Re: [MBZ] Pleb's Project Car

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Where is the car again?  Memphis?  Have you agreed on a price? $500?

--R

On 1/27/16 4:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

In picking it up this weekend so we shall see.

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On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yeah, I would agree. The seller is misrepresenting the fact that the harnesses 
go through the firewall and continue on somewhere into the car. Suggesting that 
all you need is the engine harness is wrong. You either need a whole new set of 
harnesses that come from the engine compartment and go through the firewall, or 
you're going to be butt splicing a poopload of wires on the other side.

Dan

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On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

replacing all those wiring harnesses will require stripping the car to bare 
metal, or nearly so.  Based on the time it is taking me to deal with melted 
insulation in POSitive, you are better off to scrap it.  Put the engine in a 
wilton type rodbender.  It'll take less time and money.  You guys shoulda 
jumped on Wilton's car.  Easier and cheaper.

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook -- no, iMac

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I've got one I'm about ready to throw out the window...

I reinstalled the TM backup on the thing onto the new HDD, still no 
worky the OS was pretty much locking up on startup or shortly after.  I 
managed to do a diagnostic and it showed (only) the memory was OK (these 
were new memory sticks I put in a year or two ago) but it was still 
hanging up. Reinstalled the OS (10.6.4 on the DVD) fresh after a few 
false starts, still was hanging, then tried to update to 10.6.8 which 
was on the TM reinstall.  That got hung up trying to run it off a USB 
stick.  So then I tried to install the OS on the SSD and it just hung 
up.  I'm thinking at this point that the mobo has some serious gork 
issues but I'm not sure how to diagnostics on that part of the system as 
the startup D option only did a memory check.


I might take it into the apple genii next week and see if they can do a 
deeper diagnostic on it, find out if the board is gorked or what.  Note 
that this was pretty much what it was doing before I changed the HDD 
out, though the diagnostics at that point said it was overheating.  It 
has worked OK in an external box.


--R



On 1/27/16 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:

For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" IMac
with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and whistles?  I
was looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old and overpriced:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1

It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft bundle
of word, excel, power point.

For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple
refurb store. I am skeptical...



On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Gerry,

Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The
only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t
tell the difference between new and refurb.

In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their
computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy
AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.

MacDan




On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would

like to sell?

Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
Apples website didn't say that they did.

Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:

For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" IMac
with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and whistles?  I
was looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old and overpriced:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1

It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft bundle
of word, excel, power point.

For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple
refurb store. I am skeptical...



On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Gerry,
>
> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The
> only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t
> tell the difference between new and refurb.
>
> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their
> computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy
> AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.
>
> MacDan
>
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would
> like to sell?
> >
> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
> > Apples website didn't say that they did.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 300D 81k miles $3500

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 06:37:24 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:


 This looks like a really nice deal, if the mileage is legit.

 
 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300D 4dr Turbodiesel Sedan  DIESEL
 http://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/5397804092.html
 


Determining if it has the newer head (22?) is easy. How do you determine
if the mileage is legit?

Craig


A carfax might give you a clue.  If it had regular stealer service, you'd know.

If it last had stealer service 10 years ago at 131,735 miles, you 
will also know. something else.


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[MBZ] 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles $3000

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5421195913.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
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Re: [MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I only said that to draw you out of hibernation.  I LOVE W113 SLs -
especially in tobacco brown.  ;)

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  wrote:

> Hmmm. The w113 is not boring. Quite a lovely and fun car to drive
> especially with a 4 speed manual. And have you heard the exhaust note?
>
> Now as far as styling goes, the w113 is gorgeous with clean, elegant,
> timeless lines. The 190SL is a clown like caricature of the gullwing.
>
> Now on build quality; the w113 is incredibly well built. The quality of
> the interior, for example, is next to none.
>
> I have owned one for 19 years. Believe me, I know this car.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't recall cheap W121s since the early 1980s, but I remember an
> employer
> > asking something like $7500 for an ugly brown (but perfect condition)
> 280SL
> > Pagoda in 1988 and I thought it overpriced and boring. (and 35 years
> ago, cheap
> > for a W121 meant it cost as much as a 914 Porch)
> >
> > I agree with Andrew on the W113, it's boring.
> > But, IMO, the W121 190SL was an attractive car, as least as much so as a
> > 1958-1962 Corvette.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >> On January 27, 2016 at 1:01 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Stupid money. If you're referring to the 190SLs of the late 50s/early
> 60s, I
> >> can recall from the late 90s when they were going for pennies on the
> dollar
> >> and most were rusty, Flintstone cars.
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Re: [MBZ] Pleb's Project Car

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Wow, you are quite the wheeler dealer.  let us know what sorts.

