[MBZ] Buh-bye, 300E
The 92 300E 2.6 that Tony so willingly sold to my oldest son has moved along. After getting close to 220k, peeling clear coat, tired paint, mysterious oil leak and ever weeping water pump, eldest son finally took the initiative and sold it to his first potential buyer last night for $700. Not a bad deal for him, as he paid $1000 for it almost exactly three years ago. He now moves to the 98 S420, for which I sold it to him for - you guessed it - $700! He's pumped, especially because the S420 fits him much better at 6'6 or more. And it's a nicer car, too Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Buh-bye, 300E
Does the mechanic come along with the $700? --R On 12/9/14 8:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The 92 300E 2.6 that Tony so willingly sold to my oldest son has moved along. After getting close to 220k, peeling clear coat, tired paint, mysterious oil leak and ever weeping water pump, eldest son finally took the initiative and sold it to his first potential buyer last night for $700. Not a bad deal for him, as he paid $1000 for it almost exactly three years ago. He now moves to the 98 S420, for which I sold it to him for - you guessed it - $700! He's pumped, especially because the S420 fits him much better at 6'6 or more. And it's a nicer car, too Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Buh-bye, 300E
No, but direct supervision and advanced troubleshooting skills are provided at no cost. In other words, when there's a problem, he gets to go through the diagnostic steps with supervision. That way he learns how to do it and I get to keep my hands clean. I realize that as my kids get older and have more funds available they will move up to newer cars that require far less maintenance. At least for now I can help them learn diagnostic skills that they can (hopefully) apply later in life. Not to mention they have a much higher appreciation for the car when they're the one who has to fix and maintain stuff. In fact, I have to occasionally reign in the oldest boy or he would have the thing in pieces on the garage floor. A good thing, sort of, but not when it's his daily driver. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does the mechanic come along with the $700? --R On 12/9/14 8:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The 92 300E 2.6 that Tony so willingly sold to my oldest son has moved along. After getting close to 220k, peeling clear coat, tired paint, mysterious oil leak and ever weeping water pump, eldest son finally took the initiative and sold it to his first potential buyer last night for $700. Not a bad deal for him, as he paid $1000 for it almost exactly three years ago. He now moves to the 98 S420, for which I sold it to him for - you guessed it - $700! He's pumped, especially because the S420 fits him much better at 6'6 or more. And it's a nicer car, too Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Buh-bye, 300E
Would you like to adopt a slightly older foster son? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No, but direct supervision and advanced troubleshooting skills are provided at no cost. In other words, when there's a problem, he gets to go through the diagnostic steps with supervision. That way he learns how to do it and I get to keep my hands clean. I realize that as my kids get older and have more funds available they will move up to newer cars that require far less maintenance. At least for now I can help them learn diagnostic skills that they can (hopefully) apply later in life. Not to mention they have a much higher appreciation for the car when they're the one who has to fix and maintain stuff. In fact, I have to occasionally reign in the oldest boy or he would have the thing in pieces on the garage floor. A good thing, sort of, but not when it's his daily driver. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does the mechanic come along with the $700? --R On 12/9/14 8:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The 92 300E 2.6 that Tony so willingly sold to my oldest son has moved along. After getting close to 220k, peeling clear coat, tired paint, mysterious oil leak and ever weeping water pump, eldest son finally took the initiative and sold it to his first potential buyer last night for $700. Not a bad deal for him, as he paid $1000 for it almost exactly three years ago. He now moves to the 98 S420, for which I sold it to him for - you guessed it - $700! He's pumped, especially because the S420 fits him much better at 6'6 or more. And it's a nicer car, too Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Way OT: Calculating NPV
Does anyone know the formula for calculating net present value, using an HP 12C calculator (dowloaded for free as an Android app)? A friend of mine is trying to put a cash value on his FERS pension. Andrew 1983 300TD still leaks after roof drains cleared and new front s/r seal 1985 3000TD Newer model, in the garage ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Calculating NPV
As always, google is your friend. And your friend's friend. https://www.google.com/search?q=net+present+value%2C+using+an+HP+12C+calculatorie=utf-8oe=utf-8 --R On 12/9/14 10:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: net present value, using an HP 12C calculator ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Calculating NPV
