date:20130514

'Thought you told me a few days ago you are south-oriented.  'Even using 
bassackward maps.  ;)


Wilton

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From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ran When Planted


Thank you, although once north of 35 or so they become less exciting and 
are a more of a reminder of ones mortality.


Hendrik
who is way north of 35

On 14/05/13 15:34, Max wrote:

Happy birthday Hendrik!



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Re: [MBZ] MBCA forum WAS: Ran When Parked

A pity; a loss for us all.

Wilton

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You are correct -  she died of cancer...

Larry

On 5/13/2013 9:46 PM, WILTON wrote:

I thought she died; cancer, maybe.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA forum WAS: Ran When Parked

What's she doing now? Still involved with the club?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Kathy was Awesome!  Miss her dearly...   It's not hard to explain 
why she was so well thought of on the list, she had a way of 
putting list members 1st whenever possible.She was very likable 
and had a way of putting list-members at ease...   as well as being 
a wiz at IT stuff, who was always  perfectly willing to explain 
even the most basic things to us Newbies ;-)

LarryT

Yes, and she was as nice in real life as online.  She cared about 
her 280SE (i think it was) and about MBCA.  She always had time for 
members who didn't own the newest car.  Unlike some of the other 
presidents of MBCA.  She was a great RVP and made a good Pres.

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Re: [MBZ] Ran When Planted


Clinton is only 35 min. away. What does Steve have? a business?


Yes.  Pelham Brothers does a lot of MB restoration.  Steve used to 
work for Bickelhaupt Motors, who became a MB dealer because they were 
a studebaker dealer, way back when MB was first brought to the USA by 
Studebaker.  It was a great dealership, but it has been gone for a 
long time.


Contact them about parts sales in your spare time.

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Re: [MBZ] 1982 - V8 300TD

2013-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley


Randy Bennell wrote:
There was a recent thread I saw somewhere, with photos, that showed a 
SBC V8 being transplanted into an MB. What a butcher job. They had to 
cut away way too much for my liking. Things like that should not be 
allowed on the road without some form of structural integrity testing. I 
am not opposed to individual freedoms but I don't want to be nailed by 
some goofball that has his homemade car come apart because he did not 
really learn how to weld.


In Germany, you need a letter from MBZ saying your modifications didn't affect 
the safety of the car. Either that, or get a manufacturer's license and certify 
it yourself, which is how tuners like Koenig operate.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Ran When Planted

2013-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley


Dieselhead wrote:

There is also a guy in SW WI who does 300 adenauers.  That might be more 
your style.  Different kind of 300d.


Then there was Manfred P in Chacaga.  He had a spare 600 most of the time.


How to amass a small fortune:
1. Get a large fortune.
2. Buy an Adenauer or a Grosser (600) and drive it regularly.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker
teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw. Much less dangerous, plus
it builds team spirit to operate.

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote:

thanks,
Folks,

THe best chainsaw that i ever had was an old Poulan pulpwooder's saw, i
would call it. It was huge and had a big open bow for a bar. It was only
for cutting up logs. You'd put the end of the bow up against the log and
there was a casting clamped to bottom of the bow that you put under the
log. You would then lift the motor end up and the bow would go deeper and
deeper into the log. You could just cut logs on the ground.

I think they are supposed to be incredibly dangerous. Are they even still
made. I had mine back in the late 70's to mid 80's when i heated with wood.

It was a bear to start or even to pick up, to drop while holding the
starter cord to start it. I could do it fine from age 25 to 35, but i don't
know about now, at nearly 59. Once running it was great and never would
quit.

I got the machine from my local chainsaw repair guy who would always sell
me interesting saws that needed a little work.

I think, that sadly, it was stolen at some point.

Now all i have are a couple of barely used mass marketed Poulans
maybe a 2150 and a 2300 with bars that are probably too long. They suck. I
bought them for probably $5 or $10 each at yard sales. Once running, they
are ok, but since much of my living is made cleaning carbs on motor
scooters, i have little interest in cleaning chainsaw carbs.

I usually start them with starting fluid for the little bit of cutting
that i have to do, normally. Now i have a big tree that i had a crazy guy
take down and need to cut up the limbs on the ground.

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Randy Bennell

Well, depending on your inclination and the strength of your back, a 
good bowsaw will cut a lot of wood as well.

Sometimes called a Swede Saw.
My father worked in the bush as a young man and cut a lot of wood before 
chain saws became readily available.


I am not sure I would like to follow in his footsteps however. I prefer 
the chainsaw but try to be very careful. That is one of the reasons that 
I bought the new saw a couple of years ago.
The new ones have safety features not seen on saws 30 years ago like the 
chain brake.

I also bought a set of the chaps that are supposed to protect your legs.

Randy


On 14/05/2013 10:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker
teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw.  Much less dangerous, plus
it builds team spirit to operate.





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Re: [MBZ] deer in georgia

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Canfield

I had similar issues hunting them with my 12ga. Ford.  Only ground burger
left.

Mike
On May 13, 2013 6:42 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Greg Fiorentino wrote:
 
  As with deer, I prefer to hit them with a Remington rather than a
  Benz. I've had some close calls (with a Volvo), but never actually
  hit any with a vehicle.

 I've hit half a dozen in vehicles ranging from a 1st generation
 Escort to a Peterbilt 362.The only problem with using the Pete
 was it made a mess of the deer.

