Re: [MBZ] Big contest
The Big Contest has ended. It was quite exciting, for me at least. Here is the denouement. It was a very close call. I was actually quite pleased at how little I spent compared to my initial guess, which was a couple hundred dollars above actual cost. I probably would have saved $50 if I had the time to order from Autohaus AZ, although not sure if the quality would have been equivalent. Both Napa and Advance Auto were able to have my parts delivered in a day or less. Break down: Two rear rotors from Advance Auto (Brembo brand) - $72.50 Pair of generic hoses, rear brake pads, and rebuilt calipers (Napa) - 331.85 Less core for return of old calipers *(110.12)* Total cost for parts$294.23 3 hrs. labor to install calipers, rotors, hoses, pads$238.94 (includes $13.94 for shop materials) Grand total:$533.17 Entries: OK DON - $380 "Curly" - $496 Curt - $500 ***ACTUAL COST - $533.17*** Randy - $550 Kevin - 630 "Mountain Man" - 830 Congratulations to Randy for being just $16.83 above the actual total. Curt finished second, $33.17 lower. Randy, Winnipeg Customs will probably either confiscate/eat or collect 250% duty on, a jar of artisanal jelly. I can still ship, or let me know a designee (proxy?). I will need a physical address. Thanks to all, Andrew On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:54 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Rich Thomas wrote: > > > The Reapers should be declared a weapon of (potentially) mass > > > destruction. My daughter's boyfriend, who likes pretty hot stuff, > > > tried a bit of one and damn near died. He said it was the most painful > > > thing he had ever experienced. > > > Are they worse than Habaneros? > > Craig > > They are a cross between a ghost pepper and a red habanero. > Gerry > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 TD for sale. Wuz:Steering box.
Too many idiots use TD to mean "turbodiesel". Most 300TDs on CL are NOT wagons. On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 10:48 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > The request was for Good examples. Only one listing was worthy of being > included. Thought there might be interest in other iterations of the model > for list members. > > clay > > On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > > > I only see one TD in that set. > > > > > > > >> PNW examples. A far drive to pick one up > >> > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5413090845.html > >> > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5466566363.html > >> > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5468757946.html > >> > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/5479472527.html > >> > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5471817112.html > >> > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5478579043.html > >> > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5432209731.html > >> > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5467020979.html > >> > >> > >> > >> clay > >> > >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap > >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > >> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: > >> > >>> Andrew wrote: > Sell your 124 and buy a real car - a 123 wagon. > >>> > >>> My son in Nashville wants a W123 wagon. He has done more W123 > >>> wrenching than me - my cars. Show me llinks to good W123 examples, > >>> okiebenz... puleez. > >>> Thanks. > >> > mao > >> > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 TD for sale. Wuz:Steering box.
The request was for Good examples. Only one listing was worthy of being included. Thought there might be interest in other iterations of the model for list members. clay On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > I only see one TD in that set. > > > >> PNW examples. A far drive to pick one up >> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5413090845.html >> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5466566363.html >> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5468757946.html >> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/5479472527.html >> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5471817112.html >> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5478579043.html >> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5432209731.html >> >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5467020979.html >> >> >> >> clay >> >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: >> >>> Andrew wrote: Sell your 124 and buy a real car - a 123 wagon. >>> >>> My son in Nashville wants a W123 wagon. He has done more W123 >>> wrenching than me - my cars. Show me llinks to good W123 examples, >>> okiebenz... puleez. >>> Thanks. >> > mao >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 TD for sale. Wuz:Steering box.
