date:20170524

I would ask for more pictures of the interior so you can judge how bad it
really is.

In the pictures of the back of the car, I can see the top of the rear seat
looks like it is falling apart.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The operative word is "was"
>
> Add $2500 for the interior
> Add $3500 for repainting
>
> and he should pay you to take it.
>
>> Craig via Mercedes 
>> May 24, 2017 at 9:27 PM
>> On Wed, 24 May 2017 20:26:13 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
>>
>> He also said for a car 40 years old (34, actually) the paint, which was
>> original, was in good condition.
>>
> And now is ruined, but shiny for a few days.
>
>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD in Kansas City


The operative word is "was"

Add $2500 for the interior
Add $3500 for repainting

and he should pay you to take it.

Craig via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 9:27 PM
On Wed, 24 May 2017 20:26:13 -0600 Craig via Mercedes

He also said for a car 40 years old (34, actually) the paint, which was
original, was in good condition.

And now is ruined, but shiny for a few days.



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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD in Kansas City

If the transmission came from Sun Valley, that does lead credence to the claim 
that he's an enthusiast. 

But, then again, Ray bought a 1980s diesel Benz from an enthusiast in Florida, 
and he's had all sorts of trouble trying to get home to Michigan in it...

Mitch.

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[MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD in Kansas City

On Wed, 24 May 2017 20:26:13 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6078399208.html
> 
> - He said that to make it perfect, one would want to redo the interior
>   (which would cost him $2400, which he didn't feel was worth it to him)
>   and maybe re-paint it. He did say he sanded through the clear coat in
>   some areas.

He also said for a car 40 years old (34, actually) the paint, which was
original, was in good condition.


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[MBZ] 1983 300SD in Kansas City

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6078399208.html

I posted this earlier, but called the owner just now.

He wasn't very talkative and I didn't know what all to ask him beyond,
"You have had it less than a year; why are you selling it now," and "What
would it take to make it perfect?", "What type of refrigerant does it
have?", and "Did you sand through the clear coat?"

The ad says,

Repairs since June 2016: $9,750
• A/C Compressor Repl.
• Steering Wheel Lock Repl.
• Vacuum Pump Repl.
• Headlights Repl.
• Potentiometer Repl.
• Transmission Repl. With Rebuilt Trans. (Sun Valley Transmissions
- Van Nuys, CA)
• Sway Bars Repl.
• Motor Mounts Repl.
• Fuel Filter Repl.
• Air Filters Repl.
• Cruise Control - Repair (Replace Amplifier)
• Tachometer Amplifier Repl.
• Dash Lights Repl.
• Complete wet sand, polish and detail of original paint/interior,

so that answers a lot of potential questions.

- He said he is a car enthusiast and that refurbishing cars was his hobby.

- He said that to make it perfect, one would want to redo the interior
  (which would cost him $2400, which he didn't feel was worth it to him)
  and maybe re-paint it. He did say he sanded through the clear coat in
  some areas.

- He said the car had been converted to R134.


Craig

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[MBZ] A polished turd


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Re: [MBZ] A heroine and cocaine fueled orgy

Presents well with the chromed bundts, and it's not a very common color for a 
wagon...
> On May 24, 2017 at 7:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Low miles '91 500SL on BAT

How about a blue 1998, which I think is the last year of the M119?
https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cto/6146585549.html
Mitch. 
> On May 24, 2017 at 4:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> The car actually presents well in the color scheme with the chrome wheels, 
> which I find hard to say, as I usually hate chrome wheels.
> 
> While it’s a nice example, I wouldn’t touch an R129 that’s older than 1996 
> for a lot of the same reasons I wouldn’t want an early W140 given the choice. 
>  A lot of weirdness with ignition and fuel system on these early models that 
> can be difficult to sort out.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On May 24, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Interesting auction.  I'm not going to guess where this will land. When
> > these first came out with their instant pop up roll bar they were the most
> > amazing technological advance since the slow cooker.
> > 
> > Could a no-design sports car possibly look any more boring than in
> > black/black?  I think not.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question


> On May 24, 2017 at 12:48 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am pursuing a job opportunity in Memphis and if I get it, I will be moving 
> to Memphis. 

If it's Bendini, Lambert and Locke, run away, no matter how much money they 
offer you. 

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[MBZ] A heroine and cocaine fueled orgy

2017-05-24 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

I gotta razz Kaleb on a regular basis.  It keeps him humble.

-D


> On May 24, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Take it outside please.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

Take it outside please.

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> I think I tripled my money on that deal. I had full intention of not
> selling that car but the guy wanted it real bad.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > I wouldn’t have answered the phone anyway.  I gave you too good of a
> deal on that car because i just wanted to get rid of it.
> >
> > And then you dumped it to some Arkie used car guy.  Sad, just another
> chapter of “Okieboy buys nice car and dumps it realizing later he should
> have kept it.”
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On May 24, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I forgot about an example. I bought the lwb off poos, flew down to
> Tampa, picked car up and stayed the night in st Pete. Next morning battery
> was dead. Alternator was dead. Did I call poos? No. I got to an autozone
> and bought a new one and installed it in the parking lot.
> >>
> >> Hmm maybe poos does sell piles of crap. Lord only know what that car
> would have brought on BAT.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] behr thermostat H thermostat

We are a community of big spenders NOT.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A hint about getting an extra 5% off your order at FCP - put stuff in your
> shopping cart and leave it there for a day or two.  They’ll send you a
> reminder first then the next day a “If you check out in the next 24 hours
> we’ll knock 5% off the total” message.
>
> They’re not super consistent about it, but if you’re not in a hurry it’s
> worth a shot.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 24, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > $5   Total was $20 delivered to my door.  Don't need any other parts
> right now.
> >
> >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> May 24, 2017 at 12:12 PM
> >> What was the shipping at fcp?
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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

I think I tripled my money on that deal. I had full intention of not selling 
that car but the guy wanted it real bad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t have answered the phone anyway.  I gave you too good of a deal on 
> that car because i just wanted to get rid of it.
> 
> And then you dumped it to some Arkie used car guy.  Sad, just another chapter 
> of “Okieboy buys nice car and dumps it realizing later he should have kept 
> it.”
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I forgot about an example. I bought the lwb off poos, flew down to Tampa, 
>> picked car up and stayed the night in st Pete. Next morning battery was 
>> dead. Alternator was dead. Did I call poos? No. I got to an autozone and 
>> bought a new one and installed it in the parking lot.
>> 
>> Hmm maybe poos does sell piles of crap. Lord only know what that car would 
>> have brought on BAT.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question

F150s are everywhere, shouldn't be hard to replace, though you will be
buying someone's neglected maintenance.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My brother lives there and has for 20+ years. He has been very helpful.
> But, I appreciate the offer.  His opinions are a little slanted because his
> ideas on housing prices are significantly higher than mine.
>
> I wish I could take all the vehicles to Memphis. But,  I will have to rent
> a house for a while until my house in Wichita sells and I'm not sure I'll
> have room for all the cars.  I can't store any at my brothers house because
> he has 4 cars of his own.
>
> > On May 24, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Floyd Thursby 
> wrote:
> >
> > Drive a 740 to Meffis, fly back and tow the other one with the truck.
> Yer all good.
> >
> > I have some good friends who live in/near Memphis if you need any advice
> on places to live, etc.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> >> On 5/24/17 12:48 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I am pursuing a job opportunity in Memphis and if I get it, I will be
> moving to Memphis.  I currently have three cars:  1. 1999 BMW 740iL with
> 102,000 miles  2.  2000 BMW 740iL with 231,000 miles and 3. 1992 Ford
> F150.   I really want to keep the truck, but I am not sure it will make
> sense to move it also.  So, the real question is what is my 2000 BMW 740iL
> really worth?   I still love driving it.  It has tons of options but lots
> of miles.   The rear bumper has good hole/crack in the bottom of it.  The
> interior is still in really good shape.  There is a small spot of rust on
> the rear passenger door about the size of a lemon.  It is surface rust.
>  Everything works.   Any thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

I wouldn’t have answered the phone anyway.  I gave you too good of a deal on 
that car because i just wanted to get rid of it.

