Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
Solar outdoor lights using the new, bright, low wattage l.e.d. arrays are widely available down here in Florida. Most are reliable and long lasting; the only maintainence cost being a rechargeable battery replacement every couple of years. You can spend $100 for a professional grade or much less (see link). Neighbor has had one of the original types at the end of her drive for 15 years that I know of and never did anything but replace the batteries. Your experiences in the lands of ice and snow may vary. http://www.outdoorsolarstore.com/watchdog-solar-security-light.aspx?gclid=CMWS8ar0uK8CFQSEnQodUC4Khg http://www.amazon.com/Sunforce-82150-Solar-Motion-Light/dp/B000FIWKR8 Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1951 Mercedes Benz 170 S (Milford, Ct.)
I went there to take a look and all I heard were crickets. Looks like the last post was sometime in February. Are they all dead? Dan On Apr 15, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Grant wrote: Just a question. What would be a fair market value for a barn find totally complete, Arizona no rust 170 ? 170220.org This is a mercedes forum for these cars. Join and ask the question at their forum, or read the forums and there might be an indication of what value these cars might fetch these days. Jim Axman, Littleton, CO is one of the founding guys of that forum. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
Thanks, Gerry. This looks just like what I need. My only thing is that I don't want the motion detection stuff, so I would probably have to go in and disable it and add a toggle switch, which I suspect would be no big deal. Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:28 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Solar outdoor lights using the new, bright, low wattage l.e.d. arrays are widely available down here in Florida. Most are reliable and long lasting; the only maintainence cost being a rechargeable battery replacement every couple of years. You can spend $100 for a professional grade or much less (see link). Neighbor has had one of the original types at the end of her drive for 15 years that I know of and never did anything but replace the batteries. Your experiences in the lands of ice and snow may vary. http://www.outdoorsolarstore.com/watchdog-solar-security-light.aspx?gclid=CMWS8ar0uK8CFQSEnQodUC4Khg http://www.amazon.com/Sunforce-82150-Solar-Motion-Light/dp/B000FIWKR8 Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap fan clutch rebuild
I've been doing some thinking and some reading, and it may be that this viscous fan clutch is _not_ thermostatic. It may in fact be only RPM-sensitive and is intended to couple at idle speeds and decouple at higher speeds, making the assumption that the car is moving when the engine revs up. The fins on its body might be just for dissipating the heat from the clutch slippage itself. This would make some sense, I suppose, but I doubt it's as useful as a more elaborate clutch. Perhaps that's why we don't see this kind anymore. Still, it's probably perfect for _this_ car, given how it's used. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
Could be, he would have to check and see. --R On 4/15/12 8:57 PM, MG wrote: I don't believe that would be up to code. I believe that a dedicated circuit to the outside condenser unit of an AC system is just three wires. Two conductors to provide the 220v and a ground. If you want to put a sub-panel in place of the AC evaporator disconnect and then run the evaporator and other circuits off of that you will need to add an extra wire, correctly sized, to carry the neutral. In other words you will need two conductors for the 220, a neutral and a ground. Four wires in all. Just went through that with the well and wanting to do an extra outlet out there at the well. Mind, on the old house there is just an outlet off the 220 wire to the pump. I mentioned that to the inspector and he said I'm glad I didn't hear that or I would have to check it and have it changed. Very nice guy, he's helped me a lot in my building. Manfred Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:57:33 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary You can tap off the AC line if you send it to another outdoor breaker/subpanel thence to whatever and have at it. As long as everything has the proper size wire, breakers (rated at same/less than the feed), and enclosures you should be OK. Or buy an outdoor subpanel (rated at whatever your feed to the AC unit is, probably 40A or 50A?) that has like 4 or 6 breaker spaces in it, feed it with your AC line where it comes out of the house (and mount the subpanel near there), then come off that with your AC unit feed and the outdoor circuit(s) (and use GFCI breakers) and maybe a 220V plug there somewhere too (there is actually another box you can buy with the 220V plug and 2-110V 20A plugs in it) should you need to do some welding out there! I have something like that right now on my temporary pole. The box is not that expensive, and breakers are reasonable. I presume there is a breaker at the main panel already to handle the AC unit, that line can feed your subpanel just fine (my heat pump actually has a second breaker box off the main feed to it for the heat strips). I'll take a pic tomorrow of my temp set up and send it to you. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - annoying drivers
Rolling roadblock, aggressive driving. On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:10 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Reminded today of an annoying type driver: 'Came up behind two lanes (2 packs) of backed up traffic on US 70W headed toward Raleigh and east of I-40; divided four lanes (2 each way); speed limit 55 MPH; each pack driving about 53 MPH. The annoying driver and the one causing the backed up traffic in BOTH lanes was the one in front of the inside lane pack driving along BESIDE and at same speed as the lead driver in the right lane. This annoyance lasted for nearly 10 miles. 'Saw lotsa frustration in front of me, too; one lane and then the other would tend to creep ahead of the other for a bit, and some drivers took this as an indication they they may be able to get past and be on their way only to be disappointed and begin to fall back with the new pack after they had switched lanes; switch lanes again - same deal there. Packs finally cleared up after leader of left lane pack turned left and finally got the Hell outta the way. 'Saw lotsa useless brake and brake light wear in front of me. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - annoying drivers
On another aspect, my wife was driving up to Chapel Hill the other day, and out in the middle of nowhere on I95 she had a LF blowout on the Suburban. From her description I thought it might have been a puncture from something on the road, she was not sure but she thought she heard something hit the inner fender, or something indicating an acute failure. Anyway, she called AAA and they put on the spare. The tires were getting to the point they needed to be replaced, so she had that done up there, and they put the blown-out tire in a bag for her to bring home to show me. I took one look at it, and right in the middle of the tread was perfect 1/4 punched hole, with a circle around it about 1.25 diameter, looked like a bolt or something had hit it straight on. She probably heard the bolt hit the fender when it got thrown out. The tire was totally destroyed, the sidewalls ripped open most of the way around, radially, and a good part of the tread belt was separated from both sides. So it just decompressed almost immediately from that puncture and almost totally shredded. It kinda freaked her out, but she managed to get the truck off the road OK and not lose (loose) control or anything. Teaching her to change a tire is a futile effort, and probably safer anyway to have someone come to do it on that road. $800 for a new set of tires installed...damn those things have got expensive. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '85 300TD smoking upon cold startup
Although I can't currently read the okiebenz list as I'm receiving the digests w/o any TOC and it's just a pain to go through but I thought I'd post the results of my official procedure with two cans of Diesel Purge - no change/effect other than the small fuel filter contained lots of small particulates (carbon?). G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Franken SL?
