Re: [MBZ] Fuel leak

[Fmiser]

> > Max wrote:
> >
> > Suffered a massive fuel leak while driving from Columbia SC
> > to Charleston today.  The fuel shut-off valve, built into the
> > hollow bolt on the main fuel filter, came apart on the road.
> > Fuel was pouring out, pressurized.

> > Probably lost about fifteen gallons of diesel.

> Dieselhead wrote:
>
> I gather this was the newer sedan, and not the wagon.  Was
> this an OM606?  Why did they depart from the shutoff being the
> rack in the IP?  That system is proven reliable
> 
> Is that why the changed?  because the prior system was
> reliable?

I'd guess the accountants figured out they could save $0.13 per
car if they made the change.

--Philip, who like cars designed by engineers, not accountants.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel leak

[Dieselhead]

Suffered a massive fuel leak while driving from Columbia SC to 
Charleston today.  The fuel shut-off valve, built into the hollow 
bolt on the main fuel filter, came apart on the road.  Fuel was 
pouring out, pressurized.  I noticed the fuel gauge was dropping 
rather quickly, then noticed the blue cloud rolling out the back.


Pulled off at the next gas station, patched as best I could, made it 
another 30 miles before the patch gave out, patched again and made 
it home.


Some knuckle head, not the present owner, removed the retaining pin 
which would have prevented this.  New valve, $129, is on the way 
from Q.


Hood pad was pretty well fuel soaked, so I've scraped that off, 
ordered one of those as well.  Washing the car and the engine 
compartment now.


Probably lost about fifteen gallons of diesel.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
'73 Balboa 20


I gather this was the newer sedan, and not the wagon.  Was this an 
OM606?  Why did they depart from the shutoff being the rack in the 
IP?  That system is proven reliable


Is that why the changed?  because the prior system was reliable?

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel leak

[Craig]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:02:02 -0500 Max Dillon 
wrote:

> Suffered a massive fuel leak while driving from Columbia SC to
> Charleston today.  The fuel shut-off valve, built into the hollow bolt
> on the main fuel filter, came apart on the road.  Fuel was pouring out,
> pressurized.  I noticed the fuel gauge was dropping rather quickly,
> then noticed the blue cloud rolling out the back.
>   
> Probably lost about fifteen gallons of diesel.

Yuck! What a mess! And expensive, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] How a Man's Man house should look

[Fmiser]

> Rich Thomas wrote:

> I like that transmission sink.

I have a transmission (or two) I'll sell you cheap if you want
to make your own. *grin*

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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: ASCO cable ?

[John Reames]

One possibility is 489672-001 (or -002 or -004), the other is 629798-001 (or 
-002 or -004)

-001 is 8", -002 is 4', and -004 is 9' for both.

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On Dec 11, 2012, at 17:50, John Reames  wrote:

> No hurry at all. 
> Thanks much!
> 
> (I'll check the part numbers for the cables when I get home)
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> On Dec 11, 2012, at 16:54, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> John,
>> 
>> I can contact some of my buddies in the business and see if they have the 
>> pinout or know of an alternative.
>> 
>> When we had diagnostic stuff like this we rarely bought the OEM bits - they 
>> charged us an arm and a leg for them, too, and figure the $$ involved when 
>> you have a fleet of 35-40 trucks, each that needs one...
>> 
>> Are you in a hurry?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:43 PM, John Reames wrote:
>> 
>>> A while back there was a brief mention of ATS's (auto transfer switches).
>>> 
>>> I'm wondering if anyone might have access to either an ASCO 4000,7000 or 
>>> "power manager" that uses the DE9 to connect to a "connectivity" module... 
>>> Or at least to the cable that goes between 'em.
>>> 
>>> If so, could you pop open the DE9 hoods and note the wiring? (Or take a 
>>> picture)
>>> 
>>> 8" DE9M->DE9F is better than $100. (And its not made by AudioQuest!)
>>> 
>>> I've been able to guess that its to carry power on pins 1 and 2, and TTL 
>>> everywhere else. (And they aren't straight through)
>>> 
>>> It looks like there are 3 lines held high (+5V), and 3 "floated" low (it 
>>> starts at about 0.1V and runs down to 0.01V), with one that's an additional 
>>> (signal) ground.
>>> 
>>> There aren't that many possibilities, so I will put a scope on the +5V 
>>> lines  at startup and see if any of them look like they might be data 
>>> lines...
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, the devices are multilayer boards that are heavy on SMD's; 
>>> one of them has no externally visible signal traces...
>>> 
>>> Oh, the boards are heavily conformally coated which makes it hard to read 
>>> the chips... But maybe I need better light and a magnifying glass for my 
>>> old eyes!
>>> 
>>> Anyhow, thanks in advance!
>>> 
>>> (Btw ASCO won't provide a wiring diagram)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[Max Dillon]

I'd say the garage could be to blame, but obviously we don't have all the 
information.  May be coincidence that a second problem occurred after the shop 
properly fixed the original problem.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
'73 Balboa 20

 Rusty Cullens  wrote:

>Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?
>
>Rusty Cullens
>buyMBparts, Inc.
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>From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald
>Snook
>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:24 AM
>To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
>Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem
>
>I have a friend who sent me the following email this morning:
>
>"Okay, we have a pretty big problem and I need your help getting someone to
>help.  Forrest has a '99 Ford pickup and we took it to Suzuki last week
>because it was leaking fluid.  They told us it was the heater coil that
>needed to be replaced.  We had to pay $1,200.00!!?!?!?!?  to get it fixed.
>They finished it Friday and Saturday morning we went to pick it up.  Mark
>and Forrest drove it home and it started shaking and then died.  They were
>able to get it in front of our house.  We had it towed in AGAIN to Suzuki
>and they called Mark today and said that they checked the check engine light
>and it said it had a blown gasket and the motor is locked up.  More or less
>it needs a new motor  BTW, the check engine light was on the first time
>we took it in.  We believe that it was misdiagnosed.  Mark has not talked to
>them since this morning and the truck is still there and we're not sure what
>to do."
>
>To me it sounds like maybe they did the heater core and failed to fill it
>back up with coolant or they filled it and it had lots of air in it and it
>wasn't burped.  But, that would mean they drove it while it was overheating.
>Any thoughts?
>
>Donald H. Snook
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[MBZ] Fuel leak

[Max Dillon]

Suffered a massive fuel leak while driving from Columbia SC to Charleston 
today.  The fuel shut-off valve, built into the hollow bolt on the main fuel 
filter, came apart on the road.  Fuel was pouring out, pressurized.  I noticed 
the fuel gauge was dropping rather quickly, then noticed the blue cloud rolling 
out the back.

Pulled off at the next gas station, patched as best I could, made it another 30 
miles before the patch gave out, patched again and made it home.

Some knuckle head, not the present owner, removed the retaining pin which would 
have prevented this.  New valve, $129, is on the way from Q.

Hood pad was pretty well fuel soaked, so I've scraped that off, ordered one of 
those as well.  Washing the car and the engine compartment now.

Probably lost about fifteen gallons of diesel.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
'73 Balboa 20
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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: ASCO cable ?

[John Reames]

Actually, the output of the 5150 or 5110 is rs485 and labelled.  The input side 
that connects to the ATS control or the "SCI" port on the power manager is not 
485; it is definitely TTL with the exception of the power pair (1=GND, 2=+24VDC)

It's not straight through (tried that!) either.  I believe the +5V pins are 
likely outputs and the others are likely inputs; I'm guessing a transmit, a 
receive, a device present, a presence detect, and a pair of flow control. 

The port is capable of ASCObus I, ASCObus II and MODbus, but runs at TTL levels.

I suspect there is less than $12 of parts (at Radio Shack prices!) in the 
cable, but they figure that no one can either terminate a solder pot DE9 
(usually incorrectly called a DB9!) or make crimps for a proper DE9.

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On Dec 11, 2012, at 17:02, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> John,
> 
> I just did a quick Google on this and found that the cable is a standard 
> RS-485 protocol.
> 
> Does that help?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:43 PM, John Reames wrote:
> 
>> A while back there was a brief mention of ATS's (auto transfer switches).
>> 
>> I'm wondering if anyone might have access to either an ASCO 4000,7000 or 
>> "power manager" that uses the DE9 to connect to a "connectivity" module... 
>> Or at least to the cable that goes between 'em.
>> 
>> If so, could you pop open the DE9 hoods and note the wiring? (Or take a 
>> picture)
>> 
>> 8" DE9M->DE9F is better than $100. (And its not made by AudioQuest!)
>> 
>> I've been able to guess that its to carry power on pins 1 and 2, and TTL 
>> everywhere else. (And they aren't straight through)
>> 
>> It looks like there are 3 lines held high (+5V), and 3 "floated" low (it 
>> starts at about 0.1V and runs down to 0.01V), with one that's an additional 
>> (signal) ground.
>> 
>> There aren't that many possibilities, so I will put a scope on the +5V lines 
>>  at startup and see if any of them look like they might be data lines...
>> 
>> Unfortunately, the devices are multilayer boards that are heavy on SMD's; 
>> one of them has no externally visible signal traces...
>> 
>> Oh, the boards are heavily conformally coated which makes it hard to read 
>> the chips... But maybe I need better light and a magnifying glass for my old 
>> eyes!
>> 
>> Anyhow, thanks in advance!
>> 
>> (Btw ASCO won't provide a wiring diagram)
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: ASCO cable ?

[John Reames]

No hurry at all. 
Thanks much!

(I'll check the part numbers for the cables when I get home)

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On Dec 11, 2012, at 16:54, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> John,
> 
> I can contact some of my buddies in the business and see if they have the 
> pinout or know of an alternative.
> 
> When we had diagnostic stuff like this we rarely bought the OEM bits - they 
> charged us an arm and a leg for them, too, and figure the $$ involved when 
> you have a fleet of 35-40 trucks, each that needs one...
> 
> Are you in a hurry?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:43 PM, John Reames wrote:
> 
>> A while back there was a brief mention of ATS's (auto transfer switches).
>> 
>> I'm wondering if anyone might have access to either an ASCO 4000,7000 or 
>> "power manager" that uses the DE9 to connect to a "connectivity" module... 
>> Or at least to the cable that goes between 'em.
>> 
>> If so, could you pop open the DE9 hoods and note the wiring? (Or take a 
>> picture)
>> 
>> 8" DE9M->DE9F is better than $100. (And its not made by AudioQuest!)
>> 
>> I've been able to guess that its to carry power on pins 1 and 2, and TTL 
>> everywhere else. (And they aren't straight through)
>> 
>> It looks like there are 3 lines held high (+5V), and 3 "floated" low (it 
>> starts at about 0.1V and runs down to 0.01V), with one that's an additional 
>> (signal) ground.
>> 
>> There aren't that many possibilities, so I will put a scope on the +5V lines 
>>  at startup and see if any of them look like they might be data lines...
>> 
>> Unfortunately, the devices are multilayer boards that are heavy on SMD's; 
>> one of them has no externally visible signal traces...
>> 
>> Oh, the boards are heavily conformally coated which makes it hard to read 
>> the chips... But maybe I need better light and a magnifying glass for my old 
>> eyes!
>> 
>> Anyhow, thanks in advance!
>> 
>> (Btw ASCO won't provide a wiring diagram)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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Re: [MBZ] Suzuki

[Dan Penoff]

I can understand why.  I got stuck with one of their subcompacts as a rental 
once, and it was a real POS, not to mention the "A" pillar blocked my vision.

