the dash and it was pristine prior to drilling those
holes.

Anyway, how good are the various blue dyes (e.g., Leatherique) in
matching the OEM blue color on a touchup basis?  Or will I need to
fill the cracks and holes and respray each dash in its entirety?

Andrew
1983 and 1985 300TDs

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Craig]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:47:36 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis
 wrote:

> Would shoe goo be a good option to repair a tear? 

Though it would probably function very well mechanically, getting it
smooth and matching the Tex would be very difficult.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WAS 110 Heresey Was: R107 heresey now Heresy

[andrew strasfogel]

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hendrik & Fay  wrote:
> Yeah, that looks like some sort of metallic bronze, which I would not expect
> on a 200D, perhaps on a S class.
>
> Hendrik
> who has no vinyl on the roof
>
>
> Dieselhead wrote:
>>
>> There were a few factory two tones.  Very few in a 110.  The top color may
>> be right, but the body color is not factory.   In the early 80s, quite a few
>> were uglified by installing a "vinyl top" on the roof.  (ala the period GM
>> hunks o junk with 10 foot hoods and vinyl fake floptops.)
>>
>>> Never seen a factory two tone paint job.  Colors are all wrong. Something
>>> is fishy about this car...
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[andrew strasfogel]

My son may want to buy a BMW 335 D to replace his toasted Subaru.  Any
thoughts as to reliability, etc.?

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, E M  wrote:
> The tin worm was quite fond of the taste of 2002 panels, but as far as I
> know, many (most) of the parts are still available.  Thinking back, it
> really was a car that started that whole segment, and set the standard
> that's still referred to today.  There's more than a little 2002 DNA in
> every M3.  ;-)
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 28 January 2012 17:29, Peter Frederick  wrote:
>
>> The 2002 is the nicest car I've ever driven.  Sadly, all the ones around
>> here are gone.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>>
>>  I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders
>>> from the PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected but
>>> it was dark, late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to investigate
>>> till I got home. I hear they are a blast to drive.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M  wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> 300E
>>>
>>> On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
>>> check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bmw2002faq.com/**component/option,com_forum/**
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>>> *3d/
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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

[andrew strasfogel]

I got really excited when Friendship Classics in NW DC acquired a
280SE 3.5 cabriolet, silver with blue interior, asking only $60K for
it (not that I have that kind of loose change, but market is well over
$100K now).  Turns out it was a coupe conversion by an owner in FL and
the idiotic thing was that it was a sunroof coupe to begin with.
Still had the s/r switch in the dash.  Now that's heresy...

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, E M  wrote:
> Gullwing prices are going through the roof it seems.  Even a "standard" one
> in decent shape is going to set you back $6-700,000 these days.  Still, I
> think they were undervalued for many years, and not given the proper
> respect they deserve in automotive history.
>
> A fellow I knew in the club years ago, traded a mint restored 300 SL for a
> Gullwing project car, that was pulled out of a pond.  It wasn't a numbers
> matching car, but they did a lovely job restoring it.  And best of all, it
> was a car he really enjoyed, drove regularly, and even took it on motoring
> holidays.
>
> If my numbers ever come in on the lottery, a Gullwing is still one of the
> cars on my short, wish list.  :-)
>
> As for the G Wagon, I'd prefer to see Mercedes drop a V12 into something
> like the new CLS, before the G.  As for the few G Wagons I've been in, I
> found the ergonomics kind of weird.  Not weird for a truck, but not really
> a platform that is crying out for a twin turbo V12. hee hee.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 28 January 2012 16:26,  wrote:
>
>> Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.
>>
>> www.mbworld.org
>>
>> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Would shoe goo be a good option to repair a tear? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:26 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:


Many thanks to all for the suggestions.  Also going to try the brushes down
in the 240D medallion on the trunk lid which wouldn't clean up with Q-tips.
Gerry
P.S. Can anyone suggest a kit for patching a small tear in the MB-tex on a
seat?
..
Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially about 
preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Gerry Archer]

Many thanks to all for the suggestions.  Also going to try the brushes down
in the 240D medallion on the trunk lid which wouldn't clean up with Q-tips.
Gerry
P.S. Can anyone suggest a kit for patching a small tear in the MB-tex on a
seat?
..

Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially about 
preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,

Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] 110 Heresey Was: R107 heresey

[Hendrik & Fay]

Yeah, that looks like some sort of metallic bronze, which I would not 
expect on a 200D, perhaps on a S class.


Hendrik
who has no vinyl on the roof

Dieselhead wrote:
There were a few factory two tones.  Very few in a 110.  The top color 
may be right, but the body color is not factory.   In the early 80s, 
quite a few were uglified by installing a "vinyl top" on the roof.  
(ala the period GM hunks o junk with 10 foot hoods and vinyl fake 
floptops.)


Never seen a factory two tone paint job.  Colors are all wrong. 
Something is fishy about this car...


Dan








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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[OK Don]

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Whoa!  I am positive a OM603 is no longer than the twin cam 280 gasser.
>  There were links posted about installing a 60x and how to get hood
> clearance.
>
> Personally, i think I'd opt for a 602 turbo, but an 86-87 603 is more
> powerful.
>
>
>  
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/**see/for/2822825687.html
>>
>> Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning,
>> would this french number be a more practical choice?
>>
>> clay
>>
>
I had a 107 and an OM603 at the same time and measured both. I'm sure it
will fit. Wish I'd done the swap instead of just thinking about it.


