Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[clay via Mercedes]

+1

I suspect there is no plan to have these new cars on the road long enough for 
them to get mileage badges anymore.   Designed to fail spectacularly within 20 
years and be so uneconomical to repair, that there is no value in even trying 
to fix.  And the parts will have aged out and be of no use to anybody who may 
need or want a used part to effectuate a repair.  Computers will be workless, 
as nobody will know how to program them for your usage.

Driving the SL, I know there must be some software/hardware goober sitting in 
his freshman computer class who could fab a compatible, but far superior and 
tinier ECU for the cost of a Benjamin.  Eliminate all the D-jet issues with a 
box the size of a zippo, able to compensate for application in any D-jet body.  
Volvo, Porsche, MB, VW or Skoda.  

clay



On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

> I'm told the real issue with clear poly-carbonate material is making it
> impervious to UV light damage.
> 
> Service life of the exotic shape headlights is about 5 years. After that
> amount of UV light exposure the poly-carbonate plastic degrades at an
> accelerated rate, losing clarity,, then structural integrity.. followed by
> self degradation.
> 
> It turns cloudy, gets weak.. then turns to plastic dust.. life cycle over..
> 
> Programmed failure design and production process..
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> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The headlights are made polycarbonate, not acrylic and are MUCH tougher.
>> I don't think glass will mold well to some of the exotic shapes currently
>> seen in headlights, it would be very difficult to anneal it so it didn't
>> fracture from cooling stress, and it won't blow mold as well as plastic --
>> some differences in softening point (by about 500 F if I remember
>> correctly) and viscosity.
>> 
>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Auction fun

[clay via Mercedes]

The computers just make a mess of it.   The W220 spits out errors on the dash 
every so often.  Writes them in its little list of screw ups, then forgets 
about them when you start it again.  I have errors mostly for lighting that is 
not failing.  The computers just think they are failed.  Blinkers blink just 
fine, but dash thinks there is some cascade failure and picks a corner to say 
is bad.  Never is.  I change all manner of bulbs until I figured out the car is 
retarded.  I doubt the new class of dealers are employing quality help anymore. 
 Used to be your wrench wrestler was a bit factory trained and certified.  Now, 
I bet you hire any idiot with a heartbeat and a tool box, so they have enough 
guys in the shop for all the lifts.  If your dealership has a few other brands 
in the family, the courtesy van will haul the techs to the Toada or Huyndia 
shop as needed.

clay



On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> On the AMG, I would guess the the RTW cars get springs for the E class.  But 
> the question is if you can fool or disable the computer, or will it tell the 
> other computers the car is screwed so it won't run at all or in limp mode 
> only.
> 
> On the S, Maybe all of them are on air.  Airlift makes good airbags. I am not 
> afraid of airbag suspension.  It is all the sensors and computers I don't 
> want to deal with.
> 
> 4 airbags, some tubing and valves, and a small 12 v air compressor, a 
> pressure gauge, and a couple of switches make a GOOD air suspension system.  
> Most of the pilipino boyz in Honolulu have them.
> 
> MB has managed to take a reliable system and turn it into a nightmare, proven 
> by Clay's experience with a stealer, who could not fix it, but COULD screw it 
> up, by adding un-needed computer and sensors to it.
> 
> 'lectronics is good for cheepchinee throwaway radios.  Not so good for 
> complex systems subjected daily to extreme heat, cold, vibration, shocks and 
> other things that electronic gizmos don't stand up to.
> 
>> Worst case, could steel springs be bodged into place?
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> So how hard would it be to fix the AMG air bits?  Either some sort of
>>> stealer bits or bodge up something home brewed?  Is it mechanical or
>>> electronical or an unholy combo?  Those E55s are hot rods, for a few $100
>>> to buy one it seems like it would be worth some rat engineering to try to
>>> get it sorted.
>>> 
>>> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The worst cars today:  1.  A pottyak rollerskate of some form.  the front
>>> of the seat is just a few inches behind the front edge of the door
>>> opening.  Hard to get into, and extremely difficult to  get out of.  Being
>>> a ragtop, I could not grab the roof to extract myself.  It basically
>>> involved rolling overand crawling backwards to get out of the heap.
>>> 2. Some saturn something or other.  Missing, every warning light on, and
>>> door handles broken.
>>> 
>>> On the MB Front:  Got to drive a couple of newer MBs today.  a 2003 S500.
>>> Rolling on rubber bands, with deflated (airmatic) and missing. It would
>>> probably have 20 problems on the stealer computer.  Lessee: We used air
>>> sispension on the old 300SEs, and they got a reputation of being expensive
>>> to repair.  Many nice 300SEs went to the knacker because the owner thought
>>> the cost of fixing the air suspension was too much.
>>> 
>>> So, Lets put the problem on steroids!  Lets add a while bunch of sensors
>>> and a computer (all of which break) to this system.  And where the 300SE
>>> came with block that could be used to keep a car driveable, lets make the
>>> thing rolloff bait when the airmatic craps out.   On the positive side, the
>>> other stuff inside the car seemed to work.
>>> 
>>> Also drove a 2004 E55 AMG.  No Missing, still rubber band tires, and
>>> deflated airmatic.
>>> 
>>> both cars had trouble getting bids.  The S was in the $2000 range, the AMG
>>> was around $1500.
>>> 
>>> Remember a couple weeks ago there was a S55 AMG with deflated airmatic,
>>> Clay's stealer who could screw up, but could not fix the airmatic.
>>> 
>>> I sure do like my 123s, 124s and 126's!
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I'm told the real issue with clear poly-carbonate material is making it
impervious to UV light damage.

Service life of the exotic shape headlights is about 5 years. After that
amount of UV light exposure the poly-carbonate plastic degrades at an
accelerated rate, losing clarity,, then structural integrity.. followed by
self degradation.

It turns cloudy, gets weak.. then turns to plastic dust.. life cycle over..

Programmed failure design and production process..

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The headlights are made polycarbonate, not acrylic and are MUCH tougher.
> I don't think glass will mold well to some of the exotic shapes currently
> seen in headlights, it would be very difficult to anneal it so it didn't
> fracture from cooling stress, and it won't blow mold as well as plastic --
> some differences in softening point (by about 500 F if I remember
> correctly) and viscosity.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Auction fun

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

So how hard would it be to fix the AMG air bits?  Either some sort 
of stealer bits or bodge up something home brewed?  Is it mechanical 
or electronical or an unholy combo?  Those E55s are hot rods, for a 
few $100 to buy one it seems like it would be worth some rat 
engineering to try to get it sorted.


--R (sent from my miniPad)



That is what I was thinking too.  I don't know how close it is to a 
210.  Most of the 210/211 suspension is the same as the 124, except I 
think at some point they gave up the Mcpherson strut and went back to 
something similar to the 123 and 126.  An upper control arm and a 
shock in the front.


I don't even know what chassis family a 2004 E55 would be.  Perhaps 
the airmatic in the E series was AMG only, so a junkyard car could 
donate suspension components to put it on springs.


But the computers would possibly all go out of whack, and you could 
end up with an unusable yard ornament.  But, I'd guess the AMG engine 
should be worth $2k.


But then there are the 16 other computers and all that crap to fail. 
so I think it would be an exercise in futility, or a boat  (a hole in 
the water into which you dump money)


I doubt it sold for sub 2k, so who knows what kind of deal could be 
made with the lender.  They may be looking for 20 or 30k.  Both cars 
were repos.  It could be simply that the owner crawled under and 
snipped an air line.  Clearly the dealers were all scared of it.  I 
didn't see the "MB guy" around.  He is a character.  The women say he 
spends more on hair and cosmetics than most women do.


