Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
Shave the son of a bitch! He signed a contract with our government that says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service. Make him abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted! Mike On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tonight's big repair
I've got a Rockwell (aka Delta), and ended up putting a new top wheel tilt support in, a beefed up spring, and new tyres. (Urethane). It already had a riser block and Carter guides (which got new bearings). I also shimmed out the upper wheel to bring it into alignment. The lower wheel was warped, but a dial gauge to measure runout and a large C clamp to judiciously apply pressure to tweak it seems to have largely cured things. (Next up, something in the 2hp range and some browning cast iron bushing type sheaves to bring the blade speed up a bit...) I can't remember the place I ordered parts from, but he is apparently well known, despite not having a significant web presence–he will mail you a black and white print catalog... Y'all know about OWWM (old woodworking machines), right? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:09, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got me a new Buffalo 14 bandsaw for $65 last weekend. Naturally, it didn't work... I think this is going to be a great saw once I get it re-manufactured. My cheapie bandsaw seemed OK, but using it I found that the blade guides were where they really cheaped out. I bought a used Delta to replace it later, and gifted the original away. (Cruddy, but still _way_ better than no bandsaw at all.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: bandsaws (was Re: OT: Tonight's big repair)
I just remembered– Iturra design, and someone has a 2010 catalog up on Dropbox at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82359640/Iturra_Design_catalogue_2010.pdf -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:09, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got me a new Buffalo 14 bandsaw for $65 last weekend. Naturally, it didn't work... I think this is going to be a great saw once I get it re-manufactured. My cheapie bandsaw seemed OK, but using it I found that the blade guides were where they really cheaped out. I bought a used Delta to replace it later, and gifted the original away. (Cruddy, but still _way_ better than no bandsaw at all.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MTBE in Washington?
relng...@aol.com wrote: There is only one documented use of MTBE as a fuel oxygenate in Washington ; however, it is likely that the chemical has been used in gasoline for other purposes in the state. Only one documented use. And what was that? This report, a glowing example of a government grant if I've ever seen one, does not say MTBE was in Washington's gasoline at it's hundreds, perhaps thousands of retail gas stations used by the public. Rog, are you just glossing over however, it is likely that the chemical has been used in gasoline for other purposes in the state.? Also, there's all the MBTE contaminated sites in King County, where did the MTBE come from if not motor fuel? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tonight's big repair
OWWM is a wonderful place. I had to unsub after I moved, as I have no room for such luxuries. I bought and sold a number of items on there. Great place, lots of good people and information. Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:22 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've got a Rockwell (aka Delta), and ended up putting a new top wheel tilt support in, a beefed up spring, and new tyres. (Urethane). It already had a riser block and Carter guides (which got new bearings). I also shimmed out the upper wheel to bring it into alignment. The lower wheel was warped, but a dial gauge to measure runout and a large C clamp to judiciously apply pressure to tweak it seems to have largely cured things. (Next up, something in the 2hp range and some browning cast iron bushing type sheaves to bring the blade speed up a bit...) I can't remember the place I ordered parts from, but he is apparently well known, despite not having a significant web presence–he will mail you a black and white print catalog... Y'all know about OWWM (old woodworking machines), right? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:09, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got me a new Buffalo 14 bandsaw for $65 last weekend. Naturally, it didn't work... I think this is going to be a great saw once I get it re-manufactured. My cheapie bandsaw seemed OK, but using it I found that the blade guides were where they really cheaped out. I bought a used Delta to replace it later, and gifted the original away. (Cruddy, but still _way_ better than no bandsaw at all.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tonight's big repair
There is nothing more satisfying than a repair like this. That's what I always enjoyed about resurrecting old MBs, as there were often a lot of little fiddly bits that were easy to return to service in this fashion. Dan On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The garbage disposal has been getting temperamental lately, not wanting to turn off, so tonight I took a look online to see if there were any words of wisdom on the internets. Turns out theres a switch on the side of the unit which is actuated by a rod which is in turn pushed by the drainplug. Its apparently quite common for the rod to get gummed up and stick the unit on. Insinkerator says to buy a new disposal. Instead I removed one screw and one circlip, put some marvel mystery oil on the rod, worked it back and forth a few times and reassembled. The worst part was getting the circlip on. Total cost: zip Total time: 15 minutes. Wish they were all that easy. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Diesels Are Finally Coming to the U.S. (If You’ve Got the Cash)
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:21:48 -0800 Kevin Kraly kevinpadd...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin in LaPorte, CO Are you vacationing there, or did you move there? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
Why do we allow this vermin to dictate to us? Is there any doubt he is guilty? We are wasting an awful of of money on this trial it seems. I know there's no alternative and everyone gets their day in court but can't we treat someone who is probably on camera shooting people like a suspect? If he was wearing a beard when he was shooting people he should not be allowed to change his appearance for the trial IMO. Doesn't matter what I think but that's my .02 cents... LarryT 91 300D On 12/21/2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] asheville trip
Don't forget to get the small gasket between the thermostat housing and the head 'cause you will have to take that off to do the job. I also heard recently that Mercedes is once again selling that short piece of hose as a part. When I did the job all they had was a 3 meter long piece that would have to be ordered. Manfred Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Only problem seems to be a coolant leak at the thermostat and that short big hose ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
Then hang 'im. Well, after a fair trial, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood Shave the son of a bitch! He signed a contract with our government that says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service. Make him abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted! Mike On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
There really should be a simple answer to this. Does a Jewish soldier get to wear his Kippah to court if he does something wrong? I doubt it. Mike On Dec 21, 2012 9:52 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Then hang 'im. Well, after a fair trial, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood Shave the son of a bitch! He signed a contract with our government that says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service. Make him abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted! Mike On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.military.com/**topics/nidal-hasanhttp://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tonight's big repair
And 'Nother ATTABOY!Those kinds of fixes are great! 'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Tonight's big repair ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Flashers, etc.
