Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
WOW! What is the going rate on these now? A few years ago, this would have sold for $5000! Has the market changed? I would think someone would snatch that car up! -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:21 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897 Dan On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in December with 100k miles on it. The body has had its share of paint and repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is wonderful. Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from 1998-2001. Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are. Every bit of acceleration seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality. Very satisfying. You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the road and be more aware of your surroundings. It makes you a better driver. I love the simplicity of the car. Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual everything, no sunroof. Big options on the car are AC and the automatic. I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out every hp I could. Its really lovely to drive. Here are some crummy pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month: http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/ I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term. But, they're getting pretty impossible to find these days. Jaime On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
You don't get run over though. People honk and complain occasionally but mostly they just live with it. I commuted with a 240D pretty much full time for 10 years. Drove it into Boston or to Maine, no big whoop. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant That really is a nice car! But, I can't imagine driving that today. My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration. After I got my 124 Diesel, I realized that MB diesels can be relatively fast to accelerate. I have never driven one of the 210 diesels, but I assume they are even faster. That car probably does make you a better driver, but it could also get you run over. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:44:21 + Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One of the reasons I got rid of my Jag was because it was the opposite end of the spectrum from the 240D. It was scary fast. I was really worried I would end up with way too many tickets or crash it. Aha! Now we know the truth: Donald's alias is Leadfoot Louie! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:04:18 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jamie said, I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term. But, they're getting pretty impossible to find these days. Jaime AND NO ACC! Just valves that work and a fan switch that works! I'd prefer a 240D 3.0 over a 300D any day! simply because with a 240D 3.0 there is NO ACC to break regularly! Yes, indeed! Our '82 240D/3.0 has no ACC and I can set the airflow however I want it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] First Cars
I want one for a farm truck which is why I'd want a K20, I guess I wouldn't pass up a K30 either. It'll only be run from May through November or early December. With Dad retiring and spending a lot more time at camp it makes sense to have a farm truck. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars Well, yes a four wheel drive would be handy. But, if I found a super nice K10, I'm not sure I would drive it in the snow! Donald H. Snook Snook Law LLC 5020 E. Central Ave Suite A Wichita, Kansas 67208 T: 316-512-5608 E: d...@snooklawllc.com This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars You and me both although I actually want a K20 although I'd take a K10 in a pinch. :) Looking on Craigslist for Las Vegas there are lots of C10s and a few K10s. Also quite a few of each in the pacific northwest. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars I have wanted a 68-72 Chevy C10 or GMC for a long time. I went to an auto show a few weeks ago here in town and there was an orange one (I think it was a 1970) and it was totally stock original and perfect! It had 19,000 miles. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:43 PM To: Ed Booher; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars I had a hand me down from my father to start with (a 64 Anglia) but the 1st one I bought was a 65 Mustang. It was Rangoon Red with a Red interior. It's orginal color had been cream but it had been painted red by the time I got it. It was a 6 cylinder with a 3 speed manual transmission. A nice little car that made good mileage. I only kept it a year or two and swapped it for a 68 Cougar with a 289 and automatic. It was Red with a Black interior. I do sort of wish I had kept either or both of them. I had the 68 C10 that I commented on a week or so back for the longest time, and sometimes wonder if I should have hung onto it too. I cannot think of another vehicle I have had that I wish I had kept. If I had an acreage with a barn that I could store things in, it might be different. I live in a city on a small lot and have to limit myself here. I could take things out to the lake but parking is somewhat limited there to and the environment is probably more harsh there to to the moisture from the lake. Oh, Well, cannot have it all . . . RB On 29/01/2015 2:32 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes wrote: My first car, 1966 Ford Mustang, 289 4 bbl V8. Blue with blue interior. That car was fun. I regularly kick myself when I think about it, should never have sold that car. EdB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Hey Dimitri
This guy's pickup acts just like the 240D did (does?). Wish I had his block flushing method available.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS_ja-EDHEAindex=3list=PL-5YzBia-1bmnkkT06GYLUG-F1g_rIj98 I wonder if something could gotten loose inside the engine on your 240D and is blocking the flow of coolant. I dunno what it could be or how to test for it but it seems like an interesting theory. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
I’m sure you can get used to it. I’m just saying for me, it would drive me crazy. In the last 3-4 years I have driven my BMW (with 300 HP) and my Jag (XJR) with 300 HP and over 300 lb Torque (and a supercharger), so I couldn’t get used to driving a car you have to plan that far ahead. One of the reasons I got rid of my Jag was because it was the opposite end of the spectrum from the 240D. It was scary fast. I was really worried I would end up with way too many tickets or crash it. From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:32 AM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant You don't get run over though. People honk and complain occasionally but mostly they just live with it. I commuted with a 240D pretty much full time for 10 years. Drove it into Boston or to Maine, no big whoop. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant That really is a nice car! But, I can't imagine driving that today. My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration. After I got my 124 Diesel, I realized that MB diesels can be relatively fast to accelerate. I have never driven one of the 210 diesels, but I assume they are even faster. That car probably does make you a better driver, but it could also get you run over. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration. My 1972 200D (euro 115) is no speed demon, but most times at stop lights I'm seeing the cars behind me, not before. It's plenty fast enough. Stickshift, and geared for a top speed of 85 or so. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