 -- Philip

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[MBZ] ATE vs Bendix final chapter

2013-05-14 Thread B Dike

All,

I was finally able to mount the Bendix caliper to replace the ATE on the 240D.  
The rotor had expanded in diameter due to rust and heat deformation and was 
impinging on the caliper.  So I ground off the rust on the circumference of the 
rotor which relieved most of the interference except for a couple spots.  The 
Bendix caliper was a rebuild and the two castings were poorly matched, the 
outer casting was offset high.  So I applied a little Dremel therapy to the 
high spots.  Now it fits, and on to the other caliper.  Bendix rebuilds are a 
common as coffee cups and very inexpensive, under $50 everywhere.  ATE calipers 
have disappeared, $375 ea. on ebay for full rebuilds, seal kits alone are $25 
ea.  So the answer is Bendix.  BTW, as I was fumbling for a plan, Management 
asked Can't you just take the part off that other car?  (she was kind enough 
not to say that old diesel that's been sitting in the driveway that doesn't 
run)  In hindsight,
 the correct answer should have been Yes dear.    It was another 240D with 
Bendix calipers.

Bruce
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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Dan Penoff

Dan story:

When I was 10 yeas old, we moved into a house that sat on an acre of lawn with
an adjoining wooded plot that was around 7-8 acres.

The house had a great room with a vaulted ceiling, and a fireplace made of
stone that nearly filled one of the walls.

Dad proclaimed when we moved in, I am going to have a fire every night in the
winter.

When fall came around he informed my older brother and I that we would now be
spending our fall weekends felling trees and cutting timber for the fireplace.

He went out into the woods with a can of spray paint and marked the trees he
wanted us to cut down.

So he comes home from work a few days later, having made a stop at Vonneguts,
our local hardware store.

Anticipation was high between my brother and I, thinking about all the fun we
were going to have with a chain saw and the resulting damage we would do.

Dad pulls into the garage, pops the trunk of his car, and pulls out

An axe.

An adze.

Some wedges.

(We are just about ready to burst at this point)

.and a Tuttle Tooth Two Man Saw!!!

Whaaa?

Oh, and two new pair of leather work gloves.

So my brother and I spent our October and November weekends felling trees with
the axe and wedges, and cutting up the lumber with the Tuttle Tooth saw.

I will say that if you have a couple of people who work together well, you can
do some serious damage with a two man saw.

I sold the saw just a year or two ago. It was as sharp as the day we got it.

Dan who still doesn't have a chain saw, which is probably just as well

On May 14, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker
teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw. Much less dangerous, plus
it builds team spirit to operate.

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote:

thanks,
Folks,

I think they are supposed to be incredibly dangerous. Are they even still
made. I had mine back in the late 70's to mid 80's when i heated with wood.

I got the machine from my local chainsaw repair guy who would always sell
me interesting saws that needed a little work.

I think, that sadly, it was stolen at some point.

I usually start them with starting fluid for the little bit of cutting
that i have to do, normally. Now i have a big tree that i had a crazy guy
take down and need to cut up the limbs on the ground.

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

Good training!

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

Dan story:

When I was 10 yeas old, we moved into a house that sat on an acre of lawn 
with an adjoining wooded plot that was around 7-8 acres.

The house had a great room with a vaulted ceiling, and a fireplace made of 
stone that nearly filled one of the walls.

Dad proclaimed when we moved in, I am going to have a fire every night in 
the winter.

When fall came around he informed my older brother and I that we would now 
be spending our fall weekends felling trees and cutting timber for the 
fireplace.

He went out into the woods with a can of spray paint and marked the trees 
he wanted us to cut down.

So he comes home from work a few days later, having made a stop at 
Vonneguts, our local hardware store.

Anticipation was high between my brother and I, thinking about all the fun 
we were going to have with a chain saw and the resulting damage we would 
do.

Dad pulls into the garage, pops the trunk of his car, and pulls out

An axe.

An adze.

Some wedges.

(We are just about ready to burst at this point)

.and a Tuttle Tooth Two Man Saw!!!

Whaaa?

Oh, and two new pair of leather work gloves.

So my brother and I spent our October and November weekends felling trees 
with the axe and wedges, and cutting up the lumber with the Tuttle Tooth 
saw.

I will say that if you have a couple of people who work together well, you 
can do some serious damage with a two man saw.

I sold the saw just a year or two ago. It was as sharp as the day we got 
it.

Dan who still doesn't have a chain saw, which is probably just as well

On May 14, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
wrote:

A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker
teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw.  Much less dangerous, 
plus

it builds team spirit to operate.

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com 
wrote:

thanks,
Folks,

THe best chainsaw that i ever had was an old Poulan pulpwooder's saw, i
would call it. It was huge and had a big open bow for a bar. It was only
for cutting up logs. You'd put the end of the bow up against the log and
there was a casting clamped to bottom of the bow that you put under the
log. You would then lift the motor end up and the bow would go deeper 
and

deeper into the log. You could just cut logs on the ground.

I think they are supposed to be incredibly dangerous. Are they even 
still
made. I had mine back in the late 70's to mid 80's when i heated with 
wood.

It was a bear to start or even to pick up, to drop while holding the
starter cord to start it. I could do it fine from age 25 to 35, but i 
don't

know about now, at nearly 59. Once running it was great and never would
quit.

I got the machine from my local chainsaw repair guy who would always 
sell

me interesting saws that needed a little work.

I think, that sadly, it was stolen at some point.

Now all i have are a couple of barely used mass marketed Poulans 
maybe a 2150 and a 2300 with  bars that are probably too long. They 
suck. I
bought them for probably $5 or $10 each at yard sales. Once running, 
they

are ok, but since much of my living is made cleaning carbs on motor
scooters, i have little interest in cleaning chainsaw carbs.

I usually start them with starting fluid for the little bit of cutting
that i have to do, normally. Now i have a big tree that i had a crazy 
guy

take down and need to cut up the limbs on the ground.

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Rich Thomas


Andrew -- a secret Amish

--R


On 5/14/13 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker
teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw.  Much less dangerous, plus
it builds team spirit to operate.





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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Fmiser

 Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker
 teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw.  

Respectfully - no. 

If the logs are laid out, braced above the ground, and the cuts are
just bucking - then a energetic pair could keep up with a slow
chainsaw.

