Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?

2012-04-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Randy - How many miles can you document on your 76 300D?

On 4/5/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Yeah the Greek cabbies own their own cars and tend to baby them till death.
 To this day they still rave about the w123 diesels which have become a
 relative rarity now in the Greek taxi fleet although you still see them in
 the more rural parts. Cars there don't rust but they get banged up a lot due
 to narrow roads and idiot drivers. As a result body panels are loaded with
 bondo and so it's difficult to find a straight car. The Greeks don't know a
 damned thing about doing quality body work. They are good mechanics though.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Rich Thomas
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I saw a diesel Benz in Greece that had 1.5million miles on it, a taxi, thing
 looked almost new.  Owner was on his 3rd engine.  It was a 78 or 80 or
 somewhere along in there.  I think it started as a 220D and he had a 300
 engine in it at the time (don't tell the tax man! he said).  The roads
 there are pretty good, but I am sure it had its share of hard knocks in its
 many years.

 I'd be more worried about rust and such than metal fatigue -- wear parts
 need to be replaced as a matter of course.  If potholes are causing enough
 hurt on the bits, then the suspension must not be doing its job too well,
 and if it bottoms out or gets pounded hard then something is gonna get
 broken or bent and will need to be replaced.

 --R

 On 4/5/12 10:33 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
 I think my point has been lost.

 I was commenting on the suggestion that cars can become more valuable as
 they accumulate really high mileage. I said I did not really want one of
 those.
 My suggestion was that at some point one must begin to wonder about metal
 fatigue in important parts between one's you know what and the road.
 I have no real concern with 300K miles but at a million, I start to wonder
 how many potholes have been pounded through.

 Randy


 On 04/04/2012 7:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 Hairline cracks which cause what exactly?

 Besides if there are cracks they will rust and show themselves.

 -Curt

 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:10:55 -0500
 From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?
 Message-ID:4f7cb8df.5050...@bennell.ca
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 I don't think age is as likely to cause metal fatigue as one million
 miles of use on the road hitting potholes etc.
 Rubber bits may give up if it sits long enough and if it is not in a dry
 storage place it may rust but that is more visible than hair line cracks
 in the metal of important bits between you and the road.

 Randy


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Re: [MBZ] CL Idiot of the Day

2012-04-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Seems like a nice little car but lacks styling or pizzazz.

On 4/5/12, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 Sadly, sales people are not always car people and not all that
 knowledgeable.
 They may have had the receptionist enter the ad.

 Randy


 On 05/04/2012 4:49 PM, WILTON wrote:
 A 6 cyl V-8?  How dey do dat?  Two of 8 are not working, or ?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:40 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] CL Idiot of the Day


 The white text in 4pitch font makes the ad really stand out!

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2942200360.html

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?

2012-04-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Gael has his SL parked in the back.  Too bad it's brown (no offense).

Here's the diesel puurge procedue, although one can is more than enough:

http://www.dieselgiant.com/injectorcleaning.htm

On 4/6/12, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Randy - How many miles can you document on your 76 300D?

 On 4/5/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Yeah the Greek cabbies own their own cars and tend to baby them till
 death.
 To this day they still rave about the w123 diesels which have become a
 relative rarity now in the Greek taxi fleet although you still see them
 in
 the more rural parts. Cars there don't rust but they get banged up a lot
 due
 to narrow roads and idiot drivers. As a result body panels are loaded
 with
 bondo and so it's difficult to find a straight car. The Greeks don't know
 a
 damned thing about doing quality body work. They are good mechanics
 though.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Rich Thomas
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I saw a diesel Benz in Greece that had 1.5million miles on it, a taxi,
 thing
 looked almost new.  Owner was on his 3rd engine.  It was a 78 or 80 or
 somewhere along in there.  I think it started as a 220D and he had a 300
 engine in it at the time (don't tell the tax man! he said).  The roads
 there are pretty good, but I am sure it had its share of hard knocks in
 its
 many years.

 I'd be more worried about rust and such than metal fatigue -- wear parts
 need to be replaced as a matter of course.  If potholes are causing
 enough
 hurt on the bits, then the suspension must not be doing its job too well,
 and if it bottoms out or gets pounded hard then something is gonna get
 broken or bent and will need to be replaced.

 --R

 On 4/5/12 10:33 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
 I think my point has been lost.

 I was commenting on the suggestion that cars can become more valuable as
 they accumulate really high mileage. I said I did not really want one of
 those.
 My suggestion was that at some point one must begin to wonder about metal
 fatigue in important parts between one's you know what and the road.
 I have no real concern with 300K miles but at a million, I start to
 wonder
 how many potholes have been pounded through.

