Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:45:15 -0600 Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Hey guys - two weeks ago today I buried my wife.  Yes, I know you all
> are sending good thoughts and prayers, etc.  Very sudden death - about
> 5 minutes, at home, I held her hand, I prayed.

I'm very to hear of your loss.

Shirley and I are praying for you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Jack

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Plugged not patched?

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> On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I see them on fleabay for like $30 shipped, so if I have to buy one, so be 
> it. I'm betting when the PO had tires put on the car right before I bought it 
> the trunk got emptied out and stuff didn't get put back.
> 
> The youngster picked up a drywall screw smack dab in the middle of the tread 
> on his left rear tire last night. Luckily, he was at home when he noticed it. 
> We popped the tire off, took it to my tire guy (who plugged it for free, I 
> might add) and got it back on, all in maybe 30 minutes.
> 
> I don't want him driving around without a jack. I have a really nice folding 
> lug bolt wrench I gave him, but he still needs a jack.
> 
> Dan
> 
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>> On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have NEVER found jack or wrench (or any other tools other than crap
>> aftermarket stuff) in any of the knackers cars.
>> 
>> On the other hand, the two independent MB garages that I like generally
>> have a collection of parts cars, and I had no problem getting a spare lug
>> wrench from my favorite indie when I needed one.
>> 
>> -
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[MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Naples, FL. There is no better place to find some of the nicest, well cared for 
older cars that I have found. While this might not be the best example because 
of the miles, it gives you an idea of the quality of cars that can be found 
down there:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5390706987.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nowhere that know of. You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of 
money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend.

There are some reputable resellers like OWC (mac sales.com) and PowerMax who 
sell their own refurbs, but I can't vouch for them other than to say that I 
have been a 20+ year customer of OWC and everything I have bought from them has 
been great - but I have never bought a complete computer from them.

I would stick with an iMac with an Intel "I" series processor, as the days of 
support for the C2D processors as far as operating systems is coming to an end.

Dan

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs: 
> 
> For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" IMac 
> with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and whistles?  I was 
> looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old and overpriced:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
> 
> It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft bundle 
> of word, excel, power point.
> 
> For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple refurb 
> store. I am skeptical...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Gerry,
>> 
>> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The 
>> only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t 
>> tell the difference between new and refurb.
>> 
>> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their 
>> computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy 
>> AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.
>> 
>> MacDan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would 
>> > like to sell?
>> >
>> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
>> > Apples website didn't say that they did.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's not the body style, it's the 6 cyl. GASOLINE engine that makes me want
to snooze.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Methinks mayhaps sir andrew has never driven 1000 miles a day, nor 50,000
> miles a year, in a 126!
>
> I have never found a 126 to be a boring car, with lots of hours of butt
> time in the 126.
>
> IMHO, it is the finest MB produced after the 600.  But the 600 is in a
> class of its own, and outside the specialty cars such as the 600 and the
> 300SL,  the 126 is THE finest postwar MB.
>
> The 126 is a uniquely competent car, being quite reliable, safe, and
> roadworthy over 30 years or more.
>
> It is also a beautiful car
>
> so, as usual, andy is just being a troll hiding under the bridge.
>
>
> Speaking as one old Republican, I do not always find excitement to be a
>> good
>> thing.
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>>  From:  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>>
>>  >
>>  > That has to be one of the boringest car ever to sport the tri-star.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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I had read that they will have an exemption (not sure which one) to make
them street legal.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose
>
> Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that
> impressive.
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> > Yes maker & buyers
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 1990 300D
> > Wickford RI
> > On Jan 28, 2016 6:44 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Cocaine required
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >> On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>>   DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] "New York vs. Texas"

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That was perfect!

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I love Lewis Black, and he does a great job of responding to Ted Cruz’
> insulting statements about New York in this video:
>
> https://vimeo.com/70914835
>
> No sides being taken, just enjoying the response.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Sure sorry to hear that, Mao. I feel for you. I lost my wife 8 years ago.

Go to www.bing.com and type in: "us government civil engineering jobs". 
You will see many listings like these:
https://www.usajobs.gov/JobSearch/Search/GetResults?keyword=%22civil%20engineer%22
Read the lists every day and you might find something. Also, have you checked 
"www.monster.com?
Out here in the Florida backwoods jobs are scarce, but I'll keep my eyes open 
just in case.
Keep your chin up and try to keep busy.
Good luck,
Gerry