I am sure he has no idea what it is and looked on the interwebs for pictures. Pretty far stray for a finger to hit the 1 instead of 3 clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Apr 15, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/pts/2947473780.html Where'd the other two cylinders go? Maybe they rusted off while it was sitting out in the rain. Not that it rains much in Seattle... Perhaps he meant OM603? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap fan clutch rebuild
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:23:30 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I've been doing some thinking and some reading, and it may be that this viscous fan clutch is _not_ thermostatic. It may in fact be only RPM-sensitive and is intended to couple at idle speeds and decouple at higher speeds, making the assumption that the car is moving when the engine revs up. The fins on its body might be just for dissipating the heat from the clutch slippage itself. This would make some sense, I suppose, but I doubt it's as useful as a more elaborate clutch. Perhaps that's why we don't see this kind anymore. Still, it's probably perfect for _this_ car, given how it's used. Interesting commentary on fan clutches. RPM-sensitive reminds me about the old fiberglass-bladed clutch a friend put on a Ford 302 in a Sunbeam Tiger. The blades were flexible enough that at high RPM they flattened out and moved less air. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - annoying drivers
Glad to hear the only damage was the checkbook! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Pump Not Delivering
Just one more thought: The bolt that holds the fuel pump cam appears to also hold the cam sprocket on the end of the camshaft. If this bolt is loose enough for the fuel pump cam to spin, I'd be concerned about the sprocket coming loose too. I suspect your guess is right about the dowel pin, either it sheared or worked lose because the reman cut corners. Looks like you have two options: continue with the electric pump and hope for the best or do some difficult engine work. I guess it depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle and how much you depend on it. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Herrman Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:46 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fuel Pump Not Delivering Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote In googling around on this, I found the following advice: One last thing, even if you are not using the mechanical fuel pump, install the fuel pump drive anyway. It will keep the cam bolt from loosening up. Also, the drive pin in the cam sprocket must be 1 5/8 long and made from chrome moly steel. These are available from Dove. On this page: http://www.doveengineparts.com/documents/31.html So it sounds like there is a fuel pump drive (like a cam?) bolted to the gear on the front end of the cam shaft and maybe this came lose on your engine. Here's a photo: http://www.hotrod.com/webonly_january/photo_14.html If this puppy is running around lose inside the gear vault, I'd be concerned. Looks like it would be a pig to fix with the engine installed. Scott, a couple of observations on your submission. - Your link to the Hot Rod Magazine article was helpful in seeing what this part of the engine looks like. The first picture you see shows the rebuilder with his hand on the fuel pump eccentric. The block is upside down, so the fuel pump attaches to the (missing) timing case cover on the left, lower part of the photo. Two other pictures in this article show the timing cover in place, one picture showing a cover plate over the hole, and the other picture showing nothing over the hole where the pump bolts on. These pictures make it easy to visualize the fuel pump mechanically actuated by means of the fuel pump rocker arm and an eccentric on the camshaft (Quote from the factory shop manual). It is easy for me to imagine a shoddy rebuilder having inserted an improper dowel which comes loose (along with possibly the bolt) and allows the eccentric to fail to push the rocker arm (this is a rebuilt engine). I'll bet the dowel in there is/was not chrome moly steel. Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.comwrote: I'm wondering if you can just stick a finger in there through the pump hole and see if anything feels loose. Scott, good suggestion, but I tried that and my hand wouldn't reach that far back into that small hole. Jerry 240D 72 Ford F250 __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7056 (20120415) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Makes this one seem like a bit of a bargain: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2929674404.html Dave SoCal '82 240D (3 pedal) '84 300TD (Euro) '85 300TD (Cali) On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
These cars are fetching some crazy money. Andrew's going to strike it rich if he sells his pair! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote: Makes this one seem like a bit of a bargain: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2929674404.html Dave SoCal '82 240D (3 pedal) '84 300TD (Euro) '85 300TD (Cali) On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Andrew is keeping his cars forever, by which time they will have greatly appreciated in value... On 4/16/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: These cars are fetching some crazy money. Andrew's going to strike it rich if he sells his pair! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote: Makes this one seem like a bit of a bargain: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2929674404.html Dave SoCal '82 240D (3 pedal) '84 300TD (Euro) '85 300TD (Cali) On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Looks like you're going to have to buy an underpowered 240D with crank windows as a daily driver and keep your wagons in a bubble. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:31 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew is keeping his cars forever, by which time they will have greatly appreciated in value... On 4/16/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: These cars are fetching some crazy money. Andrew's going to strike it rich if he sells his pair! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote: Makes this one seem like a bit of a bargain: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2929674404.html Dave SoCal '82 240D (3 pedal) '84 300TD (Euro) '85 300TD (Cali) On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
I stil can't get rid of the sweet toasty burning smell that comes through the heater vents once the ACC engages while the engine is warm, despite having addressed all oily areas by degreasing the engine compartment pretty thoroughly Any ideas? On 4/16/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like you're going to have to buy an underpowered 240D with crank windows as a daily driver and keep your wagons in a bubble. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:31 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew is keeping his cars forever, by which time they will have greatly appreciated in value... On 4/16/12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: These cars are fetching some crazy money. Andrew's going to strike it rich if he sells his pair! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote: Makes this one seem like a bit of a bargain: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2929674404.html Dave SoCal '82 240D (3 pedal) '84 300TD (Euro) '85 300TD (Cali) On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
There may be some residue in there that needs to be cleaned up. Or, there might be something foreign in there. For example, I put a heater core in my old Chevy pickup a number of years back. The rubber packing around it was shot and I used a piece of carpet underlay as a replacement. It was a bad idea as everytime the heat was on, it smelled of rubber. I never did take it apart again to try a different type of padding. I sold the truck and the new owner is probably wondering why he has that smell when the heat is on. Randy On 16/04/2012 1:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I stil can't get rid of the sweet toasty burning smell that comes through the heater vents once the ACC engages while the engine is warm, despite having addressed all oily areas by degreasing the engine compartment pretty thoroughly Any ideas? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: I stil can't get rid of the sweet toasty burning smell that comes through the heater vents once the ACC engages while the engine is warm, despite having addressed all oily areas by degreasing the engine compartment pretty thoroughly Any ideas? The slightest leak in the heater core will produce a detectable odor, even if it's not enough to notice any loss of coolant or drips. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
How would I go about diagnosing/fixing? Wouldn't coolant level eventually go down? On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: I stil can't get rid of the sweet toasty burning smell that comes through the heater vents once the ACC engages while the engine is warm, despite having addressed all oily areas by degreasing the engine compartment pretty thoroughly Any ideas? The slightest leak in the heater core will produce a detectable odor, even if it's not enough to notice any loss of coolant or drips. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Do you get any sort of a film on the windshield when the defrost is on? That is a sign of leakage as well. You could pressure test the system to see if it holds pressure. Randy On 16/04/2012 2:28 PM, Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com writes: I stil can't get rid of the sweet toasty burning smell that comes through the heater vents once the ACC engages while the engine is warm, despite having addressed all oily areas by degreasing the engine compartment pretty thoroughly Any ideas? The slightest leak in the heater core will produce a detectable odor, even if it's not enough to notice any loss of coolant or drips. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
There is no film on the inside of the w/s. My mechanic said to check the top of the transmission to look for coolant stains, but above all he needs to smell the elusive odor to ID it as antifreeze rather than something more benign.. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Do you get any sort of a film on the windshield when the defrost is on? That is a sign of leakage as well. You could pressure test the system to see if it holds pressure. Randy On 16/04/2012 2:28 PM, Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com writes: I stil can't get rid of the sweet toasty burning smell that comes through the heater vents once the ACC engages while the engine is warm, despite having addressed all oily areas by degreasing the engine compartment pretty thoroughly Any ideas? The slightest leak in the heater core will produce a detectable odor, even if it's not enough to notice any loss of coolant or drips. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Who are the MB guys in the Boston area that do sales and restorations? If it was them I could see it, but for a run of the mill example, that's just flat out nutz. Dan Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT suburban (was annoying drivers)
Speaking of suburbans, has anyone looked at replacing the stock stanadyne model 80 sieve (on an 86 6.2L oil burner) with a FM 100 like is on the 6.5L turbos? It looks like a little wiring harness adaptation (WIF sensor and fuel heater lines), bracket fabrication, and placing a water drain valve. Can anyone confirm/deny this? Thanks. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:12, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: On another aspect, my wife was driving up to Chapel Hill the other day, and out in the middle of nowhere on I95 she had a LF blowout on the Suburban. From her description I thought it might have been a puncture from something on the road, she was not sure but she thought she heard something hit the inner fender, or something indicating an acute failure. Anyway, she called AAA and they put on the spare. The tires were getting to the point they needed to be replaced, so she had that done up there, and they put the blown-out tire in a bag for her to bring home to show me. I took one look at it, and right in the middle of the tread was perfect 1/4 punched hole, with a circle around it about 1.25 diameter, looked like a bolt or something had hit it straight on. She probably heard the bolt hit the fender when it got thrown out. The tire was totally destroyed, the sidewalls ripped open most of the way around, radially, and a good part of the tread belt was separated from both sides. So it just decompressed almost immediately from that puncture and almost totally shredded. It kinda freaked her out, but she managed to get the truck off the road OK and not lose (loose) control or anything. Teaching her to change a tire is a futile effort, and probably safer anyway to have someone come to do it on that road. $800 for a new set of tires installed...damn those things have got expensive. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Yeah the paint was Maaco quality on a bad day. The lower quarter surface rust will progress to rot within a couple of years and as the rust was between the two spot welded layers its progression is inevitable. Honestly I can't imagine how that rust could have ever happened in just 40K miles. Being a reputable firm though I will not doubt the mileage. While the car had only 40K miles I do doubt that it was truly well cared for. Hatch and sons and Copley motors both sell quality low mileage cars but do not do restoration. Paul Russell and Co restores gullwings, pre- war models as well as Ferraris and ultra rare Bugattis such a the Atlantic coupe for Ralph Lauren. Pagodas to him are not worthy enough so you can imagine where a W123 ranks! So to answer your question I don't know who restores our cars around here! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Who are the MB guys in the Boston area that do sales and restorations? If it was them I could see it, but for a run of the mill example, that's just flat out nutz. Dan Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Unfortunately, one need not abuse a car in order to have it rust. A friend looked at a local car that had been in storage for a while. He said the interior was like new and the top of the body looked great. However, it had been sitting in a garage with a dirt floor for many years and I guess it was a damp spot as he said the floor was rotten and the underside of the car was very rusty. Unfortunate but the folks who had it probably thought they were doing well by keeping it indoors. As to the price of the wagon, sometimes people will pay a lot more for something than it is worth. My younger son is a mechanic at a shop that caters to hot rods etc. One fellow has put something in excess of $140K into a mid 60's Malibu. Nice looking car but no one will ever pay him anywhere near that so it must be a passion and not an investment. Randy On 16/04/2012 3:50 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yeah the paint was Maaco quality on a bad day. The lower quarter surface rust will progress to rot within a couple of years and as the rust was between the two spot welded layers its progression is inevitable. Honestly I can't imagine how that rust could have ever happened in just 40K miles. Being a reputable firm though I will not doubt the mileage. While the car had only 40K miles I do doubt that it was truly well cared for. Hatch and sons and Copley motors both sell quality low mileage cars but do not do restoration. Paul Russell and Co restores gullwings, pre- war models as well as Ferraris and ultra rare Bugattis such a the Atlantic coupe for Ralph Lauren. Pagodas to him are not worthy enough so you can imagine where a W123 ranks! So to answer your question I don't know who restores our cars around here! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Who are the MB guys in the Boston area that do sales and restorations? If it was them I could see it, but for a run of the mill example, that's just flat out nutz. Dan Dimitri Seretakisdsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] How do you like the dash overlay?