--R

On 1/27/16 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Yes

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On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

Where is the car again?  Memphis?  Have you agreed on a price? $500?

--R


On 1/27/16 4:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
In picking it up this weekend so we shall see.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yeah, I would agree. The seller is misrepresenting the fact that the harnesses 
go through the firewall and continue on somewhere into the car. Suggesting that 
all you need is the engine harness is wrong. You either need a whole new set of 
harnesses that come from the engine compartment and go through the firewall, or 
you're going to be butt splicing a poopload of wires on the other side.

Dan

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On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

replacing all those wiring harnesses will require stripping the car to bare 
metal, or nearly so.  Based on the time it is taking me to deal with melted 
insulation in POSitive, you are better off to scrap it.  Put the engine in a 
wilton type rodbender.  It'll take less time and money.  You guys shoulda 
jumped on Wilton's car.  Easier and cheaper.

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Yes, the refurbs come with an OS.  You could call apple to verify 
which OS is on it.



Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they 
would like to sell?


Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
Apples website didn't say that they did.

Thanks,
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Pleb's Project Car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Where should I send the invoice for my finder’s fee?

Dan



> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Pleb's Project Car

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Jabba over in Lakeland.

On 1/27/2016 6:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Where should I send the invoice for my finder’s fee?

Dan




On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
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Re: [MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Hmmm. The w113 is not boring. Quite a lovely and fun car to drive especially 
with a 4 speed manual. And have you heard the exhaust note? 

Now as far as styling goes, the w113 is gorgeous with clean, elegant, timeless 
lines. The 190SL is a clown like caricature of the gullwing.

Now on build quality; the w113 is incredibly well built. The quality of the 
interior, for example, is next to none. 

I have owned one for 19 years. Believe me, I know this car.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't recall cheap W121s since the early 1980s, but I remember an employer
> asking something like $7500 for an ugly brown (but perfect condition) 280SL
> Pagoda in 1988 and I thought it overpriced and boring. (and 35 years ago, 
> cheap
> for a W121 meant it cost as much as a 914 Porch)
> 
> I agree with Andrew on the W113, it's boring. 
> But, IMO, the W121 190SL was an attractive car, as least as much so as a
> 1958-1962 Corvette. 
> 
> Mitch. 
> 
>> On January 27, 2016 at 1:01 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Stupid money. If you're referring to the 190SLs of the late 50s/early 60s, I
>> can recall from the late 90s when they were going for pennies on the dollar
>> and most were rusty, Flintstone cars.
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Re: [MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Well, you accomplished that! And if I recall correctly, you were in the market 
for one recently!
Have you seen our French friend lately? Haven't had contact since October I 
think.
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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I only said that to draw you out of hibernation.  I LOVE W113 SLs - 
> especially in tobacco brown.  ;)
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Hmmm. The w113 is not boring. Quite a lovely and fun car to drive especially 
>> with a 4 speed manual. And have you heard the exhaust note?
>> 
>> Now as far as styling goes, the w113 is gorgeous with clean, elegant, 
>> timeless lines. The 190SL is a clown like caricature of the gullwing.
>> 
>> Now on build quality; the w113 is incredibly well built. The quality of the 
>> interior, for example, is next to none.
>> 
>> I have owned one for 19 years. Believe me, I know this car.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't recall cheap W121s since the early 1980s, but I remember an 
>> > employer
>> > asking something like $7500 for an ugly brown (but perfect condition) 280SL
>> > Pagoda in 1988 and I thought it overpriced and boring. (and 35 years ago, 
>> > cheap
>> > for a W121 meant it cost as much as a 914 Porch)
>> >
>> > I agree with Andrew on the W113, it's boring.
>> > But, IMO, the W121 190SL was an attractive car, as least as much so as a
>> > 1958-1962 Corvette.
>> >
>> > Mitch.
>> >
>> >> On January 27, 2016 at 1:01 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Stupid money. If you're referring to the 190SLs of the late 50s/early 
>> >> 60s, I
>> >> can recall from the late 90s when they were going for pennies on the 
>> >> dollar
>> >> and most were rusty, Flintstone cars.
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Re: [MBZ] My New Project

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Thanks for the vote of confidence.  I have never worked on anything this
new...other than replacing the radiator fan on my CLK 350 (which I'd love
to get rid of).

