Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news
The lower half of the IP is oiled by the engine oil system. If the seals on the plungers fail, it's quite possible for fuel to get into the oil, usually with bad results. Cure is replacement or rebuild of IP. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kick down switch
I had similar problems with my 123 years ago. Started in 2nd and shifted up way to soon. Turned out the kickdown cable was out of adjustment. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Don, Man! I hope not! This AT is only 25 months old (with a 24 month warranty) - Rusty said he had sold about 3000 and only had 3 problems- 2 of them were installer problems and 1 was a easy external fix The AT was around 1400 plus 550 to install for $2k I would hope to get more than 2 years out of it! I'm still hoping for a easy fix but it doesn't seem to be shifting into 1st even when pulling gear lever all the way back. I need to ask Sun valley another question and tell them about it not going into 1st using the shift lever... Thx LarryT 91 300D On 7/18/2013 8:52 PM, OK Don wrote: I do fear that you have deeper tranny issues __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb
It has R12. They said it's the longest lasting coldest option. On Jul 20, 2013, at 7:00 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:17:47 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: R12 if original otherwise 134 The question was addressed to Joe Sasser as to what his 126 now has. Craig Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:12:32 -0500 Joe Sasser joesas...@mac.com wrote: Interested in having that w126 back? It's got a rebuilt transmission with less than 10k miles on it, completely new AC system (so virgin, was asked if I wanted R12 or 134), and a new engine with 125k miles on it (strong runner). So, of the choice of R12 or R134, which did you choose? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
I can agree it is not fish oil. That is no problem. I read the MSDS and it does not agree with what Snopes said. Simple. Read it yourself. I am also the one who posted the link from WD40 saying it is not fish oil so I am not still arguing that point. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So you're clinging to Aliphatic Hydrocarbon which they say (per snopes) is Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic? I think thats the lamest ass argument I've ever heard. If you had something, ANYTHING that was reasonable I'd listen but this is the kind of argument a little kid thats losing an argument badly makes. Go camp out at the WD40 factory and catch a picture of a truck dripping a little water. Claim the water smells like fish and I'll give you a little credence. -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:13:59 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) Message-ID: CALHJ_1AgQpMckMEYFbw8Sgg8Z9=zmo7lxpul-rurvo9caaz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All I am saying is that is does not say what they say it says. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The MSDS doesn't say it IS fish oil so you haven't provided any proof either... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Houghton College says no
He can complain to his charges and they probably get a kick out of it because someone is talking to them. --R On 7/19/13 10:53 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: My fil is a miserable old bastard who wants to complain about everything and its interesting to talk to him about this job because he obviously enjoys it and it seems to pay reasonably well for a guy who never finished high school and has a GED ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb
It has R12. They said it's the longest lasting coldest option. Probably, yes. The test refrigerant is pretty good on those points, too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4 Mercedes * Package Deal* $4200
Does the crusher deduct for non-metal, e.g. plastic interiors? On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Probably because the price was so high. It was up to $220 or more a ton and I was crushing 116's and 123s whole with most parts still installed as fast as I could there for a while. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Business sources say there is a worldwide glut of steel. Gerry On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: It's down? Last time I crushed it was way up My kid scraps once in a while and he said it's down a bit. Of course he is a kid, so... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Michelin tire recall
Michelin announces voluntary recall of 100K tires By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER AP Business Writer Michelin is voluntarily recalling 100,000 tires after a retailer discovered that some had holes and quickly deflated. The recall affects certain sizes of Michelin's LTX M/S 2, X Radial LT2 and Latitude Tour tires. The tires are typically used on light trucks and SUVs. The puncture, in the sidewall, was caused by machines used to handle the finished tires. The tires were made in Michelin's Lexington, S.C. plant. There have been no reports of damage, death or injury. Michelin says about 2,500 of the recalled tires may have the defect. Customers who may have purchased the tires will be notified by mail beginning next week. Customers who have already replaced the tires may be reimbursed. Owners can contact Michelin at 1-855-851-4951 or http://www.michelinman.com/voluntarysafetyrecall ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A Jaime green car
I am seriously thinking about making the guy am offer, it appears to have rust though http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Michelin tire recall
I have a screw in one of my tires in the center of the tread that has been there probably for months. Should I leave it alone or have a gas station plug it? On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Michelin announces voluntary recall of 100K tires By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER AP Business Writer Michelin is voluntarily recalling 100,000 tires after a retailer discovered that some had holes and quickly deflated. The recall affects certain sizes of Michelin's LTX M/S 2, X Radial LT2 and Latitude Tour tires. The tires are typically used on light trucks and SUVs. The puncture, in the sidewall, was caused by machines used to handle the finished tires. The tires were made in Michelin's Lexington, S.C. plant. There have been no reports of damage, death or injury. Michelin says about 2,500 of the recalled tires may have the defect. Customers who may have purchased the tires will be notified by mail beginning next week. Customers who have already replaced the tires may be reimbursed. Owners can contact Michelin at 1-855-851-4951 or http://www.michelinman.com/**voluntarysafetyrecallhttp://www.michelinman.com/voluntarysafetyrecall __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
Rare color and definitely interesting. I would ask the seller for a list of what's WRONG with the car, rather than what works. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin kaleb.strip...@drivedominion.com wrote: I am seriously thinking about making the guy am offer, it appears to have rust though http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4 Mercedes * Package Deal* $4200
No Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Does the crusher deduct for non-metal, e.g. plastic interiors? On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Probably because the price was so high. It was up to $220 or more a ton and I was crushing 116's and 123s whole with most parts still installed as fast as I could there for a while. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Business sources say there is a worldwide glut of steel. Gerry On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: It's down? Last time I crushed it was way up My kid scraps once in a while and he said it's down a bit. Of course he is a kid, so... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Michelin tire recall
You should have it patched, though I did see something on tv just the other day about how you should have it plugged and patched Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have a screw in one of my tires in the center of the tread that has been there probably for months. Should I leave it alone or have a gas station plug it? On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Michelin announces voluntary recall of 100K tires By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER AP Business Writer Michelin is voluntarily recalling 100,000 tires after a retailer discovered that some had holes and quickly deflated. The recall affects certain sizes of Michelin's LTX M/S 2, X Radial LT2 and Latitude Tour tires. The tires are typically used on light trucks and SUVs. The puncture, in the sidewall, was caused by machines used to handle the finished tires. The tires were made in Michelin's Lexington, S.C. plant. There have been no reports of damage, death or injury. Michelin says about 2,500 of the recalled tires may have the defect. Customers who may have purchased the tires will be notified by mail beginning next week. Customers who have already replaced the tires may be reimbursed. Owners can contact Michelin at 1-855-851-4951 or http://www.michelinman.com/**voluntarysafetyrecallhttp://www.michelinman.com/voluntarysafetyrecall __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4 Mercedes * Package Deal* $4200
No. Most allow you to stuff them right full of junk of all varieties to add weight. Mike On Jul 20, 2013 12:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Does the crusher deduct for non-metal, e.g. plastic interiors? On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Probably because the price was so high. It was up to $220 or more a ton and I was crushing 116's and 123s whole with most parts still installed as fast as I could there for a while. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Business sources say there is a worldwide glut of steel. Gerry On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: It's down? Last time I crushed it was way up My kid scraps once in a while and he said it's down a bit. Of course he is a kid, so... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4 Mercedes * Package Deal* $4200
When I take a car down I fill them up with all the various scrap metal and other scrap I can get in it. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: No. Most allow you to stuff them right full of junk of all varieties to add weight. Mike On Jul 20, 2013 12:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Does the crusher deduct for non-metal, e.g. plastic interiors? On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Probably because the price was so high. It was up to $220 or more a ton and I was crushing 116's and 123s whole with most parts still installed as fast as I could there for a while. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Business sources say there is a worldwide glut of steel. Gerry On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: It's down? Last time I crushed it was way up My kid scraps once in a while and he said it's down a bit. Of course he is a kid, so... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Michelin tire recall
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:40:49 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should have it patched, though I did see something on tv just the other day about how you should have it plugged and patched Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have a screw in one of my tires in the center of the tread that has been there probably for months. Should I leave it alone or have a gas station plug it? Kaleb is correct, you do not want to have the hole merely plugged. That will leave you a slow leak that will get very annoying. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
Very interesting car... definitely a custom order. Its a shame the back seat is so bad... might be too far gone to repair. Orthopedic seats! Jaime On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin kaleb.strip...@drivedominion.com wrote: I am seriously thinking about making the guy am offer, it appears to have rust though http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
Does it have ortho seats? Back seat appears to just need pads, can't really tell if the covers are screwed. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting car... definitely a custom order. Its a shame the back seat is so bad... might be too far gone to repair. Orthopedic seats! Jaime On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin kaleb.strip...@drivedominion.com wrote: I am seriously thinking about making the guy am offer, it appears to have rust though http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
I think he wants way too much for it too. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting car... definitely a custom order. Its a shame the back seat is so bad... might be too far gone to repair. Orthopedic seats! Jaime On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin kaleb.strip...@drivedominion.com wrote: I am seriously thinking about making the guy am offer, it appears to have rust though http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Rare color and definitely interesting. I would ask the seller for a list of what's WRONG with the car, rather than what works. Well, it's a W116, so you know that it has a terminal case of rust and the climate controls don't work, regardless of what the seller says. And it's an OM617, so you know that it has been run hard and put away wet, because everyone knows those engines run forever with no maintenance. Call me cynical, but I have just about stopped going to look at old cars for the time being because of so many mendacious, malicious, or just plain moronic sellers. I think the last straw was the guy with a 123 240D who told me on the phone that the heat and A/C in the car worked just fine. When I got there, there was no belt on the A/C compressor, and the heat was blowing full force all the time regardless of the control settings--he told me that the way to control the temperature was by opening and closing the dash vents. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
Think it's worth $1800? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I think he wants way too much for it too. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting car... definitely a custom order. Its a shame the back seat is so bad... might be too far gone to repair. Orthopedic seats! Jaime On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin kaleb.strip...@drivedominion.com wrote: I am seriously thinking about making the guy am offer, it appears to have rust though http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4 Mercedes * Package Deal* $4200
