Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules
White guys in white short sleeve shirts with narrow black ties, with short haircuts and Dietzgen or Post slide rules. The amazing thing is that it was only 51 years from the Wright bros flyer going 103' to the design of this stealth plane, and that it has been 51 years since, and all the computer jockey engineers who did NOT grow up in the depression have not been able to design a higher performance craft. Lighter and more powerful onboard computers, yes, but nothing flies higher or faster. ...or else we just don't know about it In this day of cellphone cameras, i don't think a bird higher and faster could be kept secret. Most US people would trade 5 seconds of fame for any national defense secret. (Military excepted) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules
Speaking of advanced designs made by people with slide rules... http://tinyurl.com/kxox5ab Beautiful picture Looks like it could be a current engine until you look closely. the givaways that it is not a current design: steel cap on the PS pump, aluminum intake pipes, but those are part of the beauty of the photo, distributor and if you look closely, you see a Bosch inline IP, not the lousy distributor type used in the later engines. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] XP Update: for real or did I get punked?
A Windows XP update popped up in the Windows toolbar in the same place where Win updates have for years. It popped up from the MS shield toolbar icon (ie, not a web ad) There were two files, which after some hesitation, I green-lit. One was KB972270 and a second one whose number I didn't record. I thought MS didn't support XP anymore. Did they have a change of heart, or did I get punked? Looked legit. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules
Speaking of advanced designs made by people with slide rules... From the 1930s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_601#mediaviewer/File:Daimler-Benz-DB_601A.jpg Held records for quite a few years. Also industrial art. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
https://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2F378422722260919%2Fpermalink%2F545595825543607%2Faref=126615751medium=emailmid=aff8531G5cddf6dcG78c00c7G96Ge977bcode=1.1419085827.Abk8-Ex_n6q-OBSSn_m=lefaeth%40leadingchange.comJaime Kopchinski posted in mercedes-veterans https://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.phpid=11155586971aref=126615751medium=emailmid=aff8531G5cddf6dcG78c00c7G96Ge977bcode=1.1419085827.Abk8-Ex_n6q-OBSSn_m=lefaeth%40leadingchange.com https://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.phpid=11155586971aref=126615751medium=emailmid=aff8531G5cddf6dcG78c00c7G96Ge977bcode=1.1419085827.Abk8-Ex_n6q-OBSSn_m=lefaeth%40leadingchange.comJaime Kopchinski 8:30am Dec 20 I don't know if anyones been following this, but its getting pretty heavy here locally. I have a lot of friends and coworkers who are directly effected by the potential move (but I'm not, luckily). Not a nice thing to worry about over the holidays. http://l.facebook.com/l/EAQESzbfR/www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847http://www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847 Personally, I could never figure out why they opened up shop in NJ (other than it is one of the points in the USA closest to die vaterland)Based on sales, they should locate in Dallas or lost angels. Why not just move to AL where the plant is? Hotlanta is no longer a desirable location. Why not someplace centrally located? Right now Des Moines is one of the best locations to live in. It is a transportation hub. It is ranked as the #2 under the radar tech center. Micro$oft, Facilbook, Whoogle and others have data centers in the metro area. We invented the term Silicon Prairie in 1999. There are a lot of software and embedded systems companies and designers in the area. I am sure MB could negotiate a 20 yr tax abatement with the gov. After that they could move on. The gov gave egyptians big money to build a fertilizer plant. Surely he could shovel out a few million taxpayer bux for MBUSA. https://www.desmoinesmetro.com/en/dsm_metro_info/rankings/ Even Duluth or Topeka would be better than NJ. Madison, WI gets high rankings on some lists, but it has a lot of wackos and degenerates. Those seem to be everywhere, but some places have higher concentrations, like Pahoa and Oceanview in HI. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/12/as_mercedes_mulls_exit_from_nj_state_legislators_scramble.html Does this affect Jaime, or in the long term if not now? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] XP Update: for real or did I get punked?
