Re: [MBZ] Why you no work, Door?

[clay via Mercedes]

I probably did.  I think I missed the poke a hole and ended up on the other 
side.

clay

> On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No.  What you describe is a latch issue, not door handle.  It sounds like 
> you’ve munged up the latch somehow?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 5:00 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, that helped.  But now the door will not stay closed unless the lock 
>> is engaged.  Is this going to require removing the door card or just adjust 
>> the pin on the B pillar?
>> 
>> clay
> 
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Re: [MBZ] SS Exhaust

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 22:16:52 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Has anyone here or reported on Benzworld or Peachy used these guys for 
> SS exhayst?
> 
> $400 for 123 Diesels (Pus freight, Etc)   That compares pretty
> favorably with brittle bosal.  I think they are around $350 from crock
> auto.
> 
> http://www.rakaror.o.se/StainlesssteelexhaustMercedes-Benz-pictures.htm
> 
> oops, forgot the link...

They sure make a lot of different exhaust systems!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] UPDATE on : #*&@ Car payment

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Did I fix the broken exhaust pipe?  No, MB tech welded it.  'Still okay 15 
years and 145 kmi later when damned fool driving ragged pickup with no ins. 
made left turn in front of SWMBO and totaled it.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "MG via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPDATE on : #*&@ Car payment



And You Fixed it?!!!

Sorry. There's just something about those big radials that speaks to me. I 
live under a N-S Air Corridor in Fl and around this time I get to hear 
some of those nice sounds overhead.


WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
'Reminds me:  Exhaust pipe on my '80 240D broke at manifold entry point 
to the muffler at 42 kmi.  (That's 42 kmi on the car bought new in Oct 
'79.)
I was cruising at about 65 mph when it separated - 'sounded like an 
R-4360.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes_Discussion_List" 
Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 10:33 PM
Subject: [MBZ] UPDATE on : #*&@ Car payment


Below is the post from when I installed the new exhaust system last fall 
on the 240D.  The car has only gone 300-400  miles and a good bit of 
that was after the new pipe broke in front of the resonator in March. 
It was all Bosal.  The broken resonator pipe says it was made in czech 
republic. The KEY phrase in the original post is that the new pipe is 
.5mm thinner wall than the original pipe.  Thus the breakage.  They 
saved what? 20¢? Something less than a dollar by cheaping out on the 
pipe!


If you need new exhaust parts, the Bosal of now is not the Bosal of old.

I put the second new resonator on today.  Looks like it is going to cost 
me $25 to send the broken one back.   This time I put a bandaid between 
the front of the resonator pipe and the back of the front pipe to absorb 
some of the vibration.  I hope that will help the new pipe last a few 
more than 300 miles.



*From:* Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
*Date:* August 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM
*To:* Mercedes_Discussion_List 
*Subject:* #*&@ Car payment
For more than 20 years I  have been putting bandaids on the exhaust 
pipe of the 240D from Dallas (81).   It has so many patches fore and 
aft that the section under the passenger compartment keeps twisting 
down between the bandaids.  I have been tying it up with wire, and the 
wire keeps breaking.  The front pipe is now rusted off up to the bend 
from down to back.  So, last week when the wire broke again, I sighed 
deep, and figured maybe it was time to make a car payment.


So I ordered  a new Bosal exhaust pipe and resonator section from crock 
auto.  It came in Tuesday, and I put it on yesterday.   The resonator 
and muffler were ok, but I had to saw off the good pipe between the 
muffler and resonator to put the new pipe and resonator in front of the 
muffler. The only problem was that the old and new pipes were the same 
size, and I had no wheels to go to flaps to borrow the swedge tool. 
But I had a 4" piece on the old pipe as one of the patches that went 
over both pipes. I salvaged it off the old pipe, it was crushed 
somewhat from the clamp, so I  had to beat on it to flatten the 
sidewall and expand it enough it would slide over both pipes.  In this 
process, I found out the MB pipe was maybe half a mm larger than the 
Bosal pipe.  I believe the old pipes from  behind the down pipe are 
original.  The Resonator has the MB star and number embossed.  I think 
the down pipe was replaced before we got it was replaced with a thin 
aftermarket pipe (that caused it to keep rusting away)


Now in my shed I have a good muffler off the other 240D, and the MB 
resonator off this car, if anyone needs either.


Crock auto does sell the complete kit.  On the other 240D, I put on the 
whole system, even though the muffler was ok.


Total car payment was about $160.  So this one was cheaper than the 
prior one when I put on rotors and calipers.





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[MBZ] SS Exhaust

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Has anyone here or reported on Benzworld or Peachy used these guys for 
SS exhayst?


$400 for 123 Diesels (Pus freight, Etc)   That compares pretty favorably 
with brittle bosal.  I think they are around $350 from crock auto.


http://www.rakaror.o.se/StainlesssteelexhaustMercedes-Benz-pictures.htm

oops, forgot the link...

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[MBZ] SS Exhaust

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Has anyone here or reported on Benzworld or Peachy used these guys for 
SS exhayst?


$400 for 123 Diesels (Pus freight, Etc)   That compares pretty favorably 
with brittle bosal.  I think they are around $350 from crock auto.


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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of cheap cars

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I've bought two cars with that transmission.
First was a 1999 e320 that was acting up on occasion, usually after it had time 
to get hot, seller's mechanic told him conductor plate. It was. 
Second was a 1997 S420 firmly locked in 2nd gear. Poos suggested it was the 
external connector after I scanned it with a generic OBDII. It was.

Mitch.

