Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

I believe that Lee Valley has small stainless steel canisters.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Get a bunch of those little baggies like the dope dealers use

--R


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I believe that Lee Valley has small stainless steel canisters.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

How do you know so much about that, Rich?   ;)

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts



Get a bunch of those little baggies like the dope dealers use

--R


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I believe that Lee Valley has small stainless steel canisters.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:09:55 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Get a bunch of those little baggies like the dope dealers use
 
 --R
 
 
 On 8/11/14 11:30 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
  I believe that Lee Valley has small stainless steel canisters.

My wife likes SmartBalance margarine. I use those containers for various
things, although they (even the small ones) are not as small as 35 mm
film containers (of which I have a few).


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting 
us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate 
anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
Yes its VERY quiet.
Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more 
likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 
miles on 3 miles of capacity.

If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider 
one...

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Long drop/extension cord?   ;)

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege


At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into 
letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all 
hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.

Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
Yes its VERY quiet.
Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is 
more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. 
We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity.


If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously 
consider one...


-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm not at all adversed to an electric vehicle, and my commute would be perfect 
for one.  I have a problem with the up front costs.

How much was it?

Dan

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 On Aug 11, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting 
 us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate 
 anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
 Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
 No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
 Yes its VERY quiet.
 Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more 
 likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 
 miles on 3 miles of capacity.
 
 If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously 
 consider one...
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
List price right at $30k.

-Curt



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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
 

I'm not at all adversed to an electric vehicle, and my commute would be perfect 
for one.  I have a problem with the up front costs.

How much was it?

Dan

Sent from my iPad




 On Aug 11, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting 
 us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate 
 anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
 Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
 No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
 Yes its VERY quiet.
 Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more 
 likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 
 miles on 3 miles of capacity.
 
 If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously 
 consider one...
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Saw something the other day about the various gummint(i.e., 
taxpayer)-funded rebates and such, that some state was going to do away 
with them because most were going to people who made over $100k/yr and 
it had been determined that that was Just Not Right.


YMMV (or I guess, Your Electricity Usage Might Vary)

--R


On 8/11/14 1:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I'm not at all adversed to an electric vehicle, and my commute would be perfect 
for one.  I have a problem with the up front costs.

How much was it?

Dan

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On Aug 11, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting 
us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate 
anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
Yes its VERY quiet.
Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more 
likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 
miles on 3 miles of capacity.

If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider 
one...

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
Saw something the other day about the various gummint(i.e., 
taxpayer)-funded rebates and such, that some state was going to do away 
with them because most were going to people who made over $100k/yr and 
it had been determined that that was Just Not Right.


YMMV (or I guess, Your Electricity Usage Might Vary)



IIRC, the direct to consumer tax rebates were only good for consumers who 
actually paid individual income tax, so of course it's the top 53% of earners.


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I think there was also a state rebate of some sort that was a matter of 
controversy, in addition to the fed rebate.


--R


On 8/11/14 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
Saw something the other day about the various gummint(i.e., 
taxpayer)-funded rebates and such, that some state was going to do 
away with them because most were going to people who made over 
$100k/yr and it had been determined that that was Just Not Right.


YMMV (or I guess, Your Electricity Usage Might Vary)



IIRC, the direct to consumer tax rebates were only good for consumers 
who actually paid individual income tax, so of course it's the top 53% 
of earners.


Mitch

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[MBZ] DIY impulse counter

2014-08-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I made this yesterday (Sunday) to check for malfunction codes for the ACC
II in my '95 E300.  No malfunction codes (one flash) but the LED would glow
dimly when it was supposed to be off.  I'm wondering if the PBU ground is
weak/corroded?

The diagnostic system works by grounding the appropriate pin in the
diagnostic connector (pin 7 in this case) in impulses to output the code.
This crude counter applies battery voltage to an LED that is connected to
the test pin, so the LED lights each time the diagnostic system grounds the
pin.  Count the flashes, and you have the code that you can look up in the
FSM.  Pressing and holding the button also grounds the test pin; ground it
for 2-4 seconds to get the first code, and repeat to get any additional
codes.  Hold for 8 seconds or more to clear the codes.