And then you dumped it to some Arkie used car guy.  Sad, just another chapter 
of “Okieboy buys nice car and dumps it realizing later he should have kept it.”

-D


> On May 24, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I forgot about an example. I bought the lwb off poos, flew down to Tampa, 
> picked car up and stayed the night in st Pete. Next morning battery was dead. 
> Alternator was dead. Did I call poos? No. I got to an autozone and bought a 
> new one and installed it in the parking lot.
> 
> Hmm maybe poos does sell piles of crap. Lord only know what that car would 
> have brought on BAT.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

Can you send me some pictures of the finish?  The worst parts?  I ask because a 
lot of the process is determined by how bad the paint condition is…

No matter what, go out and get yourself a clay bar at FLAPS.  It will probably 
be bundled with a bottle of “clay bar lubricant” which is nothing more than 
filtered water with a few drops of dish soap in it to act as a surfactant. When 
you use it up just refill it with a bottle of water and a couple of drops of 
Joy or whatever dish soap you’ve got in the cabinet.

-D

> On May 24, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The paint on this new green E320 is a bit faded so I was thinking this 
> weekend to go at it with the Poos methods if he could relate the proper 
> procedures to revitalize the shine and get this Benz looking new again.
> 
> I seem to recall it involves clay bars and buffing using various products in 
> particular stages.
> 
> Tutorial please!
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Low miles '91 500SL on BAT

Yes, but  I really gravitate to cars that have a color other than
black/gray/beige.  I drive a white car but at least it has a lovely dark
blue interior and the air blows ICE COLD.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> The car actually presents well in the color scheme with the chrome wheels,
> which I find hard to say, as I usually hate chrome wheels.
>
> While it’s a nice example, I wouldn’t touch an R129 that’s older than 1996
> for a lot of the same reasons I wouldn’t want an early W140 given the
> choice.  A lot of weirdness with ignition and fuel system on these early
> models that can be difficult to sort out.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 24, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting auction.  I'm not going to guess where this will land. When
> > these first came out with their instant pop up roll bar they were the
> most
> > amazing technological advance since the slow cooker.
> >
> > Could a no-design sports car possibly look any more boring than in
> > black/black?  I think not.
> >
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A hint about getting an extra 5% off your order at FCP - put stuff in your 
shopping cart and leave it there for a day or two.  They’ll send you a reminder 
first then the next day a “If you check out in the next 24 hours we’ll knock 5% 
off the total” message.

They’re not super consistent about it, but if you’re not in a hurry it’s worth 
a shot.

-D

> On May 24, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> $5   Total was $20 delivered to my door.  Don't need any other parts right 
> now.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low miles '91 500SL on BAT

The car actually presents well in the color scheme with the chrome wheels, 
which I find hard to say, as I usually hate chrome wheels.

While it’s a nice example, I wouldn’t touch an R129 that’s older than 1996 for 
a lot of the same reasons I wouldn’t want an early W140 given the choice.  A 
lot of weirdness with ignition and fuel system on these early models that can 
be difficult to sort out.

-D

> On May 24, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting auction.  I'm not going to guess where this will land. When
> these first came out with their instant pop up roll bar they were the most
> amazing technological advance since the slow cooker.
> 
> Could a no-design sports car possibly look any more boring than in
> black/black?  I think not.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie

"Odo" has no unambiguous meaning.  Speedometer or odometer?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> First Odo I ever fixed was in the 62 190Dc.  not hard at all to fix.
>
> A Fin car is the most fun MB unless you are into track driving.
>
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> May 24, 2017 at 1:35 PM
>> I agree - very cool. But is it easily repairable?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load of this crack infested monster

Ok, well maybe in Concours condition.  But, a 250 is much less desirable than 
many other cars in equal condition.  Don’t get me wrong.  I loved my 250.  It 
was my first Mercedes.  It was bright red with the 2.8 engine and ivory 
interior. It was one of the few cars I have had that always attracted a crowd.  
I was always getting lots of questions about it and lots of folks who wanted to 
ask questions about it.

Don Snook

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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:06 PM
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ; Donald Snook 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load 
of this crack infested monster

You'd be surprised.  An unmolested one owner, documented 220 or 250 in concours 
condition would easily attract five figures.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> wrote:
Collector?  I loved my old 71 250. But, I knew it wasn't a collector car.  
Maybe the 250C could be a collector, but the regular 114 250 is a nice car, but 
its never going to demand collector prices.

Don Snook

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>
Subject: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load of 
this crack infested monster

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Mercedes-Benz-Other-/282490474929?hash=item41c5be91b1:g:oU0AAOSwK6RZIktS=mtr

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[MBZ] Speaking of paint and detailing

Have any of you tried Dr. ColorChip?

http://www.drcolorchip.com/

My brother tried it and the results were practically magic.  No exaggeration.

He tried it first on a 1983 Cadillac and Dr. Colorchip sent him the paint with 
the kit and it worked perfectly.  He fixed some chips on the front grill and 
then fixed a fairly large area of road rash (from gravel/rocks) on the lower 
rocker panel.  From 5 feet away, I couldn't see it at all.  The color was 
perfect. I had to get right up on it to see that it had been touched up and 
even then, it was very impressive. He takes his cars to car shows and has won 
numerous awards with his cars, so they have to look good.

He also has a 1971 Pontiac Grand Prix.  He wasn't sure of the paint code so he 
ended up removing an outside mirror and they were able to tell him the exact 
paint code (vermillion red) and sent him the mirror back with the paint kit and 
it worked perfectly too.  I may have to try it.  I am always skeptical of stuff 
like this, but I saw his in person and it worked!

Don Snook


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Re: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load of this crack infested monster

2017-05-24 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

+1

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> On May 24, 2017, at 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You'd be surprised.  An unmolested one owner, documented 220 or 250 in
> concours condition would easily attract five figures.
> 
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Collector?  I loved my old 71 250. But, I knew it wasn't a collector car.
>> Maybe the 250C could be a collector, but the regular 114 250 is a nice car,
>> but its never going to demand collector prices.
>> 
>> Don Snook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:18 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load
>> of this crack infested monster
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Mercedes-Benz-Other-/282490474929?hash=
>> item41c5be91b1:g:oU0AAOSwK6RZIktS=mtr
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie


First Odo I ever fixed was in the 62 190Dc.  not hard at all to fix.

A Fin car is the most fun MB unless you are into track driving.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 1:35 PM
I agree - very cool. But is it easily repairable?


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Re: [MBZ] What's With

Those ignorant b*st*rds!

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> they don't rust away in lost wages either.   When I went to junkyards
> there, they kept hauling in trailerloads of what looked like perfectly good
> cars.
>
> I think the rule of thumb for the yippies, dinks, etc, is if the repair
> cost more than 1 or 2 x the current car payment, it goes away.  They buy a
> new(er) car.
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> May 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM
>> Older cars in Southern states? I'm at the in-laws in central Florida for
>> a few days, and I don't see ANY older iron on the road.
>> Kind of puzzling to me. They don't rust away down here.
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Rick
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie

I agree - very cool.  But is it easily repairable?

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Nope - it doesn't have that cool barber pole vertical speedometer.
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Bumpers have been altered.  Ugly.  Fix those, and you have a pretty, red,
> > appreciating classic.  A lot better to drive than a phinny.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question

Gee thanks.  I could take a few parts of it and get that much.  

