Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
+1 -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: April 6, 2014 12:22:22 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update I suspect you have a bad oil pressure gauge problem, not a low oil pressure problem. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: More Political Statement for the Day plus Battery Tender Jr.
I bought one of those at HF years ago. It did diddly. Not sure if it was defective or just ineffective. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I thought about getting one of those solar chargers that plugs into the cig lighter for my cars that are not driven regularly. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2014, at 3:01 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to pass along a tip on storing cars and batteries. First, let's just say I have a lot of cars. Not exactly an Okie Acres of parts cars since they run and are active [sort of]. Some time ago I came across the idea of disconnecting the battery when a car was long term [or short term] parked. After a few episodes of wrenches and battery clamps etc.. I discovered Harbor Freight sells two different battery connect switches, one light weight and one heavy weight . I then started installing them on each vehicle on the ground cable. [ no ground = no completed circuit = battery is out of system] It takes fabrication of a mount bracket to hold the switch [pretty simple] and one piece of lug to lug battery cable [same size as the existing ground cable. Now all I have to do is lift the hood, turn the disconnect switch, and I'm done. Battery will self discharge about 1 to 1/2 amp per month just setting so I wired in a quick connect to a small solar panel which puts in a bit of charge. The panel is mounted in the shop window and gets afternoon sun.. for about 4 hrs a day.. it's hooked to a harness of low voltage wire [landscape lighting] that goes to each parking spot and trickles each battery a bit each day. To date... no low battery storage issues.. when I want to drive, take off cover, lift hood, flip switch to connect and start car.. Total cost per car, less than $25. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: OT: Received from #3 stepchild last evening: Got a $2 hr raise, just in time for Obamacare to take it away!! She works for a car dealership in CA, presumably a small business. It's anecdotal, of course, but I have more confidence in reports from known sources than in statistics from the media. Being over 65, I don't have first-hand experience with ACA. MBZ content: The 300SD gets little use these days so started using a Battery Tender Jr. to keep the battery charged. Previously I put the big charger on it periodically but the battery would still self-discharge a significant amount between charges, thus reducing battery life. So far I'm pleased with the Battery Tender. I think anyone that owns older vehicles needs to own at least one battery charger and sufficient extension cords. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Peter, I'm guessing you've never lived in a country with nationalized health care. My wife's family is Italian. Italy has what I think you think you want. My wife has explained to me how awful the health care in Italy is. If you have the misfortune to be hospitalized, be prepared to be ignored, misdiagnosed, share your room with at least one other patient and no privacy, terrible food (a crime in itself in Italy), and given the wrong medications. In short, every sin we find in all organizations run by the government are found in the healthcare system. Last time my father-in-law was hospitalized, a family member was basically assigned to guard him 24/7, and every treatment or test the staff offered was first considered by the entire family and if possible conferred with distant relatives in the medical field. All his meals were cooked at home or bought at a nearby restaurant. Many people will pay hundreds extra per day for a private nurse to attend their family member. The only advantage the Italian system has is lower costs, including especially drugs, and their pharmacists can prescribe medication. If one can afford it, they go to private hospitals and pay from their pocket. I NEVER want to see such a terrible thing happen to our country. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: April 6, 2014 12:20:45 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had This experience is why we need a single payer or national health service, like the rest of the civilized world. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
Your car is toast. I'll take it off your hands next time I'm down there. I can give you $400 scrap value;) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The 1985 300TD that had been sitting with the dead battery has a new lease on life, as the 2009 Diehard 850 CCA battery was in fact toast. Sears replaced it under warranty ($70 credit). So now there's a new problem, an engine whine that kicks in around 1800 RPM. The pitch varies with the RPM, both up and down. The noise is remarkably like a police squad siren, but is tolerable at higher vehicle speeds. I am somewhat bummed out because I already had similar symptoms not that long ago and solved it by replacing a damaged turbocharger (with a used one). This is the CA version car with the trap oxidizer. Is it possible that something else might be to blame? Alternator whine? Transmission? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] HF Welder: Any Good?
Part of my job when I got out of high school and was going to tech school was rebuilding Miller 400 amp buzz boxes and Lincoln Pipeliners. My employer would buy a whole tractor trailer load of the Millers from Chicago Bridge and Iron, and they would be stacked up four high in the shop while I went through them, testing, repairing and scrapping as required. These were three phase 400 amp stick welders used for welding 1/4 plate and thicker. Easy to pull an arc and have a big puddle. The Pipeliners weren't as common, but they came in, too. Those got engine and control work done on them as well. My favorites were the motor-generator welders, most Lincolns, which would also come in by the truckload. Big sausage/torpedo shaped things, they were a lesson in simplicity and ruggedness. Rarely ever needed a fix other than possibly a set of brushes or to have their fields flashed if they had been sitting for a long time. Love that stuff. So simple and rugged. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 11:01 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Copy all. Thanks! My welding experience is dated (1960s/70s) and it was mostly stick welding but I always got better results with a MIG machine. FWIW, that particular HF machine was 220V but that's no help if the arc isn't stable or the feed is jerky. I'll keep looking. I loved welding with 6010 rods driven by a 220V motor generator. THAT was a stable arc! My century 110V FC wire welder is a lot more portable, but it works on some projects, and not on others. I would avoid HF FC wire. YMMV I never had the money/space for a motor gen, or the juice to run one. But they sure are NICE! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
You really need to just put a mechanical gauge that you know is good on the oil system. That way you know for sure what's going on. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Well you can see in the video I removed the oil cap with it running, almost no blowby at all, very very minimal. I just can't believe there is a low oil pressure problem, engine seems to healthy. On 4/5/2014 10:47 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Wow that 617.910 sounds great!! I bet blow by is minimal as well. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: So I pulled the pressure relief valve, it seems to move fine, had plenty of tension so it appears to be working as far as I can tell. Put it back in, put pan back on, new filter, fresh diesel oil. Pressure pegs when cold. Ran it for a bit in the driveway got it up to operating temp. See if you can see this video below. The pressure shown at idle is with AC on FIY. I rev it up to what I figure is about 2k-3k RPM and it pegs. Anyway, I am not sure if anything is wrong or not, could just be low due to gauge, but I think what is showing on the gauge in the video is at the bottom end of the spec, if it is in fact the actual pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBH9206SCQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
i avoid the doctors and their extortionist monopoly, yes, i do, i do On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: The chronic poor have a good go at cheap healthcare, as they cannot get blood from a turnip, as you mention. Personal experience, in an ER while my son was having a toe sewn back on ( too many beers, rough deck on the beach house ), was a woman there who was sick, and needed help. She was not dying, but I think she wishes she was. It was obvious that they were ignoring her. Maybe she comes in every week, who knows.. but the experience I had was that she got her friend to take her home. Her comment was that when she called the ambulance to bring her back, they would see her asap, where as now she was having to wait. She didn't give a chit about what it was going to cost, as she wasn't paying for it anyway. My concern is the family that lives in a modest house or apartment, lives from paycheck to paycheck, must give up something to buy something else, and has no hope of every improving. This describes a large piece of our country's population. They cannot afford a sudden negative change of $150 in their paycheck. It will have to come from food, or gas, or housing. That's the only thing they spend money on. Many of these don't have health insurance, and cannot afford ACA stuff, even though they must find the money or be fined by POTUS. These folks have a phone, and are aware of credit ratings, and know that when the hungry hospital administrator calls, he is going to force them to make a decision on what they can live without. And they will do the best they can to get the bill paid, because they are the backbone of America. The *FELONY* here is that they do not get the same charges as I do, for instance, because I have the largest medical service negotiator known on this earth negotiating for me. If I got what I get without insurance, I'd consider not having insurance, as it is not all that bad, as long as you're healthy. And of course I am talking about insurance here, and I have a strong positive feeling that it should be only for catastrophic care.. I cannot do that, as I've been paying my insurer so long that I get what I get and nothing less. If someone wants to live without any insurance, then have at it. I've seen my then 3 yr old grandson's bill cross the 7 figure line in 2004, and have known a whole pile of healthy folks that have gone to the hospital for something 'minor' and come out with a new appreciation of the fact that the insurance allowed them to keep their car and house. So I believe in insurance and I also believe in healthcare as Dan suggests. Plus if you do Dan's healthcare plan, and have minimal insurance then you also have the negotiation power that is so important today to keep your medical bills at a reasonable level. There is absolutely no justification for the situation Hursty describes.. if you'd do this job for $42 for aetna, why are you asking me for $150? It's obvious Gary has not been to the doctor in a while.. now the ratio is Aetna $42, individual $736.. On Friday, April 4, 2014 7:26 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: The thing I don't get is that this 'mentality' protects the folks who can afford healthcare insurance ( wealthier ) while shafting the poor... The poor cannot be taken to court for non payment, can they? If a poor person files as bankrupt and there are no assets, what can be taken? Bankrupt is supposed to take value from the poor to pay for debt but if there are no assets the debt goes unpaid, hence, perhaps the poor are better off for hospital-care? Bankruptcy cannot leave a person destitute at the street in the gutter, can it? Doesn't bankruptcy allow a person to be left with a modicum of day to day living essentials? Thanks barrister Randy and barrister Grant. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
saddest thing i've heard all week On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: you need a hobby to occupy your mind My hobby is called okiebenz. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