Mountain Man wrote:
> Hey guys - two weeks ago today I buried my wife.  Yes, I know you all
> are sending good thoughts and prayers, etc.  Very sudden death - about
> 5 minutes, at home, I held her hand, I prayed.
> 
> Here's the deal.  We rent this house.  We are 5 adults, me, daughter,
> 3 sons, very abnormal, except for okiebenz and DIY.  That has all
> changed, right?  Plus, this place is being sold - wanna see it? -
> 42.0575,-88.376 - in maps, Curley has been here and has the clutch to
> show it.
> 
> Keep your eyes open for me/us?  We need place to crash and jobs to pay
> the rent.  Perhaps in this august group there is knowledge of
> apprenticeship jobs for adults someplace.  Or perhaps caretaker
> needed.  Me? - yeah, the economy barfed me up 5 years ago and nobody
> has needed small site civil engineering design CAD drawings since
> then, to my observation - especially for an old guy.
> 
> Thanks guys.  I'm sure some of you know a widower.  This is zero enjoyment.
> 
> Stuff - I gotta check prices of M189 Bosch injection pump - anyone
> need rebuilt pump? or books? or picture books of Mercedes?  Yeah, look
> at maps photo and notice Adenauer in rear driveway, rusted, gone years
> ago - project that I found was the most expensive MB I ever payed -
> how's that line go?
> mao
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[MBZ] nope, no vote fraud

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

But here is another one

http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article56824863.html

H  I wonder why the county wigs are so anxious that nobody looks 
at the records.


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It wasn't 
impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the handling was nothing 
special. He kept it for years and finally sold it. IIRC the body was unpainted 
stainless steel. Where do you find a bodyman who can do an invisible fix on a 
dent in unpainted stainless steel?
Gerry

G Mann wrote:
> Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose
> Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that impressive.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> > Yes maker & buyers
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 1990 300D
> > Wickford RI
> > On Jan 28, 2016 6:44 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Cocaine required
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >> On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>>   DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml
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Re: [MBZ] Jack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Both, I believe.

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> On Jan 28, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Plugged not patched?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

C2D = Core 2 Duo so avoid that one, its got inadequate RAM in any case. Nothing 
with less than 4GB of RAM should be considered unless you feel comfortable 
upgrading it, remember to keep the cost of a RAM upgrade in mind...
-Curt
 

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook
   
Great advice - thanks!

With regard to *"You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of money
unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommen*d."

The PowerMax IMac 27" deals are either  Used Apple 27-Inch iMac Intel Core
2 Duo/3.33 GHz or:  Used Apple
27-Inch iMac Intel Core i3/3.2 GHz


Which is the one to avoid?

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nowhere that know of. You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of
> money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend.
>
> There are some reputable resellers like OWC (mac sales.com) and PowerMax
> who sell their own refurbs, but I can't vouch for them other than to say
> that I have been a 20+ year customer of OWC and everything I have bought
> from them has been great - but I have never bought a complete computer from
> them.
>
> I would stick with an iMac with an Intel "I" series processor, as the days
> of support for the C2D processors as far as operating systems is coming to
> an end.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:
> >
> > For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27"
> IMac with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and
> whistles?  I was looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old
> and overpriced:
> >
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
> >
> > It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft
> bundle of word, excel, power point.
> >
> > For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple
> refurb store. I am skeptical...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Gerry,
> >>
> >> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.
> The only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you
> can’t tell the difference between new and refurb.
> >>
> >> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their
> computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy
> AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.
> >>
> >> MacDan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they
> would like to sell?
> >> >
> >> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
> >> > Apples website didn't say that they did.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Gerry
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[MBZ] OT: Snooping drones and the capture thereof

[Craig via Mercedes]

A while back, there was some discussion about drones and how to deal with
them. Today, I ran across:

  
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/style/neighbors-drones-invade-privacy.html?_r=0
  When Your Neighbor’s Drone Pays an Unwelcome Visit

That led to:

  
http://www.mtu.edu/news/stories/2016/january/drone-catcher-robotic-falcon-can-capture-retrieve-renegade-drones.html
  Drone Catcher: "Robotic Falcon" can Capture, Retrieve Renegade
 Drones

which led to a video of the "Robotic Falcon" at:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdKNBSWPyU=youtu.be

and a video of drone captures by animals:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn6eeuUw3_0


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[G Mann via Mercedes]

sorry for the typo.. should read "of"

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:52 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> Mao,
> I am sorry to learn of the passing or you wife.
>
> To far away to be of any help on the change of housing issue and the
> economy totally sucks for jobs. None the less, I wish you luck and
> success.
>
> Grant...
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>> Hey guys - two weeks ago today I buried my wife.  Yes, I know you all
>> are sending good thoughts and prayers, etc.  Very sudden death - about
>> 5 minutes, at home, I held her hand, I prayed.
>>
>> Here's the deal.  We rent this house.  We are 5 adults, me, daughter,
>> 3 sons, very abnormal, except for okiebenz and DIY.  That has all
>> changed, right?  Plus, this place is being sold - wanna see it? -
>> 42.0575,-88.376 - in maps, Curley has been here and has the clutch to
>> show it.
>>
>> Keep your eyes open for me/us?  We need place to crash and jobs to pay
>> the rent.  Perhaps in this august group there is knowledge of
>> apprenticeship jobs for adults someplace.  Or perhaps caretaker
>> needed.  Me? - yeah, the economy barfed me up 5 years ago and nobody
>> has needed small site civil engineering design CAD drawings since
>> then, to my observation - especially for an old guy.
>>
>> Thanks guys.  I'm sure some of you know a widower.  This is zero enjoyment.
>>
>> Stuff - I gotta check prices of M189 Bosch injection pump - anyone
>> need rebuilt pump? or books? or picture books of Mercedes?  Yeah, look
>> at maps photo and notice Adenauer in rear driveway, rusted, gone years
>> ago - project that I found was the most expensive MB I ever payed -
>> how's that line go?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Mao,

Big advantage to living in the desert southwest is winter season..
yesterday, short sleeves and put the AC on in the car driving across
town... mid 70's.. Rest of country is ice, snow, and cold...