Attached is a schematic I found on peach parts, which lists the radio shack
part numbers.  I substituted almost all, including a combination LED /
resistor set up for 12 vdc.  Probably about $20 in parts plus an empty pill
container.  The container fits in you hand nicely so the button can be
operated with your thumb.

I need to put some labels on the wires (Battery, Ground,  Test).

I should have dug through my parts bin, I've got some stuff that would have
worked fine, but would not have made a nice neat package like this.

Max Dillon,
Charleston
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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
Speaking of which, what does everyone use for temporary storage of not so 
little parts like bolts and such that you pull off of engines during a repair?  
I haven't seen a (metal) #10 coffee can in years.

Likewise, metal coffee cans are a thing of the past... They were great for 
washing out bearings and such.

For larger parts, I take a gallon can (like from paint thinner, etc), cut most 
of a side out and then fold the edges under to make it halfway safe.

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 On Aug 11, 2014, at 12:42, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:09:55 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Get a bunch of those little baggies like the dope dealers use
 
 --R
 
 
 On 8/11/14 11:30 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
 I believe that Lee Valley has small stainless steel canisters.
 
 My wife likes SmartBalance margarine. I use those containers for various
 things, although they (even the small ones) are not as small as 35 mm
 film containers (of which I have a few).
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:24:29 -0400
 To: diese...@pisquared.net; mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Speaking of which, what does everyone use for temporary storage of not so 
 little parts like bolts and such that you pull off of engines during a 
 repair? I haven't seen a (metal) #10 coffee can in years.

 Likewise, metal coffee cans are a thing of the past... They were great for 
 washing out bearings and such.

Au contraire mon ami.

I drink this...

http://www.stewarts.com/

Rick
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
The leaf is for pussies. Real men drive  diesels:)

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 On Aug 11, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 List price right at $30k.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 1:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
 
 
 I'm not at all adversed to an electric vehicle, and my commute would be 
 perfect for one.  I have a problem with the up front costs.
 
 How much was it?
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 11, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into 
 letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all 
 hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
 Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
 No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
 Yes its VERY quiet.
 Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more 
 likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 
 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity.
 
 If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously 
 consider one...
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
A friend's wife bought one of the little Ford hybrids. Cannot recall the 
exact name.
He says it does amazing on fuel if one tries. His wife has a bit of a 
heavy foot and does not do as well in day to day driving as he does if 
he takes it somewhere and tries to get good mileage.
Maybe not quite so green as the Leaf, but more practical with the 
gasoline engine as backup or whatever if one needs to go beyond the 
charge distance.


Randy

On 11/08/2014 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting 
us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate 
anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
Yes its VERY quiet.
Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more 
likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 
miles on 3 miles of capacity.

If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider 
one...

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 11/08/2014 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting 
us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate 
anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
Yes its VERY quiet.
Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more 
likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 
miles on 3 miles of capacity.

If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider 
one...

-Curt
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IF, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric 
vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle the load.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How does the Leaf handle heating and AC?


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On 11/08/2014 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into
 letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all
 hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
 Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
 No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
 Yes its VERY quiet.
 Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is
 more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We
 went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity.

 If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously
 consider one...

 -Curt
 ___


 IF, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric
 vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle the load.

 Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I use a small tray from the Container Store, from the back of the store
along with the silverware trays.  Cost under $4.


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:24:29 -0400
  To: diese...@pisquared.net; mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  Speaking of which, what does everyone use for temporary storage of not
 so little parts like bolts and such that you pull off of engines during a
 repair? I haven't seen a (metal) #10 coffee can in years.
 
  Likewise, metal coffee cans are a thing of the past... They were great
 for washing out bearings and such.

 Au contraire mon ami.