Cool! On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: When I take a car down I fill them up with all the various scrap metal and other scrap I can get in it. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: No. Most allow you to stuff them right full of junk of all varieties to add weight. Mike On Jul 20, 2013 12:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Does the crusher deduct for non-metal, e.g. plastic interiors? On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Probably because the price was so high. It was up to $220 or more a ton and I was crushing 116's and 123s whole with most parts still installed as fast as I could there for a while. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Business sources say there is a worldwide glut of steel. Gerry On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: It's down? Last time I crushed it was way up My kid scraps once in a while and he said it's down a bit. Of course he is a kid, so... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Houghton College says no
Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: I was surprised to receive an email today from the Chairman of Houghton College's search committee saying, [standard rejection letter] [...] I called the Chairman of the search committee and the Chairman of the department and left voicemails for them saying I wanted to talk with them about why I fell short and how I could improve my chances for other positions. I don't want to dash your hopes but I doubt you'll hear anything. The college HR department will have rules on communicating with potential hires, and in the case of a no-hire decision they are going to follow a strict formula designed to limit the unintentional disclosure of any information that could later be used in a discrimiation charge. Thus the boilerplate letter they sent you. It's nothing personal and not a reflection on your performance at the interview. They could have had any number of reasons for their decision and they are not going to disclose them to you. Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news
I need you to send a trailer or maybe come out and replace the strut and drive back to okie land. I have no space to park it long term. Take it home for $1500 clay On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I need that car if you want to get rid of it let me know Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:29 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: maybe you can hook up my OM606. Need to find it a new home. Biggest issue at the moment is to reconstruct suspension on the driver side. Then toss sheet metal at it. Suspension trouble is what keeps it from being a driver clay On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:53 PM, WILTON wrote: We may do that. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news I got a trailer and $500, can be there soon... I'll bring Max. --R On 7/16/13 9:46 PM, WILTON wrote: I don't plan to do any more to it. I'm not physically able to do much to it myself, and I'm not gonna pay a fortune for somebody else to do so. Wilton - Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Interesting. So do head gaskets fail suddenly rather than gradually in the rodbender scenarios? Could the fact that you caught it early have saved the engine from bending a rod? If I recall correctly the problem happens at no.1 cylinder. Will you do a compression test to confirm location at the cylinder? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:03 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Michelin tire recall
They plug it from the INSIDE then put a patch over the plug, That will hold up fine. You should deal with it, those screws will eventually work out or through and leave you with a flat at the most inopportune time or place. --R On 7/20/13 2:41 PM, Craig wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:40:49 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should have it patched, though I did see something on tv just the other day about how you should have it plugged and patched Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have a screw in one of my tires in the center of the tread that has been there probably for months. Should I leave it alone or have a gas station plug it? Kaleb is correct, you do not want to have the hole merely plugged. That will leave you a slow leak that will get very annoying. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Michelin tire recall
On Jul 20, 2013 9:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have a screw in one of my tires in the center of the tread that has been there probably for months. Should I leave it alone or have a gas station plug it? Just slather some cat poop over it and you'll be fine. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Michelin tire recall
Now the tire factory in france can pump out tires instead of keeping the laborers sitting around demanding the place stay open with no work to do On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Michelin announces voluntary recall of 100K tires By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER AP Business Writer Michelin is voluntarily recalling 100,000 tires after a retailer discovered that some had holes and quickly deflated. The recall affects certain sizes of Michelin's LTX M/S 2, X Radial LT2 and Latitude Tour tires. The tires are typically used on light trucks and SUVs. The puncture, in the sidewall, was caused by machines used to handle the finished tires. The tires were made in Michelin's Lexington, S.C. plant. There have been no reports of damage, death or injury. Michelin says about 2,500 of the recalled tires may have the defect. Customers who may have purchased the tires will be notified by mail beginning next week. Customers who have already replaced the tires may be reimbursed. Owners can contact Michelin at 1-855-851-4951 or http://www.michelinman.com/voluntarysafetyrecall ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Michelin tire recall
Our SC tire makers don't have no commie union though. --R On 7/20/13 4:55 PM, clay wrote: Now the tire factory in france can pump out tires instead of keeping the laborers sitting around demanding the place stay open with no work to do On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Michelin announces voluntary recall of 100K tires By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER AP Business Writer Michelin is voluntarily recalling 100,000 tires after a retailer discovered that some had holes and quickly deflated. The recall affects certain sizes of Michelin's LTX M/S 2, X Radial LT2 and Latitude Tour tires. The tires are typically used on light trucks and SUVs. The puncture, in the sidewall, was caused by machines used to handle the finished tires. The tires were made in Michelin's Lexington, S.C. plant. There have been no reports of damage, death or injury. Michelin says about 2,500 of the recalled tires may have the defect. Customers who may have purchased the tires will be notified by mail beginning next week. Customers who have already replaced the tires may be reimbursed. Owners can contact Michelin at 1-855-851-4951 or http://www.michelinman.com/voluntarysafetyrecall ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Michelin tire recall
Plug, patch, and add sealant :) No more flats! Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) On 7/20/2013 11:40 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: about how you should have it plugged and patched Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kick down switch