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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[kevin kraly]

That W110 has me drooling too!  I was almost going to buy a 1968 200D 
automatic years before I found my first W123.  It started and ran, but since 
it sat for years, the fuel was so bad that it would not start reliably and 
would not idle.  the exhaust smelled strrange.  Knowing what I now know 
about Diesels, I would go back and buy it, drain the tank, flush and clean 
the system and would still be enjoying it.


I've decided against that W123, it's been on CL forever.  Something has to 
be wrooong for it not to sell in this area.


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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[WILTON]

I know you can spell; just had to yank your chain a bit.  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "E M" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior


You're always nice Wilton, a proper Southern Gent!  :-)  Even when 
pointing

out, I can't spell. ;-) hee hee

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 19:44, WILTON  wrote:


I was trying to be "nice."  ;<)))

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "E M" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior


 There you go, that's the word I was looking for!! ;-)  lol


We made fun over the last day of what the Americans do to the English
language.  Now they're going to be saying, "look at that idiot Canadian,
he
can't even spell chamois!"  lol

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 18:20, WILTON  wrote:

 Shammy - also known as chamois?  ;<)))


Either way, I used to have coupla large ones that worked nicely for
wiping
the car down after washing to prevent water spotting.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "E M" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior


 The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks
easily.

The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a 
good
going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad 
to

deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car
wash
once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I
used
water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up
brushes.
Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel 
is

off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I 
did

all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash
and
other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall 
onto
various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it 
directly
onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with 
a

Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the 
interior

and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass
was
dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If
you
smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut
the
tar first.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 14:39, Gerry Archer  
wrote:


 Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a
compliment


on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially
about
preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
Gerry


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[MBZ] 110 Heresey Was: R107 heresey

[Dieselhead]

There were a few factory two tones.  Very few in a 110.  The top 
color may be right, but the body color is not factory.   In the early 
80s, quite a few were uglified by installing a "vinyl top" on the 
roof.  (ala the period GM hunks o junk with 10 foot hoods and vinyl 
fake floptops.)


Never seen a factory two tone paint job.  Colors are all wrong. 
Something is fishy about this car...


Dan


On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Tim C wrote:


 Is that a water line along the drive shaft hump?

 I have a lot of the interior from my 115 240, wrong color (brown) but not
 moldy. :)

 Best,
 Tim
 Shipping carpets might be a bit much for a 3/4 k$ car though
 On Jan 28, 2012 8:20 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:


 clay monroe  writes:


 http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html

 I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to

 have another old diesel in the stable

 Interior looks fairly rough.  But it does have a manual transmission.
 If the body is solid it might be worth resurrecting.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[clay monroe]

I have two black wheels, and would love to regain a little cash by offering the 
white on eBay for a Pagoda.

clay

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html
>> 
>> I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to have 
>> another old diesel in the stable
>> 
>> clay
> 
> Oh! and in the right time and place,  the uncracked steering wheel is worth a 
> Franklin or two.  You can probably find a cracked used one to keep driving 
> it.  108 and 109s use it too.
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[clay monroe]

I would have to see the car in the flesh to know what all is going on.  Maybe I 
make a Kaleb offer if it is able to drive the 40 miles home.

clay

On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Tim C wrote:

> Is that a water line along the drive shaft hump?
> 
> I have a lot of the interior from my 115 240, wrong color (brown) but not
> moldy. :)
> 
> Best,
> Tim
> Shipping carpets might be a bit much for a 3/4 k$ car though
> On Jan 28, 2012 8:20 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:
> 
>> clay monroe  writes:
>> 
>>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html
>>> 
>>> I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to
>> have another old diesel in the stable
>> 
>> Interior looks fairly rough.  But it does have a manual transmission.
>> If the body is solid it might be worth resurrecting.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[Dieselhead]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html

I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice 
to have another old diesel in the stable


clay


Oh! and in the right time and place,  the uncracked steering wheel is 
worth a Franklin or two.  You can probably find a cracked used one to 
keep driving it.  108 and 109s use it too.


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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[E M]

Even has the owners manual on the passenger seat.  If he's willing to have
it towed away for scrap, I'm betting you could get it for a good chunk less
than the asking $750.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 19:10, clay monroe  wrote:

> Laugh, Funny Man!!!  I just found this
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html
>
> I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to have
> another old diesel in the stable
>
> clay
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:01 PM, E M wrote:
>
> > Go back to the tread on Larry's starter.  If you find any engine is too
> big
> > to shoehorn in, you just need a bigger, or larger selection of hammers to
> > work with. ;-)  Nobody needs that much legroom anyway, firewalls can be
> > moved. hee hee
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > On 28 January 2012 16:55, clay monroe  wrote:
> >
> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/2822825687.html
> >>
> >> Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning,
> would
> >> this french number be a more practical choice?
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[Curt Raymond]

You CAD! Offer the man $500 and ride in style.

Seriously, if you don't Kevin should forget that turd 123 and GET THIS CAR!

