Re: [MBZ] OT: Win7 SP1 and Oz lingo learnings

2014-08-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes
Dunno mate, seems like macs are a tad pricey, at the mo we are having an 
issue getting iphoto or some such thing back on the mac, seems after I 
updated the software, as per apple instructions, you now have to pay for it.
No wonder people pirate and steal all the stuff they can lay their hands 
on, if it costs a couple of bucks or so, people wouldn't bother to find 
an alternative or steal it from somewhere.
Anyway on a related NSFW note, contains lots of adult words buy hey they 
gotta learn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQRZXM-4xIlist=RDDHQRZXM-4xI#t=48

Hendrik
who is in the 30%

PS what do you call a boomerang that won't come back? A stick!

On 17/08/14 23:35, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Macs rule!

MacDann typing this from his 2006 Mac Pro with twin 20 Cinema Displays running 
Mavericks and editing his new web site with iWeb



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[MBZ] Munich considers dumping Linux for Windows!

2014-08-19 Thread Archer75--- via Mercedes
The German city of Munich, which famously adopted Linux and open source 
across its operations, may be about to reverse that decision.


German newspaper /Süddeutsche/ reports 
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/muenchner-stadtverwaltung-von-microsoft-zu-linux-und-zurueck-1.2090611 
deputy mayor Josef Schmid as saying the city is considering the move 
because users often complain about the functionality available in 
open-source applications.


The lack of an integrated contact, calendar and email application is 
cited as staff's chief gripe. The /Süddeutsche/ story also mentions a 
need to set up an external email server to allow the City's mobile 
devices to send and receive messages.


So vociferous are the complaints that the city council will create an 
expert panel to assess the performance of its chosen software. Schmid is 
quoted as saying that if the panel recommends a return to Microsoft, he 
won't oppose that change.


There are no German speakers in Vulture South or Vulture West, the /Reg/ 
offices working on this story, so we're reliant on machine translation 
and its nuance-stripping machinations. But even after we stuffed the 
story through three – Bing, Google and Babel Fish – the meaning came 
across as reported above.


If Munich decides to revert to commercial software, the open-source 
movement will lose one of its most visible champions.


Of course, since Munich decided to go with Linux back in 2004 and spend 
about 10 years 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/12/16/munich_signs_off_on_open_source_project/ 
installing it, open-source software has had innumerable wins – not least 
its widespread use in mobile devices, web servers, cloud infrastructure 
and many other fields.


Losing Munich would therefore be a symbolic loss, but in many ways 
open-source code and Linux have long since won far more important battles.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/19/munich_dumping_linux_for_windows/

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Re: [MBZ] Stupid people aka drongos

2014-08-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes

You pay peanuts you get monkeys.
Seriously though I would have thought a lapdog HD is a SSD and as such 
pretty robust.
Just don't ask them to ship you that rare crystal vase you bought Reggie 
for Mum's day.


Hendrik
who burned meat today and consumed beer but not from a esky

On 19/08/14 07:31, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:49:09 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Had my office ship me a spare hard drive for a lap top. It arrived in
about a 4x6 box, just in the box, just the jar drive, no packing
material, just in the empty box. Fixing to install it, wonder what the
chances are it's still good.

I once bought a hard drive from someone on eBay. It arrived wrapped in
a layer of cardboard. It worked.


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Munich considers dumping Linux for Windows!

2014-08-19 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 The German city of Munich, which famously adopted Linux and open source
 across its operations, may be about to reverse that decision.

 German newspaper /Süddeutsche/ reports http://www.sueddeutsche.de/
 muenchen/muenchner-stadtverwaltung-von-microsoft-
 zu-linux-und-zurueck-1.2090611 deputy mayor Josef Schmid as saying the
 city is considering the move because users often complain about the
 functionality available in open-source applications.

 The lack of an integrated contact, calendar and email application is cited
 as staff's chief gripe. The /Süddeutsche/ story also mentions a need to set
 up an external email server to allow the City's mobile devices to send and
 receive messages.

 So vociferous are the complaints that the city council will create an
 expert panel to assess the performance of its chosen software. Schmid is
 quoted as saying that if the panel recommends a return to Microsoft, he
 won't oppose that change.

 There are no German speakers in Vulture South or Vulture West, the /Reg/
 offices working on this story, so we're reliant on machine translation and
 its nuance-stripping machinations. But even after we stuffed the story
 through three - Bing, Google and Babel Fish - the meaning came across as
 reported above.