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

> Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:
> For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27"  
.. For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple 
refurb store. I am skeptical...
~~~
Here's an example for around $800. You have to keep checking until the MacBook 
you want appears. Then, you have to buy it fast before it's sold out.
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5

http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?afid=p238|lkYTVTUR-dc_mtid_1870765e38482_pcrid_9310821851_=aos-us-kwm-mac

I bought one for $800 several years ago, played with it a while, and then gave 
it to my granddaughter. After a trip to the Apple Store in Orlando to fix 
problems with the Snow Leopard OS, it worked well and has had no further 
problems. I had tried to load Snow Leopard, but there was some sort of problem; 
possibly with the disk.


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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They will have the current OS on them (El Capitan OSX 10.11).  Here are some 
nice 13” MacBook Pros for a little over $800:

http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

Plenty of computer that would last for a long, long time.

Dan




> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, the refurbs come with an OS.  You could call apple to verify which OS is 
> on it.
> 
> 
>> Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would like 
>> to sell?
>> 
>> Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
>> Apples website didn't say that they did.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 300D 81k miles $3500

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You need this car Craig, it is calling your name...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 27, 2016 7:08:27 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 06:37:24 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> This looks like a really nice deal, if the mileage is legit.
>>
>> 
>> 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300D 4dr Turbodiesel Sedan  DIESEL
>> http://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/5397804092.html
>> 
>
>Determining if it has the newer head (22?) is easy. How do you
>determine
>if the mileage is legit?
>
>
>Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Pleb's Project Car

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

In picking it up this weekend so we shall see.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I would agree. The seller is misrepresenting the fact that the 
> harnesses go through the firewall and continue on somewhere into the car. 
> Suggesting that all you need is the engine harness is wrong. You either need 
> a whole new set of harnesses that come from the engine compartment and go 
> through the firewall, or you're going to be butt splicing a poopload of wires 
> on the other side.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> replacing all those wiring harnesses will require stripping the car to bare 
>> metal, or nearly so.  Based on the time it is taking me to deal with melted 
>> insulation in POSitive, you are better off to scrap it.  Put the engine in a 
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>> jumped on Wilton's car.  Easier and cheaper.
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Auction fun

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I rented a scuzuki viagra in chile once. Small but serviceable. 

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On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:43 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
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Returning this week:

2001 E320 wagon.
the SLK, yes, again
190D 2.3

New victims
white E320 probably 2010 or newer
C300probably 2010 or newer
GLK

I drove the wagon through the auction.  255k miles.  $600 high bid. Probably a 
no sale.  It has on airbag (SRS), ABS, antiskid lights. That could get pretty 
expensive.  Sounded like a rear axle bearing going out.   There was something 
weird in the center console.  I think it had a swing up cover but did not have 
time to investigate. whatever it was, the inside of this box was coated with 
what looked like white yeast growth.  Maybe it would clean up ok, but I didn't 
want to stick my finger into whatever it was.  It could have been highly 
oxidized aluminum.

The GLK looked nice.  I have liked them since 2009, when i first saw one on the 
road outside the factory in AL.  I think they were aimed at the toada RAV.  Too 
bad they dropped the one newish vehicle I would not mind owning.


Most stuff today was junk.  One toada was a jail cell.  once i drive it through 
the auction, i could not get out.  Both inside door handles were broken out 
completely.  I finally had to put the window down and open the door from the 
outside.  The the window would not go up again.

The one POS BMW ragtop was back again.  Today the window was down and had a 
garbage sack taped over it.

The most interesting thing I drove was a Scuzuki XL-7.  The seat was really 
nice, it sits nice, with good visibility, and comfort.  It had 200k and was 
pretty decent, where the nissans with 150k are all clapped out and many of the 
toadas and hondogs, frods, shoveys, and dogdes have a lot of broken stuff at 
175k.   My only prior exposure to a scuzuki was the samuri my cousin had long 
ago.  He liked his, but the samuris I saw were pretty much ready for the 
crusher at 50k miles.

I was surprised that I liked it.  I would not buy one, because it has no 
advantage over a grand caravan for the same fuel cost.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehmk45him/suzuki-xl7/
http://www.edmunds.com/suzuki/xl-7/

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[MBZ] cheaper Craig project

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http://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/5371643044.html

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Actually, I want the big screen 27: IMac, not the Macbook Pro (I have one
already),  These start at $1439.00

http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/imac/27

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> Good choice.  I’m sure you’ll be pleased.  Let us know when it arrives.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dan Penoff wrote:
> >> They will have the current OS on them (El Capitan OSX 10.11).  Here are
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> >> http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac
> >> Plenty of computer that would last for a long, long time.
> >> Dan
> > ~~
> > Thanks. Just now ordered one.
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Re: [MBZ] 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles $3000

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 21:27:10 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> I sorta wondered that myself…the Virginia license plate on the front
> gave me pause.

That and the, "I need to sell it ASAP because I'm going overseas ..."


Craig

> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
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> > 
> > Fits the SCAM template
> > 
> >> 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles
> >> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5421195913.html
> >> 
> >> via cPro for Craigslist
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Re: [MBZ] 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles $3000

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I sorta wondered that myself…the Virginia license plate on the front gave me 
pause.

Dan


> On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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> Fits the SCAM template
> 
>> 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles
>> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5421195913.html
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Re: [MBZ] Pleb's Project Car

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Jabba moved to Lakeland?
Gerry

"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Jabba over in Lakeland.
> 
> On 1/27/2016 6:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Where should I send the invoice for my finder’s fee?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good choice.  I’m sure you’ll be pleased.  Let us know when it arrives.

Dan


> On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
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> 
> Dan Penoff wrote:
>> They will have the current OS on them (El Capitan OSX 10.11).  Here are some 
>> nice 13” MacBook Pros for a little over $800:
>> http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac
>> Plenty of computer that would last for a long, long time.
>> Dan
> ~~
> Thanks. Just now ordered one.
> Gerry 
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[MBZ] Oh Dan!

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[MBZ] M104 W140

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http://hattiesburg.craigslist.org/cto/5384839049.html

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 300D 81k miles $3500

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 20:19:27 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You need this car Craig, it is calling your name...

Maybe, but at this distance it's rather faint ...  :-)


Craig


> >> This looks like a really nice deal, if the mileage is legit.
> >>
> >> 
> >> 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300D 4dr Turbodiesel Sedan  DIESEL
> >> http://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/5397804092.html
> >> 

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Re: [MBZ] Posting pictures to the list

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Windows is surprisingly easy too.  
Select the picture file(s) you want to send; 
Right click on it/them to open a drop-down list;
Select "send to";
Select "email recipient";
And then select the desired resolution.

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> Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 10:08 AM
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> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Posting pictures to the list
> 
> I can't speak for Windoze or 'nix email clients, but Apple Mail gives you
> several choices of sizes when you attach pictures to a message. If you use
> Apple Mail you can see this feature with the attachment highlighted -
there
> will be a small drop down menu in the lower right portion of the message
> header that gives you 3-4 choices of sizes for the attachment.
> 
> Dan
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> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>  wrote:
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> > It never crossed my mind to make it smaller. I'm not wired to think of
> > those things. Going forward, I'll be aware of stuff like that.
> >
> > It's good to learn something every day.
> >
> > Bob R
> > On Jan 27, 2016 7:53 AM, "Jim Cathey via Mercedes"
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So what is the problem  with Bob's picture posting? Looks fine to me.
> >>
> >> My e-mailer appeared to be frozen for 30 seconds while it downloaded
> >> that monster.  That's long enough to consider rebooting the thing,
> >> with no apparent signs of life...
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 300D 81k miles $3500

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 06:37:24 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
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> This looks like a really nice deal, if the mileage is legit.
>
> 
> 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300D 4dr Turbodiesel Sedan  DIESEL
> http://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/5397804092.html
> 

Determining if it has the newer head (22?) is easy. How do you determine
if the mileage is legit?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

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Try this link or look around at www.apple.com

http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/imac
~
Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Actually, I want the big screen 27: IMac, not the Macbook Pro (I have one
> already),  These start at $1439.00
> http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/imac/27
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> > Good choice.  I’m sure you’ll be pleased.  Let us know when it arrives.
> > Dan

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> > >> http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac
> > >> Plenty of computer that would last for a long, long time.
> > >> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

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Thanks, Curly. Just ordered one.
Gerry

Curly McLain wrote:
> Yes, the refurbs come with an OS.  You could call apple to verify 
> which OS is on it.
> 
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> >Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they 
> >would like to sell?
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> >Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
