Re: [MBZ] ebay

[Gary Hurst]

i wish i were more entrepreneurial like you  :)


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Rick Hawkins Java  wrote:

> Folks
>
> I sell a thousand or two $$ of stuff on ebay a month and have for about 16
> or 17 years (i got in on it maybe the second year)
>
> Basically, ebay sucks  mostly ebay decides the customer is always
> right although you can get ebay to reverse decisions if you call and harass
> them enough times
>
> Ebay and paypal take a lot of $$ but it's the only game
>
> I do it because i need the money and it's often a way to get top $$ for
> strange stuff that would be hard to sell locally
>
> i am javacyclescom on ebay  no dot
>
> I run a bunch of ads on CL all the time and it brings in sales, too 
> but you get a lot more low ballers on CL
>
> I even sell a few things on etsy and should probably expand that venue
>
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
>
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> www.javacycles.com
> LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE
> www.ricktheprinter.com
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Su-30's at play

[Craig]

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:22:25 -0700 Craig  wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:02:16 -0500 "Scott Ritchey" 
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Airplane porn.  I can't comment on avionics or IR/RF signature, but
> > the engines, structures, controls, and low-speed aerodynamics are
> > awesome. Scott
> >
> > http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=77e_1389637750
> 
> You'd better believe it! WOW!
> 
> More than one F-102/F-106 pilot died trying to ride its tail in a missed
> landing approach.


Some of the comments on the YouTube page for that video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NK7ulDQ5h8Y

say that the planes at first are models.

Compare the video with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjh8mEe27h8&feature=youtu.be


I think we've been suckered.


Craig

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[MBZ] ebay

[Rick Hawkins Java]

Folks

I sell a thousand or two $$ of stuff on ebay a month and have for  
about 16 or 17 years (i got in on it maybe the second year)


Basically, ebay sucks  mostly ebay decides the customer is always  
right although you can get ebay to reverse decisions if you call and  
harass them enough times


Ebay and paypal take a lot of $$ but it's the only game

I do it because i need the money and it's often a way to get top $$  
for strange stuff that would be hard to sell locally


i am javacyclescom on ebay  no dot

I run a bunch of ads on CL all the time and it brings in sales,  
too  but you get a lot more low ballers on CL


I even sell a few things on etsy and should probably expand that venue




thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

www.javaphoto.com
www.javacycles.com
LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE
www.ricktheprinter.com
www.letterpressmachinery.com
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Su-30's at play

[Craig]

On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:02:16 -0500 "Scott Ritchey" 
wrote:

> 
> Airplane porn.  I can't comment on avionics or IR/RF signature, but the
> engines, structures, controls, and low-speed aerodynamics are awesome.  
> Scott
>
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=77e_1389637750

You'd better believe it! WOW!

More than one F-102/F-106 pilot died trying to ride its tail in a missed
landing approach.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Su-30's at play

[Scott Ritchey]

Airplane porn.  I can't comment on avionics or IR/RF signature, but the
engines, structures, controls, and low-speed aerodynamics are awesome.  
Scott



Amazing low speed maneuverability.  
 
 
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=77e_1389637750

 
  Formation Flat Spins!!  The maneuverability is incredible! Riding their
tails at tree top level!

 
Russia Kicks It Up A Notch

 

 

 
 
 
 
 



 
 
 
 
 
 





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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: wow this is nice

[Craig]

On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 03:47:26 + (UTC) roger...@comcast.net wrote:

> I've looked at the pictures and I don't think this is an 81,000+
> mileage car. There are things I see that that just don't look
> completely right.

Like what?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Rich Thomas]

Quite a thesis. You should nail that to a church door.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

it's because shippers like ups and fedex can seriously price segregate as
their marginal cost is miniscule compared to their overall (average) cost
for delivering a package.

let's start the penoff shipping company.  dan penoff goes to walmart and
buys a huffy bicycle with a big baskets for $100.  this bike is such a POS
that it only will last one day.  10 customers come to dan this day, each
with 1 pound packages going to the same place.  he figures overall that his
time is worth about 20 bucks and he'd like some sodas for 5 bucks so $125
makes it work for him.  he charged each customer $12.50 and everyone was
happy

as dan is loading up the bike, mr fergus mac bigshot comes by with 10 1
pound package.  he wants to send them to the same address as the other 10
customers but he knows dan's jew tricks and won't pay that kind of big
money to ship them . dan explains that he is actually a lutheran and offers
to send them for $2 each.  mr mac bigshot counters with 1 dollar each.  dan
looks at his baskets and sees they are more than half empty and takes the
deal.

and this is how dan can sell something for a dollar that he needs to sell
for $12.50 and still comes out way ahead, because the cost of adding more
packages can literally be approaching zero, so anything you get paid to
deliver them is gravy

verstehest?


> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> That's like Harbor Freight. I just nought an electric hoist for my
> convertible that weighs like 50 pounds. The store by me never seems to have
> them in stock.
> 
> $6.99 FedEx shipping. How can they make a profit?
> 
> They had it in stock today anyway. Just picked one up with a 20% off
> coupon and it was on sale...
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>> how much was the post office figure?
>> 
>> shipping is pretty complex but the name of the game is to piggyback
> office
>> someone else's account.  it would be helpful if ebay signed a deal with
> UPS
>> or fedex and then put you on THEIR rate for millions of packages a year.
>> that $250 would suddenly turn into 60 bucks
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I
>>> measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping
>>> computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
>>> 
>>> Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take
> the
>>> box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.
>>> They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got
>>> from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer
> overlords do
>>> not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> UPS ground wants to charge $250 for it.
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[rogerhga]

Well, currently my wife is selling things on eBay with absolutely no problems. 
They offer free listings or really cheap listings. Their shipping works nice, 
ties into USPS, and you can print your labels easily. I agree that in the past 
eBay has been a PITA, but they seem to have changed...maybe the economy has 
forced it or whatever, but it's a nice thing to see. And PayPal has become more 
agreeable to work with as I may move all my credit card processing to them as 
well which should save a few dollars. 
Anyway, just my view from what I currently see. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

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[MBZ] Subject: Re: wow this is nice

[rogerhga]

Well, I would not bid on this car, even if I could. I have a 1980 300SD with 
over 425,000 miles on it. I've looked at the pictures and I don't think this is 
an 81,000+ mileage car. There are things I see that that just don't look 
completely right. But, I wouldn't dismiss it just because of the Chrysler AC 
servo. I've gone through a few and changed a few and when they are working, 
they work just fine. Anyway, it's pretty and shiny, but... 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] Almost want some cheap reliable transportation?