I only see one TD in that set. PNW examples. A far drive to pick one up http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5413090845.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5466566363.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5468757946.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/5479472527.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5471817112.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5478579043.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5432209731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5467020979.html clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: Andrew wrote: Sell your 124 and buy a real car - a 123 wagon. My son in Nashville wants a W123 wagon. He has done more W123 wrenching than me - my cars. Show me llinks to good W123 examples, okiebenz... puleez. Thanks. > mao > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
Here is a really good DIY on Benzworld for a W126, but it’s going to be pretty much the same for everything else in that vintage: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1667020-steering-gearbox-r-r-diy-pictures.html#post5373165 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions
Pulled the KLIMA this evening. It was sealed with clear RTV around the base, which tells me it’s probably not the original. I got it open pretty easily and didn’t find anything amiss inside. The solder joints on the main terminals were pretty tight and looked good, so I didn’t reflow them. I put it back together after giving the relays a shot of contact cleaner and resealed the case. I got AC when I was done, so it’s still working. It had some non-MB stickers on it, so I’m guessing it’s a replacement. Nothing that would identify who it came from, however. I’ve got my hands full with the wife away tending to the mother in law, who had hip surgery today. I’ve got a conference all next week in Orlando, so I’m not digging into anything of substance right now. I’ve got a meter of power steering return line I might install before the weekend, but that will be the extent of my tinkering for a week or so. Dan > On Mar 9, 2016, at 5:50 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > > Yep, 'sounds like the intermittent compressor ops of my 124 'til I replaced > the KLIMA. > > Wilt > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "Dan Penoff" > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions > > >> Drove to the dealer at lunch today to pick up some windshield wiper shaft >> bushings and a couple of tubes of MB windshield washer concentrate. >> >> Got AC and dash/center vents no problem, got pretty chilly. >> >> On the drive home, I got center vents but no AC. Shut off the car at the dry >> cleaners. Got AC and center vents no problem upon restarting. Stopped at >> FLAPS to drop off the alternator core. After leaving, got center vents and >> AC all the way home. >> >> I'm going to put my wiper arms back on this evening, so I'll pull the KLIMA >> and have a look, maybe even reflow the solder joints on it. If it's the >> original, as I suspect it is, I would be willing to bet that it needs >> reflowing and that this is the source of the intermittent compressor >> operation. >> >> Got a meter of power steering return line today, so I'll be replacing the >> original/leaky lines on that, too. >> >> Dan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
Rich Thomas wrote: > > The Reapers should be declared a weapon of (potentially) mass > > destruction. My daughter's boyfriend, who likes pretty hot stuff, > > tried a bit of one and damn near died. He said it was the most painful > > thing he had ever experienced. > Are they worse than Habaneros? > Craig They are a cross between a ghost pepper and a red habanero. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
Peter. Didn't think of the coupler, Doh! I have not yet seen a bad one and my current one is not cracked or ragged, unlike me. Ta very much. Fred. The couplers go bad. First repair I had done on an MB. Took it to the stealer and waited 5 hours. They had it in for 1/2 hr and charged me for 3 hours. Last time a stealer ever worked on one of MY MBs. #1 Daughter's 107 is waiting for the new coupler to be put in. easy job with an M110. impossible with a M116. remove the engine, or remove the steering gearbox. I will opt for the steering gearbox, unless I find a really good M116 with a pretty fresh trans, in which case it might get the engine removal route. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
PNW examples. A far drive to pick one up http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5413090845.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5466566363.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5468757946.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/5479472527.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5471817112.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5478579043.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5432209731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5467020979.html clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: > Andrew wrote: >> Sell your 124 and buy a real car - a 123 wagon. > > My son in Nashville wants a W123 wagon. He has done more W123 > wrenching than me - my cars. Show me llinks to good W123 examples, > okiebenz... puleez. > Thanks. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
$630 Sent from my cell > On Mar 9, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > $496 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 Wagons was Re: Steering box.