> On April 8, 2017 at 3:20 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> A couple days ago a guy came by the house and said he lived right behind my 
> property on the next section line. Anyway he says he has a 01 e320 that one 
> day clunked and would not upshift out of 1st. I went around the country block 
> and looked at it. Pretty dirty has been sitting a while but should clean up 
> pretty well. Ac seems to work, all electrical stuff works, has 195k miles, 
> starts right up and runs fine, trans goes into forward and reverse. I took an 
> $800 bet on it that it's the conductor plate. Clean carfax also. Being that 
> it's an 01 it's the facelift 210 that has a little bit nicer trim and some 
> additional options 
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Re: [MBZ] Cult car - 1995 BMW wagon on BAT

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Prices for most forms of antiques and collectibles have fallen since 
2008.  In some cases, drastically.  the folks who grew up with a 38 
packard, or whose first car was a 38 packard, etc, and have attachment, 
are not in the market.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
April 7, 2017 at 12:05 PM
Bummer. I’m surprised it brought that much in bidding, as it was sort 
of a “meh” kind of classic car. I’m not criticizing, and I think it 
was pretty cool, but I don’t think there’s a lot of value there. $10k 
would have been a pretty good price, I would think.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] more Denso compressor resealing

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Then buy a new compressor and get on with life.

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am planning on keeping it.
>
>
>


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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] more Denso compressor resealing

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I am planning on keeping it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2017, at 8:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Is this a car that you plan to keep, or flip as soon as the A/C works? - -
> - -
> 
> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So I still have not proceeded with this SDL ac project.  As mentioned
>> before it had a four seasons rebuilt compressor on it of unknown age.
>> Front seal is leaking pretty good it seems.  I decided I would go ahead and
>> reseal a compressor and install it, but as it turns out all of the ones I
>> had on the shelf appear to have issues, so my only choice would be to
>> reseal the 4 seasons. I ordered the kit that poos says he uses and today I
>> finished pulling off the clutch and coil.  As it turns out this is the
>> older style 10p compressor that has the seal removable from the front so it
>> uses a completely different seal.  You do not have to take the compressor
>> apart to replace it.  The problem is you apparently need a special
>> extractor and installer, otherwise you do have to take the compressor apart
>> and remove it from the back side. I will keep the 10PA set for a later
>> style compressor.  So, since I will have to order parts again for it, I am
>> really not sure a 4 seasons is worth resealing since the system is apart
>> anyway.  I did end up finding another 10p compressor on the shelf that will
>> bolt right in but it appears to be a no name rebuilt, but appears to work
>> at least from what I can tell.  It sucks my finger when turned.  Not sure
>> if I want to go thru the hassle of installing it, and if it doesnt work
>> have to take the system apart again and replace another drier.  My other
>> option is to order a new one. All of the places now all seem to be selling
>> Denso rebuilts, have not seen any new ones.  Cheapest I have seen by far is
>> Rock Auto for $198.  I think if I was going to reseal a compressor it would
>> be an original MB or Denso new/rebuilt unit and was in known working order
>> on a car I was driving but it just developed a leak, then I would do the
>> reseal.  I just do not think it's worth resealing a 4 seasons, and not sure
>> if its worth trying that other compressor I found.  What do you guys think?
>> 
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> for themselves."
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> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[OK Don via Mercedes]

My 1981 240D had the fan firmly bolted on, no clutch.

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I thought 240D cooling fans were always locked up...
>
> Curt
>



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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] more Denso compressor resealing

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Is this a car that you plan to keep, or flip as soon as the A/C works? - -
- -

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I still have not proceeded with this SDL ac project.  As mentioned
> before it had a four seasons rebuilt compressor on it of unknown age.
> Front seal is leaking pretty good it seems.  I decided I would go ahead and
> reseal a compressor and install it, but as it turns out all of the ones I
> had on the shelf appear to have issues, so my only choice would be to
> reseal the 4 seasons. I ordered the kit that poos says he uses and today I
> finished pulling off the clutch and coil.  As it turns out this is the
> older style 10p compressor that has the seal removable from the front so it
> uses a completely different seal.  You do not have to take the compressor
> apart to replace it.  The problem is you apparently need a special
> extractor and installer, otherwise you do have to take the compressor apart
> and remove it from the back side. I will keep the 10PA set for a later
> style compressor.  So, since I will have to order parts again for it, I am
> really not sure a 4 seasons is worth resealing since the system is apart
> anyway.  I did end up finding another 10p compressor on the shelf that will
> bolt right in but it appears to be a no name rebuilt, but appears to work
> at least from what I can tell.  It sucks my finger when turned.  Not sure
> if I want to go thru the hassle of installing it, and if it doesnt work
> have to take the system apart again and replace another drier.  My other
> option is to order a new one. All of the places now all seem to be selling
> Denso rebuilts, have not seen any new ones.  Cheapest I have seen by far is
> Rock Auto for $198.  I think if I was going to reseal a compressor it would
> be an original MB or Denso new/rebuilt unit and was in known working order
> on a car I was driving but it just developed a leak, then I would do the
> reseal.  I just do not think it's worth resealing a 4 seasons, and not sure
> if its worth trying that other compressor I found.  What do you guys think?
>
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: ex Tulsa reserve deputy shoots ex Tulsa deputy sergeant at gun show

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote:
> At least they did not shoot another unarmed black man on the ground handcuffed

unarmed is discrimination
handcuffed is discrimination
black is discrimination
In appropriate distinctions for okiebenz, MrOkiebenz ;-)
My gender of choice is biology.
tin.man

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[MBZ] OT: quad rotor drones

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

With camera $34 each or $30 each if you buy 4 at a time

https://www.evertek.com/viewpart.asp?auto=113094_source=Promotions_medium=Email_campaign=QuadDrones

(Usual disclaimers)  But I have an account there.  You won't see the 
prices without creating an account.



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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I thought 240D cooling fans were always locked up...

Curt

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  On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Max Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   Maybe the cooling fan clutch locks up?
-- 
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 8, 2017 4:46:08 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good
>morning too.
>'83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins after
>driving at highway speed for a number of miles. 

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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

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~~~
MG wrote:
> Grabbing at straws here. Try running the engine in place and see 
> if the roaring starts as the engine gets hot. Thinking of an 
> exhaust leak from a crack that opens as the manifold or exhaust 
> system heats up. Had one like that on a Jeep one time.