The instructions are not specific enough. I need someone to walk me through the steps, using the inputs that I provide. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: As always, google is your friend. And your friend's friend. https://www.google.com/search?q=net+present+value%2C+using+ an+HP+12C+calculatorie=utf-8oe=utf-8 --R On 12/9/14 10:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: net present value, using an HP 12C calculator ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] As I was saying earlier - is this one of yours Wilton
Supposedly, a B52 bomb pattern crater in a field in Laos RB http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/B52bombpatterncraterinLaos_zpsf3ec479a.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Calculating NPV
Is this a variant of the standard 5-tuple: present-value, interest rate, period, payment, future value? On those you just punch in the four you know, hitting the marked key after each, then push the last key (of the five) and it'll give it to you. Signs are used to aim the algorithm in the right direction. (Payment vs income, etc.) A little experimentation ought to give him the right value. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] As I was saying earlier - is this one of yours Wilton
Possibly; easier to lay it on a B-52, though, if a row of 'em is viewed from above. The usual load for a B-52D in that area and time was 108 500-pounders released in a string or train, usually leaving a row of 108 craters. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:24 AM Subject: [MBZ] As I was saying earlier - is this one of yours Wilton Supposedly, a B52 bomb pattern crater in a field in Laos RB http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/B52bombpatterncraterinLaos_zpsf3ec479a.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - Diesel prices
Diesel has finally started to fall like gas has - I saw from $2.99.9 to $3.49.9 this morning. un-contaminated regular grade gas is $2.39.9, while the drunken stuff is $2.19.9 or so. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fog Light Problem
Hi Gang -- A while back I wrote about a problem I had where both fog lights stopped working. i tested the bulbs and that worked great with 12V -- I changed the light switch with a new one I didn't know I had and Presto! I now have Fog Lights to help spot the deer along the side of the road. ;-) LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fog Light Problem
Hi Gang -- A while back I wrote about a problem I had where both fog lights stopped working. i tested the bulbs and that worked great with 12V -- I changed the light switch with a new one I didn't know I had and Presto! I now have Fog Lights to help spot the deer along the side of the road. ;-) LarryT 91 300D them switches (and klima) never go bad! RGHT! I think i have only seen a light switch on am MB fail one other time, in a '62. Ign switch gave up in the one 240D. The DO fail too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices
Diesel has finally started to fall like gas has - I saw from $2.99.9 to $3.49.9 this morning. un-contaminated regular grade gas is $2.39.9, while the drunken stuff is $2.19.9 or so. $3.41 to 3.69 here. Unfortunately the highest price is at the one i trust the most for good winter fuel. Benzin is $2.45 mostly. Still a buck less than diesel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Time Capsule
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-600SL-1-935-ACTUAL-MILES-1993-mercedes-600-sl-v-12-1-935-actual-miles-like-/161512642458?forcerrptr=truehash=item259ae7579aitem=161512642458pt=US_Cars_Trucks Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-600SL-1-935-ACTUAL-MILES-1993-mercedes-600-sl-v-12-1-935-actual-miles-like-/161512642458?forcerrptr=truehash=item259ae7579aitem=161512642458pt=US_Cars_Trucks You NEED that Dan! The perfect car to Martha-ize! Besides in a couple years you can sell that to your son to replace the S class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices
Where do you live - San Fran?? Around here it's as low as $3.19 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Diesel has finally started to fall like gas has - I saw from $2.99.9 to $3.49.9 this morning. un-contaminated regular grade gas is $2.39.9, while the drunken stuff is $2.19.9 or so. $3.41 to 3.69 here. Unfortunately the highest price is at the one i trust the most for good winter fuel. Benzin is $2.45 mostly. Still a buck less than diesel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
I gotta say, that car has zero styling points. The shape and contours of the body are completely unlovable. I don't care if it has zero miles - I'm not interested at any price. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series- 600SL-1-935-ACTUAL-MILES-1993-mercedes-600-sl-v-12-1-935- actual-miles-like-/161512642458?forcerrptr=truehash=item259ae7579aitem= 161512642458pt=US_Cars_Trucks You NEED that Dan! The perfect car to Martha-ize! Besides in a couple years you can sell that to your son to replace the S class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
