Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 22:47:53 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have recovered MB fans in this manner.  If they’re not completely
> frozen up sometimes you can resurrect them with a good soaking of Kroil
> and spinning them.

How do you get to the front bearing?


> Hopefully you’ll be able to get this one going,

As I mentioned, "When run on 12 Volts, it runs more slowly than the
other fan on the car, but it does run."

It's all buttoned back up and the car is back on the ground.


> just be careful if it’s loose and you put juice to it - they’re very
> powerful and will gladly remove digits given the opportunity.

Uh . yeah!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Allen took it in the behind

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Tough luck! Glad you didn't get hurt worse, Clay. Keep us posted. 
Numbness can indicate damage to the spinal nerves, or even worse, to the spinal 
cord. You might want to check on wearing a neck brace until you see your doctor 
in order to prevent any further damage if an intervertebral disc has collapsed 
or there is a broken neck bone. Drug stores usually have the soft type which 
allow movement. 

Gerry
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redghost--- wrote:
> I was driving to work this afternoon. Five cars ahead of me stopped at the 
> intersection, so I stopped as well. Next thing I know, my glasses fly off my 
> face, my forehead hits the wheel and and I am all con-fuddled. 
> Some granola, hairy legged, birkenstock gal slammed her honda into my bumper. 
> I am bleeding from the contusion on my head, she is going into shock and 
> calling the cops. Her front end went under my bumper and took out her hood, 
> headlights, bumper, and bent the frame and radiator. My bumper is going to 
> need a replacement. Might need shocks as well, but the rest of the car is 
> just fine. 
> The muscles are starting to get tight and pain setting in. Beginning to have 
> numbness at the neck and shoulder/arms. I thought there was some slurring of 
> speech about an hour after I got hit, but just my perception. I put a call in 
> to my medico for an appointment to see if there is lasting damage. 
> 
> We will see what Insco wants to do to make the car better. I could just grab 
> a PnP bumper and do the work myself. But there is cash to be had for the 
> repair. Medical will be the greater part of the payout. 
> 
> 
> 82 300SD 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Allen took it in the behind

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

Oh, Yeah, 

I got to use my First Aid kit to patch up my bleeding head. 

These cars are too cool. 

clay 

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Subject: [MBZ] Allen took it in the behind 

I was driving to work this afternoon. Five cars ahead of me stopped at the 
intersection, so I stopped as well. Next thing I know, my glasses fly off my 
face, my forehead hits the wheel and and I am all con-fuddled. 

Some granola, hairy legged, birkenstock gal slammed her honda into my bumper. I 
am bleeding from the contusion on my head, she is going into shock and calling 
the cops. Her front end went under my bumper and took out her hood, headlights, 
bumper, and bent the frame and radiator. My bumper is going to need a 
replacement. Might need shocks as well, but the rest of the car is just fine. 

The muscles are starting to get tight and pain setting in. Beginning to have 
numbness at the neck and shoulder/arms. I thought there was some slurring of 
speech about an hour after I got hit, but just my perception. I put a call in 
to my medico for an appointment to see if there is lasting damage. 

We will see what Insco wants to do to make the car better. I could just grab a 
PnP bumper and do the work myself. But there is cash to be had for the repair. 
Medical will be the greater part of the payout. 


82 300SD 

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[MBZ] Allen took it in the behind

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

I was driving to work this afternoon. Five cars ahead of me stopped at the 
intersection, so I stopped as well. Next thing I know, my glasses fly off my 
face, my forehead hits the wheel and and I am all con-fuddled. 

Some granola, hairy legged, birkenstock gal slammed her honda into my bumper. I 
am bleeding from the contusion on my head, she is going into shock and calling 
the cops. Her front end went under my bumper and took out her hood, headlights, 
bumper, and bent the frame and radiator. My bumper is going to need a 
replacement. Might need shocks as well, but the rest of the car is just fine. 

The muscles are starting to get tight and pain setting in. Beginning to have 
numbness at the neck and shoulder/arms. I thought there was some slurring of 
speech about an hour after I got hit, but just my perception. I put a call in 
to my medico for an appointment to see if there is lasting damage. 

We will see what Insco wants to do to make the car better. I could just grab a 
PnP bumper and do the work myself. But there is cash to be had for the repair. 
Medical will be the greater part of the payout. 


82 300SD 

clay 
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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Does it have an unbuggered burlwood dash?

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How much? Maybe I should buy it off you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That estate sale woman called me and said the seller accepted my offer
> on the CD. Ohsh...  I haven't driven it yet so guess I'd better do that
> after the eclipse madness. Maybe I'll find something I can beat the guy
> down a bit...  I don't really want or need the thing but I guess I could
> flip it
> >
> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

How much? Maybe I should buy it off you.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That estate sale woman called me and said the seller accepted my offer on the 
> CD. Ohsh...  I haven't driven it yet so guess I'd better do that after the 
> eclipse madness. Maybe I'll find something I can beat the guy down a bit...  
> I don't really want or need the thing but I guess I could flip it
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 19, 2017 at 7:13 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Or maybe I'm just a bit afraid of having people who know see the 
> wreck I'm driving. It's not too good close up. Lots of peeling 
> clearcoat.

My 2.3-16 was just starting to peel on the roof and the exhaust side of the 
hood when I bought it. In 2005.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have recovered MB fans in this manner.  If they’re not completely frozen up 
sometimes you can resurrect them with a good soaking of Kroil and spinning them.

Hopefully you’ll be able to get this one going, just be careful if it’s loose 
and you put juice to it - they’re very powerful and will gladly remove digits 
given the opportunity.