Summer, however, is not for the faint.. routinely above 110 for months
on end. But, it's a "dry heat".. ;))

I left the mid west over 30 yrs ago and have not missed the winters.
But.. it's a big move. I'll keep an eye open for anything that looks
like an opportunity that might work for you here.

Grant..

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:
> Grant wrote:
>> To far away to be of any help on the change of housing issue...
>
> Maybe not?
> Keep your eyes open, please.
> Eliminating stuff that owns us shall make us lightweight, I suspect.
> Years ago Mom had offloaded all stuff, now we gotta get there.
> Thanks.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> ...so maybe you should try to
> decide as little as possible, keep your options open, and give yourself
> some time.

Yes, I am accomplishing that.  i.e. the State took their property
(Diane''s body) to the State approved location (hospital) to declare
death.  At the location, I gave no personal information but told my
31-year-old son he had to speak to them - I was speechlessly pissed
that I had zero ability to manage a dead body.  Diane's body is
property of the State.  i.e. State approved transport, State approved
death declaration, State approved burial management.  All regulations
lobbied thru the years by these industries for the health and
well-being of the country, but... zero person-to-person consideration.
Okay, that RANT is done and two-weeks-old.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Heck we've been getting up over freezing every day lately. Supposed to be in 
high 40s for the next couple days. We've barely had any winter at all, by the 
end of tomorrow we probably won't have any snow at all.
I'm unhappy with this both because theres no snowmobiling but also because a 
lack of snow and cold means we'll have worse bugs next summer.
-Curt
 

  From: G Mann via Mercedes 
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Cc: G Mann 
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - widower
   
Mao,

Big advantage to living in the desert southwest is winter season..
yesterday, short sleeves and put the AC on in the car driving across
town... mid 70's.. Rest of country is ice, snow, and cold...

Summer, however, is not for the faint.. routinely above 110 for months
on end. But, it's a "dry heat".. ;))

I left the mid west over 30 yrs ago and have not missed the winters.
But.. it's a big move. I'll keep an eye open for anything that looks
like an opportunity that might work for you here.

Grant..

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:
> Grant wrote:
>> To far away to be of any help on the change of housing issue...
>
> Maybe not?
> Keep your eyes open, please.
> Eliminating stuff that owns us shall make us lightweight, I suspect.
> Years ago Mom had offloaded all stuff, now we gotta get there.
> Thanks.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Have you ever investigated the exciting world of landfill management?
My Dad is a civil engineer and became a landfill manager as a retirement job. 
He says that most landfill managers are just high school graduates. He got 
better pay because of being and engineer which saved the landfill a bunch of 
money in consulting engineers that they didn't need to use anymore.He retired 
last July but said that the landfill manager job was the best he ever had.
-Curt
 

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 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - widower
   
Grant wrote:
> But.. it's a big move. I'll keep an eye open for anything that looks
> like an opportunity that might work for you here.

Yep.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Mao,

Very sorry to hear that, I'll be putting some thought to your dilemma.

In the past I've heard that the best thing a new widower can do is
_nothing_.  Do nothing but exist for a year, and then you'll be able to
make rational decisions after the grieving process has run its course.

Obviously your situation won't allow that, so maybe you should try to
decide as little as possible, keep your options open, and give yourself
some time.

I would not recommend picking up and moving across the country (but I'm not
you).

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hey guys - two weeks ago today I buried my wife.  Yes, I know you all
> are sending good thoughts and prayers, etc.  Very sudden death - about
> 5 minutes, at home, I held her hand, I prayed.
>
> Here's the deal.  We rent this house.  We are 5 adults, me, daughter,
> 3 sons, very abnormal, except for okiebenz and DIY.  That has all
> changed, right?  Plus, this place is being sold - wanna see it? -
> 42.0575,-88.376 - in maps, Curley has been here and has the clutch to
> show it.
>
> Keep your eyes open for me/us?  We need place to crash and jobs to pay
> the rent.  Perhaps in this august group there is knowledge of
> apprenticeship jobs for adults someplace.  Or perhaps caretaker
> needed.  Me? - yeah, the economy barfed me up 5 years ago and nobody
> has needed small site civil engineering design CAD drawings since
> then, to my observation - especially for an old guy.
>
> Thanks guys.  I'm sure some of you know a widower.  This is zero enjoyment.
>
> Stuff - I gotta check prices of M189 Bosch injection pump - anyone
> need rebuilt pump? or books? or picture books of Mercedes?  Yeah, look
> at maps photo and notice Adenauer in rear driveway, rusted, gone years
> ago - project that I found was the most expensive MB I ever payed -
> how's that line go?
> mao
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[MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

 DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml

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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
> To far away to be of any help on the change of housing issue...