[OK Don]

The only way to economically but a new car is to drive all of the value out
of it. You have to plan to keep it until you can no longer afford the
repairs. Otherwise, you're paying for quickly tarnishing bling.


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> The problem with new cars is depreciation, drive it out the dealer, there
> is a few grand gone, put a scratch or ding on it, there is a few grand gone.
> To me it would be frustrating to be worried about a car like that.
> Cars are there to get you from a to b and should not be worried about too
> much.
> My old merc is pretty reliable, probably more so than the average new car,
> sure I got to show it the spanners now and then.
> I don't really think any modern car will do 200k without having something
> major go south, or at least something that will require a trip to the
> mechanic for $urgery.
>
> Hendrik
> who is depreciating
>
>


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safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
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- Benjamin Franklin 1789
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Almost want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Hendrik and Fay]

The problem with new cars is depreciation, drive it out the dealer, 
there is a few grand gone, put a scratch or ding on it, there is a few 
grand gone.

To me it would be frustrating to be worried about a car like that.
Cars are there to get you from a to b and should not be worried about 
too much.
My old merc is pretty reliable, probably more so than the average new 
car, sure I got to show it the spanners now and then.
I don't really think any modern car will do 200k without having 
something major go south, or at least something that will require a trip 
to the mechanic for $urgery.


Hendrik
who is depreciating

On 04/02/14 12:51, Curt Raymond wrote:

It aint your daddy's Escort.

Just about any car today should provide 200,000 miles more or less trouble free 
with basic maintenance.

The used car market is pretty spendy right now. If I were going to get a much 
newer car I'd almost certainly buy new, with 0.9% financing available its 
almost like being paid to buy a car...

Angie wants me to revisit a new car, I need to test drive a Ford Fiesta with a 
5spd. I've driven them with an auto (I forget what Ford calls their version of 
DSG) and I don't like it. I also don't like the Focus particularly, I've got 
one as a rental this week and it feels more cramped than the physically smaller 
Fiesta.

I'd consider a Passat but probably wouldn't go diesel, I'm not excited about 
DEF and the filter and the problems they have with turbos and the dealer's 
incompetence...

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Crivens...

[Curt Raymond]

Friends don't let friends send HTML emails... ;)

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Crivens...

[Curt Raymond]

The "lid switch" is in fact a lid switch and a "check switch" which is there in 
case the lid switch gets stuck. Its the check switch that failed, its a little 
microswitch, potted shut and exploded when I opened it, no way I can see to 
reassemble without the case being closed, not sure how it was made.

Anyway the assembly is only $60, I'll just get another.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:41:00 -0600
From: Fmiser 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Crivens...
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> Curt wrote:
> 
> I think I'm going to order a lid switch and see if that fixes it,
> if not I'll see about the level switch also.

If it's a switch either force it open or force it close and the
system should respond.

If it then doesn't, there's probably something else amiss too. 

--  Philip
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Crivens...

[Curt Raymond]

I tried that but there are 2 switches so a simple jumper wire doesn't cut it. I 
spent some time looking at the wiring diagram and I think 2 jumpers would work 
but I was jumping the wrong pins.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:50:52 -0500
From: Rich Thomas 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Crivens...
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I bypassed the lid switch on my washing machine years ago when it quit 
working.  No toddlers in the house to climb in so no problem with OSHA 
here.  Plus I like to stare at the agitator doing its thing.

--R


On 2/2/14 2:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> If its not one thing its another.
>
> Angie reported this morning that the washer wouldn't do anything. Sure enough 
> its full of water just hanging out.
> A couple minutes assured me the problem was the lid switch, a $40 
> overcomplicated piece of kit with not one but TWO switches. The small 3 
> position microswitch seems to have quit. I jumpered it out but not the thing 
> just fills and fills and never quits filling which tells me the level switch 
> has quit. Seems odd to me that the level switch would quit at the exact same 
> time as the lid switch.
>
> Nothing else ever happens except filling, I can't get it to agitate or spin 
> or anything which I'm attributing to the dead lid switch.
>
> I think I'm going to order a lid switch and see if that fixes it, if not I'll 
> see about the level switch also.
>
> Thoughts? Its a Maytag LSE7806ACE if that'd help.
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Curt Raymond]

It aint your daddy's Escort.

Just about any car today should provide 200,000 miles more or less trouble free 
with basic maintenance.

The used car market is pretty spendy right now. If I were going to get a much 
newer car I'd almost certainly buy new, with 0.9% financing available its 
almost like being paid to buy a car...

Angie wants me to revisit a new car, I need to test drive a Ford Fiesta with a 
5spd. I've driven them with an auto (I forget what Ford calls their version of 
DSG) and I don't like it. I also don't like the Focus particularly, I've got 
one as a rental this week and it feels more cramped than the physically smaller 
Fiesta.

I'd consider a Passat but probably wouldn't go diesel, I'm not excited about 
DEF and the filter and the problems they have with turbos and the dealer's 
incompetence...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 11:29:06 -0500
From: Gary Hurst 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?
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17,000 but why quibble

i'm actually looking at stuff on CL down here it seems to me you should get
2500.  the ratiest POS  focus wagons have higher asking prices.

maybe the mileage figure just intimidates me more than it should
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Dieselhead]

Could be.  I don't have a point of reference.  I know that most 
Asian cars are kaput by 175k or thereabouts.At least that's when 
repairs start getting expensive.


