[MBZ] Nice Universal
I'm in lust. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/14/unusually-dry-1966-mercedes-benz-230-w110-universal/ Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Oil leak gone?
I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
You're out of oil? Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Haha. I knew someone would say that Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You're out of oil? Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice Universal
Yup will prob go for 30K Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm in lust. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/14/unusually-dry-1966-mercedes-benz-230-w110-universal/ Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Either the sludge has sealed the leaky part or the Mobile Won has got the seals all swelled up. Swell! --R On 9/15/14 9:22 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Haha. I knew someone would say that Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You're out of oil? Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N
I kinda like the instant rehabilitation that law-abiding citizens can provide to miscreants http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2755943/I-protect-family-Houston-convenience-store-owner-kills-robber-gunfight.html --R On 9/13/14 6:36 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: And records show less than 1/2% of CCW holders have been involved in crimes. And that small percentage was often crimes where a concealed gun was inadvertently carried into a location where they are not allowed. this is In stark contrast to the cries of gun fights over parking spaces and blood running in the streets by those opposed to allowing law abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons. LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice Universal
It’ll be interesting to see what it actually does end up at….. On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, the prices on these things have just become stupid. Like a VW bus/transporter Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yup will prob go for 30K Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm in lust. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/14/unusually-dry-1966-mercedes-benz-230-w110-universal/ Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N
Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I kinda like the instant rehabilitation that law-abiding citizens can provide to miscreants http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2755943/I-protect-family-Houston-convenience-store-owner-kills-robber-gunfight.html Apparently the cops confiscated their gun and they didn't have a spare, or this idjit wouldn't have walked out under his own power: The robber's name has not been released. However, Seth said the man's brother came to the store Saturday morning and threatened to take revenge by murdering the family. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 190D rear suspension
I've complained about the rear suspension my '84 190D off and on since I got it. That said the trip to and from ChowdaQ was so bad I need to finally either do something about it or get rid of the car. The problem: When accelerating from a stop when the car shifts gears the rear end torques to one side, usually the left. When heavily loaded (like going to ChowdaQ with a trunk load of cooking supplies) the rear end feels generally squishy. When I got the car on the road back in early 2010 I bought a full set of rear links from Rusty and had them installed. Shocks are the same age as are subframe bushings. This problem has been around since back then when all this was done, none of the above (rear links, shocks or subframe bushings) has made any difference in the problem. So how do I go about figuring out what needs doing? I'm thinking I should test stuff before I just go replacing. When I did brake pads the other day I did wiggle stuff around and didn't see anything obviously loose or wiggly... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N
No riots yet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I kinda like the instant rehabilitation that law-abiding citizens can provide to miscreants http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2755943/I-protect-family-Houston-convenience-store-owner-kills-robber-gunfight.html Apparently the cops confiscated their gun and they didn't have a spare, or this idjit wouldn't have walked out under his own power: The robber's name has not been released. However, Seth said the man's brother came to the store Saturday morning and threatened to take revenge by murdering the family. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N
Houston -- that won't get far. --R On 9/15/14 11:19 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: No riots yet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I kinda like the instant rehabilitation that law-abiding citizens can provide to miscreants http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2755943/I-protect-family-Houston-convenience-store-owner-kills-robber-gunfight.html Apparently the cops confiscated their gun and they didn't have a spare, or this idjit wouldn't have walked out under his own power: The robber's name has not been released. However, Seth said the man's brother came to the store Saturday morning and threatened to take revenge by murdering the family. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB On 14/09/2014 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Scroll down the comments for some of an old Benz wrapped around a pole. Scary stuff http://jalopnik.com/crash-photos-from-the-beginning-of-motoring-are-stunnin-1634373883 --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
What sort of rear suspension does it have? Struts or coils? Basically, given what you have already done without improving it, I have to think either that the springs are bad or the alignment is out, or both. Any evidence that the vehicle has had damage from an accident in its past? RB On 15/09/2014 10:08 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've complained about the rear suspension my '84 190D off and on since I got it. That said the trip to and from ChowdaQ was so bad I need to finally either do something about it or get rid of the car. The problem: When accelerating from a stop when the car shifts gears the rear end torques to one side, usually the left. When heavily loaded (like going to ChowdaQ with a trunk load of cooking supplies) the rear end feels generally squishy. When I got the car on the road back in early 2010 I bought a full set of rear links from Rusty and had them installed. Shocks are the same age as are subframe bushings. This problem has been around since back then when all this was done, none of the above (rear links, shocks or subframe bushings) has made any difference in the problem. So how do I go about figuring out what needs doing? I'm thinking I should test stuff before I just go replacing. When I did brake pads the other day I did wiggle stuff around and didn't see anything obviously loose or wiggly... -Curt ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
There is some indication of a possible accident but I've been doing some research, the link replacement kit replaces 4 of the 5 links in the rear suspension. The last is the lower control arm which has bushings at both ends. I think whats happening is the rear wheels are allowed to tilt in and out by bad bushings which would explain the torque feeling I'm getting on acceleration. I found this helpful write up: Pelican Mercedes-Benz Tech Article - Replacing Your Rear Lower Control Arm Bushings - Mercedes Benz - 190E, W124, W126, W201, W123 and emailed the Hurst to see what brand bushings I want. They reference a tool to get the old outer out and new one in. Does anybody have the tool or know if its really required? -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension What sort of rear suspension does it have? Struts or coils? Basically, given what you have already done without improving it, I have to think either that the springs are bad or the alignment is out, or both. Any evidence that the vehicle has had damage from an accident in its past? RB On 15/09/2014 10:08 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've complained about the rear suspension my '84 190D off and on since I got it. That said the trip to and from ChowdaQ was so bad I need to finally either do something about it or get rid of the car. The problem: When accelerating from a stop when the car shifts gears the rear end torques to one side, usually the left. When heavily loaded (like going to ChowdaQ with a trunk load of cooking supplies) the rear end feels generally squishy. When I got the car on the road back in early 2010 I bought a full set of rear links from Rusty and had them installed. Shocks are the same age as are subframe bushings. This problem has been around since back then when all this was done, none of the above (rear links, shocks or subframe bushings) has made any difference in the problem. So how do I go about figuring out what needs doing? I'm thinking I should test stuff before I just go replacing. When I did brake pads the other day I did wiggle stuff around and didn't see anything obviously loose or wiggly... -Curt ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle
The most pragmatic approach would be to ride to the bus stop, put the bike on the bus' front rack, ride 5 miles to the bike path, and then ride the 9 miles from there to my office opposite Nationals Park. BTW, I boldly predict that the Nats will win the World Series to the shock and dismay of all baseball pundits, none of whom takes the team seriously. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew could best answer that, but i was thinking he's in the DC area, and if he's going into the office in Foggy Bottom, i don't recall much around there that's not flat. (even places like Capitol Heights and Oxon Hill aren't more than a couple-hunnert feet elevation. you can get closer to 400' out toward Bethesda, but that's on the far end of the commute range he described.) yes, i recall some of the hills in that part of the world can be short and fairly steep, but modern bicycle gearing goes so low that it makes easy work of those; Granny Gears are your friend. Sit and Spin!;-) (disclaimer; my perspective may admittedly be a bit skewed; i can hardly do a recreational ride around here of over an hour or 2 that doesn't involve a couple thousand feet of climbing. i've been doing this for fun since i started on Extended Touring bikes carrying all my camping gear, so i'm pretty comfortable with Granny.) all that said, if someone's got to wear the PA Ave uniform to work, this admittedly might not work in the high temps and humidity that that area is plagued with. i used to deal with a similar situation by driving in once or twice a week to carry office clothes in, so i could ride in the rest of the time in something more cycle-friendly. cheers! e On 12/Sep/14 03:19, John Reames wrote: I don't know whether his commute is flat or not. I have a 9.3 mile commute, which sounds nice and easy, but then you look at a topo map... In mine, the peak elevation is 397ft, the lowest is 59ft. In the first 2-2.5 miles, there is a single rise of 150ft in 0.2 miles distance, followed by a drop of 75ft in 0.1 miles, followed by a rise of 75ft in 0.1 miles. The rest of the morning commute doesn't have any rises over about 55ft, and is basically downhill to the end at 62ft of elevation. A nice relaxed 9.3 mile bike ride. BTW, If driving an electric car is drinking the [green] Kool-Aid (not to be confused with flavoraid of Jonestown fame), then at least the smart ED is proper German [green] Kool-Aid. (And for bonus points, http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehmk45mgef/1-smart-fortwo-electric-drive/ ... For those times when you really want to annoy people with a greener-than-thou attitude.) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net mailto:jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 11, 2014, at 17:01, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: just ride easier. that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less presentable than i usually am,... cheers! e On 11/Sep/14 10:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Nah, I'd get too sweaty. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried about being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto: mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com mailto: astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Bike! --R On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All
Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 2014
When is lobster season in Maine? On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: “LawbtstahQ” Get it right --R On 9/13/14 9:22 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: PS: Dimitri and I are thinking of having a “Q” between our houses in Maine. We’ll call it , and the entire list will be invited. Details to follow. Jon On Sep 13, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: All, I just want to say what a great time I had today meeting with all of the attendees. It’s truly a great group of people. The food was fantastic, (Thanks Kurt and very one else) and I look forward to being there in 2015! Jon Agne ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 2014
You van get lobsters year around….it’s just a matter of how much you are willing to pay. On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When is lobster season in Maine? On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: “LawbtstahQ” Get it right --R On 9/13/14 9:22 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: PS: Dimitri and I are thinking of having a “Q” between our houses in Maine. We’ll call it , and the entire list will be invited. Details to follow. Jon On Sep 13, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: All, I just want to say what a great time I had today meeting with all of the attendees. It’s truly a great group of people. The food was fantastic, (Thanks Kurt and very one else) and I look forward to being there in 2015! Jon Agne ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
Back in 1990, I rear ended a Lexus in my 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan while driving my 11 yo son to school - totally my fault. It bent the frame but we were both unhurt. Total repair cost was $3,700, covered by insurance. Lexus repair to the rear bumper and associated sheet metal amounted to $1500. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB On 14/09/2014 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Scroll down the comments for some of an old Benz wrapped around a pole. Scary stuff http://jalopnik.com/crash-photos-from-the-beginning-of- motoring-are-stunnin-1634373883 --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Binding brakes
My money is on the calibre. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Whatever you do, don't loose you're break petal! --R On 9/14/14 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Feel how hard it is to turn the wheel. Slightly unscrew the hose at the caliper to release pressure. Then see if the wheel turns easier. Easier to use the bleed screw. Only three possibilities I'm aware of: Binding calipers. Deteriorating hoses. Bad release valve in MC. Make sure the brake pedal comes all the way up! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Proving that CL MB sellers aren't the ONLY ones on crack...
ATTABOY! for Hendrik On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Perhaps if someone is looking to create a wreck on their railroad? However this beats it, I think http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=181520747247 Hendrik who should auction off his old receipts instead of throwing them out On 15/09/14 11:04, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/181523868256 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB Somebody here took a E350 work van full of tools in the driver's door of his W124 300D at a claimed 50-60mph without injury other than from shattered glass. IIRC the left side of the dash was messed up too badly to shut the engine off without going under the hood to hit the shutoff lever on the IP. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
All good reasons to go by your dealer and get your Rescue Assist stickers for cars newer than 1990. Just put mine on the S420 yesterday. I feel safer already. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back in 1990, I rear ended a Lexus in my 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan while driving my 11 yo son to school - totally my fault. It bent the frame but we were both unhurt. Total repair cost was $3,700, covered by insurance. Lexus repair to the rear bumper and associated sheet metal amounted to $1500. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB On 14/09/2014 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Scroll down the comments for some of an old Benz wrapped around a pole. Scary stuff http://jalopnik.com/crash-photos-from-the-beginning-of- motoring-are-stunnin-1634373883 --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
I never heard of these stickers. Why wouldn't my 123 diesels qualify for one? On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All good reasons to go by your dealer and get your Rescue Assist stickers for cars newer than 1990. Just put mine on the S420 yesterday. I feel safer already. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back in 1990, I rear ended a Lexus in my 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan while driving my 11 yo son to school - totally my fault. It bent the frame but we were both unhurt. Total repair cost was $3,700, covered by insurance. Lexus repair to the rear bumper and associated sheet metal amounted to $1500. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB On 14/09/2014 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Scroll down the comments for some of an old Benz wrapped around a pole. Scary stuff http://jalopnik.com/crash-photos-from-the-beginning-of- motoring-are-stunnin-1634373883 --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Generator doesn't generate
