Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - Freeze 12

2013-05-10 Thread Gerry Archer


- Original Message - 
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com



dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote:


 Also I am looking for thoughts on
what I guess are the hydrocarbon
substitutes for R 134, such as
Envirosafe and Freeze 12.

.
Freeze 12 is not a hydrocarbon and is not recommended for R134 systems.
ES-12 will work, but why not just use 134?

Or did you mistype and you're asking about R-12 substitutes?  In that case
stay far away from Freeze 12 -- it's a mixture of R134 and various snake
oils and will kill an R12 system.

Alex

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Freeze 12 discontinued:

It appears, as of this writing, that we will not have any #6000 after we 
sell out of the 600 plus, that we currently show on hand.
This was caused by the EPA's ban on producing R142b which is a component of 
Freeze 12 refrigerant, that Tech Chemical can no longer acquire.


http://wmpartsplus.yuku.com/topic/946/Freeze-12-discontinued#.UYy6P0qWeAg



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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-10 Thread John Reames
Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty (boh).

Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't think natty 
boh tastes any better in Baltimore)

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On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Hendrik and fay wrote:
 These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites that 
 wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.
 This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz 
 http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
 
 The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't say 
 PBR.
 The rest are names I've never heard of.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - Freeze 12

2013-05-10 Thread Jon Agne
I will be replacing my compressor, drier, and expansion valve this weekend.  
The compressor died last fall, and it was probably the nasty PAG from the 134 
conversion that hastened the demise.

I've decided to use ES-12 this time.  I was trying to locate some of the 
Frigi-Quiet II compressor oil, but am beginning to believe it's mythical in 
existence.  Any recommendations for proper mineral oil, or should I just get 
what Car-Quest has on the shelf?

And yes,  I will flush the system thoroughly.

Jon

'85 300D


On May 10, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:

 
 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain 
 apchamberl...@gmail.com
 
 dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote:
 
 Also I am looking for thoughts on
 what I guess are the hydrocarbon
 substitutes for R 134, such as
 Envirosafe and Freeze 12.
 .
 Freeze 12 is not a hydrocarbon and is not recommended for R134 systems.
 ES-12 will work, but why not just use 134?
 
 Or did you mistype and you're asking about R-12 substitutes?  In that case
 stay far away from Freeze 12 -- it's a mixture of R134 and various snake
 oils and will kill an R12 system.
 
 Alex
 ___
 
 Freeze 12 discontinued:
 
 It appears, as of this writing, that we will not have any #6000 after we sell 
 out of the 600 plus, that we currently show on hand.
 This was caused by the EPA's ban on producing R142b which is a component of 
 Freeze 12 refrigerant, that Tech Chemical can no longer acquire.
 
 http://wmpartsplus.yuku.com/topic/946/Freeze-12-discontinued#.UYy6P0qWeAg
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - Freeze 12

2013-05-10 Thread Mitch Haley

Jon Agne wrote:

I will be replacing my compressor, drier, and expansion valve this weekend.  
The compressor died last fall, and it was probably the nasty PAG from the 134 
conversion that hastened the demise.

I've decided to use ES-12 this time.  I was trying to locate some of the 
Frigi-Quiet II compressor oil, but am beginning to believe it's mythical in 
existence.  Any recommendations for proper mineral oil, or should I just get 
what Car-Quest has on the shelf?



I just use whatever oil NAPA sells for R12 systems.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs, US idiots get bullets

2013-05-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Same idea on the spray bottle I use to ward off my omniverous cat during my
dinner time.

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would have thought in the US of A a 50 cal would drop down.

 Hendrik
 who may have started another GUN discussion

 On 10/05/13 11:27, Dieselhead wrote:

 This is actually very cool

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?**feature=player_embeddedv=**NoTMC-uxJoohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=NoTMC-uxJoo

 --R



 That water sign is way cool!  I am trying to think of other ways to use
 that.  It may not work without a big dark hole behind it though!




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Re: [MBZ] A few hours of work

2013-05-10 Thread Rich Thomas

That'll buff right out

--R

On 5/9/13 8:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Hendrik and fay wrote:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/mercedes-250-/271203372190?pt=AU_Carshash=item3f24fb0c9e_uhb=1 



He cut the roof off?
I'll bid $25 if he'll ship for free.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-10 Thread Michael Canfield
I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good after
a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of the
day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.

Mike
On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

 Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty (boh).

 Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't think
 natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)

 --
 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905

 On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

  Hendrik and fay wrote:
  These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites
 that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.
  This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz
 http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
 
  The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't
 say PBR.
  The rest are names I've never heard of.
 
  Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-10 Thread Rich Thomas
It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which 
was pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also 
can give you a wicked headache.


I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full 
getup is carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to 
tell him what a dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.


--(notPB)R


On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good after
a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of the
day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.

Mike
On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:


Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty (boh).

Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't think
natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)

--
John W Reames
jream...@verizon.net
Home: +14106646986
Mobile: +14437915905

On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


Hendrik and fay wrote:

These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites

that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.

This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz

http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/

The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't

say PBR.

The rest are names I've never heard of.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-10 Thread Craig
On Thu, 9 May 2013 19:59:16 -0500 Trent Fiorini buymbpa...@gmail.com
wrote:

 No bling...Quality parts, at the best price... Simple.

Add good service and you have an unbeatable formula for business success.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs

2013-05-10 Thread Tim Crone
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Storrow Drive in Boston has low bridges and big chains that hang down and
 hit the tops of trucks. Its great fun to go on Labor Day weekend and watch
 the parents hit the bridges with UHaul trucks after ignoring the massive
 clatter along the top of the truck. The first time I heard one I thought
 the truck had hit a wall it was so loud. I've heard that Uhaul won't insure
 trucks moving kids into school in Boston and require an extra damage waiver
 for people they know are doing that.