Don Snook 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question

$150

> Donald Snook via Mercedes  May 24, 2017 
> at 11:48 AM I am pursuing a job opportunity in Memphis and if I get 
> it, I will be moving to Memphis. I currently have three cars: 1. 1999 
> BMW 740iL with
> 102,000 miles 2. 2000 BMW 740iL with 231,000 miles and 3. 1992 Ford 
> F150. I really want to keep the truck, but I am not sure it will make 
> sense to move it also. So, the real question is what is my 2000 BMW 
> 740iL really worth? I still love driving it. It has tons of options 
> but lots of miles. The rear bumper has good hole/crack in the bottom 
> of it. The interior is still in really good shape. There is a small 
> spot of rust on the rear passenger door about the size of a lemon. It 
> is surface rust. Everything works. Any thoughts?
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT My 2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible will soon be bought back by VW

2017-05-24 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

I bought it on June 25, arrived home on the 26th, and the settlement was 
approved on the 28th. I think that the PO bought a vergasser convertible. After 
purchasing the new 2015, I discovered that the PO removed the wind deflector as 
the mounts were installed in the trunk which were not installed in the 2015. 
The 2015 top boot matches the beige interior, and the 2014 came to me with a 
black boot. My theory is that he used the wind deflector in his new car, and 
switched out the boot as well.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2017, at 9:24 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The latest on the VW buy-back and fixes:
> 
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/volkswagen-isnt-sure-what-to-do-with-the-diesel-cars-it-bought-back/ar-BBBt1ca?li=BBnb4R5=mailsignout
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> And he bought it 6 months after the scandal erupted, so it wasn't like
>> they were compensating an unwitting victim of the emissions fraud.
>> Then a month after Kevin bought it, VW announced the buyback. I bet the
>> seller was kicking himself about then.
>> Makes me wish I'd bought myself one for Christmas in 2015, when nobody was
>> buying used TDIs and prices were low.
>> Mitch.
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, you bought it used and were still able to get the buy back? I have
>> been wondering about whether the buyback only applied to new car purchasers.
>>> 
>>> Don Snook
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question

he obviously should move to Germantown.  I found a decent MB shop there 
years ago.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 12:26 PM
Drive a 740 to Meffis, fly back and tow the other one with the truck.  
Yer all good.


I have some good friends who live in/near Memphis if you need any 
advice on places to live, etc.


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Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question

My brother lives there and has for 20+ years. He has been very helpful. But, I 
appreciate the offer.  His opinions are a little slanted because his ideas on 
housing prices are significantly higher than mine. 

I wish I could take all the vehicles to Memphis. But,  I will have to rent a 
house for a while until my house in Wichita sells and I'm not sure I'll have 
room for all the cars.  I can't store any at my brothers house because he has 4 
cars of his own. 

> On May 24, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Floyd Thursby  
> wrote:
> 
> Drive a 740 to Meffis, fly back and tow the other one with the truck.  Yer 
> all good.
> 
> I have some good friends who live in/near Memphis if you need any advice on 
> places to live, etc.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 5/24/17 12:48 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> I am pursuing a job opportunity in Memphis and if I get it, I will be moving 
>> to Memphis.  I currently have three cars:  1. 1999 BMW 740iL with 102,000 
>> miles  2.  2000 BMW 740iL with 231,000 miles and 3. 1992 Ford F150.   I 
>> really want to keep the truck, but I am not sure it will make sense to move 
>> it also.  So, the real question is what is my 2000 BMW 740iL really worth?   
>> I still love driving it.  It has tons of options but lots of miles.   The 
>> rear bumper has good hole/crack in the bottom of it.  The interior is still 
>> in really good shape.  There is a small spot of rust on the rear passenger 
>> door about the size of a lemon.  It is surface rust.   Everything works.   
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Low miles '91 500SL on BAT


But, he is  Shill Master!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 12:25 PM
Denial is a moron.



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Re: [MBZ] behr thermostat H thermostat

$5   Total was $20 delivered to my door.  Don't need any other parts 
right now.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 12:12 PM
What was the shipping at fcp?


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Re: [MBZ] 124 manuals on CD?

You guys know that both W124 and W126 manuals/CDs are online, don't you?

-D

> On May 24, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I'll trade you a set for the 126.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have 123, 126, and 107 CDs, are there versions for the 124 chassis?
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> --FT
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>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>> large or petty,
>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
>> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question


$150


Donald Snook via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM
I am pursuing a job opportunity in Memphis and if I get it, I will be 
moving to Memphis. I currently have three cars: 1. 1999 BMW 740iL with 
102,000 miles 2. 2000 BMW 740iL with 231,000 miles and 3. 1992 Ford 
F150. I really want to keep the truck, but I am not sure it will make 
sense to move it also. So, the real question is what is my 2000 BMW 
740iL really worth? I still love driving it. It has tons of options 
but lots of miles. The rear bumper has good hole/crack in the bottom 
of it. The interior is still in really good shape. There is a small 
spot of rust on the rear passenger door about the size of a lemon. It 
is surface rust. Everything works. Any thoughts?



Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] 87 td AC woes

2017-05-24 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Good call! I guess I assumed that he had had it vacuumed and filled. 
At HF yesterday I noticed their vacuum pumps were about $100 and $160, and 
their gauge sets were about $60.
IMO he should fix the auxiliary AC fan sometime during the repair and put a 
shroud on the main fan if he can find one because he's going to have problems 
in heavy stop and go traffic if he doesn't, and those problems might include 
engine cooling as well. (That's assuming his '87 acts the same as my '83).
Gerry


MG wrote:
> Only one thing that Gerry left out.
> 
> Did you connect a vacuum pump after you put the NEW receiver 
> drier in and a new expansion valve. Each time the compressor 
> quits all the cleaning has to be done and a solid vacuum pulled.
> Living in Florida I run the pump for at least an hour just 
> because I have the time and it helps boil any moisture out of the 
> system. Then close the gauges off and see if the vacuum stays the 
> same after an additional hour. If so then you put the freon in.
> 
> If you didn't do the vacuum then there is air and moisture in 
> there and the new receiver drier is probably dead with moisture 
> right from the beginning.
> 
> archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> >> Pressure goes super high, then the compressor fails. It will cool for about
> >> 30-40 minutes per compressor. Has new evaporator, new expansion valve new
> >> drier, now on compressor #3 (or about to be). Control unit is new. At least
> >> one new pressure hose. All the vac pods are new, as is the dash. Works
> >> great for awhile, then gradually gets warmer over an hour or so, and that's
> >> it.
> >> Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this further? Tired of throwing
> >> compressors at it. Nippodenso units from rock auto, same as original. Of
> >> course the motor is a 606 now.
> >> Thanks
> > ~
> > Has the AC auxiliary fan been coming on?
> > 
> > Did you disconnect all the lines and wash, then blow, them out using AC 
> > solvent from NAPA or elsewhere in the opposite direction from their 
> > direction of flow?
> > 
> > Did you replace the main freon filter/reservoir?
> > 
> > Do you have a set of AC gauges (about $60 at HF)?. If so, what were the 
> > readings when the AC was not working properly? (Carefully learn how the 
> > gauges work so you don't accidentally send high pressure into low pressure 
> > cans of freon and/or the low pressure gauges, which could be very injurious 
> > or fatal).
> > 
> > Which lubricant did you use when you replaced compressors, etc? Did you add 
> > the specified amount? 
> > 
> > Did you add the freon with the can upright or inverted?
> > 
> > If you added the freon using the typical low pressure gauge that comes with 
> > some cans of freon, what was the pressure reading when you finished? 
> > 
> > Did you have a household or shop fan blowing through the radiator and 
> > condenser when you added the freon? Did you have the AC set on max cool and 
> > max fan speed?
> > 
> > What has the temperature been where you live?
> > 
> > There is supposed to an (add-on?) filter that can be installed in the 
> > return line just before the compressor, but I've never heard any discussion 
> > about it on this list, or have seen it listed anywhere. Also, I have no 
> > idea where it would be installed without cutting the return line. This is 
> > supposed to keep the shedded debris from old freon lines from getting in to 
> > the AC pump and other parts.
> > 
> > Which car is this? All my experience has been with an '83 300D and '83 240D.
> > 
> > Most FLAPS have a book on auto AC repair which should give you the correct 
> > amounts of freon and oil to add. The different types of oils should not be 
> > mixed
> > (see the book for a discussion of that.)
> > 
> > It's 2 am here in Florida. Later this AM someone with more knowledge than I 
> > should be able to help you.
> > Good luck,
> > Gerry 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] What's With

they don't rust away in lost wages either.   When I went to junkyards 
there, they kept hauling in trailerloads of what looked like perfectly 
good cars.