On December 21, 2014 at 4:15 AM Van Knutson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Windows XP update popped up in the Windows toolbar in the same place where Win updates have for years. It popped up from the MS shield toolbar icon (ie, not a web ad) There were two files, which after some hesitation, I green-lit. One was KB972270 and a second one whose number I didn't record. I thought MS didn't support XP anymore. Did they have a change of heart, or did I get punked? Looked legit. They aren't new updates, been around for four years, but... http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/11705/resolved_kb972270_and_kb982132_repeatedly_install ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
https://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2F378422722260919%2Fpermalink%2F545595825543607%2Faref=126615751medium=emailmid=aff8531G5cddf6dcG78c00c7G96Ge977bcode=1.1419085827.Abk8-Ex_n6q-OBSSn_m=lefaeth%40leadingchange.comJaime Kopchinski posted in mercedes-veterans https://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.phpid=11155586971aref=126615751medium=emailmid=aff8531G5cddf6dcG78c00c7G96Ge977bcode=1.1419085827.Abk8-Ex_n6q-OBSSn_m=lefaeth%40leadingchange.com https://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.phpid=11155586971aref=126615751medium=emailmid=aff8531G5cddf6dcG78c00c7G96Ge977bcode=1.1419085827.Abk8-Ex_n6q-OBSSn_m=lefaeth%40leadingchange.comJaime Kopchinski 8:30am Dec 20 I don't know if anyones been following this, but its getting pretty heavy here locally. I have a lot of friends and coworkers who are directly effected by the potential move (but I'm not, luckily). Not a nice thing to worry about over the holidays. http://l.facebook.com/l/EAQESzbfR/www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847http://www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847 http://tinyurl.com/l62f2bd How about Fargo or Bismark? Minot or Grand Forks? ND is the best run state. Lotsa new millionaires there to sell S-wagens or other PKW to. Isn't it amazing what producing income will do? It has turned ND into one of the best places to live. Our dear leader (or was that apologizer in chief) has not figured out that all wealth comes from growing things (ag and forestry) mining stuff or making things that people need out of things grown or mined. Community agitating produces nothing good. all other activities live off the productive like parasites. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Might be a buy!
So what? $500 and a engine from a $500 rustbucket and you have a nice car for cheap. Aside from that, it sounds more like a $5 pushbutton starter switch bypassing the lockout and or the ign switch would cure it.Nothing i read indicates the engine is worn out, but it could be. Whatcha expect for $500? Its worth $300 as a crusher. Might not! The beast has a tired engine. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/4728572390.htmlhttp://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/4728572390.html 79 300D. no rust apparent _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
It affects me, but not directly. I don't work for MBUSA, I work for MBRDNA. Although I do sit in Montvale. You could come up with towns all over the country that have advantages for one or another reason. The New York area is a top market (above texas, florida, and others)... the cars are bought here and have been for decades. New Jersey (and Bergen county) have historically been the home of most foreign car manufactures for the last 50+ years. BMW, Volvo, Jaguar/LR, and Subaru are based here still. (plus toyota, ford and others have offices here) BMW recently made a huge investment by building a new campus (a few miles down the road from MBUSA). Subaru just announced they're doing the same in NJ. The bigger impact for me personally is on the people that work at MBUSA and have dedicated their careers to the company. There are loads of people who have been there for 20+ years. These people are my friends and co-workers, so yes, I have a different perspective than someone who just considers them moving some jobs. I wouldn't want to pick up my family to follow a job or a company. I've seen too many people get screwed in that game. Jaime On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/12/as_mercedes_mulls_exit_from_nj_state_legislators_scramble.html Does this affect Jaime, or in the long term if not now? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
Why do they want to move? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It affects me, but not directly. I don't work for MBUSA, I work for MBRDNA. Although I do sit in Montvale. You could come up with towns all over the country that have advantages for one or another reason. The New York area is a top market (above texas, florida, and others)... the cars are bought here and have been for decades. New Jersey (and Bergen county) have historically been the home of most foreign car manufactures for the last 50+ years. BMW, Volvo, Jaguar/LR, and Subaru are based here still. (plus toyota, ford and others have offices here) BMW recently made a huge investment by building a new campus (a few miles down the road from MBUSA). Subaru just announced they're doing the same in NJ. The bigger impact for me personally is on the people that work at MBUSA and have dedicated their careers to the company. There are loads of people who have been there for 20+ years. These people are my friends and co-workers, so yes, I have a different perspective than someone who just considers them moving some jobs. I wouldn't want to pick up my family to follow a job or a company. I've seen too many people get screwed in that game. Jaime On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/12/as_mercedes_mulls_exit_from_nj_state_legislators_scramble.html Does this affect Jaime, or in the long term if not now? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