The Frankenheap (200D 115 Euro) has _always_ had trouble with its turn signals 'sticking'. Like the proverbial cat at the door, I wanna come in, I wanna go out, they would either flash or not at their whim. Usually grabbing he flasher knob (red-dot pull knob on console) and cycling it a bunch would bias it towards working, but you never could tell. I've opened it and cleaned the contacts several times over the years, and resoldered the PCB. It helped, but pretty much at least once a week the lights would stick on anyway. I've done a _bunch_ of flashing by hand using the stalk, which is annoying but at least is possible. Anyway, since the last time I operated I'd gotten some Caig Deoxit, which I had used to miraculous effect elsewhere, but I was out of it. (I'd bought it at Radio Shack, it was a 2-pack of tiny spray cans, one the usual 5% product and one for Gold contacts.) The Gold product only has a tiny fraction of the ability to clean and protect non-gold contacts that the regular has, but I used it anyway as it was all that was left. I did not want to purchase that particular package again, as too small and 50% something I didn't want anyway, so I mail-ordered generous supplies of the good stuff: a large spray can of the 5% solution, a needle drip applicator of the 100%, and a spray can of fader cleaner, for use on scratchy radios, dimmers, etc. _Anyway_, the flasher is inside the knob/switch, and is oddly constructed: the knob is attached to the PCB and pulls it back and forth. There is a row of eight or so copper contact patches at one edge, and a bunch of springy contact fingers that ride on them, and which are connected to the external pins of the switch. The spring contacts look normal, but the copper patches are just raw copper and oxidize quickly. No amount of cleaning or burnishing would last for all that long. I'd used regular contact cleaner the first time. It lasted a little while. Then again, but with burnishing of the copper and protective grease. It worked, for awhile. This time I shot it with the Gold spray. It is now working perfectly again, probably better than it ever has for me. If it should go out again I am now armed with a lifetime supply of the good stuff. (Needle applicator, for switches that are opened up. The spray is for quick jobs, and which I will no doubt exhaust long before the bottle.) The Caig stuff works, the dome light in the Frankenheap is now reliable, from both doors and the overhead switch, and has been for years. (I think the driver's door switch might need another shot, as once in awhile now you might need to jiggle it to get the light on.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blocked out tags
perhaps, but that's not what he said, and why i asked for clarification. nonetheless, overly available access to personal information is one reason why i have the family cars registered to a Post Box; nobody needs to know where my wife lives, or where they *aren't*. (it's not unheard of for a team to watch a family go into a theater or someplace where they're going to be for a while then break into a car to read the registration and know the address where nobody is going to be for a few hours,...) cheers! e On 20/Dec/12 20:20, WILTON wrote: Or did he mean anyBODY? Wilton - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blocked out tags how would they determine you're a citizen? cheers! e On 20/Dec/12 17:25, Max Dillon wrote: In South Carolina, given a license plate number, any citizen can go online to the state tax system, find out name address. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I see a lot of folks block out the license plates in the pics when selling a car. Why? Who cares if someone knows your tag #? What would someone do with it? Don't they realize they drive around showing it to strangers everywhere they go? Seems paranoid to me. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bandsaws (was Re: OT: Tonight's big repair)
Does the link work for anyone? I get a message saying the file is damaged and cannot be opened. Randy On 21/12/2012 4:26 AM, John Reames wrote: I just remembered– Iturra design, and someone has a 2010 catalog up on Dropbox at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82359640/Iturra_Design_catalogue_2010.pdf -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:09, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got me a new Buffalo 14 bandsaw for $65 last weekend. Naturally, it didn't work... I think this is going to be a great saw once I get it re-manufactured. My cheapie bandsaw seemed OK, but using it I found that the blade guides were where they really cheaped out. I bought a used Delta to replace it later, and gifted the original away. (Cruddy, but still _way_ better than no bandsaw at all.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blocked out tags
(it's not unheard of for a team to watch a family go into a theater or someplace where they're going to be for a while then break into a car to read the registration and know the address where nobody is going to be for a few hours,...) Oddly, this does not seem to happen with my (t)rusty 1972 200D! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] asheville trip
Hmmm. Now why would you say that:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Best model Mercedes ever made is the 123 turbo wagon. A total brick. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 3:54 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Hard to beat a 123 - even a 30-year-old one. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] asheville trip Folks I drove my 82 300td to asheville, nc from athens, ga, yesterday. I dragged a trailer and hauled a 1000 lb letterpress down the mountain back to athens. I saw temps down inth the 30's up there and the daytime highs were nice at about 70f. Only problem seems to be a coolant leak at the thermostat and that short big hose i have one and must change it thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] asheville trip
Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Only problem seems to be a coolant leak at the thermostat and that short big hose MG wrote: When I did the job all they had was a 3 meter long piece that would have to be ordered. That's another reason to order your parts from Rusty. He cuts it and sells a piece only the size you need. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bandsaws (was Re: OT: Tonight's big repair)
Worked for me, but slow slow slow. I reposted to https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4pf64n6Qzdpb1BkbkRHWnVrN0U Where it will probably also be slow - it is a big file! -Tim On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Does the link work for anyone? I get a message saying the file is damaged and cannot be opened. Randy On 21/12/2012 4:26 AM, John Reames wrote: I just remembered– Iturra design, and someone has a 2010 catalog up on Dropbox at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/**82359640/Iturra_Design_** catalogue_2010.pdfhttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/82359640/Iturra_Design_catalogue_2010.pdf -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:09, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got me a new Buffalo 14 bandsaw for $65 last weekend. Naturally, it didn't work... I think this is going to be a great saw once I get it re-manufactured. My cheapie bandsaw seemed OK, but using it I found that the blade guides were where they really cheaped out. I bought a used Delta to replace it later, and gifted the original away. (Cruddy, but still _way_ better than no bandsaw at all.) -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bandsaws (was Re: OT: Tonight's big repair)
That worked and was quick. No problems. Thank you. Randy On 21/12/2012 2:05 PM, Tim C wrote: Worked for me, but slow slow slow. I reposted to https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4pf64n6Qzdpb1BkbkRHWnVrN0U Where it will probably also be slow - it is a big file! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice plane
