Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill

2014-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 07/08/2014 10:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

It was our winter
plow vehicle, and was reasonably safe to drive with a snow plow mounted
that you could drop and use as an anchor when you needed to stop.


Back in high school, I had a friend who built a go cart. I don't recall 
all of the details but basically it had a chain saw engine and rack and 
pinion steering that had been scavenged from some source.
There was a junior high school just up the hill from his home and the 
yard was paved all of the way around the school so they would go up 
there and take turns roaring around the school and timing the runs to 
see who was the fastest.


They had not managed to scavenge anything that would serve as brakes so ...
They tied a boat anchor onto a length of rope and would throw that out 
and hope it caught on something sturdy enough to bring the vehicle to a 
stop.


I never got the chance to try it out as I lived out of town and had to 
climb onto my school bus to head home after school but I did enjoy the 
stories about it all.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - more white hills

2014-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
My wife and I lived in a small cottage that belonged to my parents for 
the first 2 years that we were married.
It was a lovely spot overlooking Lake of the Woods and I wish we still 
owned it. I encouraged my mother to sell it after my father passed away 
and now I wonder why I did that.


In any event, there was a hill that one had to climb to get into our 
yard. It climbed maybe 30 feet in maybe 200 feet.  It was ok in the 
summer. It was a bit of a minimal road when we started living there but 
I got some gravel hauled in and we widened it a bit and filled the holes 
and flattened the ridges a bit.
Winter was a bit of a different story. The turn at the bottom of the 
hill off of the more main road was a ninety degree angle and it was not 
possible to carry much speed into the turn without ending up in the snow 
bank on the left side of the road.  My primary daily driver, work truck, 
was a 1967 Chevy short box two wheel drive pickup truck with a 250 cid 
inline 6 and a 3 speed manual tranny with column shifter. No synchro 
into low gear. It did not have the ability to turn the corner and start 
up the hill in 2nd so I would have to shift down into low on the turn 
and double clutch to do so. I won't claim I was ever very good at doing so.
We spent 2 winters there. One of them was not a problem as my father had 
a small dozer that was not being used elsewhere and I had it there all 
winter. I could plow down to the gravel if I wanted to and I could drag 
a vehicle up the hill on a chain behind the dozer if I needed to.
The other winter was a bit of a pain. I can recall coming home more than 
once in the dark and having to leave a vehicle on the hill part way up 
because I could not get all the way up to the yard. That always left us 
wondering if the vehicle would start in the morning as we then could not 
plug in the block heater. I can also recall my young wife and I out 
there shovelling off the whole hill and part of the yard. We must have 
been tougher then than we are now.
About the time that we lived there,  from   August of 1973 through to 
September of 1975, was the time that fuel prices went way up and there 
were shortages and line ups in the USA. I swapped my 68 Cougar for a 74 
Chevy Vega. Not the best choice in retrospect but I had a better 
experience with the Vega than many folks did. The Vega had about 2 
inches of ground clearance so it was not really built to travel in much 
snow.


Randy

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[MBZ] What's the list policy on for sale stuff?

2014-08-08 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
I've an 85 300d; the drivetrain seems to be in good shape but it's got a 
mangled hood, left front fender, grille, and light cluster. The front bumper 
has a scratch (deep and wide) on the top... Oil cooler and radiator are 
perforated.

But it has rust--bad; rotted through back floor in places and the trunk is 
pretty rusted through; rust is showing at the juncture of the rear quarter 
panel and the  The brake rotors are crap, forget about A/C, the rear window 
regulators are the usual sad condition, the exhaust is rotted out, the rims 
have the usual curb rash, cruise amp needs a rebuild, the trunk lid has a 
couple of reverse (from the inside) dents, one rear door check is dead (but the 
parts are likely in the door). Its not quite chicken wagon grade.