 I drink this...

 http://www.stewarts.com/

 Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's why you make all the hydro to ship down to us.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 11, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On 11/08/2014 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into 
 letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all 
 hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.
 Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
 No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
 Yes its VERY quiet.
 Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more 
 likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 
 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity.
 
 If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously 
 consider one...
 
 -Curt
 ___
 
 IF, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric vehicles, 
 your electric grid would not be able to handle the load.
 
 Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] DIY impulse counter

2014-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you want get fancy, or build a DIY multiplexer, you can get the 38 pin 
connectors on eBay for about $5. They sell them as some sort of a crude adapter 
cable with an ODBII connector on the other end.

Of course it doesn't work with an ODBII reader

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 11, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I made this yesterday (Sunday) to check for malfunction codes for the ACC
 II in my '95 E300.  No malfunction codes (one flash) but the LED would glow
 dimly when it was supposed to be off.  I'm wondering if the PBU ground is
 weak/corroded?
 
 The diagnostic system works by grounding the appropriate pin in the
 diagnostic connector (pin 7 in this case) in impulses to output the code.
 This crude counter applies battery voltage to an LED that is connected to
 the test pin, so the LED lights each time the diagnostic system grounds the
 pin.  Count the flashes, and you have the code that you can look up in the
 FSM.  Pressing and holding the button also grounds the test pin; ground it
 for 2-4 seconds to get the first code, and repeat to get any additional
 codes.  Hold for 8 seconds or more to clear the codes.
 
 Attached is a schematic I found on peach parts, which lists the radio shack
 part numbers.  I substituted almost all, including a combination LED /
 resistor set up for 12 vdc.  Probably about $20 in parts plus an empty pill
 container.  The container fits in you hand nicely so the button can be
 operated with your thumb.
 
 I need to put some labels on the wires (Battery, Ground,  Test).
 
 I should have dug through my parts bin, I've got some stuff that would have
 worked fine, but would not have made a nice neat package like this.
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston
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Re: [MBZ] DIY impulse counter

2014-08-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Aug 11, 2014 3:05 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I need to dig into the FSM for the diagnostic codes for other systems, I
 know the ASD has a pin, and I see the KLIMA relay also has a pin.

 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
  On Aug 11, 2014 2:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 If you want get fancy, or build a DIY multiplexer, you can get the 38 pin
 connectors on eBay for about $5. They sell them as some sort of a crude
 adapter cable with an ODBII connector on the other end.

 Of course it doesn't work with an ODBII reader

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Aug 11, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I made this yesterday (Sunday) to check for malfunction codes for the
 ACC
  II in my '95 E300.  No malfunction codes (one flash) but the LED would
 glow
  dimly when it was supposed to be off.  I'm wondering if the PBU ground
 is
  weak/corroded?
 
  The diagnostic system works by grounding the appropriate pin in the
  diagnostic connector (pin 7 in this case) in impulses to output the
 code.
  This crude counter applies battery voltage to an LED that is connected
 to
  the test pin, so the LED lights each time the diagnostic system grounds
 the
  pin.  Count the flashes, and you have the code that you can look up in
 the
  FSM.  Pressing and holding the button also grounds the test pin; ground
 it
  for 2-4 seconds to get the first code, and repeat to get any additional
  codes.  Hold for 8 seconds or more to clear the codes.
 
  Attached is a schematic I found on peach parts, which lists the radio
 shack
  part numbers.  I substituted almost all, including a combination LED /
  resistor set up for 12 vdc.  Probably about $20 in parts plus an empty
 pill
  container.  The container fits in you hand nicely so the button can be
  operated with your thumb.
 
  I need to put some labels on the wires (Battery, Ground,  Test).
 
  I should have dug through my parts bin, I've got some stuff that would
 have
  worked fine, but would not have made a nice neat package like this.
 
  Max Dillon,
  Charleston
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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Si si, I've got more than a few metal cans from my favorite Italian
espresso.  I also get plastic cans from our coffee mess at work, handy for
sealing up parts for protection against corrosion.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Yep, I was 'bout to say, We could suck more outta the Great White North.