I think the rule of thumb for the yippies, dinks, etc, is if the repair 
cost more than 1 or 2 x the current car payment, it goes away.  They buy 
a new(er) car.



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM
Older cars in Southern states? I'm at the in-laws in central Florida 
for a few days, and I don't see ANY older iron on the road.

Kind of puzzling to me. They don't rust away down here.

What gives?

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie

Nope - it doesn't have that cool barber pole vertical speedometer.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bumpers have been altered.  Ugly.  Fix those, and you have a pretty, red,
> appreciating classic.  A lot better to drive than a phinny.
>
>
>

-- 
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie

Bumpers have been altered.  Ugly.  Fix those, and you have a pretty, red,
appreciating classic.  A lot better to drive than a phinny.

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> For the right person with some mechanical skills, I would think that could
> be GREAT bait for the BAT buyers.  Fix the a/c and if the transmission
> issue is simple fix it too. Clean it up, take some very generous photos and
> try to get $9000 for it!
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Knoble [mailto:rickkno...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:34 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6141343137.html
>
> Potential BaT flip...?
>
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Re: [MBZ] What's With

Why wouldn't cars rust in FL, with all that rain plus the salt-laden air?

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> They all buy new vehicles, then the old ones get sold up north where they
> can rust away, making room for more new ones.
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Older cars in Southern states? I'm at the in-laws in central Florida for
> a
> > few days, and I don't see ANY older iron on the road.
> > Kind of puzzling to me. They don't rust away down here.
> >
> > What gives?
> >
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load of this crack infested monster

You'd be surprised.  An unmolested one owner, documented 220 or 250 in
concours condition would easily attract five figures.

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> Collector?  I loved my old 71 250. But, I knew it wasn't a collector car.
> Maybe the 250C could be a collector, but the regular 114 250 is a nice car,
> but its never going to demand collector prices.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:18 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load
> of this crack infested monster
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Mercedes-Benz-Other-/282490474929?hash=
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie

For the right person with some mechanical skills, I would think that could be 
GREAT bait for the BAT buyers.  Fix the a/c and if the transmission issue is 
simple fix it too. Clean it up, take some very generous photos and try to get 
$9000 for it! 

Don Snook 

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6141343137.html

Potential BaT flip...?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 124 manuals on CD?

Yes, I'll trade you a set for the 126.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> I have 123, 126, and 107 CDs, are there versions for the 124 chassis?
>
>
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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[MBZ] 124 manuals on CD?


I have 123, 126, and 107 CDs, are there versions for the 124 chassis?


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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] 87 td AC woes

Bubbles = working compressor.

The FSM section 83 has about 21 steps for complete diagnosis of the HVAC
system from end to end.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ok so it has bubbles in the window. Ambient was 68 and it put out very cold
> air on the way to work. Compressor may not be shot? No accessory fan at
> all, though would not expect it with this weather.
>
> Might as well order the gauges.
>
> On May 24, 2017 10:11 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > No orifice tube, this has an expansion valve.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Do these have an orifice tube?  Could be that instead.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

http://www.mercedesmedic.com/decode/ has links to 3 sites, the russian 
one seems best but then you have to get the paint code and go look it up 
like at paintscratch.com or some other paint match site


--FT


On 5/24/17 1:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Someone posted a link some time ago - from the Russians maybe?

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:31:19 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:


Data plate on the upper radiator support? Then find the magic decoder
table.

And where does one find the "magic decoder table"?


Craig

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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] I need moneys for my meth

The 116 stars are nla? Wow. 

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> On May 24, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And those W116 hood stars were NLA ten years ago, MBUSA thinks it's good 
> enough to just stick a W123 star on one instead. I bought mine on eBay for 
> $20, but I don't know if it would be easy to find another. On the plus side, 
> that was the only year to get the high lift camshaft in a W116.
> Mitch. 
>> On May 24, 2017 at 8:51 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6126863020.html
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
>> Winston Churchill:
>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
>> or petty,
>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
>> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Instead of a Finnie

Poos should go check that out for sure 

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> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6141343137.html
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> Potential BaT flip...?
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Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question

Drive a 740 to Meffis, fly back and tow the other one with the truck.  
Yer all good.


I have some good friends who live in/near Memphis if you need any advice 
on places to live, etc.


--R


On 5/24/17 12:48 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I am pursuing a job opportunity in Memphis and if I get it, I will be moving to 
Memphis.  I currently have three cars:  1. 1999 BMW 740iL with 102,000 miles  
2.  2000 BMW 740iL with 231,000 miles and 3. 1992 Ford F150.   I really want to 
keep the truck, but I am not sure it will make sense to move it also.  So, the 
real question is what is my 2000 BMW 740iL really worth?   I still love driving 
it.  It has tons of options but lots of miles.   The rear bumper has good 
hole/crack in the bottom of it.  The interior is still in really good shape.  
There is a small spot of rust on the rear passenger door about the size of a 
lemon.  It is surface rust.   Everything works.   Any thoughts?


Donald H. Snook


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Low miles '91 500SL on BAT

Denial is a moron.

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>  wrote:
> 
> Somebody send the link to Denial. 
> He'd love to watch a 26 year old Mustang sell for $20k.
> 
> Mitch. 
>> On May 24, 2017 at 11:21 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting auction.  I'm not going to guess where this will land. When
>> these first came out with their instant pop up roll bar they were the most
>> amazing technological advance since the slow cooker.
>> 
>> Could a no-design sports car possibly look any more boring than in
>> black/black?  I think not.
>> 
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991-mercedes-benz-500sl-5/
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Re: [MBZ] 87 td AC woes

2017-05-24 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

Ok so it has bubbles in the window. Ambient was 68 and it put out very cold
air on the way to work. Compressor may not be shot? No accessory fan at
all, though would not expect it with this weather.

Might as well order the gauges.

On May 24, 2017 10:11 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> No orifice tube, this has an expansion valve.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Do these have an orifice tube?  Could be that instead.
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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

It's 249 Spruce Green Metallic, paintscratch.com seems to suggest it has 
clearcoat


--FT


On 5/24/17 12:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Data plate on the upper radiator support? Then find the magic decoder table.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


How would one tell?  It looks dull with various minor scratchings but no
CC coming off that I see

--FT



On 5/24/17 11:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


My '95 sedan has clear coat (that is failing) over blue paint.

My '95 Cabriolet does not have clear coat over arctic white paint.

I suspect that your green paint will have clear coat.

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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

I forgot about an example. I bought the lwb off poos, flew down to Tampa, 
picked car up and stayed the night in st Pete. Next morning battery was dead. 
Alternator was dead. Did I call poos? No. I got to an autozone and bought a new 
one and installed it in the parking lot.

Hmm maybe poos does sell piles of crap. Lord only know what that car would have 
brought on BAT.

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>  wrote:
> 
> Wow.  This is getting ridiculous.  If he buys as many cars as you reported, 
> he should have enough experience to know that he is out of luck.  He probably 
> just pesters and annoys a seller until they give in.   
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: d...@penoff.com [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:22 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!
> 
> Just got a text from the guy with a picture of a flat tire. He wants me to 
> call him.
> 
> Oh, brother.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 23, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> When I sold my daily drive 123 wagon, the speedometer died for the new owner 
>> within a couple miles of leaving my house,  and then something else I don't 
>> remember died later in that trip.  I felt bad, would have fixed those in 
>> advance if I'd known, but that is how it goes sometimes.  I think the kid 
>> also ran over a tire at highway speed and knocked the muffler off.
>> -- 
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>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] I need moneys for my meth

On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:36:14 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> And those W116 hood stars were NLA ten years ago, MBUSA thinks it's
> good enough to just stick a W123 star on one instead. I bought mine on
> eBay for $20, but I don't know if it would be easy to find another. On
> the plus side, that was the only year to get the high lift camshaft in
> a W116. Mitch.