yes On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:17 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Florsheim? ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it? i concur, although i was too cheap at the end of the day to buy them and ended up with johnston murphy instead. that was 25 years ago as i have so little use for real shoes for my dad, there was but one brand of shoe, floorchime, but they have long ago been all imported my understanding is that most johnston and murphy and many allen edmunds are now made offshore. really, there is no US shoe industry left as off the top of my head i can only add alden and a few new balance to the two above off the top of my head as USA shoes On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Just like my dress shoes. Two words: Allen Edmonds Newest pair is 16 years old. Oldest pair in excess of 20. Need to break down and buy a new pair of black loafers this year. Will probably cost me $300 unless I go to Port Washington this summer and attend their tent sale. Money very well spent. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a pair of made in the USA Red Wings and a pair of made in Italy hiking boots which are in fact my daily footwear. After 3 years my hikers need new soles. I'm debating seeing if I can find somebody to do the job or paying LL Bean for another pair. For dress shoes I have a pair of Italian shoes. I bought all the footwear listed above in 1 year and paid more than I'd paid in the previous 10. It was totally worth it. -Curt Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 22:40:09 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it? Message-ID: calk3cy6godtep5g_ph8deavth4_l61+da1ylckzi+psu47x...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt wrote: I won't go back to cheap socks, my feet are too important to me. Chinese merino wool? Thanks for recommending darntough socks. What leather do you wear over the socks? I wear Red Wing carefully because they have lines that are china. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
both the states of florida and georgia are charging me 4 figures a month for child support for a child who lives with me and neither state finds it odd that my ex wife ought to be paid well into the 5 figures even though that child doesn't live with her. neither state feels that she should ever pay any support of the child. neither state will hear of changing this. no one i speak with in family law practice or child support collections or the courts finds this in any way strange, including 2 judges my thought is that the entire child support thing is a euphemism for angry women who want revenge for their angry marriages On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:59 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Non-payment of child support is taken far more seriously than non-payment of ordinary debt, and most states that I know of will jail a person for that and then release them after a variable length of time. I knew a retired sailor living in Florida that California was trying to find and jail for non-support of his grown daughter. He had never made support payments and his debt was in the thousands. Gerry On 4/4/2014 10:14 PM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote: I know somebody who is in 'debtors prison' in Battle Creek Michigan as I type this. They transported him about 150 miles after having him arrested on a warrant for being behind in child support for his now 31 year old son. He claims they intend to shove him out the door in Battle Creek in another month instead of putting him back where they found him. Or he can pay them the $500 they want and they'll shove him out the door today. They've had him in jail since Feb 13th, so even if he could come up with the $500 they'd lose money on the deal. He wants me to loan him $500. I don't give in to ransom demands of terrorists and kidnappers, it just encourages them to do it more. Locking up an indigent man for being permanently indigent is just incredibly stupid. Mitch. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
so poor people come from other countries and pay out of pocket to get medical treatment in the USA or perhaps this is rich people? rich people go wherever they please to buy whatever they please. what about the rest of us? do we, the vast majority, simply not matter at all in the equation or is it just about what the rich can or cannot do? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:16 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: One small point to be raised in this summation of how wonderful single payer, government run health care is. Of the countries listed... why is it that people from those countries come to America to get the specialized doctors and procedures they need and pay for them out of their own pocket? Could it be the life saving procedures they come to get are simply not available there because the medical industry has been crippled by the highly fictionalized wonderfulness of government run health care? I think yes. I have two friends in England who have gone untreated with colon cancer for over 2 years now while they wait for approval. I have a friend here who was diagnosed two weeks ago, had surgery 6 days later, and is now in physical therapy recovery. Money talks, you pay what you must to live regardless of where you are. There is no Unicorn, Magic Fairy, or Leprechaun that jumps out when you sprinkle magic government dust which is paid for by taxing more people more money. Please, someone, give me an example of when more government cost and regulation; 1. Worked well , 2. Improved the quality of our lives. 3. Cost less in the final outcome. If the same time, effort, and money were spent to regulate the health care industry as is being spent forcing obamacare on an unwilling public, imagine how much more fruitful that could be. When did health care become an industry anyway, like coal, steel, and mining, now it's an industry. Sounds like the bean counters are running the show instead of the Doctors. I don't wish to denigrate any others opinion by expressing my own. Your personal mileage may vary. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: This experience is why we need a single payer or national health service, like the rest of the civilized world. I can list dozens of examples, but I always get dissed or ignored. Canada, the UK, Germany, France, Russia, this crap doesn't happen. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
how do insco execs get 7 and 8 figure bonuses then? clearly you have not been to palm beach lately or you'd know they can't make it in that sort of system On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: This experience is why we need a single payer or national health service, like the rest of the civilized world. I can list dozens of examples, but I always get dissed or ignored. Canada, the UK, Germany, France, Russia, this crap doesn't happen. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Sure, but consider all the Social Security outlays that will be saved by killing folks off sooner. Scott -Original Message- From: G Mann Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 1:17 AM One small point to be raised in this summation of how wonderful single payer, government run health care is. Of the countries listed... why is it that people from those countries come to America to get the specialized doctors and procedures they need and pay for them out of their own pocket? Could it be the life saving procedures they come to get are simply not available there because the medical industry has been crippled by the highly fictionalized wonderfulness of government run health care? I think yes. I have two friends in England who have gone untreated with colon cancer for over 2 years now while they wait for approval. I have a friend here who was diagnosed two weeks ago, had surgery 6 days later, and is now in physical therapy recovery. Money talks, you pay what you must to live regardless of where you are. There is no Unicorn, Magic Fairy, or Leprechaun that jumps out when you sprinkle magic government dust which is paid for by taxing more people more money. Please, someone, give me an example of when more government cost and regulation; 1. Worked well , 2. Improved the quality of our lives. 3. Cost less in the final outcome. If the same time, effort, and money were spent to regulate the health care industry as is being spent forcing obamacare on an unwilling public, imagine how much more fruitful that could be. When did health care become an industry anyway, like coal, steel, and mining, now it's an industry. Sounds like the bean counters are running the show instead of the Doctors. I don't wish to denigrate any others opinion by expressing my own. Your personal mileage may vary. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: This experience is why we need a single payer or national health service, like the rest of the civilized world. I can list dozens of examples, but I always get dissed or ignored. Canada, the UK, Germany, France, Russia, this crap doesn't happen. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
One small point to be raised in this summation of how wonderful single payer, government run health care is. Of the countries listed... why is it that people from those countries come to America to get the specialized doctors and procedures they need and pay for them out of their own pocket? Could it be the life saving procedures they come to get are simply not available there because the medical industry has been crippled by the highly fictionalized wonderfulness of government run health care? I think yes. I have two friends in England who have gone untreated with colon cancer for over 2 years now while they wait for approval. I have a friend here who was diagnosed two weeks ago, had surgery 6 days later, and is now in physical therapy recovery. Money talks, you pay what you must to live regardless of where you are. There is no Unicorn, Magic Fairy, or Leprechaun that jumps out when you sprinkle magic government dust which is paid for by taxing more people more money. Please, someone, give me an example of when more government cost and regulation; 1. Worked well , 2. Improved the quality of our lives. 3. Cost less in the final outcome. If the same time, effort, and money were spent to regulate the health care industry as is being spent forcing obamacare on an unwilling public, imagine how much more fruitful that could be. When did health care become an industry anyway, like coal, steel, and mining, now it's an industry. Sounds like the bean counters are running the show instead of the Doctors. I don't wish to denigrate any others opinion by expressing my own. Your personal mileage may vary. Hear, Hear! Ask Simon Conway about how wonderful the Socialist British med. system is. This is one example of hundreds of thousands. Why did Canucks by the thousands come to the US for medical treatment if their system was so good? Quoting below from the conservative rag called the LA Times: Simon Conway rails against taxes, Congress and protesters. The recently naturalized citizen features apocryphal tales about the British healthcare system. Conway had an epiphany about healthcare, a pressing tea party issue, when his father was tangled in the British medical system while awaiting minor surgery. He was put on a waiting list and could not have the procedure for almost two years, until he was 77. He suffered a stroke on the operating table. People talk about death panels. They absolutely exist, and frankly, it's what killed my dad, Conway said, repeating a statement he makes frequently on his program when criticizing President Obama's signature healthcare law. These people are not evil; they're adhering to a budget, he said. They didn't know my dad had a stroke till they tried to wake him up. If [the surgery] had happened much earlier, everybody has told me, almost certainly he would have made it. He shouldn't have died. After working in British journalism for 25 years, Conway found that the United States still beckoned. He planned to move here in 2002 to pursue a property management business in Florida. After Sept. 11, he pushed up his move, arriving just two months after the attacks. I got here as fast as I could because it was my way of telling the terrorists, 'You're not messing with me,' he said. It took seven years for Conway to obtain citizenship. During that span, he anchored a radio show about real estate in Orlando, but he rarely talked about real estate and instead discussed politics and current events. Soon, he was asked to fill in as a radio host at various stations around the country. Then came the job at WHO. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/27/nation/la-na-simon-conway-20111228 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Sure, but consider all the Social Security outlays that will be saved by killing folks off sooner. Scott Exactly. The goobermnt's goal is to off whoever shows little prospect of being able to be taxed at levels over some threshold, say $25,000/yr, unless they can be saved to provide several votes for the jackass party.per election ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