G: I wondered about a crack near the manifold after reading Wiltons email.
I checked the exhaust system for leaks by having my daughter watch and listen 
for leaking exhaust while I blocked the tailpipe with the car idling, but the 
engine was stone cold. I'll have to do it away from the house since my neighbor 
would have a hissy fit if I ran the engine at 4000 rpm for five or ten minutes. 
He's a nice guy, but something of a perfectionist.

I'll report back after trying these fixes.
Gerry
> 
> MG via Mercedes wrote:
> > OK. My other thought is a possible wheel bearing grumbling only when it 
> > gets hot? You might be able to feel a roughness while turning by hand.
> > 
> > archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I just checked, and I can find no evidence of a clutch on that fan. 
> >> It's not like the clutch on the 300D. I've never been able to move the 
> >> blades whether the engine was hot or cold. A German prof at UF picked 
> >> it up in Germany. I wonder if he could have specified a fan without a 
> >> clutch? IIRC the blades on the 300Ds clutch are rigid, solid; but the 
> >> blades on this 240D are flexible and silver in color.
> >> I was lucky to find the hole in the vacuum line. Just happened to run 
> >> my finger underneath the line. It felt rough so I pulled off one end 
> >> and found the very small hole. Gerry
> >> ~~~
> >> MG wrote:
> >>> The next time that roaring happens pull over and check the fan 
> >>> clutch. Possibly something causing that to lock up.
> >>>
> >>> Good catch on that little hole. Those are hard to find.
> >>>
> >>> archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>  This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good 
>  morning too.
>  '83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins 
>  after driving at highway speed for a number of miles. Jacked up the 
>  car, checked the rubber bits in the driveline, the exhaust system, 
>  and other likely suspects; but found nothing wrong.
> 
>  Tackled the vacuum leak in the '83 300D. Isolated each circuit and 
>  tested it with hand vacuum pump. Finally found that a short rubber 
>  tube connecting the switch assembly to the shutdown diaphram on back 
>  of the pump had rubbed through in one spot. Replace the short piece 
>  of tubing and all was back to normal.
> 
>  Tightened the steering gear about one eighth of a turn which 
>  produced about 2" of play in the steering wheel. Test drove it and 
>  it didn't seem too tight. Hope it's not.
> 
>  Car which name shall not be spoken is due for OC, filter, and tire 
>  rotation; which is next job. This is great weather for working on 
>  cars today.
>  Gerry
>  ~~
>  Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
> > Waytago!
> >
> >> MG via Mercedes 
> >> April 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM
> >> I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, 
> >> rebuilt it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil in 
> >> the tank had been going down and the motor wasn't using as much 
> >> oil as normal. My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. Yep 
> >> thats what it was. I had the parts that I picked up from the MB 
> >> parts man on Fri so it was a quick and easy job. Everything works 
> >> as it should and there should be no leaking into the engine any 
> >> more. I'm happy.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Ineresting! one or more of the wheels were tight and pulled car to the left 
when I first drove it after it had sat a long time. They don't seem to be tight 
now and there is no more pulling to the left, but might as well check and 
repack the front wheel bearings since its been a while.
Gerry

MG wrote:
> OK. My other thought is a possible wheel bearing grumbling only 
> when it gets hot? You might be able to feel a roughness while 
> turning by hand.
> 
> archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > I just checked, and I can find no evidence of a clutch on that fan. It's 
> > not like the clutch on the 300D. I've never been able to move the blades 
> > whether the engine was hot or cold. A German prof at UF picked it up in 
> > Germany. I wonder if he could have specified a fan without a clutch? IIRC 
> > the blades on the 300Ds clutch are rigid, solid; but the blades on this 
> > 240D are flexible and silver in color.
> > I was lucky to find the hole in the vacuum line. Just happened to run my 
> > finger underneath the line. It felt rough so I pulled off one end and found 
> > the very small hole. 
> > Gerry
> > ~~~
> > MG wrote:
> >> The next time that roaring happens pull over and check the fan 
> >> clutch. Possibly something causing that to lock up.
> >>
> >> Good catch on that little hole. Those are hard to find.
> >>
> >> archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good 
> >>> morning too.
> >>> '83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins after 
> >>> driving at highway speed for a number of miles. Jacked up the car, 
> >>> checked the rubber bits in the driveline, the exhaust system, and other 
> >>> likely suspects; but found nothing wrong.
> >>>
> >>> Tackled the vacuum leak in the '83 300D. Isolated each circuit and tested 
> >>> it with hand vacuum pump. Finally found that a short rubber tube 
> >>> connecting the switch assembly to the shutdown diaphram on back of the 
> >>> pump had rubbed through in one spot. Replace the short piece of tubing 
> >>> and all was back to normal.
> >>>
> >>> Tightened the steering gear about one eighth of a turn which produced 
> >>> about 2" of play in the steering wheel. Test drove it and it didn't seem 
> >>> too tight. Hope it's not.
> >>>
> >>> Car which name shall not be spoken is due for OC, filter, and tire 
> >>> rotation; which is next job. This is great weather for working on cars 
> >>> today.
> >>> Gerry
> >>> ~~
> >>> Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
>  Waytago!
> 
> > MG via Mercedes 
> > April 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM
> > I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, rebuilt 
> > it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil in the tank 
> > had been going down and the motor wasn't using as much oil as normal. 
> > My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. Yep thats what it was. I 
> > had the parts that I picked up from the MB parts man on Fri so it was 
> > a quick and easy job. Everything works as it should and there should 
> > be no leaking into the engine any more. I'm happy.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[MG via Mercedes]

Grabbing at straws here. Try running the engine in place and see 
if the roaring starts as the engine gets hot. Thinking of an 
exhaust leak from a crack that opens as the manifold or exhaust 
system heats up. Had one like that on a Jeep one time.