-Curt


Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:10:00 -0800
From: clay monroe 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey
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Laugh, Funny Man!!!  I just found this

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html

I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to have 
another old diesel in the stable

clay

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Curt Raymond]

I've read this advice elsewhere. I'd seen Pledge or other dusters recommended 
for the job.

I just clean with windex. As I wash the windows I keep the wet paper towels 
handy and wipe down everything else with them.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:39:34 -0700
From: Craig 
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:22:11 -0500 E M  wrote:

> I then treated the dash and other similar parts with plain old
> Armorall.

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE ARMORALL ON DARK BLUE W123 DASHBOARDS!

It will leach the plasticizers out of them and cause them to chalk and
crack severly.

I do not know about other colors, but Armorall kills dark blue dashboards.


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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[E M]

You're always nice Wilton, a proper Southern Gent!  :-)  Even when pointing
out, I can't spell. ;-) hee hee

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 19:44, WILTON  wrote:

> I was trying to be "nice."  ;<)))
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "E M" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior
>
>
>  There you go, that's the word I was looking for!! ;-)  lol
>>
>> We made fun over the last day of what the Americans do to the English
>> language.  Now they're going to be saying, "look at that idiot Canadian,
>> he
>> can't even spell chamois!"  lol
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> On 28 January 2012 18:20, WILTON  wrote:
>>
>>  Shammy - also known as chamois?  ;<)))
>>>
>>> Either way, I used to have coupla large ones that worked nicely for
>>> wiping
>>> the car down after washing to prevent water spotting.
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "E M" 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior
>>>
>>>
>>>  The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks
>>> easily.
>>>
 The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a good
 going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad to
 deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car
 wash
 once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I
 used
 water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up
 brushes.
 Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel is
 off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
 started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I did
 all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash
 and
 other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall onto
 various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it directly
 onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with a
 Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
 Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
 Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
 streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the interior
 and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass
 was
 dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If
 you
 smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut
 the
 tar first.

 Ed
 300E

 On 28 January 2012 14:39, Gerry Archer  wrote:

  Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a
 compliment

> on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially
> about
> preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[E M]

They recently have changed the formula, according to the last jug I
bought.  I'm more jell like now.  I doesn't run all over the rims like the
old stuff, and doesn't have the funny shine to it, like the "original".
Before this, I was using their formula that was more natural looking(can't
remember the name, low gloss?), but it was still runny like the original.
I'm not sure just how they've changed the formula, or if it now works in a
different way than before.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 20:11, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

> It seems to be pretty well known in the car world that armorall is
> detrimental. I wonder why they just don't change their formula.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>
> Armorall kills everything.
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Craig  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:22:11 -0500 E M  wrote:
>
> I then treated the dash and other similar parts with plain old
> Armorall.
>
> DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE ARMORALL ON DARK BLUE W123 DASHBOARDS!
>
> It will leach the plasticizers out of them and cause them to chalk and
> crack severly.
>
> I do not know about other colors, but Armorall kills dark blue dashboards.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[Dan Penoff]

Never seen a factory two tone paint job.  Colors are all wrong.  Something is 
fishy about this car...

Dan


On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Tim C wrote:

> Is that a water line along the drive shaft hump?
> 
> I have a lot of the interior from my 115 240, wrong color (brown) but not
> moldy. :)
> 
> Best,
> Tim
> Shipping carpets might be a bit much for a 3/4 k$ car though
> On Jan 28, 2012 8:20 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:
> 
>> clay monroe  writes:
>> 
>>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html
>>> 
>>> I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to
>> have another old diesel in the stable
>> 
>> Interior looks fairly rough.  But it does have a manual transmission.
>> If the body is solid it might be worth resurrecting.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[WILTON]

Maybe, a bigger grin.

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior



On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:21 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

- also known as chamois?  ;<)))


Okay. I know that ; = a wink, < = a nose, ) = a smile, but what is ))? A 
double chin? I recall a photo of you next to a grandfather clock you built 
Wilton. You had no double chin. For that matter, you looked damn fit for a 
man of your maturity.

;<)
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[Tim C]

Is that a water line along the drive shaft hump?

I have a lot of the interior from my 115 240, wrong color (brown) but not
moldy. :)

Best,
Tim
Shipping carpets might be a bit much for a 3/4 k$ car though
 On Jan 28, 2012 8:20 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> clay monroe  writes:
>
> > http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html
> >
> > I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to
> have another old diesel in the stable
>
> Interior looks fairly rough.  But it does have a manual transmission.
> If the body is solid it might be worth resurrecting.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Gerry Archer]

Yep.  Might as well do the inside as well as the outside.  (g)
Gerry

From: "WILTON" 

Suggestion:  Come and do mine.  Two of 'em ready for ya.  ;<)))
Wilton


Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially 
about preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,

Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[Allan Streib]

clay monroe  writes:

> http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html
>
> I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to have 
> another old diesel in the stable

Interior looks fairly rough.  But it does have a manual transmission.
If the body is solid it might be worth resurrecting.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

[Allan Streib]

ernest breakfield  writes:

> yes, they were sold in the US, but unfortunately seemed to have
> inherited the worst traits of both AMC and Renault and were rather
> failure-prone;

I thought that was the best trait of those marques

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Rick Knoble]

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:21 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:
> - also known as chamois?  ;<)))

Okay. I know that ; = a wink, < = a nose, ) = a smile, but what is ))? A double 
chin? I recall a photo of you next to a grandfather clock you built Wilton. You 
had no double chin. For that matter, you looked damn fit for a man of your 
maturity. 
;<)
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Dimitri Seretakis]

It seems to be pretty well known in the car world that armorall is detrimental. 
I wonder why they just don't change their formula.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

Armorall kills everything.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Craig  wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:22:11 -0500 E M  wrote:

I then treated the dash and other similar parts with plain old
Armorall.