In Durham, our bridge has a web cam setup:
11foot8.com

For a funny local perspective:
http://www.bullcityrising.com/2009/10/gregson-st-bridge-gets-11foot8com-tribute-proves-moral-failings-of-local-blogger.html

I don't think there have been any fatalities, but one of those crashes
contained a Wired editor's furniture.

I drove through there recently; there are many signs, and warning lights.
 That said I drove the 7'0 van into the 6'8 muni garage recently, didn't
realize it until I heard the bar thwack on the roof, so I totally
understand not thinking about how high your vehicle is.  I pay close
attention in new places, but I've parked the MB in that garage so many
times I didn't even think about that I was driving the van... hopefully
won't make that mistake again!

Best,
-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs

2013-05-10 Thread Craig
On Thu, 9 May 2013 20:57:13 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is actually very cool
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=NoTMC-uxJoo
 
 --R
 
 
 
 That water sign is way cool!  I am trying to think of other ways to 
 use that.  It may not work without a big dark hole behind it though!

It seems to work at night when it is back lighted. I wonder what kind of
projection system they use.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] AC time

2013-05-10 Thread Gerry Archer
I used Ester oil instead of PAG oil when converting to 134a because it's 
supposed to be compatible with mineral oil.  In order to switch to 
Envirosafe I can blow out the lines, evaporator, and condenser, but I 
haven't figured out how to get the Ester oil out of the compressor without 
taking it out of the car.  Is it necessary to get rid of all the Ester oil 
or will it work okay with mineral oil if the remainder in the compressor is 
left in?

Thanks,
Gerry


From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net

Then try to charge it up with a test refrigerant?


Start there, and use some soapy water.  Or put in some R134, sniff
out a leak, then vacuum it out and replace with test, or F12, etc.

I have an old R12 connector and a can or two of R12 and some other stuff, 
so maybe trying a charge first to see if it lasts awhile, and if so just 
keep


Don't waste the R12 on an unknown quantity.  That's what the
test refrigerant is for.


I vaguely recall what is involved with a changeover,


R134a sux.  Nasty incompatible/immiscible oils, use mineral-oil
compatible refrigerants.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs

2013-05-10 Thread Gerry Archer


- Original Message - 
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs



On Thu, 09 May 2013 18:08:10 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


I think they should hang a chunk of iron gas pipe across the path, an
inch or two below the structure they're trying to protect. When you
hear the loud clanging noise it might be time to stop.


The parking garage at the Lab has one of those at its entrance. I drove
up one time in our Big Red Van with the racks on top not knowing if it
was too high or not. I went slowly and found, sure enough, that the BRV
was too high. The only problem was getting the fellow right behind me to
back up so I could turn aside and not go into the parking garage

For something on a highway, perhaps a piece of railroad track would be
better than pipe. It would have to be on somewhat long chains so it could
fly around when struck


Craig

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There is a railroad bridge on a main highway, State Route 40, going into 
Dunnellon, Florida.  Years ago it was too low for nearly all big highway 
trucks.  If an out of state semi-driver asked for directions to U.S. 19 at 
an Ocala area truck stop, some joker would often send him west on Route 40.
The railroad overpass was obviously too low, so the drivers nearly always 
managed to stop before hitting it.  The problem was that there was no place 
to even get off the road for about two miles back, and there would usually 
be many cars and small trucks backed up behind the semi-driver.  Someone 
would finally call the police who would manage to stop the traffic pileup, 
but I've never figured out how they managed to get dozens of vehicles to 
back up for one or two miles without it taking hours.  By the time we 
retired and moved to the area, the railroad bridge had been raised and the 
semis could pass under it.
One would have thought the state would put up flashing lights and warning 
signs at the last place a semi could turn around, but that was old time 
Florida and foresight was in short supply.
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] Trent rave

2013-05-10 Thread Gerry Archer
I get the impression that Aussies don't spend as much time worrying about 
current events as Americans seem to do, but they take their sports very 
seriously.


I watched Australian Rules football back in the '80s when it was on PBS.
The players kick the ball, run with it, pass it, tackle each other, etc.; 
all in sort of a haphazard way.

Meant to try and find the rules, but got busy and never did.
Gerry

Aussies really do have more fun, doncha?  Y'all have heart attacks down 
under there?  You'd think you get a lot more blood to the brain living 
nearly inverted all the time.  ;)


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent rave



From what I remember it showed up true personalities.
One party being professional and the other ranting and raving.

Hendrik
who rants and raves but generally in a jovial manner

On 10/05/13 04:07, clay wrote:
IT rapidly devolves into Banned territory and inflames strong feelings 
of betrayal and taking of sides


clay


On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Trent Fiorini wrote:

Must be the man Rusty had something going with, until he broke up with 
him.
I've heard some details on such a thing. Seems kinda a sore subject 
with

Rusty.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs

2013-05-10 Thread Gerry Archer

You must have remarkable depth perception, Wilton.
Gerry

Wilton wrote,
'Reminds me:  During one of my short trips home from Greenland, SWMBO got 
tickets for us to attend the stage show Annie at the Dorothy Chandler 
Music Pavilion in L. A.  We drove our '74 Dodge van to the show a little 
over an hour or so from our home in Wrightwood in the San Gabriel Mtns. 
between Pasadena and the Mojave Desert.  'Arrived at the theater fairly 
early.  As we approached the entry to the underground parking underneath 
the theater, I noticed that the van was too tall to enter.  I said firmly 
to SWMBO, who was driving, Stop, we can't go in there, stop!  She kept 
moving forward; I said again, Stop, we're too tall!  She replied, I 
drove in here with the van a week ago!  As I was opening door to peer at 
top of opening and sight to top of van, now very close and finally 
stopped, I said, Well, we can't go in now, the van's too tall.  How many 
were in the van? 5 women, she relied.  I walked to driver side of car 
that had pulled in behind us and asked him to let us back out, which we 
were able to easily do and went to empty lot across the street.  'Glad 
traffic was very light; also glad all of the women who rode to the show 
with her the week before also left with her.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs



On Thu, 09 May 2013 18:08:10 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


I think they should hang a chunk of iron gas pipe across the path, an
inch or two below the structure they're trying to protect. When you
hear the loud clanging noise it might be time to stop.