But that's not how I use my chainsaws.  I fell, limb, and buck.  I have
a medium large saw with an aggressive chain for the big cuts.  It
likely cuts a bit faster than a two-man crosscut when bucking with the
log in an ideal setup.  And it's way faster than a crosscut for felling
and less than ideal bucking. The little chainsaw is used for limbing and
smalling bucking.  No saw or axe can compete for speed.

The chainsaw also requires a lot less effort.  So I can cut more
wood in a given amount of time, and cut more wood before I tire.  More
wood is good.

Sharpening a crosscut saw is not trivial.  To do it right requires a
more tools and a lot more skill than sharpening a chain.  With either,
touching the ground with the teeth is bad.  But a chain can be field
sharpened - or replaced.  Trying to field sharpen a crosscut is
generally a waste of effort and metal.

Now, I like my crosscut saw, and I plan to keep it.  But there is a
reason the professional timber folks don't use crosscut saws except
where the government forbids the use of a chainsaw.

--Philip

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[MBZ] Walnut shell, etc., blastring

Tim, do you know anybody in Triangle area who does walnut shell, soda, light 
sand blasting, etc., in preparation for painting iron/steel items.  We have 
some steel patio furniture (circular table and 8 chairs) that needs painting; 
light rust should be removed before painting, of course.  LIGHT sand blasting 
could probably be OK if operator is careful not to get carried away and do 
too much, especially on table top and chair bottoms and backs where getting too 
aggressive could cut through the steel.  Blasting with nut shells, or soda, 
etc., probably better. 

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Randy Bennell



My experience with a nice wood fireplace is that you lose more heat than 
you gain.
We had one to start in our house and it was sort of nice to have a 
crackling fire with a bit of the smell of woodsmoke but we quickly 
realized we could not use it in really cold weather (when we most likely 
would have) because it sucked all of the heat out of the rest of the 
house. It was warm by the fire but not anywhere else. It made our 
furnace and hot water tank chimney back draft and that smelled awful in 
addition to being unhealthy and unsafe.
We could only use the fireplace with the windows on either side of it 
open and that caused a cold draft that was not pleasant to sit in.
So, after a while, we put in a gas insert. It looks nice and it is fast 
and easy but it is not the same so basically we don't use it.
If it wouldn't be such a big mess, I would remove the whole thing. It's 
primary purpose now is to hold the mantle clock and the stockings at 
Christmas.


Randy

On 14/05/2013 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Dan story:

When I was 10 yeas old, we moved into a house that sat on an acre of lawn with 
an adjoining wooded plot that was around 7-8 acres.

The house had a great room with a vaulted ceiling, and a fireplace made of 
stone that nearly filled one of the walls.

Dad proclaimed when we moved in, I am going to have a fire every night in the 
winter.

When fall came around he informed my older brother and I that we would now be 
spending our fall weekends felling trees and cutting timber for the fireplace.

He went out into the woods with a can of spray paint and marked the trees he 
wanted us to cut down.

So he comes home from work a few days later, having made a stop at Vonneguts, 
our local hardware store.

Anticipation was high between my brother and I, thinking about all the fun we 
were going to have with a chain saw and the resulting damage we would do.

Dad pulls into the garage, pops the trunk of his car, and pulls out

An axe.

An adze.

Some wedges.

(We are just about ready to burst at this point)

.and a Tuttle Tooth Two Man Saw!!!

Whaaa?

Oh, and two new pair of leather work gloves.

So my brother and I spent our October and November weekends felling trees with 
the axe and wedges, and cutting up the lumber with the Tuttle Tooth saw.

I will say that if you have a couple of people who work together well, you can 
do some serious damage with a two man saw.

I sold the saw just a year or two ago. It was as sharp as the day we got it.

Dan who still doesn't have a chain saw, which is probably just as well





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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Rick Knoble

On May 14, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 But there is a
 reason the professional timber folks don't use crosscut saws except
 where the government forbids the use of a chainsaw.


Please don't give these nanny state ass-clowns running OSHA, EPA, etc. any more 
stupid ideas. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

Dan - what did you use the adze for (other than snagging a nice score at
Scrabble)?  I was taught that the adze is an extremely dangerous tool,
since you straddle the log while swinging the blade between your legs. One
sideways deflection and it cuts into a leg.

Andrew

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On May 14, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  But there is a
  reason the professional timber folks don't use crosscut saws except
  where the government forbids the use of a chainsaw.


 Please don't give these nanny state ass-clowns running OSHA, EPA, etc. any
 more stupid ideas.

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-14 Thread clay

Not the one he just got!?!

clay

On May 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Lucky not to hit a deer.  #1 son hit a deer and totaled his Toyota bout 3 
 weeks ago.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:34 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] 300TD travel
 
 
 Folks
 
 I left Athens, GA thursday evening, dragging a 1000 lb letterpress printing 
 press on a trailer behind my 82 300td. I drove to Tybee  Island, spent the 
 night then drove to St. Augstine where i delivered  the machine. THen i 
 turned around and drove directly back to Athens.  This was about 850 miles, 
 all driven on WVO that i was hauling. Speed  was mostly indicated 60 to 70 
 mph with the AC blowing cold cold most  all the trip. I didn't even use any 
 oil. The car performed flawlessly  as it should!
 
 It's CRAZY how many deer there are on the back roads of Georgia in the 
 middle of the night between folkston, ga and athens, ga. I probably  saw 15 
 but there were probably another 30 that i didn't see! THe grass  was tall 
 enough to hide a deer on the shoulders of the road after the  recent rains. 
 After about midnight, i was often the only vehicle for  miles going in 
 either direction. Other than a few trucks, i saw almost  no one for long 
 stretches of time.
 