-D


> On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 15:33:23 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I got the defective fan out and was about to install the fan you sent,
>> but found it won't fit -- it's too large in diameter and the holes for
>> attaching the fan shroud are in the wrong places. The picture shows the
>> fan I removed on the left and the fan sent on the right.
> 
> Upon finding that the new fan would not fit, I looked more closely at the
> one I removed. Its condition is hinted at by the vast quantity of dirt
> and leaves I found behind it, as shown in the attached pictures.
> 
> I pounded the back of the fan motor, removed from the support frame, on
> the floor until I got no more dirt and then vacuumed it with a crevice
> tool attachment. After a while, the fan would rotate without making
> strange noises. I put a couple drops of turbine oil on the rear bearing
> for grins, put it back in its frame, and tried it out.
> 
> When spun by hand, it stops more quickly than the other fan on the car.
> When run on 12 Volts, it runs more slowly than the other fan on the car,
> but it does run.
> 
> I put the fan assembly and shroud back together. I'll put the bumper back
> on afternight so we can go to church tomorrow.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That estate sale woman called me and said the seller accepted my offer on the 
CD. Ohsh...  I haven't driven it yet so guess I'd better do that after the 
eclipse madness. Maybe I'll find something I can beat the guy down a bit...  I 
don't really want or need the thing but I guess I could flip it

--R
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 22:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Attaboy!
> How many weeks have "we" been going to church together since the
> extended stay in the ABQ hospital? Mitch.

This will be the first time.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 19, 2017 at 7:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> HA no worries about what you're driving, we've had VWs 2 or 3 years in a row. 
> I attach an MB hubcap to the grill for a disguise.
> To save money for the trip camp out. Our local campground is under $30 a 
> day...


That reminds me, do they have freeway rest stops in MA where you can crawl into 
the back of your ML for a few hours and catch some sleep? In Michigan, there's 
usually plenty of room in the truck/trailer side of the rest stop unless it's 
foggy or snowing and all the truckers are looking for a place to hide, and our 
rest stops are around 60 miles apart. 
Right about now, I wish I had that McNalley trucker's atlas that Craig told me 
to buy. Hmm, what do they cost with Amazon Prime?

After I finally get the radiator installed tomorrow, or give up and order an 
unbent one, I'll see if a twin airbed fits back there with the front seats full 
forward. But that would sort of eliminate my cargo space. Not much room for 
tools, jacks, ice chests, and dog crates if the whole back of the truck needs 
to be clear floor for the bed. W163 is really short. 6' from the tailgate 
appears to be in the middle of the front center armrest/storage bin. 


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Attaboy!
How many weeks have "we" been going to church together since the extended stay 
in the ABQ hospital?
Mitch.

> On August 19, 2017 at 8:41 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> I put the fan assembly and shroud back together. I'll put the bumper back
> on afternight so we can go to church tomorrow.
> 
>

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Re: [MBZ] Radiator fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 19, 2017 at 7:14 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What company did the shipping?

Fedex Ground, not United Parcel Smashers, so it's kind of surprising, 
especially since they had it for about 16 hours before it went on the delivery 
truck. Packages damaged, quickly and efficiently. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Bravo!  I'll bet it will work just fine.
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 19:16:26 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Wat to go Craig. Sounds like you are on the right track for the 
> transmission. Also sounds like you have a bit of work to do 
> replacing all those parts.

Thank you, MG.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:22:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You can’t disassemble those motors.  Not without destroying something
> in the process.

That's what I figured.


> Don’t ask me how I know.

OK, I won't.


Craog

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

HA no worries about what you're driving, we've had VWs 2 or 3 years in a row. I 
attach an MB hubcap to the grill for a disguise.
To save money for the trip camp out. Our local campground is under $30 a day...
-Curt

On Saturday, August 19, 2017, 7:13:20 PM EDT, MG via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Probably no contest until you add in the cost of an extra 6 
nights of hotel fees.  I guess I'm too cheap to go to those 
lengths to have some fun.
Or maybe I'm just a bit afraid of having people who know see the 
wreck I'm driving. It's not too good close up. Lots of peeling 
clearcoat.

MG

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> Isn't it better to spend 9 days in New England than in Florida this time of 
> year?
> Mitch. 
>> On August 19, 2017 at 1:16 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>
>>
>> It sure would be. Too bad I can't go. My High school reunion is 
>> the next weekend in New York and I'm not about to do that trip 
>> two weekends in a row from down here in Fl.
>>
>> Have fun!
>> MG
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[MG via Mercedes]

Wat to go Craig. Sounds like you are on the right track for the 
transmission. Also sounds like you have a bit of work to do 
replacing all those parts.


MG

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 00:44:27 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:


Any news on the transmission problem Craig?


I called Marc at SUN VALLEY MERCEDES TRANSMISSIONS
 15468 Cabrito Rd.
 Van Nuys, CA. 91406
 Phone: 818-782-2300

He said to check the cable to the transmission from the throttle linkage
(which is what I have been told by members of this list, but haven't had
time to do yet) by disconnecting it from the linkage and pulling it to
see if it acted like there was a spring on the other end.

If there is spring tension, he said, there might be problems with a valve
in the transmission (he said the name, but I don't remember what it was).

He did say that manually shifting the transmission would not do damage to
it. I specifically asked that because Shirley and I are planning to make
a road trip to Dallas to attend the Great American Trucking Show and
Austin to visit some friends like last year. We plan on leaving Tuesday
right after her follow-up appointment with the surgeon who did her total
hip replacement. So, if I don't have time to fix it correctly before then,
I can use it like it is. 


I'm working on the car today, first to replace the failed auxiliary fan
(for which Kaleb sent a replacement), then to charge the A/C system
(for which Kaleb sent a can of R-12), then to replace the driver's door
actuator (for which Kaleb sent a replacement) and trace down any locking
system leaks, then I don't know what, but I'm sure I'll find
something. :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Radiator fun

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What company did the shipping?

Rick
  Original Message  
From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 6:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radiator fun

They refunded me and told me to keep it, so I'm going to find out.
If not, I'll reorder tomorrow night and hope I have another one Tuesday. 
Looks like the bow in the bottom rail might hit the truck chassis when I drop 
it in place. 

It must have fallen out of the box (the box had been opened and retaped) and 
gotten jammed in a conveyor. I couldn't believe that it felt like a solid oak 
chair when I sat on it, no flex at all under my weight. Must have taken 
tremendous force to bend it. 