> >Apples website didn't say that they did.
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Re: [MBZ] 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles $3000

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Fits the SCAM template


1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5421195913.html

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

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Dan Penoff wrote:
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> nice 13” MacBook Pros for a little over $800:
> http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac
> Plenty of computer that would last for a long, long time.
> Dan
~~
Thanks. Just now ordered one.
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[MBZ] A deal for Rich

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http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/cto/5421288004.html

these, plus your TD might make a good car.

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[MBZ] Craig car?

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http://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/5405090668.html

only 176k miles.  appears to be non-rusty.  good colors.  neglected

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[MBZ] kleb car

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Re: [MBZ] A deal for Rich

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

300TD sans engine??  What's the point?

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Auction fun

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I rented a scuzuki viagra in chile once. Small but serviceable.

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Did it get you up there?



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Re: [MBZ] 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles $3000

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Nice looking W140.  Too bad it’s a six cylinder.

Dan


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[MBZ] Auction fun

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Returning this week:

2001 E320 wagon.
the SLK, yes, again
190D 2.3

New victims
white E320 probably 2010 or newer
C300probably 2010 or newer
GLK

I drove the wagon through the auction.  255k miles.  $600 high bid. 
Probably a no sale.  It has on airbag (SRS), ABS, antiskid lights. 
That could get pretty expensive.  Sounded like a rear axle bearing 
going out.   There was something weird in the center console.  I 
think it had a swing up cover but did not have time to investigate. 
whatever it was, the inside of this box was coated with what looked 
like white yeast growth.  Maybe it would clean up ok, but I didn't 
want to stick my finger into whatever it was.  It could have been 
highly oxidized aluminum.


The GLK looked nice.  I have liked them since 2009, when i first saw 
one on the road outside the factory in AL.  I think they were aimed 
at the toada RAV.  Too bad they dropped the one newish vehicle I 
would not mind owning.



Most stuff today was junk.  One toada was a jail cell.  once i drive 
it through the auction, i could not get out.  Both inside door 
handles were broken out completely.  I finally had to put the window 
down and open the door from the outside.  The the window would not go 
up again.


The one POS BMW ragtop was back again.  Today the window was down and 
had a garbage sack taped over it.


The most interesting thing I drove was a Scuzuki XL-7.  The seat was 
really nice, it sits nice, with good visibility, and comfort.  It had 
200k and was pretty decent, where the nissans with 150k are all 
clapped out and many of the toadas and hondogs, frods, shoveys, and 
dogdes have a lot of broken stuff at 175k.   My only prior exposure 
to a scuzuki was the samuri my cousin had long ago.  He liked his, 
but the samuris I saw were pretty much ready for the crusher at 50k 
miles.


I was surprised that I liked it.  I would not buy one, because it has 
no advantage over a grand caravan for the same fuel cost.


http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehmk45him/suzuki-xl7/
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Re: [MBZ] Pleb's Project Car

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes 

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Where is the car again?  Memphis?  Have you agreed on a price? $500?
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 1/27/16 4:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> In picking it up this weekend so we shall see.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I would agree. The seller is misrepresenting the fact that the 
>>> harnesses go through the firewall and continue on somewhere into the car. 
>>> Suggesting that all you need is the engine harness is wrong. You either 
>>> need a whole new set of harnesses that come from the engine compartment and 
>>> go through the firewall, or you're going to be butt splicing a poopload of 
>>> wires on the other side.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 replacing all those wiring harnesses will require stripping the car to 
 bare metal, or nearly so.  Based on the time it is taking me to deal with 
 melted insulation in POSitive, you are better off to scrap it.  Put the 
 engine in a wilton type rodbender.  It'll take less time and money.  You 
 guys shoulda jumped on Wilton's car.  Easier and cheaper.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I seem to remember the description of the first one I bought mentioned an OS. 
These current MacBook descriptions do not. I thought that perhaps Apple was no 
longer including an OS.
Thanks,
Gerry

> Gerry,
> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The only 
> difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t tell 
> the difference between new and refurb.
> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their 
> computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy 
> AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.
> MacDan
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would 
> > like to sell?
> > 
> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
> > Apples website didn't say that they did.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] My New Project

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 25/01/2016 6:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I need to get it home to get it running.

Bob R


So, what do you think it wrong with it?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] My New Project

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 27/01/2016 11:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