 If Munich decides to revert to commercial software, the open-source
 movement will lose one of its most visible champions.


http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/08/linux-on-the-desktop-pioneer-munich-now-considering-a-switch-back-to-windows/


These views aren't held universally, with the City Council
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Linux-in-Muenchen-Stadtrat-verteidigt-LiMux-gegen-Buergermeister-2262506.html
defending
the LiMux project and suggesting that the coalition administration is
using the Linux migration as a scapegoat. The Council says the use of open
source software has yielded savings of more than EURO 10 million (more than $13
million).

Karl-Heinz Schneider, head of municipal IT services, seems to endorse this
view. He says it's no surprise that a new platform should temporarily
generate more support requests, and he wasn't aware of any particular
complaints.

Microsoft announced last year that it was moving its German headquarters to
Munich. This move is planned to take place in 2016. While Reiter was
involved in the deal that precipitated the move and describes himself as a
Microsoft fan, he says the criticism of LiMux is unrelated.


Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] MX Record Help

2014-08-19 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 In other words, how would they resolve my domain name to my personal
 account?


They don't, and they never did.  You were using a mail forwarding service
before.  It captured mail to your address, stuck it in an envelope
addressed to @verizon, and sent it to the Verizon SMTP service.  Here is
how my DNS service describes it:
http://sunset.zoneedit.com/mailforward.html

Now it sounds like your mail will be returned undeliverable by the Verizon
SMTP service.

Once upon a time, mail forwarding services were free or cheap with DNS.
 Not sure how it is now, though the new owners of ZoneEdit claim the free
tiers will be returning soon.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] MX Record Help

2014-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I got it sorted out by changing back to the MX server address at 1and1.  
All seems to be well at this point.

The real rub is the proper sequence of what steps to take when transferring an 
actively hosted domain.  The process varies slightly from one provider to 
another, which is where I got screwed up.

In fairness to 1and1, despite their crappy mail services, as soon as I talked 
to their support people they knew what to do and made changes in my hosting 
account that allowed the domain transfers to take place.

GoDaddy has some complicity in this as well, as they encourage you to enable 
off-site DNS when you're transferring domains.  While this makes it easy on 
their end for the transfer, they say nothing about it interrupting other 
services, such as mail, by doing so.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 In other words, how would they resolve my domain name to my personal
 account?
 
 They don't, and they never did.  You were using a mail forwarding service
 before.  It captured mail to your address, stuck it in an envelope
 addressed to @verizon, and sent it to the Verizon SMTP service.  Here is
 how my DNS service describes it:
 http://sunset.zoneedit.com/mailforward.html
 
 Now it sounds like your mail will be returned undeliverable by the Verizon
 SMTP service.
 
 Once upon a time, mail forwarding services were free or cheap with DNS.
 Not sure how it is now, though the new owners of ZoneEdit claim the free
 tiers will be returning soon.
 
 Best,
 Tim
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Re: [MBZ] MX Record Help

2014-08-19 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 As one might expect, when the DNS changes propagated, it broke my mail,
  as the MX records didn't match in DNS.


[cronet@usencorzimd3c nfstests]$ dig penoff.com any
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;penoff.com.IN  ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
penoff.com. 3410IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.
penoff.com. 3410IN  NS  mns02.domaincontrol.com.
penoff.com. 3410IN  MX  20 mx01.1and1.com.
penoff.com. 3410IN  MX  10 mx00.1and1.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
penoff.com. 3410IN  NS  mns02.domaincontrol.com.
penoff.com. 3410IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
mns01.domaincontrol.com. 18499  IN  A   216.69.185.31
mns01.domaincontrol.com. 18499  IN  2607:f208:206::1f
mns02.domaincontrol.com. 18499  IN  A   208.109.255.31
mns02.domaincontrol.com. 18499  IN  2607:f208:302::1f
mx00.1and1.com. 3548IN  A   74.208.5.3

;; Query time: 101 msec

So I guess it is still cached on my work DNS.  You can try the dig command
against your DNS:
dig penoff.com any @8.8.8.8

[craig@mccluskey ~]$ host penoff.com
 penoff.com mail is handled by 10 smtp.verizon.net.
 [craig@mccluskey ~]$


Looks like it propagated to Craig's well enough.  dig is an easy Linux
and Unix command for dealing with DNS records directly: you can issue
dig domain MX +short
for the MX records, or
dig domain  +short
for the IPv6 addresses, or
dig domain +short
for the IPv4 addresses.  And +short is optional.


