Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again?
Think about the phrase, Go outside and play! Not many kids today would understand that. I can remember when you didn't want to come inside at the end of the day... Dan On Aug 20, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: At only 7 to 11, about the only thing I did for the war effort during WWII was scrounge up scrap metal coupla times and take it to school for scrap drive. Wilton Yes, and that was a significant contribution for a kid. The amount of scrap scrounged by kids during WWII is amazing. Just think if all the things you gave up too. No video games, no tv, no cell phone, no skateboard, no designer jeans or shirts. No nikie or other big brand shoes. How could you possibly live without all the necessities modern kids need. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] occupying the deadly 3rd row.
Just the typical US protect everyone from themselves attitude. We all should drive huge and heavy vehicles so when we are unlucky or just stupid we can live on. Never mind actually knowing how to drive and paying attention to what is in front of you. Mike On Aug 20, 2012 7:39 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: So you are saying that MB (and Volvo) engineered a death trap? Well I am pretty sure when MB decided to build the S123 and thought it would be handy to put a couple of extra seats in the back, that they envisaged the possibility that the car could be involved in a rear end collision. They may even have done a few crash tests to determine what would happen to the rear compartment in the event of a crash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=K5mIYDod-lkNR=1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mIYDod-lkNR=1 Also the fuel tank is designed to drop down but not hit the road. The question is what is safer, having kids sit on laps without seat belts or sit in the third row seat? In regards to two trucks http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=LrtOMLHx7cchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrtOMLHx7cc Hendrik who owns a death trap On 20/08/12 13:04, relng...@aol.com wrote: So then, what would happen to them in case of a rear end collision is of no concern. Huh? Of course what happens to them in a rear-end collision is of concern. But why limit the discussion to only that one kind? What would happen to them in a T-bone accident? I suspect they would be better off in the third seat. Or a head-on? I'm sure they would be safer in the rear-facing seat. What about Rollover? Rear-quarter? Front quarter? Space shuttle pieces landing on top? Underwater? So I guess I need to decide which type of collision I am going to encounter and then choose the appropriate vehicle. In a rear end collision in that vehicle the rear hatch is likely to be crushed forward into the very area occupied by those 3rd seat occupants and they would be trapped until the crushed metal was removed. Or how they would escape in case of fire? See previous answe.r My suburban carries a large quantity of gasoline. My wagon carries diesel. Therefore the danger from fire is _less_ in the car with the rear-facing seats. Why bring up your truck? Was this a comparison with it? Not by me. So what fire are you referring to? Where? Caused by what? Burning what? And why is the rear hatch not opening? Because the rear of the car will be crushed. And isn't the fuel tank aft of the axle under that seat? What is the scenario where you feel a rear-facing 3rd seat is a greater danger than a forward facing 3rd seat with regard to a fire? Previously answered. My argument is that the 3rd row's hazards outweigh any convenience and it wouldn't make any difference which way it faced. About ten years ago near here on I-405 one of those longbody Econoline passenger vans with four rows was caught in a sandwich crash between two semis and caught fire. Those in the rear were incinerated, alive. RLE RLE __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ages
I was 7 to 11 years old. Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ages ..The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946. Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them... Weren't both of them in elementary school during those years? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again?
Oh, I forgot; I did buy several 10-cent war bond stamps. $25 bond cost $18.75; bond stamps were also sold at school; the stamps were put in a book until enough were accumulated to = $18.75 for a bond. I never had enough money to accumulate $18.75; I think my book with a few stamps is still here somewhere. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again? At only 7 to 11, about the only thing I did for the war effort during WWII was scrounge up scrap metal coupla times and take it to school for scrap drive. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again? It's awesome that our seasoned citizens share those memories for us all, lest we forget the sacrifices made in past times. -R yep! Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. We are dangerously close to repeating some huge mistakes of 60 years ago, and 100 years ago. That recent history is well documented and easy to discover. The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946. Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them. And speaking of the railroads of WWII, the steam engines were amazing. Ever been up close to a large steam locomotive that is fired up and pulling a load? Wow! I have been around a narrow gauge medium size locomotive, and it is amazing how it makes the earth move. I can only imagine the big fast locomotives. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again?