MG via Mercedes wrote:
OK. My other thought is a possible wheel bearing grumbling only when it 
gets hot? You might be able to feel a roughness while turning by hand.


archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
I just checked, and I can find no evidence of a clutch on that fan. 
It's not like the clutch on the 300D. I've never been able to move the 
blades whether the engine was hot or cold. A German prof at UF picked 
it up in Germany. I wonder if he could have specified a fan without a 
clutch? IIRC the blades on the 300Ds clutch are rigid, solid; but the 
blades on this 240D are flexible and silver in color.
I was lucky to find the hole in the vacuum line. Just happened to run 
my finger underneath the line. It felt rough so I pulled off one end 
and found the very small hole. Gerry

~~~
MG wrote:
The next time that roaring happens pull over and check the fan 
clutch. Possibly something causing that to lock up.


Good catch on that little hole. Those are hard to find.

archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good 
morning too.
'83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins 
after driving at highway speed for a number of miles. Jacked up the 
car, checked the rubber bits in the driveline, the exhaust system, 
and other likely suspects; but found nothing wrong.


Tackled the vacuum leak in the '83 300D. Isolated each circuit and 
tested it with hand vacuum pump. Finally found that a short rubber 
tube connecting the switch assembly to the shutdown diaphram on back 
of the pump had rubbed through in one spot. Replace the short piece 
of tubing and all was back to normal.


Tightened the steering gear about one eighth of a turn which 
produced about 2" of play in the steering wheel. Test drove it and 
it didn't seem too tight. Hope it's not.


Car which name shall not be spoken is due for OC, filter, and tire 
rotation; which is next job. This is great weather for working on 
cars today.

Gerry
~~
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

Waytago!


MG via Mercedes 
April 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM
I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, 
rebuilt it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil in 
the tank had been going down and the motor wasn't using as much 
oil as normal. My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. Yep 
thats what it was. I had the parts that I picked up from the MB 
parts man on Fri so it was a quick and easy job. Everything works 
as it should and there should be no leaking into the engine any 
more. I'm happy.


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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[MG via Mercedes]

OK. My other thought is a possible wheel bearing grumbling only 
when it gets hot? You might be able to feel a roughness while 
turning by hand.


archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

I just checked, and I can find no evidence of a clutch on that fan. It's not 
like the clutch on the 300D. I've never been able to move the blades whether 
the engine was hot or cold. A German prof at UF picked it up in Germany. I 
wonder if he could have specified a fan without a clutch? IIRC the blades on 
the 300Ds clutch are rigid, solid; but the blades on this 240D are flexible and 
silver in color.
I was lucky to find the hole in the vacuum line. Just happened to run my finger underneath the line. It felt rough so I pulled off one end and found the very small hole. 
Gerry

~~~
MG wrote:
The next time that roaring happens pull over and check the fan 
clutch. Possibly something causing that to lock up.


Good catch on that little hole. Those are hard to find.

archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good morning too.
'83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins after driving 
at highway speed for a number of miles. Jacked up the car, checked the rubber bits in the 
driveline, the exhaust system, and other likely suspects; but found nothing wrong.

Tackled the vacuum leak in the '83 300D. Isolated each circuit and tested it 
with hand vacuum pump. Finally found that a short rubber tube connecting the 
switch assembly to the shutdown diaphram on back of the pump had rubbed through 
in one spot. Replace the short piece of tubing and all was back to normal.

Tightened the steering gear about one eighth of a turn which produced about 2" 
of play in the steering wheel. Test drove it and it didn't seem too tight. Hope it's 
not.

Car which name shall not be spoken is due for OC, filter, and tire rotation; 
which is next job. This is great weather for working on cars today.
Gerry
~~
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

Waytago!


MG via Mercedes 
April 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM
I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, rebuilt 
it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil in the tank 
had been going down and the motor wasn't using as much oil as normal. 
My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. Yep thats what it was. I 
had the parts that I picked up from the MB parts man on Fri so it was 
a quick and easy job. Everything works as it should and there should 
be no leaking into the engine any more. I'm happy.


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[MBZ] more Denso compressor resealing

