[MBZ] seat motor fix
The passenger seat is out of the 95 e300D. I removed it because the thing would not slide on the rails front and back. Both rear and forward seat elevation motors are able to lift the seat. It also pivot the seat back in both directions. When I use the door controls, all motors fire up or make noise if they are not actually moving the seat. Right now the thing is upside down in the garage. I popped the wire connection cover off so that I could power up each pair of wires and see what they do. Black and white are lift at the front. Yellow and green lift the rear, purple and ? make noise but no motion. I think this is the problematic set. Has anybody done the repair to once more activate motion along the rails to get the dang thing to move toward and away from the dash? All assistance is welcome clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] seat motor fix
The seat is controlled by a cable (like an old-time speedo cable) with an outer sleeve and an inner flex cable. Probably, the end fittings have worked their way off the sleeve to the point one of the ends of the flex cable isn't engaging the socket. Assuming the flex cable isn't broken, you can probably push one (or both) fittings back onto the cable sleeve and stake it in place with a nail point. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] seat motor fix The passenger seat is out of the 95 e300D. I removed it because the thing would not slide on the rails front and back. Both rear and forward seat elevation motors are able to lift the seat. It also pivot the seat back in both directions. When I use the door controls, all motors fire up or make noise if they are not actually moving the seat. Right now the thing is upside down in the garage. I popped the wire connection cover off so that I could power up each pair of wires and see what they do. Black and white are lift at the front. Yellow and green lift the rear, purple and ? make noise but no motion. I think this is the problematic set. Has anybody done the repair to once more activate motion along the rails to get the dang thing to move toward and away from the dash? All assistance is welcome clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
So what is the deal with the universal coolant? I have some G05 and will use it when I replace the Mamabenz's water pump, but that universal stuff is everywhere, and seems like it would be a reasonable choice, but then I have nothing to base that on other than it is universal. --R On 7/11/12 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. Mine's not! It's G05, with dye in it. (I was chasing a leak.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel purge leftover
Anyone tried it themselves with the setup offered by Mercedesource? Converted hydraulic jack and a case of various shims? If one did, what would the best means of cleaning them be? Ultrasonic setup of some sort? Or just soak in purge etc? Randy On 10/07/2012 8:04 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd probably go ahead and have the injectors redone (cleaned and adjusted). Call around there must be somewhere in the metropolis that can do it. http://www.jgparks.com/ Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
On 10/07/2012 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've had a few MB's with green coolant that did NOT overheat. One mechanic I talked to said he would put any color coolant I wanted in the engine. ;^) While I certainly do think its a bad idea to mix coolants, and MB coolant is certainly preferable, I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. Probably not so much of an issue of the color as it is of how long one leaves it in the engine. I think the idea is that it should be replace every couple of years but people do not do it. Did the proper coolant even exist in 1976 when my 300D was new? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Old Sunroof Q
My 76 300D sunroof is sticking a bit. Slides open fine but if I open it more than about half way, I have to give it a little bit of a pull to get it moving back towards the closed position when I hit the switch. Once moving, it seems fine. Anyone got ideas on the subject. Just needs cleaning and lube??? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] seat motor fix
I wasn't going to reply to this, as I did not know what method the later card use for seat positioning. Now that I know it's a cable system, I will offer some advice: As previously stated, the cable ends can wear, allowing the drive cables to fail to engage with the drive sockets. You can verify this by moving the cable jackets around to take the slack out of them, effectively pushing the cable ends deeper into the drive sockets. If they engage and the seat works at this point, tie wrap the cable to the seat frame to keep it tight. This will work for several more years, possibly more depending on the duty cycle. The alternative is to replace the cable. I saw this on 126 seats several times, and tying the cable up to take the slack out did the trick. Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The seat is controlled by a cable (like an old-time speedo cable) with an outer sleeve and an inner flex cable. Probably, the end fittings have worked their way off the sleeve to the point one of the ends of the flex cable isn't engaging the socket. Assuming the flex cable isn't broken, you can probably push one (or both) fittings back onto the cable sleeve and stake it in place with a nail point. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] seat motor fix The passenger seat is out of the 95 e300D. I removed it because the thing would not slide on the rails front and back. Both rear and forward seat elevation motors are able to lift the seat. It also pivot the seat back in both directions. When I use the door controls, all motors fire up or make noise if they are not actually moving the seat. Right now the thing is upside down in the garage. I popped the wire connection cover off so that I could power up each pair of wires and see what they do. Black and white are lift at the front. Yellow and green lift the rear, purple and ? make noise but no motion. I think this is the problematic set. Has anybody done the repair to once more activate motion along the rails to get the dang thing to move toward and away from the dash? All assistance is welcome clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Actually I think even Marshall said that the green coolant was OK if you changed it twice a year. Allan On Tue, Jul 10, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. August Marshall Booth is rolling over about now... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML sizes
I think you got that backwards. The CDI was 3.2 as I believe the bluetec was (same thing as CDI?) The gassers were 3.5 On 7/9/2012 9:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...It would be 3.2 right?... No. The ML Bluetec is a 3.0 and the new 265hp diesel is 3.5. The 3-valve gassers were 3.2. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Poli-ticks
Poli...many. Ticks..blood sucking parasites.
Mike
On Jul 10, 2012 11:10 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
All well made points, for which I thank you.
Just a few further thoughts, stimulated by yours.
1. If you are not popular, you won't get RE-elected.
[My position is, being re-elected should NEVER be a consideration, and the
individual should serve his country then return to regular business.]
2. Responsibility is the venue of leadership. Blame is the venue of
weakness, both by the person making blame, and the person taking blame. We
as a country have sunk into the blame game with a severe lack of
responsibility for actions. ie. I'm the leader, I take responsibility for
my actions and will hold all those under me responsible for theirs. As a
society, we have lost the meaning of being responsible and become
proficient at pushing blame ie. ''my mother didn't love me so I became
a serial murderer, it's not my fault .
{Again RE-election should never be a consideration... why, if we are an
intelligent society, would we re-elect a person who never takes
responsibility for his own decisions and actions but instead passes the
buck to others through blame?]
3. Once properly elected, the position then held properly resides the
sufficient power to execute the duties of that office. As a society,
currently, we have come to believe the only way to rule is through
compromise. I respectfully submit, this is why we are in the mess we are
currently in. Through successive compromise we have eroded the very
principles which made us the most desired country to live in the world.
I believe is was Dr. Porsche who said Committees discuss problems,
Individuals made decisions.We elect Individuals to office to lead and
be responsible for that leadership. Anything less is well.. less than
we paid for.
It is my observation the true problems we are having are not that we have
weak leaders who only focus on their need for RE-election, but that we have
become weak people who vote for those weak leaders and accept their poor
blame game reasoning and lack of responsible action. As Citizens, we have
a developed fault in our critical logic path that says we must re-elect
the professional politician. I believe this is a deadly error which has
been repeated through history.
Civilization is only one generation deep. If we fail to pass it to our
children, they must start from anarchy and regain it once again in a few
centuries [Quote: My Grandmother]
Respectfully,
Grant
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
BUT:
1. If you are not popular, you won't get elected.
2. If you take the blame, you won't get re-elected.
3. If you get elected, you have to keep enough people happy to get some
work done.
Etc.
There is a difference between theory and reality and often it is
unfortunately one of the reasons why good leaders do not want to run for
office.
Randy
On 09/07/2012 2:55 PM, G Mann wrote:
Thank you,
I have some views on this issue.
1. Leadership is not a popularity contest.
2. A leader does not take or give blame, he takes responsibility and
holds
others responsible for their actions.
3. A leaders duty is not to make everyone happy but to support and
defend
the Constitution and the USA from all enemies, foreign and domestic,
pursuant to his oath of office. Not to skirt that Constitution with
crafty
Executive Orders that function only under the color of law.