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE ARMORALL ON DARK BLUE W123 DASHBOARDS!

It will leach the plasticizers out of them and cause them to chalk and
crack severly.

I do not know about other colors, but Armorall kills dark blue dashboards.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[Rick Knoble]

And, if you wish, I will post them again. 

Rick
Sent from my distant extension
of A.G. Bell's invention 

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:03 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There were links posted about installing a 60x and how to get hood clearance.

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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[Dieselhead]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html

I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice 
to have another old diesel in the stable


clay


What is scrap value for 3200 lb?

Offer him $50 over scrap or scrap value. or $50 under

A 110 Diesel is a blast!  I can answer most questions you might have 
about it.  A master and slave is not that expensive.  You can install 
pencil type glow plugs for faster starts.


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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[WILTON]

I was trying to be "nice."  ;<)))

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "E M" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior



There you go, that's the word I was looking for!! ;-)  lol

We made fun over the last day of what the Americans do to the English
language.  Now they're going to be saying, "look at that idiot Canadian, 
he

can't even spell chamois!"  lol

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 18:20, WILTON  wrote:


Shammy - also known as chamois?  ;<)))

Either way, I used to have coupla large ones that worked nicely for 
wiping

the car down after washing to prevent water spotting.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "E M" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior


 The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks 
easily.

The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a good
going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad to
deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car 
wash
once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I 
used
water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up 
brushes.

Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel is
off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I did
all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash 
and

other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall onto
various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it directly
onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with a
Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the interior
and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass 
was
dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If 
you
smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut 
the

tar first.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 14:39, Gerry Archer  wrote:

 Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a 
compliment

on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially
about
preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

[ernest breakfield]

yes, they were sold in the US, but unfortunately seemed to have 
inherited the worst traits of both AMC and Renault and were rather 
failure-prone; not at all like the MBZ diesels.
in XJ circles, they're known as novelty project or hobby cars, but 
are nowhere near as reliable as the 4.0 straight 6.



cheers!
e

On 28/Jan/12 15:19, Mitch Haley wrote:

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2781517408.html

IIRC this was one of the weirder products of the Renault/AMC
collaboration of the '80s.  If this is the same engine as in Peugeots
of the same era, it's probably almost as bulletproof as an OM616.
You're not going to see another one of these the next time you go
four-wheeling!


I see it's in Vancouver. Were those ever sold in USA?

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Craig]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:49:05 -0500 E M  wrote:

> I'm sure there are better things out there, I just have [not] explored
> them yet. I should see if I can find some of the 303 products for
> plastic and rubber.

>From what I have heard, the 303 products are the better things for which
you are looking. I need to buy some of them myself.


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Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

[clay monroe]

Vancouver is the armpit of Washington state, just over the river from PDX.  
Sold them left and right in the early 80's.

clay

On Jan 28, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>> http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2781517408.html
>> IIRC this was one of the weirder products of the Renault/AMC
>> collaboration of the '80s.  If this is the same engine as in Peugeots
>> of the same era, it's probably almost as bulletproof as an OM616.
>> You're not going to see another one of these the next time you go
>> four-wheeling!
> 
> I see it's in Vancouver. Were those ever sold in USA?
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[clay monroe]

Laugh, Funny Man!!!  I just found this

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html

I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to have 
another old diesel in the stable

clay




On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:01 PM, E M wrote:

> Go back to the tread on Larry's starter.  If you find any engine is too big
> to shoehorn in, you just need a bigger, or larger selection of hammers to
> work with. ;-)  Nobody needs that much legroom anyway, firewalls can be
> moved. hee hee
> 
> Ed
> 300E
> 
> On 28 January 2012 16:55, clay monroe  wrote:
> 
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/2822825687.html
>> 
>> Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning, would
>> this french number be a more practical choice?
>> 
>> clay
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Jan 28, 2012 3:19 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:
>
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>>
>> http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2781517408.html

> I see it's in Vancouver. Were those
> ever sold in USA?
>
>

Yes, they were.  That's Vancouver, WA--Portland's New Jersey.

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[E M]

I've read that it does prevents cracking and checking on tires, by pulling
the various polymers to the surface.  I don't worry about it on tires, as
tires aren't kept that long, but I know it's not so great to use on
interior parts.  When I use it, I do cut it 50/50 with water, and I find it
helps to take that fake shine off it too.