The parking garage at the Lab has one of those at its entrance. I drove
up one time in our Big Red Van with the racks on top not knowing if it
was too high or not. I went slowly and found, sure enough, that the BRV
was too high. The only problem was getting the fellow right behind me to
back up so I could turn aside and not go into the parking garage

For something on a highway, perhaps a piece of railroad track would be
better than pipe. It would have to be on somewhat long chains so it could
fly around when struck


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300SD with only 105Kmi! $3400

2013-05-10 Thread Kevin Kraly
Hi, Craig.  Actually, with the help of my computer and speech synthesizer, I 
can read and post to the list independently.  As for that '81 'SD, I would 
definitely consider putting stock wheels back on.  When you mentioned the 
wheel arches, are these the chrome kind that go around the lip of the 
fender?


Kevin in LaPorte, CO 



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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300SD with only 105Kmi! $3400

2013-05-10 Thread Mitch Haley

Kevin Kraly wrote:
When 
you mentioned the wheel arches, are these the chrome kind that go around 
the lip of the fender?


Yep. Sometimes it means nothing, sometimes it means they are hiding or have 
caused rust, sometimes they cause paint damage, and sometimes they prevent paint 
fade so you get dark rings around the wheel openings if you take them off.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300SD with only 105Kmi! $3400

2013-05-10 Thread Rich Thomas

I have seen those chrome surrounds on SLs.

I have a set of SEL wheels (2 with snow tires mounted) that would look 
better on that car!


--R

On 5/10/13 1:16 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Kevin Kraly wrote:
When you mentioned the wheel arches, are these the chrome kind that 
go around the lip of the fender?


Yep. Sometimes it means nothing, sometimes it means they are hiding or 
have caused rust, sometimes they cause paint damage, and sometimes 
they prevent paint fade so you get dark rings around the wheel 
openings if you take them off.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300SD with only 105Kmi! $3400

2013-05-10 Thread Darren Marshall
Accessibility is so often overlooked, and public awareness of it is quite
low. As someone who works in tech/web for a living, while I don't find it
all that surprising, I still find it amazing.

Darren
312-208-4328


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kevin Kraly kevinpadd...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi, Craig.  Actually, with the help of my computer and speech synthesizer,
 I can read and post to the list independently.  As for that '81 'SD, I
 would definitely consider putting stock wheels back on.  When you mentioned
 the wheel arches, are these the chrome kind that go around the lip of the
 fender?

 Kevin in LaPorte, CO

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs

2013-05-10 Thread WILTON

I do.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs



You must have remarkable depth perception, Wilton.
Gerry

Wilton wrote,
'Reminds me:  During one of my short trips home from Greenland, SWMBO got 
tickets for us to attend the stage show Annie at the Dorothy Chandler 
Music Pavilion in L. A.  We drove our '74 Dodge van to the show a little 
over an hour or so from our home in Wrightwood in the San Gabriel Mtns. 
between Pasadena and the Mojave Desert.  'Arrived at the theater fairly 
early.  As we approached the entry to the underground parking underneath 
the theater, I noticed that the van was too tall to enter.  I said firmly 
to SWMBO, who was driving, Stop, we can't go in there, stop!  She kept 
moving forward; I said again, Stop, we're too tall!  She replied, I 
drove in here with the van a week ago!  As I was opening door to peer at 
top of opening and sight to top of van, now very close and finally 
stopped, I said, Well, we can't go in now, the van's too tall.  How many 
were in the van? 5 women, she relied.  I walked to driver side of car 
that had pulled in behind us and asked him to let us back out, which we 
were able to easily do and went to empty lot across the street.  'Glad 
traffic was very light; also glad all of the women who rode to the show 
with her the week before also left with her.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs



On Thu, 09 May 2013 18:08:10 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


I think they should hang a chunk of iron gas pipe across the path, an
inch or two below the structure they're trying to protect. When you
hear the loud clanging noise it might be time to stop.


The parking garage at the Lab has one of those at its entrance. I drove
up one time in our Big Red Van with the racks on top not knowing if it
was too high or not. I went slowly and found, sure enough, that the BRV
was too high. The only problem was getting the fellow right behind me to
back up so I could turn aside and not go into the parking garage

For something on a highway, perhaps a piece of railroad track would be
better than pipe. It would have to be on somewhat long chains so it 
could

fly around when struck


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs

2013-05-10 Thread Curt Raymond
I think the back light is the projector, which is to say I think its a rear 
projection setup with the projector in the tunnel. Notice also how the tunnel 
goes dark just before the water comes on.
I expect that due to the way the tunnel sits down that unless the sun were 
directly behind the vehicle the sign would be quite visible.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 09:25:22 -0600
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs
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On Thu, 9 May 2013 20:57:13 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is actually very cool
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=NoTMC-uxJoo
 
 --R
 
 
 
 That water sign is way cool!  I am trying to think of other ways to 
 use that.  It may not work without a big dark hole behind it though!

It seems to work at night when it is back lighted. I wonder what kind of
projection system they use.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300SD with only 105Kmi! $3400

2013-05-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On May 10, 2013 10:38 AM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Accessibility is so often overlooked,
 and public awareness of it is quite
 low. As someone who works in tech
 /web for a living, while I don't find it
 all that surprising, I still find it
 amazing.


Same here.  I recently had to set up a small site for work using Microsoft
SharePoint 2010 and was amazed at its total lack of conformance to any kind
of accessibility standards.  MS pitches SharePoint as a be-all, end-all
solution for corporate intranets, but it would be completely useless to
anyone in Kevin's situation.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs

2013-05-10 Thread Craig
On Fri, 10 May 2013 10:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I think the back light is the projector, which is to say I think its
 a rear projection setup with the projector in the tunnel. Notice also
 how the tunnel goes dark just before the water comes on.