When the lady dropped it off 2.5 years ago, it was leaking fuel from around
the IP and, understandably,  running rough.
I'm going buy a battery, slightly pressurize the fuel tank with some
compressed air,  and attempt to get it running to drive it the 3 miles
home.
My plan, besides doing all the requisite things one does to a car that has
sat idle for 2.5 years, is to change all fuel lines and fuel hoses and all
the o-ring in the IP.
My indy ran the Carfax for it and it is a TX/AZ car with 273K miles on the
clock and has had a vast majority of its scheduled maintenance performed on
it.
So, I'll be wanting any input regarding w210 or om606.

Bob R
On Jan 27, 2016 9:51 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
wrote:


On 25/01/2016 6:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


I need to get it home to get it running.

Bob R

So, what do you think it wrong with it?

RB




Around here, I can get a car hauled home on a flat bed tow truck for $50 
cash.

Might be worth doing that so that you can work on it at your leisure.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Stupid money. If you're referring to the 190SLs of the late 50s/early 60s, I 
can recall from the late 90s when they were going for pennies on the dollar and 
most were rusty, Flintstone cars.

Dan

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> If a 280SL is worth that much, what's a 190SL worth now?
> 
>> On January 27, 2016 at 12:14 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Basically a cheaply built, boring car with a cult following.
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Re: [MBZ] My New Project

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'd go with a tow or flatbed as well, those leaks probably have gotten
worse instead of better, it may be too weak and rough-running to get home
safely, or strand you along the way and then you may be forced into the tow
truck at the car's schedule instead of yours.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


> Around here, I can get a car hauled home on a flat bed tow truck for $50
> cash.
> Might be worth doing that so that you can work on it at your leisure.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Clintons Part 1

[Bob via Mercedes]

Here you go...
 
Bob--- Begin Message ---
 
Clinton casualty list (compiled from sources I did not record): 
??/??/86 1.) Russell Welch, an Arkansas State Police Investigator, was  
stricken with what his doctor called “military-grade” anthrax poisoning during 
 his probe of Mena drug operations.
??/??/86 2.) Alder Berriman (Barry) Seal,  the head of the cocaine 
smuggling operation at Mena airport, was  murdered.
08/23/87 3.) Kevin Ives, a teenager who lived near Mena, AR, was  run over 
by a train close to Mena. First ruled a suicide, a later autopsy showed  he 
was murdered before he was run over by the train. He may have gotten too  
curious about air drops he had seen in the nearby countryside.
08/23/87 4.)  Don Henry, a friend of Kevin Ives, was also run over by the 
train on the same  night. His death was initially ruled a suicide, too, but a 
later autopsy showed  he was also murdered before he was run over by the 
train.
Initial cause of  death reported to be resulting from falling asleep on 
railroad tracks in  Arkansas on Aug. 23, 1987. This initial ruling was reported 
by state medical  examiner Fahmy Malak. It was later determined that Kevin 
died from a crushed  skull and that Don had been stabbed in the back prior 
to being placed on the  tracks. Rumors indicate that they might have stumbled 
upon the Mena drug  operation.
04/??/88 5.) Keith Coney, an individual who claimed to have  information 
about the deaths of Kevin Ives and Don Henry, was fleeing an  attacker on his 
motorcycle, when he slammed into the back of a truck. Police  ruled it a “
traffic fatality”.
11/??/88 6.) Keith McKaskle, another person  who claimed to have 
information about the Ives-Henry murders, was brutally  stabbed to death in his 
home. 
He knew someone was after him so he had said  goodbye to his friends and 
family.
01/??/89 7.) Gregory Collins, another  person who claimed to have 
information about the Ives-Henry, Died from a gunshot  wound to the head in 
Jan. 
1989. 
04/??/89 8.) Jeff Rhodes, another person who  claimed to have information 
about the Ives-Henry murders, was shot in the head.  His burned body was 
found in the city dump, with his hands, feet, and head  partially severed. 
?? 9.) James Milan - held information on the  Ives/Henry deaths. Was 
decapitated; state examiner Fahmy Malak initially ruled  death by natural 
causes.
 10.) Richard Winters, another person who  claimed to have 
information about the Ives-Henry murders, was killed by a man  using a 
sawed-off 
shotgun. Also a suspect in the deaths of Ives/Henry. Was  killed in a robbery 
in July 1989 which was subsequently proved to be a  setup.
06/??/90 11.) Jordan Ketelson, another person who claimed to have  
information about the Ives-Henry murders, died of a shotgun blast to the head.  
Found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup on June 1990.
A total of  six individuals that claimed to have information about the 
Ives-Henry murders  ended up being murdered themselves. Not one arrest was ever 
made with regard to  these murders or the “activities” at Mena. It is 
highly unlikely that this could  have occurred without the cooperation of the 
authorities.
INSLAW was a small  software company whose software (PROMIS) was allegedly 
stolen by the Dept. of  Justice. Tactics utilized by the Dept. of Justice 
during this procurement  eventually forced INSLAW into bankruptcy. The 
lawsuits and ensuing  investigations resulted in many deaths as itemized in the 
following  listing:
02/??/87 12.) Larry Guerin - Was killed in Feb. 1987 while  investigating 
the INSLAW case.
01/31/91 13.) Alan Standorf - Electronic  Intelligence employee for the 
National Security Agency was a source of  information to Danny Casalaro who was 
investigating INSLAW and BCCI. His body  was found in the backseat of his 
car at Wash. National Airport on Jan 31,  1991.
04/05/91 14.) Dennis Eisman - Attorney involved in the INSLAW case.  Found 
shot to death on April 5, 1991.
08/10/91 15.) Danny Casalaro - Free  lance reporter and writer who was 
investigating several of the Clinton Scandals,  including INSLAW, BCCI and the 
October Surprise. Found dead in his bathtub in  his Sheraton Hotel room in 
Martinsburg, Virginia on Aug 10, 1991. His wrists  were slashed 10 times and 
the documentation on the cases he was working on was  missing. He had earlier 