'Dragged the scrap a mile or so to school bus stop; 'had helluva time getting an old car door onto the bus. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again? At only 7 to 11, about the only thing I did for the war effort during WWII was scrounge up scrap metal coupla times and take it to school for scrap drive. Wilton Yes, and that was a significant contribution for a kid. The amount of scrap scrounged by kids during WWII is amazing. Just think if all the things you gave up too. No video games, no tv, no cell phone, no skateboard, no designer jeans or shirts. No nikie or other big brand shoes. How could you possibly live without all the necessities modern kids need. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] occupying the deadly 3rd row.
The problem with that statement is that one can be as careful as possible and get run into by someone who is paying little or no attention or who is but takes big chances on the road/ I suppose wagons with 3rd row seats are more dangerous for passengers in those seats but the ones that make me nervous are the little hatchbacks like Honda Civic etc. My younger son's girlfriend drives a nice little red Civic 2 door hatchback. Cute little car and mostly she is alone but I look at the back seat and think I don't want to be in there if it gets hit from behind, especially if the vehicle that hits it is a truck. Randy On 21/08/2012 7:55 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Just the typical US protect everyone from themselves attitude. We all should drive huge and heavy vehicles so when we are unlucky or just stupid we can live on. Never mind actually knowing how to drive and paying attention to what is in front of you. Mike On Aug 20, 2012 7:39 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: So you are saying that MB (and Volvo) engineered a death trap? Well I am pretty sure when MB decided to build the S123 and thought it would be handy to put a couple of extra seats in the back, that they envisaged the possibility that the car could be involved in a rear end collision. They may even have done a few crash tests to determine what would happen to the rear compartment in the event of a crash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=K5mIYDod-lkNR=1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mIYDod-lkNR=1 Also the fuel tank is designed to drop down but not hit the road. The question is what is safer, having kids sit on laps without seat belts or sit in the third row seat? In regards to two trucks http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=LrtOMLHx7cchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrtOMLHx7cc Hendrik who owns a death trap On 20/08/12 13:04, relng...@aol.com wrote: So then, what would happen to them in case of a rear end collision is of no concern. Huh? Of course what happens to them in a rear-end collision is of concern. But why limit the discussion to only that one kind? What would happen to them in a T-bone accident? I suspect they would be better off in the third seat. Or a head-on? I'm sure they would be safer in the rear-facing seat. What about Rollover? Rear-quarter? Front quarter? Space shuttle pieces landing on top? Underwater? So I guess I need to decide which type of collision I am going to encounter and then choose the appropriate vehicle. In a rear end collision in that vehicle the rear hatch is likely to be crushed forward into the very area occupied by those 3rd seat occupants and they would be trapped until the crushed metal was removed. Or how they would escape in case of fire? See previous answe.r My suburban carries a large quantity of gasoline. My wagon carries diesel. Therefore the danger from fire is _less_ in the car with the rear-facing seats. Why bring up your truck? Was this a comparison with it? Not by me. So what fire are you referring to? Where? Caused by what? Burning what? And why is the rear hatch not opening? Because the rear of the car will be crushed. And isn't the fuel tank aft of the axle under that seat? What is the scenario where you feel a rear-facing 3rd seat is a greater danger than a forward facing 3rd seat with regard to a fire? Previously answered. My argument is that the 3rd row's hazards outweigh any convenience and it wouldn't make any difference which way it faced. About ten years ago near here on I-405 one of those longbody Econoline passenger vans with four rows was caught in a sandwich crash between two semis and caught fire. Those in the rear were incinerated, alive. RLE RLE __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] passenger miles
Uhh, lies, d*mned lies and then statistics in that order. Randy On 20/08/2012 9:00 PM, Dieselhead wrote: 3rd seat in a MB wagon, especially Diesel, is safer than in any seat in a toada (and probably if you study the statistics, more people are killed in porches per passenger mile, than MB wagons).. Using passenger miles to try to prove something, and no one does any more, provides skewed numbers which should be obvious to anyone. Please point me to the statistics that you claim proves your point, whatever it may be. RLE Show me valid statistics that prove otherwise. I did invite you to study the statistics. I did NOT volunteer to do so. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again?
