Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Exactly my thoughts.

Dan

On Dec 19, 2013, at 2:02 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 On Dec 18, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Turned in my notice at the School District today.
 
 I start working for the County on January 13th.
 
 
 +1
 Good for you. 
 
 Now. If we could only get Craig some gainful employment. 
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
I still think Craig would do well to apply for a science, chemistry, or 
physics teaching assistant position at a nearby high school, and 
simultaneously put in applications at nearby colleges, as well as 
distant colleges.  A PHD with Craigs background who likes/loves teaching 
well enough to work in a position far below his capabilities just might 
impress potential colleges with his devotion to teaching and science as 
well as his work ethic.

Gerry

On Dec 18, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

Turned in my notice at the School District today.

I start working for the County on January 13th.


Good for you.

Now. If we could only get Craig some gainful employment.

Rick




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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Penoff
I have been thinking the same thing for a while, as there is a huge demand for 
STEM teachers. The problem in his situation (I suspect) is that there is an 
exceedingly high number of such folks in his neighborhood, which is sort of 
unique in his case.

I know that he would have no problem getting a job here teaching HS physics or 
a related subject. The pay is not that great, but there are certainly plenty of 
opportunities.

We would love to have someone as qualified as he, for sure. Also, we have a 
number of community colleges in the area that he could find a place as well, I 
suspect.

Dan

 On Dec 19, 2013, at 6:50 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com 
 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 
 I still think Craig would do well to apply for a science, chemistry, or 
 physics teaching assistant position at a nearby high school, and 
 simultaneously put in applications at nearby colleges, as well as distant 
 colleges.  A PHD with Craigs background who likes/loves teaching well enough 
 to work in a position far below his capabilities just might impress potential 
 colleges with his devotion to teaching and science as well as his work ethic.
 Gerry
 On Dec 18, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Turned in my notice at the School District today.
 
 I start working for the County on January 13th.
 
 
 Good for you.
 
 Now. If we could only get Craig some gainful employment.
 
 Rick
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem

2013-12-19 Thread Dieselhead

Yes, did that.  no more up/out movement.


On 12/17/2013 9:17 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Dieselhead wrote:

All four wheels, pretty much evenly.  (by the heat test)


Have you tried forcefully pulling up on the brake pedal and 
looking for blockage that would would keep the pedal from coming all 
the way up?

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:

On Dec 18, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


Turned in my notice at the School District today.

I start working for the County on January 13th.



+1
Good for you. 

Now. If we could only get Craig some gainful employment. 


I hear Tampa Schools have an IT opening.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws Philip, today's code is uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Scott Ritchey wrote:

Here's a breakdown, somewhat dated (2001).  I think the fireatm rate is now
down to 50%.

  Rate Per
  Number  100,000 % of Total
Firearms..16,8695.9.55.1
All Other Methods.13,7534.8.49.9
Hanging or Suffocation.6,1982.2.20.2
Poisoning..5,1911.8.17.0
Falls6510.2..2.1
Cutting / Piercing..4580.2..1.5
Drowning.3390.1..1.1
Fire.1470.1..0.5


Never underestimate human creativity.
Notice that all other methods is a close second, far above #3.
I can recall a Limey who rigged an electric chainsaw to completely decapitate
himself. Hard to categorize something like that.


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Re: [MBZ] Spicy German animal musics

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

clay wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCCuGztL-Ucfeature=player_embedded

Some healthy antics with no mercedes content.  But from der Vaterland


For a minute there, I thought the brunette's necklace was on topic.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Here's a breakdown, somewhat dated (2001).  I think the fireatm rate 
is now

down to 50%.


So where, in there, is cop?

-- Jim



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[MBZ] Magic body control uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Remember the chicken video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLwML2PagbY

Jaguar has something to say about that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PQS8SFWNQw

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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Tim Crone
On Dec 19, 2013 8:59 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I have been thinking the same thing for a while, as there is a huge demand
 for STEM teachers. The problem in his situation (I suspect) is that there
 is an exceedingly high number of such folks in his neighborhood, which is
 sort of unique in his case.


In NC, Craig would not be qualified to teach in the public schools, since
he only has a science-based Ph.D. and many years of relevant work
experience.  This is a right-to-work state, we just care about our teachers
too much to let people know what they are doing before they try to instruct
our children.