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/Mercedeswoodendash.jpg This is advertised locally. Car does not look too bad in the photos but wow, what a dash. Would not want to be in an accident. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Unfortunately, one need not abuse a car in order to have it rust. A friend looked at a local car that had been in storage for a while. He said the interior was like new and the top of the body looked great. However, it had been sitting in a garage with a dirt floor for many years and I guess it was a damp spot as he said the floor was rotten and the underside of the car was very rusty. Unfortunate but the folks who had it probably thought they were doing well by keeping it indoors. As to the price of the wagon, sometimes people will pay a lot more for something than it is worth. My younger son is a mechanic at a shop that caters to hot rods etc. One fellow has put something in excess of $140K into a mid 60's Malibu. Nice looking car but no one will ever pay him anywhere near that so it must be a passion and not an investment. Randy On 16/04/2012 3:50 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yeah the paint was Maaco quality on a bad day. The lower quarter surface rust will progress to rot within a couple of years and as the rust was between the two spot welded layers its progression is inevitable. Honestly I can't imagine how that rust could have ever happened in just 40K miles. Being a reputable firm though I will not doubt the mileage. While the car had only 40K miles I do doubt that it was truly well cared for. Hatch and sons and Copley motors both sell quality low mileage cars but do not do restoration. Paul Russell and Co restores gullwings, pre- war models as well as Ferraris and ultra rare Bugattis such a the Atlantic coupe for Ralph Lauren. Pagodas to him are not worthy enough so you can imagine where a W123 ranks! So to answer your question I don't know who restores our cars around here! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Who are the MB guys in the Boston area that do sales and restorations? If it was them I could see it, but for a run of the mill example, that's just flat out nutz. Dan Dimitri Seretakisdsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
When I was typing that, I thought to myself, someone is going to raise the definition of abuse. I guess I cannot argue but sometimes it is difficult to prevent. We leave my mother's car in the garage at the lake in the fall and it stays inside until mid May. Unfortunately, the spring tends to be damp when the snow melts etc. My shop tools in the same garage - table saw and jointer etc - will need to have the rust removed before I start to use them. I have tried different sorts of treatments to the tops but it is just damp in there. I would like to find a way to prevent the dampness but about the only thing I can think of that would work, would be to heat it. I don't think that ventilating would help much. The problem is that the air outside is warmer and moist and the cold concrete floor inside sweats as a result of that. We get some of that in the summer when it is humid. I had the same problem in my garage at home in the city for a few days this spring. It looked like someone had sprayed the floor with a hose. There were literally puddles. Essentially because it was very damp out and the inside of the garage was much colder than the outdoor temperature. All was well until we opened the big door and let the warmer moist air into the garage. If anyone has a solution, I sure would like to hear it. My only thought is that one would need to warm up the concrete floor and that woudl be difficult when there is frost in the ground. If I had the heated floor setup it would be great but I cannot see myself installing that in the garage anytime soon. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How do you like the dash overlay?
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:15:15 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Would not want to be in an accident. I agree. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
Give Fluid Film a try for the table saw deck and jointer. Short of heating the garage I'm not sure how to remove the moisture- well you could run some de- humidifiers! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: When I was typing that, I thought to myself, someone is going to raise the definition of abuse. I guess I cannot argue but sometimes it is difficult to prevent. We leave my mother's car in the garage at the lake in the fall and it stays inside until mid May. Unfortunately, the spring tends to be damp when the snow melts etc. My shop tools in the same garage - table saw and jointer etc - will need to have the rust removed before I start to use them. I have tried different sorts of treatments to the tops but it is just damp in there. I would like to find a way to prevent the dampness but about the only thing I can think of that would work, would be to heat it. I don't think that ventilating would help much. The problem is that the air outside is warmer and moist and the cold concrete floor inside sweats as a result of that. We get some of that in the summer when it is humid. I had the same problem in my garage at home in the city for a few days this spring. It looked like someone had sprayed the floor with a hose. There were literally puddles. Essentially because it was very damp out and the inside of the garage was much colder than the outdoor temperature. All was well until we opened the big door and let the warmer moist air into the garage. If anyone has a solution, I sure would like to hear it. My only thought is that one would need to warm up the concrete floor and that woudl be difficult when there is frost in the ground. If I had the heated floor setup it would be great but I cannot see myself installing that in the garage anytime soon. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
I would say to put a vapor barrier on the floor (just a big sheet of Visqueen) and as for your tools, Cosmoline. Not a lot you can do for the airborne moisture as far as the machined surfaces go without encapsulating them in something, but as for the car I would put a big honking piece of plastic down between it and the floor. It won't eliminate the moisture but it will prevent it from condensing on the bottom of the car. I could write up a long term storage procedure like I did on occasion for industrial engines, but I suspect that's far beyond what you're willing to do for the car Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: When I was typing that, I thought to myself, someone is going to raise the definition of abuse. I guess I cannot argue but sometimes it is difficult to prevent. We leave my mother's car in the garage at the lake in the fall and it stays inside until mid May. Unfortunately, the spring tends to be damp when the snow melts etc. My shop tools in the same garage - table saw and jointer etc - will need to have the rust removed before I start to use them. I have tried different sorts of treatments to the tops but it is just damp in there. I would like to find a way to prevent the dampness but about the only thing I can think of that would work, would be to heat it. I don't think that ventilating would help much. The problem is that the air outside is warmer and moist and the cold concrete floor inside sweats as a result of that. We get some of that in the summer when it is humid. I had the same problem in my garage at home in the city for a few days this spring. It looked like someone had sprayed the floor with a hose. There were literally puddles. Essentially because it was very damp out and the inside of the garage was much colder than the outdoor temperature. All was well until we opened the big door and let the warmer moist air into the garage. If anyone has a solution, I sure would like to hear it. My only thought is that one would need to warm up the concrete floor and that woudl be difficult when there is frost in the ground. If I had the heated floor setup it would be great but I cannot see myself installing that in the garage anytime soon. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
How about a dehumidifier with a hose draining it to the outside? How about spraying the tools with something like Boeshield T-9? Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars When I was typing that, I thought to myself, someone is going to raise the definition of abuse. I guess I cannot argue but sometimes it is difficult to prevent. We leave my mother's car in the garage at the lake in the fall and it stays inside until mid May. Unfortunately, the spring tends to be damp when the snow melts etc. My shop tools in the same garage - table saw and jointer etc - will need to have the rust removed before I start to use them. I have tried different sorts of treatments to the tops but it is just damp in there. I would like to find a way to prevent the dampness but about the only thing I can think of that would work, would be to heat it. I don't think that ventilating would help much. The problem is that the air outside is warmer and moist and the cold concrete floor inside sweats as a result of that. We get some of that in the summer when it is humid. I had the same problem in my garage at home in the city for a few days this spring. It looked like someone had sprayed the floor with a hose. There were literally puddles. Essentially because it was very damp out and the inside of the garage was much colder than the outdoor temperature. All was well until we opened the big door and let the warmer moist air into the garage. If anyone has a solution, I sure would like to hear it. My only thought is that one would need to warm up the concrete floor and that woudl be difficult when there is frost in the ground. If I had the heated floor setup it would be great but I cannot see myself installing that in the garage anytime soon. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Give Fluid Film a try for the table saw deck and jointer. Short of heating the garage I'm not sure how to remove the moisture- well you could run some de- humidifiers! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: When I was typing that, I thought to myself, someone is going to raise the definition of abuse. I guess I cannot argue but sometimes it is difficult to prevent. We leave my mother's car in the garage at the lake in the fall and it stays inside until mid May. Unfortunately, the spring tends to be damp when the snow melts etc. My shop tools in the same garage - table saw and jointer etc - will need to have the rust removed before I start to use them. I have tried different sorts of treatments to the tops but it is just damp in there. I would like to find a way to prevent the dampness but about the only thing I can think of that would work, would be to heat it. I don't think that ventilating would help much. The problem is that the air outside is warmer and moist and the cold concrete floor inside sweats as a result of that. We get some of that in the summer when it is humid. I had the same problem in my garage at home in the city for a few days this spring. It looked like someone had sprayed the floor with a hose. There were literally puddles. Essentially because it was very damp out and the inside of the garage was much colder than the outdoor temperature. All was well until we opened the big door and let the warmer moist air into the garage. If anyone has a solution, I sure would like to hear it. My only thought is that one would need to warm up the concrete floor and that woudl be difficult when there is frost in the ground. If I had the heated floor setup it would be great but I cannot see myself installing that in the garage anytime soon. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com I'll second the de-humidifier idea, will benefit both car and tools but will cost electricity and you'll probably need to plumb a drain, or make frequent visits. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