I think you would adapt pretty quickly. I switch back and forth, in summer, between the new F150 with the coyote engine and the old non turbo 300D and really don't notice much difference. The truck will growl and go if I really step on it but I seldom need to do that and generally try not to abuse it. The diesel is fine in stop and go traffic in town. It is a bit slow on the merge lane situations but apart from that, no big deal. I don't drive it all that much on 2 lane highways where I need to pass quickly and if I do, then I drive accordingly. I know the roads that I drive on well enough to know where a place to pass will be if there is no oncoming traffic and then plan ahead to drop back before hand and then come up on the car I want to pass at a faster speed than it is travelling. If the way is clear, around I go, and if it is not, then I drop back and wait for the next opportunity. RB On 30/01/2015 9:44 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: I’m sure you can get used to it. I’m just saying for me, it would drive me crazy. In the last 3-4 years I have driven my BMW (with 300 HP) and my Jag (XJR) with 300 HP and over 300 lb Torque (and a supercharger), so I couldn’t get used to driving a car you have to plan that far ahead. One of the reasons I got rid of my Jag was because it was the opposite end of the spectrum from the 240D. It was scary fast. I was really worried I would end up with way too many tickets or crash it. From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:32 AM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant You don't get run over though. People honk and complain occasionally but mostly they just live with it. I commuted with a 240D pretty much full time for 10 years. Drove it into Boston or to Maine, no big whoop. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant That really is a nice car! But, I can't imagine driving that today. My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration. After I got my 124 Diesel, I realized that MB diesels can be relatively fast to accelerate. I have never driven one of the 210 diesels, but I assume they are even faster. That car probably does make you a better driver, but it could also get you run over. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
I love the simplicity of the car. Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual everything, no sunroof. Big options on the car are AC and the automatic. I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out every hp I could. Its really lovely to drive. Here are some crummy pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month: http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/ I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term. But, they're getting pretty impossible to find these days. Jaime AND NO ACC! Just valves that work and a fan switch that works! I'd prefer a 240D 3.0 over a 300D any day! simply because with a 240D 3.0 there is NO ACC to break regularly! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
That really is a nice car! But, I can't imagine driving that today. My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration. After I got my 124 Diesel, I realized that MB diesels can be relatively fast to accelerate. I have never driven one of the 210 diesels, but I assume they are even faster. That car probably does make you a better driver, but it could also get you run over. -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski [mailto:jaime...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:59 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in December with 100k miles on it. The body has had its share of paint and repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is wonderful. Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from 1998-2001. Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are. Every bit of acceleration seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality. Very satisfying. You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the road and be more aware of your surroundings. It makes you a better driver. I love the simplicity of the car. Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual everything, no sunroof. Big options on the car are AC and the automatic. I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out every hp I could. Its really lovely to drive. Here are some crummy pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month: http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/ I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term. But, they're getting pretty impossible to find these days. Jaime On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] first car
Andrew wrote: Those VW buses are worth sick money now. When we lived in Colorado I bought a '74 bus and rebuilt the engine. The very nice thing I liked about that bus was the bench seat in front - no split walkway that most bus seem to have. Is that front bench rare? We got a 6.2 Beanville van after that - so that we could drive with heat, although in practice, heat is not really necessary in Colorado winter when the sun is shining. Oh well. After living at Drennan we moved back to rustbelt. My first car was '54 BelAir 3-speed on column, license plates for rear floorboard. My brother and I split the $50 purchase and drove it quite a bit. The major work I remember was numerous fix of alternator brush bracket. Also at coledg it seems that someone put salt or sugar in the gas tank and I had to drop the tank to rinse the granular stuff out of the system so I could drive 300 miles home. Could that have been crystalized old fuel? I learned stick on the Maverick my brother convinced mom to purchase - nice grabber look-alike. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] first car
I had to LOL at this:
*so I used the drained oilfrom Dad's Cessna in it*
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
My first car was a 1951 VW bug with the 1100cc 25hp engine and 120,000
miles. It burned/leaked a quart of oil a week, so I used the drained oil
from Dad's Cessna in it. I rebuilt a 1200cc engine from a later car ('62?)
and moved the body from the '51 chassis to the '62 chassis. I gained
synchromesh in the tranny as well as a more robust engine. I bought another
'51 for a parts car later. The first one was the deluxe model - it had
aluminum trim and hydraulic brakes. The second one was the standard model,
no trim and mechanical (cable) brakes.
Many years later we bought a '74 bus with a smashed front end, and a front
clip from a salvage yard and welded the two together. It was a great car
unless you needed heat or defrost, when it was worthless.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
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Andrew wrote:
Those VW buses are worth sick money now.