Yesterday I bought a generator that 'acts like the choke was stuck on and then it dies', then the seller broke the starter rope before I got there so I couldn't even check it for compression. Turned out the rope wasn't broken, just untied, and was a string trimmer rope much thinner and shorter than it should be for an 11hp generator. 5 minutes to restring the starter. Wouldn't spark until I cleaned the soot fouled plug, then started on the 2nd pull and blew soot out of the exhaust. Ran great for 10 seconds after I shut the fuel off. Fortunately I finally came to my senses and checked the air filter before tearing the carb apart. I've never seen a filter so badly clogged, it's difficult to blow through, let alone try to get it to pass 11hp worth of air. Generator runs great without the filter. Makes sparks with a half hearted tug on the rope, starts so easily I might not bother to put the proper rope on it. Again, does anybody know anything about Wacker generators? I'm hoping they're the MBZ of generators, but I'd never heard the name before last weekend. Mitch. Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: The 11hp Wacker/Honda I bought today has a three wire 240v outlet, I have yet to determine whether the ground can be used as a neutral. The seller got it from a storage unit auction 8 years ago, so it must be at least 10 years old, haven't looked for the data plate yet. Does anybody know anything about Wacker generators, other than they're super expensive? Looks like internet price on my Wacker 5.6 is about $2600 plus $200 for the wheel kit. I'm hoping the quality and durability is super high, like Snap-On hand tools or old Mercedes-Benz. Mine looks somewhat beat, but the Honda engine still has excellent compression. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N
The local billionaires are pumping massive amounts of funding into the fight to force excessive background checks and intrusive gun control measures in PNW. The M$ boys really want to be the only ones with private armed forces clay On Sep 13, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: i think it's because poos won't go with kleb and i to sarasota to kill that dog! On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do you think that those in the media have an anti-gun/anti-self defense bias? Naw, that just couldn't be…….. AT On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that when a citizen uses a gun to prevent or stop a crime there is zero press coverage except (sometimes) at the local level (and, interestingly some foreign press). But when a gun is used to commit a crime there is persistent National coverage in the electronic and print media. An intellectually honest person would want to know the degree that our perceptions are being warped by this shadow Ministry of Truth. For example, how many Newtowns were stopped or prevented by armed citizens or armed security personnel? For those that don't know, concealed carry permit/license holders are some of the most law-abiding people in the country. It varies by state, but most states require extensive criminal and psychological background checks to obtain a carry permit/license. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N
For about 70 years there was one program that did pay for itself and provided an income stream to the US Congress. It took the lives of many men and women to build it, but in 1914 it commenced operation and until around 1985 it still produced a stream of dollars. A Democrat gave it away. The Panama Canal Company funded schools, stores, theaters, housing, social service programs, public roads and buildings, as well as administering the canal itself. Not bad by itself, but every year the program also sent hundreds of thousands of dollars back to Congress. That all dried up when Carter gave the canal away. That stupid move cost us a war in Panama, loss of control in this hemisphere, and gave China a very large foothold to upset global balance since 1981 when they took over the largest Free Zone in the world on the Atlantic side, then moved to become the silent operator of the Canal. clay On Sep 13, 2014, at 5:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: A shocking and much overlooked fact. America is a Constitutional Republic [ Pledge of allegiance and the Republic for which it stands] not a democracy. It can be summed up this way; A Democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what is for dinner. [ Majority rules] A Republic is one well armed sheep inviting two wolves to eat all the grass they want for dinner. [Individual responsibility with the right to self defense by any means necessary] As long as this nation functioned as a Republic, it thrived like none other in history. As soon as it was lead to act as a democracy, it started failing, it's citizens stopped taking responsibility, and government took control of citizens God given rights. Classic example.. IRS seized the Mustang Ranch in Nevada.. one of the oldest whore houses in the USA and one of the most successful.. it also sold booze.. Under management by IRS installed agents of the federal government, it went bankrupt.. The government couldn't even turn a profit selling women and whiskey. That about sums up how well every other government agency has functioned. Please name one that has provided good service and turned a profit or produced a product.. I can't ... Your mileage may vary.. Grant... On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that when a citizen uses a gun to prevent or stop a crime there is zero press coverage except (sometimes) at the local level (and, interestingly some foreign press). But when a gun is used to commit a crime there is persistent National coverage in the electronic and print media. An intellectually honest person would want to know the degree that our perceptions are being warped by this shadow Ministry of Truth. For example, how many Newtowns were stopped or prevented by armed citizens or armed security personnel? For those that don't know, concealed carry permit/license holders are some of the most law-abiding people in the country. It varies by state, but most states require extensive criminal and psychological background checks to obtain a carry permit/license. Scott -Original Message- From: Addison Thompson via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:40 PM With all of the statistics and claims made about gun ownership, no one has mentioned the huge number of people SAVED through the defensive use of a gun each year. You'll never read about it in the main stream media but there have been several studies done that indicate numbers between 500,000 and 2,000,000 per year in the US. Here's an excerpt from just one, a CDC study ordered by Obama in Jan 2013: Defensive uses of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a), the study reads. Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). Guns are a tool, a great way to level the playing field that allows the weak and small to defend themselves from the thugs. Remember, the courts have stated numerous times that the police have no duty to protect you. Safe driving, AT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Daimler
The chrysler cars became a whole bunch better than the garbage K cars of the 1980s. It was a boost to Jeep as well. Joining up/being bought by DBAG must have swept the cruft from the machine clay On Sep 14, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: It seems most are of the opinion that when DBAG bought Chrysler, it had a negative effect on MB autos. Do you think the reverse is true? Were Chrysler products improved in the early 2000's because of there association with Daimler? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
Curt, For the lower link (aka spring link) outer bushing, I've seen a write-up for making your own tool, but I wouldn't recommend it. I bought the Sir Tools version of the special tool, about $110 IIRC, it worked fine with one caveat: you must have it lined up perfectly straight, or you will break the tool. This means you may have to bend the brake shield slightly to get a straight shot. The inner bushing is a real pain, took me way too much time to replace that by making my own puller. If you have access to a hydraulic press, go for. If you don't, I'd recommend buying a new spring link, which comes with a new bushing installed. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle
I'm sure there is a metro stop or two near that park, why not use the metro? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Blinding breakes
Yes, selecting the write caliber is key, but site pitcher and trigger squeeze (i.e. hitting your target) matters more. Two to the body, one to the head, leaves 'em dead every time, irregardless of caliper. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 15, 2014 1:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My money is on the calibre. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Whatever you do, don't loose you're break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
Hi Max, Its sounding like I might need to farm the job out. Fred thought the inner could be installed with a C clamp. I have no access to a press, my friend's shop is closing down and with it I lose access to a lot of tools. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension Curt, For the lower link (aka spring link) outer bushing, I've seen a write-up for making your own tool, but I wouldn't recommend it. I bought the Sir Tools version of the special tool, about $110 IIRC, it worked fine with one caveat: you must have it lined up perfectly straight, or you will break the tool. This means you may have to bend the brake shield slightly to get a straight shot. The inner bushing is a real pain, took me way too much time to replace that by making my own puller. If you have access to a hydraulic press, go for. If you don't, I'd recommend buying a new spring link, which comes with a new bushing installed. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Blinding breakes