Electricity cost will not be cheap. You could drill a hole to the outside of the garage and attach a hose to the dehumidifier which can be routed through the hole. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Give Fluid Film a try for the table saw deck and jointer. Short of heating the garage I'm not sure how to remove the moisture- well you could run some de- humidifiers! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: When I was typing that, I thought to myself, someone is going to raise the definition of abuse. I guess I cannot argue but sometimes it is difficult to prevent. We leave my mother's car in the garage at the lake in the fall and it stays inside until mid May. Unfortunately, the spring tends to be damp when the snow melts etc. My shop tools in the same garage - table saw and jointer etc - will need to have the rust removed before I start to use them. I have tried different sorts of treatments to the tops but it is just damp in there. I would like to find a way to prevent the dampness but about the only thing I can think of that would work, would be to heat it. I don't think that ventilating would help much. The problem is that the air outside is warmer and moist and the cold concrete floor inside sweats as a result of that. We get some of that in the summer when it is humid. I had the same problem in my garage at home in the city for a few days this spring. It looked like someone had sprayed the floor with a hose. There were literally puddles. Essentially because it was very damp out and the inside of the garage was much colder than the outdoor temperature. All was well until we opened the big door and let the warmer moist air into the garage. If anyone has a solution, I sure would like to hear it. My only thought is that one would need to warm up the concrete floor and that woudl be difficult when there is frost in the ground. If I had the heated floor setup it would be great but I cannot see myself installing that in the garage anytime soon. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com I'll second the de-humidifier idea, will benefit both car and tools but will cost electricity and you'll probably need to plumb a drain, or make frequent visits. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
I have tried to avoid using oily things as I would have to clean them in the spring before I started cutting wood again. I have used some of the commercial spray cans touted for the purpose but they are not doing the job. Cleaners and conditioners sort of things. They work fine in my basement at home but not in the garage. Maybe even paste wax would be sufficient. If I just wiped on a thick coat in the fall and did not buff it out, that might work. Dehumidifiers don't work well at low temperatures. I wonder about the salt crystal stuff but it is so corrosive that it might cause its own problems. I also do wonder if more ventilation would help. It might make things worse temporarily but if one blew enough of the outside air inside, then things should equalize. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Give Fluid Film a try for the table saw deck and jointer. Short of heating the garage I'm not sure how to remove the moisture- well you could run some de- humidifiers! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: When I was typing that, I thought to myself, someone is going to raise the definition of abuse. I guess I cannot argue but sometimes it is difficult to prevent. We leave my mother's car in the garage at the lake in the fall and it stays inside until mid May. Unfortunately, the spring tends to be damp when the snow melts etc. My shop tools in the same garage - table saw and jointer etc - will need to have the rust removed before I start to use them. I have tried different sorts of treatments to the tops but it is just damp in there. I would like to find a way to prevent the dampness but about the only thing I can think of that would work, would be to heat it. I don't think that ventilating would help much. The problem is that the air outside is warmer and moist and the cold concrete floor inside sweats as a result of that. We get some of that in the summer when it is humid. I had the same problem in my garage at home in the city for a few days this spring. It looked like someone had sprayed the floor with a hose. There were literally puddles. Essentially because it was very damp out and the inside of the garage was much colder than the outdoor temperature. All was well until we opened the big door and let the warmer moist air into the garage. If anyone has a solution, I sure would like to hear it. My only thought is that one would need to warm up the concrete floor and that woudl be difficult when there is frost in the ground. If I had the heated floor setup it would be great but I cannot see myself installing that in the garage anytime soon. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
The poly might be worth a try. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I would say to put a vapor barrier on the floor (just a big sheet of Visqueen) and as for your tools, Cosmoline. Not a lot you can do for the airborne moisture as far as the machined surfaces go without encapsulating them in something, but as for the car I would put a big honking piece of plastic down between it and the floor. It won't eliminate the moisture but it will prevent it from condensing on the bottom of the car. I could write up a long term storage procedure like I did on occasion for industrial engines, but I suspect that's far beyond what you're willing to do for the car Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
What about a commercial fixture; either HPS or MH, there should be a multitap ballast that will eat 120/208/240/277... Then there's no issue feeding it off the condensing unit so long as you have separate fusing and use a PROPER 2 pole switch (IIRC the front part of the body will be green, and it will carry a 277V rating.) Carry both the red and the black to the switch (one on each pole) and then on to the ballast. Not cheap but at least halfway legit -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 15, 2012, at 20:57, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't believe that would be up to code. I believe that a dedicated circuit to the outside condenser unit of an AC system is just three wires. Two conductors to provide the 220v and a ground. If you want to put a sub-panel in place of the AC evaporator disconnect and then run the evaporator and other circuits off of that you will need to add an extra wire, correctly sized, to carry the neutral. In other words you will need two conductors for the 220, a neutral and a ground. Four wires in all. Just went through that with the well and wanting to do an extra outlet out there at the well. Mind, on the old house there is just an outlet off the 220 wire to the pump. I mentioned that to the inspector and he said I'm glad I didn't hear that or I would have to check it and have it changed. Very nice guy, he's helped me a lot in my building. Manfred Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:57:33 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary You can tap off the AC line if you send it to another outdoor breaker/subpanel thence to whatever and have at it. As long as everything has the proper size wire, breakers (rated at same/less than the feed), and enclosures you should be OK. Or buy an outdoor subpanel (rated at whatever your feed to the AC unit is, probably 40A or 50A?) that has like 4 or 6 breaker spaces in it, feed it with your AC line where it comes out of the house (and mount the subpanel near there), then come off that with your AC unit feed and the outdoor circuit(s) (and use GFCI breakers) and maybe a 220V plug there somewhere too (there is actually another box you can buy with the 220V plug and 2-110V 20A plugs in it) should you need to do some welding out there! I have something like that right now on my temporary pole. The box is not that expensive, and breakers are reasonable. I presume there is a breaker at the main panel already to handle the AC unit, that line can feed your subpanel just fine (my heat pump actually has a second breaker box off the main feed to it for the heat strips). I'll take a pic tomorrow of my temp set up and send it to you. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
Or cover your floor with wooden planks ? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: The poly might be worth a try. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I would say to put a vapor barrier on the floor (just a big sheet of Visqueen) and as for your tools, Cosmoline. Not a lot you can do for the airborne moisture as far as the machined surfaces go without encapsulating them in something, but as for the car I would put a big honking piece of plastic down between it and the floor. It won't eliminate the moisture but it will prevent it from condensing on the bottom of the car. I could write up a long term storage procedure like I did on occasion for industrial engines, but I suspect that's far beyond what you're willing to do for the car Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
To follow up on the plastic film idea, I wonder if painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant would help? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
I've an old 220h Coleman 2 mantle that now has a kerosene fuel tube and generator. You probably don't need to replace the fuel tube and you can make the gen by putting the jet and cleaning needle from a 242 gen into a 220 gen body. Add a cup for alcohol and you are good to go. (kero doesn't go bad in storage and everything that I have is either diesel or premix). Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 15, 2012, at 21:04, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It still seems like a pretty minor problem. Get a Coleman lantern, how much white gas or propane could you buy for the price of running lights? -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:32:24 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary Message-ID: f421b522-6f88-4c19-83db-7ad07b2b6...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's an oversimplification. We go out into the back yard for various reasons at night, the most common being to take the dog out. If we wanted to do anything out there, such as entertain after dark, there is no way to see anything due to the lack of light. That's why I am looking for a floodlight or some other means of lighting the area. The dog probably has better night vision than I do Dan On Apr 15, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Am I the only on that thinks this all is ridiculous for taking the dog out? Buy a Mag light, hanging it on a peg by the door, problem solved... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