I wonder what it has in terms of defense mechanisms? One might think that there are folks out there who would love to shoot it out of the sky. That sort of statement tends to annoy people. Randy On 20/12/2012 5:20 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: A Saudi prince is about to take delivery of the world's largest and most opulent private jet dubbed the 'Flying Palace', which will boast an incredible array of luxuries including its own concert hall and Turkish spa. The Airbus 380, dubbed the Super Jumbo, has a 10,000 sq ft interior making it the world's largest airliner and has been designed to carry around 600 passengers 8,000 miles in quiet comfort at speeds of up to 647mph. But billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud clearly has his own ideas about what luxury air travel is all about and ordered his new transport three years ago. The Prince will soon be delivered a 'green' plane - just the basic shell - which will then be customised by a British-based firm who insist it will be the most luxurious aircraft in existence. The five suites which form the owner's private quarters have king- size beds, entertainment systems and a prayer room featuring computer generated prayer mats which always face Mecca. A lift drops to the tarmac and a red carpet unfurls, with downlights to 'give the impression of turning up at the Oscars', according to Design Q's co-founder Gary Doy. Business class: The plane's boardroom features a table which functions as a giant touchscreen and (right) a white spiral staircase winds around the lift which travels three floors and also drops onto the tarmac to act as the prince's private entrance The new jet, which has already been labelled the Flying Palace, will boast: A dazzling main spiral staircase as well as a lift which will travel the plane's three floors and lower onto the tarmac to act as the Prince's private entrance A Concert Hall featuring a grand piano, accoustic panelling and seating for an audience of ten. Big name entertainers are expected to perform. A Hamam steam room lined with marble only two millimetres thick to keep the weight down as well as a sensory area for treatments A magnificent Wellbeing room for guests featuring a giant screen on the floor allowing them to see what they are flying over A full size boardroom featuring a large perspex table which doubles as a huge touchscreen A total of five luxury suites as well as a prayer room with electronic mats which automatically turn to face mecca Ample parking space for a Rolls Royce (or Mercedes Benz) Giant of the skies: The Airbus A380 is the world's largest airliner and has been designed to carry over 600 passengers. The basic cost is £135 million but Prince Alwaleed's plane is expected to top £300million Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal is the region's wealthiest man The belly of the A380 has been turned into a relaxation zone, including a Turkish bath lined with marble only two millimetres thick to keep the weight down. Next door is a wellbeing room, with the floor and walls turned into a giant screen showing the ground down below. Guests can stand on a 'magic carpet' and watch the journey, a scented breeze blowing into the room. If work really is unavoidable, the boardroom is on hand with iTouch screens and live share prices projected on to the tables. For conference calls, a business partner on the ground can be virtually projected on to the table to 'join' a meeting. There are around 20 'sleepers' - the equivalent of First Class seats - for extra guests. According to the designers, the style is elegant curves and swirls of Arabic writing. The prince, who is known as the Warren Buffet of the Middle East, is the richest man in a region awash with oil money. His new plaything will be an upgrade from his current private jet - a customised Boeing 747. He also owns an Airbus 321. His yacht, the Kingdom5KR was the biggest in the world when it was launched and featured in the James Bond film Never Say Never Again. According to Airbus's Middle East President Habib Fekih the prince can expect delivery of the jet in the new year however it is not clear how long the customisation will take. As the largest stakeholder in News Corp outside the Murdoch Family, Prince Alalweed was interviewed on the deck of his yacht in Cannes by the BBC following the phone tapping scandal. Looking relaxed in a pair of shorts and sunglasses he famously declared that News Corp's then chief executive Rebekah Brooks 'has to go', which many believe effectively ended Brooks's career at the company. A spokesman for Design Q, the Worcestershire-based company who will be carrying out the customisation of the plane, told the Independent the plane would be 'not only the most luxurious aircraft in existence, but also reflects the cultural values and status of its owner.'
Re: [MBZ] Nice plane
With the kind of money this guy has, it's likely equipped with stealth of come kind. I worked a contract flying some of his relatives for a year based out of Saudi. I'm glad to see the new airplane has electronic self aiming prayer rugs. We used to have to alter course to fly east for all prayer times, then return to course. As the token infidel in charge, the muslim copilot would make sure we were properly on course then leave me to join the others in the back for the ritual head bang. Flight control would sometimes go nearly postal with the course deviation. What fun. Pay was good. Little else. Grant... On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I wonder what it has in terms of defense mechanisms? One might think that there are folks out there who would love to shoot it out of the sky. That sort of statement tends to annoy people. Randy On 20/12/2012 5:20 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: A Saudi prince is about to take delivery of the world's largest and most opulent private jet dubbed the 'Flying Palace', which will boast an incredible array of luxuries including its own concert hall and Turkish spa. The Airbus 380, dubbed the Super Jumbo, has a 10,000 sq ft interior making it the world's largest airliner and has been designed to carry around 600 passengers 8,000 miles in quiet comfort at speeds of up to 647mph. But billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud clearly has his own ideas about what luxury air travel is all about and ordered his new transport three years ago. The Prince will soon be delivered a 'green' plane - just the basic shell - which will then be customised by a British-based firm who insist it will be the most luxurious aircraft in existence. The five suites which form the owner's private quarters have king- size beds, entertainment systems and a prayer room featuring computer generated prayer mats which always face Mecca. A lift drops to the tarmac and a red carpet unfurls, with downlights to 'give the impression of turning up at the Oscars', according to Design Q's co-founder Gary Doy. Business class: The plane's boardroom features a table which functions as a giant touchscreen and (right) a white spiral staircase winds around the lift which travels three floors and also drops onto the tarmac to act as the prince's private entrance The new jet, which has already been labelled the Flying Palace, will boast: A dazzling main spiral staircase as well as a lift which will travel the plane's three floors and lower onto the tarmac to act as the Prince's private entrance A Concert Hall featuring a grand piano, accoustic panelling and seating for an audience of ten. Big name entertainers are expected to perform. A Hamam steam room lined with marble only two millimetres thick to keep the weight down as well as a sensory area for treatments A magnificent Wellbeing room for guests featuring a giant screen on the floor allowing them to see what they are flying over A full size boardroom featuring a large perspex table which doubles as a huge touchscreen A total of five luxury suites as well as a prayer room with electronic mats which automatically turn to face mecca Ample parking space for a Rolls Royce (or Mercedes Benz) Giant of the skies: The Airbus A380 is the world's largest airliner and has been designed to carry over 600 passengers. The basic cost is £135 million but Prince Alwaleed's plane is expected to top £300million Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal is the region's wealthiest man The belly of the A380 has been turned into a relaxation zone, including a Turkish bath lined with marble only two millimetres thick to keep the weight down. Next door is a wellbeing room, with the floor and walls turned into a giant screen showing the ground down below. Guests can stand on a 'magic carpet' and watch the journey, a scented breeze blowing into the room. If work really is unavoidable, the boardroom is on hand with iTouch screens and live share prices projected on to the tables. For conference calls, a business partner on the ground can be virtually projected on to the table to 'join' a meeting. There are around 20 'sleepers' - the equivalent of First Class seats - for extra guests. According to the designers, the style is elegant curves and swirls of Arabic writing. The prince, who is known as the Warren Buffet of the Middle East, is the richest man in a region awash with oil money. His new plaything will be an upgrade from his current private jet - a customised Boeing 747. He also owns an Airbus 321. His yacht, the Kingdom5KR was the biggest in the world when it was launched and featured in the James Bond film Never Say Never Again. According to Airbus's Middle East President Habib Fekih the prince can expect delivery of the jet in the new year however it is not clear how long the customisation will take. As the largest stakeholder in News Corp outside the