Then you have the 92 300E 2.6 my oldest son is driving.  Close to 
200k with minimal interaction and it's still going strong...


Dan


DOn't know about frods, but dogde vans will do close to 300k as 
kiddie taxi, and over that as highway vehicle.


Since this frod has lotsa highway miles, i'd guess it is close to 
equivalent to 100k miles on the average frod foci.


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Re: [MBZ] 123's, as in "Would you buy a new production 123?"

[John Reames]

Yup. No changes needed... (W123.133)... Although I wouldn't mind a 300TD(t)



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On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:23, Tim Crone  wrote:

> On Feb 3, 2014 3:00 AM, "Jerry Herrman"  wrote:
>> 
>> As for myself, I would consider a brand new production 123 or a Volvo 240
> just like mine, with no modifications - well, except for air bags, and I'd
> like better fuel economy, so maybe just a small easy-to-replace inexpensive
> computer. Oh, and some upgrades to the . . . . .
> 
> I used to have a 92 940 with a driver's air bag, and I probably still have
> a core from the easy-to-replace computer.
> 
> I'm still not convinced that a 240D is significantly more reliable than
> many modern vehicles that receives similar care and attention, just it's
> much easier to work on - and once you add a rats'-nest of controls for
> safety and emissions retirements I'm not sure that advantage will still be
> present.
> 
> Best,
> Tim
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Re: [MBZ] UPS - was: Fleabay is worthless

[Fmiser]

> Dan wrote:
> 
> I haven't used UPS in years, as they are seriously uncompetitive
> with the other services as far as I'm concerned.  

There's more than just price.  Around here, UPS is the only one
with decent service.  Anything incoming I request UPS, and outgoing
it's certainly the most convenient and dependable.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Dan Penoff]

Could be.  I don't have a point of reference.  I know that most Asian cars are 
kaput by 175k or thereabouts.At least that's when repairs start getting 
expensive.

Then you have the 92 300E 2.6 my oldest son is driving.  Close to 200k with 
minimal interaction and it's still going strong...

Dan


On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> i'm just wondering if that isn't by definition near death mileage
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:

just between us, waht about hte mileage?  i'm old enough to remember when
most of us though 100k miles was a full life for an american car


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:


Don't give up yet.  Out of the eight I'm doing to four who have followed
through to come see it.  And they all want to do it tomorrow afternoon


I don't know about Foci, but the Contour/Cougar/Escort used to have an auto 
tranny which would be considered used up by that mileage.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Gary Hurst]

i'm just wondering if that isn't by definition near death mileage



On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> What about it?  It's got 173k.  Runs like a top and has been very
> reliable.  Worst thing I've had to do to it is replace two of the COPs.
>  Had to do a rear wheel bearing once, too, but that's about 20 minutes of
> work and under $100 of parts from the dealer.
>
> Been a really reliable car for me.  Previous (original) owners appeared to
> be a retired couple who split their lives between Rhode Island and  Hudson,
> FL.  From the looks of the records during their ownership, most of the
> miles were highway miles between here and Rhode Island.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > just between us, waht about hte mileage?  i'm old enough to remember when
> > most of us though 100k miles was a full life for an american car
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> >> Don't give up yet.  Out of the eight I'm doing to four who have followed
> >> through to come see it.  And they all want to do it tomorrow
> afternoon
> >>
> >> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Dan Penoff]

What about it?  It's got 173k.  Runs like a top and has been very reliable.  
Worst thing I've had to do to it is replace two of the COPs.  Had to do a rear 
wheel bearing once, too, but that's about 20 minutes of work and under $100 of 
parts from the dealer.

Been a really reliable car for me.  Previous (original) owners appeared to be a 
retired couple who split their lives between Rhode Island and  Hudson, FL.  
From the looks of the records during their ownership, most of the miles were 
highway miles between here and Rhode Island.

Dan


On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> just between us, waht about hte mileage?  i'm old enough to remember when
> most of us though 100k miles was a full life for an american car
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Don't give up yet.  Out of the eight I'm doing to four who have followed
>> through to come see it.  And they all want to do it tomorrow afternoon
>> 
>> Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Gary Hurst]

just between us, waht about hte mileage?  i'm old enough to remember when
most of us though 100k miles was a full life for an american car


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Don't give up yet.  Out of the eight I'm doing to four who have followed
> through to come see it.  And they all want to do it tomorrow afternoon
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:02 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> > Dan Penoff wrote:
> >> With the deluge of responses (I got four more this morning) I'm
> wondering how much money I've left on the table
> >
> > Only 8?
> > Probably $500 or less.
> > If it were a thousand, the response would likely be massive.
> > But, then again, Stupid Bowl might have reduced shopping activity.
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Dan Penoff]

Don't give up yet.  Out of the eight I'm doing to four who have followed 
through to come see it.  And they all want to do it tomorrow afternoon

Dan


On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:02 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Dan Penoff wrote:
>> With the deluge of responses (I got four more this morning) I'm wondering 
>> how much money I've left on the table
> 
> Only 8?
> Probably $500 or less.
> If it were a thousand, the response would likely be massive.
> But, then again, Stupid Bowl might have reduced shopping activity.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT got to love winter weather

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

Sounds like you need to follow some of your Canuck buddies and head down here 
in the winter.


Or get a block heater instead of making the thing idle cold while you eat 
breakfast.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

With the deluge of responses (I got four more this morning) I'm wondering how 
much money I've left on the table


Only 8?
Probably $500 or less.
If it were a thousand, the response would likely be massive.
But, then again, Stupid Bowl might have reduced shopping activity.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] wow this is nice

[Craig]

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:34:08 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1980-mercedes-300-sd-turbo-diesel-81-k-miles-/171234725771?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27de628f8b&item=171234725771&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
>  

Yes, it is, and well documented, too!