I don't know. On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:54 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why do they want to move? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It affects me, but not directly. I don't work for MBUSA, I work for MBRDNA. Although I do sit in Montvale. You could come up with towns all over the country that have advantages for one or another reason. The New York area is a top market (above texas, florida, and others)... the cars are bought here and have been for decades. New Jersey (and Bergen county) have historically been the home of most foreign car manufactures for the last 50+ years. BMW, Volvo, Jaguar/LR, and Subaru are based here still. (plus toyota, ford and others have offices here) BMW recently made a huge investment by building a new campus (a few miles down the road from MBUSA). Subaru just announced they're doing the same in NJ. The bigger impact for me personally is on the people that work at MBUSA and have dedicated their careers to the company. There are loads of people who have been there for 20+ years. These people are my friends and co-workers, so yes, I have a different perspective than someone who just considers them moving some jobs. I wouldn't want to pick up my family to follow a job or a company. I've seen too many people get screwed in that game. Jaime On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/12/as_mercedes_mulls_exit_from_nj_state_legislators_scramble.html Does this affect Jaime, or in the long term if not now? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices
I finally found diesel under $3.29, $2.99 last night in Fitzwilliam NH. Usually I won't go out special for fuel but to save $.30/gal its worth it... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Evil lights
Changing the backup lights in my W123 300TD is a real PIA as well. I can never get the plastic lens to seat back into place properly, and the bulb tends to pop out while putting everything back together. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 87 300D is no picnic either -- the air filter housing is right in the way. I can get the bulb into the hole, but it's very difficult to get it to seat correctly and then get the ring to lock down on it -- no way to see how it's sitting with your hand over it! Beats removing a fender, but I've driven with the bulb in sideways a couple times. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules
Sort of begs the question - would there be any use in trying to develop a faster aircraft? On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Speaking of advanced designs made by people with slide rules... From the 1930s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_601# mediaviewer/File:Daimler-Benz-DB_601A.jpg Held records for quite a few years. Also industrial art. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Might be a buy!
So why would anyone want to mess with a non aspirated old diesel that has no collector value? On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So what? $500 and a engine from a $500 rustbucket and you have a nice car for cheap. Aside from that, it sounds more like a $5 pushbutton starter switch bypassing the lockout and or the ign switch would cure it.Nothing i read indicates the engine is worn out, but it could be. Whatcha expect for $500? Its worth $300 as a crusher. Might not! The beast has a tired engine. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mailto: mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/4728572390.htmlhttp:/ /neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/4728572390.html 79 300D. no rust apparent _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules
On Dec 21, 2014, at 3:29 AM, Scott wrote: From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules Date: December 20, 2014 6:47:44 PM PST To: 'Rich Thomas' richthomas79td...@constructivity.net, 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com As shown in the video, pressure recovery at the inlet was critical to generating thrust. If the analog computer burped and misplaced the inlet spike, the resulting drop in thrust was dramatic. This event was called an inlet unstart. The resulting violent yaw motion was the faster than human reflexes. In the early days, the SR yaw autopilot had limited authority and an unstart produced extremely violent motion at the cockpit (which was way forward at the end of a long moment arm). I believe at least one SR disintegrated inflight when the yaw from an unstart exceeded aircraft structural limits. Later in the program, better flight and engine controls mitigated the unstart problem. The SR stands as a tribute to the men (and women) who built and flew it. Those folks knew that anything worthwhile involved risk. Wikipedia has a decent article on this amazing aircraft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird#Accidents_and_aircraft _disposition Scott The pilot of that SR unstart incident, a test pilot for Lockheed at the time of the accident, is a friend of mine. He was thrown clear when the jet came apart but his systems, operator was killed. He went back to flying and, up until just recently, he was flying the L-1011 launch jet for Orbital Sciences satellite launches. Addison CL-500 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Might be a buy!