When my great aunt passed back in the 80s I helped my Mom clean out her apartment (Mom was the executrix of her estate.) Besides coffee cans full of silver coins, we found bundles of War bonds wrapped in rubber bands. Unlike current US savings bonds, which stop earning interest when they mature, war bonds continue earning interest until surrendered. Needless to say, there were some small face value bonds worth a lot of $$$ in those bundles. Dan On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, I forgot; I did buy several 10-cent war bond stamps. $25 bond cost $18.75; bond stamps were also sold at school; the stamps were put in a book until enough were accumulated to = $18.75 for a bond. I never had enough money to accumulate $18.75; I think my book with a few stamps is still here somewhere. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again? At only 7 to 11, about the only thing I did for the war effort during WWII was scrounge up scrap metal coupla times and take it to school for scrap drive. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again? It's awesome that our seasoned citizens share those memories for us all, lest we forget the sacrifices made in past times. -R yep! Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. We are dangerously close to repeating some huge mistakes of 60 years ago, and 100 years ago. That recent history is well documented and easy to discover. The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946. Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them. And speaking of the railroads of WWII, the steam engines were amazing. Ever been up close to a large steam locomotive that is fired up and pulling a load? Wow! I have been around a narrow gauge medium size locomotive, and it is amazing how it makes the earth move. I can only imagine the big fast locomotives. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
yes - saw both, wondered why you sent two. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lock night
In the end I want to have both locks working so I figure if I have to pull any I want to fix both. It doesn't take that long. This is something I should have done awhile ago. I finally found (of course after I was all done) my bottle of good teflon lock lubricant. When I have it apart again I'll clean all the graphite back out and use that. -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:07:40 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lock night Message-ID: 3cf02790-b733-4670-8bf4-854af1f36...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry. I must have. That was one of my favorite swaps - the driver's door lock gets grungy, so just get the passenger side and swap them out... Dan On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: You apparently missed the bit where I wrote I realized that neither lock would work. If I need to pull both locks and fix both locks I figured starting with the driver's lock would get me a working lock the most quickly... I think the road salt we use here gets into the lock and helps to globber up the graphite. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
Yup - doesn't compute for me either, but then again, I barely do the tone CW. I heard stories of comm sargents in WWII, from the hams at Ft. Sill, who would lie back and listen to a stream of CW, then get up and write down a paragraph of text, with no errors. Amazing stuff. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: yeah, i hear what you mean about the 'click' not sounding like the CW we're familiar with, but i guess i heard 2 different tones, which i interpreted immediately as dots and dashes, and from there it's just about the rhythm... Then you're better than me. The dash has a click like the dot and then a clack. If click = dot and clack = dash I might do okay, but the my brain gave up when the clicks and clicks from the click-clacks started running together. The data about that first sound clip from the hosting page. We don't have the documentation to go with the discs, but the record logically enough, starts with ten single dots, then ten single dashes. There next follows the letter A (di-dah) 5 times, then letter B (dah-dididit) 5 times. At this point, if you are not into the original American Morse, consternation reigns! Probably we are expecting letter ___C___to be 'dah-di-dah-dit', as in the International Morse Code? No! In American Morse, ___C___ was ___didit , dit___, the comma indicating a space within the character. http://www.normanfield.com/morse.htm -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost again?
