Re: [MBZ] KlebCar Alert!!
Huh! That's B2's car's twin. Avec more miles, of course. -MMM- On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely crusher-worthy. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2075354-fs-79-300sd-southwest-houston-tx.html#post9405370 Only 576k! (miles) Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] (no subject)
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Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
I agree --R On 7/11/14 10:44 AM, WILTON wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Not much exciting here, I'm updating courseware. I did put a can of r134a in the Jetta on Wednesday which got the AC working. Its not super cold (I can't find my AC thermometer) so I think it needs another can. It still worked yesterday so if theres a leak its not a huge one. Curt From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] (no subject) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44
Gary and all I called these folks yesterday ansaautomotive.com Corporate Office and Warehouse Toll Free: 800-277-2787 Phone #:919-580-2000 Fax #: Address:300 Dixie Trail Goldsboro, NC 27530 Email: i...@ansaautomotive.com THEY claim that they manufacture the stuff right there in NORTH CAROLINA i was skeptical but that's what they claim So, gary, what is your delivered price (to georgia) for the pipe from eberspracher (which i assume is still german)? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:00 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Date: July 10, 2014 5:44:06 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ANSA? Ansa is italian. It is good. I would get eberspacher for 130 before I got ansa for 100, but you are happy either way. How much do I purport to want for it? On Jul 10, 2014 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks i need another flexible downpipe exhaust header for my 1982 300td I replaced it a few years ago with a used one and it seems to have failed again Where is ANSA brand exhaust stuff made? i can get an ANSA for about $100 delivered and maybe $130 for Eberspracher or however it is spelled thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
You guys need a hobby Dan On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I agree --R On 7/11/14 10:44 AM, WILTON wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44
Send Wilton over to check them out, he lives right there --R On 7/11/14 11:54 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Gary and all I called these folks yesterday ansaautomotive.com Corporate Office and Warehouse Toll Free:800-277-2787 Phone #:919-580-2000 Fax #: Address:300 Dixie Trail Goldsboro, NC 27530 Email:i...@ansaautomotive.com THEY claim that they manufacture the stuff right there in NORTH CAROLINA i was skeptical but that's what they claim So, gary, what is your delivered price (to georgia) for the pipe from eberspracher (which i assume is still german)? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:00 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Date: July 10, 2014 5:44:06 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ANSA? Ansa is italian. It is good. I would get eberspacher for 130 before I got ansa for 100, but you are happy either way. How much do I purport to want for it? On Jul 10, 2014 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks i need another flexible downpipe exhaust header for my 1982 300td I replaced it a few years ago with a used one and it seems to have failed again Where is ANSA brand exhaust stuff made? i can get an ANSA for about $100 delivered and maybe $130 for Eberspracher or however it is spelled thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Actually I have too many. I will need your expertise in one of them, will post later --R On 7/11/14 12:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You guys need a hobby Dan On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I agree --R On 7/11/14 10:44 AM, WILTON wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44
Hmm, I'm strangely not seeing Rick's emails at all, not even in the spam folder... -Curt From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 Send Wilton over to check them out, he lives right there --R On 7/11/14 11:54 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Gary and all I called these folks yesterday ansaautomotive.com Corporate Office and Warehouse Toll Free: 800-277-2787 Phone #: 919-580-2000 Fax #: Address: 300 Dixie Trail Goldsboro, NC 27530 Email: i...@ansaautomotive.com THEY claim that they manufacture the stuff right there in NORTH CAROLINA i was skeptical but that's what they claim So, gary, what is your delivered price (to georgia) for the pipe from eberspracher (which i assume is still german)? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:00 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Date: July 10, 2014 5:44:06 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ANSA? Ansa is italian. It is good. I would get eberspacher for 130 before I got ansa for 100, but you are happy either way. How much do I purport to want for it? On Jul 10, 2014 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks i need another flexible downpipe exhaust header for my 1982 300td I replaced it a few years ago with a used one and it seems to have failed again Where is ANSA brand exhaust stuff made? i can get an ANSA for about $100 delivered and maybe $130 for Eberspracher or however it is spelled thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
I need to retire so I can pursue my hobbies. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Dan Penoff Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:59 AM To: Mercedes List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) You guys need a hobby ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Yep. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) You guys need a hobby Dan On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I agree --R On 7/11/14 10:44 AM, WILTON wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