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I still have not proceeded with this SDL ac project.  As mentioned 
before it had a four seasons rebuilt compressor on it of unknown age.  
Front seal is leaking pretty good it seems.  I decided I would go ahead 
and reseal a compressor and install it, but as it turns out all of the 
ones I had on the shelf appear to have issues, so my only choice would 
be to reseal the 4 seasons. I ordered the kit that poos says he uses and 
today I finished pulling off the clutch and coil.  As it turns out this 
is the older style 10p compressor that has the seal removable from the 
front so it uses a completely different seal.  You do not have to take 
the compressor apart to replace it.  The problem is you apparently need 
a special extractor and installer, otherwise you do have to take the 
compressor apart and remove it from the back side. I will keep the 10PA 
set for a later style compressor.  So, since I will have to order parts 
again for it, I am really not sure a 4 seasons is worth resealing since 
the system is apart anyway.  I did end up finding another 10p compressor 
on the shelf that will bolt right in but it appears to be a no name 
rebuilt, but appears to work at least from what I can tell.  It sucks my 
finger when turned.  Not sure if I want to go thru the hassle of 
installing it, and if it doesnt work have to take the system apart again 
and replace another drier.  My other option is to order a new one. All 
of the places now all seem to be selling Denso rebuilts, have not seen 
any new ones.  Cheapest I have seen by far is Rock Auto for $198.  I 
think if I was going to reseal a compressor it would be an original MB 
or Denso new/rebuilt unit and was in known working order on a car I was 
driving but it just developed a leak, then I would do the reseal.  I 
just do not think it's worth resealing a 4 seasons, and not sure if its 
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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I just checked, and I can find no evidence of a clutch on that fan. It's not 
like the clutch on the 300D. I've never been able to move the blades whether 
the engine was hot or cold. A German prof at UF picked it up in Germany. I 
wonder if he could have specified a fan without a clutch? IIRC the blades on 
the 300Ds clutch are rigid, solid; but the blades on this 240D are flexible and 
silver in color.
I was lucky to find the hole in the vacuum line. Just happened to run my finger 
underneath the line. It felt rough so I pulled off one end and found the very 
small hole. 
Gerry
~~~
MG wrote:
> The next time that roaring happens pull over and check the fan 
> clutch. Possibly something causing that to lock up.
> 
> Good catch on that little hole. Those are hard to find.
> 
> archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good morning 
> > too.
> > '83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins after 
> > driving at highway speed for a number of miles. Jacked up the car, checked 
> > the rubber bits in the driveline, the exhaust system, and other likely 
> > suspects; but found nothing wrong.
> > 
> > Tackled the vacuum leak in the '83 300D. Isolated each circuit and tested 
> > it with hand vacuum pump. Finally found that a short rubber tube connecting 
> > the switch assembly to the shutdown diaphram on back of the pump had rubbed 
> > through in one spot. Replace the short piece of tubing and all was back to 
> > normal.
> > 
> > Tightened the steering gear about one eighth of a turn which produced about 
> > 2" of play in the steering wheel. Test drove it and it didn't seem too 
> > tight. Hope it's not.
> > 
> > Car which name shall not be spoken is due for OC, filter, and tire 
> > rotation; which is next job. This is great weather for working on cars 
> > today.
> > Gerry
> > ~~
> > Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
> >> Waytago!
> >>
> >>> MG via Mercedes 
> >>> April 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM
> >>> I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, rebuilt 
> >>> it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil in the tank 
> >>> had been going down and the motor wasn't using as much oil as normal. 
> >>> My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. Yep thats what it was. I 
> >>> had the parts that I picked up from the MB parts man on Fri so it was 
> >>> a quick and easy job. Everything works as it should and there should 
> >>> be no leaking into the engine any more. I'm happy.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 01 Mercedes s500 $950

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Biggest problem is "No title".

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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I'll check that. Thanks.
Gerry

> Maybe the cooling fan clutch locks up?
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
> 
> On April 8, 2017 4:46:08 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
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> >This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good
> >morning too.
> >'83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins after
> >driving at highway speed for a number of miles. 
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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[MG via Mercedes]

The next time that roaring happens pull over and check the fan 
clutch. Possibly something causing that to lock up.


Good catch on that little hole. Those are hard to find.

archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good morning too.
'83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins after driving 
at highway speed for a number of miles. Jacked up the car, checked the rubber bits in the 
driveline, the exhaust system, and other likely suspects; but found nothing wrong.

Tackled the vacuum leak in the '83 300D. Isolated each circuit and tested it 
with hand vacuum pump. Finally found that a short rubber tube connecting the 
switch assembly to the shutdown diaphram on back of the pump had rubbed through 
in one spot. Replace the short piece of tubing and all was back to normal.

Tightened the steering gear about one eighth of a turn which produced about 2" 
of play in the steering wheel. Test drove it and it didn't seem too tight. Hope it's 
not.

Car which name shall not be spoken is due for OC, filter, and tire rotation; 
which is next job. This is great weather for working on cars today.
Gerry
~~
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

Waytago!


MG via Mercedes 
April 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM
I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, rebuilt 
it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil in the tank 
had been going down and the motor wasn't using as much oil as normal. 
My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. Yep thats what it was. I 
had the parts that I picked up from the MB parts man on Fri so it was 
a quick and easy job. Everything works as it should and there should 
be no leaking into the engine any more. I'm happy.


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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe the cooling fan clutch locks up?
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On April 8, 2017 4:46:08 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good
>morning too.
>'83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins after
>driving at highway speed for a number of miles. 

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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

This must have been a good morning for fixing diesels. I had a good morning too.
'83 240D has been making a loud "roaring" noise that only begins after driving 
at highway speed for a number of miles. Jacked up the car, checked the rubber 
bits in the driveline, the exhaust system, and other likely suspects; but found 
nothing wrong.

Tackled the vacuum leak in the '83 300D. Isolated each circuit and tested it 
with hand vacuum pump. Finally found that a short rubber tube connecting the 
switch assembly to the shutdown diaphram on back of the pump had rubbed through 
in one spot. Replace the short piece of tubing and all was back to normal.

Tightened the steering gear about one eighth of a turn which produced about 2" 