  I can configure the MX servers in my DNS control panel at GoDaddy,
  however, I'm a little confused as to how my mail will get to Verizon.
  I say that since the former incoming mail from my web host was
  forwarded to Verizon (dpen...@verizon.net) in this form, not as
  d...@penoff.com.

 With your information at GoDaddy, I presume you have some sort of mail
 handling service so mail coming to your domain is not rejected. If you
 do (and I don't see how you would not), all you need to do is set it up
 to forward from d...@penoff.com to dpen...@verison.net.


I think mail forwarding is a paid service at GoDaddy, at least if you are
just using them for registration.  You would set the MX records to point to
GoDaddy, though they should walk you through that.


 My situation is slightly different because my domain hosting and email
  serving are by the same company. I do, however, have a forward from, for
 example, diese...@pisquared.net to the account at which I really pick up
 my email. That forward is a part of my domain hosting.


That is another possibility, your web host might include e-mail and/or
e-mail forwarding.  Is that GoDaddy also?

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] MX Record Help

2014-08-19 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Yeah, I got it sorted out by changing back to the MX server address at
 1and1.  All seems to be well at this point.


Ah, that explains my results in reply to Craig.


 The real rub is the proper sequence of what steps to take when
 transferring an actively hosted domain.  The process varies slightly from
 one provider to another, which is where I got screwed up.


In a transfer, you have to make sure that both the original and target
services are running, and synchronized.  That is oddly difficult.  GoDaddy
is right that a third party is a good move, because you can put up a
Temporarily out of order sign while you are dealing with making sure
everything transferred correctly.  This prevents someone from being halfway
through a transaction during the transfer.

Basically, with this transfer, you are dealing with at least:
 - registrar, which points to your DNS server;
 - DNS, which points to your web and mail hosts;
 - web host;
 - mail receiver;
 - mail forwarder, which points to your real e-mail address.

You have to make sure all of these are set up correctly on both the old and
the new hosts.  The more of these that are operated by the same vendor, the
less visible it is during the transfer.  Since I have different services
for each (except my forwarder and receiver are the same, and my web host is
expired) it makes it easy to change any one at a whim.

With your external DNS you could point to the 1and1 mail servers I listed
before, and they would continue to forward your mail until your term
expires.  That might be a good interim step.

Best,
Tim
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[MBZ] A bit OT -- SR Sprinter camper

2014-08-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
You can own your very own Shovels and Rope RV!  My neighbors are moving 
up in the world, selling their RV for a bigger one as success grows. 
http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2008-Winnebago-View-24J-112770106


Last night a local artsy movie theater showed the new documentary about 
them, it was very good.  it is going to be shown at various places 
around the country if anyone is interested. 
http://theballadofshovelsandrope.com/


My neighbor across the road had his annual oyster roast in January and 
always has some music, some local band or people he knows or something.  
This year he had The Butterbeans, from our little island, who as I 
listened I realized they were really good, like REALLY good, and 
wondered why I had never heard of them.  At some point the girl singing 
said they had added a few friends to round out the band for fun, but 
usually just she and her husband played as Shovels and Rope.  I had 
heard them before on the radio but had not seen them, so it was a real 
treat, and that explained why they were REALLY good.  They are hitting 
the big time now (but apparently still living in a ratty little house up 
the road, when they are here) so if you like country/folk/rock sort of 
music, check them out.  Their new album is coming out next week.


--R





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Re: [MBZ] MX Record Help

2014-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm hosting both domains and web sites, so I have mail services as a part of my 
hosting package. That includes forwarding as well.

Thanks for the tool info. Quite handy!

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 As one might expect, when the DNS changes propagated, it broke my mail,
 as the MX records didn't match in DNS.
 
 [cronet@usencorzimd3c nfstests]$ dig penoff.com any
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;penoff.com.IN  ANY
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 penoff.com. 3410IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.
 penoff.com. 3410IN  NS  mns02.domaincontrol.com.
 penoff.com. 3410IN  MX  20 mx01.1and1.com.
 penoff.com. 3410IN  MX  10 mx00.1and1.com.
 
 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 penoff.com. 3410IN  NS  mns02.domaincontrol.com.
 penoff.com. 3410IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.
 