 Randy


 On 04/04/2012 7:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 Hairline cracks which cause what exactly?

 Besides if there are cracks they will rust and show themselves.

 -Curt

 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:10:55 -0500
 From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?
 Message-ID:4f7cb8df.5050...@bennell.ca
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 I don't think age is as likely to cause metal fatigue as one million
 miles of use on the road hitting potholes etc.
 Rubber bits may give up if it sits long enough and if it is not in a dry
 storage place it may rust but that is more visible than hair line cracks
 in the metal of important bits between you and the road.

 Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?

2012-04-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I kind of like brown. It's a very period color! It's also very sedate which 
keeps the somewhat flashy car understated.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

Gael has his SL parked in the back.  Too bad it's brown (no offense).

Here's the diesel puurge procedue, although one can is more than enough:

http://www.dieselgiant.com/injectorcleaning.htm

On 4/6/12, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Randy - How many miles can you document on your 76 300D?

On 4/5/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yeah the Greek cabbies own their own cars and tend to baby them till
death.
To this day they still rave about the w123 diesels which have become a
relative rarity now in the Greek taxi fleet although you still see them
in
the more rural parts. Cars there don't rust but they get banged up a lot
due
to narrow roads and idiot drivers. As a result body panels are loaded
with
bondo and so it's difficult to find a straight car. The Greeks don't know
a
damned thing about doing quality body work. They are good mechanics
though.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

I saw a diesel Benz in Greece that had 1.5million miles on it, a taxi,
thing
looked almost new.  Owner was on his 3rd engine.  It was a 78 or 80 or
somewhere along in there.  I think it started as a 220D and he had a 300
engine in it at the time (don't tell the tax man! he said).  The roads
there are pretty good, but I am sure it had its share of hard knocks in
its
many years.

I'd be more worried about rust and such than metal fatigue -- wear parts
need to be replaced as a matter of course.  If potholes are causing
enough
hurt on the bits, then the suspension must not be doing its job too well,
and if it bottoms out or gets pounded hard then something is gonna get
broken or bent and will need to be replaced.

--R

On 4/5/12 10:33 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
I think my point has been lost.

I was commenting on the suggestion that cars can become more valuable as
they accumulate really high mileage. I said I did not really want one of
those.
My suggestion was that at some point one must begin to wonder about metal
fatigue in important parts between one's you know what and the road.
I have no real concern with 300K miles but at a million, I start to
wonder
how many potholes have been pounded through.

Randy


On 04/04/2012 7:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Hairline cracks which cause what exactly?

Besides if there are cracks they will rust and show themselves.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:10:55 -0500
From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?
Message-ID:4f7cb8df.5050...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I don't think age is as likely to cause metal fatigue as one million
miles of use on the road hitting potholes etc.
Rubber bits may give up if it sits long enough and if it is not in a dry
storage place it may rust but that is more visible than hair line cracks
in the metal of important bits between you and the road.

Randy


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[MBZ] OT CL idiot

2012-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
of curse the dowers dont line up haha thats why i take pitcher of them 
to sho u but it is in gud shape u like what you see right?  no loballers 
no loosers cash only drive it off today yo breaks work good


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2931618328.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT CL idiot

2012-04-06 Thread WILTON

'Tawt u be snappin' dat up!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:50 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT CL idiot


of curse the dowers dont line up haha thats why i take pitcher of them 
to sho u but it is in gud shape u like what you see right?  no loballers 
no loosers cash only drive it off today yo breaks work good


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2931618328.html

--R

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[MBZ] Car for Donald?

2012-04-06 Thread Max
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

of curse the dowers dont line up haha thats why i take pitcher of them 
to sho u but it is in gud shape u like what you see right?  no
loballers 
no loosers cash only drive it off today yo breaks work good

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2931618328.html


I think Donald Snook needs this for his kid. 
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
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[MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Knoble
Well, I'm home. My car, a 1992 Mercedes 300D is not... yet. It is a long story, 
for another time. (I should start a blog). Suffice to say, we do NOT live in 
the land of freedom anymore. Interstate commerce is extremely restricted, to 
the point where it is difficult, if not impossible, to purchase a vehicle in 
one state, and drive it home, legally, because of red tape and prohibitive 
laws. You can pay a shipper big money or you can use a trailer and tow it. You 
could use a dealer tag if you could get one (very expensive for a dealers 
license here). If you wanted to take the chance of losing the car to an 
impound, you could put a plate on it from another car. I was not going to take 
that chance. In the state of Indiana the BMV will not issue a temp tag for 
transport from another state to Indiana and in the state of Maryland the BMV 
will not issue a temp tag for transport of a vehicle purchased there to another 
state. Quite a catch 22. Back to square one, with a much lighter wallet. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Benz Hogs
A signed title and BoS isn't good enough anymore?  Who are the numb 
you-know-whats that elected these fools?