Mitch.‎
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[MG via Mercedes]

Probably no contest until you add in the cost of an extra 6 
nights of hotel fees.  I guess I'm too cheap to go to those 
lengths to have some fun.
Or maybe I'm just a bit afraid of having people who know see the 
wreck I'm driving. It's not too good close up. Lots of peeling 
clearcoat.


MG

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Isn't it better to spend 9 days in New England than in Florida this time of 
year?
Mitch. 

On August 19, 2017 at 1:16 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:


It sure would be. Too bad I can't go. My High school reunion is 
the next weekend in New York and I'm not about to do that trip 
two weekends in a row from down here in Fl.


Have fun!
MG


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Re: [MBZ] Radiator fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

They refunded me and told me to keep it, so I'm going to find out.
If not, I'll reorder tomorrow night and hope I have another one Tuesday. 
Looks like the bow in the bottom rail might hit the truck chassis when I drop 
it in place. 

It must have fallen out of the box (the box had been opened and retaped) and 
gotten jammed in a conveyor. I couldn't believe that it felt like a solid oak 
chair when I sat on it, no flex at all under my weight. Must have taken 
tremendous force to bend it. 

Mitch.

> On August 19, 2017 at 6:50 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Will the new bent radiator even fit in place?
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Re: [MBZ] Radiator fun

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Will the new bent radiator even fit in place?
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You can’t disassemble those motors.  Not without destroying something in the 
process.  Don’t ask me how I know.

-D


> On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:48:50 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Swap motors?
> 
> I thought about that, but the fan is pressed onto the motor shaft. Even
> if I did have a press, the pressing operation is not symmetrical -- that
> is it's meant to be pressed on, but not off.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:48:50 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Swap motors?

I thought about that, but the fan is pressed onto the motor shaft. Even
if I did have a press, the pressing operation is not symmetrical -- that
is it's meant to be pressed on, but not off.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Swap motors?

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 13:44:08 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> If you find any of the other actuators leaking let me know. 
> 
> I got the defective fan out and was about to install the fan you sent,
> but found it won't fit -- it's too large in diameter and the holes for
> attaching the fan shroud are in the wrong places. The picture shows the
> fan I removed on the left and the fan sent on the right.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm working on the car today, first to replace the failed auxiliary
>>> fan (for which Kaleb sent a replacement), then to charge the A/C
>>> system (for which Kaleb sent a can of R-12), then to replace the
>>> driver's door actuator (for which Kaleb sent a replacement) and trace
>>> down any locking system leaks, then I don't know what, but I'm sure
>>> I'll find something. :-)
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Re: [MBZ] I own a ML350

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds like you got a pretty sweet deal!

I'm curious what kind of mileage you'll get.
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Re: [MBZ] Consumer reports errors/fraud

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Excluding this group, f course.  We have a waiver of that rule.

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 2:13 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  wrote:

> Look for the recent post that explains that  88 of the next 100 people you
> meet are dumber than a bag full of hammers. That will explain why people
> who rely on CR buy Toyotas.
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-08-19  10:40 AM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Consumer reports errors/fraud
> Yet they sell by the MILLIONS.  Fake news?
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > In one of the articles I quoted, one guy said he pointed out things like
> > broken valves hidden in "routine maintenance" at the toada stealer.  That
> > is part of the bias.  as long as you pay the stealer to keep the pOS
> > running, there are no "serious" problems according to those who report to
> > CR.
> >
> > Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> >> August 18, 2017 at 12:15 PM
> >> I have always been suspicious of CR's endorsement of Toyotas too.
> >> I have owned 3 Toyotas over the years and they were all troublesome.
> >> We had a pickup truck, a 4 Runner and an Avalon.
> >> I am in no hurry to own any more of them.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] kings chariot -- a little spendy but nice

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

I'll put my car up against it any time. Yes mine has 40k more miles but 
it was over

4k cheaper.

Russ W

On Sat,8/19/17 09:56, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s not terribly out of line for that car.

-D



On Aug 19, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/gorgeous-low-mile-bluetec/6267924663.html

-R


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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Boston is an easy ride, half hour or so. Providence is right there if it's 
cheaper. We could provide transport from PVD.
Curt

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  On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes wrote:   HI think I'm off that week. Is 
Boston the choice to fly into? Or, perhaps, drive my w210 cross country. That 
would be an adventure.

Bob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'll be there. Excited to see you're coming!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So who's going?  I'll be there, with my wife and kids, and probably my W108
>> 
>> Gotta figure out where to stay that will be entertaining for them.  (Beach
>> and/or pool)
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 6:30 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nope.  It’s on September 9th.
>>> 
>>> Didn’t you get your flight confirmation?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
> On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Did I miss the announcement?
 When is it?
 
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 13:44:08 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> If you find any of the other actuators leaking let me know. 

I don't know yet, but I do know the right-rear door won't lock by the
vacuum system; I have to push that button down manually.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If you find any of the other actuators leaking let me know. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 00:44:27 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Any news on the transmission problem Craig?
> 
> I called Marc at SUN VALLEY MERCEDES TRANSMISSIONS
> 15468 Cabrito Rd.
> Van Nuys, CA. 91406
> Phone: 818-782-2300
> 
> He said to check the cable to the transmission from the throttle linkage
> (which is what I have been told by members of this list, but haven't had
> time to do yet) by disconnecting it from the linkage and pulling it to
> see if it acted like there was a spring on the other end.
> 
> If there is spring tension, he said, there might be problems with a valve
> in the transmission (he said the name, but I don't remember what it was).
> 
> He did say that manually shifting the transmission would not do damage to
> it. I specifically asked that because Shirley and I are planning to make
> a road trip to Dallas to attend the Great American Trucking Show and
> Austin to visit some friends like last year. We plan on leaving Tuesday
> right after her follow-up appointment with the surgeon who did her total
> hip replacement. So, if I don't have time to fix it correctly before then,
> I can use it like it is. 
> 
> I'm working on the car today, first to replace the failed auxiliary fan
> (for which Kaleb sent a replacement), then to charge the A/C system
> (for which Kaleb sent a can of R-12), then to replace the driver's door
> actuator (for which Kaleb sent a replacement) and trace down any locking
> system leaks, then I don't know what, but I'm sure I'll find
> something. :-)
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Consumer reports errors/fraud

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Look for the recent post that explains that  88 of the next 100 people you meet 
are dumber than a bag full of hammers. That will explain why people who rely on 
CR buy Toyotas.