4, A leaders duty is to make decisions for the Country that continue the
principles and ideals upon which it was founded, and have made it the
richest most successful Country in the recorded history of the world.
5. A leaders duty is to provide good stewardship of the physical,
financial, and ideological resources of the Country, not just within his
term of office but for far into the future. Further, to pass that mantel
of
responsibility on to the next leader in such a form that it will be
continued, thus preserving and enhancing the richness of the Citizens.
I have seen, in my lifetime, these guiding principles be outright
ignored
and pushed aside. We no longer elect the best man for the job...
only
the least worse of those running... at best.
It is my considered opinion we will continue of this downward spiral
until
We the People [who actually own this country] set firm term limits and
place on every ballot the voting space labeled NONE OF THE ABOVE... if
None of the Above wins.. those who ran should then be excluded from
ever
running again for office. The Government will not immediately collapse
while we hold a fresh election.
We have over 300,000,000 people to choose as our elected representatives
for public office in this Republic... time to tap into that much larger
breeding pool and get some real people, not professional politicians.
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
I would guess that every 2 years would be sufficient unless you are putting huge numbers of miles on the car. I believe that some of the truckers use a system where the coolant is tested to see if it retains the right elements and that there is a kit to reactivate the coolant without actually changing it out. Given the volume on a car, it is likely cheaper to just change it but I would sort of doubt you need to do it every 6 months. Randy On 11/07/2012 10:57 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Actually I think even Marshall said that the green coolant was OK if you changed it twice a year. Allan On Tue, Jul 10, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. August Marshall Booth is rolling over about now... ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel Prices
So, what are y'all paying these days? I filled with diesel this morning at $1.099 per liter. Regular gasoline is $1.219. For those that don't remember, I am in Winnipeg. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Truckers and industrial engine users typically employ test kits or sampling to determine the condition of the coolant. In sleeved engines, an anti cavitation additive (DCA) is added to prevent cavitation on the outside of the liners, which can damage and potentially destroy them. This is tested for as well using test strips to determine the concentration of DCA in the coolant, which it usually added separately. Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I would guess that every 2 years would be sufficient unless you are putting huge numbers of miles on the car. I believe that some of the truckers use a system where the coolant is tested to see if it retains the right elements and that there is a kit to reactivate the coolant without actually changing it out. Given the volume on a car, it is likely cheaper to just change it but I would sort of doubt you need to do it every 6 months. Randy On 11/07/2012 10:57 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Actually I think even Marshall said that the green coolant was OK if you changed it twice a year. Allan On Tue, Jul 10, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. August Marshall Booth is rolling over about now... ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices
In $USD and gallons, $3.25/gallon for unleaded, $3.59/gallon for diesel. How's the weather up there? Has it been hot like the Lower 48? Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So, what are y'all paying these days? I filled with diesel this morning at $1.099 per liter. Regular gasoline is $1.219. For those that don't remember, I am in Winnipeg. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Prestone used to say change every fall and spring but maybe that's like the change your oil every 3,000 just a good way to sell more product!! Two years is the recommended change interval for the proper MB/G-05 coolant, if I were using green stuff I'd do it at least every year. Allan On Wed, Jul 11, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: I would guess that every 2 years would be sufficient unless you are putting huge numbers of miles on the car. I believe that some of the truckers use a system where the coolant is tested to see if it retains the right elements and that there is a kit to reactivate the coolant without actually changing it out. Given the volume on a car, it is likely cheaper to just change it but I would sort of doubt you need to do it every 6 months. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Was that back in the days when people would run tap water in the summer and coolant in the winter? On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: Prestone used to say change every fall and spring but maybe that's like the change your oil every 3,000 just a good way to sell more product!! Two years is the recommended change interval for the proper MB/G-05 coolant, if I were using green stuff I'd do it at least every year. Allan On Wed, Jul 11, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: I would guess that every 2 years would be sufficient unless you are putting huge numbers of miles on the car. I believe that some of the truckers use a system where the coolant is tested to see if it retains the right elements and that there is a kit to reactivate the coolant without actually changing it out. Given the volume on a car, it is likely cheaper to just change it but I would sort of doubt you need to do it every 6 months. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel purge leftover