I'm sure there are better things out there, I just have explored them yet.
I should see if I can find some of the 303 products for plastic and rubber.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 18:44, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> Armorall kills everything.
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Craig  wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:22:11 -0500 E M  wrote:
> >
> > > I then treated the dash and other similar parts with plain old
> > > Armorall.
> >
> > DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE ARMORALL ON DARK BLUE W123 DASHBOARDS!
> >
> > It will leach the plasticizers out of them and cause them to chalk and
> > crack severly.
> >
> > I do not know about other colors, but Armorall kills dark blue
> dashboards.
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Armorall kills everything.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:22:11 -0500 E M  wrote:
>
> > I then treated the dash and other similar parts with plain old
> > Armorall.
>
> DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE ARMORALL ON DARK BLUE W123 DASHBOARDS!
>
> It will leach the plasticizers out of them and cause them to chalk and
> crack severly.
>
> I do not know about other colors, but Armorall kills dark blue dashboards.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[E M]

There you go, that's the word I was looking for!! ;-)  lol

We made fun over the last day of what the Americans do to the English
language.  Now they're going to be saying, "look at that idiot Canadian, he
can't even spell chamois!"  lol

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 18:20, WILTON  wrote:

> Shammy - also known as chamois?  ;<)))
>
> Either way, I used to have coupla large ones that worked nicely for wiping
> the car down after washing to prevent water spotting.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "E M" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior
>
>
>  The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks easily.
>> The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a good
>> going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad to
>> deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car wash
>> once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I used
>> water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up brushes.
>> Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel is
>> off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
>> started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I did
>> all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash and
>> other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall onto
>> various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it directly
>> onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with a
>> Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
>> Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
>> Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
>> streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the interior
>> and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass was
>> dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If you
>> smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut the
>> tar first.
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> On 28 January 2012 14:39, Gerry Archer  wrote:
>>
>>  Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
>>> on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially
>>> about
>>> preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
>>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Jaime Kopchinski]

One comment:

The original finish on everything in the interior (dash board, seats, etc)
is a matte finish, not shiny.  If you're using a product that shines, its
trying to simulate something that isn't there.

For all my interior work, I used Xtra Duty:

http://www.carbrite.com/Products/Interior-Care/Cleaners/Fabric-Care/Carpet---Upholstery-Cleaners/Xtra-Duty.aspx

This is what many local Mercedes dealers use.  It actually cleans (by
lifting dirt) and leaves the original matte finish as it should be.  Its
excellent on MB Tex and modern leathers, but I use it sparingly on older
leathers as it might lift the dye.

I very much dislike armorall...

Jaime


On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

> Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
> on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially about
> preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Craig]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:22:11 -0500 E M  wrote:

> I then treated the dash and other similar parts with plain old
> Armorall.

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE ARMORALL ON DARK BLUE W123 DASHBOARDS!

It will leach the plasticizers out of them and cause them to chalk and
crack severly.

I do not know about other colors, but Armorall kills dark blue dashboards.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[glenn brown]

I agree w/RK's suggestion, unless you care for the greasy kid stuff (i.e., 
Armorall):
http://www.303products.com/

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[WILTON]

Shammy - also known as chamois?  ;<)))

Either way, I used to have coupla large ones that worked nicely for wiping 
the car down after washing to prevent water spotting.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior



The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks easily.
The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a good
going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad to
deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car wash
once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I used
water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up brushes.
Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel is
off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I did
all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash and
other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall onto
various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it directly
onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with a
Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the interior
and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass was
dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If you
smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut the
tar first.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 14:39, Gerry Archer  wrote:


Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially 
about

preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

[Mitch Haley]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2781517408.html

IIRC this was one of the weirder products of the Renault/AMC
collaboration of the '80s.  If this is the same engine as in Peugeots
of the same era, it's probably almost as bulletproof as an OM616.
You're not going to see another one of these the next time you go
four-wheeling!


I see it's in Vancouver. Were those ever sold in USA?

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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[E M]

Go for the most power, and use whatever size hammer is necessary to make it
fit! ;-)

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:52, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Whoa!  I am positive a OM603 is no longer than the twin cam 280 gasser.
>  There were links posted about installing a 60x and how to get hood
> clearance.
>
> Personally, i think I'd opt for a 602 turbo, but an 86-87 603 is more
> powerful.
>
>
>  
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/**see/for/2822825687.html
>>
>> Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning,
>> would this french number be a more practical choice?
>>
>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[E M]

The tin worm was quite fond of the taste of 2002 panels, but as far as I
know, many (most) of the parts are still available.  Thinking back, it
really was a car that started that whole segment, and set the standard
that's still referred to today.  There's more than a little 2002 DNA in
every M3.  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:29, Peter Frederick  wrote:

> The 2002 is the nicest car I've ever driven.  Sadly, all the ones around
> here are gone.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>
>  I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders
>> from the PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected but
>> it was dark, late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to investigate
>> till I got home. I hear they are a blast to drive.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M  wrote:
>>
>> Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>
>> I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
>> check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:
>>
>>
>> http://www.bmw2002faq.com/**component/option,com_forum/**
>> Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,**368415/sid,**8f7606df911048e0dcf7ec692e7865*
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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[E M]

I haven't driven one, but my friend still counts it as one of the best cars
he has ever owned.  He's owned Porsches, Jags, and others, both new and
vintage.  Parts are getting a bit pricey, but it's a real drivers car, and
worth getting on the road again.

Have fun with it!