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-08-19  10:40 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Consumer reports errors/fraud 
Yet they sell by the MILLIONS.  Fake news?

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In one of the articles I quoted, one guy said he pointed out things like
> broken valves hidden in "routine maintenance" at the toada stealer.  That
> is part of the bias.  as long as you pay the stealer to keep the pOS
> running, there are no "serious" problems according to those who report to
> CR.
>
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> August 18, 2017 at 12:15 PM
>> I have always been suspicious of CR's endorsement of Toyotas too.
>> I have owned 3 Toyotas over the years and they were all troublesome.
>> We had a pickup truck, a 4 Runner and an Avalon.
>> I am in no hurry to own any more of them.
>>
>> RB
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 00:44:27 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Any news on the transmission problem Craig?

I called Marc at SUN VALLEY MERCEDES TRANSMISSIONS
 15468 Cabrito Rd.
 Van Nuys, CA. 91406
 Phone: 818-782-2300

He said to check the cable to the transmission from the throttle linkage
(which is what I have been told by members of this list, but haven't had
time to do yet) by disconnecting it from the linkage and pulling it to
see if it acted like there was a spring on the other end.

If there is spring tension, he said, there might be problems with a valve
in the transmission (he said the name, but I don't remember what it was).

He did say that manually shifting the transmission would not do damage to
it. I specifically asked that because Shirley and I are planning to make
a road trip to Dallas to attend the Great American Trucking Show and
Austin to visit some friends like last year. We plan on leaving Tuesday
right after her follow-up appointment with the surgeon who did her total
hip replacement. So, if I don't have time to fix it correctly before then,
I can use it like it is. 

I'm working on the car today, first to replace the failed auxiliary fan
(for which Kaleb sent a replacement), then to charge the A/C system
(for which Kaleb sent a can of R-12), then to replace the driver's door
actuator (for which Kaleb sent a replacement) and trace down any locking
system leaks, then I don't know what, but I'm sure I'll find
something. :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

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On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 13:36:39 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Speaking of HS reunions, next weekend is mine in Ft Wayne Indiana, I'm 
> going to be driving up there then back through Western KY to see my 
> dad.  I don't think there are any listbenzers on the route or I would 
> stop by and mooch something off y'all.

There are list members who are in the northwestern area of Indiana and,
of course, Dan is in Chicago.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Depends on the track of the whatever hurricane is lashing the East Coast.

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Speaking of HS reunions, next weekend is mine in Ft Wayne Indiana, I'm
> going to be driving up there then back through Western KY to see my dad.  I
> don't think there are any listbenzers on the route or I would stop by and
> mooch something off y'all.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 8/19/17 1:16 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> My High school reunion is the next weekend in New York and I'm not about
>> to do that trip two weekends in a row from down here in Fl.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Speaking of HS reunions, next weekend is mine in Ft Wayne Indiana, I'm 
going to be driving up there then back through Western KY to see my 
dad.  I don't think there are any listbenzers on the route or I would 
stop by and mooch something off y'all.


--R


On 8/19/17 1:16 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
My High school reunion is the next weekend in New York and I'm not 
about to do that trip two weekends in a row from down here in Fl. 



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Re: [MBZ] I own a ML350

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

its a 2012 so maybe things got more complex as the builds went on.  
Sounds like you got a much easier job of it.  Report as to how it all 
works out!


--R


On 8/19/17 1:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

What year is your ML? W163 or W164?

My 2003 is just like in the etrailer videos, take out the four little bolts 
that hold the bumper plastic on, pull off the bumper, put it on the cargo floor 
with the left end hanging out because of the antenna wire (easier than 
unhooking the antennae like in the vid), run four big bolts into the factory 
frame holes to hold the hitch on (I ordered the Curt which is just the hitch 
instead of the Draw-tite which also includes a couple of frame reinforcement 
pieces). Now that I've got the bumper plastic loose, I can put a hitch on my ML 
in 5 minutes and put the bumper back on in five more, unless I have to notch 
the bumper to clear the hitch.
I also ordered the powered trailer light box from Curt, same part number used 
in the etrailer video. That reminds me, I'll have to post a pic of what the 
Action Auto baboons did to the battery terminals on this thing.
Rather than go back in the store for a box wrench, they just twisted the 
terminals until they could get their battery pliers on the nuts, did that to 
both terminals. If the owner witnessed that, it would be grounds for 
justifiably whacking the jerk in the back of the head with his battery pliers 
before throwing them across the street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtq8gvv8jU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTj1GjgeEMY

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Isn't it better to spend 9 days in New England than in Florida this time of 
year?
Mitch. 
> On August 19, 2017 at 1:16 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> It sure would be. Too bad I can't go. My High school reunion is 
> the next weekend in New York and I'm not about to do that trip 
> two weekends in a row from down here in Fl.
> 
> Have fun!
> MG

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[MG via Mercedes]

It sure would be. Too bad I can't go. My High school reunion is 
the next weekend in New York and I'm not about to do that trip 
two weekends in a row from down here in Fl.


Have fun!
MG

Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

HI think I'm off that week. Is Boston the choice to fly into? Or, 
perhaps, drive my w210 cross country. That would be an adventure.

Bob

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  wrote:

I'll be there. Excited to see you're coming!

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 wrote:

So who's going?  I'll be there, with my wife and kids, and probably my W108

Gotta figure out where to stay that will be entertaining for them.  (Beach
and/or pool)

Jaime


On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 6:30 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Nope.  It’s on September 9th.