I wonder what it will go for


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Re: [MBZ] wow this is nice

[OK Don]

Unfortunately, everything needs to be re-built because it's been sitting so
long.


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1980-
> mercedes-300-sd-turbo-diesel-81-k-miles-/171234725771?
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Re: [MBZ] wow this is nice

[Dieselhead]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1980-mercedes-300-sd-turbo-diesel-81-k-miles-/171234725771?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27de628f8b&item=171234725771&pt=US_Cars_Trucks


But it is not green!

Nice, but has the evil crypsler acc.

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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Dieselhead]

Maybe there is enough talent on here to launch a new online 
sale/auction site.  Not sure if there is enough programmer talent, 
but I bet we are close.


I'd like a sort of a nationwide CL or some combination of CL and auction.



On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:04:17 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:


 > On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
 >
 > i used to sell a ton of stuff on ebay when we first met, but then the
 > prices went through the roof and the rules became very restrictive,
 > so that was that

 Same here

 Usually they screw over the seller

 They push offering free shipping too I think. I have not sold anything
 in there in years


So do you guys suggest any replacements?

We are looking at downsizing and it would be helpful to get national
coverage on some of our items.


Craig

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[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1980-mercedes-300-sd-turbo-diesel-81-k-miles-/171234725771?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27de628f8b&item=171234725771&pt=US_Cars_Trucks 



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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Now that is a good question.

On 2/3/2014 6:11 PM, Craig wrote:

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:04:17 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:


On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

i used to sell a ton of stuff on ebay when we first met, but then the
prices went through the roof and the rules became very restrictive,
so that was that

Same here

Usually they screw over the seller

They push offering free shipping too I think. I have not sold anything
in there in years

So do you guys suggest any replacements?

We are looking at downsizing and it would be helpful to get national
coverage on some of our items.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Craig]

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:04:17 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> > On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> > 
> > i used to sell a ton of stuff on ebay when we first met, but then the
> > prices went through the roof and the rules became very restrictive,
> > so that was that
>
> Same here
>
> Usually they screw over the seller
>
> They push offering free shipping too I think. I have not sold anything
> in there in years

So do you guys suggest any replacements?

We are looking at downsizing and it would be helpful to get national
coverage on some of our items.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Same here

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
> i used to sell a ton of stuff on ebay when we first met, but then the
> prices went through the roof and the rules became very restrictive, so that
> was that
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>> I have found that ebay's shipping service is typically low, and rarely
>> accurate no matter how closely you describe or measure. I won't use it any
>> more, as I have been burned by it a couple of times. I think it's just
>> another mechanism for them to screw you, which seems to be their Prime
>> Directive any more.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I
>> measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping
>> computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
>>> 
>>> Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take
>> the box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.
>> They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got
>> from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do
>> not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> UPS ground wants to charge $250 for it.
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

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They push offering free shipping too I think. I have not sold anything in there 
in years

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> I have found that ebay's shipping service is typically low, and rarely 
> accurate no matter how closely you describe or measure. I won't use it any 
> more, as I have been burned by it a couple of times. I think it's just 
> another mechanism for them to screw you, which seems to be their Prime 
> Directive any more.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I 
>> measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping 
>> computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
>> 
>> Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take the 
>> box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.  
>> They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got 
>> from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do 
>> not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> UPS ground wants to charge $250 for it.
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

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Usually they screw over the seller

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay. I measure 
>> it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping computer.  It 
>> spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
>> 
>> Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take the 
>> box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.  
>> They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got 
>> from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do 
>> not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> UPS ground wants to charge $250 for it.
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>  
> 
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> misrepresenting product, and their inability to communicate. Only time I have 
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Dan Penoff]

I am well aware of how they do it - it's the poor sap who is paying $35 for the 
little envelope to get there tomorrow morning by 10:00 am that's more or less 
subsidizing the rest of the business.

With FedEx, you also have the added benefit of contracting some services out, 
like FedEx Ground.  Those guys are franchisees, just like someone who owns a 
Dunkin Donuts.  They contract for the routes and the more they have, the more 
they can make.  And it removes the overhead for the parent company.

I haven't used UPS in years, as they are seriously uncompetitive with the other 
services as far as I'm concerned.  The USPS, while it bleeds cash, is really 
stepping up with its Priority Mail service.  I sent 11 convertible top 
hydraulic cylinders in a large priority Mail box to Oregon.  Cost me something 
like $16, I dropped it off at the USPO on Friday afternoon it it was in Oregon 
for delivery the next day.  The cylinder guy did the rebuild on Monday, missed 
the cutoff so they didn't go out from him until Tuesday, and I had them back in 
my possession on Thursday.

All of that for roughly $30 round trip.

Of course the USPS has contracted their stuff out to the major air carriers for 
years, so they're just leveraging their existing relationship with the airlines 
for the stuff they don't transport themselves.

Dan not a shipping magnate


On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> it's because shippers like ups and fedex can seriously price segregate as
> their marginal cost is miniscule compared to their overall (average) cost
> for delivering a package.
> 
> let's start the penoff shipping company.  dan penoff goes to walmart and
> buys a huffy bicycle with a big baskets for $100.  this bike is such a POS
> that it only will last one day.  10 customers come to dan this day, each
> with 1 pound packages going to the same place.  he figures overall that his
> time is worth about 20 bucks and he'd like some sodas for 5 bucks so $125
> makes it work for him.  he charged each customer $12.50 and everyone was
> happy
> 
> as dan is loading up the bike, mr fergus mac bigshot comes by with 10 1
> pound package.  he wants to send them to the same address as the other 10
> customers but he knows dan's jew tricks and won't pay that kind of big
> money to ship them . dan explains that he is actually a lutheran and offers
> to send them for $2 each.  mr mac bigshot counters with 1 dollar each.  dan
> looks at his baskets and sees they are more than half empty and takes the
> deal.
> 
> and this is how dan can sell something for a dollar that he needs to sell
> for $12.50 and still comes out way ahead, because the cost of adding more
> packages can literally be approaching zero, so anything you get paid to
> deliver them is gravy
> 
> verstehest?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> That's like Harbor Freight. I just nought an electric hoist for my
>> convertible that weighs like 50 pounds. The store by me never seems to have
>> them in stock.
>> 
>> $6.99 FedEx shipping. How can they make a profit?
>> 
>> They had it in stock today anyway. Just picked one up with a 20% off
>> coupon and it was on sale...
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>>> 
>>> how much was the post office figure?
>>> 
>>> shipping is pretty complex but the name of the game is to piggyback
>> office
>>> someone else's account.  it would be helpful if ebay signed a deal with
>> UPS
>>> or fedex and then put you on THEIR rate for millions of packages a year.
>>> that $250 would suddenly turn into 60 bucks
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:
 