Question - the Kickdown switch under the acelerator pedal - how much movement should it have? I tinkered with it and it only moved about 1/16 of a inch. I expected 1/4 or so but I've never had to work on one before... Comments?? BTW, having new grommets on the shift rod makes a huge difference in the noise level and shift accuracy - even on a automatic..I think the front grommet was hanging by a thread when I was trying to fix the rear one. and it came off completely when I worked on the rear. speaking of installer errors - Sadlly, if the AT must come out again Sun Valley will not pay the RR labor - $550 in my case. anybody?? LarryT 91 300D On 7/19/2013 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: One of those installer problems was my buddy's 79 450SL. His tranny was going bad, he bought one from Rusty and had the local well-known indie in Houston replace it. They managed to bugger it up somehow I don't remember, got another one and it is still fine. --R On 7/19/13 7:48 AM, Larry T wrote: Hi Don, Man! I hope not! This AT is only 25 months old (with a 24 month warranty) - Rusty said he had sold about 3000 and only had 3 problems- 2 of them were installer problems and 1 was a easy external fix The AT was around 1400 plus 550 to install for $2k I would hope to get more than 2 years out of it! I'm still hoping for a easy fix but it doesn't seem to be shifting into 1st even when pulling gear lever all the way back. I need to ask Sun valley another question and tell them about it not going into 1st using the shift lever... Thx LarryT 91 300D On 7/18/2013 8:52 PM, OK Don wrote: I do fear that you have deeper tranny issues ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
you can say the same thing about win8 IMO!! change for the sake of change! Typical MS bs! LarryT 91 300D On 7/19/2013 8:52 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: 10.8 is the most Microsoft like screwup of an OS Apple has ever made. They've moved stuff around just for the sake of moving it. Its a drag. 10.6 was the last really good OS Apple made but of course every time they rev the hardware they force you into a new OS. -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:49:08 -0500 From: M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer Message-ID: a06240803ce0e6797d0e8@[192.168.1.64] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed At 6:48 PM -0700 7/18/13, Jim Cathey wrote: Error code says TCP/IP is not working on my Win7 computer. Anyone know of a fix that's simple and easy? Mac OS 10. +1 -MMM- Mac jockey since 1985 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
Very true! We all learned various OS's, Office Suites, etc and now we get new software that has changed for no logical reason other than the manufacturer wanted changes to justify a new product. I cold live with MS Word of 1997 quite happily thank you, but MS keeps adding something new called functionality - even though 90% of people never use that stuff. Same for excel and Access, etc. I learned what I needed to do my job and after that it was icing on the cake, IMO. i'm some can justify bar and pie charts that can be fancier than we made in 97 - although we managed to do all that was needed - yet we get more and more changes - all with new commands we mus learn. ;-) Larryt On 7/19/2013 11:48 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm still learning the OS (again) but stuff like not having a link to the finder on the desktop nor having a handy keyboard shortcut drives me batty. Stuff that you used to do in 2 clicks now takes 5... I also hate that they reversed the functionality of the F keys, used to be you did function- Fkey to get volume and whatnot, now its function Fkey to get the actual Fkey function (like F5 to refresh a page in a web browser). The mac apologists say oh well you can change the behavior back but my point is it was fine before and now I need to change the thing to make it do what it used to do just fine... /RANT -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:18:30 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer Message-ID: a062408b3ce0eecd72a7e@[192.168.0.115] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed 10.8 is the most Microsoft like screwup of an OS Apple has ever made. They've moved stuff around just for the sake of moving it. Its a drag. 10.6 was the last really good OS Apple made but of course every time they rev the hardware they force you into a new OS. -Curt Interesting. Guess I should hang on to my 10.6 macbook a while longer. I have no complaints about this one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD- 40 Snopes
there has been some recent accusations that Snopes is not as non-partisan as they claim -- when quoting them make sure there's not a unstated reason for them to take the position they have. LarryT On 7/19/2013 3:25 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: My only problem with Snopes and the fish oil thing is that the info they state is NOT what it says on the MSDS for WD40! All of you keep arguing and quoting Snopes. Look at the MSDS yourself. Mike On Jul 11, 2013 11:52 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Rich wrote: Funny, I juwt read this thread then see my uncle has posted this on his FB: I NEVER KNEW THIS! Some of those are not so smart. Others I plain don't believe. (Statue of Liberty? _sure!_) What Snopes has to say. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)
I'll send you a kit -- are you still at the same address? Please keep the crankcase attached to the engine til you can run it about 3 or 4 minutes so the fuel can circulate andany contamination can be suspended in the oil. Leaving the case on with the oil in it allows the engine to start and also keeps the oil as is until you get the kit and can put a few ounces directly from the crankcase to the provided bottle.Using any other container can contaminate the sample and it may be a waste of time/money.I'll put the kit in the mail Monday - IIRC you live pretty close to me - should have the kit Wed or Thurs I think. How's that sound? I'll send you a invoice later next week and you can send a Paypal payment or call/email me with a credit card. A single Kits are a $21.95 plus shipping.3 Kit Packs are a little cheaper more are cheaper still...I hate to bring up payment as I know what kind of expense you will face if you intend to keep that MB! I'm having trouble finding your last invoice or analysis report -what is your full name please? Take care -- Larry 91 300D On 7/19/2013 10:27 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Thought I sent this to the list yesterday; 'turns out I sent it to myself. I guess that's why I got no responses today. ;) I'm thinking the extra stuff in my SDL oil pan is fuel (well, most, anyway). 'Sniffed and felt it several days ago when I discovered the shockingly extra volume of oil and again yesterday; 'can't detect fuel smell, but sure looks and feels like fuel - oil appears very diluted. Extra quantity of oil appearing at exactly same time as missing significant quantity of coolant certainly made me jump on coolant, but lack of foam and cafe au lait appearance seems to point away from coolant somewhat, though I did see a few bubbles. BTW, overflow tank was under excessive (yes, excessive) pressure when I removed cap the day I found it empty. What about firmness of upper rad hose? Isn't the IP the only place where oil and fuel are in close proximity? Somebody 'splain their separation (or lack thereof) in the IP. BTW, car starts with just touch of starter and idles nicely. Coupla days ago, after the missing coolant incident, it started instantly but ran roughly and haltingly for few seconds then smoothed out. 'Gonna remove the diluted oil and put some new oil in so I can drive it a bit. Larry, whatdya need for oil analysis? I'm still leaning toward letting 'er go; y'all prepare your bids. ;) BTW, tranny rebuilt 4 or 5 years ago; cruise and climate controls work nicely - blows ICE COLD, no rust. :) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news If I give up, it hasn't been so easily and quickly; 'been nursing this car for 17 ears - since timing chain broke at 89 kmi and I learned about the rod-bender 350's. To give up or to go quietly is very uncharacteristic of me, but sometimes ya need to fold 'em, to. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news On 18/07/2013 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I feel its a shame to not fix this car... I thought Rich and Max _were_ going to fix it, hence the offer of $500 + trailer? IIRC Rich has a replacement engine already lined up ready to go, or ready to donate its head if that's all that's needed. Alex BUT, we are trying to persuade Wilton not to give up easily and dispose of a beautiful car for $500 (evn if someone else on the list) Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news