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:22, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

> I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders
> from the PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected but
> it was dark, late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to investigate
> till I got home. I hear they are a blast to drive.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M  wrote:
>
> Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>
> I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
> check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:
>
>
>
> http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,368415/sid,8f7606df911048e0dcf7ec692e78653d/
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[E M]

I find another great source is the cosmetic counter at your local
drugstore.  All sizes and different textures of applicator brushes for
women's cosmetics, though I must admit, I'm not that fussy anymore.  A
toothbrush and vacuum pretty much does it these days.  Anything more, and
the first time I roll the window down, all that hard work is pretty much
down the drain in seconds.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:16, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

> Brushes are great for getting stuff out of seams etc. Griots garage used
> to sell interior detailing brushes. They were basically your typical
> basting brush resold as a detailing tool.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:13 PM, E M  wrote:
>
> On 28 January 2012 16:59, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> I use a soft toothbrush for getting the bits of dust out of the switches
> and other things, along with the vacuum.
>
> I'll be sure to keep an eye open for 303 products.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> I also keep a 2" natural "hair" paint brush in my glovebox for touchups.
> Believe it or not, using this little brush that cost me under a buck makes
> a big difference in keeping dust and dirt out of all the little nooks and
> crannies between switches and in the places on the dash and console.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, "Gerry Archer" 
> wrote:
>
> All suggestions appreciated; especially about preservatives for the
> plastic parts.
>
>
> http://www.303products.com/
>
> Rick
> Sent from my distant extension
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[Dieselhead]

Whoa!  I am positive a OM603 is no longer than the twin cam 280 
gasser.  There were links posted about installing a 60x and how to 
get hood clearance.


Personally, i think I'd opt for a 602 turbo, but an 86-87 603 is more powerful.



http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/2822825687.html

Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning, 
would this french number be a more practical choice?


clay


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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[Dimitri Seretakis]

That's great to hear. Can't wait to get it fixed.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:

The 2002 is the nicest car I've ever driven.  Sadly, all the ones around here 
are gone.

Peter

On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders from the 
PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected but it was dark, 
late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to investigate till I got home. I 
hear they are a blast to drive.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M  wrote:

Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:


http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,368415/sid,8f7606df911048e0dcf7ec692e78653d/
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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[Peter Frederick]

The 2002 is the nicest car I've ever driven.  Sadly, all the ones  
around here are gone.


Peter

On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three  
cylinders from the PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was  
disconnected but it was dark, late and rainy that night so I didn't  
bother to investigate till I got home. I hear they are a blast to  
drive.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M  wrote:

Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis   
wrote:


I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:


http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/ 
page,viewtopic/t,368415/sid,8f7606df911048e0dcf7ec692e78653d/

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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[Dimitri Seretakis]

I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders from the 
PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected but it was dark, 
late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to investigate till I got home. I 
hear they are a blast to drive. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M  wrote:

Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:


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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Brushes are great for getting stuff out of seams etc. Griots garage used to 
sell interior detailing brushes. They were basically your typical basting brush 
resold as a detailing tool. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:13 PM, E M  wrote:

On 28 January 2012 16:59, Dan Penoff  wrote:

I use a soft toothbrush for getting the bits of dust out of the switches
and other things, along with the vacuum.

I'll be sure to keep an eye open for 303 products.

Ed
300E

I also keep a 2" natural "hair" paint brush in my glovebox for touchups.
Believe it or not, using this little brush that cost me under a buck makes
a big difference in keeping dust and dirt out of all the little nooks and
crannies between switches and in the places on the dash and console.

Dan



On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, "Gerry Archer" 
wrote:

All suggestions appreciated; especially about preservatives for the
plastic parts.


http://www.303products.com/

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[E M]

Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

> I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
> check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:
>
>
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[MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

[Alex Chamberlain]

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2781517408.html

IIRC this was one of the weirder products of the Renault/AMC
collaboration of the '80s.  If this is the same engine as in Peugeots
of the same era, it's probably almost as bulletproof as an OM616.
You're not going to see another one of these the next time you go
four-wheeling!

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[E M]

On 28 January 2012 16:59, Dan Penoff  wrote:

I use a soft toothbrush for getting the bits of dust out of the switches
and other things, along with the vacuum.

I'll be sure to keep an eye open for 303 products.

Ed
300E

I also keep a 2" natural "hair" paint brush in my glovebox for touchups.
>  Believe it or not, using this little brush that cost me under a buck makes
> a big difference in keeping dust and dirt out of all the little nooks and
> crannies between switches and in the places on the dash and console.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
>
> > On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, "Gerry Archer" 
> wrote:
> >
> >> All suggestions appreciated; especially about preservatives for the
> plastic parts.
> >
> >
> > http://www.303products.com/
> >
> > Rick
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[MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

[Dimitri Seretakis]

I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans, check 
out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,368415/sid,8f7606df911048e0dcf7ec692e78653d/
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Dan Penoff]

303 for sure.  I use it liberally in all my cars, and the nice thing is, it has 
no silicones like Armor-All does.

I find it around here at West Marine, which is easier than buying it online.  
Can't find it at FLAPS, at least I've never been able to.

One thing that has worked well for me as far as cleaning windows is the foamy 
stuff that's recommended for use on window tint.  It doesn't streak and is easy 
to apply.

I also keep a 2" natural "hair" paint brush in my glovebox for touchups.  
Believe it or not, using this little brush that cost me under a buck makes a 
big difference in keeping dust and dirt out of all the little nooks and 
crannies between switches and in the places on the dash and console.