 I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I
 measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping
 computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
 
 Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take
>> the
 box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.
 They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got
 from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer
>> overlords do
 not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
 
 clay
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Gary Hurst]

it's because shippers like ups and fedex can seriously price segregate as
their marginal cost is miniscule compared to their overall (average) cost
for delivering a package.

let's start the penoff shipping company.  dan penoff goes to walmart and
buys a huffy bicycle with a big baskets for $100.  this bike is such a POS
that it only will last one day.  10 customers come to dan this day, each
with 1 pound packages going to the same place.  he figures overall that his
time is worth about 20 bucks and he'd like some sodas for 5 bucks so $125
makes it work for him.  he charged each customer $12.50 and everyone was
happy

as dan is loading up the bike, mr fergus mac bigshot comes by with 10 1
pound package.  he wants to send them to the same address as the other 10
customers but he knows dan's jew tricks and won't pay that kind of big
money to ship them . dan explains that he is actually a lutheran and offers
to send them for $2 each.  mr mac bigshot counters with 1 dollar each.  dan
looks at his baskets and sees they are more than half empty and takes the
deal.

and this is how dan can sell something for a dollar that he needs to sell
for $12.50 and still comes out way ahead, because the cost of adding more
packages can literally be approaching zero, so anything you get paid to
deliver them is gravy

verstehest?


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> That's like Harbor Freight. I just nought an electric hoist for my
> convertible that weighs like 50 pounds. The store by me never seems to have
> them in stock.
>
> $6.99 FedEx shipping. How can they make a profit?
>
> They had it in stock today anyway. Just picked one up with a 20% off
> coupon and it was on sale...
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> >
> > how much was the post office figure?
> >
> > shipping is pretty complex but the name of the game is to piggyback
> office
> > someone else's account.  it would be helpful if ebay signed a deal with
> UPS
> > or fedex and then put you on THEIR rate for millions of packages a year.
> > that $250 would suddenly turn into 60 bucks
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I
> >> measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping
> >> computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
> >>
> >> Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take
> the
> >> box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.
> >> They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got
> >> from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer
> overlords do
> >> not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
> >>
> >> clay
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

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On 03/02/2014 3:45 PM, clay wrote:

I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I measure 
it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping computer.  It spits 
out that this is ok, and I post the thing.

Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take the box 
to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.  They will  
not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got from the fleabay 
thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do not behave in 
compliance with their meat bag masters.

clay

UPS ground wants to charge $250 for it.


Or take it to a different post office and see if they view it differently?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Randy Bennell]

On 03/02/2014 3:45 PM, clay wrote:

I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I measure 
it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping computer.  It spits 
out that this is ok, and I post the thing.

Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take the box 
to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.  They will  
not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got from the fleabay 
thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do not behave in 
compliance with their meat bag masters.

clay

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So, what does a console for a 107 look like?
Does it come apart in any manner?
Can you ship it in 2 boxes instead of 1 and beat the system?

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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Dan Penoff]

That's like Harbor Freight. I just nought an electric hoist for my convertible 
that weighs like 50 pounds. The store by me never seems to have them in stock.

$6.99 FedEx shipping. How can they make a profit?

They had it in stock today anyway. Just picked one up with a 20% off coupon and 
it was on sale...

Dan

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> On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
> how much was the post office figure?
> 
> shipping is pretty complex but the name of the game is to piggyback office
> someone else's account.  it would be helpful if ebay signed a deal with UPS
> or fedex and then put you on THEIR rate for millions of packages a year.
> that $250 would suddenly turn into 60 bucks
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I
>> measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping
>> computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
>> 
>> Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take the
>> box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.
>> They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got
>> from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do
>> not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Gary Hurst]

i used to sell a ton of stuff on ebay when we first met, but then the
prices went through the roof and the rules became very restrictive, so that
was that


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> I have found that ebay's shipping service is typically low, and rarely
> accurate no matter how closely you describe or measure. I won't use it any
> more, as I have been burned by it a couple of times. I think it's just
> another mechanism for them to screw you, which seems to be their Prime
> Directive any more.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:
> >
> > I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I
> measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping
> computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
> >
> > Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take
> the box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.
>  They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got
> from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do
> not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
> >
> > clay
> >
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[MBZ] Zombie cannon?

[clay]

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1yeM0i/:1e2tcIEtr:LdD!3VUE/thoughtsandrantings.com/2012/02/03/video-gun-porn-950-caliber-rifle/

At $40 a shot, this could solve a host of problems

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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Dan Penoff]

I have found that ebay's shipping service is typically low, and rarely accurate 
no matter how closely you describe or measure. I won't use it any more, as I 
have been burned by it a couple of times. I think it's just another mechanism 
for them to screw you, which seems to be their Prime Directive any more.