Maybe not?
Keep your eyes open, please.
Eliminating stuff that owns us shall make us lightweight, I suspect.
Years ago Mom had offloaded all stuff, now we gotta get there.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Jack

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

I have a jack and may have the lug, but that is long distance shipping from 
SEA. 

I am stuck in ANC at the moment 

clay 

- Original Message -

From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
To: "Mercedes List"  
Cc: "Dan Penoff"  
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:22:36 AM 
Subject: [MBZ] Jack 

Just discovered the 94 S420 has no jack or lug wrench in the spare tire well. 

Anyone got a spare jack and wrench they might be willing to part with? 

I'm checking with the seller, as I suspect they might be laying around in a 
corner at his place, but if not, I need to find one so the car has them. Darned 
if that's not something I left in the S500 when I parted it out, dang it! 

Thanks, 

Dan 

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

I snagged a few models from them. OWC does a very good job of identifying 
condition honestly. Pricing is higher than I would want to pay, but I never had 
issue with their laptops. 

clay 

- Original Message -

From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
To: "Mercedes List"  
Cc: "Dan Penoff"  
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:19:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook 

Nowhere that know of. You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of 
money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend. 

There are some reputable resellers like OWC (mac sales.com) and PowerMax who 
sell their own refurbs, but I can't vouch for them other than to say that I 
have been a 20+ year customer of OWC and everything I have bought from them has 
been great - but I have never bought a complete computer from them. 

I would stick with an iMac with an Intel "I" series processor, as the days of 
support for the C2D processors as far as operating systems is coming to an end. 

Dan 

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote: 
> 
> Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs: 
> 
> For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" IMac 
> with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and whistles? I was 
> looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old and overpriced: 
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
>  
> 
> It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft bundle 
> of word, excel, power point. 
> 
> For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple refurb 
> store. I am skeptical... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> Gerry, 
>> 
>> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device. The only 
>> difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t tell 
>> the difference between new and refurb. 
>> 
>> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their 
>> computers new. Always refurbs. If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy 
>> AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper. 
>> 
>> MacDan 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would 
>> > like to sell? 
>> > 
>> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems. 
>> > Apples website didn't say that they did. 
>> > 
>> > Thanks, 
>> > Gerry 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Mao,
I am sorry to learn of the passing or you wife.

To far away to be of any help on the change of housing issue and the
economy totally sucks for jobs. None the less, I wish you luck and
success.

Grant...

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:
> Hey guys - two weeks ago today I buried my wife.  Yes, I know you all
> are sending good thoughts and prayers, etc.  Very sudden death - about
> 5 minutes, at home, I held her hand, I prayed.
>
> Here's the deal.  We rent this house.  We are 5 adults, me, daughter,
> 3 sons, very abnormal, except for okiebenz and DIY.  That has all
> changed, right?  Plus, this place is being sold - wanna see it? -
> 42.0575,-88.376 - in maps, Curley has been here and has the clutch to
> show it.
>
> Keep your eyes open for me/us?  We need place to crash and jobs to pay
> the rent.  Perhaps in this august group there is knowledge of
> apprenticeship jobs for adults someplace.  Or perhaps caretaker
> needed.  Me? - yeah, the economy barfed me up 5 years ago and nobody
> has needed small site civil engineering design CAD drawings since
> then, to my observation - especially for an old guy.
>
> Thanks guys.  I'm sure some of you know a widower.  This is zero enjoyment.
>
> Stuff - I gotta check prices of M189 Bosch injection pump - anyone
> need rebuilt pump? or books? or picture books of Mercedes?  Yeah, look
> at maps photo and notice Adenauer in rear driveway, rusted, gone years
> ago - project that I found was the most expensive MB I ever payed -
> how's that line go?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT - widower

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
> But.. it's a big move. I'll keep an eye open for anything that looks
> like an opportunity that might work for you here.

Yep.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Snooping drones and the capture thereof

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems unAmerican to shoot one down.  For example, if you wanted to use a
drone to snoop on HRC or BHO.  What's more patriotic than that??

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> A while back, there was some discussion about drones and how to deal with
> them. Today, I ran across:
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/style/neighbors-drones-invade-privacy.html?_r=0
>   When Your Neighbor’s Drone Pays an Unwelcome Visit
>
> That led to:
>
>
> http://www.mtu.edu/news/stories/2016/january/drone-catcher-robotic-falcon-can-capture-retrieve-renegade-drones.html
>   Drone Catcher: "Robotic Falcon" can Capture, Retrieve Renegade
>  Drones
>
> which led to a video of the "Robotic Falcon" at:
>
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdKNBSWPyU=youtu.be
>
> and a video of drone captures by animals:
>
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn6eeuUw3_0
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

First of all, I would want to see the serial number to check with Apple to be 
sure it’s not stolen.  If not, resetting the firmware is pretty straightforward 
on most models.