https://www.google.com/search?q=300td+site:craigslist.org&num=10&newwindow=1&nomo=1&hl=en&tbs=qdr:m&prmd=ivns&tbas=0&source=lnt&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwidmbzS37TLAhWrlIMKHT6sCaMQpwUIDg Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Original Message From: Mountain Man via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mountain Man Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steering box. Andrew wrote: > Sell your 124 and buy a real car - a 123 wagon. My son in Nashville wants a W123 wagon. He has done more W123 wrenching than me - my cars. Show me llinks to good W123 examples, okiebenz... puleez. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
Peter. Didn't think of the coupler, Doh! I have not yet seen a bad one and my current one is not cracked or ragged, unlike me. Ta very much. Fred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Peter Frederick via Mercedes Sent: 09 March 2016 23:50 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steering box. No real snags. It's heavy (duh) and it is nice to have a helper to start the screws while you wrestle it around. The steering coupler need to be in the same position on the new box as the old if it was removed, and if the rubber is starting to crack on the coupler, this is the time to replace it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
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Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
No real snags. It's heavy (duh) and it is nice to have a helper to start the screws while you wrestle it around. The steering coupler need to be in the same position on the new box as the old if it was removed, and if the rubber is starting to crack on the coupler, this is the time to replace it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nissens
I think somebody posted earlier today they're Danish. I just checked and I think thats true... -Curt From: Mountain Man To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nissens Curt wrote: > That would be true for a no-name brand but Nissens is not that. Thanks for that tidbit. Nissens sounds... Scandinavian? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
$550.00 If I win, I will pick who gets the prize so you don't have to ship over the border. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nissens
Curt wrote: > That would be true for a no-name brand but Nissens is not that. Thanks for that tidbit. Nissens sounds... Scandinavian? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
$830 On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > Only two entries so far with the deadline fast approaching. > > To sweeten the pot I will include a packet of Pinetree Garden's Italian > parsley seeds with the jelly/applesauce. > > Got the car back yesterday. Drives like a dream - worth every penny. I > may keep it forever. > > Andrew > 1983 300TD - No more squealing > 1985 300TD - Needs a new rad > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > >> If I did that there would be no contest. >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> You could have had them all changed out by tonight. Benz breaks are >>> eezy. You need to buy some jack stands and some wrenches and just deal >>> with this stuff. Call Jabba for all the parts then take oober (or, more >>> appropriately, the bus) to work for a coupla days while the parts arrive. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> >>> On 3/8/16 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >>> I will send a prize to whoever guesses closest to the price I will be paying to replace the entire rear brake system in my 1983 300TD. This is for parts AND labor. I finally drove over to my indy to diagnose the horrible screeching braking noise on my white 1983 300TD wagon. A trip up his lift showed that BOTH rear calipers had seized up with a few days of each other, resulting in shot rotors and (of course) pads. The rear hoses were also in need of replacement, since they were quite "original", and not in a good way. Because of the urgency of the work, I did not have the luxury of ordering from a low priced internet catalog, e.g., Autohaus. I relied on local parts chain stores for all the components (e.g., Napa, Advance and the like). The tech charges his labor sort of by the job, but roughly $85/hr. Rules: Contest ends at midnight on Wednesday 3/9/16. Minimum bid separation is $10. Winner is whoever gets closest to the actual amount for parts + labor (above or below). You may break down the various components of your final estimate to illustrate how your final guess was derived. To summarize: Parts - rear brake pads, 2 rear hoses, 2 rear rotors, L and R rebuilt caliper Labor - cost to install these parts Prize winner will receive choice of home made jalapeno or habanero pepper jelly, applesauce, or cranberry applesauce. Apples locally grown in my new front yard. Andrew, spreading largesse. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nissens
That would be true for a no-name brand but Nissens is not that. For less than half the money I wouldn't even consider OEM. When I was first in college I spent a summer as a delivery driver for an auto radiator wholesaler. We pushed our house brand the hardest but considered Nissens and Behr of equal quality. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mountain Man Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nissens Andrew wrote: > The OEM Behr radiators are back in production and just a day or two away. > $421.60 net. " There is no way to know for sure, but I bet OEM at that price will keep you from wrenching radiators at less frequency. Cheaper in the long run. China or aftermarket may be half price but at twice as often, OEM is cheap. However, OEM may be made in china? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