You mean this whole business of posting sh*t on the list doesn't constitute a hobby? On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:04 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) You guys need a hobby Dan On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@ constructivity.net wrote: I agree --R On 7/11/14 10:44 AM, WILTON wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Hot under the collar
Froggy is having inconsistent cooling issues. I was taking her for an italian tune up this past weekend. I meant to climb the foothills of the Cascades about 32 miles out of town (seattle) doing 70mph. I made it only 22 miles before I had to pull off because the temp was climbing up to the red zone. Got to a service station and drizzled a gallon of water over the block and rad to get temp down. I decided to head back home and give it a better look. No visible leakage. The system was holding pressure fine. I checked the oil for water, but only found it to be black and nasty. This within 500 miles of a change. I am suspecting the shop did not really change the oil. So, I gave it all new oil. Thermostat was changed, along with new hoses and water pump last summer. The AC does not function, so that should have no impact on temps. I have replaced the hood pad, and there are no cats living in the engine bay to add to the heat soaking. Transmission filter and fluids were change two years ago, about 2k miles. Anybody have insight? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:41:30 -0500 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I need to retire so I can pursue my hobbies. One day several years ago, as I was about to get into the car and head off to the Lab, my retired neighbor came over and said, I don't know how you guys with a job get anything done! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar
Check the function of the visco clutch and make sure the auxilliary fan comes on at about 100C. With both of those out of action on a steep grade, you will overheat. Also check to make sure the bottom radiator hose has not gone soft. They can collapse under high speed pump operation, starving the block of coolant. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar
De-scale, de-oil the cooling system? If the cooling system is up to snuff (which it appears to be, can you hold the computer closer to the radiator?) then the problem has to be something adding heat where it doesn't belong, timing maybe? Does turning on the heat help? -Curt From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; SL Discussion List s...@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] Hot under the collar Froggy is having inconsistent cooling issues. I was taking her for an italian tune up this past weekend. I meant to climb the foothills of the Cascades about 32 miles out of town (seattle) doing 70mph. I made it only 22 miles before I had to pull off because the temp was climbing up to the red zone. Got to a service station and drizzled a gallon of water over the block and rad to get temp down. I decided to head back home and give it a better look. No visible leakage. The system was holding pressure fine. I checked the oil for water, but only found it to be black and nasty. This within 500 miles of a change. I am suspecting the shop did not really change the oil. So, I gave it all new oil. Thermostat was changed, along with new hoses and water pump last summer. The AC does not function, so that should have no impact on temps. I have replaced the hood pad, and there are no cats living in the engine bay to add to the heat soaking. Transmission filter and fluids were change two years ago, about 2k miles. Anybody have insight? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
On 11/07/2014 2:44 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:41:30 -0500 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I need to retire so I can pursue my hobbies. One day several years ago, as I was about to get into the car and head off to the Lab, my retired neighbor came over and said, I don't know how you guys with a job get anything done! Craig ___ Catch 22 however. Without the job, I cannot afford the hobbies. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar
On 11/07/2014 2:38 PM, clay wrote: Froggy is having inconsistent cooling issues. I was taking her for an italian tune up this past weekend. I meant to climb the foothills of the Cascades about 32 miles out of town (seattle) doing 70mph. I made it only 22 miles before I had to pull off because the temp was climbing up to the red zone. Got to a service station and drizzled a gallon of water over the block and rad to get temp down. I decided to head back home and give it a better look. No visible leakage. The system was holding pressure fine. I checked the oil for water, but only found it to be black and nasty. This within 500 miles of a change. I am suspecting the shop did not really change the oil. So, I gave it all new oil. Thermostat was changed, along with new hoses and water pump last summer. The AC does not function, so that should have no impact on temps. I have replaced the hood pad, and there are no cats living in the engine bay to add to the heat soaking. Transmission filter and fluids were change two years ago, about 2k miles. Anybody have insight? clay This is the car that has had all sorts of issues is it not? Timing and fuel mixture can be an issue with overheating if I am not mistaken. Too soon, too late, or bad advance mechanism, too rich, or too lean. All of the above, some of the above etc. It all needs to work together. Was the oil thin? Did it smell of fuel? Was there too much of it? Apart from that, if the engine seemed to be running fine, then is the rad plugged? Does the fan work? Is there anything missing on the vehicle that should be there, like a fan shroud or an air dam under the bumper etc? Is the coolant mixture ok? Too much or too little coolant with the water can make for problems. Some cars (not necessarily MBs) were built with marginal cooling to begin with. Big motor, tight engine compartment, smog controls etc so old age does not help them cope when they were not all that good when they were new. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