Low buck driver? Some of us drive more than others, I put 20,000 miles on the Jetta in a year... Cheapest driver I ever had was the second time I owned my '83 240D, I drove it 25,000 for $2500 which includes buying the car and doing oil changes. Toward the end it was leaking/consuming oil so bad I was using the cheapest 15w40 I could find and putting the change out oil back in as makeup oil (plus some new). It finally died, some of you might remember, due to a failed oil cooler bypass hose which was totally my fault. If the car in question wasn't so far away I'd seriously consider it. My '84 190D is still not starting right even with cleaned/rebuilt injectors and the tinworm is quite serious on it... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Might be a buy! So why would anyone want to mess with a non aspirated old diesel that has no collector value? On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So what? $500 and a engine from a $500 rustbucket and you have a nice car for cheap. Aside from that, it sounds more like a $5 pushbutton starter switch bypassing the lockout and or the ign switch would cure it. Nothing i read indicates the engine is worn out, but it could be. Whatcha expect for $500? Its worth $300 as a crusher. Might not! The beast has a tired engine. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mailto: mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/4728572390.htmlhttp:/ /neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/4728572390.html 79 300D. no rust apparent _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Welding time again
Hadta do some more welding on the Jetta before winter and yesterday it wasn't raining (3 straight weeks of almost constant rain/clouds, sheesh) so yesterday I jacked it up and once again crawled under... Pulled on the passenger seat and pulled the carpet back and a little picking left three holes, one of them quite large. That might explain the increased road noise inside the car. Over the next 4 hours I got the biggest hole welded back up. Ran out of light and bodily energy so I used some gasket maker to glue a couple pieces of plastic over the other two holes. VW put rubber plugs in the body, one of the holes is really just where one of the plugs fell out. The plastic will hopefully keep the inside of the car dry so those holes won't get a lot worse, I'll aim to tackle them in spring.I finished with a little fiberglass, the last piece I welded in was up into a notch in the body where I could either fill in the notch or plate over it, neither was a very good solution. I opted to fill the notch as best as I could and stuff some fiberglass in the little holes I couldn't get to. Big hole: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/1998%20Jetta/IMG_20141220_115632221_zpsnfwaaick.jpg Smaller holes: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/1998%20Jetta/IMG_20141220_115636975_zps8calpoo5.jpg the body plug is the hole on the left. Also notice the proximity of the fuel line. Fortunately they're flexible and look like they'll move out of the way pretty easily. This was some of the largest plating I've ever done, as in I used larger pieces of metal that I ever have before. The welding is terrible but time was of the essence, again I'll clean it up in spring. Supposedly around Christmas it'll be in the 50's with rain. If we get the higher temps I'll make a tent over the side of the car and spray some undercoating to make everything water tight. Hey, its a $1500 car... Unsurprisingly I ran out of wire about 45 minutes into the job and had to jump into the 190D (MB content!) to get some more and of course the first roll I bought wasn't flux core. Oh how nice it is to use fresh wire! I might have to make a warm box to keep my welding wire dry in, of course it'd be a hassle to pull the existing wire out of the gun each time I was done but it might be worth it. I could always splurge and get a gas bottle but the flux stuff works just fine even when its not fresh. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules
What, no Pell Mells? (Vonnegut's name for Pall Mall) Mitch. On December 21, 2014 at 10:33 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was thinking Camels, Lucky Strike, and some Marlboros. And of course Morleys. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Welding time again
Yep, 'nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: [MBZ] Welding time again Hadta do some more welding on the Jetta before winter and yesterday it wasn't raining (3 straight weeks of almost constant rain/clouds, sheesh) so yesterday I jacked it up and once again crawled under... Pulled on the passenger seat and pulled the carpet back and a little picking left three holes, one of them quite large. That might explain the increased road noise inside the car. Over the next 4 hours I got the biggest hole welded back up. Ran out of light and bodily energy so I used some gasket maker to glue a couple pieces of plastic over the other two holes. VW put rubber plugs in the body, one of the holes is really just where one of the plugs fell out. The plastic will hopefully keep the inside of the car dry so those holes won't get a lot worse, I'll aim to tackle them in spring.I finished with a little fiberglass, the last piece I welded in was up into a notch in the body where I could either fill in the notch or plate over it, neither was a very good solution. I opted to fill the notch as best as I could and stuff some fiberglass