Andrew wrote: > Sell your 124 and buy a real car - a 123 wagon. My son in Nashville wants a W123 wagon. He has done more W123 wrenching than me - my cars. Show me llinks to good W123 examples, okiebenz... puleez. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
Habaneros are nothing...That said don't panfry them in the house with no extra ventilation. Angie learned that lesson the hard way. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Craig Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big contest On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:57:38 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > The Reapers should be declared a weapon of (potentially) mass > destruction. My daughter's boyfriend, who likes pretty hot stuff, > tried a bit of one and damn near died. He said it was the most painful > thing he had ever experienced. Are they worse than Habaneros? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nissens
Andrew wrote: > The OEM Behr radiators are back in production and just a day or two away. > $421.60 net. " There is no way to know for sure, but I bet OEM at that price will keep you from wrenching radiators at less frequency. Cheaper in the long run. China or aftermarket may be half price but at twice as often, OEM is cheap. However, OEM may be made in china? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions
Yep, 'sounds like the intermittent compressor ops of my 124 'til I replaced the KLIMA. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions Drove to the dealer at lunch today to pick up some windshield wiper shaft bushings and a couple of tubes of MB windshield washer concentrate. Got AC and dash/center vents no problem, got pretty chilly. On the drive home, I got center vents but no AC. Shut off the car at the dry cleaners. Got AC and center vents no problem upon restarting. Stopped at FLAPS to drop off the alternator core. After leaving, got center vents and AC all the way home. I'm going to put my wiper arms back on this evening, so I'll pull the KLIMA and have a look, maybe even reflow the solder joints on it. If it's the original, as I suspect it is, I would be willing to bet that it needs reflowing and that this is the source of the intermittent compressor operation. Got a meter of power steering return line today, so I'll be replacing the original/leaky lines on that, too. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: It is next to the OVP They generally say KLIMA on top. I wonder what's in the KLIMA relay that's rebuildable? Can't be much to them if Programa sells a rebuild for $65. Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolver and cap replacement is what's necessary to bring them back into working order? Also, is the KLIMA in the cowl behind the false firewall? I've seen the OVP there. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: All my problems were the KLIMA relay. The Beloved Herr Doktor argued with me, and said the Klimas never failed (in his experience). My experience was that EVERY KLIMA fails. OVP relay can cause wonky problems too. I've never had an OVP relay failYET! > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions
Are you still looking for aspirator fans? clay On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Drove to the dealer at lunch today to pick up some windshield wiper shaft > bushings and a couple of tubes of MB windshield washer concentrate. > > Got AC and dash/center vents no problem, got pretty chilly. > > On the drive home, I got center vents but no AC. Shut off the car at the dry > cleaners. Got AC and center vents no problem upon restarting. Stopped at > FLAPS to drop off the alternator core. After leaving, got center vents and AC > all the way home. > > I'm going to put my wiper arms back on this evening, so I'll pull the KLIMA > and have a look, maybe even reflow the solder joints on it. If it's the > original, as I suspect it is, I would be willing to bet that it needs > reflowing and that this is the source of the intermittent compressor > operation. > > Got a meter of power steering return line today, so I'll be replacing the > original/leaky lines on that, too. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It is next to the OVP They generally say KLIMA on top. >> >>> I wonder what's in the KLIMA relay that's rebuildable? Can't be much to >>> them if Programa sells a rebuild for $65. >>> >>> Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolver and cap replacement is what's >>> necessary to bring them back into working order? >>> >>> Also, is the KLIMA in the cowl behind the false firewall? I've seen the OVP >>> there. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> All my problems were the KLIMA relay. The Beloved Herr Doktor argued with >>> me, and said the Klimas never failed (in his experience). My experience >>> was that EVERY KLIMA fails. OVP relay can cause wonky problems too. I've >>> never had an OVP relay failYET! >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions
Drove to the dealer at lunch today to pick up some windshield wiper shaft bushings and a couple of tubes of MB windshield washer concentrate. Got AC and dash/center vents no problem, got pretty chilly. On the drive home, I got center vents but no AC. Shut off the car at the dry cleaners. Got AC and center vents no problem upon restarting. Stopped at FLAPS to drop off the alternator core. After leaving, got center vents and AC all the way home. I'm going to put my wiper arms back on this evening, so I'll pull the KLIMA and have a look, maybe even reflow the solder joints on it. If it's the original, as I suspect it is, I would be willing to bet that it needs reflowing and that this is the source of the intermittent compressor operation. Got a meter of power steering return line today, so I'll be replacing the original/leaky lines on that, too. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > It is next to the OVP They generally say KLIMA on top. > >> I wonder what's in the KLIMA relay that's rebuildable? Can't be much to them >> if Programa sells a rebuild for $65. >> >> Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolver and cap replacement is what's >> necessary to bring them back into working order? >> >> Also, is the KLIMA in the cowl behind the false firewall? I've seen the OVP >> there. >> >> Dan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> All my problems were the KLIMA relay. The Beloved Herr Doktor argued with >> me, and said the Klimas never failed (in his experience). My experience was >> that EVERY KLIMA fails. OVP relay can cause wonky problems too. I've never >> had an OVP relay failYET! >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions
It is next to the OVP They generally say KLIMA on top. I wonder what's in the KLIMA relay that's rebuildable? Can't be much to them if Programa sells a rebuild for $65. Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolver and cap replacement is what's necessary to bring them back into working order? Also, is the KLIMA in the cowl behind the false firewall? I've seen the OVP there. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: All my problems were the KLIMA relay. The Beloved Herr Doktor argued with me, and said the Klimas never failed (in his experience). My experience was that EVERY KLIMA fails. OVP relay can cause wonky problems too. I've never had an OVP relay failYET! > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
Dan, et al. Used from mb500e on ebay, low miles. I have dealt with him quite a few times and been completely satisfied. He is close by in Conn. Fred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: 09 March 2016 20:35 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steering box. Are you getting a rebuilt box or used? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
Are you getting a rebuilt box or used? Dan Sent from my iPad > On Mar 9, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > Folks. > > I'm about ready to replace the steering box in my W124 300TD. > > There doesn't seem to be any magic to it, though I am open to all useful > comments and advice. > > TIA. > > Fred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box.
Sell your 124 and buy a real car - a 123 wagon. On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Folks. > > I'm about ready to replace the steering box in my W124 300TD. > > There doesn't seem to be any magic to it, though I am open to all useful > comments and advice. > > TIA. > > Fred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Steering box.
Folks. I'm about ready to replace the steering box in my W124 300TD. There doesn't seem to be any magic to it, though I am open to all useful comments and advice. TIA. Fred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nissens
Just heard from Tom Hanson at MBUSA: "Hi Andrew, The OEM Behr radiators are back in production and just a day or two away. $421.60 net. " On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:23 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > the nissens we had was from denmark, i believe > > not china as someone said > > as in this website > > http://www.nissens.com/ > > > thanks, > > xx rick > Rick Hawkins > \ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
Forgot my guess - $380.00 On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:31 PM, OK Don wrote: > We inherited a bottle of crushed dried ghost peppers - just a little dust > is plenty hot (I order my Thai curry and Vindaloo 5 out of 5 hot). If you > can see it on the food, it will be REALLY HOT. > Habaneros are nice chopped up in stir fries, egg scrambles, etc. > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Worse than the infamous Ghost Peppers? >> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Craig via Mercedes > > >> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:57:38 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > > The Reapers should be declared a weapon of (potentially) mass >> > > destruction. My daughter's boyfriend, who likes pretty hot stuff, >> > > tried a bit of one and damn near died. He said it was the most >> painful >> > > thing he had ever experienced. >> > >> > Are they worse than Habaneros? >> > >> > >> > Craig >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > fence for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
We inherited a bottle of crushed dried ghost peppers - just a little dust is plenty hot (I order my Thai curry and Vindaloo 5 out of 5 hot). If you can see it on the food, it will be REALLY HOT. Habaneros are nice chopped up in stir fries, egg scrambles, etc. On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Worse than the infamous Ghost Peppers? > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:57:38 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > The Reapers should be declared a weapon of (potentially) mass > > > destruction. My daughter's boyfriend, who likes pretty hot stuff, > > > tried a bit of one and damn near died. He said it was the most painful > > > thing he had ever experienced. > > > > Are they worse than Habaneros? > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