Wilt

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To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege



That's why you make all the hydro to ship down to us.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 11, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


On 11/08/2014 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into 
letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards 
all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one.

Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta.
No its not tinny or cheap feeling.
Yes its VERY quiet.
Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta.
100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is 
more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. 
We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity.


If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously 
consider one...


-Curt
___


IF, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric 
vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle the load.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] DIY impulse counter

2014-08-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Somehow this picture didn't make it.

Max Dillon,
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:34:18 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 IF, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric 
 vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle the load.

Yes, indeed.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] DIY impulse counter

2014-08-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Nother ATTABOY.

Wilt

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Somehow this picture didn't make it.

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Re: [MBZ] DIY impulse counter

2014-08-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:04:51 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I made this yesterday (Sunday) to check for malfunction codes for the
 ACC II in my '95 E300.

Good job, it looks like a useful tool.


 No malfunction codes (one flash) but the LED would glow dimly when it
 was supposed to be off.  I'm wondering if the PBU ground is
 weak/corroded?

No, the LED glowing dimly indicates some leakage in the PBU from the
point where J2 is connected to ground.


 Attached is a schematic I found on peach parts, which lists the radio
 shack part numbers.  I substituted almost all, including a combination
 LED / resistor set up for 12 vdc.  Probably about $20 in parts plus an
 empty pill container.  The container fits in you hand nicely so the
 button can be operated with your thumb.

$20! What in the world cost that much?!


 I should have dug through my parts bin, I've got some stuff that would
 have worked fine, but would not have made a nice neat package like this.

You could have used a wire-leaded LED and put it inside the pill bottle.
The only things that need to be outside the bottle are the button of the
pushbutton switch and the wire leads.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Rick wrote:
 Au contraire mon ami.

 I drink this...

 http://www.stewarts.com/

I guess I gotta pay attention to the local favorite!!
My mom drank nuttin' but Stewarts.
The boss bought nuttin' but Stewarts.
I should go back to that old favorite.
Thanks for the reminder.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Randy wrote:
 IF, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric vehicles,
 your electric grid would not be able to handle the load.

Let's try, okay?
Each of us okiebenz readers gotta commit to purchase EV, okay?
If we gotta go further - bus/cab/train/rental will do fine, I suspect.
Like the bumper sticker I always luv'd on Denver vehicles - let the
bastards freeze in the dark.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Aug 11, 2014 2:22 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 I think there was also a state rebate of some sort that was a matter of
controversy, in addition to the fed rebate.

My manager just leased a Leaf for $278/month, with a $2000 down payment
(paid in trade).  He is very happy with it.  No extra rebates in NC, that's
the actual price.

My wife just got a Ford CMax with a plug, but we have nowhere to plug it
in.  She occasionally can charge at work.  The car is nice - I drove it ten
hours over the weekend, average 42.2 mpg - and while it's not Benz
comfortable it is a lot better than the van.  The front and rear sensors
are good, acceleration and breaking are right, seats and moon roof are
pleasant.  The nav computer is terrible: Microsoft Sync is unusable, the
navigation is flaky, the terrestrial radio doesn't work reliably, satellite
radio goes in and out all the time.  I connected my phone over Bluetooth
(that part works) and I was able to ignore the rest of the deficiencies:
classic problem of great hardware, lousy software.

I have no idea how much she is paying on the car, but probably a lot more
than the Leaf, which is similarly appointed.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] DIY impulse counter

2014-08-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Craig,

Fuse holder, pack of five fuses, two banana plugs, pack of four SPST
momentary switches (only single packs were too large), LED with built-in
resistor: it all adds up quickly...

PBU Ground: thanks for addressing that, I was worried that a bad ground
might be contributing to some strange behavior.  Last week the blower
stopped and started on its own several times, and I'm still concerned that
the AC compressor is cutting out when it shouldn't.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Aug 11, 2014 6:23 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:04:51 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I made this yesterday (Sunday) to check for malfunction codes for the
  ACC II in my '95 E300.

 Good job, it looks like a useful tool.