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (322,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)

On 4/6/2012 1:54 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

Well, I'm home. My car, a 1992 Mercedes 300D is not... yet. It is a long story, 
for another time. (I should start a blog). Suffice to say, we do NOT live in 
the land of freedom anymore. Interstate commerce is extremely restricted, to 
the point where it is difficult, if not impossible, to purchase a vehicle in 
one state, and drive it home, legally, because of red tape and prohibitive 
laws. You can pay a shipper big money or you can use a trailer and tow it. You 
could use a dealer tag if you could get one (very expensive for a dealers 
license here). If you wanted to take the chance of losing the car to an 
impound, you could put a plate on it from another car. I was not going to take 
that chance. In the state of Indiana the BMV will not issue a temp tag for 
transport from another state to Indiana and in the state of Maryland the BMV 
will not issue a temp tag for transport of a vehicle purchased there to another 
state. Quite a catch 22. Back to square one, with a much lighter wallet.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So you bought the car but can't get it home? I have bought many cars our of 
state and never had a problem

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On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Well, I'm home. My car, a 1992 Mercedes 300D is not... yet. It is a long 
 story, for another time. (I should start a blog). Suffice to say, we do NOT 
 live in the land of freedom anymore. Interstate commerce is extremely 
 restricted, to the point where it is difficult, if not impossible, to 
 purchase a vehicle in one state, and drive it home, legally, because of red 
 tape and prohibitive laws. You can pay a shipper big money or you can use a 
 trailer and tow it. You could use a dealer tag if you could get one (very 
 expensive for a dealers license here). If you wanted to take the chance of 
 losing the car to an impound, you could put a plate on it from another car. I 
 was not going to take that chance. In the state of Indiana the BMV will not 
 issue a temp tag for transport from another state to Indiana and in the state 
 of Maryland the BMV will not issue a temp tag for transport of a vehicle 
 purchased there to another state. Quite a catch 22. Back to square one, with 
 a much lighter wallet. 
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread clay monroe
well, that is worse than a sucking chest wound.  Sorry that you have met with 
the idiocy of our local and state government.  I would offer to trailer it for 
you, but I have neither trailer nor truck.

Does the car have MD tags?  I could send you tags from my w124.  Old and 
washington state, but cursory check by smokey will have it come back to same 
model car as yours.

clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







On Apr 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 Well, I'm home. My car, a 1992 Mercedes 300D is not... yet. It is a long 
 story, for another time. (I should start a blog). Suffice to say, we do NOT 
 live in the land of freedom anymore. Interstate commerce is extremely 
 restricted, to the point where it is difficult, if not impossible, to 
 purchase a vehicle in one state, and drive it home, legally, because of red 
 tape and prohibitive laws. You can pay a shipper big money or you can use a 
 trailer and tow it. You could use a dealer tag if you could get one (very 
 expensive for a dealers license here). If you wanted to take the chance of 
 losing the car to an impound, you could put a plate on it from another car. I 
 was not going to take that chance. In the state of Indiana the BMV will not 
 issue a temp tag for transport from another state to Indiana and in the state 
 of Maryland the BMV will not issue a temp tag for transport of a vehicle 
 purchased there to another state. Quite a catch 22. Back to square one, with 
 a much lighter wallet. 
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?

2012-04-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
To each his own, eh?

The saying, there is no disputing taste [[de gustibus non est
disputandum] should rightfully be there is no disputing MY taste,
although my brother's interpreation is that the true meaning is there
is no disputing  [good] taste.

Andrew
1983 300TD tasteful white/blue
1985 300TD flawless diamond blue/blue

On 4/6/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I kind of like brown. It's a very period color! It's also very sedate which
 keeps the somewhat flashy car understated.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gael has his SL parked in the back.  Too bad it's brown (no offense).

 Here's the diesel puurge procedue, although one can is more than enough:

 http://www.dieselgiant.com/injectorcleaning.htm

 On 4/6/12, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Randy - How many miles can you document on your 76 300D?