Dan


On Dec 11, 2012, at 5:01 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

>> Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?..
>> 
> Not to mention that Suzuki is belly up in the US.
> 
> RLE
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Suzuki

[Alex Chamberlain]

Maybe the Suzuki dealer also sells Fords.

Maybe the people with the problematic Ford in the original post had a
mechanic they trusted who happened to work at the Suzuki dealer.

Maybe the Ford dealership doesn't sell Suzukis, but is owned by someone
named Suzuki (a very common Japanese family name, almost like "Smith" or
"Jones").

Maybe they had a coupon.

C'mon people, have some imagination ;)

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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: ASCO cable ?

[Dan Penoff]

John,

I just did a quick Google on this and found that the cable is a standard RS-485 
protocol.

Does that help?

Dan


On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:43 PM, John Reames wrote:

> A while back there was a brief mention of ATS's (auto transfer switches).
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone might have access to either an ASCO 4000,7000 or 
> "power manager" that uses the DE9 to connect to a "connectivity" module... Or 
> at least to the cable that goes between 'em.
> 
> If so, could you pop open the DE9 hoods and note the wiring? (Or take a 
> picture)
> 
> 8" DE9M->DE9F is better than $100. (And its not made by AudioQuest!)
> 
> I've been able to guess that its to carry power on pins 1 and 2, and TTL 
> everywhere else. (And they aren't straight through)
> 
> It looks like there are 3 lines held high (+5V), and 3 "floated" low (it 
> starts at about 0.1V and runs down to 0.01V), with one that's an additional 
> (signal) ground.
> 
> There aren't that many possibilities, so I will put a scope on the +5V lines  
> at startup and see if any of them look like they might be data lines...
> 
> Unfortunately, the devices are multilayer boards that are heavy on SMD's; one 
> of them has no externally visible signal traces...
> 
> Oh, the boards are heavily conformally coated which makes it hard to read the 
> chips... But maybe I need better light and a magnifying glass for my old eyes!
> 
> Anyhow, thanks in advance!
> 
> (Btw ASCO won't provide a wiring diagram)
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Suzuki

[RELNGSON]

> Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?..
> 
Not to mention that Suzuki is belly up in the US.

RLE
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: ASCO cable ?

[Dan Penoff]

John,

I can contact some of my buddies in the business and see if they have the 
pinout or know of an alternative.

When we had diagnostic stuff like this we rarely bought the OEM bits - they 
charged us an arm and a leg for them, too, and figure the $$ involved when you 
have a fleet of 35-40 trucks, each that needs one...

Are you in a hurry?

Dan


On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:43 PM, John Reames wrote:

> A while back there was a brief mention of ATS's (auto transfer switches).
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone might have access to either an ASCO 4000,7000 or 
> "power manager" that uses the DE9 to connect to a "connectivity" module... Or 
> at least to the cable that goes between 'em.
> 
> If so, could you pop open the DE9 hoods and note the wiring? (Or take a 
> picture)
> 
> 8" DE9M->DE9F is better than $100. (And its not made by AudioQuest!)
> 
> I've been able to guess that its to carry power on pins 1 and 2, and TTL 
> everywhere else. (And they aren't straight through)
> 
> It looks like there are 3 lines held high (+5V), and 3 "floated" low (it 
> starts at about 0.1V and runs down to 0.01V), with one that's an additional 
> (signal) ground.
> 
> There aren't that many possibilities, so I will put a scope on the +5V lines  
> at startup and see if any of them look like they might be data lines...
> 
> Unfortunately, the devices are multilayer boards that are heavy on SMD's; one 
> of them has no externally visible signal traces...
> 
> Oh, the boards are heavily conformally coated which makes it hard to read the 
> chips... But maybe I need better light and a magnifying glass for my old eyes!
> 
> Anyhow, thanks in advance!
> 
> (Btw ASCO won't provide a wiring diagram)
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> jream...@verizon.net
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[MBZ] WAY OT: ASCO cable ?

[John Reames]

A while back there was a brief mention of ATS's (auto transfer switches).

I'm wondering if anyone might have access to either an ASCO 4000,7000 or "power 
manager" that uses the DE9 to connect to a "connectivity" module... Or at least 
to the cable that goes between 'em.

If so, could you pop open the DE9 hoods and note the wiring? (Or take a picture)

8" DE9M->DE9F is better than $100. (And its not made by AudioQuest!)

I've been able to guess that its to carry power on pins 1 and 2, and TTL 
everywhere else. (And they aren't straight through)

It looks like there are 3 lines held high (+5V), and 3 "floated" low (it starts 
at about 0.1V and runs down to 0.01V), with one that's an additional (signal) 
ground.

There aren't that many possibilities, so I will put a scope on the +5V lines  
at startup and see if any of them look like they might be data lines...

Unfortunately, the devices are multilayer boards that are heavy on SMD's; one 
of them has no externally visible signal traces...

Oh, the boards are heavily conformally coated which makes it hard to read the 
chips... But maybe I need better light and a magnifying glass for my old eyes!

Anyhow, thanks in advance!