Dan

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> On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:
> 
> I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I measure 
> it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping computer.  It 
> spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
> 
> Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take the 
> box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.  They 
> will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got from the 
> fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do not behave 
> in compliance with their meat bag masters.
> 
> clay
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Gary Hurst]

how much was the post office figure?

shipping is pretty complex but the name of the game is to piggyback off
someone else's account.  it would be helpful if ebay signed a deal with UPS
or fedex and then put you on THEIR rate for millions of packages a year.
that $250 would suddenly turn into 60 bucks


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM, clay  wrote:

> I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I
> measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping
> computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the thing.
>
> Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take the
> box to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.
>  They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got
> from the fleabay thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do
> not behave in compliance with their meat bag masters.
>
> clay
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[Dieselhead]

I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay. 
I measure it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their 
shipping computer.  It spits out that this is ok, and I post the 
thing.


Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I 
take the box to the post office and they give me garbage about it 
will not ship.  They will  not take it.  THEIR computer spits out 
the same postage I got from the fleabay thing and now it does not 
work.  The computer overlords do not behave in compliance with their 
meat bag masters.


clay

UPS ground wants to charge $250 for it.
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you can always call up the fleaby customer service and explain the 
problem.  I am sure they will happily will fix the problem and make 
it right with you.   


they screwed me out of $1000 about a year ago because of a scumbag 
seller misrepresenting product, and their inability to communicate. 
Only time I have heard of them siding with the seller.


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[MBZ] Fleabay is worthless

[clay]

I have a palomino center console for a R107 I put on the fleabay.   I measure 
it up and box it, then put the dimensions in their shipping computer.  It spits 
out that this is ok, and I post the thing.

Dude wins the bid and the shipping computer spits out a price.  I take the box 
to the post office and they give me garbage about it will not ship.  They will  
not take it.  THEIR computer spits out the same postage I got from the fleabay 
thing and now it does not work.  The computer overlords do not behave in 
compliance with their meat bag masters.

clay

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Re: [MBZ] OT got to love winter weather

[WILTON]

71 F at Goldsboro, NC, today.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT got to love winter weather


Sounds like you need to follow some of your Canuck buddies and head down 
here in the winter.


It will be in the 80s all week here. Drove the SL500 today so I could 
drive with the top down on the way home...


Dan


On Feb 3, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

Filled up the truck this morning.
Calculated my fuel mileage for this tank.
10.2 mpg and that is on an Imperal gallon. (I am old school - liters per 
hundred kilometers is sort of meaningless to me althought the truck 
calculates and displays the infor for that.)
Of course, so far January is the coldest in something like 24 years and 
the snow is deep enough and often enough to encourage the use of 4WD on a 
regular basis.
Plus this truck has command start so it has often made 0 mpg while 
warming up in the mornings.
I tell myself that it is good for the truck to warm up a bit and thus 
worth paying the tab but I would rather have it warm up some.
Paying the toll on the electric bill as well given both my truck and her 
car have the block heaters plugged in every night.

Oh well, only another 2 or 3 months until spring.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT got to love winter weather

[Randy Bennell]

I assume most of the Canadians buying property in AZ hope it goes back 
up in value to where it was a few years ago. Then they have the best of 
both worlds - a vacation home in the south where it is warm, and a nice 
gain because they bought low and may sell high. The down side of that is 
the tax issues that go along with it.


Randy

On 03/02/2014 3:02 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

Or, you could choose the AZ where many of your compatriots are buying up
real estate like it's going out of style.
I appreciate their bolstering the housing market. I just made money selling
my house.

Bob R
On Feb 3, 2014 1:35 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:


No kidding!

Randy

On 03/02/2014 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:


Sounds like you need to follow some of your Canuck buddies and head down
here in the winter.

It will be in the 80s all week here. Drove the SL500 today so I could
drive with the top down on the way home...

Dan

  On Feb 3, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

Filled up the truck this morning.
Calculated my fuel mileage for this tank.
10.2 mpg and that is on an Imperal gallon. (I am old school - liters per
hundred kilometers is sort of meaningless to me althought the truck
calculates and displays the infor for that.)
Of course, so far January is the coldest in something like 24 years and
the snow is deep enough and often enough to encourage the use of 4WD on a
regular basis.
Plus this truck has command start so it has often made 0 mpg while
warming up in the mornings.
I tell myself that it is good for the truck to warm up a bit and thus
worth paying the tab but I would rather have it warm up some.
Paying the toll on the electric bill as well given both my truck and her
car have the block heaters plugged in every night.
Oh well, only another 2 or 3 months until spring.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT got to love winter weather

[Bob Rentfro]

Or, you could choose the AZ where many of your compatriots are buying up
real estate like it's going out of style.
I appreciate their bolstering the housing market. I just made money selling
my house.

Bob R
On Feb 3, 2014 1:35 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

> No kidding!
>
> Randy
>
> On 03/02/2014 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you need to follow some of your Canuck buddies and head down
>> here in the winter.
>>
>> It will be in the 80s all week here. Drove the SL500 today so I could
>> drive with the top down on the way home...
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>  On Feb 3, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>>>
>>> Filled up the truck this morning.
>>> Calculated my fuel mileage for this tank.
>>> 10.2 mpg and that is on an Imperal gallon. (I am old school - liters per
>>> hundred kilometers is sort of meaningless to me althought the truck
>>> calculates and displays the infor for that.)
>>> Of course, so far January is the coldest in something like 24 years and
>>> the snow is deep enough and often enough to encourage the use of 4WD on a
>>> regular basis.
>>> Plus this truck has command start so it has often made 0 mpg while
>>> warming up in the mornings.
>>> I tell myself that it is good for the truck to warm up a bit and thus
>>> worth paying the tab but I would rather have it warm up some.
>>> Paying the toll on the electric bill as well given both my truck and her
>>> car have the block heaters plugged in every night.
>>> Oh well, only another 2 or 3 months until spring.
>>>
>>> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT got to love winter weather

[Randy Bennell]

No kidding!

Randy

On 03/02/2014 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Sounds like you need to follow some of your Canuck buddies and head down here 
in the winter.