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

No, the '06 one; 'reason for the new one.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: clay redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

Not the one he just got!?!

clay

On May 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, WILTON wrote:

Lucky not to hit a deer.  #1 son hit a deer and totaled his Toyota bout 3 
weeks ago.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:34 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 300TD travel

Folks

I left Athens, GA thursday evening, dragging a 1000 lb letterpress 
printing press on a trailer behind my 82 300td. I drove to Tybee 
Island, spent the night then drove to St. Augstine where i delivered 
the machine. THen i turned around and drove directly back to Athens. 
This was about 850 miles, all driven on WVO that i was hauling. Speed 
was mostly indicated 60 to 70 mph with the AC blowing cold cold most 
all the trip. I didn't even use any oil. The car performed flawlessly 
as it should!

It's CRAZY how many deer there are on the back roads of Georgia in the 
middle of the night between folkston, ga and athens, ga. I probably  saw 
15 but there were probably another 30 that i didn't see! THe grass  was 
tall enough to hide a deer on the shoulders of the road after the 
recent rains. After about midnight, i was often the only vehicle for 
miles going in either direction. Other than a few trucks, i saw almost 
no one for long stretches of time.

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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[MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread clay

Froggy is not behaving.  But, then again, since when has she?

When I got the car, the tach would swing about wildly in no relation to the 
engine speed.  It would then either pet out or not move at all.  Smack the tach 
face and it might respond.  I knew it was either the amp or the gauge, so 
sourced a fresher gauge.  This new one does sort of respond, but not really.  
It will register only between 1k and 2k rpm, but does move smoothly between 
them in relation to engine speed.

I have poked around the interwebs for a clue as to where the sensor/amp lives.  
I am finding much about OM617 cars and diesel, but not anything related to a 
1974 SL.  Does this thing live on the engine or the transmission?  And where 
should I be looking for the critter?



clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

2013-05-14 Thread clay

Sorry your mother passed.  I am sort of dreading the upcoming Fathers day since 
my dad just passed two weeks ago.  What do you do to honor a missing parent?

clay

On May 12, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Trent Fiorini wrote:

 My Mom, passed, and I'm divorced, Girlfriend is with her Mom, It's quite,
 Life is good...
 
 
 On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, he is just so eager to try to please us that he won't shut it down
 today!
 
 
 
 Sheesh! You guys have Q2 working on MOTHER'S DAY 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

Continue to live by the good principles he/she taught you and tell others 
about them when you get the chance.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: clay redgh...@comcast.net

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

Sorry your mother passed.  I am sort of dreading the upcoming Fathers day 
since my dad just passed two weeks ago.  What do you do to honor a missing 
parent?

clay

On May 12, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Trent Fiorini wrote:

My Mom, passed, and I'm divorced, Girlfriend is with her Mom, It's quite,
Life is good...

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

No, he is just so eager to try to please us that he won't shut it down
today!

Sheesh! You guys have Q2 working on MOTHER'S DAY 

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Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

Be mindful of the example he set for you and what you learned from him (or
didn't).  Share those thoughts with your nearest and dearest.

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Continue to live by the good principles he/she taught you and tell others
 about them when you get the chance.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: clay redgh...@comcast.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors



 Sorry your mother passed.  I am sort of dreading the upcoming Fathers day
 since my dad just passed two weeks ago.  What do you do to honor a missing
 parent?

 clay

 On May 12, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Trent Fiorini wrote:

 My Mom, passed, and I'm divorced, Girlfriend is with her Mom, It's quite,
 Life is good...


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 No, he is just so eager to try to please us that he won't shut it down
 today!



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Re: [MBZ] Honoring those who have passed on

2013-05-14 Thread Randy Bennell

Not much you can do for them but hopefully, your good memories will help 
you deal with it.

My father has been gone since August 1983.
I cannot say that I have been inclined to think much about him on 
Father's Day but I do think of him often.
My younger son (the mechanic) came roaring up to my  garage in the old 
4Runner on Sunday afternoon and dragged out my MIG welder and crawled 
under and welded up something on his muffler that was cracking.
I stood by and watched and could not help but think that my father would 
have been proud of my son. My father was a hands on sort of guy and 
would have appreciated Tom's go ahead and do it attitutde. My father 
passed on before either of my sons was born so he never saw them and 
they never met him. My father in law passed on when they were both quite 
young so they hardly remember him either. Unfortunate but nothing I can 
do much about.


I guess it is fair to say that I honor my father in my own way.

Randy

On 14/05/2013 3:46 PM, clay wrote:

Sorry your mother passed.  I am sort of dreading the upcoming Fathers day since 
my dad just passed two weeks ago.  What do you do to honor a missing parent?

clay

On May 12, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Trent Fiorini wrote:


My Mom, passed, and I'm divorced, Girlfriend is with her Mom, It's quite,
Life is good...






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Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

2013-05-14 Thread Frederick Moir

Remember.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlights now window motors

Sorry your mother passed.  I am sort of dreading the upcoming Fathers day 
since my dad just passed two weeks ago.  What do you do to honor a missing 
parent?

clay

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Frederick Moir

Adze for logging?
They were used to help build the Mayflower replica. Used by holding the butt 
end at crotch level and moving the cutting edge up and down in a controlled 
manner. A skilled artisan can give wood a smoother finish than a plane.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw
 

Dan - what did you use the adze for (other than snagging a nice score at
Scrabble)?  I was taught that the adze is an extremely dangerous tool,
since you straddle the log while swinging the blade between your legs. One
sideways deflection and it cuts into a leg.

Andrew

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On May 14, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  But there is a
  reason the professional timber folks don't use crosscut saws except
  where the government forbids the use of a chainsaw.


 Please don't give these nanny state ass-clowns running OSHA, EPA, etc. any
 more stupid ideas.

 Rick
 Sent from my iPhone




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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-14 Thread Darren Marshall

Looks like Brake Warehouse is going to send me another caliper no questions
asked. Will be sending a return label with to send the crap one back...
wish me luck!