Didn’t you get your flight confirmation?

-D



On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Did I miss the announcement?
When is it?

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Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes SLR

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> On August 19, 2017 at 12:24 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I mean it is just hail damage, not like it got smashed and wrecked.  
> That is stupid.

Some hail cars can be barely damaged, some can look like they were vandalized 
with a hammer. Most of the Colorado cars and all of the Texas cars (softball 
sized/Texas sized hail and 60-90mph winds on June 14)

I thought about buying a 89kmi 2011 Hail Charger yesterday. 
Beautiful car, I didn't even notice the hail when I casually walked around it 
Thursday wondering what the damage was. Faint dents in hood and trunk lid when 
I looked a little closer yesterday, I'd be perfectly happy to drive it just 
like it is for the rest of its life. IIRC it went for $3300 plus fees. I can 
just imagine filing the paperwork for the rebuilt title. 
Repairs performed: None, and none needed. (I wonder if that would generate a 
letter from the state instead of a roadworthy title)
https://www.copart.com/lot/35456337

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Re: [MBZ] I own a ML350

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

What year is your ML? W163 or W164?

My 2003 is just like in the etrailer videos, take out the four little bolts 
that hold the bumper plastic on, pull off the bumper, put it on the cargo floor 
with the left end hanging out because of the antenna wire (easier than 
unhooking the antennae like in the vid), run four big bolts into the factory 
frame holes to hold the hitch on (I ordered the Curt which is just the hitch 
instead of the Draw-tite which also includes a couple of frame reinforcement 
pieces). Now that I've got the bumper plastic loose, I can put a hitch on my ML 
in 5 minutes and put the bumper back on in five more, unless I have to notch 
the bumper to clear the hitch. 
I also ordered the powered trailer light box from Curt, same part number used 
in the etrailer video. That reminds me, I'll have to post a pic of what the 
Action Auto baboons did to the battery terminals on this thing. 
Rather than go back in the store for a box wrench, they just twisted the 
terminals until they could get their battery pliers on the nuts, did that to 
both terminals. If the owner witnessed that, it would be grounds for 
justifiably whacking the jerk in the back of the head with his battery pliers 
before throwing them across the street. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtq8gvv8jU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTj1GjgeEMY

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ll let Curt respond in detail, but the basics are Saturday, September 9th 
starting at 10:00(?) at Goddard Memorial State Park in Warwick, RI.

http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html

-D
 
> On Aug 19, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What are the Chowdah Q details again? I can't find the email. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I started to undertake this process on my own until I realized my formerly 
substantial supply of wet sanding paper was somehow nowhere near what I 
recalled it being.

That said, it’s not a terribly difficult job to do if you had all the right 
grits of paper available.  I had a couple of gaps in grits, so when I took on 
the left front headlight a week or two ago I had to skip some grits which 
yielded a less than satisfactory (to me) result.

Hence the reasoning for buying the 3M kit.  For $13 I figured I couldn’t go 
wrong.

-D


> On Aug 19, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 11:15:37 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Second thing on the list was to polish the headlights, which were
>> getting a little cloudy.
>> 
>> Got this kit from 3M via Amazonia:
>> 
>> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AIZ5HY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>> 
>> They make about four different versions of this kit ranging from $12 up
>> to over $30.  The difference seems to be whether or not they include the
>> masking tape and a sealant in the high end one.  I’ve got all sorts of 3M
>> blue painter’s tape around the house, so I didn’t need any of that.
>>  
>> Pretty straightforward, took me about an hour from start to finish.
>> Wasn’t difficult at all and they provide plenty of materials.
> 
> I bought a 3M kit from O'Reilly when it was on sale to do the left
> headlight on our Peterbilt 386. There were sufficient amount of materials
> to do the left headlight (which is MUCH larger than an automobile
> headlight).
> 
> But after I did the left headlight, the right one, which looked great
> before, didn't look so good. I started working on it but ran out of
> sandpaper.
> 
> I was able to get hook-and-loop sandpaper of sufficiently high grit only
> at the NAPA Paint Store in Albuquerque -- the local FLAPS didn't have
> hook-and-loop sandpaper, and the local hardware stores only had grit 320
> and coarser.
> 
> 
>> When I was done I wiped the lenses down with IPA (not the beer kind) and
>> put a couple of coats of Collinite #845 Insulator wax on them to protect
>> the lenses.
> 
> The kit I bought came with the sealant, but I haven't put it on yet
> because I'm intending to go back and touch up the left headlight and
> complete the right headlight.
> 
> 
>> Some observations:
>> 
>> Cover everything.  The spatter from the compounding step will get all
>> over everything.
> 
> I have not had problems with that, but covering is a good idea, anyway.
> 
> 
>> Careful around the edges.  The sanding disks can easily cut through your
>> masking tape if you’re not careful, gouging your paint.  I was careful
>> *and* I did a couple layers of tape around the edges, as tape is cheap.
> 
> Yes, indeed!
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 11:15:37 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Second thing on the list was to polish the headlights, which were
> getting a little cloudy.
> 
> Got this kit from 3M via Amazonia:
> 
> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AIZ5HY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> 
> They make about four different versions of this kit ranging from $12 up
> to over $30.  The difference seems to be whether or not they include the
> masking tape and a sealant in the high end one.  I’ve got all sorts of 3M
> blue painter’s tape around the house, so I didn’t need any of that.
>   
> Pretty straightforward, took me about an hour from start to finish.
> Wasn’t difficult at all and they provide plenty of materials.

I bought a 3M kit from O'Reilly when it was on sale to do the left
headlight on our Peterbilt 386. There were sufficient amount of materials
to do the left headlight (which is MUCH larger than an automobile
headlight).

But after I did the left headlight, the right one, which looked great
before, didn't look so good. I started working on it but ran out of
sandpaper.

I was able to get hook-and-loop sandpaper of sufficiently high grit only
at the NAPA Paint Store in Albuquerque -- the local FLAPS didn't have
hook-and-loop sandpaper, and the local hardware stores only had grit 320
and coarser.