That said, there are lots of private and charter schools in Durham and Wake
county, and lots of concentrated wealth so some of them pay very well.
 [And, knowing Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools, they probably have a
waiver for licensure, since it is by far the best - and best paying -
public school system in the state.] There are also a number of universities
and colleges within 30 miles to pick up an Adjunct position, though to be
honest I think the private high schools pay better and have more motivated
students.  A college friend of my is the principal at one of the Catholic
schools, he's not a high-roller but he has enough and really enjoys his
work.

The local post-secondary schools certainly don't espouse any religious
theme*, but there is a thriving Christian community in each of them - I was
blessed with a number of professors who helped solidify my faith while I
was at NC State, and now I know a fair few folks from Duke and Chapel Hill
through church/organizational interactions as well.  Oddly my wife went to
NCCU and I know only two current professors there, though as an HBCU in
Durham I'm pretty sure it has a strong AME influence.

*Duke is the exception, practically it is a secular university that happens
to have a historical divinity school located on the same campus.  That said
I know a lot of the present and former Divinity School people, and they are
incredible, in word and deed - I wasn't expecting that when I moved to
Durham, given the Duke reputation. :)

I'm not trying to make this a religion thread, but I know it's important to
Craig that he's working somewhere Good.  Just trying to get him to move
here so he can help me with the SDLs, don'cha know.

Best,
-Tim
should point out that, while Durham and Orange counties are bastions of
liberalism, Wake is on average as conservative as they come
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[MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

Chuck Norris version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA

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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Penoff
He would be waivered here as he would in most states, with a promise to get 
teaching credentials in a given period of time. Pretty typical for most states.

Down here we have a program for people to make the transition from private 
sector to education.

Dan

 On Dec 19, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:
 
 On Dec 19, 2013 8:59 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 I have been thinking the same thing for a while, as there is a huge demand
 for STEM teachers. The problem in his situation (I suspect) is that there
 is an exceedingly high number of such folks in his neighborhood, which is
 sort of unique in his case.
 
 In NC, Craig would not be qualified to teach in the public schools, since
 he only has a science-based Ph.D. and many years of relevant work
 experience.  This is a right-to-work state, we just care about our teachers
 too much to let people know what they are doing before they try to instruct
 our children.
 
 That said, there are lots of private and charter schools in Durham and Wake
 county, and lots of concentrated wealth so some of them pay very well.
 [And, knowing Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools, they probably have a
 waiver for licensure, since it is by far the best - and best paying -
 public school system in the state.] There are also a number of universities
 and colleges within 30 miles to pick up an Adjunct position, though to be
 honest I think the private high schools pay better and have more motivated
 students.  A college friend of my is the principal at one of the Catholic
 schools, he's not a high-roller but he has enough and really enjoys his
 work.
 
 The local post-secondary schools certainly don't espouse any religious
 theme*, but there is a thriving Christian community in each of them - I was
 blessed with a number of professors who helped solidify my faith while I
 was at NC State, and now I know a fair few folks from Duke and Chapel Hill
 through church/organizational interactions as well.  Oddly my wife went to
 NCCU and I know only two current professors there, though as an HBCU in
 Durham I'm pretty sure it has a strong AME influence.
 
 *Duke is the exception, practically it is a secular university that happens
 to have a historical divinity school located on the same campus.  That said
 I know a lot of the present and former Divinity School people, and they are
 incredible, in word and deed - I wasn't expecting that when I moved to
 Durham, given the Duke reputation. :)
 
 I'm not trying to make this a religion thread, but I know it's important to
 Craig that he's working somewhere Good.  Just trying to get him to move
 here so he can help me with the SDLs, don'cha know.
 
 Best,
 -Tim
 should point out that, while Durham and Orange counties are bastions of
 liberalism, Wake is on average as conservative as they come
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, Trevonnte was not confronted by a cop on the bus, but after taking 
possessions from three people, a rider managed to disarm him by sticking 
his finger into the trigger guard, behind the trigger, to prevent 
Trevonnte from being able to fire the gun.  Then this guy and some 
others beat the crap out of him.  Trevonnte then smashed a cop car 
window after he was bundled up to go off for counseling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=qP6gGjuNRnc

I am sorta wondering why the disarmer did not let Trevonnte have it with 
his own gun, but I guess this is a more orderly way to deal with it.


Trevonnte did not notice that the bus was a gun-free zone.

Relatives of the 19 year old told media that /he is a good kid/.