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Re: [MBZ] Auction fun

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On the AMG, I would guess the the RTW cars get springs for the E 
class.  But the question is if you can fool or disable the computer, 
or will it tell the other computers the car is screwed so it won't 
run at all or in limp mode only.


On the S, Maybe all of them are on air.  Airlift makes good airbags. 
I am not afraid of airbag suspension.  It is all the sensors and 
computers I don't want to deal with.


4 airbags, some tubing and valves, and a small 12 v air compressor, a 
pressure gauge, and a couple of switches make a GOOD air suspension 
system.  Most of the pilipino boyz in Honolulu have them.


MB has managed to take a reliable system and turn it into a 
nightmare, proven by Clay's experience with a stealer, who could not 
fix it, but COULD screw it up, by adding un-needed computer and 
sensors to it.


'lectronics is good for cheepchinee throwaway radios.  Not so good 
for complex systems subjected daily to extreme heat, cold, vibration, 
shocks and other things that electronic gizmos don't stand up to.



Worst case, could steel springs be bodged into place?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 So how hard would it be to fix the AMG air bits?  Either some sort of
 stealer bits or bodge up something home brewed?  Is it mechanical or
 electronical or an unholy combo?  Those E55s are hot rods, for a few $100
 to buy one it seems like it would be worth some rat engineering to try to
 get it sorted.

 --R (sent from my miniPad)

 On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 The worst cars today:  1.  A pottyak rollerskate of some form.  the front
 of the seat is just a few inches behind the front edge of the door
 opening.  Hard to get into, and extremely difficult to  get out of.  Being
 a ragtop, I could not grab the roof to extract myself.  It basically
 involved rolling overand crawling backwards to get out of the heap.
 2. Some saturn something or other.  Missing, every warning light on, and
 door handles broken.

 On the MB Front:  Got to drive a couple of newer MBs today.  a 2003 S500.
 Rolling on rubber bands, with deflated (airmatic) and missing. It would
 probably have 20 problems on the stealer computer.  Lessee: We used air
 sispension on the old 300SEs, and they got a reputation of being expensive
 to repair.  Many nice 300SEs went to the knacker because the owner thought
 the cost of fixing the air suspension was too much.

 So, Lets put the problem on steroids!  Lets add a while bunch of sensors
 and a computer (all of which break) to this system.  And where the 300SE
 came with block that could be used to keep a car driveable, lets make the
 thing rolloff bait when the airmatic craps out.   On the positive side, the
 other stuff inside the car seemed to work.

 Also drove a 2004 E55 AMG.  No Missing, still rubber band tires, and
 deflated airmatic.

 both cars had trouble getting bids.  The S was in the $2000 range, the AMG
 was around $1500.

 Remember a couple weeks ago there was a S55 AMG with deflated airmatic,
 Clay's stealer who could screw up, but could not fix the airmatic.

 I sure do like my 123s, 124s and 126's!


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Re: [MBZ] Auction fun

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Worst case, could steel springs be bodged into place?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So how hard would it be to fix the AMG air bits?  Either some sort of
> stealer bits or bodge up something home brewed?  Is it mechanical or
> electronical or an unholy combo?  Those E55s are hot rods, for a few $100
> to buy one it seems like it would be worth some rat engineering to try to
> get it sorted.
>
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> The worst cars today:  1.  A pottyak rollerskate of some form.  the front
> of the seat is just a few inches behind the front edge of the door
> opening.  Hard to get into, and extremely difficult to  get out of.  Being
> a ragtop, I could not grab the roof to extract myself.  It basically
> involved rolling overand crawling backwards to get out of the heap.
> 2. Some saturn something or other.  Missing, every warning light on, and
> door handles broken.
>
> On the MB Front:  Got to drive a couple of newer MBs today.  a 2003 S500.
> Rolling on rubber bands, with deflated (airmatic) and missing. It would
> probably have 20 problems on the stealer computer.  Lessee: We used air
> sispension on the old 300SEs, and they got a reputation of being expensive
> to repair.  Many nice 300SEs went to the knacker because the owner thought
> the cost of fixing the air suspension was too much.
>
> So, Lets put the problem on steroids!  Lets add a while bunch of sensors
> and a computer (all of which break) to this system.  And where the 300SE
> came with block that could be used to keep a car driveable, lets make the
> thing rolloff bait when the airmatic craps out.   On the positive side, the
> other stuff inside the car seemed to work.
>
> Also drove a 2004 E55 AMG.  No Missing, still rubber band tires, and
> deflated airmatic.
>
> both cars had trouble getting bids.  The S was in the $2000 range, the AMG
> was around $1500.
>
> Remember a couple weeks ago there was a S55 AMG with deflated airmatic,
> Clay's stealer who could screw up, but could not fix the airmatic.
>
> I sure do like my 123s, 124s and 126's!
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Prastic MBs

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

You do need to watch the thickness of the rotor on the ATE rear  
calipers and anything on the front with an anti-rattle spring, as the  
backing plate can hit the spring and cock the piston when the rotor is  
thin.


After the W126, changing rotors is dead easy if they don't stick -- my  
rears are always rusted on and require the application of an acetylene  
torch or driving a few feet with the lug bolts loose to get them off.


Given the ability of those brakes to haul a fast car down to a stop  
incredibly fast, you'd have to be nuts  to complain.  Those brakes  
have saved me considerable damage from two deer collisions and kept me  
out of a nasty accident on the interstate because I stopped faster  
than the car in front of me.  Hard to find fault just because the pads  
need changing sooner than a Toyota.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Auction fun

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So how hard would it be to fix the AMG air bits?  Either some sort of stealer 
bits or bodge up something home brewed?  Is it mechanical or electronical or an 
unholy combo?  Those E55s are hot rods, for a few $100 to buy one it seems like 
it would be worth some rat engineering to try to get it sorted. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:


The worst cars today:  1.  A pottyak rollerskate of some form.  the front of 
the seat is just a few inches behind the front edge of the door opening.  Hard 
to get into, and extremely difficult to  get out of.  Being a ragtop, I could 
not grab the roof to extract myself.  It basically involved rolling overand 
crawling backwards to get out of the heap.
2. Some saturn something or other.  Missing, every warning light on, and door 
handles broken.

On the MB Front:  Got to drive a couple of newer MBs today.  a 2003 S500.  
Rolling on rubber bands, with deflated (airmatic) and missing. It would 
probably have 20 problems on the stealer computer.  Lessee: We used air 
sispension on the old 300SEs, and they got a reputation of being expensive to 
repair.  Many nice 300SEs went to the knacker because the owner thought the 
cost of fixing the air suspension was too much.

So, Lets put the problem on steroids!  Lets add a while bunch of sensors and a 
computer (all of which break) to this system.  And where the 300SE came with 
block that could be used to keep a car driveable, lets make the thing rolloff 
bait when the airmatic craps out.   On the positive side, the other stuff 
inside the car seemed to work.

Also drove a 2004 E55 AMG.  No Missing, still rubber band tires, and deflated 
airmatic.

both cars had trouble getting bids.  The S was in the $2000 range, the AMG was 
around $1500.

Remember a couple weeks ago there was a S55 AMG with deflated airmatic, Clay's 
stealer who could screw up, but could not fix the airmatic.

I sure do like my 123s, 124s and 126's!


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Re: [MBZ] Prastic MBs

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I don't understand why people complain about MB brakes so much -- if 
you drive like you half way intelligent, they last pretty much 
forever, and I replace rotors every third pad change.


Since I get about 100,000 miles on a set of pads, I've only put 
rotors on any of my cars once, will have to replace one on the TE 
because the caliper rusted up and ate a rear one, the other side and 
the fronts look pretty good after 50,000 miles and the pads are fine.


Put over 100,000 miles on the clutch in my Dodge Aries, too with no trouble.