> When I was done I wiped the lenses down with IPA (not the beer kind) and
> put a couple of coats of Collinite #845 Insulator wax on them to protect
> the lenses.

The kit I bought came with the sealant, but I haven't put it on yet
because I'm intending to go back and touch up the left headlight and
complete the right headlight.


> Some observations:
> 
> Cover everything.  The spatter from the compounding step will get all
> over everything.

I have not had problems with that, but covering is a good idea, anyway.


> Careful around the edges.  The sanding disks can easily cut through your
> masking tape if you’re not careful, gouging your paint.  I was careful
> *and* I did a couple layers of tape around the edges, as tape is cheap.

Yes, indeed!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Still smoking bath salts and trying to sell grandpa's SD

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I'll bid $500 for the car. as is...

$11,000 ... 32 yr old car. setting and not attended Pass the
meth...

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $11k for an admittedly flawed 300SD?  I think not.
>
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-mercedes-300-sd
> > -turbo/6268314169.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes SLR

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I mean it is just hail damage, not like it got smashed and wrecked.  
That is stupid.


--R


On 8/19/17 12:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Not in Michigan, but maybe someplace...
My salvage guy won't even buy it for me, says it's illegal to let it out of his 
yard except in tiny pieces.

So your first problem is finding somebody that Copart will allow to bid on it 
who is willing to bid on it for you.

Alabama used to be a famous haven for making new titles for cars, but I think 
they're starting to do something about that...

Mitch.


On August 19, 2017 at 12:11 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:


that is sad.  I wonder if it could get titled in some other state

--R


On 8/19/17 11:22 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

SL500R, read it and weep:
"CO - BILL OF SALE-PARTS ONLY" - This means it can only be sold to a licensed 
salvage yard or recycling facility and can never be titled for road use, because the 
extreme cost to repair means nobody would ever make it safe again for the public roads...

https://www.copart.com/lot/36444177

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Re: [MBZ] I own a ML350

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You have to be careful on the MLs putting on a tow hitch if you are 
actually going to tow something.  Hooking into the lights will cause all 
sorts of mayhem with the light nanny, and the ABS and stability nannies 
will go bonkers pulling a load.  To actually retrofit a proper tow 
system costs about $2k, I guess less if you do it yourself if you can 
source the proper bits.  There are some kits with a new nanny to fool 
the lights that aren't too much, but the actual towing control upgrade 
is a spendy piece of kit.


I put a tow hitch on mama's ML, just to use for a bike rack.  I tried to 
get the stealer to do it when we bought it CPO and he quoted $2k+, 
didn't even want to think about throwing it in on the deal (though I did 
get roof rack crossbars out of him).  I looked into it and found that 
all the bits were not cheap, so the $2k was fairly reasonable with some 
labor for the hitch install and hooking in the new nannies upgrades.  
They of course would not just do the hitch but would have to do the full 
package.  The hitch took me maybe 3-4 hours, you have to take off and 
cut into a thin aluminum heat shield (dremel with cutting wheels) to 
allow the new hitch, and R&R a bunch of other stuff.  It was not hard, 
just kinda time consuming.  I ordered it from etrailer I think, they 
have pretty good prices and instructions with their kits.


--R


On 8/19/17 11:33 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On August 18, 2017 at 8:04 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:




On August 18, 2017 at 7:51 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
No accidents reported to CARFAX
No other damage reported to CARFAX


What a relief. I was afraid I might have bought a damaged car.
Mitch.

I suppose I should write up a "today's fun" tonight, but since it was raining on and off 
while I was at the yard inspecting cars this week, I totally missed out on the fact that my new ML 
had deer hair embedded in the remains of the headlight. And I never bothered to read the inventory 
sticker on the windshield until I took it off this AM, it says "State Farm Insurance - Other 
Comprehensive".
When I saw "Other Comprehensive", the dim light bulb in my brain finally lit 
up. If there was no police report, and the insurance claim isn't reported to carfax 
because no 'collision' was involved, it's an accident free car still.
It looks like it'll be a good driver/tow rig after I get the headlight and 
hitch installed Monday. The odo says 188k. The oil change sticker says to come 
back at 199k and they didn't fill in the date. Oil looks like it came out of 
the bottle the day before the deer hit.
Radiator will be here today, should I drive 100 miles round trip to the nearest 
place that's open Saturday and has a used AC Condenser?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] kings chariot -- a little spendy but nice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Although black is a turn off the interior is swell.

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s not terribly out of line for that car.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Aug 19, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/gorgeous-low-mile-
> bluetec/6267924663.html
> >
> > -R
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Still smoking bath salts and trying to sell grandpa's SD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

$11k for an admittedly flawed 300SD?  I think not.

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-mercedes-300-sd
> -turbo/6268314169.html
>
> --R
>
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Re: [MBZ] Pahtz, 97 Mercedes E300 diesel parts car

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If the interior is decent it's a GREAT deal.

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Seems like a good deal
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 8/18/17 7:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Darn I could sure use that.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not!
>>>
>>> etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fred Moir.
>>> Lynn MA.
>>> Diesel preferred.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: nore...@craigslist.org 
>>> Sent: 18 August 2017 18:29
>>> To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
>>> Subject: 97 Mercedes E300 diesel parts car
>>>
>>>
>>> fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>>
>>> 
>>> 97 Mercedes E300 diesel parts car
>>>
>>> http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/6269653464.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes SLR

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Not in Michigan, but maybe someplace... 
My salvage guy won't even buy it for me, says it's illegal to let it out of his 
yard except in tiny pieces.

So your first problem is finding somebody that Copart will allow to bid on it 
who is willing to bid on it for you.  

Alabama used to be a famous haven for making new titles for cars, but I think 
they're starting to do something about that...

Mitch. 