My vote is for the break peddle --R On 9/15/14 1:55 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Yes, selecting the write caliber is key, but site pitcher and trigger squeeze (i.e. hitting your target) matters more. Two to the body, one to the head, leaves 'em dead every time, irregardless of caliper. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 15, 2014 1:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My money is on the calibre. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Whatever you do, don't loose you're break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Generator doesn't generate
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:21:58 -0400 Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Again, does anybody know anything about Wacker generators? I'm hoping they're the MBZ of generators, but I'd never heard the name before last weekend. Never heard of them before, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Generator doesn't generate
How old is this thing? Wacker is a company that makes concrete finishing and related equipment. They offer brand labeled stuff they don't make themselves from time to time. This I know because Kohler brand labeled portables for them many years ago. The funny part is that these were very specialized machines, producing 120VAC at 180 Hz. They were used to run some sort of vibratory concrete finishers, the things with the big paddles that are used to finish large slabs. Every once in a while we would get a call from someone who had bought one of these, usually at an equipment auction, asking about reconnection. You could use them for anything that wasn't frequency sensitive, but boy, oh boy, don't plug an electric clock into one. Dan running at 70Hz Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yesterday I bought a generator that 'acts like the choke was stuck on and then it dies', then the seller broke the starter rope before I got there so I couldn't even check it for compression. Turned out the rope wasn't broken, just untied, and was a string trimmer rope much thinner and shorter than it should be for an 11hp generator. 5 minutes to restring the starter. Wouldn't spark until I cleaned the soot fouled plug, then started on the 2nd pull and blew soot out of the exhaust. Ran great for 10 seconds after I shut the fuel off. Fortunately I finally came to my senses and checked the air filter before tearing the carb apart. I've never seen a filter so badly clogged, it's difficult to blow through, let alone try to get it to pass 11hp worth of air. Generator runs great without the filter. Makes sparks with a half hearted tug on the rope, starts so easily I might not bother to put the proper rope on it. Again, does anybody know anything about Wacker generators? I'm hoping they're the MBZ of generators, but I'd never heard the name before last weekend. Mitch. Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: The 11hp Wacker/Honda I bought today has a three wire 240v outlet, I have yet to determine whether the ground can be used as a neutral. The seller got it from a storage unit auction 8 years ago, so it must be at least 10 years old, haven't looked for the data plate yet. Does anybody know anything about Wacker generators, other than they're super expensive? Looks like internet price on my Wacker 5.6 is about $2600 plus $200 for the wheel kit. I'm hoping the quality and durability is super high, like Snap-On hand tools or old Mercedes-Benz. Mine looks somewhat beat, but the Honda engine still has excellent compression. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Blinding breakes
Double tap? Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, selecting the write caliber is key, but site pitcher and trigger squeeze (i.e. hitting your target) matters more. Two to the body, one to the head, leaves 'em dead every time, irregardless of caliper. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 15, 2014 1:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My money is on the calibre. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Whatever you do, don't loose you're break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
I forgot to mention I'm having trouble finding a replacement 201 LCA. I wonder how much a shop would charge me to press in the bushing if I showed up with it... -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension Curt, For the lower link (aka spring link) outer bushing, I've seen a write-up for making your own tool, but I wouldn't recommend it. I bought the Sir Tools version of the special tool, about $110 IIRC, it worked fine with one caveat: you must have it lined up perfectly straight, or you will break the tool. This means you may have to bend the brake shield slightly to get a straight shot. The inner bushing is a real pain, took me way too much time to replace that by making my own puller. If you have access to a hydraulic press, go for. If you don't, I'd recommend buying a new spring link, which comes with a new bushing installed. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
You sold the car? On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
My bet is that the gravity field in his drive way has weakened, and if he parks somewhere else, oil will resume leaking. I've observed this phenomena before, a more typical manifestation is a mobile cancellation, which causes the car to get 40+ mpg and a side effect is that the air blows ICE COLD. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 15, 2014 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
On 15/09/2014 12:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB Somebody here took a E350 work van full of tools in the driver's door of his W124 300D at a claimed 50-60mph without injury other than from shattered glass. IIRC the left side of the dash was messed up too badly to shut the engine off without going under the hood to hit the shutoff lever on the IP. Mitch. I suspect it helped that the 300D was not fixed and moved with the van. In the photo of the old crash, you will note that the pole did not appear to move at all. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
You can likely buy a press for a couple of hundred and you will have it for the next time you need one. RB who has 2 presses On 15/09/2014 12:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Hi Max, Its sounding like I might need to farm the job out. Fred thought the inner could be installed with a C clamp. I have no access to a press, my friend's shop is closing down and with it I lose access to a lot of tools. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension Curt, For the lower link (aka spring link) outer bushing, I've seen a write-up for making your own tool, but I wouldn't recommend it. I bought the Sir Tools version of the special tool, about $110 IIRC, it worked fine with one caveat: you must have it lined up perfectly straight, or you will break the tool. This means you may have to bend the brake shield slightly to get a straight shot. The inner bushing is a real pain, took me way too much time to replace that by making my own puller. If you have access to a hydraulic press, go for. If you don't, I'd recommend buying a new spring link, which comes with a new bushing installed. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
1.) Because they're not making them for models produced before 1990 2.) Other than the fuel tank and battery, both of which are in common locations, your W123 has no explosive devices like air bags or squibs for locking the seat belts The idea behind these is to let rescue/extraction folks know where the nasty stuff is in the car so they don't set it off with their Hurst tools. MBUSA has a good video about this on their website. I have to admit it never occurred to me that there's all sorts of nasty stuff buried in newer model cars. In the video a fire rescue guy talks about what it would be like if they were trying to remove you from a wrecked vehicle and they set off a side airbag in the process. Ouch. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I never heard of these stickers. Why wouldn't my 123 diesels qualify for one? On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All good reasons to go by your dealer and get your Rescue Assist stickers for cars newer than 1990. Just put mine on the S420 yesterday. I feel safer already. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back in 1990, I rear ended a Lexus in my 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan while driving my 11 yo son to school - totally my fault. It bent the frame but we were both unhurt. Total repair cost was $3,700, covered by insurance. Lexus repair to the rear bumper and associated sheet metal amounted to $1500. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB On 14/09/2014 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Scroll down the comments for some of an old Benz wrapped around a pole. Scary stuff http://jalopnik.com/crash-photos-from-the-beginning-of- motoring-are-stunnin-1634373883 --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