It will be in the 80s all week here. Drove the SL500 today so I could drive 
with the top down on the way home...

Dan


On Feb 3, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

Filled up the truck this morning.
Calculated my fuel mileage for this tank.
10.2 mpg and that is on an Imperal gallon. (I am old school - liters per 
hundred kilometers is sort of meaningless to me althought the truck calculates 
and displays the infor for that.)
Of course, so far January is the coldest in something like 24 years and the 
snow is deep enough and often enough to encourage the use of 4WD on a regular 
basis.
Plus this truck has command start so it has often made 0 mpg while warming up 
in the mornings.
I tell myself that it is good for the truck to warm up a bit and thus worth 
paying the tab but I would rather have it warm up some.
Paying the toll on the electric bill as well given both my truck and her car 
have the block heaters plugged in every night.
Oh well, only another 2 or 3 months until spring.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT got to love winter weather

[Dan Penoff]

Sounds like you need to follow some of your Canuck buddies and head down here 
in the winter.

It will be in the 80s all week here. Drove the SL500 today so I could drive 
with the top down on the way home...

Dan

> On Feb 3, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> 
> Filled up the truck this morning.
> Calculated my fuel mileage for this tank.
> 10.2 mpg and that is on an Imperal gallon. (I am old school - liters per 
> hundred kilometers is sort of meaningless to me althought the truck 
> calculates and displays the infor for that.)
> Of course, so far January is the coldest in something like 24 years and the 
> snow is deep enough and often enough to encourage the use of 4WD on a regular 
> basis.
> Plus this truck has command start so it has often made 0 mpg while warming up 
> in the mornings.
> I tell myself that it is good for the truck to warm up a bit and thus worth 
> paying the tab but I would rather have it warm up some.
> Paying the toll on the electric bill as well given both my truck and her car 
> have the block heaters plugged in every night.
> Oh well, only another 2 or 3 months until spring.
> 
> Randy
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[MBZ] OT got to love winter weather

[Randy Bennell]

Filled up the truck this morning.
Calculated my fuel mileage for this tank.
10.2 mpg and that is on an Imperal gallon. (I am old school - liters per 
hundred kilometers is sort of meaningless to me althought the truck 
calculates and displays the infor for that.)
Of course, so far January is the coldest in something like 24 years and 
the snow is deep enough and often enough to encourage the use of 4WD on 
a regular basis.
Plus this truck has command start so it has often made 0 mpg while 
warming up in the mornings.
I tell myself that it is good for the truck to warm up a bit and thus 
worth paying the tab but I would rather have it warm up some.
Paying the toll on the electric bill as well given both my truck and her 
car have the block heaters plugged in every night.

Oh well, only another 2 or 3 months until spring.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Dan Penoff]

I guess I'll leave money on the table. I would rather move it quickly than have 
to wade through the tire kickers, lowballers, etc., that I would otherwise 
encounter.

I need the driveway space. Bad.

Dan

> On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
> 17,000 but why quibble
> 
> i'm actually looking at stuff on CL down here it seems to me you should get
> 2500.  the ratiest POS  focus wagons have higher asking prices.
> 
> maybe the mileage figure just intimidates me more than it should
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>> Sure. I'll sell it to you for $4000 - list discount price.
>> 
>> If Gary wants it, the price is $16,000 (inside joke - just kidding, Gary!)
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
 On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Richard Hattaway 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Someone told me there's a $5000 car available here.  Is there any way I
>> can get in on the action??
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, February 3, 2014 9:07 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>>> 
>>> With the deluge of responses (I got four more this morning) I'm
>> wondering how much money I've left on the table
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
 On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
 
 Dan Penoff wrote:
> Thanks, but as of 9:00 last night I had four people contact me to see
>> the car today. One even wanted to PayPal me a deposit.
> If I can get my asking price I'm going that route, as I'm sure you can
>> understandfrom the looks of things it will be sold today.
 
 2500 is probably good.
 That's what I was planning on spending to get it to Michigan.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Gary Hurst]

17,000 but why quibble

i'm actually looking at stuff on CL down here it seems to me you should get
2500.  the ratiest POS  focus wagons have higher asking prices.

maybe the mileage figure just intimidates me more than it should


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Sure. I'll sell it to you for $4000 - list discount price.
>
> If Gary wants it, the price is $16,000 (inside joke - just kidding, Gary!)
>
> Dan
>
> > On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Richard Hattaway 
> wrote:
> >
> > Someone told me there's a $5000 car available here.  Is there any way I
> can get in on the action??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, February 3, 2014 9:07 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> > With the deluge of responses (I got four more this morning) I'm
> wondering how much money I've left on the table
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dan Penoff wrote:
> >>> Thanks, but as of 9:00 last night I had four people contact me to see
> the car today. One even wanted to PayPal me a deposit.
> >>> If I can get my asking price I'm going that route, as I'm sure you can
> understandfrom the looks of things it will be sold today.
> >>
> >> 2500 is probably good.
> >> That's what I was planning on spending to get it to Michigan.
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Re: [MBZ] GPS Wuz: Snowplow drivers stop to change underwear

[WILTON]

ATTABOY!

Wilt


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GPS Wuz: Snowplow drivers stop to change underwear


The day a few years back I got hit by a Sprinter van (Benz content) while 
on my bike, earlier I got buzzed VERY closely by an AT&T phone van, Sunday 
morning, time and place known.  On Monday morning I was in a very foul 
mood and called AT&T HQ legal dept demanding the name of the driver so I 
could get him charged for harassment under the bike law.


A very short time later the regional supervisor calls me, tells me he is 
on it and will get back to me once he gets it sorted.  Coupla days later 
he calls, said he had met with the driver and his union rep.  Driver 
denied having done it.  Supervisor shows him gps records, speeds ( slow 
while following me then speeds up  to pass and brakes in front of me then 
speeds off) time, location, exactly as I had said.  Union rep confers with 
his boy, who suddenly had a memory reset.  Driver on probation, please let 
them handle it, etc etc.