Worse than the infamous Ghost Peppers? On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:57:38 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > > The Reapers should be declared a weapon of (potentially) mass > > destruction. My daughter's boyfriend, who likes pretty hot stuff, > > tried a bit of one and damn near died. He said it was the most painful > > thing he had ever experienced. > > Are they worse than Habaneros? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:57:38 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > The Reapers should be declared a weapon of (potentially) mass > destruction. My daughter's boyfriend, who likes pretty hot stuff, > tried a bit of one and damn near died. He said it was the most painful > thing he had ever experienced. Are they worse than Habaneros? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
Shisito. Quite mild, great grilled a bit after coating with a bit of olive oil and salt. I will do a batch on the grill on the hob for a beforzie. The Reapers should be declared a weapon of (potentially) mass destruction. My daughter's boyfriend, who likes pretty hot stuff, tried a bit of one and damn near died. He said it was the most painful thing he had ever experienced. --R On 3/9/16 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Never heard of that one. My brother raves about sushito peppers. On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:02 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: If you had mint jelly made of Carolina Reaper peppers, there would be more entries. Carolina Reaper has great eye watering flavor. You can buy the peppers from Puckerbutt Pepper Company in Rock Hill, SC Here is what the company says about Carolina Reaper: "The flavor of Carolina Reaper has been described as a roasted sweetness delivering an instant level of heat never before achieved, and continuing with an increasing tidal wave of scorching fire that grips you from head to toe. Eyes glaze. Brows perspire. Arms flail." CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION!CAUTION!CAUTION! Only two entries so far with the deadline fast approaching. To sweeten the pot I will include a packet of Pinetree Garden's Italian parsley seeds with the jelly/applesauce. Got the car back yesterday. Drives like a dream - worth every penny. I may keep it forever. Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
Never heard of that one. My brother raves about sushito peppers. On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:02 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > If you had mint jelly made of Carolina Reaper peppers, there would be more > entries. Carolina Reaper has great eye watering flavor. > You can buy the peppers from Puckerbutt Pepper Company in Rock Hill, SC > Here is what the company says about Carolina Reaper: > > "The flavor of Carolina Reaper has been described as a roasted sweetness > delivering an instant level of heat never before achieved, and continuing > with an increasing tidal wave of scorching fire that grips you from head to > toe. Eyes glaze. Brows perspire. Arms flail." > CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION!CAUTION!CAUTION! > > > Only two entries so far with the deadline fast approaching. > > To sweeten the pot I will include a packet of Pinetree Garden's Italian > > parsley seeds with the jelly/applesauce. > > Got the car back yesterday. Drives like a dream - worth every penny. I > > may keep it forever. > > > > Andrew > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
If you had mint jelly made of Carolina Reaper peppers, there would be more entries. Carolina Reaper has great eye watering flavor. You can buy the peppers from Puckerbutt Pepper Company in Rock Hill, SC Here is what the company says about Carolina Reaper: "The flavor of Carolina Reaper has been described as a roasted sweetness delivering an instant level of heat never before achieved, and continuing with an increasing tidal wave of scorching fire that grips you from head to toe. Eyes glaze. Brows perspire. Arms flail." CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION!CAUTION!CAUTION! > Only two entries so far with the deadline fast approaching. > To sweeten the pot I will include a packet of Pinetree Garden's Italian > parsley seeds with the jelly/applesauce. > Got the car back yesterday. Drives like a dream - worth every penny. I > may keep it forever. > > Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big contest