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
I shared a $75/month huge 2 BR apt. walking distance from the Minneapolis campus of the U of M back in grad school. Life was really cheap there. Next year I had my own basement apt. near the St. Paul campus for $90/mo IIRC. The landlord purchased my 1959 Volvo for $325 cash when I left decided to join the Peace Corps. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Not there, it is never closed. --R On 12/20/12 11:29 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:26:48 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: There were Vietnamese guys at MIT who lived in the library, had a bedroll and a few clothes, washed up in the gym, kept their stuff in a corner at a desk/carrel (is that what those things are?) and basically went to class and studied the rest of the time. That was their life, but they were clearly dedicated and lived cheepcheep (food only). Now that's a wonder. Any place I have been closed the library at night and threw everyone out. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:13:24 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I shared a $75/month huge 2 BR apt. walking distance from the Minneapolis campus of the U of M back in grad school. Life was really cheap there. Next year I had my own basement apt. near the St. Paul campus for $90/mo IIRC. The landlord purchased my 1959 Volvo for $325 cash when I left decided to join the Peace Corps. That must have been a few years ago Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, this time, Daddy (nor Grndad) doesn't have the bucks. That's why he may stay in Chapel Hill, but we'll see what develops. Wow, that's a commute even by Curt's standards! Wouldn't want to sign up for too many 8am classes! Harvard would let him meet and study with other smart people. I don't think I got a bad education at NC State, but I didn't meet a lot of exceptionally brilliant folks. On the other hand, there are much more cost-effective ways to meet smart people. :) Depending on his degree it may or may not be a big difference. Technology seems less driven by the institution, but I know that managers often give preference to their alma mater when hiring upstream. Remember that the Ivy League has access to a lot of money for its students. If they want him to come, they can make sure he has food and shelter, even though he doesn't necessarily have the resources to pay for it on his own. Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you. I would expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
Well, of course, I meant stay on in Chapel Hill for grad school. ;) I got a pretty good education at NC State, too - twice. My thoughts, too, re. provisions for 'im. That's why I've been telling 'im for years, Prepare yourself well - day-by-day, every day. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, this time, Daddy (nor Grndad) doesn't have the bucks. That's why he may stay in Chapel Hill, but we'll see what develops. Wow, that's a commute even by Curt's standards! Wouldn't want to sign up for too many 8am classes! Harvard would let him meet and study with other smart people. I don't think I got a bad education at NC State, but I didn't meet a lot of exceptionally brilliant folks. On the other hand, there are much more cost-effective ways to meet smart people. :) Depending on his degree it may or may not be a big difference. Technology seems less driven by the institution, but I know that managers often give preference to their alma mater when hiring upstream. Remember that the Ivy League has access to a lot of money for its students. If they want him to come, they can make sure he has food and shelter, even though he doesn't necessarily have the resources to pay for it on his own. Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you. I would expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning lights - the continuing saga
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats my plan for next week. I don't know anybody right around here does those tests, I'll need to call around and check. It actually doesn't seem like its all that difficult to remove. A rebuilt looks like right on $100 with a lifetime warranty. Both AZ and Advance have active coupons, as I recall, if you are slumming. Check fatwallet. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
On Dec 21, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. Agreed. I only wish that personnel stationed at Fort Hood would've been permitted to carry sidearms. We would not be having this discussion if that were the case. How much irrefutable proof has to be provided before it becomes obvious that gun free zones only work to provide target rich environments for those not inclined to obey laws. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Subject: Re: Ft Hood
Hang the muslim then shave him donate his hair to the Taliban [singed] . Hussein [Obama the Nuslim] is trying his hardest to prevent a fellow muslim death.It's his duty...DUH !! Oh well gotta go rub some pork fat on the local mosque's doorknob with a note indicating thus a compass showing that east is really west so that they lay their rugs the wrong way ..PIG SQUEAL ! For all us Christians out there have a MERRY MERRY MERCEDES CHRISTMAS ] [ Mercedes content].[This year is the first time Hussein has a Christmas concert -DUH !! ] BOB [ sorry ,had to squeal it , it must be Dec. 21,2012. I must be under some Mayan influence] 1983 240D 197,000+ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Ft Hood
That was wildly inappropriate. For a minute I thought I was on Banned. Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:01 PM, rdeaf...@aol.com wrote: Hang the muslim then shave him donate his hair to the Taliban [singed] . Hussein [Obama the Nuslim] is trying his hardest to prevent a fellow muslim death.It's his duty...DUH !! Oh well gotta go rub some pork fat on the local mosque's doorknob with a note indicating thus a compass showing that east is really west so that they lay their rugs the wrong way ..PIG SQUEAL ! For all us Christians out there have a MERRY MERRY MERCEDES CHRISTMAS ] [ Mercedes content].[This year is the first time Hussein has a Christmas concert -DUH !! ] BOB [ sorry ,had to squeal it , it must be Dec. 21,2012. I must be under some Mayan influence] 1983 240D 197,000+ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
At any other time in history, this POS would have been given a summary courts martial and shot the following morning by duly appointed [by the commander in charge] firing squad. We are at war [review the facts, if you can't make that decision]. Wartime rules dictate such attacks are dealt with promptly and with death, the method and timing at the discretion of the commanding officer at capture of the offending criminal. Had this happened, for example, in WW2, just how long would his beard be? Answer, as long as it would grow before the sunrise firing squad the day following the attack. We are now some years into this trial phase and stupidly arguing over if he can make a statement to his fellow muslim terrorist by forcing the issue of a beard.. so when he is put to death he can be treated as a shehad [died while furthering the cause of allah] and thus go to muslim heaven.. thus rewarded. Question is: Why do we play these stupid games. Coat his worthless ass with pig fat and shoot him with bullets dipped in pig blood to make an example. Then, since he is a terrorist and we should fight to win, run him through a wood chipper and feed the mush to pigs [as an example to all islamic terrorist] so his LAST act on earth is to pass through a pigs ass. Send a message such acts will not be tolerated, fight to win , finally. Pissed, gonna stay that way, over this POS. Grant... --- Who has an opinion and doesn't hold it back at times--- On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she needed/wanted to do. It is way overrated. Most undergrad classes are taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes. The main thing they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in the world. If you are half-smart you can get a good education/training anywhere, pretty much depends on what you put into it. I have a fair number of friends who went there, they are all pretty smart, but never felt like they got a really great deal from the experience. These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough. --R On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote: Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you. I would expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
