Re: [MBZ] Building question
Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
Now that part makes sense! Sometimes the building inspectors won't even let you use screws. Nails have more resistence to shear if I understand right. Unless you buy the right screws. Simpson Strong Tie folks have special screws intended for use with some of their fasteners for example. A couple of years back, my brother in law was building a deck on the back of his house. I was giving him some advice and suggested he use screws with the joist hangers. The building inspector made him remove the screws and drive the short nails. I used the screws (and not the Simpson ones as I don't think they existed then) when I built my deck/screened porch, in 1984 and it has not fallen down yet. I like using screws. They tend to pull things in nice and tight. They are also more removable if one changes one's mind and needs to remove the recently installed stud. Maybe tie it together with screws and once satisfied that one is not going to change things any more, then go back with the air nailer and drive the recommended number of nails too. Who was claiming to be a belt and suspenders type of fellow recently - ?? On 28/04/2014 6:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber so that the chemical does not eat the screw. On 29/04/2014 8:21 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
Funny you mention that. The builders place I go to for my stuff told me that the special screws were no better than the regular galvanized/coated deck screws with the new formulation of the treating treatment stuff. They don't even carry the special screws. Stainless steel if you must then, and be prepared to pay big dinero for them. --R On 4/29/14 11:52 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber so that the chemical does not eat the screw. On 29/04/2014 8:21 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
I guess it depends on who you talk to. I have been using the ceramic coated screws with treated lumber. Not sure the stainless ones are any better. Actual hot dipped galvanized would be nice but harder to come by. The gold anodized ones rust pretty quickly so I don't think I would use them where they are exposed to the weather. On 29/04/2014 11:24 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Funny you mention that. The builders place I go to for my stuff told me that the special screws were no better than the regular galvanized/coated deck screws with the new formulation of the treating treatment stuff. They don't even carry the special screws. Stainless steel if you must then, and be prepared to pay big dinero for them. --R On 4/29/14 11:52 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber so that the chemical does not eat the screw. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
Wouldn't plain steel nails corrode even more than coated screws? On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I guess it depends on who you talk to. I have been using the ceramic coated screws with treated lumber. Not sure the stainless ones are any better. Actual hot dipped galvanized would be nice but harder to come by. The gold anodized ones rust pretty quickly so I don't think I would use them where they are exposed to the weather. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
The shear load rating for a #8 nail is 300 lbs. Old dry timbers are very prone to cracking and spliting. I would not use screws for that reason but instead, use nails with a good pattern to avoid splitting the grain of the old stud. Also I would use the best glue and clamps to achieve as perfect bond as possible. Just FWIW. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Funny you mention that. The builders place I go to for my stuff told me that the special screws were no better than the regular galvanized/coated deck screws with the new formulation of the treating treatment stuff. They don't even carry the special screws. Stainless steel if you must then, and be prepared to pay big dinero for them. --R On 4/29/14 11:52 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber so that the chemical does not eat the screw. On 29/04/2014 8:21 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
I believe in a belt and suspenders, and screws over nails, too! Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Now that part makes sense! Sometimes the building inspectors won't even let you use screws. Nails have more resistence to shear if I understand right. Unless you buy the right screws. Simpson Strong Tie folks have special screws intended for use with some of their fasteners for example. A couple of years back, my brother in law was building a deck on the back of his house. I was giving him some advice and suggested he use screws with the joist hangers. The building inspector made him remove the screws and drive the short nails. I used the screws (and not the Simpson ones as I don't think they existed then) when I built my deck/screened porch, in 1984 and it has not fallen down yet. I like using screws. They tend to pull things in nice and tight. They are also more removable if one changes one's mind and needs to remove the recently installed stud. Maybe tie it together with screws and once satisfied that one is not going to change things any more, then go back with the air nailer and drive the recommended number of nails too. Who was claiming to be a belt and suspenders type of fellow recently - ?? On 28/04/2014 6:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
I keep a box of 3 square drive deck screws on the shelf as a one size fits all thing. I love them for just about any rough lumber project. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber so that the chemical does not eat the screw. On 29/04/2014 8:21 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
If it's old, dry, or brittle I drill a pilot hole. Nothing worse than running a screw down only to hear the wood cracking as you do so. With the quick swap drill attachments it's easy and quick to do. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2014, at 12:50 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The shear load rating for a #8 nail is 300 lbs. Old dry timbers are very prone to cracking and spliting. I would not use screws for that reason but instead, use nails with a good pattern to avoid splitting the grain of the old stud. Also I would use the best glue and clamps to achieve as perfect bond as possible. Just FWIW. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Funny you mention that. The builders place I go to for my stuff told me that the special screws were no better than the regular galvanized/coated deck screws with the new formulation of the treating treatment stuff. They don't even carry the special screws. Stainless steel if you must then, and be prepared to pay big dinero for them. --R On 4/29/14 11:52 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber so that the chemical does not eat the screw. On 29/04/2014 8:21 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