Nope. I like the 97 and later models. Fewer problems and better electronics, IMHO. Nothing to Martha-ize on that car. I'm driving mine once again since the S420 is no longer mine. Dang, I miss driving a W140! Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-600SL-1-935-ACTUAL-MILES-1993-mercedes-600-sl-v-12-1-935-actual-miles-like-/161512642458?forcerrptr=truehash=item259ae7579aitem=161512642458pt=US_Cars_Trucks You NEED that Dan! The perfect car to Martha-ize! Besides in a couple years you can sell that to your son to replace the S class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
Dan, I have no doubt they are better cars. It's just that they are so b*tt ugly I could cry. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope. I like the 97 and later models. Fewer problems and better electronics, IMHO. Nothing to Martha-ize on that car. I'm driving mine once again since the S420 is no longer mine. Dang, I miss driving a W140! Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-600SL-1-935-ACTUAL-MILES-1993-mercedes-600-sl-v-12-1-935-actual-miles-like-/161512642458?forcerrptr=truehash=item259ae7579aitem=161512642458pt=US_Cars_Trucks You NEED that Dan! The perfect car to Martha-ize! Besides in a couple years you can sell that to your son to replace the S class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 13:15:56 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Diesel has finally started to fall like gas has - I saw from $2.99.9 to $3.49.9 this morning. un-contaminated regular grade gas is $2.39.9, while the drunken stuff is $2.19.9 or so. $3.41 to 3.69 here. Unfortunately the highest price is at the one i trust the most for good winter fuel. Benzin is $2.45 mostly. Still a buck less than diesel. Gasoline has been falling significantly here, but diesel is slow to follow. Diesel has been at 3.499 since before 12 November, but regular gasoline took another drop to 2.399. It costs about the same to drive our '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (3/4-ton) as it does our '82 240D/3.0 (but the 240D/3.0 has a dead battery which I have not yet replaced and the receiver hitch on the van is serving as an anchor for chain which goes over a sea container on our driveway to hold up our utility trailer which I am refurbishing). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices
3.79 for diesel this morning in Whitehall, MI 49461 Michael E. Esh 231 286 2344 On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 13:15:56 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Diesel has finally started to fall like gas has - I saw from $2.99.9 to $3.49.9 this morning. un-contaminated regular grade gas is $2.39.9, while the drunken stuff is $2.19.9 or so. $3.41 to 3.69 here. Unfortunately the highest price is at the one i trust the most for good winter fuel. Benzin is $2.45 mostly. Still a buck less than diesel. Gasoline has been falling significantly here, but diesel is slow to follow. Diesel has been at 3.499 since before 12 November, but regular gasoline took another drop to 2.399. It costs about the same to drive our '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (3/4-ton) as it does our '82 240D/3.0 (but the 240D/3.0 has a dead battery which I have not yet replaced and the receiver hitch on the van is serving as an anchor for chain which goes over a sea container on our driveway to hold up our utility trailer which I am refurbishing). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
They look like a Mustang. I have come to accept this. Like the W140, which got a facelift in 1996, the R129s were significantly better as far as quality and reliability from 1996 on. They got the electronic five speed 722.6 transmission, redesigned ACC system and a number of less significant tweaks. They definitely give meaning to the term roadster, however. After driving a W140, the R129 is like riding in a little red wagon down a rough sidewalk. Dan On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I have no doubt they are better cars. It's just that they are so b*tt ugly I could cry. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
IMHO, it has all the style points of any common Jap rice rocket.. somehow, Mercedes lost the plot. Sorry.. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-600SL-1-935-ACTUAL-MILES-1993-mercedes-600-sl-v-12-1-935-actual-miles-like-/161512642458?forcerrptr=truehash=item259ae7579aitem=161512642458pt=US_Cars_Trucks Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The R129 looks much better than the earlier versions unless one goes all the way back into the era of the W113. RB On 09/12/2014 4:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: They look like a Mustang. I have come to accept this. Like the W140, which got a facelift in 1996, the R129s were significantly better as far as quality and reliability from 1996 on. They got the electronic five speed 722.6 transmission, redesigned ACC system and a number of less significant tweaks. They definitely give meaning to the term roadster, however. After driving a W140, the R129 is like riding in a little red wagon down a rough sidewalk. Dan On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I have no doubt they are better cars. It's just that they are so b*tt ugly I could cry. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fog Light Problem
ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fog Light Problem Hi Gang -- A while back I wrote about a problem I had where both fog lights stopped working. i tested the bulbs and that worked great with 12V -- I changed the light switch with a new one I didn't know I had and Presto! I now have Fog Lights to help spot the deer along the side of the road. ;-) LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
I would agree. Try as I might, I have never been able to like the styling of the W107 models. I never really like the W116s, either, which are very close in design to the W107s in my opinion. I seriously considered a couple of different W107s in my search, but I just couldn't convince myself that this was the way I wanted to go. I'm happy with the R129, but I will say that it's a real contrast with the other models of its' vintage. Pretty bare bones in a lot of respects, nowhere near the amenities of the larger sedans of the time. Given the choice, I would give it up in a heartbeat for a W140 sedan of the same vintage. Dan On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The R129 looks much better than the earlier versions unless one goes all the way back into the era of the W113. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
I don't think the R129 is that bad. It has clean lines. I agree about the R107. It just doesn't cut it for me although the early euro models weren't that bad. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would agree. Try as I might, I have never been able to like the styling of the W107 models. I never really like the W116s, either, which are very close in design to the W107s in my opinion. I seriously considered a couple of different W107s in my search, but I just couldn't convince myself that this was the way I wanted to go. I'm happy with the R129, but I will say that it's a real contrast with the other models of its' vintage. Pretty bare bones in a lot of respects, nowhere near the amenities of the larger sedans of the time. Given the choice, I would give it up in a heartbeat for a W140 sedan of the same vintage. Dan On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The R129 looks much better than the earlier versions unless one goes all the way back into the era of the W113. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Wilton - One of yours?
Photo of bomb crater in Laos. RB -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: nsmail (2).jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81714 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141208/d06c98bf/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
G Mann via Mercedes wrote: IMHO, it has all the style points of any common Jap rice rocket.. somehow, Mercedes lost the plot. Sorry.. I thought it was a cross between a Mustang Convertible and a LeBaron GTC. In fact, a couple of companies used to make fiberglass kits to convert LeBarons into SLs. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question
I am going to assume that chicago has a stronger signal than south bend. Also, that there are only digital channels, no analog. A high power omni directional digital antenna should be able to suck down signal from both. I had to find out about this stuff in trying to get OTA tv for SWMBA in AK. She lives too near the airport and any channels are drowned out by the radio emissions for fly boys. Rabbit ears were worthless, a mid-price digital was not able to get more than UHF level signals, no major networks. Beastbuy sales drone figured out that she would have to get a cable hook up or the $200 omni antenna. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Dec 7, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I am right between Chicago and South Bend. I need two antennas to receive broadcasts from both cities. Can I use a coax splitter as a combiner? I have looked for a combiner and I can't seem to find one. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices
I paid 3.459 today for #2. Petrol was 3.819. This is in South County RI. On Dec 9, 2014 4:13 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 3.79 for diesel this morning in Whitehall, MI 49461 Michael E. Esh 231 286 2344 On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 13:15:56 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Diesel has finally started to fall like gas has - I saw from $2.99.9 to $3.49.9 this morning. un-contaminated regular grade gas is $2.39.9, while the drunken stuff is $2.19.9 or so. $3.41 to 3.69 here. Unfortunately the highest price is at the one i trust the most for good winter fuel. Benzin is $2.45 mostly. Still a buck less than diesel. Gasoline has been falling significantly here, but diesel is slow to follow. Diesel has been at 3.499 since before 12 November, but regular gasoline took another drop to 2.399. It costs about the same to drive our '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (3/4-ton) as it does our '82 240D/3.0 (but the 240D/3.0 has a dead battery which I have not yet replaced and the receiver hitch on the van is serving as an anchor for chain which goes over a sea container on our driveway to hold up our utility trailer which I am refurbishing). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question