  No malfunction codes (one flash) but the LED would glow dimly when it
  was supposed to be off.  I'm wondering if the PBU ground is
  weak/corroded?

 No, the LED glowing dimly indicates some leakage in the PBU from the
 point where J2 is connected to ground.


  Attached is a schematic I found on peach parts, which lists the radio
  shack part numbers.  I substituted almost all, including a combination
  LED / resistor set up for 12 vdc.  Probably about $20 in parts plus an
  empty pill container.  The container fits in you hand nicely so the
  button can be operated with your thumb.

 $20! What in the world cost that much?!


  I should have dug through my parts bin, I've got some stuff that would
  have worked fine, but would not have made a nice neat package like this.

 You could have used a wire-leaded LED and put it inside the pill bottle.
 The only things that need to be outside the bottle are the button of the
 pushbutton switch and the wire leads.


 Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
  Curt Raymond wrote:
 
  At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked
  him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. 

 Randy wrote:
 
 If, all of you folks down south of the border were to get
 electric vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle
 the load.

Maybe.  But if the recharge is set to occur over-night, that is
when the power plants would like a bit more load to even out the
demand compared to daytime use.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its not like everybody could run out and buy a new car tomorrow anyway. As load 
ramps up our electric utilities will be forced to add line capacity. Around 
here theres a LOT of solar coming in which will reduce the load on the heavy 
wire grid by making neighborhoods more self sufficient. Within a block of my 
house I bet theres 2-3 killowatts of solar. Within 10 miles of where I sit 
theres 4.5 megawatts of windpower.

During the day you produce solar which powers Northfield mountain to pump water 
from the Connecticut river up into a huge lake where the took the top off the 
mountain. At night the water flows back down and makes electricity. Essentially 
a huge battery...

-Curt



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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
 

  Curt Raymond wrote:
 
  At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked
  him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. 

 Randy wrote:
 
 If, all of you folks down south of the border were to get



 electric vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle
 the load.

Maybe.  But if the recharge is set to occur over-night, that is
when the power plants would like a bit more load to even out the
demand compared to daytime use.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
I'm pretty sure we can still get large metal coffee cans at Walmart -   
I have a couple iin my garage.


But for storing small parts I prefer using Tupperware type of plastic 
containers as I dislike rummaging through 10# coffee cans full of misc 
stuff..   They have snap-on lids and are transparent enough to see 
the things stored inside.   I get them on sale at ~$5 for 3 - 1 quart 
sized containers.  Costco has them at times... They also last a long time.


When disassembling an engine I put the parts inside zip-lock storage 
bags which are labelled to make re-assy easier.   I did this when I did 
a full restore on my '66 MGB  it was a good thing I did that as the 
restore lasted much longer than I thought due mostly to my health which 
put me out of action for long periods.Without those storage bags and 
their labels I'd still be looking at fasteners wondering where they 
went...  or else there'd be a pile of fasteners left over...  ;-)


LarryT


On 8/11/2014 2:24 PM, John Reames -- Mercedes wrote:

Speaking of which, what does everyone use for temporary storage of not so 
little parts like bolts and such that you pull off of engines during a repair?  
I haven't seen a (metal) #10 coffee can in years.

Likewise, metal coffee cans are a thing of the past... They were great for 
washing out bearings and such.

For larger parts, I take a gallon can (like from paint thinner, etc), cut most 
of a side out and then fold the edges under to make it halfway safe.

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On Aug 11, 2014, at 12:42, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:09:55 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Get a bunch of those little baggies like the dope dealers use

--R



On 8/11/14 11:30 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
I believe that Lee Valley has small stainless steel canisters.

My wife likes SmartBalance margarine. I use those containers for various
things, although they (even the small ones) are not as small as 35 mm
film containers (of which I have a few).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I saw that Chevy is coming out with an all new Volt in Jan, or there
about. I was impressed with the design of the Volt drive train - but not
with the price, hence I didn't by one. The new one is rumored to be less
expensive - too bad that I've already purchased my (hopefully) last new
car.
A buddy does have a nice Porsche 944 Turbo for sale that is sorely tempting
me though . . . . .