'Cause first one never came thru here. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? yes - saw both, wondered why you sent two. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5209 - Release Date: 08/19/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 flasher rebuild - early style
I have an early 1981 car that is a bit of an oddball. It seems to have many of the traits of both the early and the late W123s. Unfortunately, it has the flasher driver in the console switch from the early series. Last winter when the car was cold the turn signals would flash fast but would return to a normal rate as the flasher warmed up. By spring it would flash so fast when cold it was more of a buzz and the light would appear dim 'cause it was too fast for the lamps to turn on and off. Well, it got worse. As of a few weeks ago, in the summer heat, it never slowed down. And I'm too cheap to pay even Rusty's prices. Last I checked it was about $90. I figure it was just an aging capacitor - but I had to get to it. Don't try this unless you are comfortable with small parts and a very fiddly re-assemble! Taking it out of the car was easy. I also have a broken spare. It is internally different, but interchangeable. On both, the case is two parts snapped together. Bending 30 year old plastic to unsnap the case is aways an iffy situation. Both of mine survived. Inside, the upper half contains the toggle mechanism, loose return springs, and the moving contacts part of the emergency switch. The lower half has the fix contacts part of the emergency switch and the circuit board - mounted solder side up. On both, the board is mounted by solder to metal pieces that are bonded to the plastic case usually at the external contact pins. But which of the many solder pads need to be de-soldered? On the one it was four, all along the edges. The other it was two, one on the edge and one by the pilot light hole in the middle. I'm guessing there are more variations... With the board out, the way was clear. One variation has one capacitor, clearly labeled as 100 uf 10 V. The other variation has two capacitors, one clearly labeled as 1 uf 63 V and the other had text printed on top. 47|16 I took that to mean 47 uf and 16 V. NOTE: Only one of the three I saw had the polarity marked on the circuit board - so make note of the polarity makings on the capacitor as you remove it!! I found suitable replacements in my junk box and replaced them all. Most likely, the small one on variation two was not the problem - but I didn't want to have to go though this process again. Both variations were single-sided boards without conformal coating so removing the old and installing the new was about as easy as through-hole component replacement gets. After re-soldering the hold-the-board-in-place joints it was time to put the two halves of the case back together. This is the fiddly part. The switch contacts extend beyond the case - on opposite sides. The coil springs like to fall out. The toggle catch arms try to fall out of place. With the case pieces together - but _just_ before actually snapping them together, I made sure the button would push. A number of times it didn't, and I was glad I didn't have to flex the plastic again to unsnap it. Once I got it snapped together, I put the pilot light back in and took it out to the car. Success!! Flasher speed of a usable rate! And my spare works too - but it still is missing the red lens. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To ejamacat woger WAS:Ages
Oh, yes, we also grew a big Victory garden. For fuel in the '37 Ford, we used 5 gallons of gasoline stretched with about a gallon and a half of kerosene. 'Didn't remember the ratio, so I just called my brother who was the family driver at that time to remind me. We went down the road laying a thin smoke screen behind us. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] To ejamacat woger WAS:Ages ..The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946. Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them... Weren't both of them in elementary school during those years? RLE I know... futile, because the first element of learning is a willing student Read this: http://www.qconline.com/progress99/2ration2.shtml It details many of the war effort contributions of kids, Scrap drives for tin, aluminum, steel, iron, rubber and other things. Collecting cooking grease for ammunition. Collecting and mending clothing items. Remember the GI was not outfitted for extreme cold, so socks, scarves, longjohns and other stuff was appreciated by the soldiers. The article does not mention the penny drives where kids raised significant amounts of money From http://www.nationalww2museum.org/learn/education/for-students/ww2-history/america-goes-to-war.html Save Waste Fat for Explosives Ammunition for rifles, artillery, mortars, and other weapons was one of the most important manufacturing priorities of World War II. A key ingredient needed to make the explosives in much ammunition was glycerine. To help produce more ammunition, Americans were encouraged to save household waste fat, which was used to make glycerine. Other household goods,including rags, paper, silk, and string,were also recycled. This was a home front project that all Americans could join. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 flasher rebuild - early style