of play in the steering wheel. Test drove it and it didn't seem too tight. Hope 
it's not.

Car which name shall not be spoken is due for OC, filter, and tire rotation; 
which is next job. This is great weather for working on cars today.
Gerry
~~
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
> Waytago!
> 
> > MG via Mercedes 
> > April 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM
> > I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, rebuilt 
> > it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil in the tank 
> > had been going down and the motor wasn't using as much oil as normal. 
> > My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. Yep thats what it was. I 
> > had the parts that I picked up from the MB parts man on Fri so it was 
> > a quick and easy job. Everything works as it should and there should 
> > be no leaking into the engine any more. I'm happy.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 01 Mercedes s500 $950

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I just a few minutes ago saw one just like that, in really nice shape, 
that had been rear-ended by 2 pickups (first p/u that hit the S then got 
smacked in the rear by the 2nd p/u).  S was mashed pretty good in the 
trunk area, probably totaled which was kind of a shame as the car was 
otherwise in very nice appearance.  I almost stopped to give the owner 
my info to see what the insco would sell the hulk for, not that I needed 
a 220 hulk, but still...


--FT


On 4/8/17 3:08 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

It is a w220.  They are rolling problems that demand deep wallets and have 
cascade failures.  My S430 has Alzheimer's.  The computers are forgetting what 
they are supposed to do and subsystems are crapping out.

This parts car on CL is going to have busted upper control arm, water leakage 
in the trunk, a failed instrument cluster, dead airmatic, Command system 
failures, self destructing plastic parts, tail lights that have corroded 
circuits, dead catastrophic converters, transmission wicking ATF into the 
computers.

At least that is the list of things that farted out on my W220 in the past four 
years.

clay




On Apr 8, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

Wonder what kind of work it needs.

01 Mercedes s500
http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/6054926384.html

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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: ex Tulsa reserve deputy shoots ex Tulsa deputy sergeant at gun show

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On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> At least they did not shoot another unarmed black man on the ground
> handcuffed
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > If that idiot shot me, I'd be more than happy to press charges.
> >
> > https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/video-surveillance-
> footage-of-shooting-at-wanenmachers-tulsa-arms-show/
> >
> > http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2017/04/06/watch-oklahoma-
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel Automatic $2500

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On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:24:45 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Probably gramps replaced the turbo. 

That thought occurred to me after I hit "Send" ...


> Still it is a turd   I'd give im  $500 fer it.

That sounds about right, particularly with the gauges not working.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel Automatic $2500

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Probably gramps replaced the turbo.   Still it is a turd   I'd give im 
$500 fer it.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
April 8, 2017 at 2:20 PM
I didn't even notice that line.

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On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 11:29:38 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes


"My grandfather added a turbo to it."

Huh?


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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel Automatic $2500

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I didn't even notice that line. 

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> On Apr 8, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 11:29:38 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Would not be too bad except it is best all to hell, so it's way
>> overpriced 
>> 
>> 1991 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel Automatic
>> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6079548868.html
> 
> 
> "My grandfather added a turbo to it."
> 
> Huh?
> 
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[MBZ] Speaking of cheap cars

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

A couple days ago a guy came by the house and said he lived right behind my 
property on the next section line. Anyway he says he has a 01 e320 that one day 
clunked and would not upshift out of 1st. I went around the country block and 
looked at it. Pretty dirty has been sitting a while but should clean up pretty 
well. Ac seems to work, all electrical stuff works, has 195k miles, starts 
right up and runs fine, trans goes into forward and reverse. I took an $800 bet 
on it that it's the conductor plate. Clean carfax also. Being that it's an 01 
it's the facelift 210 that has a little bit nicer trim and some additional 
options 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac Pro

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thunderbolt is the protocol of choice, way faster than USB. Everything else is 
as you bought it.
Mine had 32GB of RAM and a 500GB ssd...

Curt

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  On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   the trash cans pretty much only take 
usb peripherals.  That is the big 
reason I don't think much of them.  Of course, if someone gave me one,  
I'd use it.

> clay via Mercedes 
> April 8, 2017 at 12:00 AM
> I much prefer a larger case than some oversize beer can. I am not sure 
> the beer cans upgrade as well as the pro bodies. Stacks of ram, 
> buckets of drives, built in optical drives and swappable components.
>
> clay
>
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Re: [MBZ] 01 Mercedes s500 $950

[clay via Mercedes]

It is a w220.  They are rolling problems that demand deep wallets and have 
cascade failures.  My S430 has Alzheimer's.  The computers are forgetting what 
they are supposed to do and subsystems are crapping out.  

This parts car on CL is going to have busted upper control arm, water leakage 
in the trunk, a failed instrument cluster, dead airmatic, Command system 
failures, self destructing plastic parts, tail lights that have corroded 
circuits, dead catastrophic converters, transmission wicking ATF into the 
computers. 

At least that is the list of things that farted out on my W220 in the past four 
years.

clay



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> 
> Wonder what kind of work it needs.
> 
> 01 Mercedes s500
> http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/6054926384.html
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Re: [MBZ] Fun Morning

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago!


MG via Mercedes 
April 8, 2017 at 2:05 PM
I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, rebuilt 
it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil in the tank 
had been going down and the motor wasn't using as much oil as normal. 
My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. Yep thats what it was. I 
had the parts that I picked up from the MB parts man on Fri so it was 
a quick and easy job. Everything works as it should and there should 
be no leaking into the engine any more. I'm happy.


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[MBZ] Big Radials Wuz: #*&@ Car payment

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I get to hear radials frequently, but in the last 20 years I can't 
remember hearing a 4 row radial like a R4360.  Probably was some there 
in 1988 when I went to Oshkosh.



MG via Mercedes 
April 8, 2017 at 2:16 PM
And You Fixed it?!!!

Sorry. There's just something about those big radials that speaks to 
me. I live under a N-S Air Corridor in Fl and around this time I get 
to hear some of those nice sounds overhead.