I hadn't noticed that, but the video clearly does show that the first
section of the tunnel is darkened at 0:50 with the two light vehicles
stopped.


Craig

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[MBZ] Computers and accessibility was Re: 1981 300SD with only 105Kmi! $3400

2013-05-10 Thread Kevin Kraly
Yes, my speech synthesizer program JAWS for Windows does work with many things. 
However, there are quite a few websites and programs that are still 
inaccessible. I will shortly be switching from a PC to a MacBook Pro which 
speaks everything.  If it revolutionizes my computer experience as my iPhone 4 
is revolutionized my smart phone experience, this will be very exciting!
Kevin in Laporte Colorado

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On May 10, 2013 10:38 AM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Accessibility is so often overlooked,
 and public awareness of it is quite
 low. As someone who works in tech
 /web for a living, while I don't find it
 all that surprising, I still find it
 amazing.
 
 Same here.  I recently had to set up a small site for work using Microsoft
 SharePoint 2010 and was amazed at its total lack of conformance to any kind
 of accessibility standards.  MS pitches SharePoint as a be-all, end-all
 solution for corporate intranets, but it would be completely useless to
 anyone in Kevin's situation.
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300SD with only 105Kmi! $3400

2013-05-10 Thread Kevin Kraly
At this point, the wheel arches may have to stay on the car. I wish I had that 
kind of money since I would seriously look at it.
Kevin in Laporte Colorado

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Kevin Kraly wrote:
 When you mentioned the wheel arches, are these the chrome kind that go 
 around the lip of the fender?
 
 Yep. Sometimes it means nothing, sometimes it means they are hiding or have 
 caused rust, sometimes they cause paint damage, and sometimes they prevent 
 paint fade so you get dark rings around the wheel openings if you take them 
 off.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Computers and accessibility was Re: 1981 300SD with only 105Kmi! $3400

2013-05-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Friends of ours have a visually impaired so who I have done a lot of IT work 
for, hence I am familiar with programs such as Jaws.

He has said that since he got an iPhone his connectivity has jumped 
significantly due to the accessibility features.

He occasionally posts photos that he takes, which are pretty comical, as he has 
no way to aim or frame the picture.

He's a really good natured guy who takes his exceptionality well. I get a kick 
when people stop themselves when they start to say, see you later! and his 
response will be something flippant.

I convinced his folks to move him to a Mac several years ago, mainly due to 
their accessibility features. He has been very pleased, and that is what led 
him to a iPhone.

Dan

On May 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Kevin Kraly kevinpadd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, my speech synthesizer program JAWS for Windows does work with many 
 things. However, there are quite a few websites and programs that are still 
 inaccessible. I will shortly be switching from a PC to a MacBook Pro which 
 speaks everything.  If it revolutionizes my computer experience as my iPhone 
 4 is revolutionized my smart phone experience, this will be very exciting!
 Kevin in Laporte Colorado
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 10, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On May 10, 2013 10:38 AM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Accessibility is so often overlooked,
 and public awareness of it is quite
 low. As someone who works in tech
 /web for a living, while I don't find it
 all that surprising, I still find it
 amazing.
 
 Same here.  I recently had to set up a small site for work using Microsoft
 SharePoint 2010 and was amazed at its total lack of conformance to any kind
 of accessibility standards.  MS pitches SharePoint as a be-all, end-all
 solution for corporate intranets, but it would be completely useless to
 anyone in Kevin's situation.
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Fiorini-Q, or maybe Q2-que?

2013-05-10 Thread Max
Will the location be in the state of IL?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Trent Fiorini buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

I do have intentions of this festive event, I was just going through
some
of the Rusty-Q can coolers from past events last week. 

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Re: [MBZ] Crown Vic?

2013-05-10 Thread Max
I think that a CNG vehicle has a fuel cost per mile about half the equivalent 
gasoline powered vehicle.  CNG is the new diesel!

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Max wrote:
 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_GX
 
 More info above.  Looks like Oklahoma, Utah, California, and New York
are states where CNG stations are common.

So maybe a CNG Crown Vic does have value in NY.
Can't imagine paying $9k for a 9 year old one.
Apparently this guy started advertising it at $12k.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] RLE

2013-05-10 Thread Max
Like you got rid of Jabba?
-- 
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Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

He annoyed me, I got rid of him.

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Re: [MBZ] Fiorini-Q, or maybe Q2-que?

2013-05-10 Thread Max
Might be closer to me than IL.
-- 
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Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

You are of course invited to the ChowdaQ in RI. I forget the date for
this year but its early Sept.

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Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - Freeze 12

2013-05-10 Thread Max
You need to pay attention to the oil viscosity requirement of the compressor.  
Sorry but I don't have that information handy.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Jon Agne wrote:
 I will be replacing my compressor, drier, and expansion valve this
weekend.  The compressor died last fall, and it was probably the nasty
PAG from the 134 conversion that hastened the demise.
 
 I've decided to use ES-12 this time.  I was trying to locate some of
the Frigi-Quiet II compressor oil, but am beginning to believe it's
mythical in existence.  Any recommendations for proper mineral oil, or
should I just get what Car-Quest has on the shelf?
 

I just use whatever oil NAPA sells for R12 systems.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs

2013-05-10 Thread clay
We do have a few of the low handing metal doo-hickies around town.  Mostly 
parking garage, but one or two low hanging bridges.  Really vintage brick arch 
structures meant to be used by early motor cars or horse carts.   Again, 
students and absent minded truck drivers.  Transit buses are low enough to 
clear, tour buses are not.

clay


On May 9, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Craig wrote:

 On Thu, 09 May 2013 18:08:10 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 I think they should hang a chunk of iron gas pipe across the path, an
 inch or two below the structure they're trying to protect. When you
 hear the loud clanging noise it might be time to stop.
 
