Re: [MBZ] Secret Message For Tin Man

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I think there is just one. Where you and Deneil and I went. 

Bob R

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I saw a picture of Gene and Jude's flooded on the boob tube, but they didn't 
> say WHERE it was.  Is there more than one?
> 
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> October 14, 2017 at 8:58 PM
>> I wonder if Gene and Judes in flooded yet?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message For Tin Man

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I saw a picture of Gene and Jude's flooded on the boob tube, but they 
didn't say WHERE it was.  Is there more than one?



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 8:58 PM
I wonder if Gene and Judes in flooded yet?

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Sehr Gut!+1


fmiser via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 8:01 PM
Short summary, based on the research and experience of me and
my family. It does not fit what the medical industry
currently touts.

First - eliminate processed sugars. Cane sugar, corn syrup,
high fructose corn syrup, etc. will all mess up the bodies
ability to take care of itself, warp mineral balance and
distort appetite. I think it was Rich that said "sugar should
be classified as a drug". I agree.

Next try to eliminate all highly processed "food", like white
flour, white rice, etc. As much as possible, eat the entire
fruit/grain. Eat an orange rather than drink orange juice.
We have found that whole ground dates (chucks coated in oat
flour to keep it from becoming one big lump) works well as a
sweetener in a lot of baking. Avoid the "fake" sweeteners.
All the ones I've researched are nasty.

Quite likely, that will take care of a lot of divers stuff -
possibly even sleep issues. If that isn't enough to get your
weight where you want it, the next step is to separate the
eating of starch and fats/oils. THM (Trim Healthy Mama) has
popularized this technique. No need to count carbs, limit
service sizes, etc - just keep eat the starch and the
fats/oils at least 4 hours apart.

And drink water. It's really hard to drink too much.

Oh, and get sea salt with lots of trace minerals. Then use as
much as your tongue wants.

There will be a few weeks of sugar withdrawal, but after that it's
not hard - unless you try to eat food made someplace other than
your own kitchen. :)

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Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 1:16 PM
Can't have tater salad, too many carbs.

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Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM
Diet anything can't be good for you. Ice tea in large quantities is 
why you've lost weight, it's just water you've let go as tea is a 
dieuretic. Drink water, it's all you really need. Pack your own lunch, 
fast food is loaded with salt and expensive. Ranch is just sugar...

Curt

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On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote: Well I hear you will fell like 
crap for a few days but after it passes you will have more energy.


My problem is I'm on the go all day so I have to find things at fast 
food places to eat. Yesterday it was Arby's classic with no but and 
just a touch of Arby's sauce with a side salad. That was 11 carbs. 
Today it was a McDonald quarter pounder with cheese with no bun or 
Catsup with a side salad. I can have ranch but their ranch had 11 
carbs as opposed to most other ranch that has 1-2. So that meal ended 
up being 20 carbs. Dinner will be grilled chicken breast and green 
beans with probably a hard boiled egg and maybe a couple is slices of 
cheese. Should keep me under 30 which is well under my goal.


I have been sticking with unsweetened tea but am considering trying 
diet soda. I have heard mixed reviews on it. Some say it's fine to 
drink with this sort of diet, others say it can slow down things even 
though it has no calories or carbs. I may try it and see how it goes. 
I do know several years ago I pretty much cut out all sugar and drank 
diet soda and I lost weight just doing that.


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Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 13, 2017 at 6:45 PM
Well I hear you will fell like crap for a few days but after it passes 
you will have more energy.


My problem is I'm on the go all day so I have to find things at fast 
food places to eat. Yesterday it was Arby's classic with no but and 
just a touch of Arby's sauce with a side salad. That was 11 carbs. 
Today it was a McDonald quarter pounder with cheese with no bun or 
Catsup with a side salad. I can have ranch but their ranch had 11 
carbs as opposed to most other ranch that has 1-2. So that meal ended 
up being 20 carbs. Dinner will be grilled chicken breast and green 

Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Paleo is very effective. It got me from 300lbs to 198lbs...well, paleo plus 
CrossFit. 
Sadly, as I went back to eating whatever and drinking booze a couple of times a 
week, I put 40ish back on. 
It gets harder the older you get and what once worked is not quite are 
effective. 

Bob R

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just watched this.  It’s lengthy, but well done.
> 
> Now trying to figure out how to get as much high fructose corn syrup out of 
> my diet as possible without going full on paleo.
> 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Grant wrote:
>>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
>>> and loads of it.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is not too hard if you cook your own food from raw fruit, veg, dairy 
and meat; and avoid soda, and are careful about store bought juices.  
Just read the labels.
I don't know why, but HFCS can your guts inside out.  I wonder if it is 
the Bt and other disease resistant traits, GMO or other miracles of 
modern corn, soy, canola and other grain production.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 7:48 PM
Just watched this. It’s lengthy, but well done.

Now trying to figure out how to get as much high fructose corn syrup 
out of my diet as possible without going full on paleo.



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Re: [MBZ] Fiber

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Don't worry so much about carbs.  There are simple carbohydrates, like 
sugar and glucose.  Those go quickly into the blood.  You want to reduce 
those.  Complex carbohydrates take much longer to digest.  Eat fruit and 
veg and meat.  You can lo se weight eating spuds.

Total calorie intake and the quality of the food is what is important.