Dan

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Found a nice one for cheap on ebay, but the seller advises "IMPORTANT! iMAC 
> needed to reset BIOS password to be able to use it, so it can cause addition 
> expenses."
> 
> What does this mean??
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

But its a MerzADEEZ!  IT WILL GO A MILLION MILES EASY!

--R

On 1/28/16 3:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

That has to be one of the boringest car ever to sport the tri-star.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:


Said 1989 in the box

--R

On 1/28/16 1:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Clean title but no year??

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

Naples, FL. There is no better place to find some of the
nicest, well
cared for older cars that I have found. While this might
not be the best
example because of the miles, it gives you an idea of the
quality of cars
that can be found down there:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5390706987.html

Dan

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[MBZ] OT - widower

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Hey guys - two weeks ago today I buried my wife.  Yes, I know you all
are sending good thoughts and prayers, etc.  Very sudden death - about
5 minutes, at home, I held her hand, I prayed.

Here's the deal.  We rent this house.  We are 5 adults, me, daughter,
3 sons, very abnormal, except for okiebenz and DIY.  That has all
changed, right?  Plus, this place is being sold - wanna see it? -
42.0575,-88.376 - in maps, Curley has been here and has the clutch to
show it.

Keep your eyes open for me/us?  We need place to crash and jobs to pay
the rent.  Perhaps in this august group there is knowledge of
apprenticeship jobs for adults someplace.  Or perhaps caretaker
needed.  Me? - yeah, the economy barfed me up 5 years ago and nobody
has needed small site civil engineering design CAD drawings since
then, to my observation - especially for an old guy.

Thanks guys.  I'm sure some of you know a widower.  This is zero enjoyment.

Stuff - I gotta check prices of M189 Bosch injection pump - anyone
need rebuilt pump? or books? or picture books of Mercedes?  Yeah, look
at maps photo and notice Adenauer in rear driveway, rusted, gone years
ago - project that I found was the most expensive MB I ever payed -
how's that line go?
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Re: [MBZ] A deal for Rich

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have a 79 TD that is slowly dissolving but the engine and trans are 
still pretty good.  I should probably pull the engine/trans and some 
bits and knack it.  There was a guy here I ran into at Lowes one day who 
had a 300D, we got talking, he had a pretty nice TD that the engine 
grenaded on he wanted to unload, I was thinking about that.  Saw it on 
CL some weeks later for like Kleb money, I guess he probably sold it to 
some other fool.


--R

On 1/28/16 12:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

300TD sans engine??  What's the point?

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/cto/5421288004.html

these, plus your TD might make a good car.

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Re: [MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That has to be one of the boringest car ever to sport the tri-star.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Said 1989 in the box
>
> --R
>
> On 1/28/16 1:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Clean title but no year??
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Naples, FL. There is no better place to find some of the nicest, well
>>> cared for older cars that I have found. While this might not be the best
>>> example because of the miles, it gives you an idea of the quality of cars
>>> that can be found down there:
>>>
>>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5390706987.html
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Found a nice one for cheap on ebay, but the seller advises "IMPORTANT! iMAC
needed to reset BIOS password to be able to use it, so it can cause
addition expenses."

What does this mean??

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Avoid the first one - the Core2Duo.  This is end of life processor
> hardware.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 28, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Great advice - thanks!
> >
> > With regard to "You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of
> money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend."
> >
> > The PowerMax IMac 27" deals are either  Used Apple 27-Inch iMac Intel
> Core 2 Duo/3.33 GHz or:  Used Apple 27-Inch iMac Intel Core i3/3.2 GHz
> >
> > Which is the one to avoid?
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Nowhere that know of. You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind
> of money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend.
> >>
> >> There are some reputable resellers like OWC (mac sales.com) and
> PowerMax who sell their own refurbs, but I can't vouch for them other than
> to say that I have been a 20+ year customer of OWC and everything I have
> bought from them has been great - but I have never bought a complete
> computer from them.
> >>
> >> I would stick with an iMac with an Intel "I" series processor, as the
> days of support for the C2D processors as far as operating systems is
> coming to an end.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:
> >> >
> >> > For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used
> 27" IMac with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and
> whistles?  I was looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old
> and overpriced:
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
> >> >
> >> > It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft
> bundle of word, excel, power point.
> >> >
> >> > For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM
> apple refurb store. I am skeptical...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >> Gerry,
> >> >>
> >> >> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.
> The only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you
> can’t tell the difference between new and refurb.
> >> >>
> >> >> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of
> their computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$
> to buy AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s
> cheaper.
> >> >>
> >> >> MacDan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they
> would like to sell?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating
> systems.
> >> >> > Apples website didn't say that they did.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Gerry
> >> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Said 1989 in the box

--R

On 1/28/16 1:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Clean title but no year??