--R


On 12/19/13 10:36 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Here's a breakdown, somewhat dated (2001).  I think the fireatm rate 
is now

down to 50%.


So where, in there, is cop?

-- Jim



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[MBZ] OT The Future of Car Hacking

2013-12-19 Thread Rich Thomas

http://lifehacker.com/the-future-of-car-hacking-1485302164

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Tim Crone
Interesting.  I poked around the NC Department of Education site and didn't
see anything that looked useful for a lateral entrant, or at least anything
that would allow someone to start teaching before they completed a teaching
certificate.  Good to know that is not the norm.

Thanks,
Tim
On Dec 19, 2013 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 He would be waivered here as he would in most states, with a promise to
 get teaching credentials in a given period of time. Pretty typical for most
 states.

 Down here we have a program for people to make the transition from private
 sector to education.

 Dan

  On Dec 19, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:
 
  On Dec 19, 2013 8:59 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
  I have been thinking the same thing for a while, as there is a huge
 demand
  for STEM teachers. The problem in his situation (I suspect) is that
 there
  is an exceedingly high number of such folks in his neighborhood, which
 is
  sort of unique in his case.
 
  In NC, Craig would not be qualified to teach in the public schools, since
  he only has a science-based Ph.D. and many years of relevant work
  experience.  This is a right-to-work state, we just care about our
 teachers
  too much to let people know what they are doing before they try to
 instruct
  our children.
 
  That said, there are lots of private and charter schools in Durham and
 Wake
  county, and lots of concentrated wealth so some of them pay very well.
  [And, knowing Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools, they probably have a
  waiver for licensure, since it is by far the best - and best paying -
  public school system in the state.] There are also a number of
 universities
  and colleges within 30 miles to pick up an Adjunct position, though to be
  honest I think the private high schools pay better and have more
 motivated
  students.  A college friend of my is the principal at one of the Catholic
  schools, he's not a high-roller but he has enough and really enjoys his
  work.
 
  The local post-secondary schools certainly don't espouse any religious
  theme*, but there is a thriving Christian community in each of them - I
 was
  blessed with a number of professors who helped solidify my faith while I
  was at NC State, and now I know a fair few folks from Duke and Chapel
 Hill
  through church/organizational interactions as well.  Oddly my wife went
 to
  NCCU and I know only two current professors there, though as an HBCU in
  Durham I'm pretty sure it has a strong AME influence.
 
  *Duke is the exception, practically it is a secular university that
 happens
  to have a historical divinity school located on the same campus.  That
 said
  I know a lot of the present and former Divinity School people, and they
 are
  incredible, in word and deed - I wasn't expecting that when I moved to
  Durham, given the Duke reputation. :)
 
  I'm not trying to make this a religion thread, but I know it's important
 to
  Craig that he's working somewhere Good.  Just trying to get him to move
  here so he can help me with the SDLs, don'cha know.
 
  Best,
  -Tim
  should point out that, while Durham and Orange counties are bastions of
  liberalism, Wake is on average as conservative as they come
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?


 Chuck Norris version:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA

Definitely Photoshopped.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Penoff
They call it alternative certification here.  It was originally intended to 
be a vehicle for getting retirees and mid-career changers into the system when 
we were desperate for teachers during the housing boom.

They brought a lot of retired military in, too.

You don't get to start teaching out of the gate. You're essentially an intern 
after you complete some courses within the District, mostly things dealing with 
pedagogical skills, something few people outside of education have or have been 
exposed to. Once that's out of the way you get to start working in the 
classroom.

Sadly, the attrition rate was frighteningly high when the program was going 
full bore, about 95% after five years. Seems that teaching wasn't as easy as a 
lot of people thought

Substitute teaching is another way to go that avoids having to certify, but it 
can be tough getting a long term gig and the pay isn't that great. It's a good 
way to slipstream into the discipline, however.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 19, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:
 
 Interesting.  I poked around the NC Department of Education site and didn't
 see anything that looked useful for a lateral entrant, or at least anything
 that would allow someone to start teaching before they completed a teaching
 certificate.  Good to know that is not the norm.
 
 Thanks,
 Tim
 On Dec 19, 2013 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 He would be waivered here as he would in most states, with a promise to
 get teaching credentials in a given period of time. Pretty typical for most
 states.
 
 Down here we have a program for people to make the transition from private
 sector to education.
 