You need a new lawyer! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Sent: April 5, 2014 10:22:16 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT) both the states of florida and georgia are charging me 4 figures a month for child support for a child who lives with me and neither state finds it odd that my ex wife ought to be paid well into the 5 figures even though that child doesn't live with her. neither state feels that she should ever pay any support of the child. neither state will hear of changing this. no one i speak with in family law practice or child support collections or the courts finds this in any way strange, including 2 judges my thought is that the entire child support thing is a euphemism for angry women who want revenge for their angry marriages On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:59 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Non-payment of child support is taken far more seriously than non-payment of ordinary debt, and most states that I know of will jail a person for that and then release them after a variable length of time. I knew a retired sailor living in Florida that California was trying to find and jail for non-support of his grown daughter. He had never made support payments and his debt was in the thousands. Gerry On 4/4/2014 10:14 PM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote: I know somebody who is in 'debtors prison' in Battle Creek Michigan as I type this. They transported him about 150 miles after having him arrested on a warrant for being behind in child support for his now 31 year old son. He claims they intend to shove him out the door in Battle Creek in another month instead of putting him back where they found him. Or he can pay them the $500 they want and they'll shove him out the door today. They've had him in jail since Feb 13th, so even if he could come up with the $500 they'd lose money on the deal. He wants me to loan him $500. I don't give in to ransom demands of terrorists and kidnappers, it just encourages them to do it more. Locking up an indigent man for being permanently indigent is just incredibly stupid. Mitch. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Have you actually lived in one of those countries and experienced life under their system? I have. I lived in Canada with my wife and 3 kids for 5 years. I enjoyed their medical system, BUT I knew their limitations. That's why I continued to pay for my US health insurance while I was there. The local medical professionals in BC were fine for sprains, bumps and bruises, and minor ailments. But I saw firsthand how health care was rationed. Those who could afford it would come to the US for anything serious. Even the BC Med people fly patients into the US for some treatments that are not available in Canada! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had This experience is why we need a single payer or national health service, like the rest of the civilized world. I can list dozens of examples, but I always get dissed or ignored. Canada, the UK, Germany, France, Russia, this crap doesn't happen. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
I've never heard of anyone coming from Britain to get medical care. Canada has a few provinces that have crappy programs (the Tory stonghold of B. C. is a notable example, didn't do bypass surgery or much of anything if you were past retirement). And don't forget many of those only partially true stories are decades old. I distinctly remember on about a woman going on and on about nearly losing her life, yada yada yada that was obviously filmed on old 8mm stock in the mid 60's. Hardly relevant. You also get a few die hard Libertarian types who will refuse to use the free care and come to the US because they don't want to pay the taxes for the Canadian system. I LIVED there. No one in their right mind complains. In fact, nearly everyone I met in Ontario thinks Americans are nuts because they don't have a national or at least state comprehensive system. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
no, you buy insurance and are covered for most problems. With all the money thrown at obamacare so far (and in the future) we could have bought insurance for the 30 million without coverage and not have destroyed coverage for the rest. we should remember obamacare is not free health care - it is a insurance policy offered by the government that must be paid for, eventually by all. If some strange laws that prevented health insurance being sold across state lines for instance were dropped - which requires each insurance company to establish and maintain a separate identity and business structure with all the infrastructure involved in each state they wish to do business in, a practice that does nothing but add costs to insurance - the cost of insurance would be significantly lower allowing more people to buy it. Capitalism is always a better answer than socialism. socialism has never been workable in all the places it has been tried. it always fails. I wonder how many of those 'poor who have no health insurance have cable TV and cell phones for each family member? there's no doubt it's more fun to have cable TV than a health insurance card in the wallet. Sincerely, Larry On 4/6/2014 1:52 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: so poor people come from other countries and pay out of pocket to get medical treatment in the USA or perhaps this is rich people? rich people go wherever they please to buy whatever they please. what about the rest of us? do we, the vast majority, simply not matter at all in the equation or is it just about what the rich can or cannot do? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:16 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: One small point to be raised in this summation of how wonderful single payer, government run health care is. Of the countries listed... why is it that people from those countries come to America to get the specialized doctors and procedures they need and pay for them out of their own pocket? Could it be the life saving procedures they come to get are simply not available there because the medical industry has been crippled by the highly fictionalized wonderfulness of government run health care? I think yes. I have two friends in England who have gone untreated with colon cancer for over 2 years now while they wait for approval. I have a friend here who was diagnosed two weeks ago, had surgery 6 days later, and is now in physical therapy recovery. Money talks, you pay what you must to live regardless of where you are. There is no Unicorn, Magic Fairy, or Leprechaun that jumps out when you sprinkle magic government dust which is paid for by taxing more people more money. Please, someone, give me an example of when more government cost and regulation; 1. Worked well , 2. Improved the quality of our lives. 3. Cost less in the final outcome. If the same time, effort, and money were spent to regulate the health care industry as is being spent forcing obamacare on an unwilling public, imagine how much more fruitful that could be. When did health care become an industry anyway, like coal, steel, and mining, now it's an industry. Sounds like the bean counters are running the show instead of the Doctors. I don't wish to denigrate any others opinion by expressing my own. Your personal mileage may vary. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: This experience is why we need a single payer or national health service, like the rest of the civilized world. I can list dozens of examples, but I always get dissed or ignored. Canada, the UK, Germany, France, Russia, this crap doesn't happen. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Quoting below from the conservative rag called the LA Times: Simon Conway rails against taxes, Congress and protesters. The recently naturalized citizen features apocryphal tales about the British healthcare system. Notice here how the LA Times calls his accounts apocryphal, because he is a conservative I suppose. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 5:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had Ask Simon Conway about how wonderful the Socialist British med. system is. This is one example of hundreds of thousands. Why did Canucks by the thousands come to the US for medical treatment if their system was so good? Quoting below from the conservative rag called the LA Times: Simon Conway rails against taxes, Congress and protesters. The recently naturalized citizen features apocryphal tales about the British healthcare system. Conway had an epiphany about healthcare, a pressing tea party issue, when his father was tangled in the British medical system while awaiting minor surgery. He was put on a waiting list and could not have the procedure for almost two years, until he was 77. He suffered a stroke on the operating table. People talk about death panels. They absolutely exist, and frankly, it's what killed my dad, Conway said, repeating a statement he makes frequently on his program when criticizing President Obama's signature healthcare law. These people are not evil; they're adhering to a budget, he said. They didn't know my dad had a stroke till they tried to wake him up.Š If [the surgery] had happened much earlier, everybody has told me, almost certainly he would have made it. He shouldn't have died. After working in British journalism for 25 years, Conway found that the United States still beckoned. He planned to move here in 2002 to pursue a property management business in Florida. After Sept. 11, he pushed up his move, arriving just two months after the attacks. I got here as fast as I could because it was my way of telling the terrorists, 'You're not messing with me,' he said. It took seven years for Conway to obtain citizenship. During that span, he anchored a radio show about real estate in Orlando, but he rarely talked about real estate and instead discussed politics and current events. Soon, he was asked to fill in as a radio host at various stations around the country. Then came the job at WHO. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/27/nation/la-na-simon-conway-20111228 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
NO system that does not have real competition built into it will be either efficient, nor particularly affordable. None. People do forget that all government-run programs are funded at gunpoint. There are relatively few services that _deserve_ to be funded at gunpoint. I can think of a few. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Simon Conway's tales are called apocryphal because they are not verified and are probably fabrications. British National Health care is superb. Again, I have a personal connection because we have long term family friends who are dual citizens and always paid their taxes so they qualified to use it -- they spend summers in Plymouth these days. A very long list of serious aliments (cancer, broken bones, radiation treatments, hyperbaric treatments, colon surgery, etc). The upshot is that when her right femur was no longer capable of bearing weight from damage due to the intense radiation used to treat her soft tissue sarcoma (which is usually fatal in the US by the way), she got a custom made replacement, a replacement hip attached, and a replacement knee. Still up and walking last I heard. Only the very rich get this kind of treatment in the US so far as I know. The Brits are very proud of their health care system, as they should be. Much CHEAPER than the US. Taxes are lower in Canada as well, I LIVED there are filed in both countries. Canada has a real national retirement program too, not just a company provided one if you are lucky enough to get a job with one. Makes life very much easier for everyone. Don't believe what insurance companies and politicians blow about in campaign ads. The incentives to lie are tremendous, and there are always a large number of people who lie to get what they want. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
I can get or I think I already have a mechanical test gauge but not sure how or where to get the proper adapter. I will see if HF has anything. Otherwise I will swap in one from a different car, but no telling if it is accurate or not either. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: You really need to just put a mechanical gauge that you know is good on the oil system. That way you know for sure what's going on. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Well you can see in the video I removed the oil cap with it running, almost no blowby at all, very very minimal. I just can't believe there is a low oil pressure problem, engine seems to healthy. On 4/5/2014 10:47 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Wow that 617.910 sounds great!! I bet blow by is minimal as well. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: So I pulled the pressure relief valve, it seems to move fine, had plenty of tension so it appears to be working as far as I can tell. Put it back in, put pan back on, new filter, fresh diesel oil. Pressure pegs when cold. Ran it for a bit in the driveway got it up to operating temp. See if you can see this video below. The pressure shown at idle is with AC on FIY. I rev it up to what I figure is about 2k-3k RPM and it pegs. Anyway, I am not sure if anything is wrong or not, could just be low due to gauge, but I think what is showing on the gauge in the video is at the bottom end of the spec, if it is in fact the actual pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBH9206SCQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