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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel Automatic $2500

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 11:29:38 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Would not be too bad except it is best all to hell, so it's way
> overpriced 
> 
> 1991 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel Automatic
> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6079548868.html


"My grandfather added a turbo to it."

Huh?


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Re: [MBZ] UPDATE on : #*&@ Car payment

[MG via Mercedes]

And You Fixed it?!!!

Sorry. There's just something about those big radials that speaks 
to me. I live under a N-S Air Corridor in Fl and around this time 
I get to hear some of those nice sounds overhead.


WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
'Reminds me:  Exhaust pipe on my '80 240D broke at manifold entry point 
to the muffler at 42 kmi.  (That's 42 kmi on the car bought new in Oct  
'79.)

I was cruising at about 65 mph when it separated - 'sounded like an R-4360.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes_Discussion_List" 
Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 10:33 PM
Subject: [MBZ] UPDATE on : #*&@ Car payment


Below is the post from when I installed the new exhaust system last 
fall on the 240D.  The car has only gone 300-400  miles and a good bit 
of that was after the new pipe broke in front of the resonator in 
March.  It was all Bosal.  The broken resonator pipe says it was made 
in czech republic. The KEY phrase in the original post is that the new 
pipe is .5mm thinner wall than the original pipe.  Thus the breakage.  
They saved what? 20¢? Something less than a dollar by cheaping out on 
the pipe!


If you need new exhaust parts, the Bosal of now is not the Bosal of old.

I put the second new resonator on today.  Looks like it is going to 
cost me $25 to send the broken one back.   This time I put a bandaid 
between the front of the resonator pipe and the back of the front pipe 
to absorb some of the vibration.  I hope that will help the new pipe 
last a few more than 300 miles.



*From:* Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
*Date:* August 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM
*To:* Mercedes_Discussion_List 
*Subject:* #*&@ Car payment
For more than 20 years I  have been putting bandaids on the exhaust 
pipe of the 240D from Dallas (81).   It has so many patches fore and 
aft that the section under the passenger compartment keeps twisting 
down between the bandaids.  I have been tying it up with wire, and 
the wire keeps breaking.  The front pipe is now rusted off up to the 
bend from down to back.  So, last week when the wire broke again, I 
sighed deep, and figured maybe it was time to make a car payment.


So I ordered  a new Bosal exhaust pipe and resonator section from 
crock auto.  It came in Tuesday, and I put it on yesterday.   The 
resonator and muffler were ok, but I had to saw off the good pipe 
between the muffler and resonator to put the new pipe and resonator 
in front of the muffler. The only problem was that the old and new 
pipes were the same size, and I had no wheels to go to flaps to 
borrow the swedge tool.  But I had a 4" piece on the old pipe as one 
of the patches that went over both pipes. I salvaged it off the old 
pipe, it was crushed somewhat from the clamp, so I  had to beat on it 
to flatten the sidewall and expand it enough it would slide over both 
pipes.  In this process, I found out the MB pipe was maybe half a mm 
larger than the Bosal pipe.  I believe the old pipes from  behind the 
down pipe are original.  The Resonator has the MB star and number 
embossed.  I think the down pipe was replaced before we got it was 
replaced with a thin aftermarket pipe (that caused it to keep rusting 
away)


Now in my shed I have a good muffler off the other 240D, and the MB 
resonator off this car, if anyone needs either.


Crock auto does sell the complete kit.  On the other 240D, I put on 
the whole system, even though the muffler was ok.


Total car payment was about $160.  So this one was cheaper than the 
prior one when I put on rotors and calipers.





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Re: [MBZ] UPDATE on : #*&@ Car payment

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Reminds me:  Exhaust pipe on my '80 240D broke at manifold entry point to 
the muffler at 42 kmi.  (That's 42 kmi on the car bought new in Oct  '79.)

I was cruising at about 65 mph when it separated - 'sounded like an R-4360.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes_Discussion_List" 
Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 10:33 PM
Subject: [MBZ] UPDATE on : #*&@ Car payment


Below is the post from when I installed the new exhaust system last fall 
on the 240D.  The car has only gone 300-400  miles and a good bit of that 
was after the new pipe broke in front of the resonator in March.  It was 
all Bosal.  The broken resonator pipe says it was made in czech republic. 
The KEY phrase in the original post is that the new pipe is .5mm thinner 
wall than the original pipe.  Thus the breakage.  They saved what? 20¢? 
Something less than a dollar by cheaping out on the pipe!


If you need new exhaust parts, the Bosal of now is not the Bosal of old.

I put the second new resonator on today.  Looks like it is going to cost 
me $25 to send the broken one back.   This time I put a bandaid between 
the front of the resonator pipe and the back of the front pipe to absorb 
some of the vibration.  I hope that will help the new pipe last a few more 
than 300 miles.



*From:* Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
*Date:* August 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM
*To:* Mercedes_Discussion_List 
*Subject:* #*&@ Car payment
For more than 20 years I  have been putting bandaids on the exhaust pipe 
of the 240D from Dallas (81).   It has so many patches fore and aft that 
the section under the passenger compartment keeps twisting down between 
the bandaids.  I have been tying it up with wire, and the wire keeps 
breaking.  The front pipe is now rusted off up to the bend from down to 
back.  So, last week when the wire broke again, I sighed deep, and 
figured maybe it was time to make a car payment.


So I ordered  a new Bosal exhaust pipe and resonator section from crock 
auto.  It came in Tuesday, and I put it on yesterday.   The resonator and 
muffler were ok, but I had to saw off the good pipe between the muffler 
and resonator to put the new pipe and resonator in front of the muffler. 
The only problem was that the old and new pipes were the same size, and I 
had no wheels to go to flaps to borrow the swedge tool.  But I had a 4" 
piece on the old pipe as one of the patches that went over both pipes. 
I salvaged it off the old pipe, it was crushed somewhat from the clamp, 
so I  had to beat on it to flatten the sidewall and expand it enough it 
would slide over both pipes.  In this process, I found out the MB pipe 
was maybe half a mm larger than the Bosal pipe.  I believe the old pipes 
from  behind the down pipe are original.  The Resonator has the MB star 
and number embossed.  I think the down pipe was replaced before we got it 
was replaced with a thin aftermarket pipe (that caused it to keep rusting 
away)


Now in my shed I have a good muffler off the other 240D, and the MB 
resonator off this car, if anyone needs either.


Crock auto does sell the complete kit.  On the other 240D, I put on the 
whole system, even though the muffler was ok.


Total car payment was about $160.  So this one was cheaper than the prior 
one when I put on rotors and calipers.





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Re: [MBZ] OT: ex Tulsa reserve deputy shoots ex Tulsa deputy sergeant at gun show

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

At least they did not shoot another unarmed black man on the ground handcuffed 

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> 
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> 
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[MBZ] OT: ex Tulsa reserve deputy shoots ex Tulsa deputy sergeant at gun show

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If that idiot shot me, I'd be more than happy to press charges. 