 Dan
 
 On Dec 19, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:
 
 On Dec 19, 2013 8:59 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 I have been thinking the same thing for a while, as there is a huge
 demand
 for STEM teachers. The problem in his situation (I suspect) is that
 there
 is an exceedingly high number of such folks in his neighborhood, which
 is
 sort of unique in his case.
 
 In NC, Craig would not be qualified to teach in the public schools, since
 he only has a science-based Ph.D. and many years of relevant work
 experience.  This is a right-to-work state, we just care about our
 teachers
 too much to let people know what they are doing before they try to
 instruct
 our children.
 
 That said, there are lots of private and charter schools in Durham and
 Wake
 county, and lots of concentrated wealth so some of them pay very well.
 [And, knowing Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools, they probably have a
 waiver for licensure, since it is by far the best - and best paying -
 public school system in the state.] There are also a number of
 universities
 and colleges within 30 miles to pick up an Adjunct position, though to be
 honest I think the private high schools pay better and have more
 motivated
 students.  A college friend of my is the principal at one of the Catholic
 schools, he's not a high-roller but he has enough and really enjoys his
 work.
 
 The local post-secondary schools certainly don't espouse any religious
 theme*, but there is a thriving Christian community in each of them - I
 was
 blessed with a number of professors who helped solidify my faith while I
 was at NC State, and now I know a fair few folks from Duke and Chapel
 Hill
 through church/organizational interactions as well.  Oddly my wife went
 to
 NCCU and I know only two current professors there, though as an HBCU in
 Durham I'm pretty sure it has a strong AME influence.
 
 *Duke is the exception, practically it is a secular university that
 happens
 to have a historical divinity school located on the same campus.  That
 said
 I know a lot of the present and former Divinity School people, and they
 are
 incredible, in word and deed - I wasn't expecting that when I moved to
 Durham, given the Duke reputation. :)
 
 I'm not trying to make this a religion thread, but I know it's important
 to
 Craig that he's working somewhere Good.  Just trying to get him to move
 here so he can help me with the SDLs, don'cha know.
 
 Best,
 -Tim
 should point out that, while Durham and Orange counties are bastions of
 liberalism, Wake is on average as conservative as they come
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Craig wrote:

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10


And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?



It's an advert for Volvo's computer stability controls.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 19, 2013 4:10 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


 You don't get to start teaching out of
 the gate. You're essentially an intern
 after you complete some courses
 within the District, mostly things
 dealing with pedagogical skills, ...

 Sadly, the attrition rate was
 frighteningly high when the program
 was going full bore, about 95% after
 five years. Seems that teaching wasn't
 as easy as a lot of people thought

Or people gave up because pedagogical skills are usually code for a bunch
of politically correct pseudo-scientific hooey.

Around here the M.S. in education required to teach in the public schools
is regarded universally as a joke degree to be gotten through as quickly as
possible.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Dieselhead

Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  Photoshop


On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


 Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10


And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?



 Chuck Norris version:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA


Definitely Photoshopped.

Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Dieselhead

easy as a lot of people thought

Or people gave up because pedagogical skills are usually code for a bunch
of politically correct pseudo-scientific hooey.

Around here the M.S. in education required to teach in the public schools
is regarded universally as a joke degree to be gotten through as quickly as
possible.

Alex






Alex nailed it.  Not only is the masters of Ed or the Ed D, for that 
matter, exactly what Alex said, but so is the BS/BA of educ. A 
bunch

of politically correct pseudo-scientific hooey.


I had a lot of classes in grad school with people getting a Ph[u]D to 
become district superintendents.  Some were abysmally stupid, most 
were mediocre.  There were a few who were as good as the run of the 
mill grad students in other disciplines.  I felt sorry for the 
statistics prof who tried to teach these groups. I took a stat course 
with Family and Consumer Science (formerly home ec) and Human 
Nutrition grad students (and FCS Prof) and the difference was 
amazing.   I asked the FCS Prof to be on my committe, she was so 
good.  This FCS group was very similar to the the stat grad students 
in the class I took in the Stat department with a Stat Prof.



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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Peter Frederick
I was definitely un-impressed with the quality of the work being done  
in the College of Education when I was a graduate student and on the  
Program Review committee.


Not only that, but the College of Education REQUIRED their students to  
take all the content courses for their teaching areas in the College  
of Education, no courses could count if taken in another college.   
Pure hocum and bunkum, the content free concept was raging at the  
time.