she would have to get a cable hook up or the $200 omni antenna. If you are having reception problems, you don't want an omnidirectional antenna, you want a high-gain unidirectional antenna. Then aim it at your signal source, which hopefully is _not_ behind the airport! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices
I expect you mean benzin was $2.81.The station I usually buy at has regular at $2.75 and diesel at $3.39, even at the premium for diesel my Jetta is cheaper to drive than most cars. More fun too, I like the subtle turbo whistle. -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Michael Esh michael...@mac.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices I paid 3.459 today for #2. Petrol was 3.819. This is in South County RI. On Dec 9, 2014 4:13 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 3.79 for diesel this morning in Whitehall, MI 49461 Michael E. Esh 231 286 2344 On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 13:15:56 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Diesel has finally started to fall like gas has - I saw from $2.99.9 to $3.49.9 this morning. un-contaminated regular grade gas is $2.39.9, while the drunken stuff is $2.19.9 or so. $3.41 to 3.69 here. Unfortunately the highest price is at the one i trust the most for good winter fuel. Benzin is $2.45 mostly. Still a buck less than diesel. Gasoline has been falling significantly here, but diesel is slow to follow. Diesel has been at 3.499 since before 12 November, but regular gasoline took another drop to 2.399. It costs about the same to drive our '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (3/4-ton) as it does our '82 240D/3.0 (but the 240D/3.0 has a dead battery which I have not yet replaced and the receiver hitch on the van is serving as an anchor for chain which goes over a sea container on our driveway to hold up our utility trailer which I am refurbishing). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices
Yes you are right. Sorry for the typo. 2.81 for petrol. On Dec 9, 2014 9:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I expect you mean benzin was $2.81.The station I usually buy at has regular at $2.75 and diesel at $3.39, even at the premium for diesel my Jetta is cheaper to drive than most cars. More fun too, I like the subtle turbo whistle. -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Michael Esh michael...@mac.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel prices I paid 3.459 today for #2. Petrol was 3.819. This is in South County RI. On Dec 9, 2014 4:13 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 3.79 for diesel this morning in Whitehall, MI 49461 Michael E. Esh 231 286 2344 On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 13:15:56 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Diesel has finally started to fall like gas has - I saw from $2.99.9 to $3.49.9 this morning. un-contaminated regular grade gas is $2.39.9, while the drunken stuff is $2.19.9 or so. $3.41 to 3.69 here. Unfortunately the highest price is at the one i trust the most for good winter fuel. Benzin is $2.45 mostly. Still a buck less than diesel. Gasoline has been falling significantly here, but diesel is slow to follow. Diesel has been at 3.499 since before 12 November, but regular gasoline took another drop to 2.399. It costs about the same to drive our '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (3/4-ton) as it does our '82 240D/3.0 (but the 240D/3.0 has a dead battery which I have not yet replaced and the receiver hitch on the van is serving as an anchor for chain which goes over a sea container on our driveway to hold up our utility trailer which I am refurbishing). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] EGT anyone?
IF you have a turboDiesel, you really should have an EGT gauge and a boost gauge. I have never forgiven MB or VW for thinking these are not necessary in the US/NA. My old Bosch injection guy thought they were necessary for ANY Diesel engine. Back 30 years ago it was hundreds of bucks to get an EGT pyrometer. This guy will sell you an EGT gauge with probe for $25. Look at his other stuff for sale. He has several EGT probes, Digital and round gauge readouts, Other Automotive gauges, Thermocouples, RTD, temp controllers and all kinds of goodies for cheep! (Cheep Chinee of course) http://www.ebay.com/itm/EGT-Gauge-Blue-LED-Exhaust-Temperature-Sensors-Weld-Bund-Combo-/251745321798?pt=Other_Vehicle_Partsvxp=mtrhash=item3a9d30c346 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Wilton - One of yours?
'Don't remember dropping any on Laos, but possible. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 12:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] Wilton - One of yours? Photo of bomb crater in Laos. RB -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: nsmail (2).jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81714 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141208/d06c98bf/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