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Naples, FL. There is no better place to find some of the nicest, well
cared for older cars that I have found. While this might not be the best
example because of the miles, it gives you an idea of the quality of cars
that can be found down there:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5390706987.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Wow that is nice.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Naples, FL. There is no better place to find some of the nicest, well cared 
> for older cars that I have found. While this might not be the best example 
> because of the miles, it gives you an idea of the quality of cars that can be 
> found down there:
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5390706987.html
> 
> Dan
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[MBZ] "New York vs. Texas"

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I love Lewis Black, and he does a great job of responding to Ted Cruz’ 
insulting statements about New York in this video:

https://vimeo.com/70914835

No sides being taken, just enjoying the response.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Cocaine required

--R

On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

  DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml

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Re: [MBZ] Jack

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I have a jack and may have the lug, but that is long distance 
shipping from SEA.


I am stuck in ANC at the moment

clay


Wow!  the red ghost has been sighted again!  Long time no see!



Sounds like SWMBO hauled your _ ___ up to the land of noontime 
darkness too!


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes maker & buyers

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 28, 2016 6:44 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Cocaine required
>
> --R
>
> On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>   DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.
>>
>> http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml
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[MBZ] Decent looking 240d with rare leather

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1982 Mercedes-Benz Sedan 240D ~ Diesel ~ Low Mileage
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5391522278.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles $3000

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Scam.  Can't believe you fell for that.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 27, 2016 8:54:14 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>
>
>1997 Mercedes Benz S320 LWB. 85k miles
>http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5421195913.html
>
>via cPro for Craigslist
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

You want to go here: http://lowendmac.com
Go into the Deals section and poke around, but my favorite used Mac
retailer is Power Max: https://www.powermax.com

EdB

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:
>
> For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" IMac
> with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and whistles?  I
> was looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old and
> overpriced:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
>
> It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft bundle
> of word, excel, power point.
>
> For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple
> refurb store. I am skeptical...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Gerry,
> >
> > Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The
> > only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you
> can’t
> > tell the difference between new and refurb.
> >
> > In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their
> > computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to
> buy
> > AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.
> >
> > MacDan
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would
> > like to sell?
> > >
> > > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
> > > Apples website didn't say that they did.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gerry
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook -- no, iMac

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The Genii with run Apple Hardware Diagnostics on it to see what's up. That's 
not definitive, but it could help.

I'm wondering if you've got one of the MacBooks with the bad GPU. They would do 
all sorts of weird things. The Genii will know this and run the device serial 
number through GSX to see.

MacDan

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've got one I'm about ready to throw out the window...
> 
> I reinstalled the TM backup on the thing onto the new HDD, still no worky the 
> OS was pretty much locking up on startup or shortly after.  I managed to do a 
> diagnostic and it showed (only) the memory was OK (these were new memory 
> sticks I put in a year or two ago) but it was still hanging up. Reinstalled 
> the OS (10.6.4 on the DVD) fresh after a few false starts, still was hanging, 
> then tried to update to 10.6.8 which was on the TM reinstall.  That got hung 
> up trying to run it off a USB stick.  So then I tried to install the OS on 
> the SSD and it just hung up.  I'm thinking at this point that the mobo has 
> some serious gork issues but I'm not sure how to diagnostics on that part of 
> the system as the startup D option only did a memory check.
> 
> I might take it into the apple genii next week and see if they can do a 
> deeper diagnostic on it, find out if the board is gorked or what.  Note that 
> this was pretty much what it was doing before I changed the HDD out, though 
> the diagnostics at that point said it was overheating.  It has worked OK in 
> an external box.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1/27/16 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:
>> 
>> For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" IMac
>> with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and whistles?  I
>> was looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old and overpriced:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
>> 
>> It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft bundle
>> of word, excel, power point.
>> 
>> For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple
>> refurb store. I am skeptical...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Gerry,
>>> 
>>> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The
>>> only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t
>>> tell the difference between new and refurb.
>>> 
>>> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their
>>> computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy
>>> AppleCare for it off of

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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Great advice - thanks!

With regard to *"You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of money
unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommen*d."

The PowerMax IMac 27" deals are either  Used Apple 27-Inch iMac Intel Core
2 Duo/3.33 GHz or:  Used Apple
27-Inch iMac Intel Core i3/3.2 GHz


Which is the one to avoid?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nowhere that know of. You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of
> money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend.
>
> There are some reputable resellers like OWC (mac sales.com) and PowerMax
> who sell their own refurbs, but I can't vouch for them other than to say
> that I have been a 20+ year customer of OWC and everything I have bought
> from them has been great - but I have never bought a complete computer from
> them.
>
> I would stick with an iMac with an Intel "I" series processor, as the days
> of support for the C2D processors as far as operating systems is coming to
> an end.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:
> >
> > For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27"
> IMac with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and
> whistles?  I was looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old
> and overpriced:
> >
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
> >
> > It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft
> bundle of word, excel, power point.
> >
> > For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple
> refurb store. I am skeptical...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Gerry,
> >>
> >> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.
> The only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you
> can’t tell the difference between new and refurb.
> >>
> >> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their
> computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy
> AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.
> >>
> >> MacDan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they
> would like to sell?
> >> >
> >> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
> >> > Apples website didn't say that they did.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Gerry
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Clean title but no year??