Peter


I agree, and I've never had any problem with squealing brakes in an 
MB either.  This guy seems to work on much newer cars, but the brake 
pads he showed look the same as in my mid 80s cars.


The rotor ridges are a very minor annoyance when changing pads. 
Certainly nothing worth his long rant.


I put something like 230k on my first SDL and never put rotors on, 
nor did it need it.


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Re: [MBZ] Prastic MBs

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I don't understand why people complain about MB brakes so much -- if  
you drive like you half way intelligent, they last pretty much  
forever, and I replace rotors every third pad change.


Since I get about 100,000 miles on a set of pads, I've only put rotors  
on any of my cars once, will have to replace one on the TE because the  
caliper rusted up and ate a rear one, the other side and the fronts  
look pretty good after 50,000 miles and the pads are fine.


Put over 100,000 miles on the clutch in my Dodge Aries, too with no  
trouble.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The headlights are made polycarbonate, not acrylic and are MUCH  
tougher.  I don't think glass will mold well to some of the exotic  
shapes currently seen in headlights, it would be very difficult to  
anneal it so it didn't fracture from cooling stress, and it won't blow  
mold as well as plastic -- some differences in softening point (by  
about 500 F if I remember correctly) and viscosity.


Peter

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[MBZ] Prastic MBs

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I disagree with his rant about brakes.  I have only once changed 2 
brake rotors in several hundred thousand miles in MBs.  The ridge is 
no big deal, on more than once I have got out the grinder and ground 
the ridges off.  The rotors will outlast 3-4 sets of pads.


However the rant about the computers and the rubber band tires are right on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJ64sTa7KI

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[MBZ] Auction fun

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The worst cars today:  1.  A pottyak rollerskate of some form.  the 
front of the seat is just a few inches behind the front edge of the 
door opening.  Hard to get into, and extremely difficult to  get out 
of.  Being a ragtop, I could not grab the roof to extract myself.  It 
basically involved rolling overand crawling backwards to get out of 
the heap.
2. Some saturn something or other.  Missing, every warning light on, 
and door handles broken.


On the MB Front:  Got to drive a couple of newer MBs today.  a 2003 
S500.  Rolling on rubber bands, with deflated (airmatic) and missing. 
It would probably have 20 problems on the stealer computer.  Lessee: 
We used air sispension on the old 300SEs, and they got a reputation 
of being expensive to repair.  Many nice 300SEs went to the knacker 
because the owner thought the cost of fixing the air suspension was 
too much.


So, Lets put the problem on steroids!  Lets add a while bunch of 
sensors and a computer (all of which break) to this system.  And 
where the 300SE came with block that could be used to keep a car 
driveable, lets make the thing rolloff bait when the airmatic craps 
out.   On the positive side, the other stuff inside the car seemed to 
work.


Also drove a 2004 E55 AMG.  No Missing, still rubber band tires, and 
deflated airmatic.


both cars had trouble getting bids.  The S was in the $2000 range, 
the AMG was around $1500.


Remember a couple weeks ago there was a S55 AMG with deflated 
airmatic, Clay's stealer who could screw up, but could not fix the 
airmatic.


I sure do like my 123s, 124s and 126's!


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Re: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Wilton,
Crack is a street name for what is basically rock cocaine crystals, or
cocaine that is distilled to a crystalline form.. it is "more pure" than
powdered form, thus it's effect is stronger, addiction is virtually
instant, and it commands a higher price.. Perfect storm for your local drug
dealers.

I think...  No personal experience with it's use, sale, or manufacture.. so
that information is only what the big boys in Cell Block A told me.. ;))

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> BTW, for you experts on the subject:  What is crack, and what's the
> difference between it and heroin?
> Yep, ignorance, at least on some subjects, is bliss.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:13 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one
>
>
> Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems many
>> of you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability to
>> retrieve it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of these
>> vehicles on CL "may well be questionable", the seller has every right to
>> try to fool you in order to get your money. So...if you buy the
>> vehicle, it may not be the seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try
>> to stay drug free and think rationally :-
>> Just sayin'
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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[MBZ] Stupid ideas

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I wish the decision makers at MB, dogde, toada, Nitsan and others 
would see this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbhHcxscu4Q

The electronic "keys" are the solution to a problem that does not 
exist, but they create lots of profit opportunities for the stealer.


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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> K'leb sez:  I think that is AA, not AAA.  This list is just full of crack
>> heads, meth heads, and drunks it seems.
>>
>> On 2/17/2016 8:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> I've been getting a lot out of their meetings, but I'm stuck at step 3.
>>>
>>
> And don't forget we have at least 2 resident okies!
>

Where's the upvote button?   :D
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Make that 6x8

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:27 PM
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> Cc: Scott Ritchey 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses
> 
> Yeahbut, isn't that also true about a plastic/glass/metal/ceramic/etc.
> reflector behind a glass lens?  For years, I've used Hella enclosures that
fit a
> standard 6x6 mount with replaceable bulbs in my 126.
> 
> I know Euro-style lights are real popular on this list but I still prefer
crystal-
> clear glass that can be cheaply replaced with new just about anywhere.  I
just
> wish DOT had not frozen headlight development for so long.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> >
> > They can be molded into all sorts of weird shapes.  ...
> >
> > Peter
> 
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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I've had AAA forever, don't recall which level.  Before smart phones and
GPS, their maps and tour books were quite useful.  The roadside assistance
is insurance; I used it twice in 40 years:  once when keys got locked in the
car and once when SWMBO experienced a flat tire while a passenger in someone
else's car.  So how capable are you and your dependents and what is peace of
mind worth?  In my case, I give AAA annual membership to the daughter unit
(who lives on the other coast) every Christmas.

AAA is probably best known, but there are many similar services from other
organizations.  For example, Andrew may prefer the plan from the NRA.

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> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] AAA
> 
> I have never had AAA but get mailers every once in a while. Thinking about
> signing up.  Does anybody have it and is it worth it?  What level do you
have?
> I think it used to be unlimited tows in a year up to a certain distance
but I see
> even the top level is only 4 a year up to 100 miles and 1 a year up to
200.
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Yeahbut, isn't that also true about a plastic/glass/metal/ceramic/etc.
reflector behind a glass lens?  For years, I've used Hella enclosures that
fit a standard 6x6 mount with replaceable bulbs in my 126.

I know Euro-style lights are real popular on this list but I still prefer
crystal-clear glass that can be cheaply replaced with new just about
anywhere.  I just wish DOT had not frozen headlight development for so long.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> 
> They can be molded into all sorts of weird shapes.  ...
> 
> Peter



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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

K'leb sez:  I think that is AA, not AAA.  This list is just full of 
crack heads, meth heads, and drunks it seems.


On 2/17/2016 8:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I've been getting a lot out of their meetings, but I'm stuck at step 3.


And don't forget we have at least 2 resident okies!

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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have a towing rider on my Geico auto policy.  Quite reasonable, IIRC
about $15.00 pe vehicle.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:27 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> Hee!
>
> Been a Plus member for years; comes in handy a couple times a year for tire
> changes, running out of gas, serpentine belt breaking, that sorta thing...
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been getting a lot out of their meetings, but I'm stuck at step 3.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On February 17, 2016 8:54:03 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >I have never had AAA but get mailers every once in a while. Thinking
> > >about signing up.  Does anybody have it and is it worth it?  What level
> > >
> > >do you have?  I think it used to be unlimited tows in a year up to a
> > >certain distance but I see even the top level is only 4 a year up to
> > >100
> > >miles and 1 a year up to 200.
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

They can be molded into all sorts of weird shapes.  Actual 
illumination of the road these days seems to be achieved by just 
upping the output.


They are also supposed to be "safer" because they don't break when 
hit bit stones.  Of course, I've never had a headlight broken OUT by 
a stone, just some chips.