Aren't W123 stars now NLA?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] behr thermostat H thermostat

What was the shipping at fcp? 

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> On May 24, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> $34 there.   They ding you $15 for shipping, and the thermostat is over $3 
> more to start with.   FCP won this one.$34 vs $20.
> 
> The thermostat for the H looks like it will cost  me  at least $45, and the 2 
> short hunks of hose cost that much again.  One is 1.25 x 1.75 long and the 
> other is 1.75 x 4" long.  You have to buy a foot.  BUT it looks like very 
> good hose.  It should last another 40 or 50 years.  What I took off looks 
> like it was made in the 60os or 70s.  The new stuff is better hose.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 24, 2017 at 7:28 AM
>> You should have checked importecautoparts.com, about 8 out of 10 times they 
>> are cheaper.
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Re: [MBZ] 87 td AC woes

No orifice tube, this has an expansion valve.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
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> Do these have an orifice tube?  Could be that instead.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

Someone posted a link some time ago - from the Russians maybe?

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:31:19 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Data plate on the upper radiator support? Then find the magic decoder
> > table.
>
> And where does one find the "magic decoder table"?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:31:19 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
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> Data plate on the upper radiator support? Then find the magic decoder
> table.

And where does one find the "magic decoder table"?


Craig

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[MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question

I am pursuing a job opportunity in Memphis and if I get it, I will be moving to 
Memphis.  I currently have three cars:  1. 1999 BMW 740iL with 102,000 miles  
2.  2000 BMW 740iL with 231,000 miles and 3. 1992 Ford F150.   I really want to 
keep the truck, but I am not sure it will make sense to move it also.  So, the 
real question is what is my 2000 BMW 740iL really worth?   I still love driving 
it.  It has tons of options but lots of miles.   The rear bumper has good 
hole/crack in the bottom of it.  The interior is still in really good shape.  
There is a small spot of rust on the rear passenger door about the size of a 
lemon.  It is surface rust.   Everything works.   Any thoughts?


Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] What's With

They all buy new vehicles, then the old ones get sold up north where they
can rust away, making room for more new ones.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Older cars in Southern states? I'm at the in-laws in central Florida for a
> few days, and I don't see ANY older iron on the road.
> Kind of puzzling to me. They don't rust away down here.
>
> What gives?
>
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[MBZ] What's With

2017-05-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Older cars in Southern states? I'm at the in-laws in central Florida for a few 
days, and I don't see ANY older iron on the road.
Kind of puzzling to me. They don't rust away down here.

What gives?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] I love it

2017-05-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yil9wlfa0yo=em

"Fix the cigarette lighter."

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] I need moneys for my meth

And those W116 hood stars were NLA ten years ago, MBUSA thinks it's good enough 
to just stick a W123 star on one instead. I bought mine on eBay for $20, but I 
don't know if it would be easy to find another. On the plus side, that was the 
only year to get the high lift camshaft in a W116.
Mitch. 
> On May 24, 2017 at 8:51 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6126863020.html
> 
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
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[MBZ] Instead of a Finnie

2017-05-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6141343137.html

Potential BaT flip...?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Low miles '91 500SL on BAT

Somebody send the link to Denial. 
He'd love to watch a 26 year old Mustang sell for $20k.

Mitch. 
> On May 24, 2017 at 11:21 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting auction.  I'm not going to guess where this will land. When
> these first came out with their instant pop up roll bar they were the most
> amazing technological advance since the slow cooker.
> 
> Could a no-design sports car possibly look any more boring than in
> black/black?  I think not.
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991-mercedes-benz-500sl-5/
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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

Data plate on the upper radiator support? Then find the magic decoder table.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> How would one tell?  It looks dull with various minor scratchings but no
> CC coming off that I see
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 5/24/17 11:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> My '95 sedan has clear coat (that is failing) over blue paint.
>>
>> My '95 Cabriolet does not have clear coat over arctic white paint.
>>
>> I suspect that your green paint will have clear coat.
>>
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> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] OT My 2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible will soon be bought back by VW

The latest on the VW buy-back and fixes:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/volkswagen-isnt-sure-what-to-do-with-the-diesel-cars-it-bought-back/ar-BBBt1ca?li=BBnb4R5=mailsignout


On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> And he bought it 6 months after the scandal erupted, so it wasn't like
> they were compensating an unwitting victim of the emissions fraud.
> Then a month after Kevin bought it, VW announced the buyback. I bet the
> seller was kicking himself about then.
> Makes me wish I'd bought myself one for Christmas in 2015, when nobody was
> buying used TDIs and prices were low.
> Mitch.
>
> > On May 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > So, you bought it used and were still able to get the buy back? I have
> been wondering about whether the buyback only applied to new car purchasers.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT My 2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible will soon be bought back by VW

And he bought it 6 months after the scandal erupted, so it wasn't like they 
were compensating an unwitting victim of the emissions fraud. 
Then a month after Kevin bought it, VW announced the buyback. I bet the seller 
was kicking himself about then. 
Makes me wish I'd bought myself one for Christmas in 2015, when nobody was 
buying used TDIs and prices were low. 
Mitch. 

> On May 24, 2017 at 11:48 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So, you bought it used and were still able to get the buy back? I have been 
> wondering about whether the buyback only applied to new car purchasers.   
> 
> Don Snook 
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Re: [MBZ] I love it

Wrong car.  The one in the movie was a mid 70's Dodge Monaco. 

"It's got a cop motor, a four hundred and forty cubic inch plant. It's got cop 
tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic 
converters, so it'll run good on regular gas. What do you say? Is it the new 
Bluesmobile or what?" 

Don Snook 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:50 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] I love it

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6135300499.html


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Re: [MBZ] What's that clunking noise?

2017-05-24 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Major rust right front fender.

Collison damage to rear corners poorly repaired, bondo, now rusting out.  Rust 
on both rear window frames, rear gate window frame.

Rust at trailing edges of both rear fenders.  Much cheaper to transplant drive 
train into a clean body.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 24, 2017 11:19:28 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>if the rust is all small spots, why not just fix it.Appaloosa.
>
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> May 24, 2017 at 7:37 AM
>> You should buy that coupe from Mehdi
>>
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] So much cocaine, so little time

That does seem high. 

But, the CDs are going for crazy money recently.  I was at an auction last year 
and an 83 CD with 230,000 miles went for $7500.  But, it was in spectacular 
condition and had 3 binders of receipts and records that showed the owner was 
beyond meticulous about maintenance.  The engine bay was spotless but was not 
covered in armor all.  It was that butter yellow color with the saddle tan 
interior.  

Don Snook 

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] So much cocaine, so little time



Rare 1981 Mercedes 300 cd
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/6144686154.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

I was thinking about that just now.  I felt bad about it.  That was bad timing 
indeed.  

Don Snook 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

The odometer died about 24 miles from Snooks house when I bought the 300D 2.5T 
from him in Wichita - told him when he reached out and asked how the trip home 
was - but never thought about seeking redress - it was an old used car . . .