Plastic film is cheap and easily removed each season. Painting an existing concrete floor and getting it to stick is a major undertaking, and I have yet to do it successfully on two occasions. All I am thinking about is having a vapor barrier between the floor and the car - that should be adequate enough to prevent the bottom of the car having condensation form on it, I would think. Sort of like a vapor barrier in a crawl space Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Max wrote: To follow up on the plastic film idea, I wonder if painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant would help? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:13:26 -0400 Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: To follow up on the plastic film idea, I wonder if painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant would help? Both the plastic film and painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant will help reduce/stop the transmission of sub-grade moisture into the garage. Both the plastic film and painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant will NOT stop airborne moisture from condensing. Insulating the concrete will help reduce/stop condensation. A wood deck could help with this, but it will need to be solid to keep the moisture away from the cold concrete, else the bottom side of the wood deck will be saturated with the condensation and will rot (unless it's treated). And a lot of moisture underneath the wood would likely be wicked up into the garage air. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
I doubt it. I don't think the water comes up through the concrete. I think it condenses on the surface because the concrete is cold and the air is warmer and humid. Randy On 16/04/2012 5:13 PM, Max wrote: To follow up on the plastic film idea, I wonder if painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant would help? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
Well then put a vapor barrier over the concrete and then cover with warm wood. Now you are protected from the top and bottom! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I doubt it. I don't think the water comes up through the concrete. I think it condenses on the surface because the concrete is cold and the air is warmer and humid. Randy On 16/04/2012 5:13 PM, Max wrote: To follow up on the plastic film idea, I wonder if painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant would help? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
It seeps, because concrete cracks and water table rises. If you are below grade, it will seep in the walls and live on the floor. Only way to properly deal with this, is to heat the space and keep a dehumidifier going in the wet months. On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: I doubt it. I don't think the water comes up through the concrete. I think it condenses on the surface because the concrete is cold and the air is warmer and humid. Randy On 16/04/2012 5:13 PM, Max wrote: To follow up on the plastic film idea, I wonder if painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant would help? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
I bought a 87 300TD with a #22 head today for $700. A much better deal. On 4/16/2012 1:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: These cars are fetching some crazy money. Andrew's going to strike it rich if he sells his pair! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Dave Cavnerw123wa...@gmail.com wrote: Makes this one seem like a bit of a bargain: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2929674404.html Dave SoCal '82 240D (3 pedal) '84 300TD (Euro) '85 300TD (Cali) On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Copley motors in MA sold a dark blue 40,000 mile w123 300TD non- turbo wagon for $30,000. The car had a nice clean interior but a surprisingly average to below average repaint along with some dings and surface rust on drivers lower quarter. For that price the car should be in show condition. Guess there's a fool out there for every car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4940 - Release Date: 04/16/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have been thinking of this. I do not have indoor storage for cars, so the ones I am not driving, or the projects to be done maybe I should park them over a tarp? Would that help at all? On 4/16/2012 4:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I would say to put a vapor barrier on the floor (just a big sheet of Visqueen) and as for your tools, Cosmoline. Not a lot you can do for the airborne moisture as far as the machined surfaces go without encapsulating them in something, but as for the car I would put a big honking piece of plastic down between it and the floor. It won't eliminate the moisture but it will prevent it from condensing on the bottom of the car. I could write up a long term storage procedure like I did on occasion for industrial engines, but I suspect that's far beyond what you're willing to do for the car Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: When I was typing that, I thought to myself, someone is going to raise the definition of abuse. I guess I cannot argue but sometimes it is difficult to prevent. We leave my mother's car in the garage at the lake in the fall and it stays inside until mid May. Unfortunately, the spring tends to be damp when the snow melts etc. My shop tools in the same garage - table saw and jointer etc - will need to have the rust removed before I start to use them. I have tried different sorts of treatments to the tops but it is just damp in there. I would like to find a way to prevent the dampness but about the only thing I can think of that would work, would be to heat it. I don't think that ventilating would help much. The problem is that the air outside is warmer and moist and the cold concrete floor inside sweats as a result of that. We get some of that in the summer when it is humid. I had the same problem in my garage at home in the city for a few days this spring. It looked like someone had sprayed the floor with a hose. There were literally puddles. Essentially because it was very damp out and the inside of the garage was much colder than the outdoor temperature. All was well until we opened the big door and let the warmer moist air into the garage. If anyone has a solution, I sure would like to hear it. My only thought is that one would need to warm up the concrete floor and that woudl be difficult when there is frost in the ground. If I had the heated floor setup it would be great but I cannot see myself installing that in the garage anytime soon. Randy On 16/04/2012 4:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: True but improper storage is a kind of abuse as is not washing the salt off your car. It's also abusive to treat your low mileage survivor to a below average paint job! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4940 - Release Date: 04/16/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I doubt it. I don't think the water comes up through the concrete. I think it condenses on the surface because the concrete is cold and the air is warmer and humid. Randy Moisture definitely migrates upward through slabs. The floor covering industry has used this test to quantify the amount for decades: http://www.vaportest.com/Webpages/calcium_chloride_test.htm Current thinking is rigid insulation before the pour is the best method to eliminate the issue. The amount of insulation depends on your climate zone. Current best practices outlined here: http://www.buildingscience.com/documents/insights/bsi-059-slab-happy/ Lots of good info on that site regarding moisture content in dwellings - and how to solve the problem. Overkill for most retrofits. My favorite annecdotal quote is an off-topic post from a wood pellet stove forum: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/75919/P0/ ...Somebody on here was advising under-slab insulation even for an unheated garage, which sounded like a pretty good idea. Reply from a guy in SW Maine I have no heated slabs of the 5 on my property. I have styrofoam under 4-and-a-half of them. Guess where it's dark and damp in muggy or rainy weather. I can stack bags of grain on the slab in my rodent-proof room (insulated but not heated) and they never get mildewed against the floor. Whoever said it, I can agree with conviction based on experience. Dave SoCal ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
No, it's an alpha emitter, I think, (radioactive) and the dust from a broken mantle is breathable, leading to a risk of lung cancer. Peter On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:18 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
Or because we'll get irradiated while using our lanterns. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D shutoff
On Apr 15, 2012 11:49 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 22:11:44 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: I finally replaced the shutoff for the 300D this afternoon. I presume this is a OM617 based 300D. Good catch, yes. Thanks. :) Can disconnected vacuum cause no start, too? No. The line is connected anyway, in fact everything looks plugged up correctly. Never replaced the driver foot well cover and haven't really regretted it... ;) I took the shutoff out again, and it doesn't seem to be stuck - the pull bar is sitting well past what it's pulling, and the stop lever makes it skip a touch if I pull the lever back, so I think that's right. What happens when you suck on the vacuum line to the shutoff? Does the lever on the side of the injection pump move down? That's what should happen before you try to start the engine. I didn't have my mityvac out this morning, but sucking against the tube I was able to feel the click against the lever. I probably have the mityvac in the other car but I didn't want to spend all my time looking for it. Thanks for any tips, If you don't get the shutoff connected properly, I understand the engine can run away and you won't be able to make it stop. Thanks for that, I grabbed some plastic bags just in case. Alas still no start this morning. I am starting to wonder if it is just glow, but the engine doesn't even stumble - I've always been able to make it catch without draining the battery even if I completely neglect glow, but I can't think that anything else would be so sudden. I guess the IP could have given up the ghost, but it seems to take in fuel if I break the line at the filter. Or maybe my battery decided to give it up? Though rotation speed sounds reasonable. Compression, fuel, air, exhaust, right? Figure I'll work on it tomorrow until the rain starts, probably start cracking injector lines... Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 15 PB
Dan, Do you know if this is still available? Thanks, Mike On Mar 20, 2012 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: From one of my Mac lists: PowerBook G4 15 Aluminum. Specifications: PPC G4 1.5 GHZ 80GB Hard Drive 512 MB RAM Combo Drive (CD-RW + DVD) Wireless Apple Airport Extreme WiFi Card Installed Bluetooth EDR+2.0 installed Operating System Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 (supports up to Leopard (10.5) 65 W Power Adapter $150 shipped. What a deal for someone who is into PPC Macs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll get you in touch with the owner. I might add that it ships in the original box and packing materials, too. That's the mark of a serious fanbois. MacDann ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