Peter


RE: you first point!
Uh!   Glass is silica in a liquid state.  Glass can be made into any 
of the same shapes as the prastic junk.

Point 1 is bogus.  Prastic may be cheaper, or may not be.

I take issue with point #2 also.  The prastic surrounds on 123, 124 
and 126 break far easier than the glass light


My conclusion:  the prastic lenses are just one of hundreds of ways 
the 210, 140 and later mbs are junk.


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Re: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Both are to be avoided.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have no clue. For me crack is a generic term for drug use.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > BTW, for you experts on the subject:  What is crack, and what's the
> difference between it and heroin?
> > Yep, ignorance, at least on some subjects, is bliss.
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:13 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one
> >
> >
> >> Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems
> many of you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability
> to retrieve it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of
> these vehicles on CL "may well be questionable", the seller has every right
> to try to fool you in order to get your money. So...if you buy the
> vehicle, it may not be the seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try
> to stay drug free and think rationally :-
> >> Just sayin'
> >> Best Wishes,
> >> Roger
> >> Roger Hale
> >> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >> Monroe, Ga.
> >> 770-267-0850
> >> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Cat food was Restoring headlight lenses....

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He is a regular kitty and we use World's Best Litter, which is pretty
awesome for its clumping qualities.  I spray deodorizer that is supposed to
"kill" any odors.  He basically eliminates his weight in solid waste every
day.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have fed Iams or Science diet for a long, long time.  Cats are obligate
> carnivores, the more meat and "byproducts" -- guts and trimmings, mostly --
> there is is the food the better.
>
> They cannot digest corn or rice meal very well, and if those things are a
> major ingredient, they will have stinky poop, often serious diarrhea as
> well.
>
> Good stuff costs more, but they eat less and are healthier.
>
> Best food is probably mice
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is a rerun.  The color alone is worth $1500.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 3 owners and no accident.
> In excellent shape by the year!
> Electric Folding mirrors (inside and outside)
> Heather seats
> Power seats w/memory and much more things.
>
> It's loaded with inside folding mirrors and heather seats that have much
> more things!
>
> --R
>
>
> On 2/17/16 5:29 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Not mine.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: ro...@craigslist.org 
>> Sent: 17 February 2016 22:24
>> To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
>> Subject: Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare
>>
>>
>> fred.s...@verizon.net forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>
>> 
>> Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare
>>
>> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5437062532.html
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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Hee!

Been a Plus member for years; comes in handy a couple times a year for tire
changes, running out of gas, serpentine belt breaking, that sorta thing...

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I've been getting a lot out of their meetings, but I'm stuck at step 3.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On February 17, 2016 8:54:03 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >I have never had AAA but get mailers every once in a while. Thinking
> >about signing up.  Does anybody have it and is it worth it?  What level
> >
> >do you have?  I think it used to be unlimited tows in a year up to a
> >certain distance but I see even the top level is only 4 a year up to
> >100
> >miles and 1 a year up to 200.
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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I think that is AA, not AAA.  This list is just full of crack heads, 
meth heads, and drunks it seems.


On 2/17/2016 8:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I've been getting a lot out of their meetings, but I'm stuck at step 3.



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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I've been getting a lot out of their meetings, but I'm stuck at step 3.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 17, 2016 8:54:03 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>I have never had AAA but get mailers every once in a while. Thinking 
>about signing up.  Does anybody have it and is it worth it?  What level
>
>do you have?  I think it used to be unlimited tows in a year up to a 
>certain distance but I see even the top level is only 4 a year up to
>100 
>miles and 1 a year up to 200.
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

They can be molded into all sorts of weird shapes.  Actual  
illumination of the road these days seems to be achieved by just  
upping the output.


They are also supposed to be "safer" because they don't break when hit  
bit stones.  Of course, I've never had a headlight broken OUT by a  
stone, just some chips.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[clay via Mercedes]

I have had AAA for a bunch of years.  Started with the base level that got me 
free 5 mile tow four times a year.  Gas delivery and tire change included.

Next level allowed for 80 mile tows for four or five trips a year.  The AAA 
discounts are handy, and getting TripTic was cool before in car GPS.  Trip 
planner points you to cool places along the road.  

Next level goes to 200 miles and you get all manner of other goodies.  

The membership is per driver, so each person on the account with a card, is 
another charge.  This could be good for Regina, as she breaks cars and needs a 
hitch home.   The member is also able to use benefits for rides they may not be 
driving.  I have three folks on my account in three states far apart.  I had to 
use my account in AK, when SWMBA car had a dead battery in need of jump


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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> I have never had AAA but get mailers every once in a while. Thinking about 
> signing up.  Does anybody have it and is it worth it?  What level do you 
> have?  I think it used to be unlimited tows in a year up to a certain 
> distance but I see even the top level is only 4 a year up to 100 miles and 1 
> a year up to 200.
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

+1
I never understood the allure of plastic lenses,

> -Original Message-
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> fmiser via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:54 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: fmiser 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses
> 
> > Dan wrote:
> >
> > Do realize that once the plastic starts breaking down, you're just
> > postponing the inevitable.
> 
> This is an interesting topic.  I have never yet had to restore the glass
lenses on
> any of my 123 cars...
> 
> I like glass for optics.
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[MBZ] AAA

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have never had AAA but get mailers every once in a while. Thinking 
about signing up.  Does anybody have it and is it worth it?  What level 
do you have?  I think it used to be unlimited tows in a year up to a 
certain distance but I see even the top level is only 4 a year up to 100 
miles and 1 a year up to 200.


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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Restoring headlight lenses....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is the stuff I used to sort out the plastic windows on the SL500 top using 
an RO polisher.  Worked great.

All of my cars have glass headlight lenses so it wouldn’t be of much value on 
them…

Dan


> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I use a Meguiar's product called "PlastX"  Clear plastic cleaner & polish..
> 
> Sponge wheel in a cordless drill and a spray bottle of distilled water..
> spray plastic lens, only use enough product on the wheel that it makes a
> damp paste on the lens and doesn't sling off.  Keep the polishing wheel in
> constant motion.
> 
> When the material starts to look dry, spray with water and repolish..
> repeat until you can wipe the paste off with a trial finger swipe and see
> clear lens.
> 
> Spray with ample water and wipe with soft cloth, turning frequently..
> 
> Repeat as necessary.. badly damaged lens may take more than one polish to
> achieve clarity.
> 
> If you catch it early enough, it's only oxidation of the surface of the
> plastic.. wait, and UV will have damaged the plastic through it's
> thickness...
> 
> One bottle, about $10 at flaps.. enough material to do 50 headlights, or
> your headlights 25 times.  Sponge wheels.. cheap.. Takes about 10 minutes..
> and your night vision will improve.
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[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Congratulations to your son, and to you and your wife. Architecture is a tough 
course.
Gerry
~~
Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:

> I just had a text from my elder son.
> He has received the results of the 2 days of exams that he wrote back in 
> November.
> He passed them all and is now a qualified architect instead of an intern.
> Needless to say, we are thrilled.
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Re: [MBZ] sharing some good news

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And he can appreciate this:

https://youtu.be/DyL5mAqFJds

Dan


> On Feb 17, 2016, at 7:43 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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>> I just had a text from my elder son.
>> He has received the results of the 2 days of exams that he wrote back in 
>> November.
>> He passed them all and is now a qualified architect instead of an intern.
>> Needless to say, we are thrilled.
>> 
>> RB
> 
> Congrats!  Now he can wear bow ties!
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Re: [MBZ] sharing some good news

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I just had a text from my elder son.
He has received the results of the 2 days of exams that he wrote 
back in November.

He passed them all and is now a qualified architect instead of an intern.
Needless to say, we are thrilled.

RB


Congrats!  Now he can wear bow ties!