Dan



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> On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:
> 
>> All suggestions appreciated; especially about preservatives for the plastic 
>> parts.
> 
> 
> http://www.303products.com/
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

[E M]

Go back to the tread on Larry's starter.  If you find any engine is too big
to shoehorn in, you just need a bigger, or larger selection of hammers to
work with. ;-)  Nobody needs that much legroom anyway, firewalls can be
moved. hee hee

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 16:55, clay monroe  wrote:

> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/2822825687.html
>
> Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning, would
> this french number be a more practical choice?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

[E M]

Gullwing prices are going through the roof it seems.  Even a "standard" one
in decent shape is going to set you back $6-700,000 these days.  Still, I
think they were undervalued for many years, and not given the proper
respect they deserve in automotive history.

A fellow I knew in the club years ago, traded a mint restored 300 SL for a
Gullwing project car, that was pulled out of a pond.  It wasn't a numbers
matching car, but they did a lovely job restoring it.  And best of all, it
was a car he really enjoyed, drove regularly, and even took it on motoring
holidays.

If my numbers ever come in on the lottery, a Gullwing is still one of the
cars on my short, wish list.  :-)

As for the G Wagon, I'd prefer to see Mercedes drop a V12 into something
like the new CLS, before the G.  As for the few G Wagons I've been in, I
found the ergonomics kind of weird.  Not weird for a truck, but not really
a platform that is crying out for a twin turbo V12. hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 16:26,  wrote:

> Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.
>
> www.mbworld.org
>
> RLE
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[MBZ] R107 heresey

[clay monroe]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/2822825687.html

Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning, would this 
french number be a more practical choice?

clay



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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[Rick Knoble]

On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

> All suggestions appreciated; especially about preservatives for the plastic 
> parts.


http://www.303products.com/

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine belt

[WILTON]

ATTABOY!

Wilton

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From: "E M" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Serpentine belt



Nice weekend project Wilton. :-)  Think I'm going to go out to the garage
later this evening and treat the leather on your winter car. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 15:36, WILTON  wrote:


'Just replaced serp belt on the '87 300D (125 kmi); working space on the
300D a little tighter than the '91 350SDL (200 kmi); 300D fan shroud and
radiator are a little closer to the engine.  Bofum done in same manner by
removing only the belt upper tensioner damper bolt and the nut on upper
tensioner spring bolt.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:26 PM,   wrote:
> Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.
>
> www.mbworld.org
>

I could certainly have used that V-12 Gelaendewagen to get out of my
driveway and get to work on time during the recent snowstorm we had in
the Portland (OR) area!

Alex

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[MBZ] Look at these

[RELNGSON]

Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.

www.mbworld.org

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] flight simulators

[E M]

Thanks.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 16:20,  wrote:

> > ...Any thoughts on what flight simulators offer the best   Concorde, and
> > 747 ? I've watched numerous videos of the flight deck of Concorde, on
> > YouTube. It would be fun to play around with a flight simulator on the
> PC
> >
> X-Plane but it certainly isn't free. I don't think Concorde is in it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[E M]

The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks easily.
The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a good
going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad to
deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car wash
once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I used
water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up brushes.
Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel is
off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I did
all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash and
other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall onto
various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it directly
onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with a
Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the interior
and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass was
dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If you
smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut the
tar first.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 14:39, Gerry Archer  wrote:

> Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
> on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially about
> preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] flight simulators

[RELNGSON]

> ...Any thoughts on what flight simulators offer the best   Concorde, and 
> 747 ? I've watched numerous videos of the flight deck of Concorde, on 
> YouTube. It would be fun to play around with a flight simulator on the PC
> 
X-Plane but it certainly isn't free. I don't think Concorde is in it.

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Re: [MBZ] Tranny questions

[Gerry Archer]

http://190rev.net/forums/showthread.php?t=37987 

This seems to be pretty good directions for installing the new K1
springs, etc.
Gerry