(Btw ASCO won't provide a wiring diagram)



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Re: [MBZ] 1995 124 wagon, showroom condition, available from MB Classic Center

[Dan Penoff]

"Kilometric Performance"

Dan

On Dec 11, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Craig  wrote:

> In case any of you are interested in a 124 wagon:
> 
> http://newsroom.mercedes-benz-classic.com/en/vehicles/?cid=290
> 
> 
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[MBZ] 1995 124 wagon, showroom condition, available from MB Classic Center

[Craig]

In case any of you are interested in a 124 wagon:

http://newsroom.mercedes-benz-classic.com/en/vehicles/?cid=290


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[Donald Snook]

Rusty wrote: "Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?"

I wondered that too.  I have no idea.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[Michael Canfield]

They took it to Suzuki?  Why would they do that?  Suzuki is shutting down
all of their dealerships in the USA.

Sounds like someone was ignoring the light(well, the check engine light has
been on all along, it means nothing) on the drive home and destroyed the
engine.

Mike
On Dec 11, 2012 10:33 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> 'My thought, too.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: " Rusty Cullens" 
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem
>
>
>  Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?
>>
>> Rusty Cullens
>> buyMBparts, Inc.
>> 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
>> Suite 260
>> Atlanta, GA 30360
>>
>> 800-741-5252
>> 770-452-7320
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes 
>> [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**okiebenz.com]
>> On Behalf Of Donald
>> Snook
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:24 AM
>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem
>>
>> I have a friend who sent me the following email this morning:
>>
>> "Okay, we have a pretty big problem and I need your help getting someone
>> to
>> help.  Forrest has a '99 Ford pickup and we took it to Suzuki last week
>> because it was leaking fluid.  They told us it was the heater coil that
>> needed to be replaced.  We had to pay $1,200.00!!?!?!?!?  to get it fixed.
>> They finished it Friday and Saturday morning we went to pick it up.  Mark
>> and Forrest drove it home and it started shaking and then died.  They were
>> able to get it in front of our house.  We had it towed in AGAIN to Suzuki
>> and they called Mark today and said that they checked the check engine
>> light
>> and it said it had a blown gasket and the motor is locked up.  More or
>> less
>> it needs a new motor  BTW, the check engine light was on the first
>> time
>> we took it in.  We believe that it was misdiagnosed.  Mark has not talked
>> to
>> them since this morning and the truck is still there and we're not sure
>> what
>> to do."
>>
>> To me it sounds like maybe they did the heater core and failed to fill it
>> back up with coolant or they filled it and it had lots of air in it and it
>> wasn't burped.  But, that would mean they drove it while it was
>> overheating.
>> Any thoughts?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[Randy Bennell]

On 11/12/2012 9:23 AM, Donald Snook wrote:

I have a friend who sent me the following email this morning:

"Okay, we have a pretty big problem and I need your help getting someone to help.  
Forrest has a '99 Ford pickup and we took it to Suzuki last week because it was leaking 
fluid.  They told us it was the heater coil that needed to be replaced.  We had to pay 
$1,200.00!!?!?!?!?  to get it fixed.  They finished it Friday and Saturday morning we 
went to pick it up.  Mark and Forrest drove it home and it started shaking and then died. 
 They were able to get it in front of our house.  We had it towed in AGAIN to Suzuki and 
they called Mark today and said that they checked the check engine light and it said it 
had a blown gasket and the motor is locked up.  More or less it needs a new motor  
BTW, the check engine light was on the first time we took it in.  We believe that it was 
misdiagnosed.  Mark has not talked to them since this morning and the truck is still 
there and we're not sure what to do."

To me it sounds like maybe they did the heater core and failed to fill it back 
up with coolant or they filled it and it had lots of air in it and it wasn't 
burped.  But, that would mean they drove it while it was overheating.  Any 
thoughts?

Donald H. Snook
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Or, did they mis-diagnose altogether? Was it the heater core that was 
leaking to begin with or something else? Was it a head gasket issue from 
the outset? If the motor is locked up, one might think it ingested fluid 
and hydrolocked. The check engine light would not come on for a leaking 
heater core but if fluid was getting into a cylinder and causing a 
mis-fire the computer would report a bad plug.
I think I would be inclined to get it out of there immediately and have 
someone else have a look at it.


Then find a used engine and drop it in. Unless the truck is in wonderful 
shape a 99 probably does not justify a new engine.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] How a Man's Man house should look

[Rich Thomas]

I like that transmission sink.

--R

On 12/10/12 10:34 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
It might take a while for the listmom to approve these pictures, but 
they are interesting.

















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Re: [MBZ] 300E Belt, part deux

[Randy Bennell]

Sounds like it ought not to be a problem.
We had a Ford that ingested water due to a major rain storm a number of 
years ago.
My son called me from a local McDonalds to tell me the car was blowing 
pink guck like a strawberry milkshake out of the filler tube etc.


We drove it to a shop close by and had them change the filter and fluid. 
No more problems and it never caused any long term harm.


Randy

On 10/12/2012 5:14 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

He noted smoke coming from under the hood and no problems moving forward at 
that time.  He immediately pulled over and killed the engine, so I would be 
surprised if any damage was done.  It still pumped a couple of ounces of fluid 
out when I had him start and run it (without moving it) while we were checking 
it out.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Dan


On Dec 10, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


On 10/12/2012 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

That is truly a simple approach.

In this case it's not my dime, and the lines from the Q are barely $30 shipped 
for the pair, so I would rather do it right and have them around for another 
200k.

In fact, as we were leaving the stranded car and I got off the phone with 
Rusty, I turned and told the youngster that he was living right - he was 
probably going to pay more for the towing to get the car home than the parts to 
repair it would cost...

Thanks!

Dan




So long as the transmission is not damaged by lack of oil.