My dilemma exactly -- if I retire at 62, which is a very great temptation, believe me -- I cannot manage on what piddly SS I will get along with my tiny 401k. I'll have to wait til at least 67 to get full SS, and I'd rather wait til 70 if I can hang in there. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
The secret to affordable retirement is to minimize your fixed costs. That means low insurance, low taxes, and no house payment. This adds up to moving to a red state as far as I can tell. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) My dilemma exactly -- if I retire at 62, which is a very great temptation, believe me -- I cannot manage on what piddly SS I will get along with my tiny 401k. I'll have to wait til at least 67 to get full SS, and I'd rather wait til 70 if I can hang in there. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On 11/07/2014 3:54 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: The secret to affordable retirement is to minimize your fixed costs. That means low insurance, low taxes, and no house payment. This adds up to moving to a red state as far as I can tell. Scott What is a red state? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Politically opposite Canadian provinces? On Jul 11, 2014 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/07/2014 3:54 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: The secret to affordable retirement is to minimize your fixed costs. That means low insurance, low taxes, and no house payment. This adds up to moving to a red state as far as I can tell. Scott What is a red state? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On 11/07/2014 4:36 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Politically opposite Canadian provinces? On Jul 11, 2014 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/07/2014 3:54 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: The secret to affordable retirement is to minimize your fixed costs. That means low insurance, low taxes, and no house payment. This adds up to moving to a red state as far as I can tell. Scott What is a red state? Ok, that did not help much. Are we talking Republican as red and Democrat as Blue? or am I backwards on that? I would think that the more socialist the government, then the better it is for the poor. If one is a poor senior then one might be better off if the government provides more services even if the tax rates are higher etc. How about someplace like Arkansas? Not too far north so the winters are not too bad. Not too far south so the summers should not be too bad. Lots of poor folks so you won't have to keep up with the neighbors. Your 50 year old rusty MB will fit right in. Or you could turn the tables on them and sneak into Mexico. Supposed to be cheap to live there. Randy who will likely freeze in the GWN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Did that - still not enough time! I am making better headway though . . . On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I need to retire so I can pursue my hobbies. Rick -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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What is a red state? Ok, that did not help much. Are we talking Republican as red and Democrat as Blue? Yes. or am I backwards on that? No I would think that the more socialist the government, then the better it is for the poor. Possibly. If one is a poor senior then one might be better off if the government provides more services even if the tax rates are higher etc. Unfortunately a senior with a pension and SSI will probably be just above the poverty line, and thus, not poor by government definition. How about someplace like Arkansas? Not too far north so the winters are not too bad. Not too far south so the summers should not be too bad. Lots of poor folks so you won't have to keep up with the neighbors. Your 50 year old rusty MB will fit right in. Our very own Luther G. Hails from there, as does M cubed. Perhaps one of them will chime in. It appears that AR is a red state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states Or you could turn the tables on them and sneak into Mexico. Supposed to be cheap to live there. The Mexican government frowns on sneaking into their country. http://www.mexperience.com/store/vuitem.php?itemid=26 Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44
His are with yours in my spam folder . . . On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm, I'm strangely not seeing Rick's emails at all, not even in the spam folder... -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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This started a few years ago on election night when tv network (CNN?) Started using map graphics to show vote- red for reps blue for dems then term came to be used to describe states. On Jul 11, 2014 6:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: What is a red state? Ok, that did not help much. Are we talking Republican as red and Democrat as Blue? Yes. or am I backwards on that? No I would think that the more socialist the government, then the better it is for the poor. Possibly. If one is a poor senior then one might be better off if the government provides more services even if the tax rates are higher etc. Unfortunately a senior with a pension and SSI will probably be just above the poverty line, and thus, not poor by government definition. How about someplace like Arkansas? Not too far north so the winters are not too bad. Not too far south so the summers should not be too bad. Lots of poor folks so you won't have to keep up with the neighbors. Your 50 year old rusty MB will fit right in. Our very own Luther G. Hails from there, as does M cubed. Perhaps one of them will chime in. It appears that AR is a red state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states Or you could turn the tables on them and sneak into Mexico. Supposed to be cheap to live there. The Mexican government frowns on sneaking into their country. http://www.mexperience.com/store/vuitem.php?itemid=26 Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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No teeth in Arkansas... Mexico is a good place to get killed, theres a reason 50,000 young folks have fled Central America to the US. I think a blue state with high income taxes like MA would be a good choice for a retiree since your income is low so would your tax burden. Move someplace semi-rural like I do but I'm still close to a good hospital, have access to some services etc. NH would be a lousy choice financially, no income tax but they make up for it in property tax. Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) On 11/07/2014 4:36 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Politically opposite Canadian provinces? On Jul 11, 2014 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/07/2014 3:54 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: The secret to affordable retirement is to minimize your fixed costs. That means low insurance, low taxes, and no house payment. This adds up to moving to a red state as far as I can tell. Scott What is a red state? Ok, that did not help much. Are we talking Republican as red and Democrat as Blue? or am I backwards on that? I would think that the more socialist the government, then the better it is for the poor. If one is a poor senior then one might be better off if the government provides more services even if the tax rates are higher etc. How about someplace like Arkansas? Not too far north so the winters are not too bad. Not too far south so the summers should not be too bad. Lots of poor folks so you won't have to keep up with the neighbors. Your 50 year old rusty MB will fit right in. Or you could turn the tables on them and sneak into Mexico. Supposed to be cheap to live there. Randy who will likely freeze in the GWN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Mercedes-Benz builds a glamper van
K'leb NEEDS one of these --- Designed by Westfalia-Werke http://www.westfalia-mobil.net/en/, renowned for its classic “pop-top” Volkswagen van-conversion packages, the Marco Polo relentlessly eliminates “roughing it” from the camping lexicon. Based on the sleek new V-Class design, which was unveiled earlier this year and effectively replaces the Viano and Vito vans, the stylish Marco Polo sleeps four people, courtesy of a two-seat rear bench that morphs into a single or double bed in seconds, and an upper berth that nests beneath an electric-powered pop-up roof. The Marco Polo might transform even a trip along the arduous Silk Road into a pleasure excursion, thanks to amenities such as a kitchenette with two gas burners, a sink, a 10½-gallon refrigerator, a 10-gallon fresh-water tank, a 10½-gallon waste tank, a large wardrobe and a fold-away tabletop. There’s even a swing-out, illuminated mirror. Refined aesthetics come along for the ride, too, with porcelain-colored furniture, roof and walls that create an aura of spaciousness; a replicated yacht-decking floor; ambient LED lighting; and piano-black lacquered trim. And to sate the need for speed, chose from several turbocharged four-cylinder diesel engines that top out at 190 horsepower. Can an AMG version be far behind? Set to debut this month at the Caravan Salon http://www.caravan-salon.com/ in Düsseldorf, Germany, the Marco Polo is nimble, too, with a turning radius of just under 39 feet, comparable to many luxury cars. Whether on the road or at home for a driveway staycation, camping just got a whole lot cushier. *Pictures are at*: http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20140710-from-mercedes-the-glamper-van ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44
Yahoo mail, Hotmail, AOL mail, and Gmail all seem to have problems together with email forwarded from an email list such as this one. Surprisingly it hasn't been fixed yet, as both Google and Yahoo host email groups. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: OK Don Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 His are with yours in my spam folder . . . On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm, I'm strangely not seeing Rick's emails at all, not even in the spam folder... -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44
Now I'm starting to see your replies... -Curt From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 Yahoo mail, Hotmail, AOL mail, and Gmail all seem to have problems together with email forwarded from an email list such as this one. Surprisingly it hasn't been fixed yet, as both Google and Yahoo host email groups. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: OK Don Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 His are with yours in my spam folder . . . On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm, I'm strangely not seeing Rick's emails at all, not even in the spam folder... -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44
And I see your replies. That's better than a bounce. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 Now I'm starting to see your replies... -Curt From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 Yahoo mail, Hotmail, AOL mail, and Gmail all seem to have problems together with email forwarded from an email list such as this one. Surprisingly it hasn't been fixed yet, as both Google and Yahoo host email groups. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: OK Don Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 His are with yours in my spam folder . . . On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm, I'm strangely not seeing Rick's emails at all, not even in the spam folder... -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44