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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

It also says "Best offer accepted" which means he took less than the 
listing price, which ended the auction.


I'm going to look up those part numbers and see what they cost. With 
my wholesale discount, I might be able to get something good going 
on the side


Dan


Right.  He took $50 and lost $10.

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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Correct - that welder is heavy. Non-prime members had to pay shipping, but
I don't remember what it was.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:44 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > OK wrote:
> >
> > I bought my MIG welder and cart from Amazon ... plus free
> > shipping via Prime
>
> Was the shipping _not_ free for non-Prime members?  Just curious.
>



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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[clay via Mercedes]

I will give that a try.  The clearer I can get the stuff, the better.

clay

On Feb 17, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> Clay,
> 
> I had some real success at taking some cloudiness out of the rear quarter 
> windows on the SL500 with an RO polisher and the Meguires product for clear 
> plastic. Didn't take a lot of work and it's lasted for well over a year.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:17 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> There does need to be some form of plasticizer to allow the old stuff to 
>> stay supple.  
>> 
>> the soft top window on Frosch is fogged.  There are some products available 
>> at marine supply shops to keep their large expanses of plastic window 
>> transparent.  I gave the Griots products a try.  Plastic cleaner and polish. 
>>  Not perfect by a long shot, but it did cut through much of the fog.  A 4" 
>> polishing wheel on a drill did a good start.   Keeping it under 1000rpm and 
>> going in one direction (not using a flat pad) and not staying on one spot 
>> seem best.  The friction warms the plastic as you work.
>> 
>> I have to hit the chandlers for the finish product/topping
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> 3M makes a good one. Try to find one that has a clear coat you apply 
>>> afterwards. That seems to be the key to making it last.
>>> 
>>> Do realize that once the plastic starts breaking down, you're just 
>>> postponing the inevitable.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Who makes the best headlight lens restorer? I have two cars that need
 attention.
 
 Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon - was: Restoring headlight lenses....

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

 > Curt wrote:


 Honestly theres no reasonable excuse for not having
 Amazon prime ... Its $100 and gives free shipping on a ton
 of things, free music, and free videos, its impossible to
 beat.

Fmiser sez:
For $100, I can be patient and "bunch" orders to reach $35
and let it ship slow. 


If I don't use their free music and videos - what do I gain
by parting with that $100?


I am of the latter.

When I ordered a lot of books for classes, I used the wicked lady 
prime.  That was only after my vendor for Micro$haft books was sold 
to time warner.  THen I got a time warner acct and bought there, but 
kept having problems.  SO it ended up Wicked lady with prime was 
cheaper than the wholesale price.  When I stopped buying books, I 
dropped the wicked lady.


I maybe pay $15 a year for shipping from the wicked lady, so no 
prime.  When it was $30 or $45, maybe, but at a $100, NO WAY!


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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

What do people know about MacBook Keeper/  I am getting bombarded with
requests to download it.



DON'T!

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Restoring headlight lenses....

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I found the 3M restorer on sale at Wal Mart for $12. I snagged on and it
worked great. Was able to do both the e320 and the e300 that has been
sitting for several years. The lenses look 100% better.

Bob R


Funny y'all need this.  My 240D, 300D and 300SDL headlights all seem 
to stay clear for some reason!  Must be the water!  (that's what all 
the breweries claim)


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Re: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have no clue. For me crack is a generic term for drug use.

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> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> BTW, for you experts on the subject:  What is crack, and what's the 
> difference between it and heroin?
> Yep, ignorance, at least on some subjects, is bliss.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:13 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one
> 
> 
>> Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems many of 
>> you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability to 
>> retrieve it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of these 
>> vehicles on CL "may well be questionable", the seller has every right to try 
>> to fool you in order to get your money. So...if you buy the vehicle, it 
>> may not be the seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try to stay drug 
>> free and think rationally :-
>> Just sayin'
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] HF inside track

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

YES!


Does HF sell anything at all that isn't made in China??

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 Prices at HF are the most amazing random numbers the world has ever
 known...
 I did finally buy a 3 ton floor jack. Got it on super duper sale, I think
 I paid $76 where its normally $79 or something like that. I had a STACK of
 coupons, everything I bought had a coupon. Ended up saving something like
 $65 total.


 > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Clay,

I had some real success at taking some cloudiness out of the rear quarter 
windows on the SL500 with an RO polisher and the Meguires product for clear 
plastic. Didn't take a lot of work and it's lasted for well over a year.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:17 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> There does need to be some form of plasticizer to allow the old stuff to stay 
> supple.  
> 
> the soft top window on Frosch is fogged.  There are some products available 
> at marine supply shops to keep their large expanses of plastic window 
> transparent.  I gave the Griots products a try.  Plastic cleaner and polish.  
> Not perfect by a long shot, but it did cut through much of the fog.  A 4" 
> polishing wheel on a drill did a good start.   Keeping it under 1000rpm and 
> going in one direction (not using a flat pad) and not staying on one spot 
> seem best.  The friction warms the plastic as you work.
> 
> I have to hit the chandlers for the finish product/topping
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> 3M makes a good one. Try to find one that has a clear coat you apply 
>> afterwards. That seems to be the key to making it last.
>> 
>> Do realize that once the plastic starts breaking down, you're just 
>> postponing the inevitable.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Who makes the best headlight lens restorer? I have two cars that need
>>> attention.
>>> 
>>> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I bought glass covers for the Golf, which I will install some time  
when I feel like taking the bumper cover and radiator support off.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] sharing some good news

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That's great! Please give him congratulations!

So when will he start designing your retirement home?



Dan

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> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> I just had a text from my elder son.
> He has received the results of the 2 days of exams that he wrote back in 
> November.
> He passed them all and is now a qualified architect instead of an intern.
> Needless to say, we are thrilled.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cat food was Restoring headlight lenses....

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I have fed Iams or Science diet for a long, long time.  Cats are  
obligate carnivores, the more meat and "byproducts" -- guts and  
trimmings, mostly -- there is is the food the better.


They cannot digest corn or rice meal very well, and if those things  
are a major ingredient, they will have stinky poop, often serious  
diarrhea as well.


Good stuff costs more, but they eat less and are healthier.

Best food is probably mice

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Avoid MacKeeper like the plague, it appear to be malware.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Give them two coats of clearcoat when you have them cleaned up.  The  
UV protectant is a thin layer added during extrusion of the sheet used  
to make the covers, and you have just polished it off.  They will  
cloud and yellow very quickly without protection, and clearcoat is  
probably the best thing going.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] sharing some good news

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!  Congrats.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:53 PM
Subject: [MBZ] sharing some good news



I just had a text from my elder son.
He has received the results of the 2 days of exams that he wrote back in 
November.

He passed them all and is now a qualified architect instead of an intern.
Needless to say, we are thrilled.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I just bought all those parts and it was about $58 from what I remember. I 
offered the guy $65 and he countered back with $240 or something like that. I 
got an email that said it sold for the asking price but who knows.

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> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It also says "Best offer accepted" which means he took less than the listing 
> price, which ended the auction.
> 
> I'm going to look up those part numbers and see what they cost. With my 
> wholesale discount, I might be able to get something good going on the 
> side
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 17/02/2016 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
>> it sort of suggests he may not have sold it
>> the ad says he has re-listed it or one like it
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Don't they get replaced when the bulb burns out? Oh, maybe you have euro 
lenses, those aren't sealed beam right?
I like round headlights...
-Curt

  From: fmiser via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: fmiser 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses
   
> Dan wrote:
> 
> Do realize that once the plastic starts breaking down,
> you're just postponing the inevitable.

This is an interesting topic.  I have never yet had to
restore the glass lenses on any of my 123 cars...

I like glass for optics.

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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:
> 
> Do realize that once the plastic starts breaking down,
> you're just postponing the inevitable.