If you move to Canada where will I purchase my dinnerware classics? On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:05 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Andrew, My compressor locked up on my 80 300SD, but it made a squeal instead of a whine. Just a thought. Oh, by the way, what was it you said to me? Stop whining and move to Canada or some such :-) Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
Or NRA members! On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What comes to my mind is more along the lines of the French Revolution and liberal use of Guillotine in public discharge of ruling class. Adjusted for present ruling class, of course, but by citizens not government. community organizers should be included on that list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
Nope. Reservoir is full. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: A power steering pump low on oil will howl. I bet the hydraulic suspension pump will howl too. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 11:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: It also emits quite a howl when decelerating down to 1800rpm. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: an engine whine that kicks in around 1800 RPM. A stripped transmission stator spline will whine, but at idle. Easy to tell, off-the-line acceleration is abysmal, and stall speed is low. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
If anything that will either confirm that the existing gauge is good or inaccurate. I would have to believe if you get the same readings on two different gauges then you can pretty well believe what you're seeing. You just need another point of reference to figure out if the original gauge is correct or not. Dan On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I can get or I think I already have a mechanical test gauge but not sure how or where to get the proper adapter. I will see if HF has anything. Otherwise I will swap in one from a different car, but no telling if it is accurate or not either. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
If it turns out in fact what I am seeing is accurate, is that pressure too low as seen in the video? On 4/6/2014 9:42 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: If anything that will either confirm that the existing gauge is good or inaccurate. I would have to believe if you get the same readings on two different gauges then you can pretty well believe what you're seeing. You just need another point of reference to figure out if the original gauge is correct or not. Dan On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I can get or I think I already have a mechanical test gauge but not sure how or where to get the proper adapter. I will see if HF has anything. Otherwise I will swap in one from a different car, but no telling if it is accurate or not either. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
And pull the valve cover and verify that you do not have an oil leak in a cam tower. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Never run into that before. On 4/6/2014 9:47 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: And pull the valve cover and verify that you do not have an oil leak in a cam tower. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
At 5:49 PM -0400 4/5/14, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Wow, that is really out of the box thinking. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 5:36 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: Fan clutch? Well, if the clutch is locked up, you might get some fan whine... :) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another 115 question
If that car still has the resistor wires etc then yes the thermo device could be the problem; check its grounding strap. Could also be a bad instrument cluster ground. The light is fed by voltage provided to the plugs THROUGH the thermo time switch. So if the switch is bad or the cluster ground is bad, there's no light. BTW, when you eventually rip out those resistor plugs and switch to pencil plugs, make sure you leave the ground strap at the thermo time switch disconnected or you will short the system. IIRC, unlike the W123, there's no fuse in the 75/76 (W115) version, so that could get ugly in case of a short. D On Apr 6, 2014, Kaleb wrote: Need to dig my manual out, glow plugs work but light does not come on. Bulb is good. I swapped in a brand new preglow time relay under the dash, still does not come on. Does that deal that screw into the head by #1 glow plug control the light. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another 115 question
I have never been a fan of switching to the fast glow plugs, I prefer to keep it original. Yea I am strange I guess. On 4/6/2014 9:51 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: If that car still has the resistor wires etc then yes the thermo device could be the problem; check its grounding strap. Could also be a bad instrument cluster ground. The light is fed by voltage provided to the plugs THROUGH the thermo time switch. So if the switch is bad or the cluster ground is bad, there's no light. BTW, when you eventually rip out those resistor plugs and switch to pencil plugs, make sure you leave the ground strap at the thermo time switch disconnected or you will short the system. IIRC, unlike the W123, there's no fuse in the 75/76 (W115) version, so that could get ugly in case of a short. D On Apr 6, 2014, Kaleb wrote: Need to dig my manual out, glow plugs work but light does not come on. Bulb is good. I swapped in a brand new preglow time relay under the dash, still does not come on. Does that deal that screw into the head by #1 glow plug control the light. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
A broken plastic insert in the oil line to the cam bearings is a well known reason for low idle oil pressure on many MB engines. I've also heard of a cracked cam tower causing low idle oil pressure, and they do break on occasion, they are aluminum. A lot cheaper than an engine overhaul, and also something that could develop while driving. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
I do not think the 617 has the plastic connectors, but will check cam towers if it comes down to it. On 4/6/2014 9:57 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: A broken plastic insert in the oil line to the cam bearings is a well known reason for low idle oil pressure on many MB engines. I've also heard of a cracked cam tower causing low idle oil pressure, and they do break on occasion, they are aluminum. A lot cheaper than an engine overhaul, and also something that could develop while driving. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Don't believe what insurance companies and politicians blow about in campaign ads. The incentives to lie are tremendous, and there are always a large number of people who lie to get what they want. Peter Peter, You really shouldn't make such statements. The current POTUS fits your description perfectly, even though I have a distinct feeling you aren't talking about him. I used to work for NCR and spoke with employees from Europe and Canada. I used to work for Coca-Cola Enterprises and spoke with employees from Europe and Canada. None of them liked the socialized medicine. As for me, all I know is that the ACA caused my insurance to go up $124/mth. I'm retired (not yet on medicare) and I can't afford the extra amount just to make some folks feel good. Sorry, you can have your opinion, but I won't like it any more than you'll like mine. So maybe we should all just agree to disagree. And each of us could work our hardest to either keep the ACA as some wish or repeal it as others wish. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
To be fair (I understand from my relatives who live in Italy) their government does pretty much everything badly! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 4:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had Peter, I'm guessing you've never lived in a country with nationalized health care. My wife's family is Italian. Italy has what I think you think you want. My wife has explained to me how awful the health care in Italy is. If you have the misfortune to be hospitalized, be prepared to be ignored, misdiagnosed, share your room with at least one other patient and no privacy, terrible food (a crime in itself in Italy), and given the wrong medications. In short, every sin we find in all organizations run by the government are found in the healthcare system. Last time my father-in-law was hospitalized, a family member was basically assigned to guard him 24/7, and every treatment or test the staff offered was first considered by the entire family and if possible conferred with distant relatives in the medical field. All his meals were cooked at home or bought at a nearby restaurant. Many people will pay hundreds extra per day for a private nurse to attend their family member. The only advantage the Italian system has is lower costs, including especially drugs, and their pharmacists can prescribe medication. If one can afford it, they go to private hospitals and pay from their pocket. I NEVER want to see such a terrible thing happen to our country. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: April 6, 2014 12:20:45 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had This experience is why we need a single payer or national health service, like the rest of the civilized world. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
That car is gonna be all blowed up soon, I'll give you $300 for it. --R On 4/5/14 8:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I pulled the pressure relief valve, it seems to move fine, had plenty of tension so it appears to be working as far as I can tell. Put it back in, put pan back on, new filter, fresh diesel oil. Pressure pegs when cold. Ran it for a bit in the driveway got it up to operating temp. See if you can see this video below. The pressure shown at idle is with AC on FIY. I rev it up to what I figure is about 2k-3k RPM and it pegs. Anyway, I am not sure if anything is wrong or not, could just be low due to gauge, but I think what is showing on the gauge in the video is at the bottom end of the spec, if it is in fact the actual pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBH9206SCQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Roger: Health insurance companies make huge sums of money off providing you health care, and so do hospitals. Their profits do nothing to improve your health or get you services, they just make everything cost twice or three times as much. These profits motivate all sorts of disinformation and distortion in order to keep the cash cow producing. Such as blaming Obama for not allowing people to keep existing policies. That decision was made by the State Insurance Commission in every state, not the Federal Government, who have no say in that at all, and could easily have been reversed. No money in doing so, of course, so guess what the result was. Insurance companies make money first, and provision of benefits is secondary. If you want a system where benefits are the primary goal, it will have to be not for profit and run by people with that goal, not political appointees getting payoffs for working on campaigns or raising money. Yes, I heard all the complaints in Canada, but the reply from someone who had been in the US and gotten sick is don't get sick in the US. There were problems (for instance, no hip replacements if you were retired, they put you in the nursing home instead -- also paid for by OHIP) that needed fixing, but on the whole once someone experienced the rotten care and horrible costs in the US, they were more than happy with OHIP. People who lived on the border, as I did, are very aware that what they had was vastly superior, and said so. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion, but you risk looking like a fool when that opinion isn't based on actual facts. Remember i LIVED in Canada, I didn't just visit. Much better care, and very much less expensive. You have no idea what it's like to not have to worry about health insurance coverage or getting treatment if your insurance doesn't cover something, etc. And my taxes were significantly lower, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