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:48:10 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Success!! Flasher speed of a usable rate! And my spare works too - but it still is missing the red lens. ATTA BOY!!! I had to work on the flasher/emergency switch on our '72 220D so your description was quite familiar. It's amazing the lengths they went to in order to have flasher and emergency switch functions. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 flasher rebuild - early style
Yep, 'nother ATTABOY!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 flasher rebuild - early style On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:48:10 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Success!! Flasher speed of a usable rate! And my spare works too - but it still is missing the red lens. ATTA BOY!!! I had to work on the flasher/emergency switch on our '72 220D so your description was quite familiar. It's amazing the lengths they went to in order to have flasher and emergency switch functions. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To ejamacat woger WAS:Ages
Darn! Wish I'd known that back then when I drove a '35 Chevy. The only thing I remember using kerosene for was car polish when mixed with motor oil. If those of us who had the use of a car had a Saturday night date, we would often go over the car with that mixture which made it nice and shiny. But if we took our date down the dusty dirt road to lovers lane, the car was an awful looking sight by the time we got back. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Oh, yes, we also grew a big Victory garden. For fuel in the '37 Ford, we used 5 gallons of gasoline stretched with about a gallon and a half of kerosene. 'Didn't remember the ratio, so I just called my brother who was the family driver at that time to remind me. We went down the road laying a thin smoke screen behind us. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] To ejamacat woger WAS:Ages ..The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946. Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them... Weren't both of them in elementary school during those years? RLE I know... futile, because the first element of learning is a willing student Read this: http://www.qconline.com/progress99/2ration2.shtml It details many of the war effort contributions of kids, Scrap drives for tin, aluminum, steel, iron, rubber and other things. Collecting cooking grease for ammunition. Collecting and mending clothing items. Remember the GI was not outfitted for extreme cold, so socks, scarves, longjohns and other stuff was appreciated by the soldiers. The article does not mention the penny drives where kids raised significant amounts of money From http://www.nationalww2museum.org/learn/education/for-students/ww2-history/america-goes-to-war.html Save Waste Fat for Explosives Ammunition for rifles, artillery, mortars, and other weapons was one of the most important manufacturing priorities of World War II. A key ingredient needed to make the explosives in much ammunition was glycerine. To help produce more ammunition, Americans were encouraged to save household waste fat, which was used to make glycerine. Other household goods,including rags, paper, silk, and string,were also recycled. This was a home front project that all Americans could join. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5212 - Release Date: 08/20/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To ejamacat woger WAS:Ages
In '67, we SAC B-52 alert crewmen did very quick wax/polish of several drab Air Force blue alert vehicles ( 4-door crew cab pickups) with mixture of Diesel fuel and water. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] To ejamacat woger WAS:Ages Darn! Wish I'd known that back then when I drove a '35 Chevy. The only thing I remember using kerosene for was car polish when mixed with motor oil. If those of us who had the use of a car had a Saturday night date, we would often go over the car with that mixture which made it nice and shiny. But if we took our date down the dusty dirt road to lovers lane, the car was an awful looking sight by the time we got back. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Oh, yes, we also grew a big Victory garden. For fuel in the '37 Ford, we used 5 gallons of gasoline stretched with about a gallon and a half of kerosene. 'Didn't remember the ratio, so I just called my brother who was the family driver at that time to remind me. We went down the road laying a thin smoke screen behind us. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] To ejamacat woger WAS:Ages ..The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946. Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them... Weren't both of them in elementary school during those years? RLE I know... futile, because the first element of learning is a willing student Read this: http://www.qconline.com/progress99/2ration2.shtml It details many of the war effort contributions of kids, Scrap drives for tin, aluminum, steel, iron, rubber and other things. Collecting cooking grease for ammunition. Collecting and mending clothing items. Remember the GI was not outfitted for extreme cold, so socks, scarves, longjohns and other stuff was appreciated by the soldiers. The article does not mention the penny drives where kids raised significant amounts of money From http://www.nationalww2museum.org/learn/education/for-students/ww2-history/america-goes-to-war.html Save Waste Fat for Explosives Ammunition for rifles, artillery, mortars, and other weapons was one of the most important manufacturing priorities of World War II. A key ingredient needed to make the explosives in much ammunition was glycerine. To help produce more ammunition, Americans were encouraged to save household waste fat, which was used to make glycerine. Other household goods,including rags, paper, silk, and string,were also recycled. This was a home front project that all Americans could join. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5212 - Release Date: 08/20/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '07 R320CDI flat tire