This is an interesting topic.  I have never yet had to
restore the glass lenses on any of my 123 cars...

I like glass for optics.

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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A few years ago I was buying snowmobile carb rebuild kits from the shop down 
the road for $25 each and selling them on eBay for $40 plus shipping.
I stumbled onto it when I had a leftover kit from a machine I'd sold so I 
chucked it on eBay and was stunned when it brought more than I'd paid for it.
When we first moved into the house finances were tight and that was a terrific 
sideline. I sold about 1 a week, it took us out to dinner a couple times a 
month...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this
   
It also says "Best offer accepted" which means he took less than the listing 
price, which ended the auction.

I'm going to look up those part numbers and see what they cost. With my 
wholesale discount, I might be able to get something good going on the side

Dan

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> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 17/02/2016 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
> it sort of suggests he may not have sold it
> the ad says he has re-listed it or one like it
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[clay via Mercedes]

Cacaine based v. Opium derived.  Both will provide numbing effects.  

Crack will increase heart rate, while heroin does not.

clay

On Feb 17, 2016, at 3:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

> BTW, for you experts on the subject:  What is crack, and what's the 
> difference between it and heroin?
> Yep, ignorance, at least on some subjects, is bliss.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:13 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one
> 
> 
>> Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems many of 
>> you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability to 
>> retrieve it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of these 
>> vehicles on CL "may well be questionable", the seller has every right to try 
>> to fool you in order to get your money. So...if you buy the vehicle, it 
>> may not be the seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try to stay drug 
>> free and think rationally :-
>> Just sayin'
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[WILTON via Mercedes]

BTW, for you experts on the subject:  What is crack, and what's the 
difference between it and heroin?

Yep, ignorance, at least on some subjects, is bliss.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" 

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Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one


Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems many 
of you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability to 
retrieve it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of these 
vehicles on CL "may well be questionable", the seller has every right to 
try to fool you in order to get your money. So...if you buy the 
vehicle, it may not be the seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try 
to stay drug free and think rationally :-

Just sayin'
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It also says "Best offer accepted" which means he took less than the listing 
price, which ended the auction.

I'm going to look up those part numbers and see what they cost. With my 
wholesale discount, I might be able to get something good going on the side

Dan

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> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 17/02/2016 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
> it sort of suggests he may not have sold it
> the ad says he has re-listed it or one like it
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That's "ICE COLD AIR"!

Dan

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> On Feb 17, 2016, at 6:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I take your advice carefully... in fact, crack, which generally leaves the
> user paranoid, thus watchful to the extreme, would not be the drug of
> choice in several of these listings posted..
> 
> Instead I suggest the use of large doses of opiate based drug which sedates
> the senses and blurs vision would be more appropriate. Medically speaking,
> of course..
> 
> Notable, isn't it, no one has listed "air blows cold" lately.. With winter
> in full bloom, it seems an opportune time to make the best of claims for a
> marginal system. Have we no true entrepreneurs left?
> 
> 
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> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:13 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems many
>> of you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability to
>> retrieve it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of these
>> vehicles on CL "may well be questionable", the seller has every right to
>> try to fool you in order to get your money. So...if you buy the
>> vehicle, it may not be the seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try
>> to stay drug free and think rationally :-
>> Just sayin'
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon - was: Restoring headlight lenses....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Correct. But I didn't want a car to be VOR, so having the ability to get the 
part at a competitive price the next day early was well worth it to me.

Again, I used to do the "combine my stuff to hit the minimum for free 
shipping", but that rarely got me the goods sooner than 2-3 days. With Prime 
nearly everything I get comes the next day or two days at the very most.

We have a large Amazon distribution center nearby (at which my oldest son 
works) which even has some things delivered the same day, and even on Sundays! 

Dan

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On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:47 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

>> Dan wrote:
>> 
>> However, when I needed a crankshaft position sensor for the
>> S430 a few weeks ago my choices were, in no particular
>> order:
>> 
>> Local MB dealer, next day, over $100, 40 minute 1-way drive
>> 
>> AutohausAZ, Bosch, $50 + $15 next day (would probably not
>> go out the same day the order was placed)
>> 
>> Any number of aftermarket suppliers, pretty much the same
>> as the AutohausAZ deal
>> 
>> Amazon, Bosch, $40, no shipping charges, delivered the next
>> morning
> 
> I haven't ever used Prime.  But from when I originally
> researched it years ago, it seem to provide no benefit except
> faster shipping or no minimum purchase for the free shipping.
> 
> In your case, I could have gotten the same deal - but a
> couple days slower - without Prime, right?
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[MBZ] headlight lense sealer

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Has anyone tried this stuff?

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Magic-730-6-Headlight-Sealer/dp/B0051PJWQW/ref=pd_bxgy_263_img_2?ie=UTF8=06ZP6PNHW43WBVCQER7P

RB

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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, I see the band on the photo that says "sold" but we don't know 
that he got what he was asking do we?


RB


On 17/02/2016 5:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

You miss the part where it says "Sold, best offer accepted"?At the very top it 
says the auction has ended and that he's got another listing, it doesn't say why it was 
ended, you need to scroll down for that...
-Curt

   From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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Cc: Randy Bennell 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

On 17/02/2016 4:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

This one is listed as sold and he has listed another set.  Heck I
guess I need to start spending $60 to buy all those parts and sell
them for $250.

On 2/17/2016 4:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 17/02/2016 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649



it sort of suggests he may not have sold it
the ad says he has re-listed it or one like it

RB


I don't see that but I will take your word for it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Cat food was Restoring headlight lenses....

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats Halo food right? We tried Buster on it and it gave him terrible gas, he 
smelled awful. We use the Dick Van Patten stuff now. Turns out our dog has 
allergies so he gets the limited ingredient stuff.
-Curt

  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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Cc: Max Dillon 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:06 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Cat food was Restoring headlight lenses
   
Andrew,

How badly does the cat "waste" smell with that food?

SWMBO recently switched our two cats to Iams brand, and cleaning up the cat box 
is a much much more pleasant experience now.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 17, 2016 12:34:25 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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>My cat only gets the best - Spot's Stew salmon dry food.  Costs more
>than
>steak, but he never tires of it, and boy is he healthy.
>

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Re: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So maybe instead of smoking crack these sellers have been smoking heroin?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I take your advice carefully... in fact, crack, which generally leaves the
> user paranoid, thus watchful to the extreme, would not be the drug of
> choice in several of these listings posted..
> 
> Instead I suggest the use of large doses of opiate based drug which sedates
> the senses and blurs vision would be more appropriate. Medically speaking,
> of course..
> 
> Notable, isn't it, no one has listed "air blows cold" lately.. With winter
> in full bloom, it seems an opportune time to make the best of claims for a
> marginal system. Have we no true entrepreneurs left?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:13 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems many
>> of you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability to
>> retrieve it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of these
>> vehicles on CL "may well be questionable", the seller has every right to
>> try to fool you in order to get your money. So...if you buy the
>> vehicle, it may not be the seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try
>> to stay drug free and think rationally :-
>> Just sayin'
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I take your advice carefully... in fact, crack, which generally leaves the
user paranoid, thus watchful to the extreme, would not be the drug of
choice in several of these listings posted..

Instead I suggest the use of large doses of opiate based drug which sedates
the senses and blurs vision would be more appropriate. Medically speaking,
of course..

Notable, isn't it, no one has listed "air blows cold" lately.. With winter
in full bloom, it seems an opportune time to make the best of claims for a
marginal system. Have we no true entrepreneurs left?