I think Yahoo learns, if I tell it that you're not spam a couple times it seems to stop putting your stuff into the spam folder. Replies seem to act a little different from newly originated emails anyway. -Curt From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 And I see your replies. That's better than a bounce. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 Now I'm starting to see your replies... -Curt From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 Yahoo mail, Hotmail, AOL mail, and Gmail all seem to have problems together with email forwarded from an email list such as this one. Surprisingly it hasn't been fixed yet, as both Google and Yahoo host email groups. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: OK Don Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 104, Issue 44 His are with yours in my spam folder . . . On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm, I'm strangely not seeing Rick's emails at all, not even in the spam folder... -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar
I forget, have you given it a citric acid flush? -- Jim On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Froggy is having inconsistent cooling issues. I was taking her for an italian tune up this past weekend. I meant to climb the foothills of the Cascades about 32 miles out of town (seattle) doing 70mph. I made it only 22 miles before I had to pull off because the temp was climbing up to the red zone. Got to a service station and drizzled a gallon of water over the block and rad to get temp down. I decided to head back home and give it a better look. No visible leakage. The system was holding pressure fine. I checked the oil for water, but only found it to be black and nasty. This within 500 miles of a change. I am suspecting the shop did not really change the oil. So, I gave it all new oil. Thermostat was changed, along with new hoses and water pump last summer. The AC does not function, so that should have no impact on temps. I have replaced the hood pad, and there are no cats living in the engine bay to add to the heat soaking. Transmission filter and fluids were change two years ago, about 2k miles. Anybody have insight? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar
Has the thermostat been tested to confirm it's working properly? It seems that thermostats can fail early. Also if the radiator is old, it could be partially blocked. What are the hose temps coming out of the radiator? I have the opposite problem insofar that the TE won't get past 80 much, should sit at about 82. May well have to pull the thermostat to see if it is operating as it should. Anyway we made it to Queensland and I am sitting here in shorts and T shirt. We saw that Russian sattelite break up while we where in Cobar http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/11/australian-meteorite-most-likely-part-of-russian-satellite was pretty specky. Hendrik who was advised by the NSW highway patrol as to what the speed limit is On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com wrote: I forget, have you given it a citric acid flush? -- Jim On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Froggy is having inconsistent cooling issues. I was taking her for an italian tune up this past weekend. I meant to climb the foothills of the Cascades about 32 miles out of town (seattle) doing 70mph. I made it only 22 miles before I had to pull off because the temp was climbing up to the red zone. Got to a service station and drizzled a gallon of water over the block and rad to get temp down. I decided to head back home and give it a better look. No visible leakage. The system was holding pressure fine. I checked the oil for water, but only found it to be black and nasty. This within 500 miles of a change. I am suspecting the shop did not really change the oil. So, I gave it all new oil. Thermostat was changed, along with new hoses and water pump last summer. The AC does not function, so that should have no impact on temps. I have replaced the hood pad, and there are no cats living in the engine bay to add to the heat soaking. Transmission filter and fluids were change two years ago, about 2k miles. Anybody have insight? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer -- **Was** Hot under the collar
I have a question about temps and my 91 300D. Some may recall I just replaced the radiator after the top hose nozzle broke as well as replacing the water pump and T'stat gasket. While all leaks have stopped the temp will go to just above the 80C mark by maybe 1/8 or so, I'm thinking it's running just under 100C. Anyway, when driving, the temp will slowly climb until it nears the unlabeled hash mark 1/2 way between the 80C mark upper mark near the red zone (120C?) but it rises no further than the unmarked hash mark because the twin fans in front of the radiator kick in at that point and keeps it from getting any warmer. I've heard the comments that the fan clutch may not be working -- I hate to replace the fan clutch on a _/*maybe*/_ - is there a way to know I am fixing the problem? I've never been a fan of throwing parts at a problem until it's fixed - that's not being a mechanic, only a parts replacer ;-) Surely everyone agrees with that approach? Anyway, I found procedure # 20-310 which tells how to test the clutch by running *the engine at 4000-5000rpm until the temp reaches 90-95C. when it reaches that temp the speed of the fan coupling will be very clearly heard to increase*. It appears the sound of the fan moving more air will be very audible. sound about right? Since a diesel has a redline around 4300RPM. I would not want to run it above ~3800rpm for long - agreed? LarryT On 7/11/2014 4:25 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 11/07/2014 2:38 PM, clay wrote: Froggy is having inconsistent cooling issues. I was taking her for an italian tune up this past weekend. I meant to climb the foothills of the Cascades about 32 miles out of town (seattle) doing 70mph. I made it only 22 miles before I had to pull off because the temp was climbing up to the red zone. Got to a service station and drizzled a gallon of water over the block and rad to get temp down. I decided to head back home and give it a better look. No visible leakage. The system was holding pressure fine. I checked the oil for water, but only found it to be black and nasty. This within 500 miles of a change. I