 On 4/5/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Yeah the Greek cabbies own their own cars and tend to baby them till
 death.
 To this day they still rave about the w123 diesels which have become a
 relative rarity now in the Greek taxi fleet although you still see them
 in
 the more rural parts. Cars there don't rust but they get banged up a lot
 due
 to narrow roads and idiot drivers. As a result body panels are loaded
 with
 bondo and so it's difficult to find a straight car. The Greeks don't know
 a
 damned thing about doing quality body work. They are good mechanics
 though.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Rich Thomas
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I saw a diesel Benz in Greece that had 1.5million miles on it, a taxi,
 thing
 looked almost new.  Owner was on his 3rd engine.  It was a 78 or 80 or
 somewhere along in there.  I think it started as a 220D and he had a 300
 engine in it at the time (don't tell the tax man! he said).  The roads
 there are pretty good, but I am sure it had its share of hard knocks in
 its
 many years.

 I'd be more worried about rust and such than metal fatigue -- wear parts
 need to be replaced as a matter of course.  If potholes are causing
 enough
 hurt on the bits, then the suspension must not be doing its job too well,
 and if it bottoms out or gets pounded hard then something is gonna get
 broken or bent and will need to be replaced.

 --R

 On 4/5/12 10:33 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
 I think my point has been lost.

 I was commenting on the suggestion that cars can become more valuable as
 they accumulate really high mileage. I said I did not really want one of
 those.
 My suggestion was that at some point one must begin to wonder about metal
 fatigue in important parts between one's you know what and the road.
 I have no real concern with 300K miles but at a million, I start to
 wonder
 how many potholes have been pounded through.

 Randy


 On 04/04/2012 7:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 Hairline cracks which cause what exactly?

 Besides if there are cracks they will rust and show themselves.

 -Curt

 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:10:55 -0500
 From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?
 Message-ID:4f7cb8df.5050...@bennell.ca
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 I don't think age is as likely to cause metal fatigue as one million
 miles of use on the road hitting potholes etc.
 Rubber bits may give up if it sits long enough and if it is not in a dry
 storage place it may rust but that is more visible than hair line cracks
 in the metal of important bits between you and the road.

 Randy


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[MBZ] Diesel Battery replasement

2012-04-06 Thread clay monroe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9tRR-QjVjU

pretty good


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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Some sellers insist on keeping both tags, but most will let you mail
them back when you arrive at your destination.  There are exceptions,
however.  The selelr of my 1985 300TD insisted on keeping one tag for
his other vehicle, so after I parked it on the DC streets for a couple
days sure enough, I collected a ticket for not having both front and
rear plates.  I decided to ignore the ticket, and this eventually
caused grief to the PO a year or so later.  When I heard about it I
ended up reimbursing him the $100 fine.  That's how 1) dumb and 2)
honest I am.

On 4/6/12, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 well, that is worse than a sucking chest wound.  Sorry that you have met
 with the idiocy of our local and state government.  I would offer to trailer
 it for you, but I have neither trailer nor truck.

 Does the car have MD tags?  I could send you tags from my w124.  Old and
 washington state, but cursory check by smokey will have it come back to same
 model car as yours.

 clay


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 On Apr 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 Well, I'm home. My car, a 1992 Mercedes 300D is not... yet. It is a long
 story, for another time. (I should start a blog). Suffice to say, we do
 NOT live in the land of freedom anymore. Interstate commerce is extremely
 restricted, to the point where it is difficult, if not impossible, to
 purchase a vehicle in one state, and drive it home, legally, because of
 red tape and prohibitive laws. You can pay a shipper big money or you can
 use a trailer and tow it. You could use a dealer tag if you could get one
 (very expensive for a dealers license here). If you wanted to take the
 chance of losing the car to an impound, you could put a plate on it from
 another car. I was not going to take that chance. In the state of Indiana
 the BMV will not issue a temp tag for transport from another state to
 Indiana and in the state of Maryland the BMV will not issue a temp tag for
 transport of a vehicle purchased there to another state. Quite a catch 22.
 Back to square one, with a much lighter wallet.

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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
Having not actually met you, I don't know if you are Asian, but if you 
aren't you should have asked Marion Barry to help you fix it.  In DC I 
am sure that is fairly ea$y to do.


--R

On 4/6/12 3:23 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Some sellers insist on keeping both tags, but most will let you mail
them back when you arrive at your destination.  There are exceptions,
however.  The selelr of my 1985 300TD insisted on keeping one tag for
his other vehicle, so after I parked it on the DC streets for a couple
days sure enough, I collected a ticket for not having both front and
rear plates.  I decided to ignore the ticket, and this eventually
caused grief to the PO a year or so later.  When I heard about it I
ended up reimbursing him the $100 fine.  That's how 1) dumb and 2)
honest I am.



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[MBZ] FA Porsche

2012-04-06 Thread RELNGSON

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/ferdinand-alexander-porsche-designer-porsche-911-dies-76-194330668.html

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread John Reames
I know that if you live in Maryland you can get a permanent tag with a 6 month 
registration for a car purchased out of state. You cannot renew the 
registration until you bring in an inspection certificate.