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Thanks, everyone. Your comments make me feel better. I understand 
> clearly that a used car is a used car, and that stuff can break 10 
> miles or 100 miles from where you got the car - or never for that matter.
>
> I pride myself in being as open and honest about any car I sell and 
> even if stuff breaks, I still feel bad about it. That doesn't mean I 
> feel obligated to fix or make it right.  The buyer has to do their due 
> diligence whether they rely on their personal experience or get a PPI 
> done.  I just don't want to have to deal with the hassle of an angry buyer.
>
>  I've really been lucky in that I've never had a car I've bought crap 
> out on me on my way home (yet.)  Maybe I'm just living right or I'm 
> cautious enough to know when to forego the drive and pay to have it 
> shipped.  I know that fear when you're driving a new to you car and 
> something acts up or you hear a weird noise - freaks you out and puts 
> you on edge for a good 10-20 miles.
>
> I'm going to ignore the request for a phone call and see if he tries 
> to reach out to me tomorrow.  If he does I'll see if he reveals what 
> his motivation is. I'll certainly help him get the bad shock replaced 
> if he's civil. If not, the door closes and he gets blocked.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 23, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > No that is ridiculous to call about a flat tire. Geez
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 23, 2017, at 5:45 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Beginning to sound like a scam artistWants you to feel bad and 
> >> offer
> him some money back
> >> Would you call to complain about a flat tire?
> >> Cut him loose. I would not respond.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
> >>  Original message From: Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-05-23  5:22 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> < d...@penoff.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!
> >> Just got a text from the guy with a picture of a flat tire. He 
> >> wants me
> to call him.
> >>
> >> Oh, brother.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On May 23, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> When I sold my daily drive 123 wagon, the speedometer died for the 
> >>> new
> owner within a couple miles of leaving my house,  and then something 
> else I don't remember died later in that trip.  I felt bad, would have 
> fixed those in advance if I'd known, but that is how it goes 
> sometimes.  I think the kid also ran over a tire at highway speed and knocked 
> the muffler off.
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Re: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load of this crack infested monster

Collector?  I loved my old 71 250. But, I knew it wasn't a collector car.  
Maybe the 250C could be a collector, but the regular 114 250 is a nice car, but 
its never going to demand collector prices. 

Don Snook 

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Subject: [MBZ] If you thought the green 220D was full of crack, get a load of 
this crack infested monster

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Mercedes-Benz-Other-/282490474929?hash=item41c5be91b1:g:oU0AAOSwK6RZIktS=mtr



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Re: [MBZ] 87 td AC woes

Do these have an orifice tube?  Could be that instead. 

Don Snook 

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Replace the condenser, it's plugged.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

Mitch wrote: 

"When I drove the S210 home from MA, it lost a lot of air in the left front 
overnight in Ohio. That leak turned out to be a cracked rim. And no, I never 
told the seller about it, even though he'd almost surely been airing it up 
daily and failed to mention it to me. I just bought another rim on eBay for $55 
and went on with my life." 

That is the way it is supposed to work.  Unless the seller actively concealed 
something (and your story is close), then it is part of the purchase of a used 
car -- at least from a private seller.  

Don Snook  

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Geez. I had a better trip from Port Charlotte to Charlotte Michigan in the $550 
W116. Spent the night in northern Georgia, found a low tire the next morning, 
blew it up before I left the motel, then when I got out of Chattanooga traffic 
I noticed a vibration in the rear. Turned out to be a dead shock absorber, 
which the seller masked by running 20psi in the right rear. That was my only 
mishap though (unless almost looping it in the rain when it downshifted into 
first in a low speed corner counts as a mishap). And IIRC he told me it needed 
shocks before I left Michigan.

When I drove the S210 home from MA, it lost a lot of air in the left front 
overnight in Ohio. That leak turned out to be a cracked rim. And no, I never 
told the seller about it, even though he'd almost surely been airing it up 
daily and failed to mention it to me. I just bought another rim on eBay for $55 
and went on with my life. 
Mitch. 

> On May 23, 2017 at 6:22 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just got a text from the guy with a picture of a flat tire. He wants me to 
> call him.

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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

Wow.  This is getting ridiculous.  If he buys as many cars as you reported, he 
should have enough experience to know that he is out of luck.  He probably just 
pesters and annoys a seller until they give in.   

Don Snook 

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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

Just got a text from the guy with a picture of a flat tire. He wants me to call 
him.

Oh, brother.

-D

> On May 23, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When I sold my daily drive 123 wagon, the speedometer died for the new owner 
> within a couple miles of leaving my house,  and then something else I don't 
> remember died later in that trip.  I felt bad, would have fixed those in 
> advance if I'd known, but that is how it goes sometimes.  I think the kid 
> also ran over a tire at highway speed and knocked the muffler off.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT My 2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible will soon be bought back by VW

So, you bought it used and were still able to get the buy back? I have been 
wondering about whether the buyback only applied to new car purchasers.   

Don Snook 

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From: Kevin Kraly [mailto:kevinpadd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:22 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] OT My 2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible will soon be bought back by 
VW

The end is near for my ownership of the 2014 Beetle TDI Convertible.  I 
scheduled my buyback appointment for Monday, June 12, 2017.  It will be going 
back with around 16Kmi on the clock.  Coincidentally, that is nearly a year to 
the day from when I originally contacted the seller in Templeton, CA.  I paid 
$21,500 for the car, and $1600 for tires,  the convertible wind block and TDI 
floor mats which will be installed on my new 2015 model.  The buyback offer is 
$28,841.61 which may vary slightly due to mileage, and the new car was $24,749. 
 The ownership experience with the 2014 has been wonderful!  Even better, it 
gave me the opportunity to purchase the brand new 2015 without any additional 
cost other than the flight, hotel and fuel for the awesome road trip.  I know 
that it’s not a Mercedes, but it certainly has quite a lot of fun factor, and 
the little TDI is zippy!  It does use Pee,  AKA Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) 
which the 2014 does not.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

How would one tell?  It looks dull with various minor scratchings but no 
CC coming off that I see


--FT


On 5/24/17 11:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

My '95 sedan has clear coat (that is failing) over blue paint.

My '95 Cabriolet does not have clear coat over arctic white paint.

I suspect that your green paint will have clear coat.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The stuff nightmares are made of

So land subsidence is your opinion?  If so then send money to the Koch
Brothers.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> K!  (covering ears)  We don' wanna hear the truth.  We'll call it
> fake news and run away screaming
>
> And don't forget to send money to albore!  He hasta keep his 6 mansions
> warm/cool so he can burn  bargeloads of jet fuel to tell us all to stop
> burning fuel!
>
>> Craig via Mercedes 
>> May 24, 2017 at 8:32 AM
>> On Wed, 24 May 2017 08:42:30 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>
>> That's what you are told, but that's not what is true. Has anyone
>> mentioned land subsidence? When the northern part of North America had
>> two miles of ice on it, that pushed that part of the continent down,
>> causing surrounding areas to rise. Now that the ice is gone, the part
>> that was pushed down is rising and the parts that were pushed up are
>> falling.
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I love it

Very cute!  I wonder how long it would take before becoming riddled with
bullet holes, one set on each side from LE and Evildoers.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Now, rather than being a Long Term Debt (LTD) is should be a STD.
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> May 24, 2017 at 7:49 AM
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6135300499.html
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

2017-05-24 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Also, make sure the fuse terminals are clean.  Heat is what blows fuses,
and a high-stress fuse in a dirty holder can blow for "no good reason".

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The stuff nightmares are made of



K!  (covering ears)  We don' wanna hear the truth.  We'll call 
it fake news and run away screaming


And don't forget to send money to albore!  He hasta keep his 6 mansions 
warm/cool so he can burn  bargeloads of jet fuel to tell us all to stop 
burning fuel!

Craig via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 8:32 AM
On Wed, 24 May 2017 08:42:30 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

That's what you are told, but that's not what is true. Has anyone
mentioned land subsidence? When the northern part of North America had
two miles of ice on it, that pushed that part of the continent down,
causing surrounding areas to rise. Now that the ice is gone, the part
that was pushed down is rising and the parts that were pushed up are
falling.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The stuff nightmares are made of

Please provide a link to this scientific study.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 24 May 2017 08:42:30 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I am at 9.5ft.  High tides this week (new moon) are on the order of
> > 6.8ft.  The last coupla days we have had lots of tstorm rains, very
> > heavy at times.  Throw in the runoff and the marshes (including my back
> > yard) are pretty high.  The City of Charleston, built on filled marsh,
> > is now experiencing flooding during these events (either rainstorms or
> > high tides or both for the double whammy) on a regular basis.  Friend
> > had to go into town yesterday afternoon, she had to park 6 blocks from
> > where she was going and walk through knee-deep water to get there.
> > Many cars flooded, many streets flooded, many idiots flooded.  This has
> > been and will continue to get worse as we are told sea levels are
> > rising.
>
> That's what you are told, but that's not what is true. Has anyone
> mentioned land subsidence? When the northern part of North America had
> two miles of ice on it, that pushed that part of the continent down,
> causing surrounding areas to rise. Now that the ice is gone, the part
> that was pushed down is rising and the parts that were pushed up are
> falling.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I need moneys for my meth

No Paypals!  No title but easy to get.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6126863020.html
>
>
> --
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> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] BAT Away!