The width (or lack thereof) of the pole ought to play into it also no? -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics On 15/09/2014 12:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB Somebody here took a E350 work van full of tools in the driver's door of his W124 300D at a claimed 50-60mph without injury other than from shattered glass. IIRC the left side of the dash was messed up too badly to shut the engine off without going under the hood to hit the shutoff lever on the IP. Mitch. I suspect it helped that the 300D was not fixed and moved with the van. In the photo of the old crash, you will note that the pole did not appear to move at all. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle
I drive every day to the Red Line, then take two subways to work. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm sure there is a metro stop or two near that park, why not use the metro? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
I am not an engineer, but that makes sense to me too. RB On 15/09/2014 1:30 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The width (or lack thereof) of the pole ought to play into it also no? -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics On 15/09/2014 12:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB Somebody here took a E350 work van full of tools in the driver's door of his W124 300D at a claimed 50-60mph without injury other than from shattered glass. IIRC the left side of the dash was messed up too badly to shut the engine off without going under the hood to hit the shutoff lever on the IP. Mitch. I suspect it helped that the 300D was not fixed and moved with the van. In the photo of the old crash, you will note that the pole did not appear to move at all. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle
I should think that would give you ample time to consider a move to a quiet rural area. Can't you get a job transfer to some small office in Oklahoma? RB On 15/09/2014 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I drive every day to the Red Line, then take two subways to work. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm sure there is a metro stop or two near that park, why not use the metro? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
I'm not driving a freakin' Delorean!! I do like gullwings though:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
No I'm not living on the moon! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My bet is that the gravity field in his drive way has weakened, and if he parks somewhere else, oil will resume leaking. I've observed this phenomena before, a more typical manifestation is a mobile cancellation, which causes the car to get 40+ mpg and a side effect is that the air blows ICE COLD. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 15, 2014 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
The last time you ordered a glow plug relay they shipped a flex capacitor instead. But really, can a 240d even get up to 88mph? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 2:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not driving a freakin' Delorean!! I do like gullwings though:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
Years ago a kid ran his car across my parent's yard totaling both their cars, this was after skating between a telephone pole and guy wire. If he'd hit the pole or wire very bad things would have happened. The police estimated his speed when he left the road at 70mph. Surprisingly he survived with nary a scratch. -Curt From: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: RE: [MBZ] Old crash pics Alles. The support cable behind the pole would have cut like a knife. Hope that there was no-one in the back seat! Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:30:28 -0700 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics From: mercedes@okiebenz.com The width (or lack thereof) of the pole ought to play into it also no? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Nope, max speed under its own power is 86.5mph. I was telling the story at ChowdaQ how when I used to commute in a 240D I would get on 495 west of Boston, put my right foot to the floor and keep it there until I got to my exit. It'd hit 86.5 on the downhills and since the hills up were only slight I'd only lose down to maybe 80. Never had any problems with carbon in that engine. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone? The last time you ordered a glow plug relay they shipped a flex capacitor instead. But really, can a 240d even get up to 88mph? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 2:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not driving a freakin' Delorean!! I do like gullwings though:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
No. No time warps, no driveways on the moon!!! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The last time you ordered a glow plug relay they shipped a flex capacitor instead. But really, can a 240d even get up to 88mph? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 2:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not driving a freakin' Delorean!! I do like gullwings though:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Then say a prayer of thanks, it is not our place to question the M1 gods... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 15, 2014 3:41 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No. No time warps, no driveways on the moon!!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Generator doesn't generate
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:29:04 -0400 Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: This is the model I have: http://www.spycor.com/G_5_6A_Portable_Generator_Central_GFI_p/gp5600a.htm The specs say, Maximum output 5,600 W Continuous output 5,350 kVA Continuous AC amps 44.6/22.3 A Voltage A.C.120/240 V Frequency 60 Hz Operating speed 3,600 RPM AC outlet receptacles 2-125V, 20 A Duplex GFI; 1-125V, 30 A Twist Lock; 1-250V, 20 A Twist Lock Other than the 3600 RPM noise/wear level, it sounds like a good one. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:28:33 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope, max speed under its own power is 86.5mph. I was telling the story at ChowdaQ how when I used to commute in a 240D I would get on 495 west of Boston, put my right foot to the floor and keep it there until I got to my exit. It'd hit 86.5 on the downhills and since the hills up were only slight I'd only lose down to maybe 80. Never had any problems with carbon in that engine. Indeed, an Italian Tune-Up twice every work day! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
On 15/09/2014 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Nope, max speed under its own power is 86.5mph. I was telling the story at ChowdaQ how when I used to commute in a 240D I would get on 495 west of Boston, put my right foot to the floor and keep it there until I got to my exit. It'd hit 86.5 on the downhills and since the hills up were only slight I'd only lose down to maybe 80. Never had any problems with carbon in that engine. -Curt So, does that say something about low powered diesel engines, or Mercedes quality or a combination of those things, or ??? What other automotive engine would survive any length of time if one drove it flat out constantly? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
It says that Mercedes engines have a governor so you can run them flat out without destroying them. There used to be a kid across the street with an RX7 that thought he could fix things by sitting in the street and revving the engine. I always thought it would be fun to challenge him to start the car and hold his foot to the floor as long as he dared, his RX7 against my 240D... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone? On 15/09/2014 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Nope, max speed under its own power is 86.5mph. I was telling the story at ChowdaQ how when I used to commute in a 240D I would get on 495 west of Boston, put my right foot to the floor and keep it there until I got to my exit. It'd hit 86.5 on the downhills and since the hills up were only slight I'd only lose down to maybe 80. Never had any problems with carbon in that engine. -Curt So, does that say something about low powered diesel engines, or Mercedes quality or a combination of those things, or ??? What other automotive engine would survive any length of time if one drove it flat out constantly? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
When I was a kid the guy across the street always had IH Scouts as he worked at the IH truck plant in town and I guess he got some break on them. In the winter, even when it was like -20F he would go out in the morning and start the thing, then floor it immediately, and stick his window scraper on the pedal to hold it down while he went in for his coffee and it warmed up. My dad would always be amazed the things did not blow up from the abuse. --R On 9/15/14 4:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: There used to be a kid across the street with an RX7 that thought he could fix things by sitting in the street and revving the engine. I always thought it would be fun to challenge him to start the car and hold his foot to the floor as long as he dared, his RX7 against my 240D... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Binding brakes