From: "Hendrik & Fay" 
> Pretty certain that the K1 spring kit is only for 722.3/4 trannies and 
> only fixes the 2-3 flare.
> Have no experience with the 722.1 boxes but flaring can be caused by a 
> slow change over, worn clutches, brake band 2 sticking and perhaps low 
> operating pressure.
> At this stage I would suggest that a rebuild is not in order but a look 
> inside the pan to see if there are metal particles is in order.
> I have had good success with Fuchs titan D3 semi-synthetic ATF.
> Modulator adjustment is related to all gears and while adjustment will 
> mask a problem it does not fix it.
> Shift timing is determined by control pressure, nothing to do with the 
> modulator.
> You really need to find someone who is an expert on these boxes and will 
> not just tell you that you need another box.
> 
> Hendrik
> who is losing his sanity trying to get auto boxes to work 100%
> 
> Larry T wrote:
>> I put one of Rusty's ATs in last summer (by local shop) and  must 
>> concur - they are awesome with great prices.
>>
>> I may have mentioned this, but my local MB Dealer was willing to 
>> install a outside vendor's rebuilt AT  just like the local Indy did 
>> (but the dealer wanted $1250 Vs $650).
>>
>> When I was talking to Rusty about the AT he said he'd sold thousands 
>> over the last ~20 years and had only 3 problems!!  That's incredible!  
>> 2 of the  problems were the fault of the installer and the other was 
>> something external that could be easily repaired.   All 3 problems 
>> were minor BTW.
>>
>> When I asked the rebuilder what kind of ATF to use he said Dexron 
>> III.   I was hoping to use M1 ATF but went with the rebuilder 
>> recommendation.  They also say to use 24K ATF change intervals Vs 30K 
>> that MB says to use.
>>
>> Have a good weekend -
>> LarryT
>> 91 300D
>>
>> On 1/27/2012 10:08 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Tim C  wrote:
>>>
 Mine goes to a high RPM with no load, then drops back to normal once it
 makes it into gear.  I included that line because I realize that 
 might be
 something completely different than what I thought it was called. :)
>>> Sounds like a really ghastly case of flaring.  Normally you just get a
>>> little "vrrr" as the engine revs up a little for an instant during
>>> upshifts---that condition can often be cured by proper modulator
>>> adjustment, a fluid change, and running a while with synthetic ATF.
>>> But the best cure for what you're describing, Tim, is often one of
>>> Rusty's rebuilt trannies installed by a competent shop (or on your
>>> own, if you have the right equipment).
>>>
>>> Alex
> On 1/26/2012 4:43 PM, Tim C wrote:
> 1) Anyone know if the K1 spring upgrade (126-270-44-77) will fit in a
> 722.118?  Rusty wasn't sure, and the internet seems littered with
> folks having this question unanswered. :/
> 
> 2) My transmission is flaring* and yesterday I realized that, after
> adjusting the accelerator throw some months ago, I didn't adjust the
> pushrod to the transmission's vacuum valve.  I shortened the pushrod a
> bit, and it is a bit better.  I am hoping the trend will continue as I
> make it shorter...
> 
> However, this leaves me with two questions:
>  a) How likely that I did permanent damage?  I guess I was telling the
> transmission I was always at WOT?  Not really sure what the vacuum
> valve is doing in practice. [Fluid was replaced 8-10 months ago, I'll
> do it again soon anyway since I have a slow leak I want to track
> down.]
>  b) Why would it shift early with a pushrod that was too long?  Seems
> like it should be the other way.
> 
> *I think it's "flaring," basically the engine spins before it goes
> through (I think) 1-2 and 2-3, especially if I'm accelerating above
> 40%.  If I force it to hold gear with the floor shift, it shifts
> perfectly at a higher RPM.
> 
> Thanks!
> -Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine belt

[E M]

Nice weekend project Wilton. :-)  Think I'm going to go out to the garage
later this evening and treat the leather on your winter car. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 15:36, WILTON  wrote:

> 'Just replaced serp belt on the '87 300D (125 kmi); working space on the
> 300D a little tighter than the '91 350SDL (200 kmi); 300D fan shroud and
> radiator are a little closer to the engine.  Bofum done in same manner by
> removing only the belt upper tensioner damper bolt and the nut on upper
> tensioner spring bolt.
>
> Wilton
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[MBZ] Serpentine belt

[WILTON]

'Just replaced serp belt on the '87 300D (125 kmi); working space on the 300D a 
little tighter than the '91 350SDL (200 kmi); 300D fan shroud and radiator are 
a little closer to the engine.  Bofum done in same manner by removing only the 
belt upper tensioner damper bolt and the nut on upper tensioner spring bolt. 

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

[WILTON]

Suggestion:  Come and do mine.  Two of 'em ready for ya.  ;<)))

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Detailing interior



Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially about 
preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,

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[MBZ] Detailing interior

[Gerry Archer]

Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially about 
preservatives for the plastic parts. 
Thanks,

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Re: [MBZ] 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters

[E M]

There's an elderly lady around here with an old SDL.  Not sure of the
mileage, but the body is really rough (the cars, not the lady's).  As they
say, "if the tin worms ever decided to let go of each others hands, the
whole thing would surely fall to pieces!"  Cool to see that it keeps
chugging along though.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 11:49, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> When my SDL was retired it had travelled 662,812,000 meters or metres.
>  (your choice)
> or 660,812,000,000 mm  That is 660 Billion mm.
>
> That means it had travelled 26 Billion inches. 26,094,960,630 inches. (for
> the angleish)
>
> I was hoping to get it to 1million klicks but the body work required after
> the second bout with cancer and being bashed on the side was prohibitive.
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[MBZ] 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters

[Dieselhead]

When my SDL was retired it had travelled 662,812,000 meters or 
metres.  (your choice)

or 660,812,000,000 mm  That is 660 Billion mm.

That means it had travelled 26 Billion inches. 26,094,960,630 inches. 
(for the angleish)


I was hoping to get it to 1million klicks but the body work required 
after the second bout with cancer and being bashed on the side was 
prohibitive.


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[MBZ] OT Managing contacts

[Dieselhead]

Does anyone have a recommendation for a web-based contact manager 
software that  I could put on a webserver?


I don't need salesforce, M$-CRM and that kind of thing.  It would be 
used for maybe 300-500 contacts.  Software that can handle >1000 
contacts would work fine.   MySQL based would make sense since most 
linux or virtual linux servers already have MySQL installed.


I see several choices on sourceforge.

Thanks

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