I've done a few sets now... I soak the parts in the paint-bucket-carb-cleaner you can buy at parts store. It does a great job. I've had great results with my rebuilds... very happy with the stuff from Mercedes source to make jobs like this possible for the average DIY guy. Jaime On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Anyone tried it themselves with the setup offered by Mercedesource? Converted hydraulic jack and a case of various shims? If one did, what would the best means of cleaning them be? Ultrasonic setup of some sort? Or just soak in purge etc? Randy On 10/07/2012 8:04 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd probably go ahead and have the injectors redone (cleaned and adjusted). Call around there must be somewhere in the metropolis that can do it. http://www.jgparks.com/ Rick Sent from my iPhone __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
All coolant is mainly ethylene glycol (actually, some id propylene glycol which is less toxic). But the additives vary based largely on the metallurgy of the motor and the material used for elastomers (seals, like the water pump shaft seal). The additives are what wears out, leading to rust and corrosion. In the old days, coolant was changed at least annually until long-life coolant came out. Considering we are (usually) talking about older engines, I'm not sure the current labels (e.g. universal) really apply. Any coolant will prevent freezing and boil-over but some coolants will be less compatible with the insides of your motor. If you plan on keeping your MBZ, I'd go with the MBZ recommended coolant. Others may be OK but I'm not smart enough to know which. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Truckers and industrial engine users typically employ test kits or sampling to determine the condition of the coolant. In sleeved engines, an anti cavitation additive (DCA) is added to prevent cavitation on the outside of the liners, which can damage and potentially destroy them. This is tested for as well using test strips to determine the concentration of DCA in the coolant, which it usually added separately. Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I would guess that every 2 years would be sufficient unless you are putting huge numbers of miles on the car. I believe that some of the truckers use a system where the coolant is tested to see if it retains the right elements and that there is a kit to reactivate the coolant without actually changing it out. Given the volume on a car, it is likely cheaper to just change it but I would sort of doubt you need to do it every 6 months. Randy On 11/07/2012 10:57 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Actually I think even Marshall said that the green coolant was OK if you changed it twice a year. Allan On Tue, Jul 10, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. August Marshall Booth is rolling over about now... ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] seat motor fix
Ref: The alternative is to replace the cable. On my 126 (82 300SD) I discovered the cable end fittings had simply moved slightly away from each other which, in effect, made the sleeve too long for the flex cable inside. This had nothing to do with wear, the fittings were just not attached to the sleeve very well and they moved. I just pushed the fittings back onto the sleeve and then staked them back onto the sleeve using a sharp nail to penetrate the fitting and create bigger teeth to grip the plastic outer sleeve. I've never had one fail after this repair. The first time this happened to me I did buy a new cable and it too failed after a couple years. It seems that the end fittings were not adequately staked to the sleeve, even on a brand new cable. My experience was over 20 years ago so maybe the current replacement cables are better or maybe not. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] seat motor fix I wasn't going to reply to this, as I did not know what method the later card use for seat positioning. Now that I know it's a cable system, I will offer some advice: As previously stated, the cable ends can wear, allowing the drive cables to fail to engage with the drive sockets. You can verify this by moving the cable jackets around to take the slack out of them, effectively pushing the cable ends deeper into the drive sockets. If they engage and the seat works at this point, tie wrap the cable to the seat frame to keep it tight. This will work for several more years, possibly more depending on the duty cycle. The alternative is to replace the cable. I saw this on 126 seats several times, and tying the cable up to take the slack out did the trick. Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The seat is controlled by a cable (like an old-time speedo cable) with an outer sleeve and an inner flex cable. Probably, the end fittings have worked their way off the sleeve to the point one of the ends of the flex cable isn't engaging the socket. Assuming the flex cable isn't broken, you can probably push one (or both) fittings back onto the cable sleeve and stake it in place with a nail point. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] seat motor fix The passenger seat is out of the 95 e300D. I removed it because the thing would not slide on the rails front and back. Both rear and forward seat elevation motors are able to lift the seat. It also pivot the seat back in both directions. When I use the door controls, all motors fire up or make noise if they are not actually moving the seat. Right now the thing is upside down in the garage. I popped the wire connection cover off so that I could power up each pair of wires and see what they do. Black and white are lift at the front. Yellow and green lift the rear, purple and ? make noise but no motion. I think this is the problematic set. Has anybody done the repair to once more activate motion along the rails to get the dang thing to move toward and away from the dash? All assistance is welcome clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices - Weather
Hot and Dry for a while now. 31 now - supposed to get to 34 this afternoon = 90 ish which is hot for us. Very little rain so things are getting dry. Big maple tree near my house pulls so much water that my house starts to settle on the SE corner and my front door rubs. Need to put the sprinkler on and run up my water bill but today, there is a mains break a block away and we had no water at lunch time. Supposed to be fixed today so will put the sprinkler on this evening. Randy On 11/07/2012 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: In $USD and gallons, $3.25/gallon for unleaded, $3.59/gallon for diesel. How's the weather up there? Has it been hot like the Lower 48? Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So, what are y'all paying these days? I filled with diesel this morning at $1.099 per liter. Regular gasoline is $1.219. For those that don't remember, I am in Winnipeg. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
On 11/07/2012 1:57 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: All coolant is mainly ethylene glycol (actually, some id propylene glycol which is less toxic). But the additives vary based largely on the metallurgy of the motor and the material used for elastomers (seals, like the water pump shaft seal). The additives are what wears out, leading to rust and corrosion. In the old days, coolant was changed at least annually until long-life coolant came out. Considering we are (usually) talking about older engines, I'm not sure the current labels (e.g. universal) really apply. Any coolant will prevent freezing and boil-over but some coolants will be less compatible with the insides of your motor. If you plan on keeping your MBZ, I'd go with the MBZ recommended coolant. Others may be OK but I'm not smart enough to know which. Isn't that more of an issue with engines that are partly aluminum? My old 300D is pretty much cast iron so far as I know. I plan to swap to the Zerex stuff but so far it has green in it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices
I got gas at Costco last Thursday or Friday, $2.87. The other locals were anywhere from $2.98 to $3.10. SC has the lowest gas tax in the country I think, so our gas tends to be cheaper than most places. Looks like the Canadians extract theirs in excess quantities, like a lot of other places. --R On 7/11/12 1:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: In $USD and gallons, $3.25/gallon for unleaded, $3.59/gallon for diesel. How's the weather up there? Has it been hot like the Lower 48? Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So, what are y'all paying these days? I filled with diesel this morning at $1.099 per liter. Regular gasoline is $1.219. For those that don't remember, I am in Winnipeg. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300TD on ebay - russet brown
I normally hate brown cars but the milk chocolate (russet brown) color of this 300TD is strangely compelling. Plus, the AC runs ICE COLD. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-DIESEL-300TD-WAGON-LOW-ORIGINAL-MILES-GARAGED-DEALER-MAINTAINED-/22106811?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3378b4c2fb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices
Yes, our fuel taxes are high and keep going up. Our provincial government just bumped the taxes by .02 per liter this spring in the most recent budget. That of course works out to about $.08 per US gallon and I believe that our federal GST is taxed on top of it so if the PST goes up then so does the GST portion. Randy On 11/07/2012 2:27 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I got gas at Costco last Thursday or Friday, $2.87. The other locals were anywhere from $2.98 to $3.10. SC has the lowest gas tax in the country I think, so our gas tends to be cheaper than most places. Looks like the Canadians extract theirs in excess quantities, like a lot of other places. --R On 7/11/12 1:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: In $USD and gallons, $3.25/gallon for unleaded, $3.59/gallon for diesel. How's the weather up there? Has it been hot like the Lower 48? Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So, what are y'all paying these days? I filled with diesel this morning at $1.099 per liter. Regular gasoline is $1.219. For those that don't remember, I am in Winnipeg. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel purge leftover