OK so I had a cluster from an older 115 that had the old temp gauge, but just hooked up the oil pressure gauge. With this one I get about the same results but it may read about a needle width higher, so it sits about in the middle between 15 and 0. This engine defies everything I have ever observed with these old diesels. Every single other one I have had, when you change the oil, as soon as you start it up, the oil is black right away. On this engine, I have run it probably 30 minutes or more total since changing the oil and it looks like it just came out of the bottle on the dipstick. I have never in my 25 years of messing this these have I seen that. Very odd. HF has a kit for testing oil pressure with all sorts of adaptors, I may get that and see if one of them fits this car and test it with that. It is highly possible the test cluster I put in also reads low. I suppose I could try using the pressure gauge out of a 123 and see what it reads, but other than that, I am just about inclined to call it within spec and just drive it until it blows up. I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. On 4/6/2014 10:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I do not think the 617 has the plastic connectors, but will check cam towers if it comes down to it. On 4/6/2014 9:57 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: A broken plastic insert in the oil line to the cam bearings is a well known reason for low idle oil pressure on many MB engines. I've also heard of a cracked cam tower causing low idle oil pressure, and they do break on occasion, they are aluminum. A lot cheaper than an engine overhaul, and also something that could develop while driving. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
The quality of any system is directly related to the abilities and motivations of the people in charge. Put sleazeballs in charge of anything and you will get corruption and disfunction, it's a basic management principle. Put good people in charge of a health care providing system with the main goal of providing the best possible service at the lowest cost and you get Medicare. Don't hear anyone whining about that, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
The oil is clean because you have a GAS ENGINE, not diesel. In time you will learn the difference. Hahahaha I so hilarious. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: OK so I had a cluster from an older 115 that had the old temp gauge, but just hooked up the oil pressure gauge. With this one I get about the same results but it may read about a needle width higher, so it sits about in the middle between 15 and 0. This engine defies everything I have ever observed with these old diesels. Every single other one I have had, when you change the oil, as soon as you start it up, the oil is black right away. On this engine, I have run it probably 30 minutes or more total since changing the oil and it looks like it just came out of the bottle on the dipstick. I have never in my 25 years of messing this these have I seen that. Very odd. HF has a kit for testing oil pressure with all sorts of adaptors, I may get that and see if one of them fits this car and test it with that. It is highly possible the test cluster I put in also reads low. I suppose I could try using the pressure gauge out of a 123 and see what it reads, but other than that, I am just about inclined to call it within spec and just drive it until it blows up. I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. On 4/6/2014 10:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I do not think the 617 has the plastic connectors, but will check cam towers if it comes down to it. On 4/6/2014 9:57 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: A broken plastic insert in the oil line to the cam bearings is a well known reason for low idle oil pressure on many MB engines. I've also heard of a cracked cam tower causing low idle oil pressure, and they do break on occasion, they are aluminum. A lot cheaper than an engine overhaul, and also something that could develop while driving. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
To be fair (I understand from my relatives who live in Italy) their government does pretty much everything badly! Greg Since WWII, from my italian friends, and other accounts, The italian gooberment does not do anything well, including collecting taxes. Our gooberment also does few things well. The one thing they do best perhaps, is collecting taxes. (They are also very good at breaking things and blowing up things, although it is ridiculously expensive to have them do so.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Kleb sez: This engine defies everything I have ever observed with these old diesels. Every single other one I have had, when you change the oil, as soon as you start it up, the oil is black right away. On this engine, I have run it probably 30 minutes or more total since changing the oil and it looks like it just came out of the bottle on the dipstick. I have never in my 25 years of messing this these have I seen that. Very odd. That is new information. That sounds like the oil is NOT circulating properly. I'd still check the OP with a good gauge, but now I suspect the oil pump. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Kaleb, et alia. After thinking about your problem oil pressure scenario, I have a few observations to share. (The delete key is you know where.) The video of the oil pressure vs the engine speed was thought provoking as usually on 617 engines there is an over capacity of pumped oil, enough to peg the meter by approx. 1000 rpm hot. The conclusions that I came to were:- I. There is some restriction in the oil pickup circuit to starve the pump of sufficient oil thus the low oil pressure, or an air leak reducing the pumps ability to suck up enough oil at lower rpm. You had stated that the oil pressure relief spring was OK, did you make sure that the valve behind the spring actually closed off the bypass port? Oil filter O rings? Worn pump or shrunken O rings? 2. There is some massive leak in the oil delivery circuit beyond which the oil pump is unable to supply enough oil until the engine turns 3000 rpm plus. Internal leaks as described by other Listers. Badly worn bearings, broken or cracked cam towers, gasket failure allowing oil to go elsewhere than designed. The cam tower oil delivery pipe is loose or fell off. I'm assuming that this is a non turbo, so no oil squirts that may have failed? YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
Kaleb, et alia. After thinking about your problem oil pressure scenario, I have a few observations to share. (The delete key is you know where.) The video of the oil pressure vs the engine speed was thought provoking as usually on 617 engines there is an over capacity of pumped oil, enough to peg the meter by approx. 1000 rpm hot. The conclusions that I came to were:- I. There is some restriction in the oil pickup circuit to starve the pump of sufficient oil thus the low oil pressure, or an air leak reducing the pumps ability to suck up enough oil at lower rpm. You had stated that the oil pressure relief spring was OK, did you make sure that the valve behind the spring actually closed off the bypass port? Oil filter O rings? Worn pump or shrunken O rings? 2. There is some massive leak in the oil delivery circuit beyond which the oil pump is unable to supply enough oil until the engine turns 3000 rpm plus. Internal leaks as described by other Listers. Badly worn bearings, broken or cracked cam towers, gasket failure allowing oil to go elsewhere than designed. The cam tower oil delivery pipe is loose or fell off. I'm assuming that this is a non turbo, so no oil squirts that may have failed? YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
The fan is usually a roar - - - On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:44 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: At 5:49 PM -0400 4/5/14, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Wow, that is really out of the box thinking. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 5:36 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: Fan clutch? Well, if the clutch is locked up, you might get some fan whine... :) -MMM- -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Sounds like the hospitals my father was in the last few years of his life, here in the US. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Peter, I'm guessing you've never lived in a country with nationalized health care. My wife's family is Italian. Italy has what I think you think you want. My wife has explained to me how awful the health care in Italy is. If you have the misfortune to be hospitalized, be prepared to be ignored, misdiagnosed, share your room with at least one other patient and no privacy, terrible food (a crime in itself in Italy), and given the wrong medications. In short, every sin we find in all organizations run by the government are found in the healthcare system. Last time my father-in-law was hospitalized, a family member was basically assigned to guard him 24/7, and every treatment or test the staff offered was first considered by the entire family and if possible conferred with distant relatives in the medical field. All his meals were cooked at home or bought at a nearby restaurant. Many people will pay hundreds extra per day for a private nurse to attend their family member. The only advantage the Italian system has is lower costs, including especially drugs, and their pharmacists can prescribe medication. If one can afford it, they go to private hospitals and pay from their pocket. I NEVER want to see such a terrible thing happen to our country. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
I have a spare gauge set if that will help. The low warm pressure you show is troubling with all the upgrades you did. That and the slow rate of pressure climb when you increase RPM is not normal. Sell me the car for $500 clay On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I pulled the pressure relief valve, it seems to move fine, had plenty of tension so it appears to be working as far as I can tell. Put it back in, put pan back on, new filter, fresh diesel oil. Pressure pegs when cold. Ran it for a bit in the driveway got it up to operating temp. See if you can see this video below. The pressure shown at idle is with AC on FIY. I rev it up to what I figure is about 2k-3k RPM and it pegs. Anyway, I am not sure if anything is wrong or not, could just be low due to gauge, but I think what is showing on the gauge in the video is at the bottom end of the spec, if it is in fact the actual pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBH9206SCQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Our current health care system has real competition, and is neither efficient nor affordable. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: NO system that does not have real competition built into it will be either efficient, nor particularly affordable. None. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Just remember that the ACA is the healthcare plan offered by the Republicans when Hillary was trying to reform the system way back when. Obama thought that by giving the Republicans their own plan, they would accept it. Wrong. And it's as flawed now as it was when it was first proposed. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: As for me, all I know is that the ACA caused my insurance to go up $124/mth. I'm retired (not yet on medicare) and I can't afford the extra amount just to make some folks feel good. Sorry, you can have your opinion, but I won't like it any more than you'll like mine. So maybe we should all just agree to disagree. And each of us could work our hardest to either keep the ACA as some wish or repeal it as others wish. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Check to see that the oil line to the gauge is clear - if it's clogged, you won't get good readings, though I suspect that the increase with engine speed rules this out. The clean oil is very suspicious, is the pressure relief valve seat clean? Because it moves doesn't mean that it's sealing. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 2:39 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I have a spare gauge set if that will help. The low warm pressure you show is troubling with all the upgrades you did. That and the slow rate of pressure climb when you increase RPM is not normal. Sell me the car for $500 clay On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I pulled the pressure relief valve, it seems to move fine, had plenty of tension so it appears to be working as far as I can tell. Put it back in, put pan back on, new filter, fresh diesel oil. Pressure pegs when cold. Ran it for a bit in the driveway got it up to operating temp. See if you can see this video below. The pressure shown at idle is with AC on FIY. I rev it up to what I figure is about 2k-3k RPM and it pegs. Anyway, I am not sure if anything is wrong or not, could just be low due to gauge, but I think what is showing on the gauge in the video is at the bottom end of the spec, if it is in fact the actual pressure. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: More Political Statement for the Day plus Battery Tender Jr.