 The parking garage at the Lab has one of those at its entrance. I drove
 up one time in our Big Red Van with the racks on top not knowing if it
 was too high or not. I went slowly and found, sure enough, that the BRV
 was too high. The only problem was getting the fellow right behind me to
 back up so I could turn aside and not go into the parking garage
 
 For something on a highway, perhaps a piece of railroad track would be
 better than pipe. It would have to be on somewhat long chains so it could
 fly around when struck
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] A few hours of work

2013-05-10 Thread clay
I am a bit in lust.  Too back I could not drive it back home

clay

On May 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote:

 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/mercedes-250-/271203372190?pt=AU_Carshash=item3f24fb0c9e_uhb=1
 Just to make you all feel better than we have nutjobs here as well.
 
 Hendrik
 who is not really a nutjob
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Re: [MBZ] Qsr and jr B day

2013-05-10 Thread clay
No death notices in local papers or online.  The events he usually attends are 
unattended and I am unwilling to stalk his home.

clay


On May 9, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?
 
 Dan
 
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:
 
 Roger has gone missing.
 
 He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.
 
 clay
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Crown Vic?

2013-05-10 Thread clay
If it had a kilo of coke in the rear seat, I might expect that high a price.

clay

On May 9, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

 Max wrote:
 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_GX
 More info above.  Looks like Oklahoma, Utah, California, and New York are 
 states where CNG stations are common.
 
 So maybe a CNG Crown Vic does have value in NY.
 Can't imagine paying $9k for a 9 year old one.
 Apparently this guy started advertising it at $12k.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Crown Vic?

2013-05-10 Thread dseretakis
He should get together with Andrew's son!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 9, 2013, at 9:43 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a friend who is as rabid about CNG as I am about Diesel - he has two
 CNG cars that I know of, and is threatening to convert a Miata to CNG -
 just because. (He races Miatas also).
 
 
 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I know of 2 CNG stations, one right by LAX and another near Logan in
 Boston. Most buses around airports run on CNG.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 -- 
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 2013 F150
 2012 Passat TDI DSG
 1957 C182A
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread RELNGSON
 .Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?
 
 Dan
 
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:
 
  Roger has gone missing.
 
  He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.
 
  clay.
 
My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or 
anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been among 
the 
missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my 
death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under 
re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing a 
huge 
problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First 
Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near 
septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged to a 
two 
week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted to 
the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I was 
headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the 
building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I was 
once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The most 
awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed with an 
indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the time 
being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always attend.

But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google 
it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that 
have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart 
damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance from 
my Cardiologist first.

So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of 
the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No 
after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for three 
hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel quite 
normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made 
things easier for me.

When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and 
I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at once 
which I hoped to do.

RLE

I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can 
become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has not 
had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and I 
hope I can participate.


 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Wow... sorry to hear about what you've been going through Roger.  Best of
luck and good health for the future!  I look forward to the return of your
special way of posting to this list!

Jaime



On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 6:09 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  .Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?
 
  Dan
 
 
  On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:
 
   Roger has gone missing.
  
   He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.
  
   clay.
 
 My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or
 anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been
 among the
 missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my
 death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under
 re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing
 a huge
 problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First
 Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near
 septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged
 to a two
 week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted
 to
 the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I was
 headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the
 building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I
 was
 once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The
 most
 awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed
 with an
 indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the time
 being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always attend.

 But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google
 it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that
 have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart
 damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance
 from
 my Cardiologist first.

 So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of
 the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No
 after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for
 three
 hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel
 quite
 normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made
 things easier for me.

 When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and
 I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at
 once
 which I hoped to do.

 RLE

 I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can
 become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has
 not
 had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and I
 hope I can participate.


 
 
 
 
 
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[MBZ] way OT - looking for a left handed worker who wears gloves

2013-05-10 Thread David Kristin Gilmore

At 10:33 AM 5/7/2013, Rick wrote:

(snip)


Hey, what do I know? I'm left hand dominant.


 Have I got a deal for you.  Or someone else who is left handed 
and wears work gloves.


 As it happens I am right handed and have found I wear out first 
the right hand gloves I use in the garden and around the place.  I 
hate to throw away the half worn left gloves.  I have a box of them 
(mostly cheap leather faced) on a shelf.  Probably 40 or 50 of 
them.  So here's what I have been thinking.  Somewhere out there is a 
thrifty guy like me who is left handed and hates to throw away the 
half worn right hand gloves.  We trade!


 For the price of one of these USPS flat rate boxes we save 
ourselves significant bucks.  Or if you are nearby and want a place 
to go for a Sunday drive come see me.  Spring is lovely here.  Send a 
message and i will send directions.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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 Happiness is wanting what you get. 



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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 10, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow... sorry to hear about what you've been going through Roger.  Best of
 luck and good health for the future!  I look forward to the return of your
 special way of posting to this list!


What he said. 
Thoughts and prayers are with you. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On May 10, 2013 3:15 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow... sorry to hear about what
 you've been going through Roger.
  Best of
 luck and good health for the future!  I
 look forward to the return of your
 special way of posting to this list!

Ditto.  Best wishes and here's hoping you get to detailing the C-class
sooner rather than later.  What's the point of life, after all, if you
can't mess around with old cars?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Double-ditto.

Glad you're on the woad to wecovery.

Dan


On May 10, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

 On May 10, 2013 3:15 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow... sorry to hear about what
 you've been going through Roger.
 Best of
 luck and good health for the future!  I
 look forward to the return of your
 special way of posting to this list!
 
 Ditto.  Best wishes and here's hoping you get to detailing the C-class
 sooner rather than later.  What's the point of life, after all, if you
 can't mess around with old cars?
 
 Alex
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[MBZ] ATE vs Bendix Calipers...more...

2013-05-10 Thread B Dike
All,

Thanks for the inputs on the ATE vs Bendix calipers question for my 74 240D.