Only two entries so far with the deadline fast approaching. To sweeten the pot I will include a packet of Pinetree Garden's Italian parsley seeds with the jelly/applesauce. Got the car back yesterday. Drives like a dream - worth every penny. I may keep it forever. Andrew 1983 300TD - No more squealing 1985 300TD - Needs a new rad On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > If I did that there would be no contest. > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> You could have had them all changed out by tonight. Benz breaks are >> eezy. You need to buy some jack stands and some wrenches and just deal >> with this stuff. Call Jabba for all the parts then take oober (or, more >> appropriately, the bus) to work for a coupla days while the parts arrive. >> >> --R >> >> >> On 3/8/16 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> >>> I will send a prize to whoever guesses closest to the price I will be >>> paying to replace the entire rear brake system in my 1983 300TD. This is >>> for parts AND labor. >>> >>> I finally drove over to my indy to diagnose the horrible screeching >>> braking >>> noise on my white 1983 300TD wagon. A trip up his lift showed that BOTH >>> rear calipers had seized up with a few days of each other, resulting in >>> shot rotors and (of course) pads. The rear hoses were also in need of >>> replacement, since they were quite "original", and not in a good way. >>> >>> Because of the urgency of the work, I did not have the luxury of ordering >>> from a low priced internet catalog, e.g., Autohaus. I relied on local >>> parts chain stores for all the components (e.g., Napa, Advance and the >>> like). The tech charges his labor sort of by the job, but roughly >>> $85/hr. >>> >>> Rules: Contest ends at midnight on Wednesday 3/9/16. Minimum bid >>> separation is $10. Winner is whoever gets closest to the actual amount >>> for >>> parts + labor (above or below). You may break down the various >>> components >>> of your final estimate to illustrate how your final guess was derived. >>> >>> To summarize: >>> >>> Parts - rear brake pads, 2 rear hoses, 2 rear rotors, L and R rebuilt >>> caliper >>> Labor - cost to install these parts >>> >>> Prize winner will receive choice of home made jalapeno or habanero pepper >>> jelly, applesauce, or cranberry applesauce. Apples locally grown in my >>> new >>> front yard. >>> >>> Andrew, spreading largesse. >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Mentally challenged of the week
The only downside is that it's a "build your own" model. On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The world needs more optimists > > --R > > On 3/8/16 10:56 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5458918317.html >> >> REALLY? $14k for a busted 240D is a bit rich. >> >> >> clay >> >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nissens
Radiator Warehouse carries a PDI radiator for $170. Looks tough! http://pdidiesel.com/radiators On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:23 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > the nissens we had was from denmark, i believe > > not china as someone said > > as in this website > > http://www.nissens.com/ > > > thanks, > > xx rick > Rick Hawkins > \ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions
Jim, Connector: I've checked all the female connectors to make sure they are clean and grip tightly and the wire is securely soldered to the backside. I think the next thing to try would be removing all the female connectors from the socket and attaching them to the relay to see if the behavior changes. Thanks for the tip on the KD signal, I'll have to try that. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > those connection solder joints, but there was no change in behavior. If >> light pressure is kept on the KLIMA relay by pushing a crushed plastic >> water bottle between the relay and the battery, it works just fine. >> > > Problem could be in the connector too, outside of the Klima. > Did you look that over well? > > have lost the transmission kick-down feature, probably need to figure out >> how to add another relay to restore that function. >> > > Just an appropriate jumper wire in the connector, IIRC. The KD > signal goes through the Klima so that the Klima can cut off the > compressor at WOT, while keeping the wiring harness point-to-point > simple. > > -- Jim > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Substance Abuser
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'Had to replace OVP on my 350SDL years ago; '87 300D KLIMA coupla years ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions Yes I have had them fail too, I am not sure how much they cost these days but might just replace it with a programa rebuilt one. On 3/8/2016 9:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Re. the compressor problem, 'been trying to remember name of relay that caused same problem on my '87 300D - a relay behind the battery. Somebody help me remember its name. Is it overvoltage relay? Again, behind battery on '87 300D. 'Had same prob with compressor that Dan is having with '90 350SDL. I replaced that relay behind battery to cure prob. Overvoltage relay on 350SDL is at rear of engine comp. inward from fuse box. Small rectangular unit w/clear, plastic top, I think. Wilton All my problems were the KLIMA relay. The Beloved Herr Doktor argued with me, and said the Klimas never failed (in his experience). My experience was that EVERY KLIMA fails. OVP relay can cause wonky problems too. I've never had an OVP relay failYET! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It was a bad KLIMA that caused problems with my 87 300D compressor coupla
years ago. Compressor would run for a while after starting car ('don't know
HOW long - 'never sat and watched it), but it would quit sometime during a
short "trip." Restart car, and compressor would work again for a while,
etc. 'Replacing KLIMA (behind battery) cured it.
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Type III ACC Questions
>Re. the compressor problem, 'been trying to remember name of relay that
>caused same problem on my '87 300D - a relay behind the battery.