 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 mns01.domaincontrol.com. 18499  IN  A   216.69.185.31
 mns01.domaincontrol.com. 18499  IN  2607:f208:206::1f
 mns02.domaincontrol.com. 18499  IN  A   208.109.255.31
 mns02.domaincontrol.com. 18499  IN  2607:f208:302::1f
 mx00.1and1.com. 3548IN  A   74.208.5.3
 
 ;; Query time: 101 msec
 
 So I guess it is still cached on my work DNS.  You can try the dig command
 against your DNS:
 dig penoff.com any @8.8.8.8
 
 [craig@mccluskey ~]$ host penoff.com
 penoff.com mail is handled by 10 smtp.verizon.net.
 [craig@mccluskey ~]$
 
 Looks like it propagated to Craig's well enough.  dig is an easy Linux
 and Unix command for dealing with DNS records directly: you can issue
 dig domain MX +short
 for the MX records, or
 dig domain  +short
 for the IPv6 addresses, or
 dig domain +short
 for the IPv4 addresses.  And +short is optional.
 
 
 I can configure the MX servers in my DNS control panel at GoDaddy,
 however, I'm a little confused as to how my mail will get to Verizon.
 I say that since the former incoming mail from my web host was
 forwarded to Verizon (dpen...@verizon.net) in this form, not as
 d...@penoff.com.
 
 With your information at GoDaddy, I presume you have some sort of mail
 handling service so mail coming to your domain is not rejected. If you
 do (and I don't see how you would not), all you need to do is set it up
 to forward from d...@penoff.com to dpen...@verison.net.
 
 I think mail forwarding is a paid service at GoDaddy, at least if you are
 just using them for registration.  You would set the MX records to point to
 GoDaddy, though they should walk you through that.
 
 
 My situation is slightly different because my domain hosting and email
 serving are by the same company. I do, however, have a forward from, for
 example, diese...@pisquared.net to the account at which I really pick up
 my email. That forward is a part of my domain hosting.
 
 That is another possibility, your web host might include e-mail and/or
 e-mail forwarding.  Is that GoDaddy also?
 
 Best,
 Tim
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Re: [MBZ] MX Record Help

2014-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And that's exactly what I did.

Now the only thing I will need to do when the domain transfer occurs is to go 
in to my domain management at GoDaddy and set up the domain email addresses and 
the forwarding to my ISP.

Again, this is certainly not rocket science, but the service providers leave a 
lot of the details out.  I feel for those who don't have a grasp of what this 
entails on the back end

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, I got it sorted out by changing back to the MX server address at
 1and1.  All seems to be well at this point.
 
 Ah, that explains my results in reply to Craig.
 
 
 The real rub is the proper sequence of what steps to take when
 transferring an actively hosted domain.  The process varies slightly from
 one provider to another, which is where I got screwed up.
 
 In a transfer, you have to make sure that both the original and target
 services are running, and synchronized.  That is oddly difficult.  GoDaddy
 is right that a third party is a good move, because you can put up a
 Temporarily out of order sign while you are dealing with making sure
 everything transferred correctly.  This prevents someone from being halfway
 through a transaction during the transfer.
 
 Basically, with this transfer, you are dealing with at least:
 - registrar, which points to your DNS server;
 - DNS, which points to your web and mail hosts;
 - web host;
 - mail receiver;
 - mail forwarder, which points to your real e-mail address.
 
 You have to make sure all of these are set up correctly on both the old and
 the new hosts.  The more of these that are operated by the same vendor, the
 less visible it is during the transfer.  Since I have different services
 for each (except my forwarder and receiver are the same, and my web host is
 expired) it makes it easy to change any one at a whim.
 
 With your external DNS you could point to the 1and1 mail servers I listed
 before, and they would continue to forward your mail until your term
 expires.  That might be a good interim step.
 
 Best,
 Tim
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Re: [MBZ] MX Record Help

2014-08-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:16:58 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Thanks for the tool info. Quite handy!

Yes, Tim, thank you for the information about the dig command.

I'll have to add that to my repertoire.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] MX Record Help

2014-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A good online tool I have used for work is mxtoolbox.com 

Lots of good utilities there.

Dan

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 wrote:
 
 On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:16:58 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for the tool info. Quite handy!
 
 Yes, Tim, thank you for the information about the dig command.
 
 I'll have to add that to my repertoire.
 
 
 Craig
 
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[MBZ] New Corvette will record every move a valet driver makes

2014-08-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Have you felt apprehension about handing over your car keys to a valet?
You will now appreciate the peace of mind of knowing exactly what happened
while you baby was out of sight.