--
OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] Biking in the Snow
Studded tires??? The fat tired bikes interest me but I wonder how much more effort there is to using one? RB On 28/01/2015 7:05 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: For a growing community of winter cyclists in Milwaukee, this sounds like the perfect weather to bring out the bike. Year-round cycling is on the rise in the Midwest city — where winter lows can go south of zero. It’s a trend that debunks critics around the country who say bike lanes will only be used in fair weather. Dave Schlabowske, deputy director at the Wisconsin Bike Federation, says he’s seen a drastic change in the last 15 years that he’s been biking to work through the winter. “Back then, if I saw somebody I didn’t know biking in February, I’d email the six other people I knew who biked in the winter and tell them about it,” he says. “Now I see people out there all the time.” In snowy months, the city government’s top priority for helping bikers is simply keeping the streets plowed, including the city’s 85 miles of bike lanes (almost 30 miles of which were put down in the last two years). Bike racks on the front of every city bus make it easier for riders to combine different modes of transportation. “Winter’s just a fact of life in Wisconsin — it is what it is,” says Kristin Bennett, the city’s bicycle/pedestrian transportation coordinator. “People have the same travel needs no matter the time of the year.” While the city doesn’t have data on winter bikers — it’s working to install bike traffic counters this year — anecdotally, almost everyone agrees winter biking is on the rise. One innovation making winter biking easier is the popularity of fat tire bicycles — souped-up mountain bikes equipped to ride on snow-covered trails. There are five different bike companies in Wisconsin that now produce fat tire bikes. “It’s taken off,” Bennett says. “Everyone’s asking about them.” Sales of fat tire bikes, which range from $250 to $5,500 in price, totaled $8.8 million across the country last year, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. While he says overall winter business is currently slow at Crank Daddy’s Bicycle Works, co-owner Eric Kuhagen says more people have been buying winter gear and fat tire bikes than in past winters. Thick gloves and warm booties that go over shoes are among the top-selling items. “Riding your bike in any weather, it’s not about the weather, it’s about the proper gear,” Kuhagen says. “That’s true for any sport, not just cycling.” Milwaukee isn’t the only frigid Midwest city where bikers aren’t afraid of the winter. In her first proclamation in office last year, Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges named January 3rd “Winter Biking Day,” calling Minneapolis cyclists “tougher and much better looking than bicyclists from all those wimpier cities.” And this year, for the first time, the streets department in Calgary has been directed to clear priority cycling routes when snow falls. Not everyone is on board with the winter biking trend. “In the winter, it won’t even be used,” is a common refrain from many bike lane opponents. One upstate New York mayor suggested last year that winter bikers “should be arrested” because they’re putting others in danger. Schlabowske says it’s the opposite — while commuting to work on his bike, he has helped drivers push cars out of ditches by the side of the road. “I haven’t driven a car to work in 15 years,” he says. One small business taking advantage of the winter months is Flavor Cycle, a food delivery company that brings Milwaukeeans restaurant meals by bike. More orders come in as the temperature drops, and the company’s fleet of 18 contracted delivery people typically clock 30 to 40 miles every six-hour shift. “When one day you’re out in subzero windchill, and the next day it’s 10 degrees, 10 degrees feels fantastic,” says owner Peter DiAntoni. He also jumps in the saddle to make deliveries. “Once you’ve hit the hardest part, everything’s easier.” But like most winter bikers — and the rest of the city — Flavor Cycle will close shop during especially nasty snowstorms. “Everyone who’s doing this job loves it, they love the challenge,” DiAntoni says, but “we’re not martyring ourselves.” http://nextcity.org/daily/entry/riding-your-bike-in-the-snow-good-idea-bad-idea Note: Mercedes make/makes? bikes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] first car
My first car was a 1951 VW bug with the 1100cc 25hp engine and 120,000
miles. It burned/leaked a quart of oil a week, so I used the drained oil
from Dad's Cessna in it. I rebuilt a 1200cc engine from a later car ('62?)
and moved the body from the '51 chassis to the '62 chassis. I gained
synchromesh in the tranny as well as a more robust engine. I bought another
'51 for a parts car later. The first one was the deluxe model - it had
aluminum trim and hydraulic brakes. The second one was the standard model,
no trim and mechanical (cable) brakes.
Many years later we bought a '74 bus with a smashed front end, and a front
clip from a salvage yard and welded the two together. It was a great car
unless you needed heat or defrost, when it was worthless.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Those VW buses are worth sick money now.
--
OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] Biking in the Snow
As a kid I delivered newspapers riding a fat tired bicycle in the snow. Definitely more effort. Didn't have knobby tires. On Jan 30, 2015 3:40 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Studded tires??? The fat tired bikes interest me but I wonder how much more effort there is to using one? RB On 28/01/2015 7:05 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: For a growing community of winter cyclists in Milwaukee, this sounds like the perfect weather to bring out the bike. Year-round cycling is on the rise in the Midwest city — where winter lows can go south of zero. It’s a trend that debunks critics around the country who say bike lanes will only be used in fair weather. Dave Schlabowske, deputy director at the Wisconsin Bike Federation, says he’s seen a drastic change in the last 15 years that he’s been biking to work through the winter. “Back then, if I saw somebody I didn’t know biking in February, I’d email the six other people I knew who biked in the winter and tell them about it,” he says. “Now I see people out there all the time.” In snowy months, the city government’s top priority for helping bikers is simply keeping the streets plowed, including the city’s 85 miles of bike lanes (almost 30 miles of which were put down in the last two years). Bike racks on the front of every city bus make it easier for riders to combine different modes of transportation. “Winter’s just a fact of life in Wisconsin — it is what it is,” says Kristin Bennett, the city’s bicycle/pedestrian transportation coordinator. “People have the same travel needs no matter the time of the year.” While the city doesn’t have data on winter bikers — it’s working to install bike traffic counters this year — anecdotally, almost everyone agrees winter biking is on the rise. One innovation making winter biking easier is the popularity of fat tire bicycles — souped-up mountain bikes equipped to ride on snow-covered trails. There are five different bike companies in Wisconsin that now produce fat tire bikes. “It’s taken off,” Bennett says. “Everyone’s asking about them.” Sales of fat tire bikes, which range from $250 to $5,500 in price, totaled $8.8 million across the country last year, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. While he says overall winter business is currently slow at Crank Daddy’s Bicycle Works, co-owner Eric Kuhagen says more people have