Is this not a Court Marshall? Is he not a soldier first just like any other soldier? He signed a contract that says he will follow certain rules of appearance. Will he appear in court in uniform? If so then he should prepare himself as he swore to do when wearing that uniform. Mike On Dec 21, 2012 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
I like your opinion. Mike On Dec 21, 2012 5:15 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: At any other time in history, this POS would have been given a summary courts martial and shot the following morning by duly appointed [by the commander in charge] firing squad. We are at war [review the facts, if you can't make that decision]. Wartime rules dictate such attacks are dealt with promptly and with death, the method and timing at the discretion of the commanding officer at capture of the offending criminal. Had this happened, for example, in WW2, just how long would his beard be? Answer, as long as it would grow before the sunrise firing squad the day following the attack. We are now some years into this trial phase and stupidly arguing over if he can make a statement to his fellow muslim terrorist by forcing the issue of a beard.. so when he is put to death he can be treated as a shehad [died while furthering the cause of allah] and thus go to muslim heaven.. thus rewarded. Question is: Why do we play these stupid games. Coat his worthless ass with pig fat and shoot him with bullets dipped in pig blood to make an example. Then, since he is a terrorist and we should fight to win, run him through a wood chipper and feed the mush to pigs [as an example to all islamic terrorist] so his LAST act on earth is to pass through a pigs ass. Send a message such acts will not be tolerated, fight to win , finally. Pissed, gonna stay that way, over this POS. Grant... --- Who has an opinion and doesn't hold it back at times--- On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
I've always said, too, You can get a good education most anywhere; 'depends on what you put into it. I worked my a$$ off at NC State, especially the second time. I've never felt stupid or disadvantaged, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she needed/wanted to do. It is way overrated. Most undergrad classes are taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes. The main thing they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in the world. If you are half-smart you can get a good education/training anywhere, pretty much depends on what you put into it. I have a fair number of friends who went there, they are all pretty smart, but never felt like they got a really great deal from the experience. These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough. --R On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote: Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you. I would expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Uh oh...
Running up 495 to Maine for the holidays and broke the lower hose clamp on my '78 240D. I noticed it when the temp was pegged. It still runs but heats back up. I've had the bleed plug out and can get water out of the hole. Going to let it cool for awhile and hope for the best. I've got the front end driven right up on the curb to help with bleeding... -Curt Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Subject: Re: Anybody there?
There were Vietnamese guys at MIT who lived in the library, had a bedroll and a few clothes, washed up in the gym, kept their stuff in a corner at a desk/carrel (is that what those things are?) and basically went to class and studied the rest of the time. That was their life, but they were clearly dedicated and lived cheepcheep (food only). When I was at Widener U. [Pa.] in 1968 for engineering at the age of 18 ,[1968-the Vietnam war] I was competing with the South Vietnamese schooling for engineering Forget the curve they created !! I ended up with a minor in engineering/major in business graduated in 3 1/2 years .Served me right cause I went into my grandfathers architectural metal business. I basically went into electrical engineering so that I could design better hearing aids for people like me who could only hear only 40% WITH a hearing aid [ I was born that way due to measles in the 50's ] The Vietnamese used to have Math parties on Fri Sat. among themselves when we normal college kids were at our respective wild fraternities filled with girls that we confiscated from other campuses [ Our slogan for Harcum College was Harcum, Parkum,F$%#um]...BTW Any Theta Chi's out there ?? [OX] Bob [Whose draft no. was 25 ] eventually got 4-F... but volunteered anyway but got rejected [My father was a diehard Navy guy]I guess if somebody asked me to cover him I would say What did you say ?...Well at least I triedI even offered to work in an office to serve my country but they refused me.. I lost a best friend there so my hearts out to all you guys who served in the serviceGod Bless You VETERANS !!! Bob .Enjoy your holidays !! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Anybody there?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:58:56 -0500 (EST) rdeaf...@aol.com wrote: I lost a best friend there so my hearts out to all you guys who served in the serviceGod Bless You VETERANS !!! Thank you. Bob .Enjoy your holidays !! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Diesels Are Finally Coming to the U.S. (If You’ve Got the Cash)
We moved to Colorado in October. I wish I could have brought a few of those cheap Portland area Mercedes Diesels with me to sell. Values are quite inflated up here since there aren't many running around. Kevin in LaPorte, CO ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Subject: Re: Ft Hood
Agreed. I only wish that personnel stationed at Fort Hood would've been permitted to carry sidearms. We would not be having this discussion if that were the case. How much irrefutable proof has to be provided before it becomes obvious that gun free zones only work to provide target rich environments for those not inclined to obey laws. Rick Did you guys know that the Colorado movie shooter picked the movie theater that had NO signs indicating No Firearms Allowed ... Seems like he did his homework, so does that make him insane ?? Since Colorado is a gun toting state most movie theaters have no firearms allowed signs, then what happened.???. HANG HIM [by his feet- slooo death] Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
Booogood luck. Bob R On Dec 21, 2012 3:58 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Running up 495 to Maine for the holidays and broke the lower hose clamp on my '78 240D. I noticed it when the temp was pegged. It still runs but heats back up. I've had the bleed plug out and can get water out of the hole. Going to let it cool for awhile and hope for the best. I've got the front end driven right up on the curb to help with bleeding... -Curt Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Merry Christmas Happy New Year
Since I'll be headin' north on Sunday for the holidays, Merry Christmas Happy New Year to all those on the list. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas Happy New Year
Merry Christmas Happy New Year to you too! -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MTBE
...Rog, are you just glossing over however, it is likely that the chemical has been used in gasoline for other purposes in the state.?.. Can you explain this sentence? I can't. What other purposes since they say there is only one documented use as motor fuel etc Would this mean that a million gallons was treated or one tank for test purposes. And when they say it is likely it looks like a WAG with no explanation. ...Also, there's all the MBTE contaminated sites in King County, where did the MTBE come from if not motor fuel?... Is this stuff used for purposes other than motor fuel additive? The report leaves out any proof of anything useful. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
...In South Carolina, given a license plate number, any citizen can go online to the state tax system, find out name address... You aren't approving this, I hope. So some assault weapon owner who thinks he was wronged by you in traffic can then come to your house and give it the Bushmaster treatment at 3AM. Freedom of information, do it yourself style. In this state, not even a cop can access that info from NCIC without cause as it should be. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muslim killer
..Then hang 'im. Well, after a fair trial, anyway... What do they with military personnel after the court marshal? Leavenworth? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Diesels Are Finally Coming to the U.S. (If You’ve Got the Cash)