Son called to ask for help with flat tire on his 07 R320CDI; ran over sharp object in road; put spare on; realized it's a lightweight, deflated (inflate-when-needed) spare; little electric pump came with car, but pump is in other car. Son knows I have one of the pumps; took my pump to 'im coupla miles away out beside busy highway. Just glad it was nearby. Those of you with the newer cars, check spares to be familiar with what you have. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '07 R320CDI flat tire
Yup, finding a used full sized wheel/tire for the Passat is on my to-do list! At least the storage space for the spare is big enough for a real whhel/tire. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:40 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Son called to ask for help with flat tire on his 07 R320CDI; ran over sharp object in road; put spare on; realized it's a lightweight, deflated (inflate-when-needed) spare; little electric pump came with car, but pump is in other car. Son knows I have one of the pumps; took my pump to 'im coupla miles away out beside busy highway. Just glad it was nearby. Those of you with the newer cars, check spares to be familiar with what you have. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
Hello All: I need help. My right rear spring mount has broken - and I have welded it once. Won't hold the shock in anymore and has substantial rot at the spring too. May call this a rear lower control arm as well. Anyone have a decent used on or know a source for a new one? Thanks - Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
Peter, How's about some details, like what model car, etc Dan On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: Hello All: I need help. My right rear spring mount has broken - and I have welded it once. Won't hold the shock in anymore and has substantial rot at the spring too. May call this a rear lower control arm as well. Anyone have a decent used on or know a source for a new one? Thanks - Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 flasher rebuild - early style
As Wilton sez: Attaboy! Congrats and thanks for the excellent writeup! I have an early 1981 car that is a bit of an oddball. It seems to have many of the traits of both the early and the late W123s. Unfortunately, it has the flasher driver in the console switch from the early series. Last winter when the car was cold the turn signals would flash fast but would return to a normal rate as the flasher warmed up. By spring it would flash so fast when cold it was more of a buzz and the light would appear dim 'cause it was too fast for the lamps to turn on and off. Well, it got worse. As of a few weeks ago, in the summer heat, it never slowed down. And I'm too cheap to pay even Rusty's prices. Last I checked it was about $90. I figure it was just an aging capacitor - but I had to get to it. Don't try this unless you are comfortable with small parts and a very fiddly re-assemble! Taking it out of the car was easy. I also have a broken spare. It is internally different, but interchangeable. On both, the case is two parts snapped together. Bending 30 year old plastic to unsnap the case is aways an iffy situation. Both of mine survived. Inside, the upper half contains the toggle mechanism, loose return springs, and the moving contacts part of the emergency switch. The lower half has the fix contacts part of the emergency switch and the circuit board - mounted solder side up. On both, the board is mounted by solder to metal pieces that are bonded to the plastic case usually at the external contact pins. But which of the many solder pads need to be de-soldered? On the one it was four, all along the edges. The other it was two, one on the edge and one by the pilot light hole in the middle. I'm guessing there are more variations... With the board out, the way was clear. One variation has one capacitor, clearly labeled as 100 uf 10 V. The other variation has two capacitors, one clearly labeled as 1 uf 63 V and the other had text printed on top. 47|16 I took that to mean 47 uf and 16 V. NOTE: Only one of the three I saw had the polarity marked on the circuit board - so make note of the polarity makings on the capacitor as you remove it!! I found suitable replacements in my junk box and replaced them all. Most likely, the small one on variation two was not the problem - but I didn't want to have to go though this process again. Both variations were single-sided boards without conformal coating so removing the old and installing the new was about as easy as through-hole component replacement gets. After re-soldering the hold-the-board-in-place joints it was time to put the two halves of the case back together. This is the fiddly part. The switch contacts extend beyond the case - on opposite sides. The coil springs like to fall out. The toggle catch arms try to fall out of place. With the case pieces together - but _just_ before actually snapping them together, I made sure the button would push. A number of times it didn't, and I was glad I didn't have to flex the plastic again to unsnap it. Once I got it snapped together, I put the pilot light back in and took it out to the car. Success!! Flasher speed of a usable rate! And my spare works too - but it still is missing the red lens. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