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Its not like everybody could run out and buy a new car tomorrow anyway. As
 load ramps up our electric utilities will be forced to add line capacity.
 Around here theres a LOT of solar coming in which will reduce the load on
 the heavy wire grid by making neighborhoods more self sufficient. Within a
 block of my house I bet theres 2-3 killowatts of solar. Within 10 miles of
 where I sit theres 4.5 megawatts of windpower.

 During the day you produce solar which powers Northfield mountain to pump
 water from the Connecticut river up into a huge lake where the took the top
 off the mountain. At night the water flows back down and makes electricity.
 Essentially a huge battery...

 -Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
My wife uses an expensive Cascade dishwasher detergent that comes in a
plastic rectangular tub that I use for the larger bolts, hose clamps, etc.
They are challenged with head bolts, but are generally OK otherwise and I'm
keeping them out of the landfill.


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:24 PM, John Reames via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Speaking of which, what does everyone use for temporary storage of not so
 little parts like bolts and such that you pull off of engines during a
 repair?



-- 
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts

2014-08-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Wow, you married well!


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:24 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 My wife uses an expensive Cascade dishwasher detergent that comes in a
 plastic rectangular tub that I use for the larger bolts, hose clamps, etc.
 They are challenged with head bolts, but are generally OK otherwise and I'm
 keeping them out of the landfill.


 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:24 PM, John Reames via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Speaking of which, what does everyone use for temporary storage of not so
  little parts like bolts and such that you pull off of engines during a
  repair?
 
 

 --
 OK Don

 NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

 There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves.

 WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] Wow now this is nice but the guy is on crack

2014-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes


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Re: [MBZ] Wow now this is nice but the guy is on crack

2014-08-11 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
But it is your color Kaleb.
On Aug 11, 2014 10:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
The Lone Star State in the 70's oil embargo.They were annoyed with the NE users 
of their oil, thus the bumper sticker.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:14:51 -0500
 To: rbenn...@bennell.ca; mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 Randy wrote:
  IF, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric vehicles,
  your electric grid would not be able to handle the load.
 
 Let's try, okay?
 Each of us okiebenz readers gotta commit to purchase EV, okay?
 If we gotta go further - bus/cab/train/rental will do fine, I suspect.
 Like the bumper sticker I always luv'd on Denver vehicles - let the
 bastards freeze in the dark.
 mao
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

2014-08-11 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
   Curt Raymond wrote:
  
   At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked
   him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. 
 
   Randy wrote:
   
   If, all of you folks down south of the border were to get
   electric vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to
   handle the load.

   Fmiser wrote:
  
  Maybe.  But if the recharge is set to occur over-night, that
  is when the power plants would like a bit more load to even out
  the demand compared to daytime use.

 Curt wrote:
 
 Its not like everybody could run out and buy a new car tomorrow
 anyway. As load ramps up our electric utilities will be forced to
 add line capacity. 

That's fine on paper - but the EPA is making it really difficult to
get _any_ new generators built.  Around here they have been trying
to add base-load capacity but either can't or
can't-because-it's-to-expensive.

 Around here theres a LOT of solar coming in which will reduce the
 load on the heavy wire grid by making neighborhoods more self
 sufficient. 

 During the day you produce solar which powers Northfield mountain
 to pump water from the Connecticut river up into a huge lake
 where the took the top off the mountain. At night the water flows
 back down and makes electricity. Essentially a huge battery...

And there is the issue with solar - and wind.  It can never be a
significant fraction of the base load generators because it isn't
dependable.  Nor can it be used for on-demand peak load.  Using a
mechanical battery is a really good way to make average capacity
meet unpredictable demand, but EPA gets their grubby fingers into
that pot too.  I think they were reason a system like that in south
central Missouri was _not_ repaired.

Still, every Watt generated some way other than fossil fuel is one
Watt less that must come from fossil fuel.

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