So are they .22, .25, .32, .50? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Binding brakes My money is on the calibre. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Whatever you do, don't loose you're break petal! --R On 9/14/14 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Feel how hard it is to turn the wheel. Slightly unscrew the hose at the caliper to release pressure. Then see if the wheel turns easier. Easier to use the bleed screw. Only three possibilities I'm aware of: Binding calipers. Deteriorating hoses. Bad release valve in MC. Make sure the brake pedal comes all the way up! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Maybe they gave him vehicles to test and he tested them hard? RB On 15/09/2014 3:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: When I was a kid the guy across the street always had IH Scouts as he worked at the IH truck plant in town and I guess he got some break on them. In the winter, even when it was like -20F he would go out in the morning and start the thing, then floor it immediately, and stick his window scraper on the pedal to hold it down while he went in for his coffee and it warmed up. My dad would always be amazed the things did not blow up from the abuse. --R On 9/15/14 4:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: There used to be a kid across the street with an RX7 that thought he could fix things by sitting in the street and revving the engine. I always thought it would be fun to challenge him to start the car and hold his foot to the floor as long as he dared, his RX7 against my 240D... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Gross generalization is the enemy of accuracy. The original Scout had an I4 of a displacement I can't remember (152?). Later models got a larger I4 (194?), then the 288 V8, 304 V8 and 345 V8. Also not to be forgotten was the Nissan 3 liter I6 diesel. All of them were slow turning as was the practice in tractor engines... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone? On 15/09/2014 3:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: When I was a kid the guy across the street always had IH Scouts as he worked at the IH truck plant in town and I guess he got some break on them. In the winter, even when it was like -20F he would go out in the morning and start the thing, then floor it immediately, and stick his window scraper on the pedal to hold it down while he went in for his coffee and it warmed up. My dad would always be amazed the things did not blow up from the abuse. --R Have you ever seen how big the engine is in one of those things? Only 345 cubes if I recall but a huge beast of an engine. My father had one in a 5 ton truck. I also knew a fellow who had a Travelall - the IH version of a Suburban. It was sort of funny because he had hot rod Plymouth cars before he got married and as soon as they had children, he swapped for the Travelall. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
This would have been in the late 60s when I was but a sprout. Now that I think about it, the engine did sound like it belonged in a tractor. It was loud! --R On 9/15/14 5:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Gross generalization is the enemy of accuracy. The original Scout had an I4 of a displacement I can't remember (152?). Later models got a larger I4 (194?), then the 288 V8, 304 V8 and 345 V8. Also not to be forgotten was the Nissan 3 liter I6 diesel. All of them were slow turning as was the practice in tractor engines... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone? On 15/09/2014 3:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: When I was a kid the guy across the street always had IH Scouts as he worked at the IH truck plant in town and I guess he got some break on them. In the winter, even when it was like -20F he would go out in the morning and start the thing, then floor it immediately, and stick his window scraper on the pedal to hold it down while he went in for his coffee and it warmed up. My dad would always be amazed the things did not blow up from the abuse. --R Have you ever seen how big the engine is in one of those things? Only 345 cubes if I recall but a huge beast of an engine. My father had one in a 5 ton truck. I also knew a fellow who had a Travelall - the IH version of a Suburban. It was sort of funny because he had hot rod Plymouth cars before he got married and as soon as they had children, he swapped for the Travelall. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
I don't think I have ever seen one that did not have the 345 cid engine. RB On 15/09/2014 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Gross generalization is the enemy of accuracy. The original Scout had an I4 of a displacement I can't remember (152?). Later models got a larger I4 (194?), then the 288 V8, 304 V8 and 345 V8. Also not to be forgotten was the Nissan 3 liter I6 diesel. All of them were slow turning as was the practice in tractor engines... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone? On 15/09/2014 3:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: When I was a kid the guy across the street always had IH Scouts as he worked at the IH truck plant in town and I guess he got some break on them. In the winter, even when it was like -20F he would go out in the morning and start the thing, then floor it immediately, and stick his window scraper on the pedal to hold it down while he went in for his coffee and it warmed up. My dad would always be amazed the things did not blow up from the abuse. --R Have you ever seen how big the engine is in one of those things? Only 345 cubes if I recall but a huge beast of an engine. My father had one in a 5 ton truck. I also knew a fellow who had a Travelall - the IH version of a Suburban. It was sort of funny because he had hot rod Plymouth cars before he got married and as soon as they had children, he swapped for the Travelall. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
I would guess that the superior cleaning action plus seal additives in the M1 did their job. -Original Message- From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:00 AM I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Shotgun
Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Oh geez. If it's like here you should be able to sell it to whoever you want. If you are a poos maybe you should take it to a gun shop and see if they want to buy it. You may get only half value or less that way but you won't have to deal with it since it sounds like you know nothing about guns. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
there really aren't any for you as a private seller the gun range will often sell it as a consignment for you if you liek that more On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
Yup. I get tempted every time Harbor Freight has the 20 ton press on sale for $150. But then I think I'm getting too old for that sort of thing. I've been procrastinating renewing suspension rubber on the 300SD for years but I don't seem to be getting younger. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell via Mercedes Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:31 PM To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension You can likely buy a press for a couple of hundred and you will have it for the next time you need one. RB who has 2 presses ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
What state do you reside in? You need to know the state laws and a good place to find that information is your local gun store. The owner will be a FFL license holder and should be well versed on private exchanges of ownership , thus a good resource to draw from. You will want to find an actual gun shop, not the gun counter at your local WalMart, I believe. In the alternative, this author is a personal friend of mine and has devoted the past 30 years to writing books about gun laws and other such issues. You may find his work useful. http://www.gunlaws.com/ That link should get you started on the road to success. HTH, [Hope This Helps] Grant... On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
I guess the question is, where would you sell something like this? I assume the online resources like Craigslist don't allow gun sales, although I did see some antique guns there. I'm sure this isn't an antique. The other question I had was how to establish value? I suspect there are online resources for that as well, but are some better/more reputable than others? Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: there really aren't any for you as a private seller the gun range will often sell it as a consignment for you if you liek that more On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? When you know what it is and what condition it's in, you search Gunbroker.com and see what they're selling for. In Indiana or Florida you advertise it and sell it. In police states like Michigan it would have been more complicated if it were a handgun. In police states like NJ, NY or IL selling even a shotgun is not a totally trivial matter. Quite often guys will meet in a busy McDonald's parking lot if they don't like strangers in their home. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Dan wrote: I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Start in Lakeland. There's a guy there that knows these things and sells parts. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: In Indiana or Florida you advertise it and sell it. I should have added face to face, not to a minor, and don't mail it out of state unless you're mailing it to a federally licensed dealer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Thanks, Grant. FWIW I live in Florida. There are a number of gun stores in the immediate area. Once I have it in my possession and can identify it I'll drop into one and ask. Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:16 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: What state do you reside in? You need to know the state laws and a good place to find that information is your local gun store. The owner will be a FFL license holder and should be well versed on private exchanges of ownership , thus a good resource to draw from. You will want to find an actual gun shop, not the gun counter at your local WalMart, I believe. In the alternative, this author is a personal friend of mine and has devoted the past 30 years to writing books about gun laws and other such issues. You may find his work useful. http://www.gunlaws.com/ That link should get you started on the road to success. HTH, [Hope This Helps] Grant... On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