The cig. lighter socket in most MBs is off when the key is off, so no current gets to the battery from the solar charger. You need to wire in a direct to the battery connection for the charger. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:12 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought one of those at HF years ago. It did diddly. Not sure if it was defective or just ineffective. Sent from my iPhone -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Battery Tender Jr.
DAS IS NICHT IN ORDNUNG! How do you smoke your zigarettas when you are sitting waiting in the car? VE MUST GET ENGINEERING ON THIS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW! --R On 4/6/14 3:56 PM, OK Don wrote: The cig. lighter socket in most MBs is off when the key is off, so no current gets to the battery from the solar charger. You need to wire in a direct to the battery connection for the charger. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:12 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought one of those at HF years ago. It did diddly. Not sure if it was defective or just ineffective. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
He would have to come up I5, so he would get to my place first. :) Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:39 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I have a spare gauge set if that will help. The low warm pressure you show is troubling with all the upgrades you did. That and the slow rate of pressure climb when you increase RPM is not normal. Sell me the car for $500 clay On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I pulled the pressure relief valve, it seems to move fine, had plenty of tension so it appears to be working as far as I can tell. Put it back in, put pan back on, new filter, fresh diesel oil. Pressure pegs when cold. Ran it for a bit in the driveway got it up to operating temp. See if you can see this video below. The pressure shown at idle is with AC on FIY. I rev it up to what I figure is about 2k-3k RPM and it pegs. Anyway, I am not sure if anything is wrong or not, could just be low due to gauge, but I think what is showing on the gauge in the video is at the bottom end of the spec, if it is in fact the actual pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBH9206SCQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Gump sheared her front cam tower. Went from full to no pressure. Minor failure would allow for worsening pressure as the damage increased clay On Apr 6, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Never run into that before. On 4/6/2014 9:47 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: And pull the valve cover and verify that you do not have an oil leak in a cam tower. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Peter, have you not heard of Medicare fraud? Have you not heard of doctors/hospitals turning away Medicare patients, because they lose too much on the reimbursement rates? Let me perhaps be the first to tell you that I despise being forced to pay into a system that likely will be bankrupt and unavailable before I can claim one penny of benefit. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: April 6, 2014 1:16:59 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had The quality of any system is directly related to the abilities and motivations of the people in charge. Put sleazeballs in charge of anything and you will get corruption and disfunction, it's a basic management principle. Put good people in charge of a health care providing system with the main goal of providing the best possible service at the lowest cost and you get Medicare. Don't hear anyone whining about that, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Test
'ello 'ello 'ello! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Nope. 70 to 25 to 80 then 84 to 90 clay On Apr 6, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: He would have to come up I5, so he would get to my place first. :) Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:39 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I have a spare gauge set if that will help. The low warm pressure you show is troubling with all the upgrades you did. That and the slow rate of pressure climb when you increase RPM is not normal. Sell me the car for $500 clay On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I pulled the pressure relief valve, it seems to move fine, had plenty of tension so it appears to be working as far as I can tell. Put it back in, put pan back on, new filter, fresh diesel oil. Pressure pegs when cold. Ran it for a bit in the driveway got it up to operating temp. See if you can see this video below. The pressure shown at idle is with AC on FIY. I rev it up to what I figure is about 2k-3k RPM and it pegs. Anyway, I am not sure if anything is wrong or not, could just be low due to gauge, but I think what is showing on the gauge in the video is at the bottom end of the spec, if it is in fact the actual pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBH9206SCQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
The valve, seat etc seemed very clean to me, it moves in and out freely. I guess I will try the HF gauge, pull the valve cover and see what we get Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Check to see that the oil line to the gauge is clear - if it's clogged, you won't get good readings, though I suspect that the increase with engine speed rules this out. The clean oil is very suspicious, is the pressure relief valve seat clean? Because it moves doesn't mean that it's sealing. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 2:39 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I have a spare gauge set if that will help. The low warm pressure you show is troubling with all the upgrades you did. That and the slow rate of pressure climb when you increase RPM is not normal. Sell me the car for $500 clay On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I pulled the pressure relief valve, it seems to move fine, had plenty of tension so it appears to be working as far as I can tell. Put it back in, put pan back on, new filter, fresh diesel oil. Pressure pegs when cold. Ran it for a bit in the driveway got it up to operating temp. See if you can see this video below. The pressure shown at idle is with AC on FIY. I rev it up to what I figure is about 2k-3k RPM and it pegs. Anyway, I am not sure if anything is wrong or not, could just be low due to gauge, but I think what is showing on the gauge in the video is at the bottom end of the spec, if it is in fact the actual pressure. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Maybe you just got all the black crud out when you pulled the pan but I too have always experienced the almost-instant black oil (movie reference for x-file fans). This clean oil suggests the oil isn't circulating and that would worry me. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 1:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update Kleb sez: This engine defies everything I have ever observed with these old diesels. Every single other one I have had, when you change the oil, as soon as you start it up, the oil is black right away. On this engine, I have run it probably 30 minutes or more total since changing the oil and it looks like it just came out of the bottle on the dipstick. I have never in my 25 years of messing this these have I seen that. Very odd. That is new information. That sounds like the oil is NOT circulating properly. I'd still check the OP with a good gauge, but now I suspect the oil pump. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
Maybe a bearing in an idler pulley? I had an alternator (Ford) that whined once. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of M. Mitchell Marmel Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 10:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Maybe you just got all the black crud out when you pulled the pan but I too have always experienced the almost-instant black oil (movie reference for x-file fans). This clean oil suggests the oil isn't circulating and that would worry me. Yep After the oil pressure gauge to verify the cluster gauge, and checking with the valve cover off, then I think the next thing is to change the oil pump assembly. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
If ever the SHTF for real, I think you'll find most NRA members much better prepared to survive and prevail, particularly compared to folks in major cities who depend on an elaborate infrastructure. Consider, for example, how long could NYC (or DC, or Chicago, or LA, etc.) survive if isolated from the rest of the country. What would the aftermath of Sandy have been like if the social order had collapsed? -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 10:23 AM Or NRA members! On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What comes to my mind is more along the lines of the French Revolution and liberal use of Guillotine ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
Yeah, lots of good survival food with lead as a main ingredient.. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: If ever the SHTF for real, I think you'll find most NRA members much better prepared to survive and prevail, particularly compared to folks in major cities who depend on an elaborate infrastructure. Consider, for example, how long could NYC (or DC, or Chicago, or LA, etc.) survive if isolated from the rest of the country. What would the aftermath of Sandy have been like if the social order had collapsed? -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 10:23 AM Or NRA members! On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What comes to my mind is more along the lines of the French Revolution and liberal use of Guillotine ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
I've heard of small time clinics and questionable doctors turning away medicare, but they are in the very small minority. Almost all reputable healthcare providers are fine with medicare. I am surprised at the level of premium disparity between medicare and obamacare. I've paid something under 2% of my gross to medicare for a while now, and that's not a lot of money, IMO. I'm hearing horror stories of what folks who are not 'subsidized' are paying into obamacare. Based on percentages between subsidized and not, it appears to me that the overall level of abstract poverty in this country is way beyond anybody's wildest concepts. Either that or someone is getting rich off the ACA.. maybe the affordable part means more insurance executives and medical administration folks are now going to be able to afford the bigger Mercedes... On Sunday, April 6, 2014 4:25 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Peter, have you not heard of Medicare fraud? Have you not heard of doctors/hospitals turning away Medicare patients, because they lose too much on the reimbursement rates? Let me perhaps be the first to tell you that I despise being forced to pay into a system that likely will be bankrupt and unavailable before I can claim one penny of benefit. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: April 6, 2014 1:16:59 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had The quality of any system is directly related to the abilities and motivations of the people in charge. Put sleazeballs in charge of anything and you will get corruption and disfunction, it's a basic management principle. Put good people in charge of a health care providing system with the main goal of providing the best possible service at the lowest cost and you get Medicare. Don't hear anyone whining about that, eh? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