It came with ATE calipers.  My basic question is whether I can replace *both* L 
and R calipers with Bendix.   I tried to mount a Bendix caliper on the front 
right but there was interference from the rotor, not sure if it was an 
incompatible mount or merely rust on the rim of the rotor.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Bruce  
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Mitch Haley

relng...@aol.com wrote:

My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or 
anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been among the 
missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my 
death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under 
re-treatment. 


That sucks.
Get well, eh?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Did they CHECK YOUR FUSES while they were in there?  And what kind of 
oil are you using?


Hope you get back on your feet without the extra drain soon.

--R


On 5/10/13 6:09 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

.Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?

Dan


On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:


Roger has gone missing.

He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.


  clay.


My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or
anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been among the
missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my
death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under
re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing a 
huge
problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First
Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near
septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged to a 
two
week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted to
the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I was
headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the
building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I was
once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The most
awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed with an
indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the time
being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always attend.

But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google
it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that
have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart
damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance from
my Cardiologist first.

So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of
the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No
after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for three
hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel quite
normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made
things easier for me.

When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and
I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at once
which I hoped to do.

RLE

I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can
become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has not
had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and I
hope I can participate.








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[MBZ] IVIG [was Re: (no subject)....facebook.]

2013-05-10 Thread Craig
On Thu, 9 May 2013 17:14:43 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Real fun morning 7 to 10 AM in hospital tomorrow for IVIG.

How did your IVIG treatment go, Wilton?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ATE vs Bendix Calipers...more...

2013-05-10 Thread Craig
On Fri, 10 May 2013 15:48:26 -0700 (PDT) B Dike bdi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It came with ATE calipers.  My basic question is whether I can replace
 *both* L and R calipers with Bendix.

Yes. The same rotor is used with both calipers.


 I tried to mount a Bendix caliper on the front right but there was
 interference from the rotor, not sure if it was an incompatible mount
 or merely rust on the rim of the rotor.  Any ideas?

It could be a lip left on the outer edge of the braking surface by
previous use which wore down the majority of the braking surface.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-10 Thread Darren Marshall
PBR's marketing firm would call them influencers 


Darren Marshall
http://doejo.com
http://bowtruss.com

On May 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which was 
 pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also can give 
 you a wicked headache.
 
 I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full getup is 
 carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to tell him what 
 a dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.
 
 --(notPB)R
 
 
 On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
 I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good after
 a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of the
 day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.
 
 Mike
 On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty (boh).
 
 Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't think
 natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)
 
 --
 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 Hendrik and fay wrote:
 These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites
 that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.
 This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz
 http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
 The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't
 say PBR.
 The rest are names I've never heard of.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - Freeze 12

2013-05-10 Thread Gerry Archer
I've decided to use ES-12 this time.  I was trying to locate some of the 
Frigi-Quiet II compressor oil, but am beginning to believe it's mythical 
in existence.  Any recommendations for proper mineral oil, or should I 
just get what Car-Quest has on the shelf?

And yes,  I will flush the system thoroughly.
Jon
'85 300D


NAPA carries wax-free mineral oil; about $30/qt.
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Damn that sucks

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2013, at 5:09 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

 .Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?
 
 Dan
 
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:
 
 Roger has gone missing.
 
 He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.
 clay.
 My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or 
 anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been among 
 the 
 missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my 
 death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under 
 re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing a 
 huge 
 problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First 
 Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near 
 septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged to 
 a two 
 week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted to 
 the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I was 
 headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the 
 building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I 
 was 
 once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The most 
 awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed with 
 an 
 indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the time 
 being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always attend.
 
 But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google 
 it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that 
 have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart 
 damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance 
 from 
 my Cardiologist first.
 
 So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of 
 the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No 
 after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for three 
 hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel 
 quite 
 normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made 
 things easier for me.
 
 When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and 
 I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at once 
 which I hoped to do.
 
 RLE
 
 I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can 
 become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has not 
 had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and I 
 hope I can participate.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-10 Thread clay
I normally stock garage beer.  Best for removing dust and relieving parched 
throats while performing auto or yard work.  Normally an ice or standard, low 
price, american lager.  After a family gathering recently, my mother had opened 
a bottle of people beer and did not pour but a third of the beverage into her 
glass before she left.  I found the remainder the next morning and not wanting 
to waste it, I used it as fluid for making bread batter.  

The bread turned out quite tasty and not wanting to over invest in future 
loaves, I found a case of PBR at the grocers that was much below the retail 
cost of the other beers.  That is now the beer base for my bread.  That is 
about the only use, other than to exterminate slugs, I have found for PBR.

clay


On May 10, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which was 
 pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also can give 
 you a wicked headache.
 
 I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full getup is 
 carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to tell him what 
 a dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.
 
 --(notPB)R
 
 
 On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
 I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good after
 a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of the
 day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.
 
 Mike
 On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty (boh).
 
 Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't think
 natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)
 
 --
 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 Hendrik and fay wrote:
 These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites
 that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.
 This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz
 http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
 The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't
 say PBR.
 The rest are names I've never heard of.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread clay
Very happy to hear you are still above ground and that medical attention was 
superior to that which put my father under dirt two weeks ago.  I will keep an 
eye out for your and your car as summer progresses

clay



On May 10, 2013, at 3:09 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

 .Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?
 
 Dan
 
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:
 
 Roger has gone missing.
 
 He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.
 
 clay.
 
 My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or 
 anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been among 
 the 
 missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my 
 death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under 
 re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing a 
 huge 
 problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First 
 Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near 
 septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged to 
 a two 
 week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted to 
 the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I was 
 headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the 
 building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I 
 was 
 once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The most 
 awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed with 
 an 
 indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the time 
 being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always attend.
 