in the little holes I couldn't get to. Big hole: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/1998%20Jetta/IMG_20141220_115632221_zpsnfwaaick.jpg Smaller holes: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/1998%20Jetta/IMG_20141220_115636975_zps8calpoo5.jpg the body plug is the hole on the left. Also notice the proximity of the fuel line. Fortunately they're flexible and look like they'll move out of the way pretty easily. This was some of the largest plating I've ever done, as in I used larger pieces of metal that I ever have before. The welding is terrible but time was of the essence, again I'll clean it up in spring. Supposedly around Christmas it'll be in the 50's with rain. If we get the higher temps I'll make a tent over the side of the car and spray some undercoating to make everything water tight. Hey, its a $1500 car... Unsurprisingly I ran out of wire about 45 minutes into the job and had to jump into the 190D (MB content!) to get some more and of course the first roll I bought wasn't flux core. Oh how nice it is to use fresh wire! I might have to make a warm box to keep my welding wire dry in, of course it'd be a hassle to pull the existing wire out of the gun each time I was done but it might be worth it. I could always splurge and get a gas bottle but the flux stuff works just fine even when its not fresh. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Castrol oil blend $1/qt free shipping
I bought a case of 5-30 for american cars and a case of 10-40 for small engines. Figured at that price I'd make it easy on them by buying in multiples of 12. http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1416602/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules
Sadly, the race to space rendered the SR71 obsolete. Each launch and recovery of the SR71 ran a minimum of $1,000,000. Even a reposition ferry flight incurred that cost. Plus, the opposition developed equipment that effectively defeated it's advantages. The spy vs spy game is a cat and mouse game with each side building ever bigger cats and mice. One satellite with the necessary camera equipment and other special electronics equipment could make a pass over the target opposition every 60 minutes.. two could be positioned so that interval was even less.. a geo-stationary could hang in orbit to give continual coverage.. so SR71, as glamorous and sexy as it is.. was simply out gunned. On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What, no Pell Mells? (Vonnegut's name for Pall Mall) Mitch. On December 21, 2014 at 10:33 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was thinking Camels, Lucky Strike, and some Marlboros. And of course Morleys. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT White guys in white short sleeve shirts with short haircuts and slide rules
Curly wrote: Speaking of advanced designs made by people with slide rules... From the 1930s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_601#mediaviewer/File:Daimler-Benz-DB_601A.jpg Held records for quite a few years. Also industrial art. Reading the article, that engine has overhead cams - but it's an inverted V, so really the cams are underfoot - or something... Cool engine - but all those big aircraft engines are. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
It's too dang hot in Hotlanta. Hard to acclimate to hot! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2014, at 4:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I don't know if anyones been following this, but its getting pretty heavy here locally. I have a lot of friends and coworkers who are directly effected by the potential move (but I'm not, luckily). Not a nice thing to worry about over the holidays. http://l.facebook.com/l/EAQESzbfR/www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847http://www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847 Curly wrote: Personally, I could never figure out why they opened up shop in NJ (other than it is one of the points in the USA closest to die vaterland)Based on sales, they should locate in Dallas or lost angels. Why not just move to AL where the plant is? Hotlanta is no longer a desirable location. Major company branches seldom move to Atlanta proper; they move to one of the outlying areas. MB is probably thinking of the Atlanta area for several reasons: lower overhead, a world class airport with direct flights to all major international cities, seldom any weather disruptions in the winter, major international ground and air shipping routes and facilities, a few hours drive or 45 minute flight to their plant in Alabama, etc. Besides that, Atlanta is probably more of an international city than anyplace in New Jersey. Over 60% of the Atlanta area population are from someplace besides Georgia; including numerous foreign countries. Company employees transferred to the Atlanta area seldom have problems acclimating to the local culture since Georgians, like Southerners in general, are friendly and hospitable. Jaimie and his friends would probably settle in quickly and be glad they were transferred to the Atlanta area. Gerrywho lived and worked in Atlanta for six years ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Nice 300D
Nice looking car and the owner seems realistic about the value - heck, the 15 bundts are probably worth a grand at least! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