So you think it's all the Republican's fault. Same document, different administration?? Let me give you some clear advice. Republican/Democrat/Libertarian/Whatever.. they're all the same. Corrupt when they pass thru that magic barrier that surrounds the district. It seems to swallow them in, they all laugh and joke about the common folks, and they really don't care who they screw. Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 3:47 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Just remember that the ACA is the healthcare plan offered by the Republicans when Hillary was trying to reform the system way back when. Obama thought that by giving the Republicans their own plan, they would accept it. Wrong. And it's as flawed now as it was when it was first proposed. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: As for me, all I know is that the ACA caused my insurance to go up $124/mth. I'm retired (not yet on medicare) and I can't afford the extra amount just to make some folks feel good. Sorry, you can have your opinion, but I won't like it any more than you'll like mine. So maybe we should all just agree to disagree. And each of us could work our hardest to either keep the ACA as some wish or repeal it as others wish. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Phantom emails
Does anyone else have vanishing emails? On replies to a post I get the return acknowledgement immediately but no message. Sometimes some of the normal mail will end up in the trash bin and need to be retrieved. Other times I will see half of an exchange. Maybe I'm PNG? This only seems to happen to Okiebenz mail. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Quote without comment
If it was up to the NIH to cure polio through a centrally directed program. You'd have the best iron lung in the world but not a polio vaccine. - Samuel Broder, Former Director, National Cancer Institute. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
It would seem changing the oil pump would be the next thing to try. I should have one around here. Never heard of one going bad though. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you just got all the black crud out when you pulled the pan but I too have always experienced the almost-instant black oil (movie reference for x-file fans). This clean oil suggests the oil isn't circulating and that would worry me. Yep After the oil pressure gauge to verify the cluster gauge, and checking with the valve cover off, then I think the next thing is to change the oil pump assembly. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another 115 question
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 09:55:59 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have never been a fan of switching to the fast glow plugs, I prefer to keep it original. Yea I am strange I guess. If you lived where it was colder, you'd like the fast glow plugs. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another 115 question
Yea, I do not have that issue. In the winter, if it is too cold to start I would probably be driving something else anyway. On 4/6/2014 5:48 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 09:55:59 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have never been a fan of switching to the fast glow plugs, I prefer to keep it original. Yea I am strange I guess. If you lived where it was colder, you'd like the fast glow plugs. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
On 4/6/2014 5:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yeah, lots of good survival food with lead as a main ingredient.. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: If ever the SHTF for real, I think you'll find most NRA members much better prepared to survive and prevail, particularly compared to folks in major cities who depend on an elaborate infrastructure. Consider, for example, how long could NYC (or DC, or Chicago, or LA, etc.) survive if isolated from the rest of the country. What would the aftermath of Sandy have been like if the social order had collapsed? Andrew: FYI, Googling lead free ammo for sale produces 752,00 hits. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Legend is the live part of history. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 76 300D Low Oil Pressure update
Check the obvious. If you have verified that the oil pressure is indeed low via a secondary mechanical gauge and is Ok. Then the signs are that the main bearings are worn beyond limits. Drop the pan, pick the main bearing furthest from the oil pump and measure the clearances with some Plastigauge or similar. Marshall -- ...Bring back Family Sunday dinner together ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Phantom emails
On Sun, 6 Apr 2014 15:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone else have vanishing emails? On replies to a post I get the return acknowledgement immediately but no message. Sometimes some of the normal mail will end up in the trash bin and need to be retrieved. Other times I will see half of an exchange. Maybe I'm PNG? This only seems to happen to Okiebenz mail. I have seen others' responses to some of Kaleb's questions, but have never seen the original emails. That happened a couple of times last week. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Spiders in your diesel fuel?
The Mazda spiders are back. The company notified federal officials it is recalling 42,000 Mazda6 sedans because of a fire risk tied to yellow sac spiders. The yellow sac spider is attracted to the hydrocarbons in gasoline and can find its way into a fuel tank hose, said Mazda spokesman Jeremy Barnes. There, it may weave a web that blocks airflow. That could cause the fuel tank to crack and, possibly, a fire. Mazda said it is not aware of any fires due to this issue. Mazda designed a special spring to prevent the spiders from getting in. But sometimes the spiders find a way, so it also designed a software fix to alleviate pressure on the fuel tank and prevent the cracking. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Don, I'm including a link below to a Wiki discussion of the Clinton Health Security Act of 1993. You can read it and decide who put forth the plan. Again, just my opinion, but it was a terrible plan and overstep of the Federal Gov't then just as the ACA is now. And Peter, if the facts prove I'm a fool, I'll accept and admit that. I just hope you are big enough to do the same. Probably neither of us will have to admit anything as there are currently so many facts being presented by everyone that anyone can take any position and prove it with a fact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993 Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Well, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion...but you are NOT entitled to your own facts! First: you say that Conway's accounts are probably fabrications and not verified. It seems to me that you are exhibiting the same prejudice as is the LA Times. I did a search and could find no evidence that Conway's story of the 77 yr. old (or any of his other tales as you so judgmentally put it) being a fabrication. Do you have such evidence??? Inquiring minds want to know! OTOH, does the LA Times (or you) call anecdotes related by POTUS apocryphal or probably fabricated? I didn't think so. Despite his serial untruths: If you like your doctor...insurance...PERIOD! Based on his track record, it would be much more reasonable to characterize much of what he says as probably fabricated. As to taxes in Canada vs. the US: If you paid lower taxes to Canada than to the US, it may be that you received credit from Canada for your US taxes (I know I did when I lived there for 5 years). In any case, better authorities than you say that Canadian taxes are higher, including the Canadian Government: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/studies-etudes/75-001/archive/e-pdf/5071-eng.pdf And CBS Moneywatch: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/canadas-favorite-tax-haven-the-usa/ Let me close by saying: I'm perfectly willing to change my opinion based on logical argument and facts. If you have some, please feel free to present them. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 7:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had Simon Conway's tales are called apocryphal because they are not verified and are probably fabrications. British National Health care is superb. Again, I have a personal connection because we have long term family friends who are dual citizens and always paid their taxes so they qualified to use it -- they spend summers in Plymouth these days. A very long list of serious aliments (cancer, broken bones, radiation treatments, hyperbaric treatments, colon surgery, etc). The upshot is that when her right femur was no longer capable of bearing weight from damage due to the intense radiation used to treat her soft tissue sarcoma (which is usually fatal in the US by the way), she got a custom made replacement, a replacement hip attached, and a replacement knee. Still up and walking last I heard. Only the very rich get this kind of treatment in the US so far as I know. The Brits are very proud of their health care system, as they should be. Much CHEAPER than the US. Taxes are lower in Canada as well, I LIVED there are filed in both countries. Canada has a real national retirement program too, not just a company provided one if you are lucky enough to get a job with one. Makes life very much easier for everyone. Don't believe what insurance companies and politicians blow about in campaign ads. The incentives to lie are tremendous, and there are always a large number of people who lie to get what they want. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spiders in your diesel fuel?
Was that press release issued last Tuesday by any chance? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 7:05 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The Mazda spiders are back. The company notified federal officials it is recalling 42,000 Mazda6 sedans because of a fire risk tied to yellow sac spiders. The yellow sac spider is attracted to the hydrocarbons in gasoline and can find its way into a fuel tank hose, said Mazda spokesman Jeremy Barnes. There, it may weave a web that blocks airflow. That could cause the fuel tank to crack and, possibly, a fire. Mazda said it is not aware of any fires due to this issue. Mazda designed a special spring to prevent the spiders from getting in. But sometimes the spiders find a way, so it also designed a software fix to alleviate pressure on the fuel tank and prevent the cracking. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get shafted. For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not be so bad. But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying seriously for your lack of purchase. If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you want doctor coverage. Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance goes, and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are in private industry insurance, on average. If you never buy drugs, then the drug insurance is a waste of money. You get to re-do every year, so the worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the pharmacy. Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not require me to buy all the Chia Pets on TV. But there is *no* difference between this and ACA, in my opinion. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
I cannot imaging guessing at this issue without pulling a bearing cap and actually getting real data. It's only two bolts once you get the pan off. Easy peasy. Don't guess, get data. PS, you'll know as soon as you pull it. the babbet will be worn visibly. You don't have to mike it. If it's only worn a bit then a mike might help. If you see *no* wear, then change the pump. But I think you're wasting time.. only pump I ever changed was on an M110 after it sheared off the bevel gears above it. Or you can sell me the car for $600. I'll up the deal by $100, but you have to deliver it to me at that price (c: On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: It would seem changing the oil pump would be the next thing to try. I should have one around here. Never heard of one going bad though. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you just got all the black crud out when you pulled the pan but I too have always experienced the almost-instant black oil (movie reference for x-file fans). This clean oil suggests the oil isn't circulating and that would worry me. Yep After the oil pressure gauge to verify the cluster gauge, and checking with the valve cover off, then I think the next thing is to change the oil pump assembly. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spiders in your diesel fuel?