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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:13 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems many
> of you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability to
> retrieve it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of these
> vehicles on CL "may well be questionable", the seller has every right to
> try to fool you in order to get your money. So...if you buy the
> vehicle, it may not be the seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try
> to stay drug free and think rationally :-
> Just sayin'
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>
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[MBZ] Cat food was Restoring headlight lenses....

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Andrew,

How badly does the cat "waste" smell with that food?

SWMBO recently switched our two cats to Iams brand, and cleaning up the cat box 
is a much much more pleasant experience now.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 17, 2016 12:34:25 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>My cat only gets the best - Spot's Stew salmon dry food.  Costs more
>than
>steak, but he never tires of it, and boy is he healthy.
>

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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You miss the part where it says "Sold, best offer accepted"?At the very top it 
says the auction has ended and that he's got another listing, it doesn't say 
why it was ended, you need to scroll down for that...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this
   
On 17/02/2016 4:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> This one is listed as sold and he has listed another set.  Heck I 
> guess I need to start spending $60 to buy all those parts and sell 
> them for $250.
>
> On 2/17/2016 4:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> On 17/02/2016 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>> it sort of suggests he may not have sold it
>> the ad says he has re-listed it or one like it
>>
>> RB
>>
I don't see that but I will take your word for it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 17/02/2016 4:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
This one is listed as sold and he has listed another set.  Heck I 
guess I need to start spending $60 to buy all those parts and sell 
them for $250.


On 2/17/2016 4:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 17/02/2016 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649 




it sort of suggests he may not have sold it
the ad says he has re-listed it or one like it

RB


I don't see that but I will take your word for it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] sharing some good news

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!

On 2/17/2016 4:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

I just had a text from my elder son.
He has received the results of the 2 days of exams that he wrote back 
in November.

He passed them all and is now a qualified architect instead of an intern.
Needless to say, we are thrilled.

RB

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[MBZ] sharing some good news

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I just had a text from my elder son.
He has received the results of the 2 days of exams that he wrote back in 
November.

He passed them all and is now a qualified architect instead of an intern.
Needless to say, we are thrilled.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This one is listed as sold and he has listed another set.  Heck I guess 
I need to start spending $60 to buy all those parts and sell them for $250.


On 2/17/2016 4:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 17/02/2016 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649 




it sort of suggests he may not have sold it
the ad says he has re-listed it or one like it

RB

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Re: [MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 17/02/2016 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649 




it sort of suggests he may not have sold it
the ad says he has re-listed it or one like it

RB

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Re: [MBZ] HF inside track

[G Mann via Mercedes]

China . you know USA before child labor laws, product liability
laws, EPA regulations, OSHA regulations, Unions, back when you really could
buy a politician... before copyright laws and patent laws..yeah.. THAT
China..

Or.. as we call it here.. WalMart East...

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OUR China is good, the commies are bad though we can get a lot of
> cheepchit from them.
>
> --R
>
> On 2/17/16 3:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Who likes China these days anyway?  What's to like?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> yes, not the commies
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 2/17/16 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> You meanTaiwan?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>> 
>> >>
>> wrote:
>>
>> butbutbut that's OUR China!!!
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 2/17/16 12:24 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> 'Drew, or Andy, or as he prefers,
>> Andrew, inquires‎:
>>
>> ‎>Does HF sell anything at all that >isn't made in China??
>>
>> Yes. Their ratchets are made in Taiwan as are a few other
>> things. The ratchet quality rivals the top "tool truck"
>> brands, IMHO.
>>
>> "Made In Taiwan" usually means a standard of quality not
>> achieved in China or other emerging countries.
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Restoring headlight lenses....

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I use a Meguiar's product called "PlastX"  Clear plastic cleaner & polish..

Sponge wheel in a cordless drill and a spray bottle of distilled water..
spray plastic lens, only use enough product on the wheel that it makes a
damp paste on the lens and doesn't sling off.  Keep the polishing wheel in
constant motion.

When the material starts to look dry, spray with water and repolish..
repeat until you can wipe the paste off with a trial finger swipe and see
clear lens.

Spray with ample water and wipe with soft cloth, turning frequently..

Repeat as necessary.. badly damaged lens may take more than one polish to
achieve clarity.

If you catch it early enough, it's only oxidation of the surface of the
plastic.. wait, and UV will have damaged the plastic through it's
thickness...

One bottle, about $10 at flaps.. enough material to do 50 headlights, or
your headlights 25 times.  Sponge wheels.. cheap.. Takes about 10 minutes..
and your night vision will improve.

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> I use a sponge wheel chucked in a cordless drill and toothpaste.
>
> Brings a whole new meaning to "Aim"-ing your headlights...  ;D
>
> -MMM-
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Bob via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Who makes the best headlight lens restorer? I have two cars that  need
> > attention
> >
> > I used polishing compound while wet sanding. First wet sand with 1000
> grit
> > wet sandpaper one way[horizontally],then use 1500 wet sandpaper the other
> > way at  90 degrees perpendicular[vertically]. Then again with 2000 wet
> > sandpaper  horizontally. You're supposed to do it again with 2500
> > vertically but I
> > only did  the first 3 steps. Afterwards I waxed it . Turned out good on
> my
> > sis's 2005  Nissan Altima .[ I didn't have the 2500 paper] A little elbow
> > grease of  course !!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

3 owners and no accident.
In excellent shape by the year!
Electric Folding mirrors (inside and outside)
Heather seats
Power seats w/memory and much more things.

It's loaded with inside folding mirrors and heather seats that have much 
more things!


--R

On 2/17/16 5:29 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Not mine.

Fred



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare

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looks like it is in good shape.

On 2/17/2016 4:29 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Not mine.

Fred



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[MBZ] some moron actually bought this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231842683640?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649 



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Re: [MBZ] HF inside track

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

OUR China is good, the commies are bad though we can get a lot of 
cheepchit from them.


--R

On 2/17/16 3:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Who likes China these days anyway?  What's to like?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:


yes, not the commies

--R

On 2/17/16 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

You meanTaiwan?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes

>>
wrote:

butbutbut that's OUR China!!!

--R

On 2/17/16 12:24 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

'Drew, or Andy, or as he prefers,
Andrew, inquires‎:

‎>Does HF sell anything at all that >isn't made in China??

Yes. Their ratchets are made in Taiwan as are a few other
things. The ratchet quality rivals the top "tool truck"
brands, IMHO.

"Made In Taiwan" usually means a standard of quality not
achieved in China or other emerging countries.

Rick
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[MBZ] Fw: Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Not mine.

Fred



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Re: [MBZ] Optima batteries?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

That was my understanding too but searches on the TDI club showed me a lot of 
hate for Optima. Apparently they offshored their production somewhere early in 
the 2000s and quality went in the toilet.
-Curt

  From: fmiser 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Curt Raymond 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Optima batteries?
   
> Curt wrote:
> 
> Anybody got an opinion on Optima batteries? 

They are sturdy, and the AGM construction means they can't
spill.

As I understand, the spiral design results in higher internal
impedance which is a main factor in the currant flow in
high-load situations - like starting a diesel with plugs
glowing when it's cold.


   
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Restoring headlight lenses....

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I found the 3M restorer on sale at Wal Mart for $12. I snagged on and it
worked great. Was able to do both the e320 and the e300 that has been
sitting for several years. The lenses look 100% better.

Bob R
On Feb 17, 2016 1:59 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
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> I use a sponge wheel chucked in a cordless drill and toothpaste.
>
> Brings a whole new meaning to "Aim"-ing your headlights...  ;D
>
> -MMM-
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Bob via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Who makes the best headlight lens restorer? I have two cars that  need
> > attention
> >
> > I used polishing compound while wet sanding. First wet sand with 1000
> grit
> > wet sandpaper one way[horizontally],then use 1500 wet sandpaper the other
> > way at  90 degrees perpendicular[vertically]. Then again with 2000 wet
> > sandpaper  horizontally. You're supposed to do it again with 2500
> > vertically but I
> > only did  the first 3 steps. Afterwards I waxed it . Turned out good on
> my
> > sis's 2005  Nissan Altima .[ I didn't have the 2500 paper] A little elbow
> > grease of  course !!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon - was: Restoring headlight lenses....