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Naples, FL. There is no better place to find some of the nicest, well
> cared for older cars that I have found. While this might not be the best
> example because of the miles, it gives you an idea of the quality of cars
> that can be found down there:
>
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5390706987.html
>
> Dan
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jack

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have an older crank-type jack - which one do you need?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Both, I believe.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > Plugged not patched?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Avoid the first one - the Core2Duo.  This is end of life processor hardware.

Dan

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> On Jan 28, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Great advice - thanks!  
> 
> With regard to "You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of money 
> unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend."
> 
> The PowerMax IMac 27" deals are either  Used Apple 27-Inch iMac Intel Core 2 
> Duo/3.33 GHz or:  Used Apple 27-Inch iMac Intel Core i3/3.2 GHz
> 
> Which is the one to avoid?
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Nowhere that know of. You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of 
>> money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend.
>> 
>> There are some reputable resellers like OWC (mac sales.com) and PowerMax who 
>> sell their own refurbs, but I can't vouch for them other than to say that I 
>> have been a 20+ year customer of OWC and everything I have bought from them 
>> has been great - but I have never bought a complete computer from them.
>> 
>> I would stick with an iMac with an Intel "I" series processor, as the days 
>> of support for the C2D processors as far as operating systems is coming to 
>> an end.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs:
>> >
>> > For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" 
>> > IMac with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and 
>> > whistles?  I was looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old 
>> > and overpriced:
>> >
>> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
>> >
>> > It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft 
>> > bundle of word, excel, power point.
>> >
>> > For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple 
>> > refurb store. I am skeptical...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> Gerry,
>> >>
>> >> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The 
>> >> only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you 
>> >> can’t tell the difference between new and refurb.
>> >>
>> >> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their 
>> >> computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to 
>> >> buy AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s 
>> >> cheaper.
>> >>
>> >> MacDan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would 
>> >> > like to sell?
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
>> >> > Apples website didn't say that they did.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Gerry
>> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose

Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that impressive.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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> Yes maker & buyers
>
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> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
> On Jan 28, 2016 6:44 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
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>> Cocaine required
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>>   DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.
>>>
>>> http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml
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Re: [MBZ] Decent looking 240d with rare leather

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

1982 Mercedes-Benz Sedan 240D ~ Diesel ~ Low Mileage
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5391522278.html



My 240D (81) has the rare leather...   ... or was the rare rich 
Corinthian leather.


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Re: [MBZ] Decent looking 240d with rare leather

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

An admirably honest blrrb, with a shockingly high price tag.

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> 1982 Mercedes-Benz Sedan 240D ~ Diesel ~ Low Mileage
>> http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5391522278.html
>>
>>
> My 240D (81) has the rare leather...   ... or was the rare rich Corinthian
> leather.
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Re: [MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Methinks mayhaps sir andrew has never driven 1000 miles a day, nor 
50,000 miles a year, in a 126!


I have never found a 126 to be a boring car, with lots of hours of 
butt time in the 126.


IMHO, it is the finest MB produced after the 600.  But the 600 is in 
a class of its own, and outside the specialty cars such as the 600 
and the 300SL,  the 126 is THE finest postwar MB.


The 126 is a uniquely competent car, being quite reliable, safe, and 
roadworthy over 30 years or more.


It is also a beautiful car

so, as usual, andy is just being a troll hiding under the bridge.



Speaking as one old Republican, I do not always find excitement to be a good
thing.


 -Original Message-
 From:  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

 >
 > That has to be one of the boringest car ever to sport the tri-star.


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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

C2D = Core 2 Duo so avoid that one, its got inadequate RAM in any case.


C2D's run El Krapitan just fine.  What is your service life expectation
for your purchase?  I figure I'd get at least five years out of anything
that's running today's OS.

Our 10yo Macbook Pro is a C2D, and is running Yosemite.  It sports
6GB of RAM (the max) and a SSD drive, and is really quite snappy and
serviceable.  Should be good for several more years still.

Yes, you need enough/more RAM.  No question, and this has _always_ been
true for computers.  Sadly, Mo mac made today, except maybe the trash
can, is upgradeable at all.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have a 17” MacBook Pro C2D with 8GB RAM and a 480GB SSD that runs El Capitan 
just fine.  In fact, I would recommend such a machine for someone who is only 
interested in doing basic computing, such as email, Web surfing, etc.  For 
someone who might want more power or expect some longevity relative to the 
operating systems, I would encourage them to go with an I series processor.