been buying winter gear and fat tire bikes than in past winters. Thick gloves and warm booties that go over shoes are among the top-selling items. “Riding your bike in any weather, it’s not about the weather, it’s about the proper gear,” Kuhagen says. “That’s true for any sport, not just cycling.” Milwaukee isn’t the only frigid Midwest city where bikers aren’t afraid of the winter. In her first proclamation in office last year, Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges named January 3rd “Winter Biking Day,” calling Minneapolis cyclists “tougher and much better looking than bicyclists from all those wimpier cities.” And this year, for the first time, the streets department in Calgary has been directed to clear priority cycling routes when snow falls. Not everyone is on board with the winter biking trend. “In the winter, it won’t even be used,” is a common refrain from many bike lane opponents. One upstate New York mayor suggested last year that winter bikers “should be arrested” because they’re putting others in danger. Schlabowske says it’s the opposite — while commuting to work on his bike, he has helped drivers push cars out of ditches by the side of the road. “I haven’t driven a car to work in 15 years,” he says. One small business taking advantage of the winter months is Flavor Cycle, a food delivery company that brings Milwaukeeans restaurant meals by bike. More orders come in as the temperature drops, and the company’s fleet of 18 contracted delivery people typically clock 30 to 40 miles every six-hour shift. “When one day you’re out in subzero windchill, and the next day it’s 10 degrees, 10 degrees feels fantastic,” says owner Peter DiAntoni. He also jumps in the saddle to make deliveries. “Once you’ve hit the hardest part, everything’s easier.” But like most winter bikers — and the rest of the city — Flavor Cycle will close shop during especially nasty snowstorms. “Everyone who’s doing this job loves it, they love the challenge,” DiAntoni says, but “we’re not martyring ourselves.” http://nextcity.org/daily/entry/riding-your-bike-in-the-snow-good-idea-bad-idea Note: Mercedes make/makes? bikes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each
Re: [MBZ] first car? if it qualifies as a car
Cool! I always wanted to drive one of those, but have only seen them in passing. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Mike Gildea via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My first car was a hand me down from Germany. A 58 BMW Isetta 300cc, air cooled, single cylinder, 13HP, 4 speed in the left wall, reversed 4 speed shift, 1 front door, non synchro first gear, shared generator/starter, no gauges (other than speedo), pavement ripping max 55mph, and had a good working heater. 1st time I saw one is when we landed in Rhein Main, because the civillian air port was closed due to extreme fog. A 3 wheel Isetta came out on the flight path through the fog, front door opened, human looking alien said “follow me earthling” and the plane (TWA Connie) obediently followed the tiny alien to a secured military hangar to unload into busses. (area 51?) Everybody was talking about the weird creature with bug eyes. We all thought we had landed in some weird Rod Sterling “Twilight scene. Latter, we brought that 59 bug eyed Isetta back to USA. I learned to drive with that lefty backwards (reversed shift “H” pattern). Isetta is the car that saved BMW from bankruptcy in the mid to late 50s. The 300cc engine was a bmw motorcycle engine. No big V8s to race, just lawn mowers and go karts to pick on! Beat my Lambretta scooter once with the Isetta. Mike G now have its big brother, 2 wheeled vintage bmw r100rt twin air cooled cylinders. ___ -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Biking in the Snow
The current fat tired bikes I've seen have fatter tires than the ones I rode in the '40s which I would guess were the same size as the ones you rode delivering papers. I think they were called balloon tires back then. Gerry Dwight Giles wrote: As a kid I delivered newspapers riding a fat tired bicycle in the snow. Definitely more effort. Didn't have knobby tires. Randy Bennell wrote: Studded tires??? The fat tired bikes interest me but I wonder how much more effort there is to using one? RB For a growing community of winter cyclists in Milwaukee, this sounds like the perfect weather to bring out the bike. Year-round cycling is on the rise in the Midwest city — where winter lows can go south of zero. It’s a trend that debunks critics around the country who say bike lanes will only be used in fair weather. Dave Schlabowske, deputy director at the Wisconsin Bike Federation, says he’s seen a drastic change in the last 15 years that he’s been biking to work through the winter. “Back then, if I saw somebody I didn’t know biking in February, I’d email the six other people I knew who biked in the winter and tell them about it,” he says. “Now I see people out there all the time.” In snowy months, the city government’s top priority for helping bikers is simply keeping the streets plowed, including the city’s 85 miles of bike lanes (almost 30 miles of which were put down in the last two years). Bike racks on the front of every city bus make it easier for riders to combine different modes of transportation. “Winter’s just a fact of life in Wisconsin — it is what it is,” says Kristin Bennett, the city’s bicycle/pedestrian transportation coordinator. “People have the same travel needs no matter the time of the year.” While the city doesn’t have data on winter bikers — it’s working to install bike traffic counters this year — anecdotally, almost everyone agrees winter biking is on the rise. One innovation making winter biking easier is the popularity of fat tire bicycles — souped-up mountain bikes equipped to ride on snow-covered trails. There are five different bike companies in Wisconsin that now produce fat tire bikes. “It’s taken off,” Bennett says. “Everyone’s asking about them.” Sales of fat tire bikes, which range from $250 to $5,500 in price, totaled $8.8 million across the country last year, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. While he says overall winter business is currently slow at Crank Daddy’s Bicycle Works, co-owner Eric Kuhagen says more people have been buying winter gear and fat tire bikes than in past winters. Thick gloves and warm booties that go over shoes are among the top-selling items. “Riding your bike in any weather, it’s not about the weather, it’s about the proper gear,” Kuhagen says. “That’s true for any sport, not just cycling.” Milwaukee isn’t the only frigid Midwest city where bikers aren’t afraid of the winter. In her first proclamation in office last year, Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges named January 3rd “Winter Biking Day,” calling Minneapolis cyclists “tougher and much better looking than bicyclists from all those wimpier cities.” And this year, for the first time, the streets department in Calgary has been directed to clear priority cycling routes when snow falls. Not everyone is on board with the winter biking trend. “In the winter, it won’t even be used,” is a common refrain from many bike lane opponents. One upstate New York mayor suggested last year that winter bikers “should be arrested” because they’re putting others in danger. Schlabowske says it’s the opposite — while commuting to work on his bike, he has helped drivers push cars out of ditches by the side of the road. “I haven’t driven a car to work in 15 years,” he says. One small business taking advantage of the winter months is Flavor Cycle, a food delivery company that brings Milwaukeeans restaurant meals by bike. More orders come in as the temperature drops, and the company’s fleet of 18 contracted delivery people typically clock 30 to 40 miles every six-hour shift. “When one day you’re out in subzero windchill, and the next day it’s 10 degrees, 10 degrees feels fantastic,” says owner Peter DiAntoni. He also jumps in the saddle to make deliveries. “Once you’ve hit the hardest part, everything’s easier.” But like most winter bikers — and the rest of the city — Flavor Cycle will close shop during especially nasty snowstorms. “Everyone who’s doing this job loves it, they love the challenge,” DiAntoni says, but “we’re not martyring ourselves.” http://nextcity.org/daily/entry/riding-your-bike-in-the-snow-good-idea-bad-idea Note: Mercedes make/makes? bikes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