Darren
312-208-4328


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 Yes he would.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 11, 2013, at 9:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  But Trent would just send/exchange a good caliper, wouldn't he?
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper
 
 
  On May 11, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  The stripped threads are actually on the 'new' remanufactured caliper,
 the threads on the line itself are in great shape :/
 
  Will be calling NuGeon first thing Monday... their QC sucks
 
  Here's a pic,
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxqtlxesti6p94g/Photo%20May%2011%2C%208%2007%2038%20PM.png
 
 
  Yup. That would do it. If your supplier tells you to buzz off, you
 might be able to clean up the threads and make it work. Of course, if you'd
 ordered from Trent, he's almost close enough to complain to in person...
 
  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper


'Hope it goes well.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper


Looks like Brake Warehouse is going to send me another caliper no 
questions

asked. Will be sending a return label with to send the crap one back...
wish me luck!

Darren
312-208-4328


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Yes he would.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2013, at 9:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 But Trent would just send/exchange a good caliper, wouldn't he?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble 
 rickkno...@hotmail.com


 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper


 On May 11, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The stripped threads are actually on the 'new' remanufactured 
 caliper,

the threads on the line itself are in great shape :/

 Will be calling NuGeon first thing Monday... their QC sucks

 Here's a pic,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxqtlxesti6p94g/Photo%20May%2011%2C%208%2007%2038%20PM.png


 Yup. That would do it. If your supplier tells you to buzz off, you
might be able to clean up the threads and make it work. Of course, if 
you'd

ordered from Trent, he's almost close enough to complain to in person...

 Rick
 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

What about a tyro?

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Adze for logging?
 They were used to help build the Mayflower replica. Used by holding the
 butt end at crotch level and moving the cutting edge up and down in a
 controlled manner. A skilled artisan can give wood a smoother finish than a
 plane.

 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.


 
  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw
 
 
 Dan - what did you use the adze for (other than snagging a nice score at
 Scrabble)?  I was taught that the adze is an extremely dangerous tool,
 since you straddle the log while swinging the blade between your legs. One
 sideways deflection and it cuts into a leg.
 
 Andrew
 
 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On May 14, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   But there is a
   reason the professional timber folks don't use crosscut saws except
   where the government forbids the use of a chainsaw.
 
 
  Please don't give these nanny state ass-clowns running OSHA, EPA, etc.
 any
  more stupid ideas.
 
  Rick
  Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Max

Hmmm, doesn't a gasser tachometer get the engine speed signal from the 
distributor?  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Froggy is not behaving.  But, then again, since when has she?

When I got the car, the tach would swing about wildly in no relation to
the engine speed.  It would then either pet out or not move at all. 
Smack the tach face and it might respond.  I knew it was either the amp
or the gauge, so sourced a fresher gauge.  This new one does sort of
respond, but not really.  It will register only between 1k and 2k rpm,
but does move smoothly between them in relation to engine speed.

I have poked around the interwebs for a clue as to where the sensor/amp
lives.  I am finding much about OM617 cars and diesel, but not anything
related to a 1974 SL.  Does this thing live on the engine or the
transmission?  And where should I be looking for the critter?



clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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[MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!

2013-05-14 Thread Larry T


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=WFqr3_frh3Q
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Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!

2013-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley


http://youtu.be/9nRqbQr7VGk

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Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!


Now, that's a goodun; I need of 'em.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!

'Nother goodun.  


Wilton

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http://youtu.be/9nRqbQr7VGk

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw - operator age

2013-05-14 Thread David Kristin Gilmore


At 01:12 AM 5/14/2013, Rick Hawkins wrote:

THe best chainsaw that i ever had was an old Poulan pulpwooder's saw,


(snip)


It was a bear to start or even to pick up, to drop while holding the
starter cord to start it. I could do it fine from age 25 to 35, but i
don't know about now, at nearly 59.


 (snip)

 You are on to a basic truth about chain saws they don't mention 
in the sales literature - you need to consider your age.  When I 
first went to reclaiming an old WV farm I was 41.  I could work all 
day clearing fields.  In the 1980's I used Homelite SXLs (and later a 
Stihl 042) with 20 bars.  I sold 50 cords of firewood and several 
hundred fence posts each year in addition to rebuilding a house and 
barn.  Neither my old tractor or truck had power steering.  Septic 
system dug by hand, etc.


 All that sort of thing has changed now that I am 73.  For 
example, my saws are Stihl 026s and next ones are going to be even 
smaller - probably the MS 201 C-E that has the wind up starter 
feature.  I am not complaining.  I am happy that I can still do the 
things I used to do, just not as much at one time.  And I sure enjoy 
that nap after lunch.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

 A man thinks as much with his legs and arms as his brain.

  



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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski

Hm... my first reaction was to say the signal comes from the coil, but its
actually different and more complicated.  See this:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-252.pdf

There is a transmission on the transmission, and there are instructions on
how to test it.

Good luck,
Jaime


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hmmm, doesn't a gasser tachometer get the engine speed signal from the
 distributor?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Froggy is not behaving.  But, then again, since when has she?
 
 When I got the car, the tach would swing about wildly in no relation to
 the engine speed.  It would then either pet out or not move at all.
 Smack the tach face and it might respond.  I knew it was either the amp
 or the gauge, so sourced a fresher gauge.  This new one does sort of
 respond, but not really.  It will register only between 1k and 2k rpm,
 but does move smoothly between them in relation to engine speed.
 
 I have poked around the interwebs for a clue as to where the sensor/amp
 lives.  I am finding much about OM617 cars and diesel, but not anything
 related to a 1974 SL.  Does this thing live on the engine or the
 transmission?  And where should I be looking for the critter?
 
 
 
 clay
 
 
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Great Auto Anti-Theft Device!


nother un.  Diesel content.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi5DPg_iEYs

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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski

Er, that should read, transmitter on the transmission.  Right.


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hm... my first reaction was to say the signal comes from the coil, but its
 actually different and more complicated.  See this:
 http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-252.pdf

 There is a transmission on the transmission, and there are instructions on
 how to test it.