We need to require people to get a regular college degree in an  
academic area and then take the teaching courses needed to be an  
effective educator -- that would be a Master's degree and probably be  
actually useful.


Inadequately educated people cannot teach an academic subject, it's  
not a matter of reading a book to children.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Not all that many die from tylenol but I think its still a surprisingly large 
number.

http://www.propublica.org/article/tylenol-mcneil-fda-behind-the-numbers


-Curt

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:05:52 -0500
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
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and how many killed by tylenol?  or shaolin kung fu?
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Notice the semi stays in line while the straight job pulls away.  Be near
impossible the other way around.

Mike
On Dec 19, 2013 7:05 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

  Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

 And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
 particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?


  Chuck Norris version:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA

 Definitely Photoshopped.


 Craig

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[MBZ] Re: Stevia

2013-12-19 Thread Curt Raymond
I find that stevia imparts a texture, especially in baked goods. Its kind of 
waxy and I dislike it intensely.

We use:
Honey
Maple Syrup
and 
Turbinado sugar.

All are minimally processed, I guess you can't get less processed than honey 
from a local provider (never mind the Chinese dump grade crap) with maple syrup 
being a close second. I'll consider sugar minimally processed in comparison to 
just about everything else including the inaccurately named agave nectar 
http://butterbeliever.com/is-agave-nectar-a-healthy-sweetener/

-Curt

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:54:30 -0500 (EST)
From: rdeaf...@aol.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Subject: Re:  Stevia, was Alternator casualty 8utaba5y
Message-ID: 43ff8.50fff2b7.3fe38...@aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

It looks like the sweetest, least aftertasty compound found in Stevia is  
being
commercialized as Truvia, complete with bulk additives to make it  measure 
like
sugar, so a 9oz jar of Truvia won't last as long as a 4oz bag of  powdered 
Stevia.

Mitch

I just purchased Stevia for 50 gm. for $9.50 plus $4.50 shipping for  a 
total of $14.00 [ Pa. ]. A gift for my brother for Christmas  . Here is  the 
site :
    
  .  http://www.nutrients-scientific.com/servlet/StoreFront

  Bob 
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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Dieselhead
I was definitely un-impressed with the quality of the work being 
done in the College of Education when I was a graduate student and 
on the Program Review committee.


Not only that, but the College of Education REQUIRED their students 
to take all the content courses for their teaching areas in the 
College of Education, no courses could count if taken in another 
college.  
Pure hocum and bunkum, the content free concept was raging at the time.


We need to require people to get a regular college degree in an 
academic area and then take the teaching courses needed to be an 
effective educator -- that would be a Master's degree and probably 
be actually useful.


Inadequately educated people cannot teach an academic subject, it's 
not a matter of reading a book to children.


Peter



Hear, Hear!!!

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Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-19 Thread Curt Raymond
A couple years ago I interviewed to teach video production at a public high 
school. They offered me the position and the principal assured me they'd help 
me get my master's and a teaching certificate and that a waiver to teach in the 
meantime was a mere formality.
Then the superintendent stepped in and talked me out of the job. The principal 
stepped in to get me back and I ended up moving into a very no bs phone 
support position.

Honestly I'm pretty sure corporate instruction fits my personality type better. 
I only have students for a week at a time and they (or their corporate masters) 
have paid $3k for that week so they tend to be very motivated.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:50:10 -0500
From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us
To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!
Message-ID:
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Interesting.  I poked around the NC Department of Education site and didn't
see anything that looked useful for a lateral entrant, or at least anything
that would allow someone to start teaching before they completed a teaching
certificate.  Good to know that is not the norm.

Thanks,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Stevia uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

I find that stevia imparts a texture, especially in baked goods. Its kind of 
waxy and I dislike it intensely.


Truvia or pure stevia?
Stevia is supposed to be so concentrated I can't imagine it having any physical
quality in baked goods. Instead of a couple of tablespoons of sugar, you'd use
1/32th of a teaspoon of stevia powder, right?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Curt Raymond
After Effects, Photoshop is for still images.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:05:49 -0700
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah
Message-ID: 20131219170549.1af3ca7f05f53add59d60...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?


 Chuck Norris version:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA

Definitely Photoshopped.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah (what's with the uje0....?)