There is a lot to be said for driving a slow car as fast as it will go well, compared to a fast car that you can rarely exploit. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration. My 1972 200D (euro 115) is no speed demon, but most times at stop lights I'm seeing the cars behind me, not before. It's plenty fast enough. Stickshift, and geared for a top speed of 85 or so. -- Jim -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] first car? if it qualifies as a car
My first car was a hand me down from Germany. A 58 BMW Isetta 300cc, air cooled, single cylinder, 13HP, 4 speed in the left wall, reversed 4 speed shift, 1 front door, non synchro first gear, shared generator/starter, no gauges (other than speedo), pavement ripping max 55mph, and had a good working heater. 1st time I saw one is when we landed in Rhein Main, because the civillian air port was closed due to extreme fog. A 3 wheel Isetta came out on the flight path through the fog, front door opened, human looking alien said follow me earthling and the plane (TWA Connie) obediently followed the tiny alien to a secured military hangar to unload into busses. (area 51?) Everybody was talking about the weird creature with bug eyes. We all thought we had landed in some weird Rod Sterling Twilight scene. Latter, we brought that 59 bug eyed Isetta back to USA. I learned to drive with that lefty backwards (reversed shift H pattern). Isetta is the car that saved BMW from bankruptcy in the mid to late 50s. The 300cc engine was a bmw motorcycle engine. No big V8s to race, just lawn mowers and go karts to pick on! Beat my Lambretta scooter once with the Isetta. Mike G now have its big brother, 2 wheeled vintage bmw r100rt twin air cooled cylinders. Way cool! When I was maybe 14, my dad stopped at a car dealer. They had a used Isetta in the showroom. Dad was pretty enamored with it. I remember the paint and fit was so nice compared to 'mercun iron. We got in it and looked it all over, but not in the engine compartment. Very neat car. The forerunner of the smart car in many ways. I think if i'd have been driving age, Dad might have bought it. Never saw another until a few years ago at an antique car show. But I always remembered the Isetta. My big brother is an R75/5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] first car? if it qualifies as a car
My first car was a hand me down from Germany. A 58 BMW Isetta 300cc, air cooled, single cylinder, 13HP, 4 speed in the left wall, reversed 4 speed shift, 1 front door, non synchro first gear, shared generator/starter, no gauges (other than speedo), pavement ripping max 55mph, and had a good working heater. 1st time I saw one is when we landed in Rhein Main, because the civillian air port was closed due to extreme fog. A 3 wheel Isetta came out on the flight path through the fog, front door opened, human looking alien said “follow me earthling” and the plane (TWA Connie) obediently followed the tiny alien to a secured military hangar to unload into busses. (area 51?) Everybody was talking about the weird creature with bug eyes. We all thought we had landed in some weird Rod Sterling “Twilight scene. Latter, we brought that 59 bug eyed Isetta back to USA. I learned to drive with that lefty backwards (reversed shift “H” pattern). Isetta is the car that saved BMW from bankruptcy in the mid to late 50s. The 300cc engine was a bmw motorcycle engine. No big V8s to race, just lawn mowers and go karts to pick on! Beat my Lambretta scooter once with the Isetta. Mike G now have its big brother, 2 wheeled vintage bmw r100rt twin air cooled cylinders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hey Dimitri
Interesting thought. Not sure how to check for that either. My plan still is to replace that short hose under tstat housing. I bought it a little while ago from classic center but haven't gotten around to replacing it. I'm nevertheless using the car locally;) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 153241 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150130/0483c4f7/attachment.jpeg -- next part -- Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This guy's pickup acts just like the 240D did (does?). Wish I had his block flushing method available.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS_ja-EDHEAindex=3list=PL-5YzBia-1bmnkkT06GYLUG-F1g_rIj98 I wonder if something could gotten loose inside the engine on your 240D and is blocking the flow of coolant. I dunno what it could be or how to test for it but it seems like an interesting theory. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Tires
Run flats are a scam. They cost more, go flat more, and no one will patch or plug one. So you buy another whole overpriced tire every time you have a flat. And they are heavier rotating mass. All cost, no benefit. Everything gets new michelins except the 300tdt running hankooks for $85 a copy. They might be better tires than the michelins. I ran used tires for years. John McPhee wrote a nice essay about the place I used to go in Balto. On Jan 26, 2015 12:46 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Kinda related... I just called my local tire shop to get a set of hard to find 19 snows for, um, a newer car. Run flats, big ones, Pirellis, $1800 installed. Yikes! When I get quoted $100-150/tire for a nice set of 14 tires for my cars, I don't complain. Last set of 14 tires I bought for a '84 300SD was back in October... I ended up with a good deal on Generals for $95 and I'm very satisfied. That car did well on the way to work this morning on the local snow covered roads around here, left by the early part of the big storm on its way tonight. Jaime On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ok, OK I am a BAD person. Enough already. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What my grandmother used to call penny wise pound foolish. Once I got out of college I never sgain skimped on tires. In HS we used to get used ones from junk yard. Pre radial days. On Jan 26, 2015 3:33 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The most irritating $100 I ever saved was when I didn’t buy the Michelins. Just sayin’. On Jan 26, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I need to replace at least two tires and probably ALL 4 tires on my 2000 BMW 740iL. The tires on it are Michelins and they have been great tires. They were not new when I got the car, and I have put over 40,000 miles on the car. I am trying to figure out if it makes sense to buy 4 more moderately priced tires (i.e. not Michelins) or I can also buy 4 used michelins. The used Michelins have 9/32 tread on them (new is 10/32). So, they are barely used. I wonder if used Michelins are better than new cheaper tires. I don't want to replace them with 4 new Michelins, because for this style and size, its about $800. This car has 216,000 so I don't want to spend a ton it. AND in recent months I have put a new radiator in it, a new battery, new rear brakes, and replaced the passenger door lock/latch assembly for a total of about $850. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] first car? if it qualifies as a car