That sounds like a business opportunity. Snag a semi, get a car carrier and load it up. Make a pair of trips each summer to deliver the ones you picked up for next to nothing over the winter. clay On Dec 21, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: We moved to Colorado in October. I wish I could have brought a few of those cheap Portland area Mercedes Diesels with me to sell. Values are quite inflated up here since there aren't many running around. Kevin in LaPorte, CO ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] defense
...I wonder what it has in terms of defense mechanisms?.. I would think it is at least equal to Air Force One which is not exactly a sitting duck. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Diesels Are Finally Coming to the U.S. (If You’ve Got the Cash)
On Dec 21, 2012 4:18 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: That sounds like a business opportunity. Snag a semi, get a car carrier and load it up. The guy who founded Lovecraft Biofuels got his start by doing exactly that (old-Benz-diesel arbitrage between SoCal and the PNW) back during the first wave of biodiesel enthusiasm. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
In the South where everyone has guns and they are no big deal you don't hear about things like this. No mass shootings, intruders and robbers are often met at gun point and held until the police come, or if they are stupid, they get shot. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...In South Carolina, given a license plate number, any citizen can go online to the state tax system, find out name address... You aren't approving this, I hope. So some assault weapon owner who thinks he was wronged by you in traffic can then come to your house and give it the Bushmaster treatment at 3AM. Freedom of information, do it yourself style. In this state, not even a cop can access that info from NCIC without cause as it should be. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muslim killer
Court Marshall/marshal/martial? If he/she is convicted via a court-martial and sentenced to extended prison time, I think it's usually Leavenworth for long-termers. A short sentence could be in a more local brig. I don't know, cause I've never had the opportunity. What about it, Max, aren't you our resident brig expert? Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muslim killer ..Then hang 'im. Well, after a fair trial, anyway... What do they with military personnel after the court marshal? Leavenworth? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
I live in NC; I'm part of everyone; 'don't have a gun. Wilton - Original Message - From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plates In the South where everyone has guns and they are no big deal you don't hear about things like this. No mass shootings, intruders and robbers are often met at gun point and held until the police come, or if they are stupid, they get shot. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...In South Carolina, given a license plate number, any citizen can go online to the state tax system, find out name address... You aren't approving this, I hope. So some assault weapon owner who thinks he was wronged by you in traffic can then come to your house and give it the Bushmaster treatment at 3AM. Freedom of information, do it yourself style. In this state, not even a cop can access that info from NCIC without cause as it should be. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another capital crime
TOP STORY: Marine Pleads Guilty in Urinating on Taliban Case A Marine general who decided to court-martial a Marine for urinating on the bodies of dead Taliban fighters and posing for pictures with them in Afghanistan will scale back the punishment announced Thursday by a military judge. More... http://tracking.military.com/cgi-bin/outlog.cgi?url=http://www.military.com/ daily-news/2012/12/21/marine-pleads-guilty-in-urination-case.html?ESRC=eb.nl code=121221DEBH01 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Justice
http://www.military.com/video/specialties-and-personnel/snipers/very-clear-fsa-sniper-attack-in-syria/2048305616001/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muslim killer
I have worked at Leavenworth as a government contractor. The prisons, that is, not just the base. No direct contact with the inmates, other than a couple of trustys. Having a point of reference using both state and Federal facilities, I can assure you that death would be considered a welcome alternative. Military prisons are very, very unpleasant places compared to state or Federally run facilities, in my opinion. The MJRCF is the nice military prison on site. The nasty military prison is the USDB, where the lifers are kept along with high-risk prisoners awaiting court martial. I was told that the USDB is only used for prisoners with lengthy sentences and commissioned officers along with prisoners sentenced to death. There is also a Federal facility nearby, but I had never been there other than passing by. The USDB is now a Supermax facility, I believe, similar to the one in Colorado which I was also privileged to work at, if you want to call it that. It was rather nasty when I was there, which was prior to the remodel that brought it up to Supermax standards. When I was there in the 90s it was relatively unchanged from the original design, which was done in the 1920s, I think. Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, WILTON wrote: Court Marshall/marshal/martial? If he/she is convicted via a court-martial and sentenced to extended prison time, I think it's usually Leavenworth for long-termers. A short sentence could be in a more local brig. I don't know, cause I've never had the opportunity. What about it, Max, aren't you our resident brig expert? Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muslim killer ..Then hang 'im. Well, after a fair trial, anyway... What do they with military personnel after the court marshal? Leavenworth? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
I don't either, but I have a real problem with the privacy aspect of this. Florida has very strict privacy laws regarding license plates and driver's licenses. IMHO, that's the way it should be. Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:38 PM, WILTON wrote: I live in NC; I'm part of everyone; 'don't have a gun. Wilton - Original Message - From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plates In the South where everyone has guns and they are no big deal you don't hear about things like this. No mass shootings, intruders and robbers are often met at gun point and held until the police come, or if they are stupid, they get shot. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...In South Carolina, given a license plate number, any citizen can go online to the state tax system, find out name address... You aren't approving this, I hope. So some assault weapon owner who thinks he was wronged by you in traffic can then come to your house and give it the Bushmaster treatment at 3AM. Freedom of information, do it yourself style. In this state, not even a cop can access that info from NCIC without cause as it should be. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] asheville trip
Absolutely. Unfortunately I was leaving the next day on a rather long trip and couldn't wait for that. OK so I should have done the inspection earlier but then I had just replaced the overflow tank that had a slight leak due to a crack the week before and didn't think there was another leak. It's what I get for thinking. Like you said before, do it all at one time and be done with it. Would have been really good if I had. Manfred From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com When I did the job all they had was a 3 meter long piece that would have to be ordered. That's another reason to order your parts from Rusty. He cuts it and sells a piece only the size you need. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
What Wilton said. I have some friends who will be in debt the rest of their lives because they are sending their daughter to Brown. Will she get a good education? Most likely. Will she develop connections that help her the rest of her life? Probably, but I doubt it, since neither she nor her family run in the rarified air that many of the other students and their families do. I think they told us this year's tuition with be something north of $60k. Is it really worth it? I don't think so. Dan B.S., Magna cum Laude, University of South Florida, Class of 2007 On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, WILTON wrote: I've always said, too, You can get a good education most anywhere; 'depends on what you put into it. I worked my a$$ off at NC State, especially the second time. I've never felt stupid or disadvantaged, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she needed/wanted to do. It is way overrated. Most undergrad classes are taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes. The main thing they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in the world. If you are half-smart you can get a good education/training anywhere, pretty much depends on what you put into it. I have a fair number of friends who went there, they are all pretty smart, but never felt like they got a really great deal from the experience. These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough. --R On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote: Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you. I would expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