I know many years ago, my father helped out a fellow with a 240D. A tranny line 
cracked and was leaking. My father replaced or repaired the line in some manner 
and the owner was able to drive it home from his cottage on Lake of the Woods 
to Columbus Ohio.
However, he ended up replacing the transmission. I don't know what he did to it 
or how much he drove it before my father worked on it.
So, keep your fingers crossed that this did not cause any other problems that 
will show up later.

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Tim C]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Dan Penoff wrote:
>
>> None of the promotion codes will work for Mobil1 ATF.
>
>
Mitch is correct; I meant Advance, and bummer on the new policy.  My M1 ATF
purchase was also a year-ish ago so I guess they got wise to it. :(

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Dan Penoff]

Hard telling, but in the page for the Mobil1 ATF it says very clearly
that no discounts or coupons are valid on it.

I suspect that Mobil doesn't want them selling it at a discount...

All of the other ATF I look at in the FLAPS are very vague about their
specs. This troubles me.

I may end up subsidizing the Mobil1 ATF purchase if I can't find
something suitable.

This is a starving college kid, so I want to try and keep his costs as
minimal as possible.

Dan

On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Dan Penoff wrote:
>> None of the promotion codes will work for Mobil1 ATF.
>
> Oh, well, they did a couple of years ago.
> I got a five gallon pail of DexIII for under $30 in 2010 or so.
>
> Must have included ATF in the 'no coupon oil' category since then.
>
> I just checked. Put a group 49 gold battery in my cart for $138, added coupon 
> A124 and it dropped to $98. Added a qt of M1 ATF for $10, and it didn't 
> prorate the coupon across the ATF and the battery, left it all on the 
> battery. The good news is that having the ATF in my cart didn't negate the 
> coupon, it just kept the coupon from applying to the ATF. And it says on the 
> item description page not eligible for coupons.
> I wonder if they did that last winter when they did it to the universal fit 
> hitch I was shopping for. One week it was $129.99-$40, the next week it was 
> "no coupons allowed".
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

None of the promotion codes will work for Mobil1 ATF.


Oh, well, they did a couple of years ago.
I got a five gallon pail of DexIII for under $30 in 2010 or so.

Must have included ATF in the 'no coupon oil' category since then.

I just checked. Put a group 49 gold battery in my cart for $138, added coupon 
A124 and it dropped to $98. Added a qt of M1 ATF for $10, and it didn't prorate 
the coupon across the ATF and the battery, left it all on the battery. The good 
news is that having the ATF in my cart didn't negate the coupon, it just kept 
the coupon from applying to the ATF. And it says on the item description page 
not eligible for coupons.
I wonder if they did that last winter when they did it to the universal fit 
hitch I was shopping for. One week it was $129.99-$40, the next week it was "no 
coupons allowed".

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[Rich Thomas]

Yeah, I thought there might be a clue in there somewhere.

--R

On 12/11/12 10:26 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:

Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?

Rusty Cullens
buyMBparts, Inc.
6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
Suite 260
Atlanta, GA 30360
  
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770-452-7320
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald
Snook
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:24 AM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

I have a friend who sent me the following email this morning:

"Okay, we have a pretty big problem and I need your help getting someone to
help.  Forrest has a '99 Ford pickup and we took it to Suzuki last week
because it was leaking fluid.  They told us it was the heater coil that
needed to be replaced.  We had to pay $1,200.00!!?!?!?!?  to get it fixed.
They finished it Friday and Saturday morning we went to pick it up.  Mark
and Forrest drove it home and it started shaking and then died.  They were
able to get it in front of our house.  We had it towed in AGAIN to Suzuki
and they called Mark today and said that they checked the check engine light
and it said it had a blown gasket and the motor is locked up.  More or less
it needs a new motor  BTW, the check engine light was on the first time
we took it in.  We believe that it was misdiagnosed.  Mark has not talked to
them since this morning and the truck is still there and we're not sure what
to do."

To me it sounds like maybe they did the heater core and failed to fill it
back up with coolant or they filled it and it had lots of air in it and it
wasn't burped.  But, that would mean they drove it while it was overheating.
Any thoughts?

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[WILTON]

'My thought, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: " Rusty Cullens" 

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem



Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?

Rusty Cullens
buyMBparts, Inc.
6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
Suite 260
Atlanta, GA 30360

800-741-5252
770-452-7320
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald
Snook
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:24 AM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

I have a friend who sent me the following email this morning:

"Okay, we have a pretty big problem and I need your help getting someone 
to

help.  Forrest has a '99 Ford pickup and we took it to Suzuki last week
because it was leaking fluid.  They told us it was the heater coil that
needed to be replaced.  We had to pay $1,200.00!!?!?!?!?  to get it fixed.
They finished it Friday and Saturday morning we went to pick it up.  Mark
and Forrest drove it home and it started shaking and then died.  They were
able to get it in front of our house.  We had it towed in AGAIN to Suzuki
and they called Mark today and said that they checked the check engine 
light
and it said it had a blown gasket and the motor is locked up.  More or 
less
it needs a new motor  BTW, the check engine light was on the first 
time
we took it in.  We believe that it was misdiagnosed.  Mark has not talked 
to
them since this morning and the truck is still there and we're not sure 
what

to do."

To me it sounds like maybe they did the heater core and failed to fill it
back up with coolant or they filled it and it had lots of air in it and it
wasn't burped.  But, that would mean they drove it while it was 
overheating.

Any thoughts?

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Craig]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:31:27 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski 
wrote:

> Dan, I recommend using Febi 08971, which is a Dex IID.  You can find it
> by searching 000 989 92 03 in various online catalogs.

Jaime,

Is that your recommendation for a '95 E320, too?

How suitable is Mobil1 ATF?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Is this Suzuki of Wichita?  If so, they are going out of business 
so they probably do not care.

On 12/11/2012 9:26 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:

Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?