As I said, the drive train seems good (I haven't checked stretch recently, but 
it's been getting M1 for at least the past 6 years.)  I recently re-did the 
automatic antenna (the adjustable height one, starting with an ultrasonic 
cleaning), and the tires are Michelin pilots; I think they are in decent 
condition (I think they are MXM and V rated for the stiffer sidewalls...). I 
think the doors are in decent condition with respect to rust.

I'm not parting it out; make an offer (Kaleb?), BAT and take it away.  The 
location is 21204.



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Re: [MBZ] What's the list policy on for sale stuff?

2014-08-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm not aware that there is one.

I can't speak for the collective group, but unless this place starts to turn 
into CL I don't have a problem with it. I know there are people on the list 
that trade and sell regularly, so what better place to do it?

Dan

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 On Aug 8, 2014, at 3:36 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I've an 85 300d; the drivetrain seems to be in good shape but it's got a 
 mangled hood, left front fender, grille, and light cluster. The front bumper 
 has a scratch (deep and wide) on the top... Oil cooler and radiator are 
 perforated.
 
 But it has rust--bad; rotted through back floor in places and the trunk is 
 pretty rusted through; rust is showing at the juncture of the rear quarter 
 panel and the  The brake rotors are crap, forget about A/C, the rear window 
 regulators are the usual sad condition, the exhaust is rotted out, the rims 
 have the usual curb rash, cruise amp needs a rebuild, the trunk lid has a 
 couple of reverse (from the inside) dents, one rear door check is dead (but 
 the parts are likely in the door). Its not quite chicken wagon grade.
 
 As I said, the drive train seems good (I haven't checked stretch recently, 
 but it's been getting M1 for at least the past 6 years.)  I recently re-did 
 the automatic antenna (the adjustable height one, starting with an ultrasonic 
 cleaning), and the tires are Michelin pilots; I think they are in decent 
 condition (I think they are MXM and V rated for the stiffer sidewalls...). I 
 think the doors are in decent condition with respect to rust.
 
 I'm not parting it out; make an offer (Kaleb?), BAT and take it away.  The 
 location is 21204.
 
 
 
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[MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
In curious as to if anyone here has attempted plastic bumper repair using 
plastic welding, the 3M chemicals, or any other approaches.

If so, would you mind sharing your experiences with the group?

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You get a new bumper.

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 In curious as to if anyone here has attempted plastic bumper repair using 
 plastic welding, the 3M chemicals, or any other approaches.
 
 If so, would you mind sharing your experiences with the group?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And then how do you plastic weld it or use 3M chemicals on it?

Dan

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 You get a new bumper.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you 
just replace the bumper.



On 8/8/2014 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

And then how do you plastic weld it or use 3M chemicals on it?

Dan

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You get a new bumper.

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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Fair enough.  I thought you were being a smart alek.

Point well taken.

With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper covers.  
Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull and just repainting 
it to match the car?

Dan


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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace 
 the bumper.
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

IT could be both

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On 8/8/14 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Fair enough.  I thought you were being a smart alek.

Point well taken.

With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper covers.  
Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull and just repainting 
it to match the car?

Dan


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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace 
the bumper.




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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
How damaged is yours?

There is a material like bondo that is made just to repair such things.
Might want to look into that. Once the prep is done, it works like bondo
for sanding and repaint.


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 And then how do you plastic weld it or use 3M chemicals on it?

 Dan

 On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  You get a new bumper.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It may work but I do not think it would be worth the expense if 
you end up having to replace it anyway.  I would try to find a 
used one that matches, in my case I have several laying around.



On 8/8/2014 4:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Fair enough.  I thought you were being a smart alek.

Point well taken.

With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper covers.  
Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull and just repainting 
it to match the car?

Dan


On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace 
the bumper.





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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair

2014-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Or, maybe take it to someone who does that sort of work.
I suspect that it is a bit of an art and that an experienced plastic 
welder might do a whole lot better than an amateur.


Randy

On 08/08/2014 4:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
It may work but I do not think it would be worth the expense if you 
end up having to replace it anyway.  I would try to find a used one 
that matches, in my case I have several laying around.