RAM for the C2D machines is cheap, cheap, cheap.  For basic needs, buy one, 
slap the maximum RAM in it, add an SSD and you’re good for some time as long as 
you don’t try to get fancy.




> On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> C2D = Core 2 Duo so avoid that one, its got inadequate RAM in any case.
> 
> C2D's run El Krapitan just fine.  What is your service life expectation
> for your purchase?  I figure I'd get at least five years out of anything
> that's running today's OS.
> 
> Our 10yo Macbook Pro is a C2D, and is running Yosemite.  It sports
> 6GB of RAM (the max) and a SSD drive, and is really quite snappy and
> serviceable.  Should be good for several more years still.
> 
> Yes, you need enough/more RAM.  No question, and this has _always_ been
> true for computers.  Sadly, Mo mac made today, except maybe the trash
> can, is upgradeable at all.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

All Macs typically are allowed the newest OS if it can run it. You just
have to download it. If you don't have a second Mac to do that on, you need
a friend with one.

EdB

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> Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would
> like to sell?
>
> Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
> Apples website didn't say that they did.
>
> Thanks,
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Jack

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I have NEVER found jack or wrench (or any other tools other than crap
aftermarket stuff) in any of the knackers cars.

On the other hand, the two independent MB garages that I like generally
have a collection of parts cars, and I had no problem getting a spare lug
wrench from my favorite indie when I needed one.

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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

needed to reset BIOS password to be able to use it,
What does this mean??


Stolen?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The I3 and I5 CPUs are not quad core. Are they really that much of an advantage 
over C2D? I thought that as long as they can support dual channel RAM they will 
run a 64 bit OS ok (with enough RAM).

Obviously quad core is a big step up.

Greg, who knows nothing about Macs


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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:19 AM
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Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need MacBook

Nowhere that know of. You're not going to find a 27" iMac for that kind of 
money unless it's a C2D model, which I would not recommend.

There are some reputable resellers like OWC (mac sales.com) and PowerMax who 
sell their own refurbs, but I can't vouch for them other than to say that I 
have been a 20+ year customer of OWC and everything I have bought from them has 
been great - but I have never bought a complete computer from them.

I would stick with an iMac with an Intel "I" series processor, as the days of 
support for the C2D processors as far as operating systems is coming to an end.

Dan

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Hey Dan or anyone else into Macs: 
> 
> For around $800, what's the best place to pick up a refurb or used 27" IMac 
> with wireless keyboard and mouse that has the most bells and whistles?  I was 
> looking at this one on ebay but my son says it's too old and overpriced:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111886828932?euid=eb15ad4b32ca434aaca810fd794f849c=1
> 
> It has Adobe, Safari, wireless printer capability, and the Microsoft bundle 
> of word, excel, power point.
> 
> For that much $ he says I could get a current model from the IBM apple refurb 
> store. I am skeptical...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Gerry,
>> 
>> Apple refurbs come equipped no differently than a brand new device.  The 
>> only difference might be the lack of retail packaging, otherwise, you can’t 
>> tell the difference between new and refurb.
>> 
>> In over 20+ years of Apple ownership, I have never bought one of their 
>> computers new.  Always refurbs.  If it’s a laptop I us the extra $$$ to buy 
>> AppleCare for it off of a retailer’s site, like eBay, where it’s cheaper.
>> 
>> MacDan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone on the list have a MacBook in good working order they would 
>> > like to sell?
>> >
>> > Also, do all Apple refurbished MacBooks come with operating systems.
>> > Apples website didn't say that they did.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Gerry
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[MBZ] Jack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just discovered the 94 S420 has no jack or lug wrench in the spare tire well.

Anyone got a spare jack and wrench they might be willing to part with?

I'm checking with the seller, as I suspect they might be laying around in a 
corner at his place, but if not, I need to find one so the car has them. Darned 
if that's not something I left in the S500 when I parted it out, dang it!

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Jack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I see them on fleabay for like $30 shipped, so if I have to buy one, so be it. 
I'm betting when the PO had tires put on the car right before I bought it the 
trunk got emptied out and stuff didn't get put back.

The youngster picked up a drywall screw smack dab in the middle of the tread on 
his left rear tire last night. Luckily, he was at home when he noticed it. We 
popped the tire off, took it to my tire guy (who plugged it for free, I might 
add) and got it back on, all in maybe 30 minutes.

I don't want him driving around without a jack. I have a really nice folding 
lug bolt wrench I gave him, but he still needs a jack.

Dan

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> On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have NEVER found jack or wrench (or any other tools other than crap
> aftermarket stuff) in any of the knackers cars.
> 
> On the other hand, the two independent MB garages that I like generally
> have a collection of parts cars, and I had no problem getting a spare lug
> wrench from my favorite indie when I needed one.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Where Old Republicans Go to Die

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Speaking as one old Republican, I do not always find excitement to be a good
thing.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> 
> That has to be one of the boringest car ever to sport the tri-star.
> 



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