warned his family that his life was in danger and if he  was found dead due 
to an apparent accident or suicide, not to believe  it.
11/01/92 16 - 20.) Ian Spiro - Held supporting documentation for grand  
jury proceedings on the INSLAW case. His wife and 3 children were found 
murdered  on Nov 1, 1992 in their home with gunshot wounds to the head. Ian’s 
body 
was  found several days later in a parked car on the Borego Desert. Death 
was  determined to be ingestion of cyanide. FBI report indicated that Ian had  
murdered his family and committed suicide.
04/??/96 21.) John Crawford -  Attorney 

Re: [MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Basically a cheaply built, boring car with a cult following.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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>
> http://www.mbca-hawaii.org/classifieds/show-ad/9/1968-mb-280-sl-w-113/portland/autos-for-sale-or-wanted/
>
> nice car.  A bit over my price range.
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Re: [MBZ] 89 300SE for Dan

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Priced just about $3,500 too high.  Otherwise, a nice looking ride.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5415739030.html
>
> Not far from me.
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> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] My New Project

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

When the lady dropped it off 2.5 years ago, it was leaking fuel from around
the IP and, understandably,  running rough.
I'm going buy a battery, slightly pressurize the fuel tank with some
compressed air,  and attempt to get it running to drive it the 3 miles
home.
My plan, besides doing all the requisite things one does to a car that has
sat idle for 2.5 years, is to change all fuel lines and fuel hoses and all
the o-ring in the IP.
My indy ran the Carfax for it and it is a TX/AZ car with 273K miles on the
clock and has had a vast majority of its scheduled maintenance performed on
it.
So, I'll be wanting any input regarding w210 or om606.

Bob R
On Jan 27, 2016 9:51 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> On 25/01/2016 6:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I need to get it home to get it running.
>>
>> Bob R
>>
>> So, what do you think it wrong with it?
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If a 280SL is worth that much, what's a 190SL worth now?

> On January 27, 2016 at 12:14 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Basically a cheaply built, boring car with a cult following.
> 

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Re: [MBZ] My New Project

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's way over your head, too complicated 

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> When the lady dropped it off 2.5 years ago, it was leaking fuel from around
> the IP and, understandably,  running rough.
> I'm going buy a battery, slightly pressurize the fuel tank with some
> compressed air,  and attempt to get it running to drive it the 3 miles
> home.
> My plan, besides doing all the requisite things one does to a car that has
> sat idle for 2.5 years, is to change all fuel lines and fuel hoses and all
> the o-ring in the IP.
> My indy ran the Carfax for it and it is a TX/AZ car with 273K miles on the
> clock and has had a vast majority of its scheduled maintenance performed on
> it.
> So, I'll be wanting any input regarding w210 or om606.
> 
> Bob R
> On Jan 27, 2016 9:51 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>>> On 25/01/2016 6:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need to get it home to get it running.
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> So, what do you think it wrong with it?
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

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Some 190SLs are worth more than the W113SLs now.  It's a cult driven by
shortage and cupidity.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Stupid money. If you're referring to the 190SLs of the late 50s/early 60s,
> I can recall from the late 90s when they were going for pennies on the
> dollar and most were rusty, Flintstone cars.
>
> Dan
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > If a 280SL is worth that much, what's a 190SL worth now?
> >
> >> On January 27, 2016 at 12:14 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Basically a cheaply built, boring car with a cult following.
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 turbo oil drain

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curly wrote:
> 
> With the tube off, the oil ran out of the port in the block
> when the engine was running.  I thought maybe it was just
> the oil level being a little high, so I put on the lower
> bracket for the tube, raising the level to overflow an inch
> or so.  The oil still overflowed with the engine running.
> Then I put the tube on, extending the overflow level
> several inches, well above the oil level of the crankcase.
> Then the oil level in the tube climbed until it too
> overflowed.
> 
> That is why it appears to be pressure fed and not splashing
> out because of blowby.

Blowby _could_ cause a pressurized crankcase - if the drain
tube continues down into the oil bath kinda like the dipstick
tube.  If so, I would expect the oil to climb the dipstick
tube also.  

I had this happen in a OM617.  Ring failure caused oil to
pump out the dipstick tube.

If there is pressure on what is supposed to be a oil
drain, there will be no place for the supply oil to go so the
turbo will no be properly oiled.

How much pressure is behind the drain?  Can you stop the flow
with you finger over the pipe?

Sounds to me like you have a strange problem!  But I think
you knew that already...

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Re: [MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I don't recall cheap W121s since the early 1980s, but I remember an employer
asking something like $7500 for an ugly brown (but perfect condition) 280SL
Pagoda in 1988 and I thought it overpriced and boring. (and 35 years ago, cheap
for a W121 meant it cost as much as a 914 Porch)

I agree with Andrew on the W113, it's boring. 
But, IMO, the W121 190SL was an attractive car, as least as much so as a
1958-1962 Corvette. 

Mitch. 

> On January 27, 2016 at 1:01 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Stupid money. If you're referring to the 190SLs of the late 50s/early 60s, I
> can recall from the late 90s when they were going for pennies on the dollar
> and most were rusty, Flintstone cars.