But he's not in Lakeland Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Start in Lakeland. There's a guy there that knows these things and sells parts. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Yeah, I got that from looking at your gun broker/auction site. Thanks! Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: In Indiana or Florida you advertise it and sell it. I should have added face to face, not to a minor, and don't mail it out of state unless you're mailing it to a federally licensed dealer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Thanks, Grant. FWIW I live in Florida. There are a number of gun stores in the immediate area. Once I have it in my possession and can identify it I'll drop into one and ask. Sometimes if you really don't want to mess with it it can be worth taking 20-25% off the top to pick the dealer with the most impressive used gun rack and have him sell it for you on consignment. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N
This is another example where the US national media ignores gun stops crime events and the only coverage is in very local or foreign media. The Daily Mail seems cover these often. The national gun magazines typically include dozens of examples in an Armed Citizen section of each issue. Here's local coverage of one recent event I recall which is only a few miles up the road from me: http://www.wral.com/homeowner-shoots-intruder-in-vance-county-break-in/13638 825/. The only unusual part of this story is the homeowner used a carbine instead of a shotgun or handgun. If you google jonathan haith shooting, you won't find any (so-called) mainstream press coverage except two local TV stations. Scott -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:45 AM I kinda like the instant rehabilitation that law-abiding citizens can provide to miscreants http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2755943/I-protect-family-Houston- convenience-store-owner-kills-robber-gunfight.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Can't sell guns on Craigslist but there are plenty of gun groups on Facebook you could join to sell it. As far as value depends on what it is. Ifs it run of the mill probably less than $200. If it's something special maybe more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess the question is, where would you sell something like this? I assume the online resources like Craigslist don't allow gun sales, although I did see some antique guns there. I'm sure this isn't an antique. The other question I had was how to establish value? I suspect there are online resources for that as well, but are some better/more reputable than others? Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: there really aren't any for you as a private seller the gun range will often sell it as a consignment for you if you liek that more On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
He hasn't responded to my request for parts yet though. Perhaps I'm in his spam filter. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Dan wrote: I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Start in Lakeland. There's a guy there that knows these things and sells parts. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
You're not being singled out. I asked him a month ago to give me a list of all the rear suspension links for my 95 S500 coupe so I could get ready to order everything for a major back end rebuild. Still waiting Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He hasn't responded to my request for parts yet though. Perhaps I'm in his spam filter. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Dan wrote: I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Start in Lakeland. There's a guy there that knows these things and sells parts. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
My father in law was not a gun enthusiast, so I really doubt it's anything of real value. Probably something he won while sports betting at the factory where he worked. Damned guy was lucky. Seemed no matter what he played he always won. Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Can't sell guns on Craigslist but there are plenty of gun groups on Facebook you could join to sell it. As far as value depends on what it is. Ifs it run of the mill probably less than $200. If it's something special maybe more. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
Good for him that he was prepared! Too many aren't prepared and become a victim. AT From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N Date: September 15, 2014 4:37:24 PM PDT To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com This is another example where the US national media ignores gun stops crime events and the only coverage is in very local or foreign media. The Daily Mail seems cover these often. The national gun magazines typically include dozens of examples in an Armed Citizen section of each issue. Here's local coverage of one recent event I recall which is only a few miles up the road from me: http://www.wral.com/homeowner-shoots-intruder-in-vance-county-break-in/13638 825/. The only unusual part of this story is the homeowner used a carbine instead of a shotgun or handgun. If you google jonathan haith shooting, you won't find any (so-called) mainstream press coverage except two local TV stations. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
Replace the subframe mounts - there are four, fronts are different than rears. This will cure most of the strange behavior, if not all. Check the condition of the tie rods, too, just in case. I'm planning on doing this job on the 300D, same issue. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
I was hit by a Chevy 3500 series van driven by a heating and air guy a few years back -- he was running about 60 and ran a stop light. I still have pics somewhere, but the front edge driver's door was pushed in about 18. Quite the ride, I really don't recommend crash testing your car. It's fairly difficult to get killed in a Benz. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
Oh, and the keyswitch worked to shut off the engine when someone found a long pair of needlenosed pliers to turn it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
Already been done, made no difference. I got down under the car today and had a look, the outer bearing is impossible to see but the inner bushing looks awful. Based on everything I've read I'm going to call my Indy tomorrow and see if he's got time. I've got other stuff that needs doing and little enough time as it is. -Curt From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension Replace the subframe mounts - there are four, fronts are different than rears. This will cure most of the strange behavior, if not all. Check the condition of the tie rods, too, just in case. I'm planning on doing this job on the 300D, same issue. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N
Carbine? No no no, he used an ASSAULT RIFLE!!! If your local media had correctly identified the AR-15 as an ASSAULT RIFLE, Al Sharpton and CNN and all the rest could have breathlessly reported and agitated and stirred up the righteous we know better than you crowd, and distracted us all from the ballooning federal debt and the miserable economy and the creeping inflation of our fiat currency... Just think of the blue-state fund-raising opportunities that were missed! Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 15, 2014 7:37 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is another example where the US national media ignores gun stops crime events and the only coverage is in very local or foreign media. The Daily Mail seems cover these often. The national gun magazines typically include dozens of examples in an Armed Citizen section of each issue. Here's local coverage of one recent event I recall which is only a few miles up the road from me: http://www.wral.com/homeowner-shoots-intruder-in-vance-county-break-in/13638 825/. The only unusual part of this story is the homeowner used a carbine instead of a shotgun or handgun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D rear suspension
Guess I'll have to do that too -- mine is getting close to undrivable and the station wagon has both front springs with chunks missing off the ends, and until I get them replace I won't drive it. Probably need ball joints up front, too, and I suspect a steering coupler. All the usual things at 400k miles and 27 years! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: A little wiring