On 8/8/2014 4:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Fair enough.  I thought you were being a smart alek.

Point well taken.

With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper 
covers.  Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull 
and just repainting it to match the car?


Dan


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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just 
replace the bumper.






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Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill

2014-08-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
WILTON wrote:
 True, but as the character was abuilding...

Yes, but all of us enjoy what was being built in them thar cigarette
fields back then.
My observation has to do with the ease by which seeming success
happens today *because* some wise invention makes ease happen.  i.e.
without experience in red mud hills, nice modern designs lose
perspective.  ABS etc are all fine, but skill is gained without ABS,
perhaps.  Interface between man and machine is part of the joy of
transportation, not just ease using ABS, etc.  I like the character
and skill that red mud hill experiences lead to rather than whatever
is built today as we zoom along on the interstate with ABS.  Today, we
get distracted persons, incompetent persons, etc - all because of the
ubiquity of ease rather than the attainment of many and varied
transportation skill.  It breaks? - yeah, just call AAA.  Not for
Curt/Wilton/mercedes-at-okiebenz - we cut off our belt to make-do with
temporary fix to get to a better place to complete the problem
resolution.  DIY rocks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill

2014-08-08 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Agreed.

Wilton

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WILTON wrote:

True, but as the character was abuilding...


Yes, but all of us enjoy what was being built in them thar cigarette
fields back then.
My observation has to do with the ease by which seeming success
happens today *because* some wise invention makes ease happen.  i.e.
without experience in red mud hills, nice modern designs lose
perspective.  ABS etc are all fine, but skill is gained without ABS,
perhaps.  Interface between man and machine is part of the joy of
transportation, not just ease using ABS, etc.  I like the character
and skill that red mud hill experiences lead to rather than whatever
is built today as we zoom along on the interstate with ABS.  Today, we
get distracted persons, incompetent persons, etc - all because of the
ubiquity of ease rather than the attainment of many and varied
transportation skill.  It breaks? - yeah, just call AAA.  Not for
Curt/Wilton/mercedes-at-okiebenz - we cut off our belt to make-do with
temporary fix to get to a better place to complete the problem
resolution.  DIY rocks.
mao

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[MBZ] GM reportedly building world's fastest pickup

2014-08-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Something for Hendrik ...

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/08/08/gm-reportedly-building-world-fastest-pickup/?intcmp=obnetwork

Holden, the Australian division of General Motors, is set to release the
world’s quickest and likely fastest pickup, News Corp Australia’s Joshua
Dowling reports.

It’s not a truck, but what folks Down Under call a “ute,” a sedan-based
two-door with an open bed. It’s basically what the Chevrolet El Camino
would’ve become if it hadn’t been put out to pasture in 1987.

This one’s built on the same platform as the Chevrolet SS, and is already
pretty sporty, but the one Holden Special Vehicles is working on will
leave the rest in the Outback dust.

Developed in secret over the past four years, the $80,000 two-seater will
be powered by a supercharged version of the GM’s 6.2-liter LS3 V8, which
produces 580 hp in the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1.

The engine also sees duty in the Holden GTS Maloo sedan, where it’s good
for a 0-60 mph run in 4.4 secs and a quarter-mile sprint in 12.3 sec. Top
speed is electronically limited to 155 mph, but has been tested above 170
mph, while the ZL1 can crack the 180 mph mark.

A previous high-performance version of the ute set the Guinness record
for fastest pickup in 2006 at 169 mph, but there’s no word yet if Holden
is planning to try to break it.

The new ute is also expected to carry the GTS Maloo name. Maloo being an
aboriginal word for thunder.

Holden has yet to confirm the vehicle’s existence, but you’ll have to
move as quickly as it apparently can if you want to order one.

Only 150 will be produced, and Holden -- along with Ford Australia, which
also sells a ute -- is shutting down its local manufacturing at the end
of 2016, so there’s a good chance it will hold the title of most powerful
Australian-built ute forever.

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