Isettas have gotten pricey as well - up to $45K for restored examples. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:44 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Cool! I always wanted to drive one of those, but have only seen them in passing. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Mike Gildea via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My first car was a hand me down from Germany. A 58 BMW Isetta 300cc, air cooled, single cylinder, 13HP, 4 speed in the left wall, reversed 4 speed shift, 1 front door, non synchro first gear, shared generator/starter, no gauges (other than speedo), pavement ripping max 55mph, and had a good working heater. 1st time I saw one is when we landed in Rhein Main, because the civillian air port was closed due to extreme fog. A 3 wheel Isetta came out on the flight path through the fog, front door opened, human looking alien said “follow me earthling” and the plane (TWA Connie) obediently followed the tiny alien to a secured military hangar to unload into busses. (area 51?) Everybody was talking about the weird creature with bug eyes. We all thought we had landed in some weird Rod Sterling “Twilight scene. Latter, we brought that 59 bug eyed Isetta back to USA. I learned to drive with that lefty backwards (reversed shift “H” pattern). Isetta is the car that saved BMW from bankruptcy in the mid to late 50s. The 300cc engine was a bmw motorcycle engine. No big V8s to race, just lawn mowers and go karts to pick on! Beat my Lambretta scooter once with the Isetta. Mike G now have its big brother, 2 wheeled vintage bmw r100rt twin air cooled cylinders. ___ -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] first car? if it qualifies as a car
The Isettas running around the University of Florida back then had four wheels; 2 in the back close together, and apparently without a differential although one wheel might have been rachetted. I tried one at the dealer, but there seemed to be something wrong with the shift linkage such that it was very difficult to change gears. They were popular with the students until one got hit from behind and went airborne over an intersection; landing in front of a furniture store. After that they gradually disappeared. Gerry Mike Gildea wrote: My first car was a hand me down from Germany. A 58 BMW Isetta 300cc, air cooled, single cylinder, 13HP, 4 speed in the left wall, reversed 4 speed shift, 1 front door, non synchro first gear, shared generator/starter, no gauges (other than speedo), pavement ripping max 55mph, and had a good working heater. 1st time I saw one is when we landed in Rhein Main, because the civillian air port was closed due to extreme fog. A 3 wheel Isetta came out on the flight path through the fog, front door opened, human looking alien said “follow me earthling” and the plane (TWA Connie) obediently followed the tiny alien to a secured military hangar to unload into busses. (area 51?) Everybody was talking about the weird creature with bug eyes. We all thought we had landed in some weird Rod Sterling “Twilight scene. Latter, we brought that 59 bug eyed Isetta back to USA. I learned to drive with that lefty backwards (reversed shift “H” pattern). Isetta is the car that saved BMW from bankruptcy in the mid to late 50s. The 300cc engine was a bmw motorcycle engine. No big V8s to race, just lawn mowers and go karts to pick on! Beat my Lambretta scooter once with the Isetta. Mike G now have its big brother, 2 wheeled vintage bmw r100rt twin air cooled cylinders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4273/9028 - Release Date: 01/30/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
Have you seen what W123 window switches cost these days? I do agree with you, however. The 15 bundts are half the value of the car. I had 15 steelies on my W123 LWB and the difference in ride, ride height and handling was amazing. Dan On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of dumb a** wouldn't replace the switches so 3 of the 4 windows would work again. It must have some other major problem... On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897 Dan On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in December with 100k miles on it. The body has had its share of paint and repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is wonderful. Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from 1998-2001. Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are. Every bit of acceleration seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality. Very satisfying. You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the road and be more aware of your surroundings. It makes you a better driver. I love the simplicity of the car. Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual everything, no sunroof. Big options on the car are AC and the automatic. I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out every hp I could. Its really lovely to drive. Here are some crummy pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month: http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/ I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term. But, they're getting pretty impossible to find these days. Jaime On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] first car
Those VW buses are worth sick money now. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Folks The first car i ever drove was about a 1945 jeep out in the mountains of Colorado. I learned to drive mostly on a 1951 plymouth which my father bought new and i still have in the field. MY first car was a 1962 VW bus. I bought it for $50 and rebuilt the engine myself. I got stuck with driving and repairing air cooled vw cars for the next 15 years or so. xx rick hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] first car
Theres a bunch of aircooled VWs around my place now. Guy at the end of the street has a Bug and an early bus. He's been working on the bus since we moved in almost 9 years ago. He's got the first paint on it now and the engine runs so the end is in sight.Around the corner theres what appears to be a parts and restoration shop, they've got probably 10 Bugs, a Type 3, a Safari (the Thing) and a couple busses. I haven't stopped in to say hi yet but I probably should. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] first car Those VW buses are worth sick money now. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Folks The first car i ever drove was about a 1945 jeep out in the mountains of Colorado. I learned to drive mostly on a 1951 plymouth which my father bought new and i still have in the field. MY first car was a 1962 VW bus. I bought it for $50 and rebuilt the engine myself. I got stuck with driving and repairing air cooled vw cars for the next 15 years or so. xx rick hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
That's why I have crank windows;) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you seen what W123 window switches cost these days? I do agree with you, however. The 15 bundts are half the value of the car. I had 15 steelies on my W123 LWB and the difference in ride, ride height and handling was amazing. Dan On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of dumb a** wouldn't replace the switches so 3 of the 4 windows would work again. It must have some other major problem... On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897 Dan On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in December with 100k miles on it. The body has had its share of paint and repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is wonderful. Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from 1998-2001. Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are. Every bit of acceleration seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality. Very satisfying. You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the road and be more aware of your surroundings. It makes you a better driver. I love the simplicity of the car. Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual everything, no sunroof. Big options on the car are AC and the automatic. I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out every hp I could. Its really lovely to drive. Here are some crummy pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month: http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/ I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term. But, they're getting pretty impossible to find these days. Jaime On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