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On Apr 6, 2012, at 14:54, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Well, I'm home. My car, a 1992 Mercedes 300D is not... yet. It is a long 
 story, for another time. (I should start a blog). Suffice to say, we do NOT 
 live in the land of freedom anymore. Interstate commerce is extremely 
 restricted, to the point where it is difficult, if not impossible, to 
 purchase a vehicle in one state, and drive it home, legally, because of red 
 tape and prohibitive laws. You can pay a shipper big money or you can use a 
 trailer and tow it. You could use a dealer tag if you could get one (very 
 expensive for a dealers license here). If you wanted to take the chance of 
 losing the car to an impound, you could put a plate on it from another car. I 
 was not going to take that chance. In the state of Indiana the BMV will not 
 issue a temp tag for transport from another state to Indiana and in the state 
 of Maryland the BMV will not issue a temp tag for transport of a vehicle 
 purchased there to another state. Quite a catch 22. Back to square one, with 
 a much lighter wallet. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

 A signed title and BoS isn't good enough anymore?

Nope. Have to have a tag of some sort. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
I looked into this in detail when I bought the 92 300E from Tony earlier in the 
year.

In the case of Florida, they provide no means for purchasing a car out of state 
and having valid tags for it, unless you are a dealer.

Pennsylvania offers temporary tags to the buyer at their expense, but if my 
memory serves me correctly, the price is pretty outrageous, like $90 (correct 
me if I am wrong, Tony.)

I did what I have always done: Take the tags off another car I own, or tags 
from a car I sold if I was buying a replacement, proof of insurance and a 
signed bill of sale along with the fully executed title, and go.

Sure, the law could probably give you fits if they wanted, but it's a 
calculated risk that is pretty small in my opinion.

Dan

Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

A signed title and BoS isn't good enough anymore?  Who are the numb 
you-know-whats that elected these fools?

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (322,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)

On 4/6/2012 1:54 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
 Well, I'm home. My car, a 1992 Mercedes 300D is not... yet. It is a long 
 story, for another time. (I should start a blog). Suffice to say, we do NOT 
 live in the land of freedom anymore. Interstate commerce is extremely 
 restricted, to the point where it is difficult, if not impossible, to 
 purchase a vehicle in one state, and drive it home, legally, because of red 
 tape and prohibitive laws. You can pay a shipper big money or you can use a 
 trailer and tow it. You could use a dealer tag if you could get one (very 
 expensive for a dealers license here). If you wanted to take the chance of 
 losing the car to an impound, you could put a plate on it from another car. 
 I was not going to take that chance. In the state of Indiana the BMV will 
 not issue a temp tag for transport from another state to Indiana and in the 
 state of Maryland the BMV will not issue a temp tag for transport of a 
 vehicle purchased there to another state. Quite a catch 22. Back to square 
 one, with a much lighter wallet.

 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 So you bought the car but can't get it home? 

Not with no license tags. 

 I have bought many cars our of state and never had a problem

You are one or more of the following. 
1. Extremely lucky. 
2. Have access to dealer plates. 
3. Put them on a trailer. 
4. Live in a state that will issue a drive it home tag. 
5. Have a silver tongued sales pitch to talk your way out of anything. 
6. Never bought a car in Maryland and drove it home. 
7. Aren't a dumb a$$ like me. 

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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:23 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some sellers insist on keeping both tags, but most will let you mail
 them back when you arrive at your destination.


I have done that in the past. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 6, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Having not actually met you, I don't know if you are Asian, but if you aren't 
 you should have asked Marion Barry to help you fix it.  In DC I am sure that 
 is fairly ea$y to do.


I am of Swiss/German decent. I don't think that would have much influence over 
the former mayor of DC. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I did what I have always done: Take the tags off another car I own, or tags 
 from a car I sold if I was buying a replacement, proof of insurance and a 
 signed bill of sale along with the fully executed title, and go.


In retrospect, that is probably what I should've done. However, fictitious 
plates will get the car impounded if you get pulled over. Then the problems 
increase exponentially.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Allan Streib
I see cars driving around without plates all the time.  Cops don't seem
to give 'em much notice.  I'm guessing even if they did, most would cut
you a break as long as you had all the sales documentation and weren't
violating any traffic laws.

Allan

Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com writes:

 On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 So you bought the car but can't get it home? 

 Not with no license tags. 