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-corvette-records-valet-driver-20140819-story.html


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Re: [MBZ] New Corvette will record every move a valet driver makes

2014-08-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I love that concept.  Now if I could only afford a valet


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 Have you felt apprehension about handing over your car keys to a valet?
 You will now appreciate the peace of mind of knowing exactly what happened
 while you baby was out of sight.


 http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-corvette-records-valet-driver-20140819-story.html


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Re: [MBZ] New Corvette will record every move a valet driver makes

2014-08-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 19/08/2014 2:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

Have you felt apprehension about handing over your car keys to a valet?
You will now appreciate the peace of mind of knowing exactly what happened
while you baby was out of sight.

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-corvette-records-valet-driver-20140819-story.html


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Does it also provide evidence for the police to use against you if they 
give you a ticket for trying to use some of the offered performance?


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[MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/4618189870.html

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Re: [MBZ] W124 headlights [was Re: headlight brightness, 123 126]

2014-08-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
95 has Euro spec headlights from the factory, one of the reasons for  
buying one.


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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
$7900??

It's definitely a nice car, but not eight grand nice.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its an automatic, so not perfect...

I'll keep telling myself that.

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I would have a hard time paying half that. 

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 $7900??
 
 It's definitely a nice car, but not eight grand nice.
 
 Dan
 
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[MBZ] OT: One-of-a-kind air accident

2014-08-19 Thread Archer75--- via Mercedes


 Pilot’s artificial arm detached while landing

Incident happened on British carrier Flybe during 47-passenger flight 
from Birmingham to Belfast, says air-accident agency


LONDON — A British air accident report has recounted how a pilot lost 
control of a passenger plane after his artificial arm became detached 
during landing.


The report says the incident took place as the Flybe flight from 
Birmingham, carrying 47 passengers, was approaching Belfast City Airport 
in gusty conditions in February.


The 46-year-old pilot had shortly before checked that his prosthetic 
lower left arm was securely attached to the yoke clamp, but as he 
performed a maneuver just before touchdown the limb became detached.


The Air Accidents Investigation Branch said Thursday he then moved his 
right hand to the yoke to regain control. Winds caused the plane to land 
heavily with a bounce.


No one was hurt in the incident.

http://seattletimes.com/html/travel/2024309787_pilotartificialarmxml.html


I wonder if he could even get a private pilots license in the U.S.?

Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:21:57 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Its an automatic, so not perfect...

Also, A/C works great and was converted to R134A in 2012.


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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I actually think that is a very fair price, if it’s represented accurately.  If 
I isn’t a;ready have a pristine ’85 300D, and two other project cars….this 
would be very attractive.   Hmmm, Maybe for my daughter?

Jon

PS:  Barring unforeseen snafu, the ’68 250S is doing to ChowdahQ!


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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
OBTW,  I never have learned how to type worth a s***…….

Just saying.


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 I actually think that is a very fair price, if it’s represented accurately.  
 If I isn’t a;ready have a pristine ’85 300D, and two other project cars….this 
 would be very attractive.   Hmmm, Maybe for my daughter?
 
 Jon
 
 PS:  Barring unforeseen snafu, the ’68 250S is doing to ChowdahQ!
 
 
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[MBZ] Chowdah Q

2014-08-19 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of chowder.  
More later, as we have work out the logistics.  I’ll be coming from NYC……he’ll 
be coming from Maine.


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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes I agree. One of the early mantras on this list was nothing as expensive
as a  cheap mercededes. I'd pay that if I needed a nice driver. If you
bring the 68 250s  youvll be in the running for earliest benz.
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 I actually think that is a very fair price, if it’s represented
 accurately.  If I isn’t a;ready have a pristine ’85 300D, and two other
 project cars….this would be very attractive.   Hmmm, Maybe for my daughter?

 Jon

 PS:  Barring unforeseen snafu, the ’68 250S is doing to ChowdahQ!


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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the green car comes along it is not way too much money

2014-08-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes
Tis an odd one, looks like a basic Euro version with stupid US stuff 
bolted on.
Anyway I don't think the price is outrageous, if the mileage is correct 
and everything checks out.

Rustfree, well that may not be true.
From what I have seen the 123 has long since moved off the bottom of 
the depreciation cycle, the better 124's are moving up and the 210 is 
just about at the bottom.

123's are now selling based on condition, not age.
Many an article extolling the virtues of the 123 out there, especially 
the oil burners.