 Good luck,
 Jaime


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hmmm, doesn't a gasser tachometer get the engine speed signal from the
 distributor?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Froggy is not behaving.  But, then again, since when has she?
 
 When I got the car, the tach would swing about wildly in no relation to
 the engine speed.  It would then either pet out or not move at all.
 Smack the tach face and it might respond.  I knew it was either the amp
 or the gauge, so sourced a fresher gauge.  This new one does sort of
 respond, but not really.  It will register only between 1k and 2k rpm,
 but does move smoothly between them in relation to engine speed.
 
 I have poked around the interwebs for a clue as to where the sensor/amp
 lives.  I am finding much about OM617 cars and diesel, but not anything
 related to a 1974 SL.  Does this thing live on the engine or the
 transmission?  And where should I be looking for the critter?
 
 
 
 clay
 
 
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

On Tue, 14 May 2013 19:10:12 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Er, that should read, transmitter on the transmission.  Right.

That's OK, Jaime, we all have our off days. For me, there have been a lot
of them lately. :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Scott Ritchey

You know, this looks and reads suspiciously like the speedo, not the tach.

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Kopchinski
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

Er, that should read, transmitter on the transmission.  Right.

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hm... my first reaction was to say the signal comes from the coil, but its
 actually different and more complicated.  See this:

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-252.pdf

 There is a transmission on the transmission, and there are instructions on
 how to test it.

 Good luck,
 Jaime

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hmmm, doesn't a gasser tachometer get the engine speed signal from the
 distributor?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw - operator age

I started cutting wood with an old 40s vintage Mc Collough that 
weighed close to 30 lb.  I was probably 12 or 14 then. At first the 
saw was almost as big as me.   Cut a lot of oak firewood with that. 
Paid for my first car hauling firewood with a 47 chevy truck.  Once 
you got the saw on the limb, it did the work.  The work was in 
lifting the saw, splitting the wood and pitching it onto the trailer, 
then to the pile, then on the truck, and then off the truck and in 
most cases, stacking it at the customer's house.


I cut two massive red oaks with a 16 Homelite Super 2.  32-36 at 
the felling cut.  Each made 2 or 3 16 to 20' saw logs.  Had all that 
sawed into 1x3s for tg flooring.


I cut a couple of massive pines next to garages with a 12 stihl 
24 dia logs.  One made 5 8' sawlogs and the rest was firewood.  The 
other made 4 or 5 sawlogs.


Saws are a lot lighter and smaller now.  I see no reason to have more 
than a 16 bar in most cases, unless you are using the saw daily. 
(or unless you have a really big maple tree you have to cut.)  I was 
fortunate in that my scoutmaster was a forester.  We learned a lot 
about woodsmanship and safe ways to work with knives, axes, saws and 
the proper way to plan how to drop a tree.  I don't drop a lot of 
trees, but when I do, they go where I want, because I have studied 
the tree, terrain and always have a clear escape path.


There is no reason to be frightened of a chainsaw.  There is reason 
to understand it and respect the tool.


Yes, they can be dangerous if you don't master and control the tool. 
I had a dufus neighbor who climbed up in a tree and cut his leg with 
the chainsaw and bled to death.  Can you say Darwin?  He was a 
slicker who thought he wanted to be a farmer.


And Yes, I have hired a pro to take down a few troublesome trees. 
When you get a good one, it is amazing how fast and efficient they 
are.  My guy used only saws, ropes and a guy on the ground.  Just 
whistles or hand signals.  No shouting.   Asplunderers are butchers 
only good at clearing power company ROW.


I like Stihl if you use it a lot.  Poulans are ok for occasional use. 
An old homelite from the 70s or before is a good saw too.  Super EZ 
or XL2.  I think husky or jonseys are good, but never had one.


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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Scott Ritchey


Supplemental:  Since the transducer is near the flex disk, I'm sure it's the
transmission output signal (speed) not, engine RPM.  Here's an excerpt from
a gasser ETM which shows the tach signal coming from the ignition circuit:

http://Pt709.synology.me/tach.jpg



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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp


You know, this looks and reads suspiciously like the speedo, not the tach.

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
Kopchinski
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

Er, that should read, transmitter on the transmission.  Right.


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hm... my first reaction was to say the signal comes from the coil, but its
 actually different and more complicated.  See this:

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-252.pdf

 There is a transmission on the transmission, and there are instructions on
 how to test it.

 Good luck,
 Jaime


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hmmm, doesn't a gasser tachometer get the engine speed signal from the
 distributor?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20




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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Jaime Kopchinski

Hm, yes it does.

And heres the proof they're talking about the speedo:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-259.pdf

So, in these old manuals:
 - Tachometer = Speedometer
 - Revolution Counter = Tachometer

Lets look at this again, this time the ETM:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/ETM/74etm.pdf

Look at page 6 of that PDF file... thats Page 4-3, D22.

Looks like the signal from the tach comes right from the breaker points via
a green/black wire.

Follow that to page 13, which is 4-7 E23, the same green/black wire goes
right to the tach.

By the way, the index for all these pdfs starts here:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/?requestedDocId=11883

Jaime



On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 You know, this looks and reads suspiciously like the speedo, not the tach.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
 Kopchinski
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:10 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

 Er, that should read, transmitter on the transmission.  Right.


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hm... my first reaction was to say the signal comes from the coil, but
 its
  actually different and more complicated.  See this:
 
 http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-252.pdf
 
  There is a transmission on the transmission, and there are instructions
 on
  how to test it.
 
  Good luck,
  Jaime
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
  Hmmm, doesn't a gasser tachometer get the engine speed signal from the
  distributor?
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  Charleston, SC
  '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 



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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Allan Streib

Reminds me of how wood keeps you warm:

Warms you when you cut it
Warms you when you split it
Warms you when you stack it
Warms you when you haul it
Warms you when you (finally) burn it.

Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes:

Dan story:

When I was 10 yeas old, we moved into a house that sat on an acre of lawn
with an adjoining wooded plot that was around 7-8 acres.

The house had a great room with a vaulted ceiling, and a fireplace made of
stone that nearly filled one of the walls.

Dad proclaimed when we moved in, I am going to have a fire every night in
the winter.

When fall came around he informed my older brother and I that we would now be
spending our fall weekends felling trees and cutting timber for the fireplace.

He went out into the woods with a can of spray paint and marked the trees he
wanted us to cut down.

So he comes home from work a few days later, having made a stop at Vonneguts,
our local hardware store.

Anticipation was high between my brother and I, thinking about all the fun we
were going to have with a chain saw and the resulting damage we would do.

Dad pulls into the garage, pops the trunk of his car, and pulls out

An axe.

An adze.

Some wedges.

(We are just about ready to burst at this point)

.and a Tuttle Tooth Two Man Saw!!!

Whaaa?

Oh, and two new pair of leather work gloves.

So my brother and I spent our October and November weekends felling trees
with the axe and wedges, and cutting up the lumber with the Tuttle Tooth saw.

I will say that if you have a couple of people who work together well, you
can do some serious damage with a two man saw.

I sold the saw just a year or two ago. It was as sharp as the day we got it.

Dan who still doesn't have a chain saw, which is probably just as well

On May 14, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

A good, well sharpened two man saw with the vertical handles and raker
teeth can keep up with a gas powered chain saw. Much less dangerous, plus
it builds team spirit to operate.

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote:

thanks,
Folks,

I think they are supposed to be incredibly dangerous. Are they even still
made. I had mine back in the late 70's to mid 80's when i heated with wood.

I got the machine from my local chainsaw repair guy who would always sell
me interesting saws that needed a little work.

I think, that sadly, it was stolen at some point.

I usually start them with starting fluid for the little bit of cutting
that i have to do, normally. Now i have a big tree that i had a crazy guy
take down and need to cut up the limbs on the ground.

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

www.javaphoto.com
www.javacycles.com
LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE
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www.letterpressmachinery.com

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Frederick Moir

Soprano in the making?

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

What about a tyro?

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Adze for logging?
 They were used to help build the Mayflower replica. Used by holding the
 butt end at crotch level and moving the cutting edge up and down in a
 controlled manner. A skilled artisan can give wood a smoother finish than a
 plane.

 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.

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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Max

Thanks guys, learn something everyday!

Now hopefully Clay's malfunctioning tachometer will yield and succumb to repair.
-- 
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Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

Hm, yes it does.

And heres the proof they're talking about the speedo:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-259.pdf

So, in these old manuals:
 - Tachometer = Speedometer
 - Revolution Counter = Tachometer

Lets look at this again, this time the ETM:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/ETM/74etm.pdf

Look at page 6 of that PDF file... thats Page 4-3, D22.

Looks like the signal from the tach comes right from the breaker points
via
a green/black wire.

Follow that to page 13, which is 4-7 E23, the same green/black wire
goes
right to the tach.

By the way, the index for all these pdfs starts here:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/?requestedDocId=11883

Jaime



On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
wrote:


 You know, this looks and reads suspiciously like the speedo, not the
tach.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
Jaime
 Kopchinski
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:10 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

 Er, that should read, transmitter on the transmission.  Right.


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hm... my first reaction was to say the signal comes from the coil,
but
 its
  actually different and more complicated.  See this:
 

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Chassis/54-252.pdf
 
  There is a transmission on the transmission, and there are
instructions
 on
  how to test it.
 
  Good luck,
  Jaime
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
 
  Hmmm, doesn't a gasser tachometer get the engine speed signal from
the
  distributor?
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston, SC
  '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 



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Re: [MBZ] Honoring those who have passed on

2013-05-14 Thread Mountain Man

Randy wrote:
 My father has been gone since August 1983.

My father has been gone since August 1983 also, fwiw...
mao
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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond

You're right about the fireplace but yours is also built poorly. In a tight 
modern house you need a source of makeup air, this should not be leaving a 
window open, thats silly. There should be an air inlet just below the fireplace 
opening which allows outside air in a controlled manner.

There are loads of woodburning fireplace inserts which raise the terrible 
inefficiencies of the fireplace. The best, of course, is a real woodstove which 
sits into the room rather than trying to reflect heat into the room.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:56:05 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw
Message-ID: 519288c5.30...@bennell.ca
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My experience with a nice wood fireplace is that you lose more heat than 
you gain.
We had one to start in our house and it was sort of nice to have a 
crackling fire with a bit of the smell of woodsmoke but we quickly 
realized we could not use it in really cold weather (when we most likely 
would have) because it sucked all of the heat out of the rest of the 
house. It was warm by the fire but not anywhere else. It made our 
furnace and hot water tank chimney back draft and that smelled awful in 
addition to being unhealthy and unsafe.
We could only use the fireplace with the windows on either side of it 
open and that caused a cold draft that was not pleasant to sit in.
So, after a while, we put in a gas insert. It looks nice and it is fast 
and easy but it is not the same so basically we don't use it.
If it wouldn't be such a big mess, I would remove the whole thing. It's 
primary purpose now is to hold the mantle clock and the stockings at 
Christmas.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw

2013-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond

Where I've seen them forbidden its because of fire danger, not nanny state, or 
less because of nanny state anyway.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:57:31 -0500
From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best chain saw
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On May 14, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 But there is a
 reason the professional timber folks don't use crosscut saws except
 where the government forbids the use of a chainsaw.

Please don't give these nanny state ass-clowns running OSHA, EPA, etc. any more 
stupid ideas. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw




Where I've seen them forbidden its because of fire danger, not nanny 
state, or less because of nanny state anyway.


-Curt


If they'd sho ot Smokey da bear, and let fires burn naturally, they 
would not have such fire hazards.