 I have bought many cars our of state and never had a problem

 You are one or more of the following. 
 1. Extremely lucky. 
 2. Have access to dealer plates. 
 3. Put them on a trailer. 
 4. Live in a state that will issue a drive it home tag. 
 5. Have a silver tongued sales pitch to talk your way out of anything. 
 6. Never bought a car in Maryland and drove it home. 
 7. Aren't a dumb a$$ like me. 

 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
In Florida you can transfer plates, so if I was to get stopped out of state I 
would just show the registration and explain what I was doing and that the 
plates were being transferred upon my return.

I can't imagine that with all the supporting documentation they would impound 
the vehicle.

I did get stopped in rural VA doing just that with a 1970 280S and they didn't 
bat an eye. And this was with some small town Barney Fife, too.

Are you maybe being a little paranoid?

Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I did what I have always done: Take the tags off another car I own, or tags 
 from a car I sold if I was buying a replacement, proof of insurance and a 
 signed bill of sale along with the fully executed title, and go.


In retrospect, that is probably what I should've done. However, fictitious 
plates will get the car impounded if you get pulled over. Then the problems 
increase exponentially.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Max
I think the major concern is to get the required documents to register the car 
once you get home.  When I bought my Ebay 300TD, I drive from New Jersey to 
South Carolina with no plates, just signed title, bill of sale, proof of 
insurance, and the Ebay receipt.  Didn't get stopped, no problems.
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Car for Donald?

2012-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Max wrote:

I think Donald Snook needs this for his kid. 


In fifteen years or so, when the kid's 16, Don will probably already have it 
entirely put right.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread OK Don
That's how they caught Timothy McVey - he was driving without plates (also
without a license, with a loaded hand gun beside him on the seat with no
permit). It was the next day before they linked him ti the bombing ---

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I see cars driving around without plates all the time.  Cops don't seem
 to give 'em much notice.



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Re: [MBZ] Car for Donald?

2012-04-06 Thread OK Don
No, he'd fix it in six months and sell it -- I wonder how many cars he's
gone through since we lsat heard from him?

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 Max wrote:

  I think Donald Snook needs this for his kid.


 In fifteen years or so, when the kid's 16, Don will probably already have
 it entirely put right.

 Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:

On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:


A signed title and BoS isn't good enough anymore?


Nope. Have to have a tag of some sort. 


In Michigan, I have three days in which I can drive it around with no plate, 
until I can get myself to the Secretary of State to transfer the title and plate 
it.
That works for cross country trips if you get the bill of sale the same day you 
drive away, and if you go straight home. If you buy it in January and drive it 
home in April, those three days might be long gone.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:


In retrospect, that is probably what I should've done. However, fictitious plates will 
get the car impounded if you get pulled over. Then the problems increase 
exponentially.


The 4matic wagon came home with a plate that expired last December, which was 
registered to a 2.3-16v until it expired. I assumed that


1. out of state cops wouldn't know the current Michigan plates have a green, not 
orange, sticker.


2. If I did get pulled over, an expired plate wouldn't be considered criminal 
misuse of a plate.


2a. A few years ago, a bored cop rolled up behind me at a stop sign, punched my 
plate into his computer, and decided that my Taurus was the funniest looking 
Mercedes he'd ever seen. He was a polite enough fellow, even allowed me to drive 
it home instead of making me tow it, but he actually wrote it up as a 
misdemeanor criminal citation. The prosecuting attorney dropped it to a civil 
infraction, and I paid about $100.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
If I do say so, I think you were being overly cautious to the point of being 
excessive.  I'm not piling on here, just saying that from my experience as long 
as you had enough supporting documentation to show you were the legal owner of 
the car, no out of state cop is going to make a big deal out of it - it's too 
much hassle for them, unless you're acting suspicious or doing something you 
shouldn't be.

Case in point - when I got pulled over in the 280S, I had a Florida tag that 
was propped up in the back window with a rolled up sweatshirt.  It had fallen 
down but was still visible from the outside of the car.

Unbeknownst to me, I was traveling on a two lane state highway from Norfolk to 
I-95 that was a corridor for drug traffickers, many of which were from - you 
guessed it - Florida.

When I got pulled over I turned into a McDonald's parking lot, knowing that if 
there was going to be a scene, it wouldn't take place in a crowded public 
place.  The two officers came out with guns drawn and asked me to exit the car 
with ID and registration.  I did so, but refused to allow them to search the 
car or open the trunk, mainly because I knew they had no probable cause (this 
was a typical Terry stop.)

They were not nice and gave me a bit of a hard time.  I was respectful but 
firm, even though they tried the walk away and Oh by the way tactic to get me 
to say something to give them probable cause. This is where you're free to go 
but are asked some apparently innocuous questions, which are no longer a part 
of the traffic stop, as you're supposedly doing this willingly.  At that point 
they can come back and attempt to claim you gave consent.