And what about that mob that specialise in selling 123's for crazy prices?
I really think this is a car for someone who appreciates the 123 chassis 
and not some nutjob who is going to whack in some homebrew cooking oil 
still in the boot.

Also consider how many miles that thing will go before needing serious work.
You buy a 3k 123 with issues and 200k miles, how much you gonna spend to 
get it into that sort of shape? To me the big ticket items are paint and 
rust because I can't do them myself to a satisfactory standard.


Hendrik
who likes that 123, except for the US stuff

On 20/08/14 07:51, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I would have a hard time paying half that.

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$7900??

It's definitely a nice car, but not eight grand nice.

Dan


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http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/4618189870.html



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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q

2014-08-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Ok- that would be great. But if logistics are a challenge don't worry
because it all starts out clear   I can just not add milk to some. I went
clam digging last week with my new knee   did fine. So I should be in good
shape for the Q.
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 Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of
 chowder.  More later, as we have work out the logistics.  I’ll be coming
 from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine.


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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q

2014-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
When is the chowdah q?

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 Ok- that would be great. But if logistics are a challenge don't worry
 because it all starts out clear   I can just not add milk to some. I went
 clam digging last week with my new knee   did fine. So I should be in good
 shape for the Q.
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 Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of
 chowder.  More later, as we have work out the logistics.  I’ll be coming
 from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q

2014-08-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Saturday September 13.
I will send out details this weekend as we'd love to have you attend.
On Aug 19, 2014 9:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 When is the chowdah q?

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  On Aug 19, 2014, at 7:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Ok- that would be great. But if logistics are a challenge don't worry
  because it all starts out clear   I can just not add milk to some. I
 went
  clam digging last week with my new knee   did fine. So I should be in
 good
  shape for the Q.
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  wrote:
 
  Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of
  chowder.  More later, as we have work out the logistics.  I’ll be coming
  from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Holy crap why is it every time the perfect car comes along it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.

2014-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You're going to have a line around the block to give rides in that!

-Curt



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it is way too much money WARNING Jaime do not look.
 

I actually think that is a very fair price, if it’s represented accurately.  If 
I isn’t a;ready have a pristine ’85 300D, and two other project cars….this 
would be very attractive.   Hmmm, Maybe for my daughter?

Jon

PS:  Barring unforeseen snafu, the ’68 250S is doing to ChowdahQ!


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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q

2014-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Forgetting the message size limit I sent the flyer directly, heres a link to my 
Photobucket account which is also where the after action photos will end up.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/ChowdaQ2014/chowdaQ2014_zps4b6d65b3.png


-Curt



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To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
 

When is the chowdah q?

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 On Aug 19, 2014, at 7:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Ok- that would be great. But if logistics are a challenge don't worry
 because it all starts out clear   I can just not add milk to some. I went
 clam digging last week with my new knee   did fine. So I should be in good
 shape for the Q.
 On Aug 19, 2014 8:25 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of
 chowder.  More later, as we have work out the logistics.  I’ll be coming
 from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine.
 
 
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[MBZ] OT: WWII Carrier Training

2014-08-19 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I don't know how many brown shoes we have on the list, but this
lesser-known chapter of WWII history may interest them:

 

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3t=48962
t=48962

 

Scott

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: WWII Carrier Training

2014-08-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:01:17 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I don't know how many brown shoes we have on the list, but this
 lesser-known chapter of WWII history may interest them:
 
  
 
 http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3t=48962
 http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3t=48962

Someone else posted it a few months ago, but it was interesting looking
at the pictures again.

Lots of mishaps at the end -- I guess that's to be expected since it was
training.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q

2014-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
tell poos to pick me up in lakeland and we can drive up


On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 When is the chowdah q?

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 19, 2014, at 7:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Ok- that would be great. But if logistics are a challenge don't worry
  because it all starts out clear   I can just not add milk to some. I
 went
  clam digging last week with my new knee   did fine. So I should be in
 good
  shape for the Q.
  On Aug 19, 2014 8:25 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  wrote:
 
  Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of
  chowder.  More later, as we have work out the logistics.  I’ll be coming
  from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One-of-a-kind air accident

2014-08-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Possibly. There was a girl without arms who flew using her feet and got a
pilots license - with the condition that the aircraft be fitted to meet her
needs. I think she flew an aircoupe (sp?) - no rudder pedals.


On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes 
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  Pilot’s artificial arm detached while landing


 

 I wonder if he could even get a private pilots license in the U.S.?

 Gerry
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