ROFL!! Oh, ye of little faith! Gerry On 4/6/2014 7:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Was that press release issued last Tuesday by any chance? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 7:05 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The Mazda spiders are back. The company notified federal officials it is recalling 42,000 Mazda6 sedans because of a fire risk tied to yellow sac spiders. The yellow sac spider is attracted to the hydrocarbons in gasoline and can find its way into a fuel tank hose, said Mazda spokesman Jeremy Barnes. There, it may weave a web that blocks airflow. That could cause the fuel tank to crack and, possibly, a fire. Mazda said it is not aware of any fires due to this issue. Mazda designed a special spring to prevent the spiders from getting in. But sometimes the spiders find a way, so it also designed a software fix to alleviate pressure on the fuel tank and prevent the cracking. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W123 wins Jalopnik beater car beat-off
http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-w123-wins-the-jalopnik-march-madness-beat-1557538645 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How mean is it?
Walmart is doing a few interesting things just came across this: http://www.wired.com/2014/03/walmart-big-rig/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spiders in your diesel fuel?
Took me a minute... -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: April 6, 2014 7:58:57 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spiders in your diesel fuel? ROFL!! Oh, ye of little faith! Gerry On 4/6/2014 7:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Was that press release issued last Tuesday by any chance? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 7:05 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The Mazda spiders are back. The company notified federal officials it is recalling 42,000 Mazda6 sedans because of a fire risk tied to yellow sac spiders. The yellow sac spider is attracted to the hydrocarbons in gasoline and can find its way into a fuel tank hose, said Mazda spokesman Jeremy Barnes. There, it may weave a web that blocks airflow. That could cause the fuel tank to crack and, possibly, a fire. Mazda said it is not aware of any fires due to this issue. Mazda designed a special spring to prevent the spiders from getting in. But sometimes the spiders find a way, so it also designed a software fix to alleviate pressure on the fuel tank and prevent the cracking. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
It would seem changing the oil pump would be the next thing to try. I should have one around here. Never heard of one going bad though. Sent from my iPhone It is rare, but it has been known to happen. None of mine have, but I've heard of it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Car with disappearing doors
Well why not? I wonder about side crash safety? http://www.flixxy.com/high-tech-car-door.htm ...Bring back Family Sunday dinner together ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Given that the issue suddenly occurred on a trip, and not gradually over time, I lean towards the broken something under the valve cover instead of worn bearings or oil pump. If the drive to oil pump broke, it wouldn't build pressure at all. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: It is rare, but it has been known to happen. None of mine have, but I've heard of it. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test
RST is 599. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: 'ello 'ello 'ello! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Phantom emails
I saw Craig's response first, then found Fred's email in the spam folder. No idea why Gmail thinks Fred is a spammer though --- On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 6 Apr 2014 15:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone else have vanishing emails? On replies to a post I get the return acknowledgement immediately but no message. Sometimes some of the normal mail will end up in the trash bin and need to be retrieved. Other times I will see half of an exchange. Maybe I'm PNG? This only seems to happen to Okiebenz mail. I have seen others' responses to some of Kaleb's questions, but have never seen the original emails. That happened a couple of times last week. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How mean is it?
Yeah, they are into renewable energy and energy efficiency in a big way. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Walmart is doing a few interesting things just came across this: http://www.wired.com/2014/03/walmart-big-rig/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test
OK Don. Thank you for the confirmation that I am not alone in the wilderness. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test RST is 599. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: 'ello 'ello 'ello! Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Yes, I would think if bearings etc were worn out, the engine would show signs of being worn out such as lots of blow by etc. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 8:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Given that the issue suddenly occurred on a trip, and not gradually over time, I lean towards the broken something under the valve cover instead of worn bearings or oil pump. If the drive to oil pump broke, it wouldn't build pressure at all. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: It is rare, but it has been known to happen. None of mine have, but I've heard of it. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] National Friendship Week
Ahh one of those 'aawwh chucks' type feel good motivational chain mails. But alas http://www.snopes.com/glurge/fleming.asp it would appear no knight in shining carriage here. Hendrik who likes a good yarn On 04/04/14 07:21, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish farmer. One day, while trying to make a living for his family, he heard a cry for help coming from a nearby bog. He dropped his tools and ran to the bog. There, mired to his waist in black muck, was a terrified boy, screaming and struggling to free himself. Farmer Fleming saved the lad from what could have been a slow and terrifying death The next day, a fancy carriage pulled up to the Scotsman's sparse surroundings. An elegantly dressed nobleman stepped out and introduced himself as the father of the boy Farmer Fleming had saved. 'I want to repay you,' said the nobleman. 'You saved my son's life.' 'No, I can't accept payment for what I did,' the Scottish farmer replied waving off the offer. At that moment, the farmer's own son came to the door of the family hovel. 'Is that your son?' the nobleman asked. 'Yes,' the farmer replied proudly. 'I'll make you a deal. Let me provide him with the level of education my own son will enjoy If the lad is anything like his father, he'll no doubt grow to be a man we both will be proud of.' And that he did. Farmer Fleming's son attended the very best schools and in time, graduated from St. Mary's Hospital Medical School in London, and went on to become known throughout the world as the noted Sir Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of Penicillin. Years afterward, the same nobleman's son who was saved from the bog was stricken with pneumonia. What saved his life this time? Penicillin. The name of the nobleman? Lord Randolph Churchill .. His son's name? Sir Winston Churchill. Someone once said: What goes around comes around. Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like nobody's listening. Live like it's Heaven on Earth. It's National Friendship Week Send this to everyone you consider A FRIEND. Pass this on, and brighten some ones day. AN IRISH FRIENDSHIP WISH: May there always be work for your hands to do; May your purse always hold a coin or two; May the sun always shine on your windowpane; May a rainbow be certain to follow each rain; May the hand of a friend always be near you; May God fill your heart with gladness to cheer you.
Re: [MBZ] NOT Walmart but Mercedes whine
Yeah but they still sound like crap (is crap on the approved words list?) Apparently the organisers of the Oz F1 where not happy as the former sound adds to the sexyness of the event. Ahh well I suppose they'll have to get more grid girls out and about to make up for this lack of sexyness. Hendrik who did not attend On 05/04/14 06:16, Rich Thomas wrote: http://jalopnik.com/mercedes-f1s-secret-is-it-split-its-turbo-in-half-1558154190/+gmanaugh --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've come to two possible courses of action. 1. Die a lingering death waiting for approval of treatment under obamacare/aca, or being refused said care because of my advancing age and no longer being a contributing member to the advancement of society [death panel action]. or 2. Die in the coming revolution while trying to effect substantive change in the current runaway government. Pick one.. does that about sum-ate the options? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get shafted. For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not be so bad. But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying seriously for your lack of purchase. If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you want doctor coverage. Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance goes, and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are in private industry insurance, on average. If you never buy drugs, then the drug insurance is a waste of money. You get to re-do every year, so the worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the pharmacy. Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not require me to buy all the Chia Pets on TV. But there is *no* difference between this and ACA, in my opinion. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test
I see Don's reply, but not the original... Fred FAILED! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: April 6, 2014 9:55:56 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test RST is 599. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: 'ello 'ello 'ello! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
Have we done the usual cheap tests? Run engine in neutral, no noise = not driveline related unless it's front transmission. Belts off, no noise = aux equipment related Had a weird noise in the ole TE a while back, turned out (banned word) auto sparky didn't renew the alternator pulley spring washer which was doing a good job of impersonating a flat washer and must have talked the nut into coming loose, which encouraged the belt to make the pulley do a funky noise at about 1300 to 1500 revs, that bastard belt also made the noise travel all over the engine so it sounded like the (bad word) noise was coming from the other side. Hendrik who bought a S/H alternator and threw the rebuild through the auto sparkies window On 06/04/14 13:01, Richard Hattaway wrote: A power steering pump low on oil will howl. I bet the hydraulic suspension pump will howl too. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 11:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: It also emits quite a howl when decelerating down to 1800rpm. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: an engine whine that kicks in around 1800 RPM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