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/video-surveillance-footage-of-shooting-at-wanenmachers-tulsa-arms-show/

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2017/04/06/watch-oklahoma-security-guard-dressed-as-cop-shoots-man-claiming-it-was-an-accident/

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[MBZ] Fun Morning

[MG via Mercedes]

I had a good time this morning. I took the SLS pump off my TD, 
rebuilt it and put it back on. I had been noticing that the oil 
in the tank had been going down and the motor wasn't using as 
much oil as normal. My conclusion was the seal in the SLS pump. 
Yep thats what it was. I had the parts that I picked up from the 
MB parts man on Fri so it was a quick and easy job. Everything 
works as it should and there should be no leaking into the engine 
any more. I'm happy.


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Re: [MBZ] 01 Mercedes s500 $950

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The smoke came out.  It a $100 crusher for $950.  Goferit!


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
April 8, 2017 at 10:12 AM
Wonder what kind of work it needs.

01 Mercedes s500
http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/6054926384.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac Pro

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the trash cans pretty much only take usb peripherals.  That is the big 
reason I don't think much of them.  Of course, if someone gave me one,  
I'd use it.



clay via Mercedes 
April 8, 2017 at 12:00 AM
I much prefer a larger case than some oversize beer can. I am not sure 
the beer cans upgrade as well as the pro bodies. Stacks of ram, 
buckets of drives, built in optical drives and swappable components.


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[MBZ] 1991 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel Automatic $2500

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Would not be too bad except it is best all to hell, so it's way overpriced 

1991 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel Automatic
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6079548868.html

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Re: [MBZ] 01 Mercedes s500 $950

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"Runs but needs work".  Was bedeutet das?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wonder what kind of work it needs.
>
> 01 Mercedes s500
> http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/6054926384.html
>
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[MBZ] 01 Mercedes s500 $950

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Wonder what kind of work it needs.

01 Mercedes s500
http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/6054926384.html

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Re: [MBZ] Cult car - 1995 BMW wagon on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Most cars of that vintage were unreliable.  I'd be afraid of getting
stranded for critical parts.

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oh yeah, that's his baby.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On April 8, 2017 12:29:14 AM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >Cool! Does he still drive it?
> >Gerry
> >
> >> My dad owns the '48 Hudson that belonged to his grandmother, that he
> >learned to drive - without adult help our supervision - when he was
> >about 12.
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '87 300TD
> >> '95 E300
> >>
> >> On April 7, 2017 11:45:18 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes
> > wrote:
> >> >If I were buying a 1950s car and planned to drive it, I would buy a
> >> >1951-54  Hudson Hornet and drive it on long trips since it was the
> >> >smoothest riding and best handling car I've ever driven. Its repair
> >> >record was very good as well.
> >> >Show room quality models nowadays sell for around $30,000.
> >> >
> >> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Hornet
> >> >
> >> >~~~
> >> >> And who would buy the Packard with the expectation of using it as
> >a
> >> >daily driver?  Far cooler, much less expensive than the wagon in
> >many
> >> >ways.
> >> >>
> >> >> -D
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Apr 7, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yeah thats the thing I don't understand. That Packard is a waaay
> >> >cooler car. You park that and the BMW next to each other at a car
> >show
> >> >nobody is going to look at the BMW...
> >> >> > -Curt
> >> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Delo 400 Changes?

[MG via Mercedes]

If you read enough about it you will find that one of the things 
that will be done is to reduce the heavy metals in the oil. I 
read that as lower zinc and phosphorous which are wear reducers. 
That lower level is one of the reasons we should not use gas 
engine oils in our diesels, less wear protection. True they say 
other additives were put in to take the place of what was taken 
out and that those additives are better. Ford however says


 "Ford will not be recommending the use of CK-4 motor oils in 
any Ford diesel engines, new or old. Ford testing has shown some 
CK-4 type formulations have shown inadequate wear protection 
compared to CJ-4 formulations developed and licensed before 2016."


They have specified a new Ford specification  WSS-M2C171-F1 that 
if the oil meets that it will be OK. They also say that


"For a short period of time an oil showing CJ-4 in the API donut, 
Without showing CK-4, would be acceptable for service even if not 
showing WSS-M2C171-F1." and  "The customer should not use oils 
labeled CK-4/SN unless they have been approved by Ford Motor 
Company to meet WSS-M2C171-F1. This is possible with SAE 10W-40,
15W-40, 5W-40 and 0W-40 oils.  At this time SAE 10W-30 oils 
showing CK-4/SN cannot meet WSS-M2C171-F1 and should be avoided. 
So if unsure avoid CK-4 oils that also shows SN in the API donut. "


I think I will stick to that at least even if the oil does not 
also meet the older Mercedes standard for our cars, which I am 
beginning to think we will never see again.


Make of it what you will.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
I doubt you can rely upon the fact that the SKU did not change to 
indicate it is the same stuff.

It is the replacement stuff for whatever they were selling.
More research required to determine whether the change in labelling 
indicates a change in content or just some change to what they wish to 
tell us.


RB

On 07/04/2017 8:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Just noticed the latest 2.5 gallon jug I got a Wally World is labeled 
differently.  Looks like the ratings changed and now cover API CK-4 as 
opposed to CJ-4.


Not sure if that matters.  Same SKU so it must be the same stuff.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Cult car - 1995 BMW wagon on BAT

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Oh yeah, that's his baby.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 8, 2017 12:29:14 AM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>Cool! Does he still drive it?
>Gerry
>
>> My dad owns the '48 Hudson that belonged to his grandmother, that he
>learned to drive - without adult help our supervision - when he was
>about 12.
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On April 7, 2017 11:45:18 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> >If I were buying a 1950s car and planned to drive it, I would buy a
>> >1951-54  Hudson Hornet and drive it on long trips since it was the
>> >smoothest riding and best handling car I've ever driven. Its repair
>> >record was very good as well.
>> >Show room quality models nowadays sell for around $30,000.
>> >
>> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Hornet
>> >
>> >~~~
>> >> And who would buy the Packard with the expectation of using it as
>a
>> >daily driver?  Far cooler, much less expensive than the wagon in
>many
>> >ways.
>> >> 
>> >> -D
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> > On Apr 7, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>> > wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > Yeah thats the thing I don't understand. That Packard is a waaay
>> >cooler car. You park that and the BMW next to each other at a car
>show
>> >nobody is going to look at the BMW...
>> >> > -Curt
>> >> > 
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