2013-12-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay

http://www.volvotrucks.com/trucks/uk-market/en-gb/trucks/volvo-fm/key-features/Pages/volvo-dynamic-steering.aspx
Another step towards full automation, trucks change gears themselves 
now, a manual box that is shifted as opposed to a traditional auto box.

I think Merc and other are incorporating distronic stuff into trucks etc
Won't be long and the driver will be able to let go of the steering 
wheel and read a book.


Hendrik
who does not read books whilst driving

On 20/12/13 11:36, Mitch Haley wrote:

Craig wrote:

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10


And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?



It's an advert for Volvo's computer stability controls.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay

I think the words we are looking for is computer generated animation.

Hendrik
who is not computer generated

On 20/12/13 13:37, Curt Raymond wrote:

After Effects, Photoshop is for still images.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:07:04 -0500 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Relatives of the 19 year old told media that /he is a good kid/.

I guess if he hasn't pointed a gun in your face, he's a good kid.

But now that he has pointed a gun in someone's face and there is visible
proof of that fact, his relatives need to realize he's not a good kid
anymore.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Fmiser
   Mitch wrote:
  
Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

  Craig wrote:
 
  And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight
  backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a
  trailer?

 Dieselhead wrote:
 
 Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  Photoshop

Maybe.  But I'm pretty certain those trucks were being driven in
reverse.  Note where the drivers are looking.

--Philip

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[MBZ] I will be very unconsecrated

2013-12-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPcxJU4QqZA

Hendrik
who is also sometimes unconsecrated
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Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts [hey Kaleb, you and your spamblocker can go emamuqur yourselves]

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 16, 2013 2:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 blizzaks are great.


Yep, nothing but Blizzaks for me when it comes to serious winter tires.
I've experimented with other brands in the studless snow/ice category,
but no other maker seems to be able to copy the magic Blizzak formula.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Yeah, that was the whole point of the ad.  Supposed to make backing
easier.  I say a good driver should be able to back up in a stright line on
a perfectly level surface without computer help.  I can back a 40 foot van
in a straight line for a looong ways with an old worn out
Freightshaker...lolol

Mike
On Dec 19, 2013 10:59 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Mitch wrote:
   
 Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

   Craig wrote:
  
   And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight
   backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a
   trailer?

  Dieselhead wrote:
 
  Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  Photoshop

 Maybe.  But I'm pretty certain those trucks were being driven in
 reverse.  Note where the drivers are looking.

 --Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts [hey Kaleb, you and your spamblocker can go emamuqur yourselves]

2013-12-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Blizzaks were the only tire that would keep my 62 Buick Special wagon on
the road in the snow...

Nokia Hakkepellitta(sp?) are almost as good but not quite as soft.

Mike
On Dec 20, 2013 12:02 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Dec 16, 2013 2:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  blizzaks are great.
 

 Yep, nothing but Blizzaks for me when it comes to serious winter tires.
 I've experimented with other brands in the studless snow/ice category,
 but no other maker seems to be able to copy the magic Blizzak formula.

 Alex
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[MBZ] OT: Gainful employment for Craig

2013-12-19 Thread Craig
Thank you to all of you fellows who are concerned about my getting
gainful employment, as expressed in Dan's Civil Service, Oh Yeah!
thread and started by Rick Knoble. I'll go through the comments and
reply as I go.

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From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com

 I still think Craig would do well to apply for a science, chemistry, or
 physics teaching assistant position at a nearby high school, and
 simultaneously put in applications at nearby colleges, as well as
 distant colleges. A PHD with Craig's background who likes/loves
 teaching well enough to work in a position far below his capabilities
 just might impress potential colleges with his devotion to teaching and
 science as well as his work ethic.

I have applied to an Adjunct position with UNM Los Alamos. I have not
heard anything back from them yet.
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From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

 I have been thinking the same thing for a while, as there is a huge
 demand for STEM teachers. The problem in his situation (I suspect) is
 that there is an exceedingly high number of such folks in his
 neighborhood, which is sort of unique in his case.

Yes, my neighborhood is quite unique


 I know that he would have no problem getting a job here teaching HS
 physics or a related subject. The pay is not that great, but there are
 certainly plenty of opportunities.

 We would love to have someone as qualified as he, for sure. Also, we
 have a number of community colleges in the area that he could find a
 place as well, I suspect.