I have a bin full of working window switches. Make me an offer. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:40 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's why I have crank windows;) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have you seen what W123 window switches cost these days? I do agree with you, however. The 15 bundts are half the value of the car. I had 15 steelies on my W123 LWB and the difference in ride, ride height and handling was amazing. Dan On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of dumb a** wouldn't replace the switches so 3 of the 4 windows would work again. It must have some other major problem... On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897 Dan On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in December with 100k miles on it. The body has had its share of paint and repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is wonderful. Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from 1998-2001. Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are. Every bit of acceleration seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality. Very satisfying. You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the road and be more aware of your surroundings. It makes you a better driver. I love the simplicity of the car. Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual everything, no sunroof. Big options on the car are AC and the automatic. I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out every hp I could. Its really lovely to drive. Here are some crummy pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month: http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/ I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term. But, they're getting pretty impossible to find these days. Jaime On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] first car
So what is the optimal air temperature for an air cooled VW bug? Absolute zero? On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Theres a bunch of aircooled VWs around my place now. Guy at the end of the street has a Bug and an early bus. He's been working on the bus since we moved in almost 9 years ago. He's got the first paint on it now and the engine runs so the end is in sight.Around the corner theres what appears to be a parts and restoration shop, they've got probably 10 Bugs, a Type 3, a Safari (the Thing) and a couple busses. I haven't stopped in to say hi yet but I probably should. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] first car Those VW buses are worth sick money now. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Folks The first car i ever drove was about a 1945 jeep out in the mountains of Colorado. I learned to drive mostly on a 1951 plymouth which my father bought new and i still have in the field. MY first car was a 1962 VW bus. I bought it for $50 and rebuilt the engine myself. I got stuck with driving and repairing air cooled vw cars for the next 15 years or so. xx rick hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] first car
There's a guy on Wadmalaw who restores old buses, he usually has 3 or 4 f them sitting around. He and his wife started making really nice copper light fixtures when he lost his job a few years back, and sell them for big money. --R On 1/30/15 9:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Theres a bunch of aircooled VWs around my place now. Guy at the end of the street has a Bug and an early bus. He's been working on the bus since we moved in almost 9 years ago. He's got the first paint on it now and the engine runs so the end is in sight.Around the corner theres what appears to be a parts and restoration shop, they've got probably 10 Bugs, a Type 3, a Safari (the Thing) and a couple busses. I haven't stopped in to say hi yet but I probably should. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] first car Those VW buses are worth sick money now. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Folks The first car i ever drove was about a 1945 jeep out in the mountains of Colorado. I learned to drive mostly on a 1951 plymouth which my father bought new and i still have in the field. MY first car was a 1962 VW bus. I bought it for $50 and rebuilt the engine myself. I got stuck with driving and repairing air cooled vw cars for the next 15 years or so. xx rick hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] First Cars
Well, yes a four wheel drive would be handy. But, if I found a super nice K10, I'm not sure I would drive it in the snow! Donald H. Snook Snook Law LLC 5020 E. Central Ave Suite A Wichita, Kansas 67208 T: 316-512-5608 E: d...@snooklawllc.com This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars You and me both although I actually want a K20 although I'd take a K10 in a pinch. :) Looking on Craigslist for Las Vegas there are lots of C10s and a few K10s. Also quite a few of each in the pacific northwest. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars I have wanted a 68-72 Chevy C10 or GMC for a long time. I went to an auto show a few weeks ago here in town and there was an orange one (I think it was a 1970) and it was totally stock original and perfect! It had 19,000 miles. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:43 PM To: Ed Booher; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars I had a hand me down from my father to start with (a 64 Anglia) but the 1st one I bought was a 65 Mustang. It was Rangoon Red with a Red interior. It's orginal color had been cream but it had been painted red by the time I got it. It was a 6 cylinder with a 3 speed manual transmission. A nice little car that made good mileage. I only kept it a year or two and swapped it for a 68 Cougar with a 289 and automatic. It was Red with a Black interior. I do sort of wish I had kept either or both of them. I had the 68 C10 that I commented on a week or so back for the longest time, and sometimes wonder if I should have hung onto it too. I cannot think of another vehicle I have had that I wish I had kept. If I had an acreage with a barn that I could store things in, it might be different. I live in a city on a small lot and have to limit myself here. I could take things out to the lake but parking is somewhat limited there to and the environment is probably more harsh there to to the moisture from the lake. Oh, Well, cannot have it all . . . RB On 29/01/2015 2:32 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes wrote: My first car, 1966 Ford Mustang, 289 4 bbl V8. Blue with blue interior. That car was fun. I regularly kick myself when I think about it, should never have sold that car. EdB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] First Cars