Just pop in a higher rated fuse - that's what I did.  No problems since.

Andrew
1983 300TD

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If it still has the fuse in the fuse box it is common. They issued a fix
> which was a separate strip fuse outside the fuse box.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 24, 2017, at 6:39 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Got a text from him this morning. Says he's about 2-1/2 hours from home,
> and other than the tire the ACC blower fuse has blown several times.  He's
> not complaining but asking for any suggestions on how to resolve the
> situation.  That is far more pleasant than I expected, so I'll offer
> suggestions.
> >
> > I suspect the blower isn't used to running for such extended periods and
> probably needs lubrication.  At least that's what I'm going to suggest he
> do - drop the blower and hit the bushings with some ATF when he gets home.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > On May 23, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> So what's the story with that? How did it [Ethelred] end up a parts
> car?
> >>
> >>
> >> Some people should _not_ buy a used car.  I don't think the woman I
> sold it
> >> to was able to deal with its inevitable age-related issues.  I know she
> >> never titled it in her name, because the popo's came after me for
> parking
> >> tickets.  Idiots in State.  Why was _I_ responsible for contacting
> >> Department A and forwarding the paperwork to Department B?
> >>
> >> Anyway, I saw it a year or so ago in front of a garage, and the paint
> was
> >> really looking bad.  (It looked fairly good when it left me.)  Next
> time I
> >> saw it, it was at my guy's place, looking even worse.  It was hard to
> tell
> >> whether it had been mine or not, they all do look alike, but the
> brand-new
> >> upholstery decided it for me.  That, and the fact that the trunk paint
> was
> >> still good.  (I had had that repainted.)
> >>
> >> That was a fun, _fun_ little car.  Too bad it got ruined.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] behr thermostat

I always order from AutohausAZ.com  They carry a W123 Behr thermostat for
under $20.00

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> You should have checked importecautoparts.com, about 8 out of 10 times
> they are cheaper.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > FCP Yuro did not have a Behr.  I ordered one of the other brand they
> had.  $20 delivered.
> >
> > Advance has one that looks right. for $16.
> >
> > Now if I could just do that well with the Farmall H.  Thermostat has
> been stuck open in it for years.  I thought is had no thermostat.  It
> appears to be a MB-like bypass system.  The H has a small hose, 1.25" ID x
> 1.75 long between the water pump and thermostat housing, which is bolted to
> the front of the head and then has a 2" hose to the top of the radiator.
> The little hose had a big bubble on the side but did not blow.  So while I
> am replacing the little hose, it is time to put a good thermostat in it
> also.
> >
> > Thermostats for that are going for $45 up.
> >
> > Things seem to go in cycles.  I guess this is the thermostat cycle.  A
> couple years ago it was batteries for all...  Thermostats are cheaper.
> >> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >> May 23, 2017 at 5:36 PM
> >> FCP Euro.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >> Original Message
> >> From: Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:13 PM
> >> To: Mercedes_Discussion_List
> >> Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Cc: Curley McLain
> >> Subject: [MBZ] behr thermostat
> >>
> >>
> >> It has been eons since I had to buy a thermostat. It appears the
> >> thermostat in the 240D is now officially stuck open.
> >>
> >> Has anyone found a good price lately? meanwhile, i will be looking
> around.
> >>
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> >>
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[MBZ] Low miles '91 500SL on BAT

Interesting auction.  I'm not going to guess where this will land. When
these first came out with their instant pop up roll bar they were the most
amazing technological advance since the slow cooker.

Could a no-design sports car possibly look any more boring than in
black/black?  I think not.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991-mercedes-benz-500sl-5/
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Re: [MBZ] I love it


Now, rather than being a Long Term Debt (LTD) is should be a STD.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 7:49 AM
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6135300499.html




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Re: [MBZ] What's that clunking noise?


if the rust is all small spots, why not just fix it.Appaloosa.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 7:37 AM
You should buy that coupe from Mehdi

--R


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Re: [MBZ] behr thermostat H thermostat

$34 there.   They ding you $15 for shipping, and the thermostat is over 
$3 more to start with.   FCP won this one.$34 vs $20.


The thermostat for the H looks like it will cost  me  at least $45, and 
the 2 short hunks of hose cost that much again.  One is 1.25 x 1.75 long 
and the other is 1.75 x 4" long.  You have to buy a foot.  BUT it looks 
like very good hose.  It should last another 40 or 50 years.  What I 
took off looks like it was made in the 60os or 70s.  The new stuff is 
better hose.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 24, 2017 at 7:28 AM
You should have checked importecautoparts.com, about 8 out of 10 times 
they are cheaper.


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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

My '95 sedan has clear coat (that is failing) over blue paint.

My '95 Cabriolet does not have clear coat over arctic white paint.

I suspect that your green paint will have clear coat.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints


I don't think so

--FT


On 5/24/17 9:54 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I'll put something up this evening. No clearcoat, I assume?

-D


On May 24, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

The paint on this new green E320 is a bit faded so I was thinking this weekend 
to go at it with the Poos methods if he could relate the proper procedures to 
revitalize the shine and get this Benz looking new again.

I seem to recall it involves clay bars and buffing using various products in 
particular stages.

Tutorial please!

--FT
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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Poosing the Paints

2017-05-24 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

I'll put something up this evening. No clearcoat, I assume?

-D

> On May 24, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The paint on this new green E320 is a bit faded so I was thinking this 
> weekend to go at it with the Poos methods if he could relate the proper 
> procedures to revitalize the shine and get this Benz looking new again.
> 
> I seem to recall it involves clay bars and buffing using various products in 
> particular stages.
> 
> Tutorial please!
> 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] What's that clunking noise?

2017-05-24 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

I'll have to move into that horse barn, pay some alimony, have some critical 
parts surgically re-attached
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 24, 2017 8:37:00 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>You should buy that coupe from Mehdi
>
>--R
>
>
>On 5/23/17 7:16 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Actually, this car is now too rusty for me, and will soon be
>replaced.
>>
>> I've got rust through of the rocker panel behind the right front
>wheel, and
>> a few other smaller spots.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow. Look at the *dust* instead of *rust*‎.
>>>
>>> I am officially done with rust belt cars...
>>>
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>large or petty,
>never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
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Re: [MBZ] 87 td AC woes

2017-05-24 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

I forgot to say the last work was done by my mechanic, who does nothing but
old mercedes. I assume he flushed it all out and rechecked it
appropriately. But I am getting tired of paying people for it to not work.

 Of course it is a swap to 606 and some of the wrong pressure sensors had
been used, and the control unit from a sedan, so it was not straightforward
to sort out. But he thought he had all parts back to stock and working.