Major company branches seldom move to Atlanta proper; they move to one of the outlying areas. MB is probably thinking of the Atlanta area for several reasons: lower overhead, a world class airport with direct flights to all major international cities, seldom any weather disruptions in the winter, major international ground and air shipping routes and facilities, a few hours drive or 45 minute flight to their plant in Alabama, etc. Besides that, Atlanta is probably more of an international city than anyplace in New Jersey. Over 60% of the Atlanta area population are from someplace besides Georgia; including numerous foreign countries. Company employees transferred to the Atlanta area seldom have problems acclimating to the local culture since Georgians, like Southerners in general, are friendly and hospitable. Jaimie and his friends would probably settle in quickly and be glad they were transferred to the Atlanta area. Gerrywho lived and worked in Atlanta for six years Lower overhead: Lowest would likely be Fargo or GreatFalls. Near the existing plant in AL would also be a very low overhead. Anywhere between the appalachians and the rockies would be competitive with or less than Hotlanta with the possible exceptions of Denver or Dallas. World class airport, meaning a major airline hub: Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Memphis, St Louis, Minneapolis, Denver would all qualify. Of these, I'd guess Memphis would have the lowest overhead cost. Places like Des Moines or Omaha, and Charlotte are gaining as hubs too, with much less congestion and lower costs. AA is moving from the hub and spoke arrangement to point to point. That will make many more locations desirable, and lessen the advantage of hubs like Denver, Chicago and Hotlanta. If other airlines follow suit, the hubs will diminish in importance. Seldom any weather disruptions in the winter: Depends on definitions. I think Hotlanta has as many disruptions as Chicago, but the FAA or NWS should have the info. major international ground and air shipping routes and facilities, Hard to beat Memphis for these, but St Louis, Memphis, Des Moines, Omaha and Chicago are all major distribution points. Chicago, St Louis, Memphis and Omaha have major rail and water shipping facilities. International City: Any city and many small small city in the central US has large international populations. Companies like Siemens have locations all over the country. My son works for Siemens building automotive software in a town of 40,000. Most have several international stores. Larger cities have many international stores. Friendly People: Everywhere in the central US is known as friendly. There are undesirable sections in the big cities, but aside from big cities, friendly people are pretty much everywhere west of the appalachians and south of the MasonDixon line east of the appalchians. Most outside visitors say Des moines is the friendliest place in the country, but I've been lots of places I think are as good or better. So, politics aside, there are many locations as good as or better than hotlanta That said, the decision will be mostly or ALL political. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D
Windows may just need a fuse, since they are opposites. Nice looking car and the owner seems realistic about the value - heck, the 15 bundts are probably worth a grand at least! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Update on blown up e300
So it ain't all blowed up? --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 21, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Got alternator and new belt on the car. Coolant was not really low but I topped it off from the little bit that boiled over. I do not see any signs of blown head so I think we are good. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D
I would sell the bundts and get some painted wheels and color matched wheel covers. I hate bundts. Dan On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice looking car and the owner seems realistic about the value - heck, the 15 bundts are probably worth a grand at least! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D
Amen. On Dec 21, 2014 9:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would sell the bundts and get some painted wheels and color matched wheel covers. I hate bundts. Dan On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice looking car and the owner seems realistic about the value - heck, the 15 bundts are probably worth a grand at least! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - Video editing
I'm looking for a free or low cost basic video editor for Windows. All I really need to do is cut and splice, dissolves would be nice, but I can live without them. No special effects wanted at all. Over laying text or character generation would be all the much special effects I would use. Any recommendations for something that doesn't spy on me, report all my browsing to the mother ship and N. Korea, etc. Am I stuck with buying Adobe Elements and all it's bloatware? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing
OK wrote: I'm looking for a free or low cost basic video editor for Windows. I wonder if any of the editors I have on Linux also have a MSWin port. I have not looked. kdenlive cinelerra openmovieeditor openshot pitivi kino avidemux - no disolves, can re-encode or not. And I think I heard someone mention Free Video Editor which I think also can do cuts without re-encoding. I've heard good of VirtualDub, which I think is MSWin only. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