Ummm duh.1983 300d. Sorry distraught over this last development with my ride. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Peter, How's about some details, like what model car, etc Dan On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: Hello All: I need help. My right rear spring mount has broken - and I have welded it once. Won't hold the shock in anymore and has substantial rot at the spring too. May call this a rear lower control arm as well. Anyone have a decent used on or know a source for a new one? Thanks - Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 flasher rebuild - early style
There is nothing more satisfying than making these cheap but involved repairs. I would liken it to replacing caps in a dead clock - sure, it takes some time to do, but after a couple of bucks worth of parts, all is well again and you saved yourself big bucks. Dan On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Dieselhead wrote: As Wilton sez: Attaboy! Congrats and thanks for the excellent writeup! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
Understood. I know that 126 chassis cars used to do this frequently - never saw a 123 do it, but in the right environment I can image in it would happen. Sorry to hear about it... hopefully Kaleb or someone else on the list will have a donor. Dan On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: Ummm duh.1983 300d. Sorry distraught over this last development with my ride. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
If you want used, car-part.com is your friend. I doubt they list a LCA, but do a search for a diff. pick 2-3 of the low price listings for a diff, and just call that yard and ask for the LCA you need. But if you don't mind spending a Franklin, Call mr. Q in the morning. Understood. I know that 126 chassis cars used to do this frequently - never saw a 123 do it, but in the right environment I can image in it would happen. Sorry to hear about it... hopefully Kaleb or someone else on the list will have a donor. Dan On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: Ummm duh.1983 300d. Sorry distraught over this last development with my ride. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] occupying the deadly 3rd row.
Mike wrote: Just the typical US protect everyone from themselves attitude. We all should drive huge and heavy vehicles so when we are unlucky or just stupid we can live on. And... apply the same attitude to the boomers (me) coming to full age fruition and looming health care costs. Yep - just realize ya gonna die, and die already. What is with the attitude that life proceeds at whatever cost? Pure idiocy! Try to make sense of that and the death panel label gets dragged out. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 flasher rebuild - early style
Dieselhead wrote: As Wilton sez: Attaboy! Congrats and thanks for the excellent writeup! Thanks! *smiles* I keep a lot of the write-ups from others - and technically the list archive has them. It's a nice compliment to the factory manual. Figured I should contribute. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Does concentrated coolant have a shelf life?
I have a couple of jugs of undiluted genuine MB coolant, but they are at least 5, maybe close to 10 years old. Any reason not to use it? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
Where are you located? Any interest in a parts car? I have an '83 300D that I'm thinking about selling. Allan Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: Ummm duh.1983 300d. Sorry distraught over this last development with my ride. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
Where is your car located? Michael E. Esh www.michaelesh.bodybyvi.com On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Where are you located? Any interest in a parts car? I have an '83 300D that I'm thinking about selling. Allan Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: Ummm duh.1983 300d. Sorry distraught over this last development with my ride. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
Bloomington, IN. Mike Esh michael...@me.com writes: Where is your car located? Michael E. Esh www.michaelesh.bodybyvi.com On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Where are you located? Any interest in a parts car? I have an '83 300D that I'm thinking about selling. Allan Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: Ummm duh.1983 300d. Sorry distraught over this last development with my ride. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Righ Rear Spring Perch
That is about 6 hours from me. Whitehall, MI Michael E. Esh www.michaelesh.bodybyvi.com On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:49 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Bloomington, IN. Mike Esh michael...@me.com writes: Where is your car located? Michael E. Esh www.michaelesh.bodybyvi.com On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Where are you located? Any interest in a parts car? I have an '83 300D that I'm thinking about selling. Allan Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: Ummm duh.1983 300d. Sorry distraught over this last development with my ride. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What a beautiful car
My God, look at that paint. And the grille surround. And the top. There's a restoration with no expense spared. But then all of Seinfeld's cars are like that. http://mbworld.org/articles/seinfeld-and-alec-baldwin-get-coffee-in-a-merced es-benz-280sl/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