I made one last summer, its okay but I need to do like yours and swap out the fuel/air tube for a straight shot fuel pickup. Mine pulses like a disco light. I think the increased viscosity of kero is to blame. The H and later 220s are supposedly better for the kero conversion because the flying saucer mixing chamber has more space and thus the lanterns make less smell. I dunno if thats true or not, I did my conversion on an F, I've got a J I should try... Up until recently I could buy easily rebuildable lanterns for $5 each all day long. Theres more collectors now so I might have to go as high as $10. Usually I can get one going without parts, worst case its an $8 generator. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary Message-ID: f621b827-f2bb-4149-87f0-334135624...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I've an old 220h Coleman 2 mantle that now has a kerosene fuel tube and generator. You probably don't need to replace the fuel tube and you can make the gen by putting the jet and cleaning needle from a 242 gen into a 220 gen body. Add a cup for alcohol and you are good to go. (kero doesn't go bad in storage and everything that I have is either diesel or premix). Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 15, 2012, at 21:04, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It still seems like a pretty minor problem. Get a Coleman lantern, how much white gas or propane could you buy for the price of running lights? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
BTW get Peerless mantles from Oldcolemanparts.com, you'll want 2C-HG for your 220. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPRditi7AQk -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary Message-ID: f621b827-f2bb-4149-87f0-334135624...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I've an old 220h Coleman 2 mantle that now has a kerosene fuel tube and generator. You probably don't need to replace the fuel tube and you can make the gen by putting the jet and cleaning needle from a 242 gen into a 220 gen body. Add a cup for alcohol and you are good to go. (kero doesn't go bad in storage and everything that I have is either diesel or premix). Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
If there was no vapor barrier laid beneath the concrete before it was poured, you can expect a LOT of moisture to rise through it because of the differences in vapor pressure - temperature and humidity - in effect, a big natural pump sucking water vapor through the concrete. Without a vapor barrier beneath the concrete, it is very hard to SEAL the top surface of the concrete with a paint or epoxy - vapor still comes up through the concrete and collects in pockets/bubbles between the top surface of the concrete and the paint/epoxy, which then spalls off. Moisture in the warm air from outside does, indeed, condense on the cold concrete, but a LOT of moisture comes up through the concrete, too, and then, of course, also condenses on the surface in addition to increasing relative humidity in the building. Improve ventilation in the building could help. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars I doubt it. I don't think the water comes up through the concrete. I think it condenses on the surface because the concrete is cold and the air is warmer and humid. Randy On 16/04/2012 5:13 PM, Max wrote: To follow up on the plastic film idea, I wonder if painting the concrete with an epoxy sealant would help? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 15 PB
Don't think so but I'll check. Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Dan, Do you know if this is still available? Thanks, Mike On Mar 20, 2012 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: From one of my Mac lists: PowerBook G4 15 Aluminum. Specifications: PPC G4 1.5 GHZ 80GB Hard Drive 512 MB RAM Combo Drive (CD-RW + DVD) Wireless Apple Airport Extreme WiFi Card Installed Bluetooth EDR+2.0 installed Operating System Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 (supports up to Leopard (10.5) 65 W Power Adapter $150 shipped. What a deal for someone who is into PPC Macs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll get you in touch with the owner. I might add that it ships in the original box and packing materials, too. That's the mark of a serious fanbois. MacDann ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
Funny the guy doing the video is named Curt. So you're into lanterns. Does that mean you're into beer 'n campfires as well? Cuz I am! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: BTW get Peerless mantles from Oldcolemanparts.com, you'll want 2C-HG for your 220. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPRditi7AQk -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary Message-ID: f621b827-f2bb-4149-87f0-334135624...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I've an old 220h Coleman 2 mantle that now has a kerosene fuel tube and generator. You probably don't need to replace the fuel tube and you can make the gen by putting the jet and cleaning needle from a 242 gen into a 220 gen body. Add a cup for alcohol and you are good to go. (kero doesn't go bad in storage and everything that I have is either diesel or premix). Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars
Randy wrote: I doubt it. I don't think the water comes up through the concrete. I think it condenses on the surface because the concrete is cold and the air is warmer and humid. My son stored his motorcycle inside the outbuilding next door over the winter. He put it in a bike bag that was waterproof and contained a cache of dessicant. That arrangement kept everything nice and dry. Perhaps the company that makes that makes these for cars? Or equipment? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
Doubt it, more likely because the sheeple are worried about the atom. The amount of thorium on any one mantle is pretty minimal but I bet the regulation of the stuff is pretty aggravating. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:18:10 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels Message-ID: 20120416171810.edb76137.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantles
Except that alpha particles can't penetrate your skin... The risk is really from breathing the stuff where it can get into your lungs and soft tissues. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:30:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels Message-ID: 1334619019.26189.yext-apple-iph...@web113209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Or because we'll get irradiated while using our lanterns. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
The problem with these portable solutions is that Curt was also looking for something he could turn on for entertainment in the back yard. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Funny the guy doing the video is named Curt. So you're into lanterns. Does that mean you're into beer 'n campfires as well? Cuz I am! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: BTW get Peerless mantles from Oldcolemanparts.com, you'll want 2C-HG for your 220. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPRditi7AQk -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary Message-ID: f621b827-f2bb-4149-87f0-334135624...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I've an old 220h Coleman 2 mantle that now has a kerosene fuel tube and generator. You probably don't need to replace the fuel tube and you can make the gen by putting the jet and cleaning needle from a 242 gen into a 220 gen body. Add a cup for alcohol and you are good to go. (kero doesn't go bad in storage and everything that I have is either diesel or premix). Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
Guess I better ditch the glow in the dark watch face Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Doubt it, more likely because the sheeple are worried about the atom. The amount of thorium on any one mantle is pretty minimal but I bet the regulation of the stuff is pretty aggravating. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:18:10 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels Message-ID: 20120416171810.edb76137.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
I remember learning that way back the factory workers who painted the glow in the dark watch and clock faces would lick the brushes to give them a sharp point. Many apparently died of cancer, probably some form of head and neck or esophageal ca. But yes if thorium emits just alpha particles then there is little risk unless we're sniffing or licking the mantles. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I better ditch the glow in the dark watch face Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Doubt it, more likely because the sheeple are worried about the atom. The amount of thorium on any one mantle is pretty minimal but I bet the regulation of the stuff is pretty aggravating. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:18:10 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels Message-ID: 20120416171810.edb76137.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire changing
...Teaching her to change a tire is a futile effort, and probably safer anyway to have someone come to do it on that road... And what is the weight of the tire/wheel? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
Google radium girls. Mike On Apr 16, 2012 8:50 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I remember learning that way back the factory workers who painted the glow in the dark watch and clock faces would lick the brushes to give them a sharp point. Many apparently died of cancer, probably some form of head and neck or esophageal ca. But yes if thorium emits just alpha particles then there is little risk unless we're sniffing or licking the mantles. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I better ditch the glow in the dark watch face Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Doubt it, more likely because the sheeple are worried about the atom. The amount of thorium on any one mantle is pretty minimal but I bet the regulation of the stuff is pretty aggravating. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:18:10 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels Message-ID: 20120416171810.edb76137.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - annoying drivers
Self-centered, me! me! Me! egomaniac self-righteous Rolling roadblock, aggressive driving. Take your pick. The illness has spread from Kollyfonya to the rest of the country. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap fan clutch rebuild
That's the same fan I used on the 215 Olds engine in the MGA -- On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Interesting commentary on fan clutches. RPM-sensitive reminds me about the old fiberglass-bladed clutch a friend put on a Ford 302 in a Sunbeam Tiger. The blades were flexible enough that at high RPM they flattened out and moved less air. Craig -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 15 PB