> On August 19, 2017 at 12:11 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> that is sad.  I wonder if it could get titled in some other state
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 8/19/17 11:22 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> > SL500R, read it and weep:
> > "CO - BILL OF SALE-PARTS ONLY" - This means it can only be sold to a 
> > licensed salvage yard or recycling facility and can never be titled for 
> > road use, because the extreme cost to repair means nobody would ever make 
> > it safe again for the public roads...
> >
> > https://www.copart.com/lot/36444177
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Re: [MBZ] The top news story on the 10pm news tonight

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Best news story of 2017.

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I only carry liability. It shouldn't be too big of a deal to replace.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 19, 2017, at 5:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That’s pretty damned funny.
> >
> > “You should report it to the automaker.”
> >
> > Yeah.  Like MBUSA (or any other manufacturer, for that matter) is going
> to care about a car that’s 20 years old and damaged from a road hazard.
> >
> > Did you report it to your insurer?  I gotta believe there’s a way that
> cold be covered under insurance somehow.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:03 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On August 19, 2017 at 12:45 AM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BWAH-HAW-HAW!  Video worked fine for me.
> >>>
> >>
> >> QUOTES PAGE!
> >>
> >> Striplin said she's got a way with cars.
> >>
> >> "If I get in the car I've been known to be the death of that vehicle,"
> Striplin said.
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

What are the Chowdah Q details again? I can't find the email. 

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> PVD can be pricey to fly into on the majors.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Or PVD
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes SLR

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

that is sad.  I wonder if it could get titled in some other state

--R


On 8/19/17 11:22 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

SL500R, read it and weep:
"CO - BILL OF SALE-PARTS ONLY" - This means it can only be sold to a licensed 
salvage yard or recycling facility and can never be titled for road use, because the 
extreme cost to repair means nobody would ever make it safe again for the public roads...

https://www.copart.com/lot/36444177

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[MBZ] ML Radiator fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

There is a plastic tie, speared through the middle of the condenser, radiator, 
and a big rubber donut pad between the two coolers. 
Is that factory? It looks like one of the mounting gizmos that comes with a 
stupid aftermarket transmission cooler. 

Any way to remove it non-destructively?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Consumer reports errors/fraud

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yet they sell by the MILLIONS.  Fake news?

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In one of the articles I quoted, one guy said he pointed out things like
> broken valves hidden in "routine maintenance" at the toada stealer.  That
> is part of the bias.  as long as you pay the stealer to keep the pOS
> running, there are no "serious" problems according to those who report to
> CR.
>
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> August 18, 2017 at 12:15 PM
>> I have always been suspicious of CR's endorsement of Toyotas too.
>> I have owned 3 Toyotas over the years and they were all troublesome.
>> We had a pickup truck, a 4 Runner and an Avalon.
>> I am in no hurry to own any more of them.
>>
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] I own a ML350

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> On August 18, 2017 at 8:04 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On August 18, 2017 at 7:51 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
> >  wrote:
> 
> > No accidents reported to CARFAX
> > No other damage reported to CARFAX
> 
> 
> What a relief. I was afraid I might have bought a damaged car. 
> Mitch.

I suppose I should write up a "today's fun" tonight, but since it was raining 
on and off while I was at the yard inspecting cars this week, I totally missed 
out on the fact that my new ML had deer hair embedded in the remains of the 
headlight. And I never bothered to read the inventory sticker on the windshield 
until I took it off this AM, it says "State Farm Insurance - Other 
Comprehensive".
When I saw "Other Comprehensive", the dim light bulb in my brain finally lit 
up. If there was no police report, and the insurance claim isn't reported to 
carfax because no 'collision' was involved, it's an accident free car still. 
It looks like it'll be a good driver/tow rig after I get the headlight and 
hitch installed Monday. The odo says 188k. The oil change sticker says to come 
back at 199k and they didn't fill in the date. Oil looks like it came out of 
the bottle the day before the deer hit. 
Radiator will be here today, should I drive 100 miles round trip to the nearest 
place that's open Saturday and has a used AC Condenser?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes SLR

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

SL500R, read it and weep:
"CO - BILL OF SALE-PARTS ONLY" - This means it can only be sold to a licensed 
salvage yard or recycling facility and can never be titled for road use, 
because the extreme cost to repair means nobody would ever make it safe again 
for the public roads...

https://www.copart.com/lot/36444177

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[MBZ] Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Low key this weekend, as I have to sit for a GIAC certification test on Monday 
so I need some study time…more alphabet soup!

I was going to drain and refill the transmission as well as replace the filter, 
but my FLAPS is only carrying the high mileage Valvoline MaxLife ATF, which is 
not what I wanted. Wally World has the regular kind but not in my store, so I 
ordered two gallons of it for $17/each ($8 less than what FLAPS wants for it) 
but it won’t be here until Thursday.

Second thing on the list was to polish the headlights, which were getting a 
little cloudy.

From what I’ve seen during my search for a W210, the first gen cars seem to 
have a lot worse headlight lens clouding than the second gen models.  Maybe 
it’s just due to the age, but I rarely saw a second gen car with cloudy 
headlights like I did first gen.  Anyway, mine weren’t bad, but I could see 
where they were starting to cloud around the edges so I figured I would be 
proactive.

Got this kit from 3M via Amazonia:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AIZ5HY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They make about four different versions of this kit ranging from $12 up to over 
$30.  The difference seems to be whether or not they include the masking tape 
and a sealant in the high end one.  I’ve got all sorts of 3M blue painter’s 
tape around the house, so I didn’t need any of that.

Masked the heck out of the headlights and raised the hood.  Followed the 
instructions using a corded drill, as there’s no way a rechargeable would ever 
hold up through this.

Pretty straightforward, took me about an hour from start to finish.  Wasn’t 
difficult at all and they provide plenty of materials.  When I was done I wiped 
the lenses down with IPA (not the beer kind) and put a couple of coats of 
Collinite #845 Insulator wax on them to protect the lenses.

Some observations:

Cover everything.  The spatter from the compounding step will get all over 
everything.

Careful around the edges.  The sanding disks can easily cut through your 
masking tape if you’re not careful, gouging your paint.  I was careful *and* I 
did a couple layers of tape around the edges, as tape is cheap.