clay wrote: I need you to send a trailer or maybe come out and replace the strut and drive back to okie land. I have no space to park it long term. Take it home for $1500 Roadtrip? oneway amtrak to SEA, one way amtrak from OKC All I need is someone to do the strut. You and me do strut? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kick down switch
Measure electrical continuity, not range of motion. You don't care how far it move, you want to know whether it closes (or opens) or not. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Question - the Kickdown switch under the acelerator pedal - how much movement should it have? I tinkered with it and it only moved about 1/16 of a inch. I expected 1/4 or so but I've never had to work on one before... Comments?? BTW, having new grommets on the shift rod makes a huge difference in the noise level and shift accuracy - even on a automatic..I think the front grommet was hanging by a thread when I was trying to fix the rear one. and it came off completely when I worked on the rear. speaking of installer errors - Sadlly, if the AT must come out again Sun Valley will not pay the RR labor - $550 in my case. anybody?? LarryT 91 300D On 7/19/2013 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: One of those installer problems was my buddy's 79 450SL. His tranny was going bad, he bought one from Rusty and had the local well-known indie in Houston replace it. They managed to bugger it up somehow I don't remember, got another one and it is still fine. --R On 7/19/13 7:48 AM, Larry T wrote: Hi Don, Man! I hope not! This AT is only 25 months old (with a 24 month warranty) - Rusty said he had sold about 3000 and only had 3 problems- 2 of them were installer problems and 1 was a easy external fix The AT was around 1400 plus 550 to install for $2k I would hope to get more than 2 years out of it! I'm still hoping for a easy fix but it doesn't seem to be shifting into 1st even when pulling gear lever all the way back. I need to ask Sun valley another question and tell them about it not going into 1st using the shift lever... Thx LarryT 91 300D On 7/18/2013 8:52 PM, OK Don wrote: I do fear that you have deeper tranny issues __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
Yes, now is the time to collect W116s... its worth $1800. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Think it's worth $1800? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I think he wants way too much for it too. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting car... definitely a custom order. Its a shame the back seat is so bad... might be too far gone to repair. Orthopedic seats! Jaime On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin kaleb.strip...@drivedominion.com wrote: I am seriously thinking about making the guy am offer, it appears to have rust though http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)
Hold up on sending the kit, Larry, I'm gonna do some deep thinking about the entire situation overnight. Maybe, I can make a decision by late morning. 'Sorry to be so wishy-washy. BTW, You haven't done an analysis for me before. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION) I'll send you a kit -- are you still at the same address? Please keep the crankcase attached to the engine til you can run it about 3 or 4 minutes so the fuel can circulate andany contamination can be suspended in the oil. Leaving the case on with the oil in it allows the engine to start and also keeps the oil as is until you get the kit and can put a few ounces directly from the crankcase to the provided bottle.Using any other container can contaminate the sample and it may be a waste of time/money. I'll put the kit in the mail Monday - IIRC you live pretty close to me - should have the kit Wed or Thurs I think. How's that sound? I'll send you a invoice later next week and you can send a Paypal payment or call/email me with a credit card. A single Kits are a $21.95 plus shipping.3 Kit Packs are a little cheaper more are cheaper still...I hate to bring up payment as I know what kind of expense you will face if you intend to keep that MB! I'm having trouble finding your last invoice or analysis report -what is your full name please? Take care -- Larry 91 300D On 7/19/2013 10:27 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Thought I sent this to the list yesterday; 'turns out I sent it to myself. I guess that's why I got no responses today. ;) I'm thinking the extra stuff in my SDL oil pan is fuel (well, most, anyway). 'Sniffed and felt it several days ago when I discovered the shockingly extra volume of oil and again yesterday; 'can't detect fuel smell, but sure looks and feels like fuel - oil appears very diluted. Extra quantity of oil appearing at exactly same time as missing significant quantity of coolant certainly made me jump on coolant, but lack of foam and cafe au lait appearance seems to point away from coolant somewhat, though I did see a few bubbles. BTW, overflow tank was under excessive (yes, excessive) pressure when I removed cap the day I found it empty. What about firmness of upper rad hose? Isn't the IP the only place where oil and fuel are in close proximity? Somebody 'splain their separation (or lack thereof) in the IP. BTW, car starts with just touch of starter and idles nicely. Coupla days ago, after the missing coolant incident, it started instantly but ran roughly and haltingly for few seconds then smoothed out. 'Gonna remove the diluted oil and put some new oil in so I can drive it a bit. Larry, whatdya need for oil analysis? I'm still leaning toward letting 'er go; y'all prepare your bids. ;) BTW, tranny rebuilt 4 or 5 years ago; cruise and climate controls work nicely - blows ICE COLD, no rust. :) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news If I give up, it hasn't been so easily and quickly; 'been nursing this car for 17 ears - since timing chain broke at 89 kmi and I learned about the rod-bender 350's. To give up or to go quietly is very uncharacteristic of me, but sometimes ya need to fold 'em, to. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news On 18/07/2013 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I feel its a shame to not fix this car... I thought Rich and Max _were_ going to fix it, hence the offer of $500 + trailer? IIRC Rich has a replacement engine already lined up ready to go, or ready to donate its head if that's all that's needed. Alex BUT, we are trying to persuade Wilton not to give up easily and dispose of a beautiful car for $500 (evn if someone else on the list) Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
In going to forward the additional photos he sent me, let me know what you think. Also take a look at the engine photo on the ad, what do you think about that breather hose re routing or whatever is going on Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, now is the time to collect W116s... its worth $1800. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Think it's worth $1800? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I think he wants way too much for it too. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting car... definitely a custom order. Its a shame the back seat is so bad... might be too far gone to repair. Orthopedic seats! Jaime On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin kaleb.strip...@drivedominion.com wrote: I am seriously thinking about making the guy am offer, it appears to have rust though http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