That one is gone, but this just came up this morning: I have an overall good - great condition 15 PowerBook G4 that has the 1.67Ghz processor and 1GB of RAM - has a 300GB HDD, AirPort, BlueTooth, and a SuperDrive. Runs GREAT except for when it randomly falls asleep (the narcolepsy issue, rarely happens overall tho) Asking $200 shipped for it, open to offers and trades (Apple mice and keyboards, etc.) This is actually a better machine - it's the last production model and has the faster processor. I would not fret about the narcolepsy issue, as it's more of a nuisance when/if it occurs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll put you in touch with the seller. Here are some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/6414245...7629831003771/ The same seller also has this: For sale is an excellent condition PowerMac G5 - it has dual 2.0 processors and is the earlier, non-problematic model that doesn't just die randomly. It can take up to 8GB of RAM and has a 150GB HDD. It has AirPort Extreme installed - the legitimate Apple card, no antenna, but I get nearly FULL signal strength without the antenna with my wireless router being like 6-8 feet away, so I mean if you have a set that it would work like that, you shouldn't even need to purchase one anyways. Video card is 9600 Pro 64MB - has combo drive - NOT super drive as far as I can tell. I'm asking $200 shipped I was seriously considering it, but the disposable income fund is a little low this month. Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Dan, Do you know if this is still available? Thanks, Mike On Mar 20, 2012 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: From one of my Mac lists: PowerBook G4 15 Aluminum. Specifications: PPC G4 1.5 GHZ 80GB Hard Drive 512 MB RAM Combo Drive (CD-RW + DVD) Wireless Apple Airport Extreme WiFi Card Installed Bluetooth EDR+2.0 installed Operating System Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 (supports up to Leopard (10.5) 65 W Power Adapter $150 shipped. What a deal for someone who is into PPC Macs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll get you in touch with the owner. I might add that it ships in the original box and packing materials, too. That's the mark of a serious fanbois. MacDann ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
DId/could you drive it home? On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I bought a 87 300TD with a #22 head today for $700. A much better deal. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 15 PB
What is the narcolepsy issue? One of my Mac Book falls asleep when occasionally, but that usually takes an active phone call with my cell phone on the laptop. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: That one is gone, but this just came up this morning: I have an overall good - great condition 15 PowerBook G4 that has the 1.67Ghz processor and 1GB of RAM - has a 300GB HDD, AirPort, BlueTooth, and a SuperDrive. Runs GREAT except for when it randomly falls asleep (the narcolepsy issue, rarely happens overall tho) Asking $200 shipped for it, open to offers and trades (Apple mice and keyboards, etc.) This is actually a better machine - it's the last production model and has the faster processor. I would not fret about the narcolepsy issue, as it's more of a nuisance when/if it occurs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll put you in touch with the seller. Here are some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/6414245...7629831003771/ The same seller also has this: For sale is an excellent condition PowerMac G5 - it has dual 2.0 processors and is the earlier, non-problematic model that doesn't just die randomly. It can take up to 8GB of RAM and has a 150GB HDD. It has AirPort Extreme installed - the legitimate Apple card, no antenna, but I get nearly FULL signal strength without the antenna with my wireless router being like 6-8 feet away, so I mean if you have a set that it would work like that, you shouldn't even need to purchase one anyways. Video card is 9600 Pro 64MB - has combo drive - NOT super drive as far as I can tell. I'm asking $200 shipped I was seriously considering it, but the disposable income fund is a little low this month. Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Dan, Do you know if this is still available? Thanks, Mike On Mar 20, 2012 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: From one of my Mac lists: PowerBook G4 15 Aluminum. Specifications: PPC G4 1.5 GHZ 80GB Hard Drive 512 MB RAM Combo Drive (CD-RW + DVD) Wireless Apple Airport Extreme WiFi Card Installed Bluetooth EDR+2.0 installed Operating System Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 (supports up to Leopard (10.5) 65 W Power Adapter $150 shipped. What a deal for someone who is into PPC Macs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll get you in touch with the owner. I might add that it ships in the original box and packing materials, too. That's the mark of a serious fanbois. MacDann ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 15 PB
Random sleep on the later PPC PowerBooks. Rarely happens, but when it does, a touch of a key or touchpad brings it back. Dan Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: What is the narcolepsy issue? One of my Mac Book falls asleep when occasionally, but that usually takes an active phone call with my cell phone on the laptop. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: That one is gone, but this just came up this morning: I have an overall good - great condition 15 PowerBook G4 that has the 1.67Ghz processor and 1GB of RAM - has a 300GB HDD, AirPort, BlueTooth, and a SuperDrive. Runs GREAT except for when it randomly falls asleep (the narcolepsy issue, rarely happens overall tho) Asking $200 shipped for it, open to offers and trades (Apple mice and keyboards, etc.) This is actually a better machine - it's the last production model and has the faster processor. I would not fret about the narcolepsy issue, as it's more of a nuisance when/if it occurs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll put you in touch with the seller. Here are some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/6414245...7629831003771/ The same seller also has this: For sale is an excellent condition PowerMac G5 - it has dual 2.0 processors and is the earlier, non-problematic model that doesn't just die randomly. It can take up to 8GB of RAM and has a 150GB HDD. It has AirPort Extreme installed - the legitimate Apple card, no antenna, but I get nearly FULL signal strength without the antenna with my wireless router being like 6-8 feet away, so I mean if you have a set that it would work like that, you shouldn't even need to purchase one anyways. Video card is 9600 Pro 64MB - has combo drive - NOT super drive as far as I can tell. I'm asking $200 shipped I was seriously considering it, but the disposable income fund is a little low this month. Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Dan, Do you know if this is still available? Thanks, Mike On Mar 20, 2012 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: From one of my Mac lists: PowerBook G4 15 Aluminum. Specifications: PPC G4 1.5 GHZ 80GB Hard Drive 512 MB RAM Combo Drive (CD-RW + DVD) Wireless Apple Airport Extreme WiFi Card Installed Bluetooth EDR+2.0 installed Operating System Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 (supports up to Leopard (10.5) 65 W Power Adapter $150 shipped. What a deal for someone who is into PPC Macs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll get you in touch with the owner. I might add that it ships in the original box and packing materials, too. That's the mark of a serious fanbois. MacDann ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
Come to ChowdaQ and you'll see I'm also into stoves... -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:14:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary Message-ID: 1334621642.43074.yext-apple-iph...@web113207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Funny the guy doing the video is named Curt. So you're into lanterns. Does that mean you're into beer 'n campfires as well? Cuz I am! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: BTW get Peerless mantles from Oldcolemanparts.com, you'll want 2C-HG for your 220. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPRditi7AQk -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
I could drive it to Maine if I wanted to Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 9:05 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: DId/could you drive it home? On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I bought a 87 300TD with a #22 head today for $700. A much better deal. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Excellent bargain then ! On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I could drive it to Maine if I wanted to Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 9:05 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: DId/could you drive it home? On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I bought a 87 300TD with a #22 head today for $700. A much better deal. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D shutoff
When the ign is off, the stop lever on the IP should be down. When the key is ON the stop lever should be UP. If this does not happen, take the shutoff off and reseat. Alternately, take the rack cover off the side of the IP and be sure it slides as the stop lever is moved to up and down positions. Watch the rack as you crank. I had a spring or something crack and break inside the governor on one pump. The rack would slam to the off position as soon as the engine started to crank. NO starty. Lots of fruitless cranking. On Apr 15, 2012 11:49 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 22:11:44 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: I finally replaced the shutoff for the 300D this afternoon. I presume this is a OM617 based 300D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
I'm planning on coming. Missed it last yr because I had to help the gf in DC with some gay art fair thing. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Come to ChowdaQ and you'll see I'm also into stoves... -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:14:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary Message-ID: 1334621642.43074.yext-apple-iph...@web113207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Funny the guy doing the video is named Curt. So you're into lanterns. Does that mean you're into beer 'n campfires as well? Cuz I am! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: BTW get Peerless mantles from Oldcolemanparts.com, you'll want 2C-HG for your 220. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPRditi7AQk -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Nice score and a helluva bettah deal. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I could drive it to Maine if I wanted to Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 9:05 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: DId/could you drive it home? On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I bought a 87 300TD with a #22 head today for $700. A much better deal. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 30K for low mileage 300TD!!