Rusty Cullens
buyMBparts, Inc.
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Suite 260
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770-452-7320
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald
Snook
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:24 AM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

I have a friend who sent me the following email this morning:

"Okay, we have a pretty big problem and I need your help getting someone to
help.  Forrest has a '99 Ford pickup and we took it to Suzuki last week
because it was leaking fluid.  They told us it was the heater coil that
needed to be replaced.  We had to pay $1,200.00!!?!?!?!?  to get it fixed.
They finished it Friday and Saturday morning we went to pick it up.  Mark
and Forrest drove it home and it started shaking and then died.  They were
able to get it in front of our house.  We had it towed in AGAIN to Suzuki
and they called Mark today and said that they checked the check engine light
and it said it had a blown gasket and the motor is locked up.  More or less
it needs a new motor  BTW, the check engine light was on the first time
we took it in.  We believe that it was misdiagnosed.  Mark has not talked to
them since this morning and the truck is still there and we're not sure what
to do."

To me it sounds like maybe they did the heater core and failed to fill it
back up with coolant or they filled it and it had lots of air in it and it
wasn't burped.  But, that would mean they drove it while it was overheating.
Any thoughts?

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[Rusty Cullens]

Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?

Rusty Cullens
buyMBparts, Inc.
6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
Suite 260
Atlanta, GA 30360
 
800-741-5252
770-452-7320
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald
Snook
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:24 AM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

I have a friend who sent me the following email this morning:

"Okay, we have a pretty big problem and I need your help getting someone to
help.  Forrest has a '99 Ford pickup and we took it to Suzuki last week
because it was leaking fluid.  They told us it was the heater coil that
needed to be replaced.  We had to pay $1,200.00!!?!?!?!?  to get it fixed.
They finished it Friday and Saturday morning we went to pick it up.  Mark
and Forrest drove it home and it started shaking and then died.  They were
able to get it in front of our house.  We had it towed in AGAIN to Suzuki
and they called Mark today and said that they checked the check engine light
and it said it had a blown gasket and the motor is locked up.  More or less
it needs a new motor  BTW, the check engine light was on the first time
we took it in.  We believe that it was misdiagnosed.  Mark has not talked to
them since this morning and the truck is still there and we're not sure what
to do."

To me it sounds like maybe they did the heater core and failed to fill it
back up with coolant or they filled it and it had lots of air in it and it
wasn't burped.  But, that would mean they drove it while it was overheating.
Any thoughts?

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Boa tramp

[WILTON]

'Did pretty good with the brains, too - a good exercise, anyway.

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Boa tramp



>http://www.wimp.com/boatramp/

 Someone has more money than brains

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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Dan Penoff]

None of the promotion codes will work for Mobil1 ATF.

Bummer.

Dan

On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Dan Penoff wrote:
>> What Autozone coupon? If I can get Mobil1 for a reasonable price I would use 
>> it.
> 
> I don't know of any for Autozone.
> Advance Auto has coupons that aren't valid on motor oil but work for ATF.
> Have to buy online and enter the promo code on the shopping cart page.
> Then you just go to the store where they have your stuff picked off the shelf 
> and ready to go.
> The best ones will give you $20 off on a $50 order, or $35 off on a $85 
> order, or $40 off on a $100 order. Brings that $9 a quart M1 ATF into the 
> almost reasonable range.
> 
> http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1240050/
> http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1242449/
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[MBZ] OT Ford Truck problem

[Donald Snook]

I have a friend who sent me the following email this morning:

"Okay, we have a pretty big problem and I need your help getting someone to 
help.  Forrest has a '99 Ford pickup and we took it to Suzuki last week because 
it was leaking fluid.  They told us it was the heater coil that needed to be 
replaced.  We had to pay $1,200.00!!?!?!?!?  to get it fixed.  They finished it 
Friday and Saturday morning we went to pick it up.  Mark and Forrest drove it 
home and it started shaking and then died.  They were able to get it in front 
of our house.  We had it towed in AGAIN to Suzuki and they called Mark today 
and said that they checked the check engine light and it said it had a blown 
gasket and the motor is locked up.  More or less it needs a new motor  BTW, 
the check engine light was on the first time we took it in.  We believe that it 
was misdiagnosed.  Mark has not talked to them since this morning and the truck 
is still there and we're not sure what to do."

To me it sounds like maybe they did the heater core and failed to fill it back 
up with coolant or they filled it and it had lots of air in it and it wasn't 
burped.  But, that would mean they drove it while it was overheating.  Any 
thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

what $40 autozone coupon?

On 12/11/2012 8:37 AM, Tim C wrote:

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:


So Tim, are you saying that people are having problems with Dexron-III as
opposed to II?


In the thread I read there were some people saying the III would slip where
the prior fill did not.  It's hard to say whether that's because it was
clean fluid and the transmission was worn, or because of the fluid itself.

Sounds like IID is the right stuff, if you can get it, but they were saying
the dealer was using III so the answer is probably that either will work
but the IID is more forgiving.

You can get a lot of M1 ATF with the $40 Autozone coupon, by the way, if
this car is a keeper...

Best,
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

What Autozone coupon? If I can get Mobil1 for a reasonable price I would use it.


I don't know of any for Autozone.
Advance Auto has coupons that aren't valid on motor oil but work for ATF.
Have to buy online and enter the promo code on the shopping cart page.
Then you just go to the store where they have your stuff picked off the shelf 
and ready to go.
The best ones will give you $20 off on a $50 order, or $35 off on a $85 order, 
or $40 off on a $100 order. Brings that $9 a quart M1 ATF into the almost 
reasonable range.


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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Dan Penoff]

Thanks, Jaime.