 But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google 
 it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that 
 have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart 
 damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance 
 from 
 my Cardiologist first.
 
 So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of 
 the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No 
 after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for three 
 hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel 
 quite 
 normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made 
 things easier for me.
 
 When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and 
 I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at once 
 which I hoped to do.
 
 RLE
 
 I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can 
 become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has not 
 had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and I 
 hope I can participate.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-10 Thread clay
Even in secondary school we avoided PBR like the plague.  At least shell out 
for Miller or Busch

clay


On May 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Darren Marshall wrote:

 PBR's marketing firm would call them influencers 
 
 
 Darren Marshall
 http://doejo.com
 http://bowtruss.com
 
 On May 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which was 
 pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also can give 
 you a wicked headache.
 
 I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full getup 
 is carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to tell him 
 what a dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.
 
 --(notPB)R
 
 
 On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
 I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good after
 a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of the
 day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.
 
 Mike
 On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty (boh).
 
 Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't think
 natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)
 
 --
 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 Hendrik and fay wrote:
 These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites
 that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.
 This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz
 http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
 The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't
 say PBR.
 The rest are names I've never heard of.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Max
Roger, glad to see you posting again and still among the living!

I'll be praying for your health to return and for your surgeons to be skilled.  

This list is not the same without you.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] ATE vs Bendix Calipers...more...

2013-05-10 Thread Max
Yes.   Replace both rotors, or use more force to expand the pads enough to fit 
over the lip on the current rotor.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

B Dike bdi...@yahoo.com wrote:

All,

Thanks for the inputs on the ATE vs Bendix calipers question for my 74
240D.

It came with ATE calipers.  My basic question is whether I can replace
*both* L and R calipers with Bendix.   I tried to mount a Bendix
caliper on the front right but there was interference from the rotor,
not sure if it was an incompatible mount or merely rust on the rim of
the rotor.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Bruce  
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[MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-10 Thread Allan Streib
I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?

Allan
-- 
Allan Streib

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Re: [MBZ] ATE vs Bendix Calipers...more...

2013-05-10 Thread Max
What type of pads?  Could they be too thick?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Yes.   Replace both rotors, or use more force to expand the pads enough
to fit over the lip on the current rotor.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

B Dike bdi...@yahoo.com wrote:

All,

Thanks for the inputs on the ATE vs Bendix calipers question for my 74
240D.

It came with ATE calipers.  My basic question is whether I can replace
*both* L and R calipers with Bendix.   I tried to mount a Bendix
caliper on the front right but there was interference from the rotor,
not sure if it was an incompatible mount or merely rust on the rim of
the rotor.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Bruce  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
 Needs to be gas-powered...

Aren't there any diesel powered units out there???

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan
Streib
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:25 PM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's probably
something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should just rent one as
needed?

Allan
--
Allan Streib

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-10 Thread Scott Ritchey

Sounds like any 16-18 inch consumer-grade chainsaw will fit your need.
You'll find several types at Walmart, Lowes, etc.  Pro-grade saws will cost
2x-3x the price of the homeowner stuff.  Whatever you get: (1) don't store
it with fuel in the tank (or you'll need to replace the carb), (2) don't use
old fuel; store your fuel-oil mix in a small can for that reason, (3)
agitate the fuel can before pouring and agitate the saw before using, and
(5) buy a file (in the correct size) to sharpen the chain.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan
Streib
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:25 PM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?

Allan
-- 
Allan Streib

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Re: [MBZ] CNG - was: Crown Vic?

2013-05-10 Thread Fmiser
On Fri, 10 May 2013 15:48:20 -0400
Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I think that a CNG vehicle has a fuel cost per mile about half the
 equivalent gasoline powered vehicle.  CNG is the new diesel!

No.  It is not a compression ignition.

And CNG is more volatile than gasoline.  

And has to be in a _pressurized_ storage tank.

But if there isn't a leak, long term storage potential is good.

--   Philip, who chooses diesel _not_ because of price.

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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Gerry Archer


Sorry to hear about your illnesses, Roger.  That's a difficult trio of 
health problems to be hit with almost simulataneously.  However, the fact 
that you came through them so well would indicate that you have a very good 
chance of a relatively full recovery.  We'll be rooting for you.

Gerry

From: relng...@aol.com
 My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or
anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been 
among the
missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in 
my

death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under
re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing 
a huge

problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First
Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near
septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged 
to a two
week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted 
to
the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I 
was

headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the
building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I 
was
once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The 
most
awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed 
with an
indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the 
time
being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always 
attend.


But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google
it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that
have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart
damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance 
from

my Cardiologist first.

So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of
the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No
after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for 
three
hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel 
quite

normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made
things easier for me.

When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and
I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at 
once

which I hoped to do.

RLE

I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can
become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has 
not
had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and 
I

hope I can participate.









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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread OK Don
Sorry to hear about the problems, but glad to hear that you made it
through. The more I hear about hospital experiences, the more I think that
we have great medical care in this country, if they don't kill you first.

-- 
OK Don
2013 F150
2012 Passat TDI DSG
1957 C182A
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Craig
On Fri, 10 May 2013 18:09:12 -0400 (EDT) relng...@aol.com wrote:

  On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:
  
   Roger has gone missing.
  
   He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.
  
   clay.
  
 My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or 
 anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been
 among the missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly
 resulted in my death.

We are thankful you made it through and will be praying for you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get laser water signs

2013-05-10 Thread Hendrik and fay

http://www.laservision.com.au/page.asp?lid=1sec=Projectssubsec=Permanent+Attractionssubsubsec=Softstop
All done with lasers?