Curt wrote: 10.6 was the last really good OS Apple made... I used to say that about System 6.8. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news
Scott wrote: I suspect the lift pump can also fail in such a way fuel would get into the oil. I know this is true for some designs and may be true of the MBZ design too. It can on the OM616/OM617. The lift pump attaches over a hole in the crankcase. I have never had one leak - but it could. I have no data on the newer engine. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
At least with Win8 I understand the concept, trying to unify the PC and tablet platforms. Stupid idea but at least they had some kind of a plan. I've been living full time on Puppy Linux for 5 days now and I'm very pleased with it. Other than a few hiccups (I can't figure out how to import my Chrome bookmarks into Chromium) I'm quite pleased with it. This is a work laptop that is being replaced (the schedule advances now). I was planning on making this my home PC to replace a big old clunky tower. I still plan on that but now it'll be Puppy as the OS. I'd given up on Linux because I couldn't find a distro that would reliably play web video. As we watch all our TV online that was an absolute requirement. Puppy seems to play everything fine. Amazon, Youtube, Hulu all seem to work, this might be a winner. I had planned on investing in an SSD for quick quiet boots but it works so well off a USB drive I might just hang a 32GB key on it and use it that way keeping the internal drive for storage. -Curt Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:18:35 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer Message-ID: 51eb1acb.5040...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed you can say the same thing about win8 IMO!! change for the sake of change! Typical MS bs! LarryT 91 300D On 7/19/2013 8:52 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: 10.8 is the most Microsoft like screwup of an OS Apple has ever made. They've moved stuff around just for the sake of moving it. Its a drag. 10.6 was the last really good OS Apple made but of course every time they rev the hardware they force you into a new OS. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD- 40 Snopes
Larry T wrote: there has been some recent accusations that Snopes is not as non-partisan as they claim -- when quoting them make sure there's not a unstated reason for them to take the position they have. My impression of the founders back when the site started was that they were very progressive politically. They carefully presented all the facts they could verify, then interpreted them with a leftward slant. So the political chain mails from the left side would be True, while a similarly factual political chain mail from the right side would be True (but it doesn't mean as much as the sender claims it does). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
I think Microsoft is finally going to die from petrification, along with Intel -- they used their (illegal) monopoly power to force us to use bad software on lousy chips for too long, and neither company is capable of responding to market forces (Intel has announced they want to force people back onto PCs using superior x86 junk). It took 30 years, but maybe, just maybe, we can get out from under this crap. Everyone else always made better stuff than Microsoft, and Intel became a brain-dead monopoly about the time the founder died -- no real significant research since then, just kept tarting up a dead- end power hog design. I'm greatly amused that NONE of the smart phones use anything from Intel. Before long no laptop or PC will either, unless they get rid of that ancient crap. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
*sigh* The MSDS says: Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 45-50% Petroleum Base Oil 25% LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 12-18% Carbon Dioxide 2-3% - which is probably the propellant Other 10% Snopes says: Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic 60% Petroleum Base Oil 15-20% Corrosion Inhibitor 1-10% Wetting Agent 1-10% Fragrance 0-1% Carbon dioxide 2-3% Now match the two lists up. C02 agrees so thats out. Fragrance and wetting agent are probably contained in other so we can kick that out. Petroleum base oil matches so kick that out too. If you add Aliphatic Hydrocarbon and LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon together you more or less get Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic so we can remove those too. So the only one left is wetting agent which also probably lives in other. So what exactly are you talking about? -Curt Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] WD40 Message-ID: CALHJ_1DqiN8q-DLAk0wjobuH0QTg=5kqlftrou8q2bd6gpn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can agree it is not fish oil. That is no problem. I read the MSDS and it does not agree with what Snopes said. Simple. Read it yourself. I am also the one who posted the link from WD40 saying it is not fish oil so I am not still arguing that point. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So you're clinging to Aliphatic Hydrocarbon which they say (per snopes) is Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic? I think thats the lamest ass argument I've ever heard. If you had something, ANYTHING that was reasonable I'd listen but this is the kind of argument a little kid thats losing an argument badly makes. Go camp out at the WD40 factory and catch a picture of a truck dripping a little water. Claim the water smells like fish and I'll give you a little credence. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
On Jul 20, 2013 5:35 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Curt wrote: 10.6 was the last really good OS Apple made... I used to say that about System 6.8. Surely you mean 6.0.8? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:25:53 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: In going to forward the additional photos he sent me, let me know what you think. Also take a look at the engine photo on the ad, what do you think about that breather hose re routing or whatever is going on It looks like the breather hose goes to the back of the engine compartment and then heads toward the ground -- like cars use to have many years ago before positive crankcase ventilation, et al. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
Well it's supposed to hook in under the air cleaner but it looks like they connections are plugged off. My thought is the engine is worn out and has massive blowby? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:25:53 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: In going to forward the additional photos he sent me, let me know what you think. Also take a look at the engine photo on the ad, what do you think about that breather hose re routing or whatever is going on It looks like the breather hose goes to the back of the engine compartment and then heads toward the ground -- like cars use to have many years ago before positive crankcase ventilation, et al. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Gerrys surgery
Saw surgeon today for pathology report. Tumor had not spread; removed intact; clean bill of health. Many thanks to all for your prayers and encouragement. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] List mom blocked