Jaime, What do you use for a pop tester? Also, did you get an assortment of shims or do you just buy them as needed? Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've done a few sets now... I soak the parts in the paint-bucket-carb-cleaner you can buy at parts store. It does a great job. I've had great results with my rebuilds... very happy with the stuff from Mercedes source to make jobs like this possible for the average DIY guy. Jaime On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Anyone tried it themselves with the setup offered by Mercedesource? Converted hydraulic jack and a case of various shims? If one did, what would the best means of cleaning them be? Ultrasonic setup of some sort? Or just soak in purge etc? Randy On 10/07/2012 8:04 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd probably go ahead and have the injectors redone (cleaned and adjusted). Call around there must be somewhere in the metropolis that can do it. http://www.jgparks.com/ Rick Sent from my iPhone __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: mail clients
Brian Toscano wrote: Just wondering how many people prefer to use a Webmail program like Gmail or Yahoo vs using IMAP to download mail into a program that runs on a local computer, like Apples Mail program? Craig wrote: I use Sylpheed on my local computer, downloading email via POP3. My old emails and address books are not on someone else's server, waiting for someone to break in and cause havoc (like a friend had happen recently). They are backed up locally so I won't loose them (like the friend did). It doesn't even have to be someone breaking in. Data that's considered in transit is better protected with regards to privacy for (I think) 120 days. After it's been on a server, (say, Gmail or Yahoo or Hotmail) longer than that, the privacy laws are much more lax and and falls under data storage rather than message in transit. But it's possible it's less convenient... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD on ebay - russet brown
Very nice, but I am wondering what all the holes are from in the driver's side front wheel arch. Look in the engine compartment pics of the area just forward of the tach amp and you'll see what I mean. Bet it goes for over $10k. People are paying stupid prices for these cars. Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:28 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I normally hate brown cars but the milk chocolate (russet brown) color of this 300TD is strangely compelling. Plus, the AC runs ICE COLD. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-DIESEL-300TD-WAGON-LOW-ORIGINAL-MILES-GARAGED-DEALER-MAINTAINED-/22106811?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3378b4c2fb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD on ebay - russet brown
It also has a pretty nice dent in the left quarter panel as well. Those wheel arch holes look very strange. The armrest will need to be recovered too. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD on ebay - russet brown Very nice, but I am wondering what all the holes are from in the driver's side front wheel arch. Look in the engine compartment pics of the area just forward of the tach amp and you'll see what I mean. Bet it goes for over $10k. People are paying stupid prices for these cars. Dan On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:28 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I normally hate brown cars but the milk chocolate (russet brown) color of this 300TD is strangely compelling. Plus, the AC runs ICE COLD. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-DIESEL-300TD-WAGON-L OW-ORIGINAL-MILES-GARAGED-DEALER-MAINTAINED-/22106811?pt=US_Cars_Trucks hash=item3378b4c2fb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
My '84 190D is the only MB I've ever had with proper coolant in it and its the only one that has an issue with heating up. Rather I think its problem is actually with the sender or gauge. So far I've replaced the radiator (it leaked anyway) radiator cap and thermostat with no change. It never actually overheats but the gauge climbs higher than I'm comfortable with. I've got another gauge which will be my next test. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:40:50 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Message-ID: 4ffd9e82.5030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/07/2012 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've had a few MB's with green coolant that did NOT overheat. One mechanic I talked to said he would put any color coolant I wanted in the engine. ;^) While I certainly do think its a bad idea to mix coolants, and MB coolant is certainly preferable, I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. Probably not so much of an issue of the color as it is of how long one leaves it in the engine. I think the idea is that it should be replace every couple of years but people do not do it. Did the proper coolant even exist in 1976 when my 300D was new? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Strike that, reverse it its okay if you change it no less often than once every two years I think was Marshall's wisdom, maybe even no matter what coolant you are using. I don't remember that specifically though. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:57:06 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Message-ID: 134206.30014.140661100727785.49adb...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain Actually I think even Marshall said that the green coolant was OK if you changed it twice a year. Allan On Tue, Jul 10, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. August Marshall Booth is rolling over about now... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