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:
> 
> However, when I needed a crankshaft position sensor for the
> S430 a few weeks ago my choices were, in no particular
> order:
> 
> Local MB dealer, next day, over $100, 40 minute 1-way drive
> 
> AutohausAZ, Bosch, $50 + $15 next day (would probably not
> go out the same day the order was placed)
> 
> Any number of aftermarket suppliers, pretty much the same
> as the AutohausAZ deal
> 
> Amazon, Bosch, $40, no shipping charges, delivered the next
> morning

I haven't ever used Prime.  But from when I originally
researched it years ago, it seem to provide no benefit except
faster shipping or no minimum purchase for the free shipping.

In your case, I could have gotten the same deal - but a
couple days slower - without Prime, right?

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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> OK wrote:
> 
> I bought my MIG welder and cart from Amazon ... plus free
> shipping via Prime

Was the shipping _not_ free for non-Prime members?  Just curious.

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Re: [MBZ] Restoring headlight lenses....

[clay via Mercedes]

There does need to be some form of plasticizer to allow the old stuff to stay 
supple.  

the soft top window on Frosch is fogged.  There are some products available at 
marine supply shops to keep their large expanses of plastic window transparent. 
 I gave the Griots products a try.  Plastic cleaner and polish.  Not perfect by 
a long shot, but it did cut through much of the fog.  A 4" polishing wheel on a 
drill did a good start.   Keeping it under 1000rpm and going in one direction 
(not using a flat pad) and not staying on one spot seem best.  The friction 
warms the plastic as you work.

I have to hit the chandlers for the finish product/topping

clay


On Feb 17, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> 3M makes a good one. Try to find one that has a clear coat you apply 
> afterwards. That seems to be the key to making it last.
> 
> Do realize that once the plastic starts breaking down, you're just postponing 
> the inevitable.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Who makes the best headlight lens restorer? I have two cars that need
>> attention.
>> 
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[MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Guys, I'm starting to worry about the members of this list. It seems many of 
you know way too much about crack...and more shocking, the ability to retrieve 
it from a certain female body part. I realize that some of these vehicles on CL 
"may well be questionable", the seller has every right to try to fool you in 
order to get your money. So...if you buy the vehicle, it may not be the 
seller on crack, but rather the purchaser. Try to stay drug free and think 
rationally :- 
Just sayin' 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Restoring headlight lenses....

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I use a sponge wheel chucked in a cordless drill and toothpaste.

Brings a whole new meaning to "Aim"-ing your headlights...  ;D

-MMM-

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wrote:

> Who makes the best headlight lens restorer? I have two cars that  need
> attention
>
> I used polishing compound while wet sanding. First wet sand with 1000 grit
> wet sandpaper one way[horizontally],then use 1500 wet sandpaper the other
> way at  90 degrees perpendicular[vertically]. Then again with 2000 wet
> sandpaper  horizontally. You're supposed to do it again with 2500
> vertically but I
> only did  the first 3 steps. Afterwards I waxed it . Turned out good on my
> sis's 2005  Nissan Altima .[ I didn't have the 2500 paper] A little elbow
> grease of  course !!
>
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Re: [MBZ] A Real European Mercedes

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South America? Wow. I would have liked to have got that car but the timing was 
all wrong for me.

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> On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> 
> Yeah, it's gone... To South America I think.
> 
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Especially if it's green on green. Btw did Alvaro ever sell that 124 of
>> his?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, that is a euro spec 380, which is a great car btw
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
 If it's "real European, why does it have US spec headlights?
 
 Greg
 
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 Hmm. As opposed to a...?
 
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5410033620.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] A Real European Mercedes

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Yeah, it's gone... To South America I think.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Especially if it's green on green. Btw did Alvaro ever sell that 124 of
> his?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >
> > Well, that is a euro spec 380, which is a great car btw
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >
> >> If it's "real European, why does it have US spec headlights?
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
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> >> Penoff via Mercedes
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> >>
> >> Hmm. As opposed to a...?
> >>
> >> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5410033620.html
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Re: [MBZ] A Real European Mercedes

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Especially if it's green on green. Btw did Alvaro ever sell that 124 of his?

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> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
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>> If it's "real European, why does it have US spec headlights?
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
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>> 
>> Hmm. As opposed to a...?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Real European Mercedes

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Well, that is a euro spec 380, which is a great car btw

Jaime


On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
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> If it's "real European, why does it have US spec headlights?
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> Hmm. As opposed to a...?
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> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5410033620.html
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Re: [MBZ] A Real European Mercedes

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

If it's "real European, why does it have US spec headlights?

Greg

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Hmm. As opposed to a...?

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5410033620.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] HF inside track

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> Who likes China these days anyway?  What's to like?

Well...  That same question is true for United States of America, no?
What's to like?
Hillary for Prez, Barack for SCOTUS...
or
Trump for Prez, Santorum for SCOTUS...
yer pick - what's to like?
jobs? - same pickle.
etc...
Yeah - we need a world war to fling our kids on the bayonet and bring
American pride and success back to life.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] HF inside track

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Tom Friedman likes China. They don't have to be concerned with what the voters 
think when they take actions for the Greater Good.

Greg

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Who likes China these days anyway?  What's to like?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> yes, not the commies
>
> --R
>
> On 2/17/16 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> You meanTaiwan?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> butbutbut that's OUR China!!!
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 2/17/16 12:24 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> 'Drew, or Andy, or as he prefers,
>> Andrew, inquires‎:
>>
>> ‎>Does HF sell anything at all that >isn't made in China??
>>
>> Yes. Their ratchets are made in Taiwan as are a few other
>> things. The ratchet quality rivals the top "tool truck"
>> brands, IMHO.
>>
>> "Made In Taiwan" usually means a standard of quality not
>> achieved in China or other emerging countries.
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] A Real European Mercedes

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I bet "Mike" is Iranian, short for Mohammed.

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> Hmm. As opposed to a...?
>
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5410033620.html
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Re: [MBZ] A brace of 380SLs

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He only interest buyers.  Bring wampum.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> no text or email can not except. thank you
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5440638434.html
>
> 93pts out of 100pts by Kelley Blue book
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5434578142.html  no pics though
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[MBZ] A Real European Mercedes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hmm. As opposed to a...?

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5410033620.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] HF inside track

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Who likes China these days anyway?  What's to like?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> yes, not the commies
>
> --R
>
> On 2/17/16 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> You meanTaiwan?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> butbutbut that's OUR China!!!
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 2/17/16 12:24 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> 'Drew, or Andy, or as he prefers,
>> Andrew, inquires‎:
>>
>> ‎>Does HF sell anything at all that >isn't made in China??
>>
>> Yes. Their ratchets are made in Taiwan as are a few other
>> things. The ratchet quality rivals the top "tool truck"
>> brands, IMHO.
>>
>> "Made In Taiwan" usually means a standard of quality not
>> achieved in China or other emerging countries.
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Optima batteries?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:
> 
> Anybody got an opinion on Optima batteries? 

They are sturdy, and the AGM construction means they can't
spill.

As I understand, the spiral design results in higher internal
impedance which is a main factor in the currant flow in
high-load situations - like starting a diesel with plugs
glowing when it's cold.

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[MBZ] A brace of 380SLs

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

no text or email can not except. thank you 
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5440638434.html


93pts out of 100pts by Kelley Blue book 
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5434578142.html  no pics though


--R


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[MBZ] The crack is strong in this one

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5452240649.html

--R

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