>Somebody help me remember its name. Is it overvoltage relay? Again,
>behind battery on '87 300D.
'Had same prob with compressor that Dan is having with '90 350SDL. I
replaced that relay behind battery to cure prob.
Overvoltage relay on 350SDL is at rear of engine comp. inward from fuse
box. Small rectangular unit w/clear, plastic top, I think.
Wilton
All my problems were the KLIMA relay. The Beloved Herr Doktor argued with
me, and said the Klimas never failed (in his experience). My experience
was that EVERY KLIMA fails. OVP relay can cause wonky problems too. I've
never had an OVP relay failYET!
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those connection solder joints, but there was no change in behavior. If light pressure is kept on the KLIMA relay by pushing a crushed plastic water bottle between the relay and the battery, it works just fine. Problem could be in the connector too, outside of the Klima. Did you look that over well? have lost the transmission kick-down feature, probably need to figure out how to add another relay to restore that function. Just an appropriate jumper wire in the connector, IIRC. The KD signal goes through the Klima so that the Klima can cut off the compressor at WOT, while keeping the wiring harness point-to-point simple. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim, very impressive! - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolder and cap replacement is what's >> necessary to bring them back into working order? >> > > Of course: > > http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mb190dlog.html#4Aug2006 > > -- Jim > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have opened up the KLIMA for my '95 sedan. There is a little board with at least one or two logic chips, transistor or two and some capacitors / diodes / resistors etc. I was trying to fix an intermittent connection which causes the AC compressor to cut in and out. The main board attaches at a right angle to the connector board on the bottom; I re-flowed all those connection solder joints, but there was no change in behavior. If light pressure is kept on the KLIMA relay by pushing a crushed plastic water bottle between the relay and the battery, it works just fine. "This repair is only temporary, unless it works!". No idea of location on a 126 car, but that is the location on my 124 cars. On my wagon, the KLIMA prevented the AC compressor from coming on because the circuit comparing the engine speed to the compressor speed would always see a fault. I suspect the main engine computer relay was providing a bad engine speed signal. The KLIMA is removed and replaced with a simple relay that powers up the AC compressor clutch when called for. Unfortunately I have lost the transmission kick-down feature, probably need to figure out how to add another relay to restore that function. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I wonder what's in the KLIMA relay that's rebuildable? Can't be much to > them if Programa sells a rebuild for $65. > > Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolver and cap replacement is what's > necessary to bring them back into working order? > > Also, is the KLIMA in the cowl behind the false firewall? I've seen the > OVP there. > > Dan > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolder and cap replacement is what's necessary to bring them back into working order? Of course: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mb190dlog.html#4Aug2006 -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's right in from of the ovp behind the battery Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder what's in the KLIMA relay that's rebuildable? Can't be much to them > if Programa sells a rebuild for $65. > > Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolver and cap replacement is what's > necessary to bring them back into working order? > > Also, is the KLIMA in the cowl behind the false firewall? I've seen the OVP > there. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> All my problems were the KLIMA relay. The Beloved Herr Doktor argued with >> me, and said the Klimas never failed (in his experience). My experience was >> that EVERY KLIMA fails. OVP relay can cause wonky problems too. I've never >> had an OVP relay failYET! >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wonder what's in the KLIMA relay that's rebuildable? Can't be much to them if Programa sells a rebuild for $65. Anyone vet open one up? Maybe a resolver and cap replacement is what's necessary to bring them back into working order? Also, is the KLIMA in the cowl behind the false firewall? I've seen the OVP there. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: All my problems were the KLIMA relay. The Beloved Herr Doktor argued with me, and said the Klimas never failed (in his experience). My experience was that EVERY KLIMA fails. OVP relay can cause wonky problems too. I've never had an OVP relay failYET! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Klima Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > KLIMA or over voltage relay? > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 11:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yes I have had them fail too, I am not sure how much they cost these days >> but might just replace it with a programa rebuilt one. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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KLIMA or over voltage relay? Sent from my iPad > On Mar 8, 2016, at 11:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes I have had them fail too, I am not sure how much they cost these days but > might just replace it with a programa rebuilt one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