On May 23, 2017 11:44 PM, "archer75--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

>
> Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> > Pressure goes super high, then the compressor fails. It will cool for
> about
> > 30-40 minutes per compressor. Has new evaporator, new expansion valve new
> > drier, now on compressor #3 (or about to be). Control unit is new. At
> least
> > one new pressure hose. All the vac pods are new, as is the dash. Works
> > great for awhile, then gradually gets warmer over an hour or so, and
> that's
> > it.
> > Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this further? Tired of throwing
> > compressors at it. Nippodenso units from rock auto, same as original. Of
> > course the motor is a 606 now.
> > Thanks
> ~
> Has the AC auxiliary fan been coming on?
>
> Did you disconnect all the lines and wash, then blow, them out using AC
> solvent from NAPA or elsewhere in the opposite direction from their
> direction of flow?
>
> Did you replace the main freon filter/reservoir?
>
> Do you have a set of AC gauges (about $60 at HF)?. If so, what were the
> readings when the AC was not working properly? (Carefully learn how the
> gauges work so you don't accidentally send high pressure into low pressure
> cans of freon and/or the low pressure gauges, which could be very injurious
> or fatal).
>
> Which lubricant did you use when you replaced compressors, etc? Did you
> add the specified amount?
>
> Did you add the freon with the can upright or inverted?
>
> If you added the freon using the typical low pressure gauge that comes
> with some cans of freon, what was the pressure reading when you finished?
>
> Did you have a household or shop fan blowing through the radiator and
> condenser when you added the freon? Did you have the AC set on max cool and
> max fan speed?
>
> What has the temperature been where you live?
>
> There is supposed to an (add-on?) filter that can be installed in the
> return line just before the compressor, but I've never heard any discussion
> about it on this list, or have seen it listed anywhere. Also, I have no
> idea where it would be installed without cutting the return line. This is
> supposed to keep the shedded debris from old freon lines from getting in to
> the AC pump and other parts.
>
> Which car is this? All my experience has been with an '83 300D and '83
> 240D.
>
> Most FLAPS have a book on auto AC repair which should give you the correct
> amounts of freon and oil to add. The different types of oils should not be
> mixed
> (see the book for a discussion of that.)
>
> It's 2 am here in Florida. Later this AM someone with more knowledge than
> I should be able to help you.
> Good luck,
> Gerry
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The stuff nightmares are made of

On Wed, 24 May 2017 08:42:30 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I am at 9.5ft.  High tides this week (new moon) are on the order of 
> 6.8ft.  The last coupla days we have had lots of tstorm rains, very 
> heavy at times.  Throw in the runoff and the marshes (including my back 
> yard) are pretty high.  The City of Charleston, built on filled marsh, 
> is now experiencing flooding during these events (either rainstorms or 
> high tides or both for the double whammy) on a regular basis.  Friend 
> had to go into town yesterday afternoon, she had to park 6 blocks from 
> where she was going and walk through knee-deep water to get there.
> Many cars flooded, many streets flooded, many idiots flooded.  This has
> been and will continue to get worse as we are told sea levels are
> rising.

That's what you are told, but that's not what is true. Has anyone
mentioned land subsidence? When the northern part of North America had
two miles of ice on it, that pushed that part of the continent down,
causing surrounding areas to rise. Now that the ice is gone, the part
that was pushed down is rising and the parts that were pushed up are
falling.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 87 td AC woes

2017-05-24 Thread MG via Mercedes

Only one thing that Gerry left out.

Did you connect a vacuum pump after you put the NEW receiver
drier in and a new expansion valve. Each time the compressor
quits all the cleaning has to be done and a solid vacuum pulled.
Living in Florida I run the pump for at least an hour just
because I have the time and it helps boil any moisture out of the
system. Then close the gauges off and see if the vacuum stays the
same after an additional hour. If so then you put the freon in.

If you didn't do the vacuum then there is air and moisture in
there and the new receiver drier is probably dead with moisture
right from the beginning.

archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Karl Wittnebel wrote:

Pressure goes super high, then the compressor fails. It will cool for about
30-40 minutes per compressor. Has new evaporator, new expansion valve new
drier, now on compressor #3 (or about to be). Control unit is new. At least
one new pressure hose. All the vac pods are new, as is the dash. Works
great for awhile, then gradually gets warmer over an hour or so, and that's
it.
Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this further? Tired of throwing
compressors at it. Nippodenso units from rock auto, same as original. Of
course the motor is a 606 now.
Thanks

~
Has the AC auxiliary fan been coming on?

Did you disconnect all the lines and wash, then blow, them out using AC solvent
from NAPA or elsewhere in the opposite direction from their direction of flow?

Did you replace the main freon filter/reservoir?

Do you have a set of AC gauges (about $60 at HF)?. If so, what were the
readings when the AC was not working properly? (Carefully learn how the gauges
work so you don't accidentally send high pressure into low pressure cans of
freon and/or the low pressure gauges, which could be very injurious or fatal).

Which lubricant did you use when you replaced compressors, etc? Did you add the specified amount?

Did you add the freon with the can upright or inverted?

If you added the freon using the typical low pressure gauge that comes with some cans of freon, what was the pressure reading when you finished?

Did you have a household or shop fan blowing through the radiator and condenser
when you added the freon? Did you have the AC set on max cool and max fan speed?

What has the temperature been where you live?

There is supposed to an (add-on?) filter that can be installed in the return
line just before the compressor, but I've never heard any discussion about it
on this list, or have seen it listed anywhere. Also, I have no idea where it
would be installed without cutting the return line. This is supposed to keep
the shedded debris from old freon lines from getting in to the AC pump and
other parts.

Which car is this? All my experience has been with an '83 300D and '83 240D.

Most FLAPS have a book on auto AC repair which should give you the correct
amounts of freon and oil to add. The different types of oils should not be mixed
(see the book for a discussion of that.)

It's 2 am here in Florida. Later this AM someone with more knowledge than I
should be able to help you.
Good luck,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] 87 td AC woes

2017-05-24 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

Thanks for all the ideas.

There is a thread on pelican about it also. Air in the system, low airflow
thru condensor were two ideas.

I don't know whether fans were on. I doubt it actually, because it is loud,
so Iwould hAve heard it. I will try it again and look. I only used the ac
once.

My main fan has no shroud, so maybe I need to go electric SPAL there also.

Condenser plugged is possible. But why would it work great for awhile then
quit? I would think it would not cool well at all.

The tank is old. Pressure switches are new. Expansion valve and drier and
evaporator and pressure hose are new. Compressors have been rebuilds. Last
one from rock auto.

Ambient was only in the 80s.

Will follow up.



On May 23, 2017 11:44 PM, "archer75--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

>
> Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> > Pressure goes super high, then the compressor fails. It will cool for
> about
> > 30-40 minutes per compressor. Has new evaporator, new expansion valve new
> > drier, now on compressor #3 (or about to be). Control unit is new. At
> least
> > one new pressure hose. All the vac pods are new, as is the dash. Works
> > great for awhile, then gradually gets warmer over an hour or so, and
> that's
> > it.
> > Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this further? Tired of throwing
> > compressors at it. Nippodenso units from rock auto, same as original. Of
> > course the motor is a 606 now.
> > Thanks
> ~
> Has the AC auxiliary fan been coming on?
>
> Did you disconnect all the lines and wash, then blow, them out using AC
> solvent from NAPA or elsewhere in the opposite direction from their
> direction of flow?
>
> Did you replace the main freon filter/reservoir?
>
> Do you have a set of AC gauges (about $60 at HF)?. If so, what were the
> readings when the AC was not working properly? (Carefully learn how the
> gauges work so you don't accidentally send high pressure into low pressure
> cans of freon and/or the low pressure gauges, which could be very injurious
> or fatal).
>
> Which lubricant did you use when you replaced compressors, etc? Did you
> add the specified amount?
>
> Did you add the freon with the can upright or inverted?
>
> If you added the freon using the typical low pressure gauge that comes
> with some cans of freon, what was the pressure reading when you finished?
>
> Did you have a household or shop fan blowing through the radiator and
> condenser when you added the freon? Did you have the AC set on max cool and
> max fan speed?
>
> What has the temperature been where you live?
>
> There is supposed to an (add-on?) filter that can be installed in the
> return line just before the compressor, but I've never heard any discussion
> about it on this list, or have seen it listed anywhere. Also, I have no
> idea where it would be installed without cutting the return line. This is
> supposed to keep the shedded debris from old freon lines from getting in to
> the AC pump and other parts.
>
> Which car is this? All my experience has been with an '83 300D and '83
> 240D.
>
> Most FLAPS have a book on auto AC repair which should give you the correct
> amounts of freon and oil to add. The different types of oils should not be
> mixed
> (see the book for a discussion of that.)
>
> It's 2 am here in Florida. Later this AM someone with more knowledge than
> I should be able to help you.
> Good luck,
> Gerry
>
>
>
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