I can tell you that at least neither my '83 and '78 240Ds had fan clutches so I'd be willing to bet Dimitri's doesn't either. Rusty's site agrees with me, I looked up a '78 240D and '78 300CD, the CD has a fan clutch listed, the 240D doesn't even have an entry for one. At a guess, a gasser might have one because its so much quieter. AFAIK the diesels were the bottom of the bottom of the line with the 240D at the bottom of the diesels (at least after the 200/220D was discontinued) -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:18:59 -0700 From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Message-ID: f06240807cc228d7b9fe2@[172.25.104.133] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
That's what my Indy uses-he claims it is approved for MB. (what that means I don't know-part of the universe?) Dwight On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So what is the deal with the universal coolant? I have some G05 and will use it when I replace the Mamabenz's water pump, but that universal stuff is everywhere, and seems like it would be a reasonable choice, but then I have nothing to base that on other than it is universal. --R On 7/11/12 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. Mine's not! It's G05, with dye in it. (I was chasing a leak.) -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD on ebay - russet brown
I see that I've swayed you to the dark side:) Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:28 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I normally hate brown cars but the milk chocolate (russet brown) color of this 300TD is strangely compelling. Plus, the AC runs ICE COLD. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-DIESEL-300TD-WAGON-LOW-ORIGINAL-MILES-GARAGED-DEALER-MAINTAINED-/22106811?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item3378b4c2fb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML sizes
Nope - my gasser is 3.2. Depends on which model years, chassis series, etc. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I think you got that backwards. The CDI was 3.2 as I believe the bluetec was (same thing as CDI?) The gassers were 3.5 On 7/9/2012 9:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...It would be 3.2 right?... No. The ML Bluetec is a 3.0 and the new 265hp diesel is 3.5. The 3-valve gassers were 3.2. RLE __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
I think it depends on how long the green stuff has been in there, and whether it's ever been changed. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I've had a few MB's with green coolant that did NOT overheat. One mechanic I talked to said he would put any color coolant I wanted in the engine. ;^) While I certainly do think its a bad idea to mix coolants, and MB coolant is certainly preferable, I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the new radiators from Rusty were less than $300 FWIW, every MB that I've bought that overheated had green coolant, and no amount of cleaning, flushing, etc. cured them. The only thing that did was replacing the radiators. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Ok so where do I get citric acid? Someone here bought it online? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:52 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think it depends on how long the green stuff has been in there, and whether it's ever been changed. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I've had a few MB's with green coolant that did NOT overheat. One mechanic I talked to said he would put any color coolant I wanted in the engine. ;^) While I certainly do think its a bad idea to mix coolants, and MB coolant is certainly preferable, I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the new radiators from Rusty were less than $300 FWIW, every MB that I've bought that overheated had green coolant, and no amount of cleaning, flushing, etc. cured them. The only thing that did was replacing the radiators. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Perhaps Me? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:29:04 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Ok so where do I get citric acid? Someone here bought it online? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:52 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think it depends on how long the green stuff has been in there, and whether it's ever been changed. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I've had a few MB's with green coolant that did NOT overheat. One mechanic I talked to said he would put any color coolant I wanted in the engine. ;^) While I certainly do think its a bad idea to mix coolants, and MB coolant is certainly preferable, I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the new radiators from Rusty were less than $300 FWIW, every MB that I've bought that overheated had green coolant, and no amount of cleaning, flushing, etc. cured them. The only thing that did was replacing the radiators. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Good. Glad to hear someone here knows:) I'll be calling you soon as I think I need to bite the bullet on the injectors too. Diesel purge definitely helped but not enough. I only used one can though. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 5:37 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps Me? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:29:04 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Ok so where do I get citric acid? Someone here bought it online? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:52 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think it depends on how long the green stuff has been in there, and whether it's ever been changed. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I've had a few MB's with green coolant that did NOT overheat. One mechanic I talked to said he would put any color coolant I wanted in the engine. ;^) While I certainly do think its a bad idea to mix coolants, and MB coolant is certainly preferable, I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the new radiators from Rusty were less than $300 FWIW, every MB that I've bought that overheated had green coolant, and no amount of cleaning, flushing, etc. cured them. The only thing that did was replacing the radiators. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] coolant change
...Two years is the recommended change interval for the proper MB/G-05 coolant, .Allan.. Not any more. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
Kpp Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 4:37 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps Me? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:29:04 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot. Ok so where do I get citric acid? Someone here bought it online? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:52 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think it depends on how long the green stuff has been in there, and whether it's ever been changed. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I've had a few MB's with green coolant that did NOT overheat. One mechanic I talked to said he would put any color coolant I wanted in the engine. ;^) While I certainly do think its a bad idea to mix coolants, and MB coolant is certainly preferable, I do NOT think green coolant is as bad as some people say. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the new radiators from Rusty were less than $300 FWIW, every MB that I've bought that overheated had green coolant, and no amount of cleaning, flushing, etc. cured them. The only thing that did was replacing the radiators. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: FWIW, my 1970 220 (gas, manual W115) does indeed have a visco-fan clutch. Can't see why the gasser would have it vs diesel not. My 220 gas was the base-base-base model. Manual steering, locks and transmission, crank windows, no AC. Easiest test: get the engine good and hot. Open the hood, rev the engine to about 3000rpm and you should hear/feel the fan roar. At higher RPMs it should disengage, theory being that if you are at higher RPM you are moving quickly enough that there will be natural airflow through the radiator. If you want, you can always test by rigging up a lock on the fan to prevent the clutch from slipping (wire wrap or something). If it still runs hot with the fan locked, that implicates the radiator. In all probability, the radiator is shot. I had mine recored; it was a piece of cake to remove (no oil cooler and no transmission cooler). They did a fantastic job on the rebuild for about $300. Long shot: does your thermostat housing have a bleed screw like the M115 and OM617.91 engines? If there's air trapped at the thermostat, that could prevent it from opening fully. D. Curt Raymond wrote: IIRC we're talking about a 220D which to my scanty knowledge shouldn't have a fan clutch. My 240D certainly doesn't. -- -- David Bruckmann, Temescal/Oakland, CA 1966 Citroen DS21M Pallas Celeste 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 (250,000 km) Blanche 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5 (160,000 km) Blauer Engel 1973 Mercedes-Benz 450SLC (210,000 km) Lottie 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (150,000 km) Piaf 1976 Mercedes-Benz 300D/8 (225,000 km) Willow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To
Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
As I understand it, new all-metal rads for W115 are NLA, vs the later plastic ones from Nissens and Behr which seem to be pretty easy to come by. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the new radiators from Rusty were less than $300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mate ya wanna buy a Merc from Broken Hill
http://www.australiancarsales.com/carsforsale/detail.php?id=6843user_id=8522contact=1 Hendrik who can translate if need be ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Larry loves ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbX22w9qwsfeature=fvwrel Hendrik who don't like used car salesmen ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Larry loves ya
Here is some truth in advertising. Caution. Strong language. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVmNzoy6HKIfeature=youtube_gdata_player Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2012, at 10:19 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbX22w9qwsfeature=fvwrel Hendrik who don't like used car salesmen ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] coolant change
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:59:49 -0400 (EDT) relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Two years is the recommended change interval for the proper MB/G-05 coolant, .Allan.. Not any more. What is the recommended change interval now? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