(big fan of controlled burns.  Been doing it since before the term 
was invented)


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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-14 Thread Rick Knoble

On May 14, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like Brake Warehouse is going to send me another caliper no questions
 asked. Will be sending a return label with to send the crap one back...
 wish me luck!


Needless to say, closely inspect all threads, and chase them if need be. 

Rick
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[MBZ] OM603 fan clutch


Alles,

The fan on one of my 603s is getting noisy.  I found a clutch and fan 
from an M104 3 Liter gasser.  I am wondering if the fan and clutch 
will work reasonably well on the 3 liter Diesel.  That is Q1.


The second question is:  Is it possible to replace the bearings on 
the fan clutch?  I seem to remember a link to an article where 
someone did this.  I know several of you have replaced the fluid in 
the clutch.


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Re: [MBZ] Honoring those who have passed on

Mine since Oct '55.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Honoring those who have passed on

Randy wrote:

My father has been gone since August 1983.

My father has been gone since August 1983 also, fwiw...
mao
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick

Nope, totally different design.  If a replacement clutch doesn't fix  
the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water  
pump on the diesels.  On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water  
pump is on the other side.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:03:58 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 Nope, totally different design.  If a replacement clutch doesn't fix  
 the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water  
 pump on the diesels.  On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water  
 pump is on the other side.

Is it possible to remove the clutch and fan, leaving only the water pump,
so you can run the engine and see if the water pump is the problem?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] the missing

 Sorry to hear about the problems, but glad to hear that you made it
 through. The more I hear about hospital experiences, the more I think that
 we have great medical care in this country, if they don't kill you first.
 
 --
 OK Don..
 
Thank you for the kind thoughts. Today was to be the day of the second 
stent installation but everything was cancelled because of a recurrence of the 
UTI Sunday and I've been bedbound until today.

Sometimes a guy just can't catch a break, to coin phrase.

RLE 

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick

Yes, just take the bolt out of the center.  If you loosen the belt  
(easy on a 603) you can tell if  the water pump is bad.  Usually leaks  
if the bearings are out of it though.


If the fan clutch rattles, replace it.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] THE MISSING

 Ditto.  Best wishes and here's hoping you get to detailing the 
 C-class
 sooner rather than later.  What's the point of life, after all, if you
 can't mess around with old cars?
 
 Alex..
 
Thanks. I can hardly bear to look at. My first car task will be the 
replacement of the RF tire (Bridgestone DW, new last fall, now with a blown out 
sidewall) and repair of the gouged 18X8 AMG wheel which 
occured when I hit a city owned snow chuckhole on 2/22. After dark, 37 
degrees and nobody around. I got the spare on with the usual difficulty since 
the jack had never been out of the spare tire well. I thought I was faced with 
a wheel replacement ($1250) but   it looks like my dealer's wheel guy can 
fix it since it's so close to the edge. I've had one of my 17 winter tires 
(OE wheels) on the car so I could drive it. The 28 1/2 year old 944 needs a 
little dusting off too but it's been on a battery maintainer since last 
September so it's mostly ready to fire up.

You are right, spending time messing with the cars is is time well spent.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch


On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:03:58 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 Nope, totally different design.  If a replacement clutch doesn't fix 
 the noise, you have a bad water pump, as the fan attaches to the water 
 pump on the diesels.  On the gassers, it's sitting on a bearing, water 
 pump is on the other side.


Is it possible to remove the clutch and fan, leaving only the water pump,
so you can run the engine and see if the water pump is the problem?

Craig


Done.  It is the fan.  Don't want it to go through the radiator...

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Re: [MBZ] Tachometer Amp

2013-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey


where the sensor/amp lives.


No sensor, no amp.  It vampires off of the ignition signal.
You _need_ a car schematic!  There are ones in Haynes, if
nowhere else.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] THE MISSING

2013-05-14 Thread Gerry Archer


Hang in there, Roger, we're all pulling for you.
Gerry

From: relng...@aol.com



Ditto. Best wishes and here's hoping you get to detailing the
C-class
sooner rather than later. What's the point of life, after all, if you
can't mess around with old cars?

Alex..


Thanks. I can hardly bear to look at. My first car task will be the
replacement of the RF tire (Bridgestone DW, new last fall, now with a blown 
out

sidewall) and repair of the gouged 18X8 AMG wheel which
occured when I hit a city owned snow chuckhole on 2/22. After dark, 37
degrees and nobody around. I got the spare on with the usual difficulty 
since
the jack had never been out of the spare tire well. I thought I was faced 
with

a wheel replacement ($1250) but   it looks like my dealer's wheel guy can
fix it since it's so close to the edge. I've had one of my 17 winter tires
(OE wheels) on the car so I could drive it. The 28 1/2 year old 944 needs a
little dusting off too but it's been on a battery maintainer since last
September so it's mostly ready to fire up.

You are right, spending time messing with the cars is is time well spent.

RLE




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Re: [MBZ] THE MISSING

On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:44:47 -0400 Gerry Archer
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Hang in there, Roger, we're all pulling for you.
 Gerry

Yes, indeed.


Craig
Who is recovering from neck surgery in March.

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

2013-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey


Is it possible to replace the bearings on the fan clutch?


I did on a 450 engine's clutch that is now in the Frankenheap.
It looked particularly rebuildable, which is why I dug into it.
After I finished I figured out that it was not thermostatic,
and only RPM-driven.  Not really what I wanted.

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/frankenheap.html#8Mar2012

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 fan clutch

On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:36:04 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it possible to remove the clutch and fan, leaving only the water
 pump, so you can run the engine and see if the water pump is the
 problem?
 
 Craig
 
 Done.  It is the fan.  Don't want it to go through the radiator...

That is a very good thing to keep from happening!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] the missing

 ...Hang in there, Roger, we're all pulling for you.
 Gerry...
 
Thank you, Red Green.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] memory of the missing