I've had the best luck filling through the upper radiator hose, unclamped from the radiator. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:58 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Uh oh... Running up 495 to Maine for the holidays and broke the lower hose clamp on my '78 240D. I noticed it when the temp was pegged. It still runs but heats back up. I've had the bleed plug out and can get water out of the hole. Going to let it cool for awhile and hope for the best. I've got the front end driven right up on the curb to help with bleeding... -Curt Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hey, Curt. Luke and/or Fred could come to you if need be. Just ask. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] Uh oh... Running up 495 to Maine for the holidays and broke the lower hose clamp on my '78 240D. I noticed it when the temp was pegged. It still runs but heats back up. I've had the bleed plug out and can get water out of the hole. Going to let it cool for awhile and hope for the best. I've got the front end driven right up on the curb to help with bleeding... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
On Dec 21, 2012 7:38 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I live in NC; I'm part of everyone; 'don't have a gun. I thought, if you had fewer than three generations of provable local ancestry, you were technically just visiting... Best, Tim Also does not qualify ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
Cough! Cough! Gag, cough! 'Nearly had to go on 100% EMERGENCY oxygen (for those not familiar with it, it's 100% oxygen delivered under pressure) when I saw that $60k! Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? What Wilton said. I have some friends who will be in debt the rest of their lives because they are sending their daughter to Brown. Will she get a good education? Most likely. Will she develop connections that help her the rest of her life? Probably, but I doubt it, since neither she nor her family run in the rarified air that many of the other students and their families do. I think they told us this year's tuition with be something north of $60k. Is it really worth it? I don't think so. Dan B.S., Magna cum Laude, University of South Florida, Class of 2007 On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, WILTON wrote: I've always said, too, You can get a good education most anywhere; 'depends on what you put into it. I worked my a$$ off at NC State, especially the second time. I've never felt stupid or disadvantaged, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? My wife spent a year at Hahvahd and tolerated it for what she needed/wanted to do. It is way overrated. Most undergrad classes are taught by grad students, and even a lot of grad classes. The main thing they put forth is that a shingle from there gives you some kind of cred, and if you work it well, some contacts for moving forward in the world. If you are half-smart you can get a good education/training anywhere, pretty much depends on what you put into it. I have a fair number of friends who went there, they are all pretty smart, but never felt like they got a really great deal from the experience. These days Hahvahd seems more interested in finding minority gay transgendered physically-challenged Englishasasecondlanguage dumpster-living orphaned kids of color (Spanish surname extra points). They manage to do that too, surprisingly enough. --R On 12/21/12 4:35 PM, Tim C wrote: Rich recently made an insightful post to banned about the difference between MIT and his undergrad experience, I'll forward it to you. I would expect the difference between UNC and Ha!vard would be comparable. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
There's the Yankee definition of from and the Southern definition of from. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Dec 21, 2012 7:38 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I live in NC; I'm part of everyone; 'don't have a gun. I thought, if you had fewer than three generations of provable local ancestry, you were technically just visiting... Best, Tim Also does not qualify ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
Well, mine have been here (in NC) for at least 6 who I can name, so the visit is probably over. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plates On Dec 21, 2012 7:38 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I live in NC; I'm part of everyone; 'don't have a gun. I thought, if you had fewer than three generations of provable local ancestry, you were technically just visiting... Best, Tim Also does not qualify ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] asheville trip
I'm going to Asheville tomorrow, or somewhere up near there in the mountains. Not driving a Benz though. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
According to the words of the commander in chief this is workplace violence not an act of terror. As workplace violence it is treated differently and those murdered victims families are denied veterans benefits. As an act of war by a terrorist they would be KIA with full benefits. Yet another reason why I, as a veteran, took an oath to the Constitution not to the commander, to protect and defend from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. That oath can not be un-taken. How are your Mercedes all working? Grant... On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Is this not a Court Marshall? Is he not a soldier first just like any other soldier? He signed a contract that says he will follow certain rules of appearance. Will he appear in court in uniform? If so then he should prepare himself as he swore to do when wearing that uniform. Mike On Dec 21, 2012 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
On Dec 21, 2012 5:49 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: How are your Mercedes all working? The 124 is parked while I drive SWMBO's Subaru trying to diagnose an intermittent problem--symptoms are periodic jerky unintended deceleration, like fuel starvation or an ignition issue. It has been raining like crazy here (NW Oregon) and I'm worried that when I get back to the 300D I'll have to bail it out before I can drive it--it has a water leak into the front and rear floors on the right side that I can't figure out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaks
it [300D] has a water leak into the front and rear floors on the right side that I can't figure out. Hole rusted behind the battery? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MBs working
3 up 1 down, soon to gain its head again. It took a nice contribution to MomBUSA and the Q fund. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
You may have cooked the thermostat -- check to make sure you have circulation in the radiator. If the thermostat is stuck part way open, it can overheat. Ditto if the flap on the back that closes the engine recirculation passage is damaged (which sometimes happens when it's overheated). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
After much farting around we're back on the road. When it wouldn't burp the issue was not enough water. Once it was full up we were okay. I stopped at a Mobil station for more water they also had clamps so I replaced that. Stupid car wouldn't burp again. Finally we drove around shutting the car off as it got hot and it got better. Headed south and it was okay, turned around to head north and the temp went back up! Turned south again and it was fine. Seems to do better on the highway than around town. Is that a sign of a toasted head gasket? Anyway we're doing dinner at Cracker Barrel hopefully we'll be good for home, about 55 miles. Curt Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Running up 495 to Maine for the holidays and broke the lower hose clamp on my '78 240D. I noticed it when the temp was pegged. It still runs but heats back up. I've had the bleed plug out and can get water out of the hole. Going to let it cool for awhile and hope for the best. I've got the front end driven right up on the curb to help with bleeding... -Curt Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