Time is of the essence in this situation, so I am pretty well stuck with using 
something I can get from FLAPs.

If there is a good coupon I can use for Mobil1 I'll go that route...

Dan

On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> Dan, I recommend using Febi 08971, which is a Dex IID.  You can find it by
> searching 000 989 92 03 in various online catalogs.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Dexron-II is the correct stuff for a 300E (1992) slushbox, right?
>> 
>> I don't have access to my service stuff right now, and all of my previous
>> cars I have put Mobil1 in, so it's never been an issue in the past.
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Dan Penoff]

What Autozone coupon? If I can get Mobil1 for a reasonable price I would use it.

Thanks!

Dan

On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Tim C  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
>> So Tim, are you saying that people are having problems with Dexron-III as
>> opposed to II?
>
> In the thread I read there were some people saying the III would slip where
> the prior fill did not.  It's hard to say whether that's because it was
> clean fluid and the transmission was worn, or because of the fluid itself.
>
> Sounds like IID is the right stuff, if you can get it, but they were saying
> the dealer was using III so the answer is probably that either will work
> but the IID is more forgiving.
>
> You can get a lot of M1 ATF with the $40 Autozone coupon, by the way, if
> this car is a keeper...
>
> Best,
> Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Failed Opacity Test

[Bob Rentfro]

See I have a project scheduled for each day off on this old thing.
Yesterday it was door seals. Next day off it's going to be valve
adjustment. The day after that is probably going to be shocks. Etcetera
etcetera.
It's just kind of annoying. I've taken cars for opacity tests over the last
30 years and none of them have failed. This 1 wasn't even close to failing
as far as the amount of smoking this coming out the tailpipe. It just bugs
me when people can't do their job correctly.

Bob R
On Dec 11, 2012 6:57 AM, "Max Dillon"  wrote:

> Sounds like a good plan.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300
> '87 300TD
> '73 Balboa 20
>
> Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>
> >That's the trouble when you buy the $800 beater...you know none of these
> >things until you check. It is not smoking at all. I talked yesterday to my
> >indy and he said that lately he's heard stories from other older diesel
> >owners having issues with failing opacity. They are finding out it's
> >because the knowledge of how to use them correctly and keep them up is
> >almost nonexistent among the kids that work in the emissions stations.
> >I'm going to drive like a wild man this week, run a can of diesel purge
> >through, get a tank of biodiesel and then try a know good emissions
> station
> >downtown where indy says they know what they are doing.
> >
> >Bob R
> >On Dec 10, 2012 9:22 PM, "Max Dillon"  wrote:
> >
> >> Any injector with more than 100k miles on it is suspect, but the Italian
> >> tune-up is certainly worth a shot.  Diesel Purge might also be worth a
> try.
> >>
> >> Valves are adjusted, right?  Timing chain stretch less than five
> degrees?
> >>  Nobody has monkeyed with the IP timing?
> >>
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '95 E300
> >> '87 300TD
> >> '73 Balboa 20
> >>
> >> Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> >>
> >> >Gosh I hope not.
> >> >
> >> >Bob R
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Max Dillon  >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm thinking new injectors might be in order.
> >> >>
> >> >> Max Dillon
> >> >> Charleston SC
> >> >> '95 E300
> >> >> '87 300TD
> >> >> '73 Balboa 20
> >> >>
> >> >> Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >So this is the first time ever any diesel vehicle I have ever had
> has
> >> >> >failed the opacity test. It certainly didn't look very smokey to
> me. So
> >> >> now
> >> >> >I suppose my question is what in the world do I do to pass this
> opacity
> >> >> >test? It didn't look very bad at all. I have a fresh air cleaner I
> had
> >> >> take
> >> >> >it out on the freeway for a little bit for a little drive before I
> came
> >> >> in.
> >> >> >I'm not sure what to do because I've never had to deal with this
> >> before.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Rich Thomas]

Should be a convenience store

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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Tim C]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> So Tim, are you saying that people are having problems with Dexron-III as
> opposed to II?
>

In the thread I read there were some people saying the III would slip where
the prior fill did not.  It's hard to say whether that's because it was
clean fluid and the transmission was worn, or because of the fluid itself.

Sounds like IID is the right stuff, if you can get it, but they were saying
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but the IID is more forgiving.

You can get a lot of M1 ATF with the $40 Autozone coupon, by the way, if
this car is a keeper...

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Dan, I recommend using Febi 08971, which is a Dex IID.  You can find it by
searching 000 989 92 03 in various online catalogs.

Jaime



On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Dexron-II is the correct stuff for a 300E (1992) slushbox, right?
>
> I don't have access to my service stuff right now, and all of my previous
> cars I have put Mobil1 in, so it's never been an issue in the past.
>
> TIA,
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Dan Penoff]

So Tim, are you saying that people are having problems with Dexron-III as 
opposed to II?

I don't want to have trouble with this since its getting effectively a complete 
fill since it pumped everything out.

Dan


On Dec 11, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Tim C  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Dexron-II is the correct stuff for a 300E (1992) slushbox, right?
> 
> MBWorld seems convinced that it should be IID or IIE, and that MBUSA will
> sell you III.  So take that for what it's worth.
> 
> Looking at the symptoms of folks who have used III I wonder if the shop
> replaced the transmission fluid in my 300D with the wrong stuff last time,
> and that's why I was having all that slip trouble.  Guess it's time to DIY
> it again, it was just meant to be a temporary change to get the mud out
> anyway.
> 
> Best,
> -Tim
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[MBZ] Subject: ATF

[RDeafBoy]

Just had Trans change with filter kit from Rusty...My MB guy used Dextron  
III  on my 83 240d.
 