Thank you, Dan.
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From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us

 In NC, Craig would not be qualified to teach in the public schools,
 since he only has a science-based Ph.D. and many years of relevant work
 experience. This is a right-to-work state, we just care about our
 teachers too much to let people know what they are doing before they try
 to instruct our children.

Interesting. Too bad


 That said, there are lots of private and charter schools in Durham and
 Wake county, and lots of concentrated wealth so some of them pay very
 well. [And, knowing Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools, they probably
 have a waiver for licensure, since it is by far the best - and best
 paying - public school system in the state.] There are also a number of
 universities and colleges within 30 miles to pick up an Adjunct
 position, though to be honest I think the private high schools pay
 better and have more motivated students. A college friend of my is the
 principal at one of the Catholic schools, he's not a high-roller but he
 has enough and really enjoys his work.

I applied to St. Paul's Episcopal School in Concord, New Hampshire, a year
ago, but never heard anything from them.

In August, I registered with Carney, Sandoe  Associates,
http://www.carneysandoe.com/, which specializes in placing people in
those kinds of schools. I'll give them a call tomorrow to see what's up.


 Oddly my wife went to NCCU and I know only two current professors there,
 though as an HBCU in Durham I'm pretty sure it has a strong AME
 influence.

HBCU? AME, I'm guessing, is African Methodist Episcopal


 I'm not trying to make this a religion thread, but I know it's important
 to Craig that he's working somewhere Good. Just trying to get him to
 move here so he can help me with the SDLs, don'cha know. 

Aha! Now we know your motive!  :-)

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From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com

 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

 Sadly, the attrition rate was frighteningly high when the program was
 going full bore, about 95% after five years. Seems that teaching wasn't
 as easy as a lot of people thought

Or people gave up because pedagogical skills are usually code for a
bunch of politically correct pseudo-scientific hooey.

Around here the M.S. in education required to teach in the public schools
is regarded universally as a joke degree to be gotten through as quickly
as possible.

Alex
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From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com

 Alex nailed it. Not only is the masters of Ed or the Ed D, for that
 matter, exactly what Alex said, but so is the BS/BA of educ. A bunch
 of politically correct pseudo-scientific hooey.

And I wouldn't sit too well with a bunch of politically correct
pseudo-scientific hooey.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts [hey Kaleb, you and your spamblocker can go emamuqur yourselves]

2013-12-19 Thread Dieselhead
Metzler wuz good stuff!My Metzler air mattress lasted 25 years! 
I know a lady in HI who had a Metzler inflatable kayak, and it lasted 
at least that long too.




On Dec 16, 2013 2:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 blizzaks are great.



Yep, nothing but Blizzaks for me when it comes to serious winter tires.
I've experimented with other brands in the studless snow/ice category,
but no other maker seems to be able to copy the magic Blizzak formula.

Alex


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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay
The system is designed to be a drivers aid, works both in forward and 
reverse.
Yeah backing a unit with one articulation is pretty easy, when you got 
two or more it becomes a bit trickier.
One of the tasks to gain a MC (multi combination) license is to back up 
a B-double for a 100 meters or so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nSWoJ7A3Do

Hendrik
who took 15 minutes to reverse a B double

On 20/12/13 15:36, Michael Canfield wrote:

Yeah, that was the whole point of the ad.  Supposed to make backing
easier.  I say a good driver should be able to back up in a stright line on
a perfectly level surface without computer help.  I can back a 40 foot van
in a straight line for a looong ways with an old worn out
Freightshaker...lolol

Mike



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gainful employment for Craig

2013-12-19 Thread Dieselhead


And I wouldn't sit too well with a bunch of politically correct
pseudo-scientific hooey.

Craig



I call it edubabble.  My favorite is a colorful trifold brochure 
about some program in the Koledje of edjamacation at a state 
university.


I would give this trifold to people, ask them to read it and tell me 
what it was about.  Nobody could tell me what it was about.  it was 
all meaningless edubabble full of the trendy edubabble terms 
(cliche`s) of the year.


pedagogy no longer means training and educating children.  It is a 
code word for edubabble and

 a bunch of politically correct

pseudo-scientific hooey.

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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo edymevyg

2013-12-19 Thread Fmiser
  Mitch Haley wrote:
 
  Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

 Craig wrote:
 
 And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
 particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?

A good driver.  Driving straight is a lot easier than turning.

-- Philip, who has backed up many, many semi-trailers.

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