My Cub Cadet tractor was getting slow to start last winter requiring a shot of ether most every time I plowed snow with it. I thought the problem was slow cranking so I measured the voltage drop at the starter/generator, 4v! It didn't get any better just cleaning connections so I dug deeper. Both battery cables were 10ga which I'd consider slightly undersized. They're probably fine, its only a 7hp 1cyl engine after all but I figure overkill is just good enough. The wire from the battery to the switch (a simple push button, no relay) had a splice which took it from 10ga to 12ga. The splice was really ratty looking too. I replaced it with some 8ga wire Fred had given me for my 240D (MB content). I also made up a new ground cable. I wanted to run a new wire from the switch to the starter/generator too but ran out of ring terminals. Drop at the starter/generator is now less than 1v, much better! Tractor starts much more easily now with proper power to the starter. Not a bad lunch break. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: A little wiring
Sounds like years ago when I worked in a rental and fabrication shop. We had loads of welding cable that went out for rent, and often came back in a condition that required us to cut off the camloc connectors and make up new ends. This gave us some nice scrap pieces that were perfect for battery cables We also had both large copper crimp and solder lugs as well. I put a set of these wires on a VW I had and the starter spun so fast you barely hit the key and the engine was running. Best example of voltage drop I ever saw. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My Cub Cadet tractor was getting slow to start last winter requiring a shot of ether most every time I plowed snow with it. I thought the problem was slow cranking so I measured the voltage drop at the starter/generator, 4v! It didn't get any better just cleaning connections so I dug deeper. Both battery cables were 10ga which I'd consider slightly undersized. They're probably fine, its only a 7hp 1cyl engine after all but I figure overkill is just good enough. The wire from the battery to the switch (a simple push button, no relay) had a splice which took it from 10ga to 12ga. The splice was really ratty looking too. I replaced it with some 8ga wire Fred had given me for my 240D (MB content). I also made up a new ground cable. I wanted to run a new wire from the switch to the starter/generator too but ran out of ring terminals. Drop at the starter/generator is now less than 1v, much better! Tractor starts much more easily now with proper power to the starter. Not a bad lunch break. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: A little wiring
Marshall and I had an argument back when I was trying to commute with an '83 240D at -20F. I wanted to install 00 ga battery cables which he insisted were an absolute waste of time. I was trying to get every possible advantage, which is why I was using 0w40 oil... In retrospect the battery cables on a 240D aren't really all that long. I was basing my idea on the cables on my '52 Farmall which is 6v and has 000 cables but the lead to the starter is 3 feet long and 6v can't tolerate much voltage drop. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A little wiring Sounds like years ago when I worked in a rental and fabrication shop. We had loads of welding cable that went out for rent, and often came back in a condition that required us to cut off the camloc connectors and make up new ends. This gave us some nice scrap pieces that were perfect for battery cables We also had both large copper crimp and solder lugs as well. I put a set of these wires on a VW I had and the starter spun so fast you barely hit the key and the engine was running. Best example of voltage drop I ever saw. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My Cub Cadet tractor was getting slow to start last winter requiring a shot of ether most every time I plowed snow with it. I thought the problem was slow cranking so I measured the voltage drop at the starter/generator, 4v! It didn't get any better just cleaning connections so I dug deeper. Both battery cables were 10ga which I'd consider slightly undersized. They're probably fine, its only a 7hp 1cyl engine after all but I figure overkill is just good enough. The wire from the battery to the switch (a simple push button, no relay) had a splice which took it from 10ga to 12ga. The splice was really ratty looking too. I replaced it with some 8ga wire Fred had given me for my 240D (MB content). I also made up a new ground cable. I wanted to run a new wire from the switch to the starter/generator too but ran out of ring terminals. Drop at the starter/generator is now less than 1v, much better! Tractor starts much more easily now with proper power to the starter. Not a bad lunch break. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: A little wiring
And another ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: A little wiring My Cub Cadet tractor was getting slow to start last winter requiring a shot of ether most every time I plowed snow with it. I thought the problem was slow cranking so I measured the voltage drop at the starter/generator, 4v! It didn't get any better just cleaning connections so I dug deeper. Both battery cables were 10ga which I'd consider slightly undersized. They're probably fine, its only a 7hp 1cyl engine after all but I figure overkill is just good enough. The wire from the battery to the switch (a simple push button, no relay) had a splice which took it from 10ga to 12ga. The splice was really ratty looking too. I replaced it with some 8ga wire Fred had given me for my 240D (MB content). I also made up a new ground cable. I wanted to run a new wire from the switch to the starter/generator too but ran out of ring terminals. Drop at the starter/generator is now less than 1v, much better! Tractor starts much more easily now with proper power to the starter. Not a bad lunch break. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Dan, Let me know off list what it is and I'll try to assist you in disposing of it via legal venue. As it happens, I have some expertise available in the field. Grant... On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My father in law was not a gun enthusiast, so I really doubt it's anything of real value. Probably something he won while sports betting at the factory where he worked. Damned guy was lucky. Seemed no matter what he played he always won. Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Can't sell guns on Craigslist but there are plenty of gun groups on Facebook you could join to sell it. As far as value depends on what it is. Ifs it run of the mill probably less than $200. If it's something special maybe more. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shotgun
Ahhmnh. have nothing to contribute to this discussion but for the first time in many months a message I posted to the list actually showed up in my MBZ folder, did someone somewhere push some buttons? Perhaps it was a once of fluke? Hendrik who battled the evil telcos today and thinks he won On 16/09/14 12:40, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Dan, Let me know off list what it is and I'll try to assist you in disposing of it via legal venue. As it happens, I have some expertise available in the field. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Subject: Re: N assault
Excellent point Hendrik, calling them defense rifles [American spelling] rather than assault weapons. The term assault rifle is one manufactured by the largely anti-self defense crowd to do exactly what you speak to, stir up emotion, and draw attention away from the useful effect of being able to defend ones self. That was used to full effect in Australia to the point where personal ownership of the means to defend yourself has been removed. To us Yanks, the Land Down Under is now the land of the unarmed victim but then.. we've always been a scruffy lot.. albeit well armed.. I belong to a group here that meets about 2 times a year... Just for you.. a video of a meet last spring... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8I5ADd4Mk It takes a bit to load because it's a long video.. Thought you might enjoy watching .. Big boys... bit toys... Grant... On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And why are you stirring up emotions about this? This list has argued the point many times about weapon classification and usually it ends up in a somewhat heated debate. The article http://www.wral.com/homeowner-shoots-intruder-in-vance- county-break-in/13638825/ states a AR-15 rifle was used, which would suggest a full size weapon. It may well have been a carbine version but we don't know that for sure. Hendrik who owns no weapons be they for assault or defence, hmmnh perhaps in this case they could have called it a defence rifle, perhaps retreat rifle On 16/09/14 10:48, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Carbine? No no no, he used an ASSAULT RIFLE!!! If your local media had correctly identified the AR-15 as an ASSAULT RIFLE, Al Sharpton and CNN and all the rest could have breathlessly reported and agitated and stirred up the righteous we know better than you crowd, and distracted us all from the ballooning federal debt and the miserable economy and the creeping inflation of our fiat currency... Just think of the blue-state fund-raising opportunities that were missed! Max Dillon, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