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I could drive it to Maine if I wanted to Now you're just teasing Regina. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
DO NOT just ditch a radium dial watch, if you have one, there is enough radium in there to cause trouble. Unless it's a military watch, though, it's not radium unless it was made before about 1960, when radium stopped being used for that purpose. It was replaced by tritium (probably dead by now, half life of six years or so), and the modern luminescent materials are zinc sulfide doped with rare earth metals. They only glow for a bout 12 hours, but that's long enough for a watch dial, and aren't radioactive. The worst part of the radium dials is not the radium, since it's an alpha emitter and you have to eat it to make it dangerous, but it decays into radon along with some other stuff, and the radon rapidly decays into much nastier metals. That means, umpleasantly, that the watch is grossly contaminated with not only radium containing dust, but also widely distributed radioactive metal oxides. This is a problem for watchmakers -- not that I know of any who died from radiation induced problems, but it's typical of the business to collect things like spare hands and dials, and putting them all in one place can generate enough radiation flux to exceed the recommended daily dose of beta and gamma from the decay products. That's why I have a couple 1920's or 30's wrist watches that I've not repaired yet, have to get them decomtaminated first. Don't wear a radium dial watch to bed either -- if you sleep with your hand under your head, you can exceed the daily recommended radiation dose to your brain. Peter On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Guess I better ditch the glow in the dark watch face Dan On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Doubt it, more likely because the sheeple are worried about the atom. The amount of thorium on any one mantle is pretty minimal but I bet the regulation of the stuff is pretty aggravating. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:18:10 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels Message-ID: 20120416171810.edb76137.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:14:23 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Now to figure out who makes thoriated mantles; the new manufacture Coleman ones (that are no longer thoriated) put out at most 2/3 of the light (and more likely 1/2...) Did they stop using thorium because it can be used in a dirty bomb and they might be liable if it's stolen from them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
Damn. That explains it. --R On 4/16/12 11:14 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Don't wear a radium dial watch to bed either -- if you sleep with your hand under your head, you can exceed the daily recommended radiation dose to your brain. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
Yeah, I figure that's what's wrong with me, too. Peter On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Damn. That explains it. --R On 4/16/12 11:14 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Don't wear a radium dial watch to bed either -- if you sleep with your hand under your head, you can exceed the daily recommended radiation dose to your brain. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
I am trying to wrap my head around the fact your girlfriend is gay. I can't quite figure the deal out. The possibilities boggle... --R On 4/16/12 11:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'm planning on coming. Missed it last yr because I had to help the gf in DC with some gay art fair thing. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
Haha. She's not gay! It was a gay-ass art fair thing! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am trying to wrap my head around the fact your girlfriend is gay. I can't quite figure the deal out. The possibilities boggle... --R On 4/16/12 11:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'm planning on coming. Missed it last yr because I had to help the gf in DC with some gay art fair thing. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
So it was all pictures of the posterior sections of happy people? Walt On Apr 16, 2012 11:30 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Haha. She's not gay! It was a gay-ass art fair thing! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am trying to wrap my head around the fact your girlfriend is gay. I can't quite figure the deal out. The possibilities boggle... --R On 4/16/12 11:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'm planning on coming. Missed it last yr because I had to help the gf in DC with some gay art fair thing. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT fedora server
picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora. Anybody familiar with this OS for a server? I am wondering if it has something like AD group policies similar to M$ Server 2000/2003/2008. If so, I can learn to use it. Otherwise I can put 2003R2 on it. Its intended use will be data storage for a small business with 4 or 5 computers (XP) and same number of users. Fortunately none of the computers I have looked at so far are Wissta. I would like to use the GPOs to redirect the users' My Documents to the server, among other things. (such as severely restricting what users can do.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Re: abuse of cars 2ejuremy
Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:31:19 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Get some of that foam board at Lowes/HD, it is cheap, and has foil/plastic facing. 4x8 sheets, a few of those to cover your floor -- moisture barrier, insulation, and sorta soft. --R On 4/16/12 7:04 PM, Dave Cavner wrote: On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I doubt it. I don't think the water comes up through the concrete. I think it condenses on the surface because the concrete is cold and the air is warmer and humid. Randy Moisture definitely migrates upward through slabs. The floor covering industry has used this test to quantify the amount for decades: http://www.vaportest.com/Webpages/calcium_chloride_test.htm Current thinking is rigid insulation before the pour is the best method to eliminate the issue. The amount of insulation depends on your climate zone. Current best practices outlined here: http://www.buildingscience.com/documents/insights/bsi-059-slab-happy/ Lots of good info on that site regarding moisture content in dwellings - and how to solve the problem. Overkill for most retrofits. My favorite annecdotal quote is an off-topic post from a wood pellet stove forum: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/75919/P0/ ...Somebody on here was advising under-slab insulation even for an unheated garage, which sounded like a pretty good idea. Reply from a guy in SW Maine I have no heated slabs of the 5 on my property. I have styrofoam under 4-and-a-half of them. Guess where it's dark and damp in muggy or rainy weather. I can stack bags of grain on the slab in my rodent-proof room (insulated but not heated) and they never get mildewed against the floor. Whoever said it, I can agree with conviction based on experience. Dave SoCal ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server
SAMBA should do most of that, iirc it did AD stuff. Sorry I can't be much more help, I just tolerate windows now, much prefer the penguin. Walt On Apr 16, 2012 11:32 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora. Anybody familiar with this OS for a server? I am wondering if it has something like AD group policies similar to M$ Server 2000/2003/2008. If so, I can learn to use it. Otherwise I can put 2003R2 on it. Its intended use will be data storage for a small business with 4 or 5 computers (XP) and same number of users. Fortunately none of the computers I have looked at so far are Wissta. I would like to use the GPOs to redirect the users' My Documents to the server, among other things. (such as severely restricting what users can do.) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
You guys r killin me. OK, it was a lovely art fair where I had to sit behind a table under a tent in the sweltering heat to help her sell her pottery and handmade jewelry. No gays, no posteriors, no rainbow flags. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: So it was all pictures of the posterior sections of happy people? Walt On Apr 16, 2012 11:30 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Haha. She's not gay! It was a gay-ass art fair thing! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am trying to wrap my head around the fact your girlfriend is gay. I can't quite figure the deal out. The possibilities boggle... --R On 4/16/12 11:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'm planning on coming. Missed it last yr because I had to help the gf in DC with some gay art fair thing. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How do you like the dash overlay?
A second frontal lobotomy should cure all residual illness of the inventor. I can see the first one has had full effect. On occasion you see something and think What were they thinking. then the answer comes They weren't On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:15:15 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Would not want to be in an accident. I agree. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: abuse of cars 2ejuremy
And incredibly flammable. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:33 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] abuse of cars Date:Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:31:19 -0400 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Get some of that foam board at Lowes/HD, it is cheap, and has foil/plastic facing. 4x8 sheets, a few of those to cover your floor -- moisture barrier, insulation, and sorta soft. --R On 4/16/12 7:04 PM, Dave Cavner wrote: On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I doubt it. I don't think the water comes up through the concrete. I think it condenses on the surface because the concrete is cold and the air is warmer and humid. Randy Moisture definitely migrates upward through slabs. The floor covering industry has used this test to quantify the amount for decades: http://www.vaportest.com/Webpages/calcium_chloride_test.htm Current thinking is rigid insulation before the pour is the best method to eliminate the issue. The amount of insulation depends on your climate zone. Current best practices outlined here: http://www.buildingscience.com/documents/insights/bsi-059-slab-happy/ Lots of good info on that site regarding moisture content in dwellings - and how to solve the problem. Overkill for most retrofits. My favorite annecdotal quote is an off-topic post from a wood pellet stove forum: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/75919/P0/ ...Somebody on here was advising under-slab insulation even for an unheated garage, which sounded like a pretty good idea. Reply from a guy in SW Maine I have no heated slabs of the 5 on my property. I have styrofoam under 4-and-a-half of them. Guess where it's dark and damp in muggy or rainy weather. I can stack bags of grain on the slab in my rodent-proof room (insulated but not heated) and they never get mildewed against the floor. Whoever said it, I can agree with conviction based on experience. Dave SoCal ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary
Must have been a (shifting to CL language) fairy gud tim I am trying to wrap my head around the fact your girlfriend is gay. I can't quite figure the deal out. The possibilities boggle... --R On 4/16/12 11:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'm planning on coming. Missed it last yr because I had to help the gf in DC with some gay art fair thing. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman lantern mantels
Finally,,, the rest of the story behind the invention of Daylight Savings By saving daylight we no longer have to sleep with our Radium watches under our head as many hours thus live below the threshold of radiation poisoning those government guys are soo smart. On a more serious note, I have several hundred WW2 era aircraft gages [of all types] all of which have the old style face with glow in the dark now illegal to make marking paint. It is now impossible to get them rebuilt by any instrument shop because of the EPA regs and such It was suggested that I place them in government hazmat approved 55 gallon barrels [cost $500 each] and ship them to a government hazmat approved disposal site [hazmat shipping cost per barrel $800] Plus, hazmat disposal fees upon arrival,, yet to be determined [I'm betting it's based on a per item charge, not a whole barrel] Bottom line I'll get back to you [next lifetime maybe]. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Yeah, I figure that's what's wrong with me, too. Peter On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Damn. That explains it. --R On 4/16/12 11:14 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Don't wear a radium dial watch to bed either -- if you sleep with your hand under your head, you can exceed the daily recommended radiation dose to your brain. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 15 PB
You do understand the G4s are no longer supported by Apple, no new software will work on them, nor can you get the latest OS or even updates to the one it has Otherwise they are nice laptops. Allan Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: Dan, Do you know if this is still available? Thanks, Mike On Mar 20, 2012 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: From one of my Mac lists: PowerBook G4 15 Aluminum. Specifications: PPC G4 1.5 GHZ 80GB Hard Drive 512 MB RAM Combo Drive (CD-RW + DVD) Wireless Apple Airport Extreme WiFi Card Installed Bluetooth EDR+2.0 installed Operating System Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 (supports up to Leopard (10.5) 65 W Power Adapter $150 shipped. What a deal for someone who is into PPC Macs. Let me know if you're interested and I'll get you in touch with the owner. I might add that it ships in the original box and packing materials, too. That's the mark of a serious fanbois. MacDann ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How do you like the dash overlay?
G Mann wrote: A second frontal lobotomy should cure all residual illness of the inventor. I can see the first one has had full effect. On occasion you see something and think What were they thinking. then the answer comes They weren't They were thinking a fireplace would be overkill, but they really did want a mantle. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