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[MBZ] Need MacBook

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would like to 
sell?

Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
Apples website didn't say that they did.

Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gerry,

Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The only 
difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t tell the 
difference between new and refurb.

In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their 
computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy 
AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.

MacDan



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> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would like 
> to sell?
> 
> Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
> Apples website didn't say that they did.
> 
> Thanks,
> Gerry
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[MBZ] 1989 Mercedes 300 SE (One Owner)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I can beat that in my own neighborhood:

> http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/5420559092.html 
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If this was an SEL I would be all over it.

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1987 300D 81k miles $3500

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

This looks like a really nice deal, if the mileage is legit.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


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1987 Mercedes-Benz 300D 4dr Turbodiesel Sedan  DIESEL
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 Mercedes 300 SE (One Owner)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, if there was one thing I would deduct points for on this car, that would 
be it. I never understood the attraction of chrome wheels on an S class car.

I emailed them about a swap just for grins. Haven't gotten a reply.

Dan

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
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> 
> That's beautiful, even has the pimp wheels
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 1/27/16 5:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I can beat that in my own neighborhood:
>> 
>>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/5420559092.html 
>>> 
>> If this was an SEL I would be all over it.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 300D 81k miles $3500

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That reminds me, there is one of the dizzels with the fender vents 
parked at the mech Oral Fipps on this island, he gets these things and 
it costs too much to fix them and they sit there for awhile until he 
unloads them.  I don't know if this is the case with this car, I just 
saw it there on a drive-by.


--R

On 1/27/16 6:37 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

This looks like a really nice deal, if the mileage is legit.



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[MBZ] for those with spare pocket change

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

http://www.mbca-hawaii.org/classifieds/show-ad/9/1968-mb-280-sl-w-113/portland/autos-for-sale-or-wanted/

nice car.  A bit over my price range.

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Re: [MBZ] 1989 Mercedes 300 SE (One Owner)

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That's beautiful, even has the pimp wheels

--R

On 1/27/16 5:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I can beat that in my own neighborhood:


http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/5420559092.html 


If this was an SEL I would be all over it.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Posting pictures to the list

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

So what is the problem  with Bob's picture posting? Looks fine to me.


My e-mailer appeared to be frozen for 30 seconds while it downloaded
that monster.  That's long enough to consider rebooting the thing,
with no apparent signs of life...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] holy smokes did they park it in the ocean?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

"About the size of a quarter (pounder)."


About the size of a quarter (panel).

About a quarter.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] holy smokes did they park it in the ocean?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

About the size of a quarter (of the car)

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>> "About the size of a quarter (pounder)."
> 
> About the size of a quarter (panel).
> 
> About a quarter.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Posting pictures to the list

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

It never crossed my mind to make it smaller. I'm not wired to think of
those things. Going forward, I'll be aware of stuff like that.

It's good to learn something every day.

Bob R
On Jan 27, 2016 7:53 AM, "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" 
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> So what is the problem  with Bob's picture posting? Looks fine to me.
>>
>
> My e-mailer appeared to be frozen for 30 seconds while it downloaded
> that monster.  That's long enough to consider rebooting the thing,
> with no apparent signs of life...
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Re: [MBZ] Posting pictures to the list

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I can't speak for Windoze or 'nix email clients, but Apple Mail gives you 
several choices of sizes when you attach pictures to a message. If you use 
Apple Mail you can see this feature with the attachment highlighted - there 
will be a small drop down menu in the lower right portion of the message header 
that gives you 3-4 choices of sizes for the attachment.

Dan 

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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> It never crossed my mind to make it smaller. I'm not wired to think of
> those things. Going forward, I'll be aware of stuff like that.
> 
> It's good to learn something every day.
> 
> Bob R
> On Jan 27, 2016 7:53 AM, "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" 
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> 
>> So what is the problem  with Bob's picture posting? Looks fine to me.
>> 
>> My e-mailer appeared to be frozen for 30 seconds while it downloaded
>> that monster.  That's long enough to consider rebooting the thing,
>> with no apparent signs of life...
>> 
>> -- Jim
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