Bob
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Re: [MBZ] Failed Opacity Test

[Max Dillon]

Sounds like a good plan.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
'73 Balboa 20

Bob Rentfro  wrote:

>That's the trouble when you buy the $800 beater...you know none of these
>things until you check. It is not smoking at all. I talked yesterday to my
>indy and he said that lately he's heard stories from other older diesel
>owners having issues with failing opacity. They are finding out it's
>because the knowledge of how to use them correctly and keep them up is
>almost nonexistent among the kids that work in the emissions stations.
>I'm going to drive like a wild man this week, run a can of diesel purge
>through, get a tank of biodiesel and then try a know good emissions station
>downtown where indy says they know what they are doing.
>
>Bob R
>On Dec 10, 2012 9:22 PM, "Max Dillon"  wrote:
>
>> Any injector with more than 100k miles on it is suspect, but the Italian
>> tune-up is certainly worth a shot.  Diesel Purge might also be worth a try.
>>
>> Valves are adjusted, right?  Timing chain stretch less than five degrees?
>>  Nobody has monkeyed with the IP timing?
>>
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '95 E300
>> '87 300TD
>> '73 Balboa 20
>>
>> Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>>
>> >Gosh I hope not.
>> >
>> >Bob R
>> >
>> >On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Max Dillon > >wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm thinking new injectors might be in order.
>> >>
>> >> Max Dillon
>> >> Charleston SC
>> >> '95 E300
>> >> '87 300TD
>> >> '73 Balboa 20
>> >>
>> >> Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >So this is the first time ever any diesel vehicle I have ever had has
>> >> >failed the opacity test. It certainly didn't look very smokey to me. So
>> >> now
>> >> >I suppose my question is what in the world do I do to pass this opacity
>> >> >test? It didn't look very bad at all. I have a fresh air cleaner I had
>> >> take
>> >> >it out on the freeway for a little bit for a little drive before I came
>> >> in.
>> >> >I'm not sure what to do because I've never had to deal with this
>> before.
>> >> >
>> >> >Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] ATF

[Tim C]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Dexron-II is the correct stuff for a 300E (1992) slushbox, right?
>

MBWorld seems convinced that it should be IID or IIE, and that MBUSA will
sell you III.  So take that for what it's worth.

Looking at the symptoms of folks who have used III I wonder if the shop
replaced the transmission fluid in my 300D with the wrong stuff last time,
and that's why I was having all that slip trouble.  Guess it's time to DIY
it again, it was just meant to be a temporary change to get the mud out
anyway.

Best,
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Re: [MBZ] Failed Opacity Test

[Bob Rentfro]

That's the trouble when you buy the $800 beater...you know none of these
things until you check. It is not smoking at all. I talked yesterday to my
indy and he said that lately he's heard stories from other older diesel
owners having issues with failing opacity. They are finding out it's
because the knowledge of how to use them correctly and keep them up is
almost nonexistent among the kids that work in the emissions stations.
I'm going to drive like a wild man this week, run a can of diesel purge
through, get a tank of biodiesel and then try a know good emissions station
downtown where indy says they know what they are doing.

Bob R
On Dec 10, 2012 9:22 PM, "Max Dillon"  wrote:

> Any injector with more than 100k miles on it is suspect, but the Italian
> tune-up is certainly worth a shot.  Diesel Purge might also be worth a try.
>
> Valves are adjusted, right?  Timing chain stretch less than five degrees?
>  Nobody has monkeyed with the IP timing?
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300
> '87 300TD
> '73 Balboa 20
>
> Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>
> >Gosh I hope not.
> >
> >Bob R
> >
> >On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Max Dillon  >wrote:
> >
> >> I'm thinking new injectors might be in order.
> >>
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '95 E300
> >> '87 300TD
> >> '73 Balboa 20
> >>
> >> Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> >>
> >> >So this is the first time ever any diesel vehicle I have ever had has
> >> >failed the opacity test. It certainly didn't look very smokey to me. So
> >> now
> >> >I suppose my question is what in the world do I do to pass this opacity
> >> >test? It didn't look very bad at all. I have a fresh air cleaner I had
> >> take
> >> >it out on the freeway for a little bit for a little drive before I came
> >> in.
> >> >I'm not sure what to do because I've never had to deal with this
> before.
> >> >
> >> >Bob R
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[MBZ] ATF

[Dan Penoff]

Dexron-II is the correct stuff for a 300E (1992) slushbox, right?

I don't have access to my service stuff right now, and all of my previous cars 
I have put Mobil1 in, so it's never been an issue in the past.

TIA,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL vibration

[Mitch Haley]

I do have a Benz diesel question.  My 87 300sdl has become quite loud at idle, 
not an exhaust noise, more of the engine vibrations being transferred to the 
body it appears to be running smoothly in spite of the tach not working, could 
this be a failed motor mount? The engine does not lift when I engage forward or 
reverse gears.  Ideas anyone?  Thanks again Ron Courcy



Could be.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 82, Issue 3 Rich Thomas re: mini split a/c

[Ronald Courcy]

>Please Forgive my less than prompt response,  If you are interested in mini 
>split a/c or anything else Johnstone carries I have an account with them and 
>would be willing to purchase whatever you want .  I am in Rhode Island but I 
>am also in the process of setting up an account with johnstone in florida  
>(Port Richey)  at this time. Thanks Ron Courcy

I do have a Benz diesel question.  My 87 300sdl has become quite loud at idle, 
not an exhaust noise, more of the engine vibrations being transferred to the 
body it appears to be running smoothly in spite of the tach not working, could 
this be a failed motor mount? The engine does not lift when I engage forward or 
reverse gears.  Ideas anyone?  Thanks again Ron Courcy

  
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