You don't have any drugs in that car, do ya?  I ignored them, which pissed 
them off even more, but I suspect also made them realize I wasn't going to be 
cooperative.  At that point they left me alone.

I went in the McDonald's and got a cold beverage, during which the locals who 
had watched the confrontation stared at me until I left...

I drove back to Florida without incident.

Interestingly, it seemed strange that they would stop a Florida car that was 
heading out of town, rather than in...

Dan

On Apr 6, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

 Rick Knoble wrote:
 
 In retrospect, that is probably what I should've done. However, fictitious 
 plates will get the car impounded if you get pulled over. Then the 
 problems increase exponentially.
 
 The 4matic wagon came home with a plate that expired last December, which was 
 registered to a 2.3-16v until it expired. I assumed that
 
 1. out of state cops wouldn't know the current Michigan plates have a green, 
 not orange, sticker.
 
 2. If I did get pulled over, an expired plate wouldn't be considered criminal 
 misuse of a plate.
 
 2a. A few years ago, a bored cop rolled up behind me at a stop sign, punched 
 my plate into his computer, and decided that my Taurus was the funniest 
 looking Mercedes he'd ever seen. He was a polite enough fellow, even allowed 
 me to drive it home instead of making me tow it, but he actually wrote it up 
 as a misdemeanor criminal citation. The prosecuting attorney dropped it to a 
 civil infraction, and I paid about $100.
 
 Mitch.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control

2012-04-06 Thread Dieselhead
I am not sure of the specs needed.  I have been trying to find out. 
The application is a bench scale electrocoagulation unit.


These are too small:
www.testequipmentconnection.com/tecspecs/Agilent-HP_E3610A.PDF

Here is a paper that explains the process.  The DC power supply is 
described in 2.1 on page 4066:

44.206.159.178/ft/1092/72646/1241702.pdf

TIA for any and all assistance



On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:27:34 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 Alles:

 I need a source for a  25 Amp 110 volt AC (input) variable linear DC
 voltage control.

 A listing of components to build one would be ok too.

 Could I build such a thing out of one of the variacs I have with a
 full wave bridge rectifier?  What else might be needed for this
 approach?


It depends on what quality of DC power you need and how you are going to
use it.

If you don't mind the DC not being grounded, are careful with isolation
of the output to ground, and don't want accurate regulation, all you need
is a full wave bridge rectifier and a big hairy capacitor, BHC (tm). You
will need to be careful you don't exceed the voltage rating of the
capacitor.

Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control

2012-04-06 Thread Craig
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:38:08 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not sure of the specs needed.  I have been trying to find out. 
 The application is a bench scale electrocoagulation unit.

Sounds like it might prefer fairly good quality DC.


 These are too small:
 www.testequipmentconnection.com/tecspecs/Agilent-HP_E3610A.PDF
 
 Here is a paper that explains the process.  The DC power supply is 
 described in 2.1 on page 4066:
 44.206.159.178/ft/1092/72646/1241702.pdf

That URL doesn't load for me. Perhaps you can copy and paste?


 TIA for any and all assistance

I'll try ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control

2012-04-06 Thread Dieselhead

The 1 got cut off the front.  Try this:
144.206.159.178/ft/1092/72646/1241702.pdf



On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:38:08 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am not sure of the specs needed.  I have been trying to find out.
 The application is a bench scale electrocoagulation unit.


Sounds like it might prefer fairly good quality DC.



 These are too small:
 www.testequipmentconnection.com/tecspecs/Agilent-HP_E3610A.PDF

 Here is a paper that explains the process.  The DC power supply is
 described in 2.1 on page 4066:
 44.206.159.178/ft/1092/72646/1241702.pdf


That URL doesn't load for me. Perhaps you can copy and paste?



 TIA for any and all assistance


I'll try ...


Craig

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[MBZ] It just keeps getting better

2012-04-06 Thread clay monroe
Today decided to hold off rain until after sun down.  That worked well for me.

With the passenger seat out, I took over the garage as restoration area.  No 
padding upgrade yet, just needed a space to store the thing while I did rust 
remediation on the back footwell area.  With the seat out, I have access front 
to back on that side.

Put the seat on its side and sanded off the rust and sticky stuff.  Clean it up 
and gloss it with rust stop rattle can.  It is not hot in there, so I snag a 
little space heater and aim it toward the chair to at least get it warm enough 
to put a second coat and then a black color coat.   When that dried, two light 
coats of clear.  Hit the tool cabinet and grab the tube of Rail Lube I found at 
PnP ages ago.  