Hendrik
who has not been to Sydney for a long time

On 11/05/13 03:18, Curt Raymond wrote:

I think the back light is the projector, which is to say I think its a rear 
projection setup with the projector in the tunnel. Notice also how the tunnel goes dark 
just before the water comes on.
I expect that due to the way the tunnel sits down that unless the sun were 
directly behind the vehicle the sign would be quite visible.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 09:25:22 -0600
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aussie idiots get water signs
Message-ID: 20130510092522.27ed5d0ffae05e9135e22...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 9 May 2013 20:57:13 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


This is actually very cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=NoTMC-uxJoo

--R



That water sign is way cool!  I am trying to think of other ways to
use that.  It may not work without a big dark hole behind it though!

It seems to work at night when it is back lighted. I wonder what kind of
projection system they use.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football

2013-05-10 Thread Hendrik and fay
Actually I was going to say them same thing about gridiron, it's sort of 
based on rugby, right?


Hendrik
who is about to go and watch Aussie Rules

On 10/05/13 21:59, Gerry Archer wrote:
I get the impression that Aussies don't spend as much time worrying 
about current events as Americans seem to do, but they take their 
sports very seriously.


I watched Australian Rules football back in the '80s when it was on PBS.
The players kick the ball, run with it, pass it, tackle each other, 
etc.; all in sort of a haphazard way.

Meant to try and find the rules, but got busy and never did.
Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] CNG - was: Crown Vic?

2013-05-10 Thread G Mann
If you do a true apples to apples comparison of Diesel fuel and CNG fuel,
which would include all the special handling equipment and engine changes
necessary to actually run CNG, the BTU yield per pound of material is still
much lower for CNG than Diesel.

Internal combustion engines are heat engines.. you have to make heat to get
power. If the fuel used simply does not possess the density of BTU's per
unit of fuel, it takes more of that fuel to make the equivalent useful
horse power.

CNG is the poster child for clean burning and for government subsidy
but not for efficiency per pound of energy yield.  The argument can be made
that without government subsidy keeping the GNG industry pumped up, no one
would bother with it.

Numerous transit companies have ordered and used CNG buses as part of their
fleet mix. In every case, as soon as the government money which supported
them ran out.. they were retired and sold off for pennies on the dollar..

Grant...
Who presently owns 3 retired diesel buses and has owned more than 10 in the
past 10 years and has had a good look at CNG buses at auctions.


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 10 May 2013 15:48:20 -0400
 Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  I think that a CNG vehicle has a fuel cost per mile about half the
  equivalent gasoline powered vehicle.  CNG is the new diesel!

 No.  It is not a compression ignition.

 And CNG is more volatile than gasoline.

 And has to be in a _pressurized_ storage tank.

 But if there isn't a leak, long term storage potential is good.

 --   Philip, who chooses diesel _not_ because of price.

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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Hendrik and fay
Oohh sorry to hear about your health, I pray that you'll pull through 
and can grace us with your presence for many years to come.
If I was closer I would come around and help you polish the Benz, under 
your close supervision of course.
You'll be pleased to know that I have fitted ceramic pads all round on 
my TE and the wheels are a lot cleaner now.


Hendrik
who missed Roger

On 11/05/13 07:39, relng...@aol.com wrote:

.Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?

Dan


On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:


Roger has gone missing.

He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.


  clay.


My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or
anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been among the
missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my
death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under
re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing a 
huge
problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First
Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near
septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged to a 
two
week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted to
the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I was
headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the
building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I was
once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The most
awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed with an
indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the time
being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always attend.

But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google
it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that
have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart
damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance from
my Cardiologist first.

So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of
the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No
after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for three
hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel quite
normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made
things easier for me.

When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and
I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at once
which I hoped to do.

RLE

I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can
become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has not
had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and I
hope I can participate.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-10 Thread Jim Cathey

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?


Having one is better than not, if you need one at all.  You'll
use it more than you think.  I'm very partial to my Stihl.
I was sick of my cheapie that appeared to be frightened of
wood.  (It'd only run if it wasn't close to any.  Seriously!)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] ATE vs Bendix Calipers...more...

2013-05-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Replace both rotors, or use more force to expand the pads enough to 
fit over the lip on the current rotor.


Or use an angle grinder to skim down the ridge.  I do it with a
light touch _while_ the wheel is spinning.  (By hand up front,
in gear and idling in rear.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Fiorini-Q, or maybe Q2-que?

2013-05-10 Thread Dieselhead
 Four hours after we left Charlotte on Saturday, we were eating 
Whoppers for lunch in Holland.



Mitch.


You in Charlotte?   Do you know Mike Beck of Uncle John's?

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[MBZ] Woger the missing

2013-05-10 Thread Dieselhead


My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or
anything else here so credit can be taken
RLE


That's no fun at all.  Get well so you can shine up that Cheap class. 
I didn't know there was a porch collectors ass.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-10 Thread Dieselhead

I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?

Allan
--


I have liked Stihl, but if you can find a 40 yr old Homelite super EZ 
(16) they are nice.


the big box poulans are cheap and surprisingly reliable for new saws.

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Re: [MBZ] way OT - looking for a left handed worker who wears gloves

2013-05-10 Thread Dieselhead

At 10:33 AM 5/7/2013, Rick wrote:

(snip)


Hey, what do I know? I'm left hand dominant.


Hey!  that is the right hand.  Doncha know the other people use the wrong one?

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Re: [MBZ] ATE vs Bendix Calipers...more...

2013-05-10 Thread Dieselhead
Replace both rotors, or use more force to expand the pads enough to 
fit over the lip on the current rotor.


Or use an angle grinder to skim down the ridge.  I do it with a
light touch _while_ the wheel is spinning.  (By hand up front,
in gear and idling in rear.)

-- Jim


Ditto.  removing the lip makes life easier.  However, if the lip is 
that bad, you really need new rotors.


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Re: [MBZ] Fiorini-Q, or maybe Q2-que?

2013-05-10 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:


You in Charlotte?


Yes.


  Do you know Mike Beck of Uncle John's?


No.
When you say Uncle John's, all I can think of is the cider mill near St Johns.
Coincidentally, there's also a Beck's Marine in St Johns.

Mitch.

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