I agree in regard to the pre-drilled holes. Another choice might be to through-bolt. When one is doing it for one's self one can often do much more than a trades person would do. They sort of have to do things quickly to earn a reasonable income without bankrupting the property owner. We as the property owners can usually afford the time to over-do things if we want to. Might not be absolutely necessary, but I do take some pride in doing things in a manner that I deem acceptable even if they do tend to be sometimes like 2 belts and suspenders too. Randy On 29/04/2014 12:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: If it's old, dry, or brittle I drill a pilot hole. Nothing worse than running a screw down only to hear the wood cracking as you do so. With the quick swap drill attachments it's easy and quick to do. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2014, at 12:50 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The shear load rating for a #8 nail is 300 lbs. Old dry timbers are very prone to cracking and spliting. I would not use screws for that reason but instead, use nails with a good pattern to avoid splitting the grain of the old stud. Also I would use the best glue and clamps to achieve as perfect bond as possible. Just FWIW. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Funny you mention that. The builders place I go to for my stuff told me that the special screws were no better than the regular galvanized/coated deck screws with the new formulation of the treating treatment stuff. They don't even carry the special screws. Stainless steel if you must then, and be prepared to pay big dinero for them. --R On 4/29/14 11:52 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber so that the chemical does not eat the screw. On 29/04/2014 8:21 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What is a dry wall stud? Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4? On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote: BTW, don't make the mistake of using dry wall studs. You probably know all of this but they are much too brittle. Good Luck - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
I've been using Scorpion brand square drive deck screws, way better than trying to drive phillips head... -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:21:47 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Building question Message-ID: 535fa76b.50...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Deck screws if you must --R On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote: My apologies -- I meant to say Dry Wall Screws - Duh.. Sorry Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Building question
Funny you should mention that. I'm building a shed to put snowmobiles in. It'll be 4x4 posts with a shelf at 48 and a roof over top. This year it'll get wrapped in a green tarp, next year it might get T111 siding if finances allow. Keeping the machines out under tarps all summer is hard on them. I'm planning on 8x12 which will allow for 2 big modern machines under the shelf and 2 or 3 (hoping on 3) on the shelf. My plan for the shelf is 2x6s on the outside (so build a rectangle 8x12) with 2x4 on 16 centers down the middle. I'm planning to through bolt the 2x6 outers to the 4x4 posts, I don't want there to be any sway in the posts. I'll run 4 deck screws through the 2x6 ends into the 4x4s while avoiding the bolts. Probably ought to deal with a certain '78 240D first though. -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:24:00 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Building question Message-ID: 535ffc50.8060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I agree in regard to the pre-drilled holes. Another choice might be to through-bolt. When one is doing it for one's self one can often do much more than a trades person would do. They sort of have to do things quickly to earn a reasonable income without bankrupting the property owner. We as the property owners can usually afford the time to over-do things if we want to. Might not be absolutely necessary, but I do take some pride in doing things in a manner that I deem acceptable even if they do tend to be sometimes like 2 belts and suspenders too. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spam from Curt, was: Building question
Yeah, this is that thing what was talked about the other day. My email isn't actually coming from Yahoo to you, it goes through the listserve, gmail is balking at the listserve rebadging. Have you added me as a contact? That might help. -Curt Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:16:57 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spam from Curt, was: Building question Message-ID: canzcij_sepgk4wta0evmt1dhdzbbeaxf2magfptpv40guiq...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Some of Curt's posts still show up in spam, though some are now making it to the inbox, but with this warning: *Be careful with this message.* Our systems couldn't verify that this message was really sent by yahoo.com. You might want to avoid clicking links or replying with personal information. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spam from Curt, was: Building question
Yeah, this is that thing what was talked about the other day. My email isn't actually coming from Yahoo to you, it goes through the listserve, gmail is balking at the listserve rebadging. Have you added me as a contact? That might help. -Curt Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:16:57 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spam from Curt, was: Building question Message-ID: canzcij_sepgk4wta0evmt1dhdzbbeaxf2magfptpv40guiq...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Some of Curt's posts still show up in spam, though some are now making it to the inbox, but with this warning: *Be careful with this message.* Our systems couldn't verify that this message was really sent by yahoo.com. You might want to avoid clicking links or replying with personal information. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 123 fog light update
Hey folks, Recently I was out in my garage and found one of my spare amber 123 fog lights. As I'd expected its not a sealed beam. I took some pictures for evidence. http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/4224A046-DBC5-464E-8224-3E6956DBD916-13022-06D99FDD195C_zpsd1ea6d5c.jpg http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/A60CC566-D3AD-425C-B103-154F0BCFF275-13022-06D9A89ABB33_zps3161ad5a.jpg On the face of the lens there is a fair amount of writing, around the rim: 1 305 602071 and down the center: BOSCH GERMANY B E1 8384 R19 SAEF76 LE1657AP Any of the sealed beam folks want to compare the numbers on the front of their light to mine? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test
Andrew wrote: Oui oui! Yeah... I hear the french people using that toilet talk also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test
You actually got my joke... On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Andrew wrote: Oui oui! Yeah... I hear the french people using that toilet talk also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Maybe I should buy this
http://pueblo.craigslist.org/cto/4446867950.html -- Sent from cPRO for iPhone, iPod and iPad Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://pueblo.craigslist.org/cto/4446867950.html Enough room in there to bring Kristen's kids on your summer vacation. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:45:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://pueblo.craigslist.org/cto/4446867950.html Interesting location, up in the mountains northwest of Pueblo. 450,000 km = 279,617 miles What OM does it use? How much do they have left after 280 kmi? What will you put in the empty insides? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this
I wonder if the front airbags that need to be replaced are for the kneeling function? If so, will they be hard to source and can it be driven without them? YES, Kaleb NEEDS it On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:45:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://pueblo.craigslist.org/cto/4446867950.html Interesting location, up in the mountains northwest of Pueblo. 450,000 km = 279,617 miles What OM does it use? How much do they have left after 280 kmi? What will you put in the empty insides? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