After I was done with the headlight lenses I tried programming the integrated 
remote in the rear view mirror.  I wasn’t sure if it would do the rolling code 
stuff that my garage door opener does due to its age.  It did!  Huzzah!

So now to clean up and hit the books.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

PVD can be pricey to fly into on the majors.

-D


> On Aug 19, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or PVD
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Or PVD

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On 8/19/17 10:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

 From your place it’s probably cheapest to fly into Manchester, NH.  It’s a 
second tier airport that Southwest uses to service the Boston area and it’s 
really nice and easy to get around in.  Far more enjoyable than Logan.

-D



On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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HI think I'm off that week. Is Boston the choice to fly into? Or, 
perhaps, drive my w210 cross country. That would be an adventure.

Bob

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Re: [MBZ] kings chariot -- a little spendy but nice

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s not terribly out of line for that car.

-D


> On Aug 19, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

From your place it’s probably cheapest to fly into Manchester, NH.  It’s a 
second tier airport that Southwest uses to service the Boston area and it’s 
really nice and easy to get around in.  Far more enjoyable than Logan.

-D


> On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> HI think I'm off that week. Is Boston the choice to fly into? Or, 
> perhaps, drive my w210 cross country. That would be an adventure.
> 
> Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] kings chariot -- a little spendy but nice

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/gorgeous-low-mile-bluetec/6267924663.html

-R


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[MBZ] Still smoking bath salts and trying to sell grandpa's SD

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-mercedes-300-sd-turbo/6268314169.html

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[MBZ] 1982 Mercedes SLR

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-slr/6269855652.html

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Re: [MBZ] Pahtz, 97 Mercedes E300 diesel parts car

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Seems like a good deal

--R


On 8/18/17 7:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Darn I could sure use that.

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On Aug 18, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes  
wrote:

Not!

etc.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: nore...@craigslist.org 
Sent: 18 August 2017 18:29
To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: 97 Mercedes E300 diesel parts car


fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:


97 Mercedes E300 diesel parts car

http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/6269653464.html
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

HI think I'm off that week. Is Boston the choice to fly into? Or, 
perhaps, drive my w210 cross country. That would be an adventure.

Bob

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> On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> I'll be there. Excited to see you're coming!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So who's going?  I'll be there, with my wife and kids, and probably my W108
>> 
>> Gotta figure out where to stay that will be entertaining for them.  (Beach
>> and/or pool)
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 6:30 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nope.  It’s on September 9th.
>>> 
>>> Didn’t you get your flight confirmation?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
> On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Did I miss the announcement?
 When is it?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

I'll be there. Excited to see you're coming!

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> On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> 
> So who's going?  I'll be there, with my wife and kids, and probably my W108
> 
> Gotta figure out where to stay that will be entertaining for them.  (Beach
> and/or pool)
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 6:30 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Nope.  It’s on September 9th.
>> 
>> Didn’t you get your flight confirmation?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> Did I miss the announcement?
>>> When is it?
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Re: [MBZ] The top news story on the 10pm news tonight

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I only carry liability. It shouldn't be too big of a deal to replace.

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> On Aug 19, 2017, at 5:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> That’s pretty damned funny.
> 
> “You should report it to the automaker.”
> 
> Yeah.  Like MBUSA (or any other manufacturer, for that matter) is going to 
> care about a car that’s 20 years old and damaged from a road hazard.
> 
> Did you report it to your insurer?  I gotta believe there’s a way that cold 
> be covered under insurance somehow.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:03 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On August 19, 2017 at 12:45 AM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BWAH-HAW-HAW!  Video worked fine for me.
>>> 
>> 
>> QUOTES PAGE!
>> 
>> Striplin said she's got a way with cars.
>> 
>> "If I get in the car I've been known to be the death of that vehicle," 
>> Striplin said.
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm cooking so I better be there. Gotta go to LA the day after.
Need to do brakes on the Golf this week to spruce it up for the trip. Maybe 
wash and wax too.
Curt

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my wife and kids, and probably my W108

Gotta figure out where to stay that will be entertaining for them.  (Beach
and/or pool)

Jaime


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> Nope.  It’s on September 9th.
>
> Didn’t you get your flight confirmation?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Aug 19, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] The top news story on the 10pm news tonight

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Must have been a slow news day

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> On Aug 18, 2017, at 11:45 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> BWAH-HAW-HAW!  Video worked fine for me.
> 
> -MMM-
> 
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>> Not sure why the video is not up
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sherry and I will be there, driving down from Boston.

-D

> On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> So who's going?  I'll be there, with my wife and kids, and probably my W108
> 
> Gotta figure out where to stay that will be entertaining for them.  (Beach
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

So who's going?  I'll be there, with my wife and kids, and probably my W108

Gotta figure out where to stay that will be entertaining for them.  (Beach
and/or pool)

Jaime


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> Nope.  It’s on September 9th.
>
> Didn’t you get your flight confirmation?
>
> -D
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] The top news story on the 10pm news tonight

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s pretty damned funny.

“You should report it to the automaker.”

Yeah.  Like MBUSA (or any other manufacturer, for that matter) is going to care 
about a car that’s 20 years old and damaged from a road hazard.

Did you report it to your insurer?  I gotta believe there’s a way that cold be 
covered under insurance somehow.

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> 
>> On August 19, 2017 at 12:45 AM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
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>> 
>> BWAH-HAW-HAW!  Video worked fine for me.
>> 
> 
> QUOTES PAGE!
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

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Nope.  It’s on September 9th.

Didn’t you get your flight confirmation?

-D


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[MBZ] Chowdah Q 10

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Did I miss the announcement?
When is it?

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Re: [MBZ] The top news story on the 10pm news tonight

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> On August 19, 2017 at 12:45 AM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> BWAH-HAW-HAW!  Video worked fine for me.
> 

QUOTES PAGE!

Striplin said she's got a way with cars.

"If I get in the car I've been known to be the death of that vehicle," Striplin 
said.

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