list mom is sitting on the photo, so here is an abomination view photos MERCEDES CLK500 Year: 2006 Make: MERCEDES Model: CLK500 Description: V8, AUTO, A/C, CRUISE, TILT, P/WDW, P/SEAT, P/LOCK, SUNROOF s/n: WDBTJ75J06F167676 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
Peter wrote: I think Microsoft is finally going to die from petrification... Nice!! Now is the time for new design - what will that be? Open source is a nice gimmick but still remains catch-up to windows or apple. People change too slowly but radical grabs hold over several years. Is there any hint how new tech will look? Or will new tech merely be inclusion of old tech in different packages as we have seen for 35 years? Something completely out of the box like apple/DOS/pc needs to arrive - what? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car
Kaleb wrote: In going to forward the additional photos he sent me... The moderator needs to approve those attachments, Kaleb. Take it to banned!! This is why 3-day old mail sits in the Inbox today. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
Kaleb wrote: Sent from my iPhone Fail!! You need a new moderator that can approve messages with attachments sooner than 6 days. ;-) mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Asiana
Maybe the crew did the proper things? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3kREPMzMLk mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gerrys surgery
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 01:56:25 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Saw surgeon today for pathology report. Tumor had not spread; removed intact; clean bill of health. Many thanks to all for your prayers and encouragement. Gerry CONGRATULATIONS! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
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[MBZ] Fwd: 300sd
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: craigslist 3943180464 w6tt9-3943180...@sale.craigslist.org Date: July 20, 2013, 8:39:17 PM CDT To: abe3003cd458309d9729ece72accc...@reply.craigslist.org Subject: 300sd Original craigslist post: http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/3943180464.html About craigslist mail: http://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): http://craigslist.org/mf/d857451b1d271fcc861344ecb8bdc128f5fd9fee.1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kick down switch
Question - the Kickdown switch under the acelerator pedal - how much movement should it have? I tinkered with it and it only moved about 1/16 of a inch. I expected 1/4 or so but I've never had to work on one before... Comments?? BTW, having new grommets on the shift rod makes a huge difference in the noise level and shift accuracy - even on a automatic..I think the front grommet was hanging by a thread when I was trying to fix the rear one. and it came off completely when I worked on the rear. speaking of installer errors - Sadlly, if the AT must come out again Sun Valley will not pay the RR labor - $550 in my case. anybody?? LarryT 91 300D Kickdown switch on the SDL moved maybe a quarter inch. You can test continuity if you want. A sure test is to unplug it. See if that makes any difference. I'd guess that your switch should move more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD- 40 Snopes
Larry T wrote: there has been some recent accusations that Snopes is not as non-partisan as they claim -- when quoting them make sure there's not a unstated reason for them to take the position they have. My impression of the founders back when the site started was that they were very (progressive) MARK XIST politically. They carefully presented all the facts they could verify, then interpreted them with a leftward slant. So the political chain mails from the left side would be True, while a similarly factual political chain mail from the right side would be True (but it doesn't mean as much as the sender claims it does). Mitch. Lets call a spade a spade. Mark xist. pro gressive = regressive repressive totalitarian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana
No. Like I said, regardless of auto this or auto that, there is no excuse for not monitoring attitude, airspeed and altitude, especially in critical stages of flight, and, no matter how bad things may get (weather, SAM's, SWMBO digging fingernails into inner thigh demanding to know, What is that noise? etc.) you must continue to fly the airplane. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT - Asiana Maybe the crew did the proper things? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3kREPMzMLk mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
Probably won't look or work much different, but we at least will be able to get away from 1960's CPU architecture and move on to something, say, 1980 anyway. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana
As noted by a 777 pilot, it's possible to set the equipment up to disable both the autothrottle and autothrottle failure warning during normal flight. This is a training issue, but also one of those pitfalls that should be designed out to prevent someone using an inappropriate mode at the wrong time. If they were flying on autothrottle and it neither controlled the speed nor warned them that the autothrottle was not engaged, there is probably no way they could have made a normal landing -- by the time the speed drops below landing speed it's way too late. We will see. We have intact controls, intact computers, and a live crew. I'm hesitant to just blame the pilots at this point, no one EVERY intentionally splatters a plane full of passengers, and someone who has been flying 747's for decades isn't a dud pilot. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
I think Microsoft is finally going to die from petrification, along with Intel -- they used their (illegal) monopoly power to force us to use bad software on lousy chips for too long, and neither company is capable of responding to market forces (Intel has announced they want to force people back onto PCs using superior x86 junk). It took 30 years, but maybe, just maybe, we can get out from under this crap. Everyone else always made better stuff than Microsoft, and Intel became a brain-dead monopoly about the time the founder died -- no real significant research since then, just kept tarting up a dead-end power hog design. I'm greatly amused that NONE of the smart phones use anything from Intel. Before long no laptop or PC will either, unless they get rid of that ancient crap. Peter Petrification or putrification? The biggest failure of computing in the past 30 years is the keyboard. It is a miserable HMI (human machine interface) Surely we can do better. The big problem with programmers is that they want to add/change crap just because they can (because they are nearly always out of control) The focus should be on making a better product and providing the customer better value. I plan to migrate biz computers to linux rather than any post XP desktop. For now XP still works. No need for oriface any more. Libre office is free, as is googelie docs. Mach OS 10.6 is stable, much cheaper than winders any number but not free. The univ junque sale had a whole stack of sun boxes for the unix junkies. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana
Peter wrote: As noted by a 777 pilot, it's possible to set the equipment up to disable both the autothrottle and autothrottle failure warning during normal flight. Can we be open to a perverse negative? A perverse negative scenario stemming from viewing Children of Magenta is... perhaps they were in the auto mode up until too late, at which time they regained situational awareness and flew the airplane with what they had, i.e. nothing. The auto mode may have destroyed the entire plane, instead. It occurred to me after watching the video that while the video shames the auto mode addiction, perhaps the crew had in good time gotten off the addiction and really did fly the plane with zero lift and zero power, but they lifted the nose to avoid the wall, nixing the tail, avoiding complete fireball and crash? Perhaps? Actually... I know nothing... Stray thoughts occur from time to time while I watch stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
Peter wrote: Probably won't look or work much different, but we at least will be able to get away from 1960's CPU architecture and move on to something, say, 1980 anyway. That all means more of the same, I think. Oh, well. The more things change, the more things stay the same. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana
I'm hesitant to just blame the pilots at this point, no one EVERY intentionally splatters a plane full of passengers, and someone who has been flying 747's for decades isn't a dud pilot. Peter ___ I appreciate the wait and see approach. Honestly, I can't see any conclusion that does not include pilot error. lack of training or other excuses to me will still end at pilot error. Humans err. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana
Well, the real point is was this a stupid pilot error or an error the pilot made when he though he was doing something else, or alternatively a training issue where the pilot did something he should not have when he thought he was doing something else, and what he did was what he was taught to do. One does NOT land one of these things like one does a single engine Cesna on a clear day with no wind, I suspect the only time they are landed without autothrottle control is when something is wrong with the aircraft. It's foolish to manually control the airspeed when the autospeed does a better job anyway. We will see, the NTSB generally does a superb job of accident investigation, and what exactly happened will get ferreted out eventually. Probably going to take some time, though. This is similar to the AA DC-10 crash in Chicago back in the mid 70's where the engine came off just after liftoff. The crew failed to correct for the loss of lift on the affected wing due to leading edge slat retraction upon hydraulic failure and the aircraft rolled over and crashed. It was very easy to compensate for, all the crew had to do was retract the slat on the other side to balance the lift, so you could call that pilot error. However, since the power for the mis- match slat extension warning was supplied only by the engine that ripped off, there was no warning and the plane rolled over too far to recover before the crew could fix it. They DID cotton on the the problem, but only after it was too late to save the plane. Was that pilot error? No, every single DC-10 pilot who flew the accident on a simulator crashed the plane, every time. If the slat mis-match warning was enabled, every single one flew it out with no issues and landed safely. Pilot error? Not really. If the Asiana crew thought the autothrottle was set and working, as it always was on landing a 777, and it did NOT control the speed as the aircraft approached the set landing speed AND there was no audible or visual warning that the speed was not being controlled by the autothrottle, is that pilot error or a training/equipment problem? There is, from what I've read, at least one flight mode where the autothrottle is deactivated AND the speed warning/autothrottle failure is ALSO deactivated (look up FLCH trapon the 777). Remember, SFO ATC is well known for not giving final approach clearance until the landing aircraft is past the inital flight slope and too high, requiring some fancy flying to get the plane down to glide slope and into stable approach conditions. The ALPA has been complaining for decades, this is not a new problem. So think this scenario: ATC doesn't give landing clearance until the ASIANA flight is past the initial point on the glide slope. This is against company rules, since it requires an un-stabilized approach, but it's routine at SFO. It's also not a big problem, but to get down to glide slope, it's necessary to idle way back on the engines and descend a bit faster than normal. This is a computer operated plane, you don't manually handle the throttles much, you select the speed you want and the rate of descent. However, since you are over the glide slope, you have to use some flight mode on the computer that lets you do so, and in this case, if the crew selected FLCH (flight level change) and did NOT realized that doing so deactivates the auto throttle AND the auto throttle failed to engage -- speed too low warning, we are in a situation where the crew expects the autothrottle to control the speed and is NOT watching the rate of speed loss very carefully, they are watching to make sure they achieve glide slope and don't have to go around to avoid an over-run by landing too fast too far down the runway. During the last few seconds of the approach, the engines don't come up, speed starts to drop below set landing speed, crew has to figure out why (remember, they always use auto throttle speed control), and oops, crash. By the time the failure of the engine power to come up when expected gets processed by the crew and they ram the throttles wide open, it's about 10 seconds too late to avoid the crash. Throttle application on a 777 is timing critical, that bus descends fast and takes a lot of thrust to stop a descent. By the time the speed drops below selected landing speed you are at least 5, probably 10, seconds LATE on throttle application and there is absolutely nothing that can be done to fix it, you are going to stall. Obviously, the crew expected the speed to be automatically controlled, and it was a very nasty surprise when it wasn't. Now, where is the error? Is it stupid pilots who recklessly fail to set the autothrottles? Is it improper training -- never use FLCH mode to descend to glide slope (did anyone make sure the pilots knew FLCH would leave them with NO
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
Curt wrote: I've been living full time on Puppy Linux for 5 days now and I'm very pleased with it. I've been living full time on Debian for a 12+ years now, and I'm pleased with it. *whew* That sounds like a long time! I'd given up on Linux because I couldn't find a distro that would reliably play web video. You expect a _distro_ to do exactly what you want? I think I've pestered you about this before. *smiles* That view may be the popular view - but a major advantage of Linux is trying to be the _one_ thing that meets everyone's needs - it's adaptable. It's silly to expect a distribution to package what you want. If you don't like what it is - it is both practical and _lawful_ to adapt and change it 'till you do like it. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mac System 6 Was: TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer
Curt wrote: 10.6 was the last really good OS Apple made... On Jul 20, 2013 5:35 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I used to say that about System 6.8. Alex wrote: Surely you mean 6.0.8? Hmm. Could be. I still have an SE and an SE30 - but neither have been booted in many years. Yeah, 6.0.8 seem more right. I guess the zero faded in my memory. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] One for the quotes page
From Frada, former listmember, upside down and backwards: the ownership of a toyota pious is tantamount to environmental vandalism Davide Frada No relation to dickarde ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