I let it go but was quite impressed with the technology.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

I was working a termination hearing at the school board last year where 
they used a GPS as part of the grounds to terminate an employee.  Someone 
had this guy's number, so it was only one of a number of things they were 
throwing at him.  He took a "short cut" to a school site from his shop and 
stopped for 53 seconds on a side street to talk to someone (there was 
another worker in the van. who corroborated the story.)


Supposedly when they put GPS' in the District vehicles the union had the 
District agree in contract that the GPS data could not be used to dismiss 
an employee.  Interestingly, the union didn't challenge this guy's 
termination.


Hmm.


Dan



On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

GPS in trucks was available 25 years ago.  Friend of mine owned a small 
trucking company then.  He also owned the first MB truck in the region. 
He had GPS on the trucks about 25 years ago.  He told the drivers the GS 
was there, what it will show, and not to deviate off path or they'd be 
fired.  One driver drove 15-20 miles out of the way and went to a casino. 
He got fired as soon as he got to the terminal.


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Dan Penoff]

Sure. I'll sell it to you for $4000 - list discount price.

If Gary wants it, the price is $16,000 (inside joke - just kidding, Gary!)

Dan

> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Richard Hattaway  wrote:
> 
> Someone told me there's a $5000 car available here.  Is there any way I can 
> get in on the action??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, February 3, 2014 9:07 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> With the deluge of responses (I got four more this morning) I'm wondering how 
> much money I've left on the table
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan Penoff wrote:
>>> Thanks, but as of 9:00 last night I had four people contact me to see the 
>>> car today. One even wanted to PayPal me a deposit.
>>> If I can get my asking price I'm going that route, as I'm sure you can 
>>> understandfrom the looks of things it will be sold today.
>> 
>> 2500 is probably good.
>> That's what I was planning on spending to get it to Michigan.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Richard Hattaway]

Someone told me there's a $5000 car available here.  Is there any way I can get 
in on the action??







On Monday, February 3, 2014 9:07 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
 
With the deluge of responses (I got four more this morning) I'm wondering how 
much money I've left on the table

Dan

> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> 
> Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Thanks, but as of 9:00 last night I had four people contact me to see the 
>> car today. One even wanted to PayPal me a deposit.
>> If I can get my asking price I'm going that route, as I'm sure you can 
>> understandfrom the looks of things it will be sold today.
> 
> 2500 is probably good.
> That's what I was planning on spending to get it to Michigan.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Dan Penoff]

With the deluge of responses (I got four more this morning) I'm wondering how 
much money I've left on the table

Dan

> On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> 
> Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Thanks, but as of 9:00 last night I had four people contact me to see the 
>> car today. One even wanted to PayPal me a deposit.
>> If I can get my asking price I'm going that route, as I'm sure you can 
>> understandfrom the looks of things it will be sold today.
> 
> 2500 is probably good.
> That's what I was planning on spending to get it to Michigan.
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

Thanks, but as of 9:00 last night I had four people contact me to see the car 
today. One even wanted to PayPal me a deposit.

If I can get my asking price I'm going that route, as I'm sure you can 
understandfrom the looks of things it will be sold today.


2500 is probably good.
That's what I was planning on spending to get it to Michigan.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want some cheap reliable transportation?

[Dan Penoff]

Thanks, but as of 9:00 last night I had four people contact me to see the car 
today. One even wanted to PayPal me a deposit.

If I can get my asking price I'm going that route, as I'm sure you can 
understandfrom the looks of things it will be sold today.

Dan

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> On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> 
> Dan Penoff wrote:
>> If I get $2k out of it I would be happy.
> 
> How about $2050 via Paypal tonight?
> That's what I paid for the 4matic wagon with no butt dent in the driver's 
> leather.
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Re: [MBZ] Snowplow drivers stop to change underwear

[Rick Knoble]

Uh. No.   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Mountain ManSent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 7:24 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Snowplow drivers stop to change underwearRick wrote:> I thought being married to your ex-wife was your definition of hell...>You're married to Grant's ex-wife?

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Re: [MBZ] 123's, as in "Would you buy a new production 123?"

[Tim Crone]

On Feb 3, 2014 3:00 AM, "Jerry Herrman"  wrote:
>
> As for myself, I would consider a brand new production 123 or a Volvo 240
just like mine, with no modifications - well, except for air bags, and I'd
like better fuel economy, so maybe just a small easy-to-replace inexpensive
computer. Oh, and some upgrades to the . . . . .

I used to have a 92 940 with a driver's air bag, and I probably still have
a core from the easy-to-replace computer.

I'm still not convinced that a 240D is significantly more reliable than
many modern vehicles that receives similar care and attention, just it's
much easier to work on - and once you add a rats'-nest of controls for
safety and emissions retirements I'm not sure that advantage will still be
present.

Best,
Tim
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[MBZ] 123's, as in "Would you buy a new production 123?"

[Jerry Herrman]

This discussion reminds me of similar discussions of several generations ago 
carried out in the "Letters To The Editor" section of magazines such as Popular 
Mechanics and Popular Science; the car under discussion being the Ford Model A. 
One reader would praise it and reflect that, if offered, he would buy a brand 
new production Model A just like the one he (or his dad) used to own - with 
absolutely no modifications or increase in price. Then someone would write in 
to agree, but would insist on just one change - hydraulic brakes. Next, someone 
would write in to say, for example, that a certain relative of his would still 
be alive after a crash if the gas tank had not been right in front of the 
driver, hence that modification would be necessay. After a few more urgently 
needed modifications, the desired car would no longer be the old trusty 
original Model A.
As for myself, I would consider a brand new production 123 or a Volvo 240 just 
like mine, with no modifications - well, except for air bags, and I'd like 
better fuel economy, so maybe just a small easy-to-replace inexpensive 
computer. Oh, and some upgrades to the . . . . .

Jerry
82 240D


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