That is cool! It looks like it has done its duty. Was that an original wood bed? -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:00 PM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Cars On 29/01/2015 4:48 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: I have wanted a 68-72 Chevy C10 or GMC for a long time. I went to an auto show a few weeks ago here in town and there was an orange one (I think it was a 1970) and it was totally stock original and perfect! It had 19,000 miles. Don Snook Here is mine not long before I sold it. I had it some where around 24 years. I think we got it in the spring of 1986. We sold it somewhere around 2010 or 2011 - time flies so not sure how long ago? I could find the dates if I looked but it is not truly important to this discussion. My elder son was born in December 1984 and I remember him riding in a car seat between us when he was quite small so that probably makes it 1986 when we got it. I had to add a seatbelt as it only came with 2. A long time in any event. I tend to keep vehicles for a long time but that it the longest one so far. Although it is hard to believe that I have had my old MB for almost 10 years. I think I got it in July 2005. RB http://s131.photobucket.com/user/oldsub86/media/632_zpsec03bafe.jpg.html http://s131.photobucket.com/user/oldsub86/media/628_zps91ad0bcd.jpg.html http://s131.photobucket.com/user/oldsub86/media/639_zps9ce3a078.jpg.html http://s131.photobucket.com/user/oldsub86/media/371_zpsd3beeb25.jpg.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (MBZ) '84 300D multi-purpose stalk
That wasn't G: who wrote that. I know about Uro parts and wouldn't touch them. Gerry fmiser wrote: G. wrote: what's the list's consensus regarding URO products? What!??!?? Are you really asking that? Check the archive. Or read the list occasionally. The opinion is Run!!! Run away!!! URO products would not be worth it if all you had to pay for was the shipping. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4273/9017 - Release Date: 01/28/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (MBZ) '84 300D multi-purpose stalk
Oooh, if the TV fails you can use the lens to make the lens of death or a solar cooker, whichever you prefer. :) A friend of mine got his up over 700F (the limit of our measuring technology) on an average New England spring day. -Curt From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (MBZ) '84 300D multi-purpose stalk Original Message From: Mountain Man via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mountain Man Subject: Re: [MBZ] (MBZ) '84 300D multi-purpose stalk Rick wrote: I would not use them if they were free... WITH free shipping... You don't love your color tv? I have a MIJ Mitsubishi 65 projection TV I got from FreeCycle for free. I watch maybe an hour of television a week (OTA), not including youtube snippets of PJ TV, Truth Revolt Originals, and Mercedes Source stuff. What does that have to do with cheap, inferior Chinese parts...? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] First Cars
My first car was a '46 Dodge panel truck with a cloth roof that always leaked. I put a bed in the back with the idea of sleeping in it during college semesters but got married; which entitled me to cheap campus married housing. There was only one seat, so I built a small box with a pad on top for passengers who had to lean back on a 2+2 upright. Not many girls I knew would ride in it, and some were suspicious of the bed in the back, but my wife rode in it during our year of courtship, so it must have been true love. I had installed an old gas jet in the dash and connected it to the water pump under the hood. The idea was to have hot water for shaving while going to school. If you opened it with the engine at highway speed, it would shoot hot water all the way to the back of the truck. Needless to say, some of my curious friends turned on the valve without asking and got warmly christened. My future wife and I were cruising through downtown Tampa on Franklin street one night when I heard a squeal. She had turned on the valve and became so panicked, she didn't turn it off. I cut the engine and coasted to the side of the street. That was the first time she had ever gotten completely furious at me, so I was glad our marriage would soon take place since she might change her mind if she tangled with any more of my inventions. After marriage we traded the truck for a late model '52 Chevy which lasted a long time. Gerry Dan Penoff wrote: My first car was a 1970 Ford Maverick two door with the inline 6, 170 ci, the smallest displacement version of that engine. Had a three on the tree with worn out bushings that made shifting a search every time you went to shift. I owned it about 6-8 months before I lost control on some ice on a really nasty curve on the road we lived on. Went over a large rock before striking a tree. The rock literally tore the front suspension out. Had an AM radio and heat. That was the extent of the amenities. I did install an under dash Radio Shack cassette deck. Ironically, the wife had a four door version of the exact same year and model when I met her. We had that car for years. You couldn't kill it, and even the absolute worst winter weather wouldn't keep it from starting. It was so dead reliable that I refused to touch the ignition system the whole time we owned it, for fear that I would upset the balance and somehow jinx the reliability. I put plugs and wires on it, and probably caps and rotors, but I never touched the points other than to clean them up. We sold it to someone she worked with, and their kid(s) drove the car for a number of years after that. Dan On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My first two cars were both 1950 DeSotos with the semi-automatic transmission. Bought one for $89 and sold it for $75, the other for $20 and then junked it for $0. One broke down on Boylston street in Bahston during rush hour; the other gave up the ghost during the particularly brutal Minneapolis winter of '68... I can't think of anything nice to say about either one, except that they were IMPOSSIBLE to stall. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Kaleb's email about wanting a car like his first car got me thinking about my first car. My first car was a 1978 Oldsmobile Delta 88. It was light metallic blue. It was my older brother's car and he was going to sell it or trade it in. I ended up buying it from him. It had the crappy 260 V8 and it was worn out. We called it the Snookmobile. My brother called it the living room on wheels. It had a whole bunch of problems. The headliner sagged, so in my 16 year old wisdom, I staple gunned it back up. It took about 800 staples! The exhaust had a hole in it and if you opened the passenger door, exhaust would poor in. If the car was parked with the nose downhill, the horn would come through the rear speakers. If you pressed the cigarette lighter in, it would shoot out onto the passengers lap. It required a quart of oil every three days. By the end of its tenure, it was a quart every day and a pint of power steering fluid. The little knobs on the window cranks were all broken, so it took forever to raise or lower the windows. One Spring break in High School I decided I wanted to visit my father in Mississippi. He bought new tires for the car. I made it about 65 miles out of town when it blew a hose. I think it also blew a headgasket. I drove it for a few more months and anytime I drove it over 15 minutes, it would overheat. Finally, I traded it in to my Uncle who had a small car lot. He gave me a very generous $450 dollars for it. He took the new tires off, and the trailer hitch, and junked it. Even though it had a lot of problems, I loved it. Of course, what 16 year
Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
That’s a lovely car, Jaime. On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ok, I'm ready. I'll probably list it this weekend for $5k Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