am suspecting the shop did not really change the oil. So, I gave it all new oil. Thermostat was changed, along with new hoses and water pump last summer. The AC does not function, so that should have no impact on temps. I have replaced the hood pad, and there are no cats living in the engine bay to add to the heat soaking. Transmission filter and fluids were change two years ago, about 2k miles. Anybody have insight? clay This is the car that has had all sorts of issues is it not? Timing and fuel mixture can be an issue with overheating if I am not mistaken. Too soon, too late, or bad advance mechanism, too rich, or too lean. All of the above, some of the above etc. It all needs to work together. Was the oil thin? Did it smell of fuel? Was there too much of it? Apart from that, if the engine seemed to be running fine, then is the rad plugged? Does the fan work? Is there anything missing on the vehicle that should be there, like a fan shroud or an air dam under the bumper etc? Is the coolant mixture ok? Too much or too little coolant with the water can make for problems. Some cars (not necessarily MBs) were built with marginal cooling to begin with. Big motor, tight engine compartment, smog controls etc so old age does not help them cope when they were not all that good when they were new. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer -- **Was** Hot under the collar
Larry, I think the red line for your car is over 5000 rpm, and it is not really a red line, it is the governed limit. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] SD radio comes on loud with new battery
Not a big deal, but I wonder why the radio in my 83 300SD always comes on full volume when I reconnect the battery and turn the ignition switch to start the car. Even though the radio had been off when the battery was disconnected. It is the original radio/tape player. I have to be quick with the off button to avoid a huge blast of static. Once turned off it will turn on and function in the normal way. And if the battery hasn't been disconnected it always works normally. When I got the car I disconnected the previous owner's car phone - a big old Audiovox model. Could that be relevant? Thanks. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV One of the most commonly described features of dreaming is the sense of hurried movement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
No bargains in red states for nice houses, you still gotta buy carefully. The secret, so far as I can tell, is to have a job with a real retirement (fat chance these days) and to buy a house in a neighborhood that will still be decent when you retire and PAY YOUR HOUSE OFF rather than keep using for a line of credit. Vast numbers of people lost their houses in the downturn because they had not paid them off, just kept borrowing against them to renovate and raise the value, leaving them with more debt than they started with and now no job. You might not have a McMansion with 6000 sq ft of space you will never use, but if it's paid for and has no mortgage, you only have to pay the property taxes and utilities to live there! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer -- **Was** Hot under the collar
The fan must be stiff when cold and spin at engine speed when started, then immediately slow down. It must also pull with significant air flow at idle with the engine hot enough to engage it (about 85 C I think). Also, when hot, it must stop immediately when shutting off, and this is the easiest test. When the temp is high enough to kick on the aux fans, the engine driven fan must stop with less than a full rotation when the engine is stopped. If it turns more than that, there is no longer any oil in the clutch and it must be replaced. Your symptoms are exactly that of a bad fan clutch. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] [SL] Hot under the collar
Just curious, you had the pump replaced.. there was a big flap years ago about some pumps not doing the job. They were just designed wrong, and I believe they were aftermarket pumps. The true blue honest to goodness MB pumps were typically priced under them as I recall, but for some reason shops did not go to the source for the pump and that was not a good thing. This comes from a very rusty memory, and from someone who has been Mercedesless since 2005. Good luck. Richard Mercedesless in Salisbury .. On Friday, July 11, 2014 3:38 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Froggy is having inconsistent cooling issues. I was taking her for an italian tune up this past weekend. I meant to climb the foothills of the Cascades about 32 miles out of town (seattle) doing 70mph. I made it only 22 miles before I had to pull off because the temp was climbing up to the red zone. Got to a service station and drizzled a gallon of water over the block and rad to get temp down. I decided to head back home and give it a better look. No visible leakage. The system was holding pressure fine. I checked the oil for water, but only found it to be black and nasty. This within 500 miles of a change. I am suspecting the shop did not really change the oil. So, I gave it all new oil. Thermostat was changed, along with new hoses and water pump last summer. The AC does not function, so that should have no impact on temps. I have replaced the hood pad, and there are no cats living in the engine bay to add to the heat soaking. Transmission filter and fluids were change two years ago, about 2k miles. Anybody have insight? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/sl_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Original Message From: Peter Frederick Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) No bargains in red states for nice houses, you still gotta buy carefully. The secret, so far as I can tell, is to have a job with a real retirement (fat chance these days) and to buy a house in a neighborhood that will still be decent when you retire and PAY YOUR HOUSE OFF rather than keep using for a line of credit. Very sage advice. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