I have not been looking at the seat cover, since I have it masked with 
newspaper to reduce overspray.  Let the thing dry and cure for the afternoon 
while I take the wire wheel to the rear footwell and find it to be fairly 
sound, except for the angle to the back riser.  Rust has eaten through along 
the crease/seam and will need patching.  Prep for POR, then head out to lunch 
in the sun, allowing the surface to get bone dry.

Come back and coat the bare metal thoroughly, as well as seams and up the sides 
where the seat will go back in.  Move forward and second coat the area I hit 
yesterday.  While that sets up, I snag a few fiberglass patches and work them 
over the gaps and pits in back.  Saturated, so I head under the bonnet and coat 
the battery tray.  Now the waiting game and musical chairs of who is dry and 
tacky enough for another coat?I have three total on the front footwell, two 
at back and two on the battery tray.  Time to go inside and figure out if I 
want dinner.

Ended up going through the boxes of fleabay and Rusty goodies that are sitting 
on the front porch.  Got sample of color choices in paint and interior, some 
decals, and the plugs and wires from Rusty.  Second time in as many orders, the 
box is short.  Whiskey Tango?  Missing trans kit came today, warehouse did not 
put it in the box with first order.  Now one of the two breather hoses did not 
make the ride out.  At least the packing slip shows it was not in the box.

Open the large box that holds the headrests.  Old ones are shot.  The pointy 
ends have been worn down and would like to be pointy once more.  Head to the 
garage to grab a headrest and remove the old.  Another surprise.  The thing is 
horsehair stuffed.  Metal skeleton, horsehair surrounding a foam core.  AND THE 
SKIN of the 'rest is LEATHER!  Dang!  My seats are leather.  This is pretty 
cool, but going to be expensive to deal with.  Not sure I feel up to dragging 
the old horsehair pads out and putting fresh inside leather.  Tex would 
expand/stretch, but leather that has not been fed in ages is going to be a huge 
hassle.

The new pad insert is too fat to allow the cover to go back on.  Will need to 
sculpt it internally to get better fitment.  Maybe I let the upholstery fellow 
do that.  I have leather care product, so I fed the head rest cover.  Will have 
to use lexol stuff on the seat tomorrow.




clay 


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1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 6, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I can't imagine that with all the supporting documentation they would impound 
 the vehicle.
 
 Are you maybe being a little paranoid?


Paranoid no. Cautious yes. I picked my car up in Salisbury MD and I was pulled 
over by the MSP in Cambridge MD. The young LT. That pulled me over had to run 
to another call, and another more senior, but lesser ranking officer was left 
to tend to my Benz and me. He was in his fifties like me and he was very 
empathetic with my predicament. He had to have the car towed and he wrote me 
the least ticket he could possibly write. He personally called the owner of the 
owner of the towing company, a Mr. Jeff Hurley, and told him the I was a good 
man with a bad predicament and to help me in any way he could. Mr. Hurley 
informed me that it was a good thing that I didn't get stopped with fictitious 
plates, because the car would've been impounded and I would've went to the 
pokey. Jeff looked online for shippers and within a few minutes I had 5 bids to 
ship the car, all of which I might add were cheaper than any quote I had 
received from Uship dot com earlier in January. He would not tell me the site 
he used, but seeing as he owns a body shop and a multi million dollar recovery 
and towing company, I suspect he has considerably better access than I as a 
consumer do to better shippers. 

As I said earlier, I should've pulled the plate from my 300d, and stuck that 
on. I wasn't doing anything wrong other than  no plate, so I wouldn't have been 
pulled over. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
 As I said earlier, I should've pulled the
 plate from my 300d, and stuck that on.

And no such shenanigans would be necessary, and nothing bad would have
happened, if you lived in one of the West Coast states where once a car is
registered the license plates are associated with that VIN and stay on it
for good, regardless of who owns it.  As a lifelong resident of Oregon and
sometimes Washington I find this whole system of tags go with the seller
baffling and illogical.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-06 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Hate to be the guy who buys a car some dumbcrap owned, and gets mistook for
him because of the plates...

Walt
On Apr 7, 2012 1:28 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

  As I said earlier, I should've pulled the
  plate from my 300d, and stuck that on.

 And no such shenanigans would be necessary, and nothing bad would have
 happened, if you lived in one of the West Coast states where once a car is
 registered the license plates are associated with that VIN and stay on it
 for good, regardless of who owns it.  As a lifelong resident of Oregon and
 sometimes Washington I find this whole system of tags go with the seller
 baffling and illogical.

 Alex
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