Hey Alex, what shape are your door seals in? R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Date: Fri, December 21, 2012 9:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com On Dec 21, 2012 5:49 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: How are your Mercedes all working? It has been raining like crazy here (NW Oregon) and I'm worried that when I get back to the 300D I'll have to bail it out before I can drive it--it has a water leak into the front and rear floors on the right side that I can't figure out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: B.S., Magna cum Laude, University of South Florida, Class of 2007 Huh? If you are as mature as I think you are, you would've graduated college about 1982-83 Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
Thanks Fred, I'm glad to hear it. Any breakdown you can drive home from is not that bad a breakdown. So almost 7 hours after leaving home we're back, we got all the way to north Haverhill, about 150 miles round trip. Couple interesting things on the ride home, we're definitely down on power, hills we could accelerate up before we just held on, hills we held on before we slow down on now, hills we slowed down on before we had to shift into 3rd on. After dinner I thought we were home and dry but as we pulled onto the highway the temp gauge started climbing again, I cranked the heat in the car and we got some LOUD gurgling in the area of the heater core, when the gurgling stopped the temp gauge dropped, it did that exactly the same as we started south. Finally as we slowed down to come through town here I could here some valve clatter. You know that valve noise when you haven't changed the oil often enough? This car has been doing that first thing in the morning anyway but it went away as the car warmed up but just now it was doing it ever so slightly all the time. Anyway I put the block heater on for tonight so the engine won't freeze with mostly water in it, tomorrow I'll drain the water out. I don't intend to put any coolant in since it'll have to come out for the headgasket anyway. I'll have it towed to my Indy next week. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:13:44 -0800 (PST) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh... Message-ID: 1356138824.22533.yahoomail...@web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey, Curt. Luke and/or Fred could come to you if need be. Just ask. ? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaks
There was a video on Mercedessource about the owners of a W123 chasing their tail trying to find a leak. It ended up being in the area underneath the cowl vents where a seam had rusted through. Hopefully, it's just a hole behind the battery. Kevin in LaPorte, CO with no Mercedes Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
Curt. Not what you needed on a trip north. Though a little better than on the Maine Turnpike. Glad that you both made it home OK, don't worry about the valve noise, it'll buff right out. Ho Ho Ho! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh... Thanks Fred, I'm glad to hear it. Any breakdown you can drive home from is not that bad a breakdown. So almost 7 hours after leaving home we're back, we got all the way to north Haverhill, about 150 miles round trip. Couple interesting things on the ride home, we're definitely down on power, hills we could accelerate up before we just held on, hills we held on before we slow down on now, hills we slowed down on before we had to shift into 3rd on. After dinner I thought we were home and dry but as we pulled onto the highway the temp gauge started climbing again, I cranked the heat in the car and we got some LOUD gurgling in the area of the heater core, when the gurgling stopped the temp gauge dropped, it did that exactly the same as we started south. Finally as we slowed down to come through town here I could here some valve clatter. You know that valve noise when you haven't changed the oil often enough? This car has been doing that first thing in the morning anyway but it went away as the car warmed up but just now it was doing it ever so slightly all the time. Anyway I put the block heater on for tonight so the engine won't freeze with mostly water in it, tomorrow I'll drain the water out. I don't intend to put any coolant in since it'll have to come out for the headgasket anyway. I'll have it towed to my Indy next week. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
Ah! Well then I am corrected in my thinking. So, does your wife have a gun? :) Best, Tim On Dec 21, 2012 8:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, mine have been here (in NC) for at least 6 who I can name, so the visit is probably over. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plates On Dec 21, 2012 7:38 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I live in NC; I'm part of everyone; 'don't have a gun. I thought, if you had fewer than three generations of provable local ancestry, you were technically just visiting... Best, Tim Also does not qualify __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:12:32 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyway I put the block heater on for tonight so the engine won't freeze with mostly water in it, tomorrow I'll drain the water out. I would not trust the block heater to keep the radiator warm. I don't intend to put any coolant in since it'll have to come out for the headgasket anyway. I'll have it towed to my Indy next week. Are you assuming the lack of power is the head gasket? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
No, and she, indeed, wouldn't have one. Oh, 'just remembered, I DO have a Crossman pellet gun; used it few times maybe 8 or 10 years ago to shoot pigeons way up on the edge of the house gutters or up on the widow's/captain's walk rail. I'd come walking back in the house after dispatching a pigeon, and SWMBO'd say, How can you hit anything with your hands shaking like they do? My reply, Don't shake with the gun up against a tree on touching the brick wall. For what you're talking about, I doubt that a pellet gun counts. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plates Ah! Well then I am corrected in my thinking. So, does your wife have a gun? :) Best, Tim On Dec 21, 2012 8:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, mine have been here (in NC) for at least 6 who I can name, so the visit is probably over. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plates On Dec 21, 2012 7:38 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I live in NC; I'm part of everyone; 'don't have a gun. I thought, if you had fewer than three generations of provable local ancestry, you were technically just visiting... Best, Tim Also does not qualify __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
What's the temp going to tonight? Can't you drain rad now? Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh... On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:12:32 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyway I put the block heater on for tonight so the engine won't freeze with mostly water in it, tomorrow I'll drain the water out. I would not trust the block heater to keep the radiator warm. I don't intend to put any coolant in since it'll have to come out for the headgasket anyway. I'll have it towed to my Indy next week. Are you assuming the lack of power is the head gasket? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] asheville trip 300td leaking coolant
Folks ok i have the big hose . i think i bought 1/2 a meter for about $15 or so, it was cheap and i did not have the thermostat gasket, flaps is supposed to have me one tomorrow for $3 the leak looks to be where the thermostat goes in, so i'll likely just change that i replaced the big hose a few years ago with a good used on because i had it, not because i was being cheap mine had only failed because i had a leaking sls hose that dumped precious citroen fluid one the thermostat area thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice plane
Randy Bennell wrote: One might think that there are folks out there who would love to shoot it out of the sky. That sort of statement tends to annoy people. ** snip lots of text ** Err, _what_ sort of statement? You top posted above a long article with lots of statements in it. No clue as to which one you think will annoy someone to the point of murder. --Philip, feeling picky. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
On Dec 21, 2012 6:42 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: Hey Alex, what shape are your door seals in? Good question. Didn't occur to me to check 'em. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