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 7:42 PM
So one thing that has come to my attention is it seems that when 
cutting carbs drastically it seems that the fiber is also low, which 
can lead to a whole new set of problems such as getting plugged up. 
Got to figure out some things I can eat for fiber that do not have too 
many carbs.




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[MBZ] Secret Message For Tin Man

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I wonder if Gene and Judes in flooded yet?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fiber

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Yep

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 8:31 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Vegetables have plenty of fiber. 
> Plenty. 
> I should post a report on Banned of what all those vegetables can do
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fiber

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Cabbage does real well in a slight brine when left alone for a few days ;)
-Curt
 

On Saturday, October 14, 2017, 9:02:53 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Cabbage, celery, lettuce, carrot, nuts are pretty good for fiber.  Just do not 
decorate them with more than some lemon/lime juices and s dash of olive oil.

clay

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So one thing that has come to my attention is it seems that when cutting 
> carbs drastically it seems that the fiber is also low, which can lead to a 
> whole new set of problems such as getting plugged up. Got to figure out some 
> things I can eat for fiber that do not have too many carbs. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fiber

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Green things...
-Curt
 

On Saturday, October 14, 2017, 8:44:46 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 So one thing that has come to my attention is it seems that when cutting carbs 
drastically it seems that the fiber is also low, which can lead to a whole new 
set of problems such as getting plugged up. Got to figure out some things I can 
eat for fiber that do not have too many carbs. 

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Re: [MBZ] Fiber

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Vegetables have plenty of fiber. 
Plenty. 
I should post a report on Banned of what all those vegetables can do

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fiber

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Cabbage, celery, lettuce, carrot, nuts are pretty good for fiber.  Just do not 
decorate them with more than some lemon/lime juices and s dash of olive oil.

clay

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So one thing that has come to my attention is it seems that when cutting 
> carbs drastically it seems that the fiber is also low, which can lead to a 
> whole new set of problems such as getting plugged up. Got to figure out some 
> things I can eat for fiber that do not have too many carbs. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[fmiser via Mercedes]

Short summary, based on the research and experience of me and
my family.  It does not fit what the medical industry
currently touts.

First - eliminate processed sugars. Cane sugar, corn syrup,
high fructose corn syrup, etc. will all mess up the bodies
ability to take care of itself, warp mineral balance and
distort appetite.  I think it was Rich that said "sugar should
be classified as a drug".  I agree.

Next try to eliminate all highly processed "food", like white
flour, white rice, etc.  As much as possible, eat the entire
fruit/grain.  Eat an orange rather than drink orange juice.
We have found that whole ground dates (chucks coated in oat
flour to keep it from becoming one big lump) works well as a
sweetener in a lot of baking.  Avoid the "fake" sweeteners.
All the ones I've researched are nasty.

Quite likely, that will take care of a lot of divers stuff -
possibly even sleep issues.  If that isn't enough to get your
weight where you want it, the next step is to separate the
eating of starch and fats/oils.  THM (Trim Healthy Mama) has
popularized this technique.  No need to count carbs, limit
service sizes, etc - just keep eat the starch and the
fats/oils at least 4 hours apart.

And drink water.  It's really hard to drink too much.

Oh, and get sea salt with lots of trace minerals.  Then use as
much as your tongue wants.

There will be a few weeks of sugar withdrawal, but after that it's
not hard - unless you try to eat food made someplace other than
your own kitchen. :)

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Re: [MBZ] Fiber

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Celery, carrots, prunes . . .

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So one thing that has come to my attention is it seems that when cutting
> carbs drastically it seems that the fiber is also low, which can lead to a
> whole new set of problems such as getting plugged up. Got to figure out
> some things I can eat for fiber that do not have too many carbs.
>
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just watched this.  It’s lengthy, but well done.

Now trying to figure out how to get as much high fructose corn syrup out of my 
diet as possible without going full on paleo.


-D


> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Grant wrote:
>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
>> and loads of it.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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Re: [MBZ] Fiber

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Metamucil?
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On October 14, 2017 8:42:16 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>So one thing that has come to my attention is it seems that when
>cutting carbs drastically it seems that the fiber is also low, which
>can lead to a whole new set of problems such as getting plugged up. Got
>to figure out some things I can eat for fiber that do not have too many
>carbs. 
>
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Re: [MBZ] tars

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> Anyone had experience with this size tars lasting long enough to
> wear out?

I know you don't like 'em, but I have had better service with
Yokohama than any other tire - including Continental and
Michelin.  14" on my 123s, 15" and 16" on my pickups.

My 14" General Altimax RT (extra load) have done quite
well.  I'm wearing out my second set.

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[MBZ] Fiber

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So one thing that has come to my attention is it seems that when cutting carbs 
drastically it seems that the fiber is also low, which can lead to a whole new 
set of problems such as getting plugged up. Got to figure out some things I can 
eat for fiber that do not have too many carbs. 

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Re: [MBZ] tars

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Never!


OK Don via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 2:58 PM
Do you rotate from side to side? The only times I've had belts slip is 
when

they were rotated to the other side.

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Re: [MBZ] tars

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

For my 124 cars, I just bought six Kuhmo tires, from TireRack and Amazon.  I 
think Amazon won for their price for two tires with free Prime shipping, but 
TireRack won with a rebate on four tires.

I don't remember the model now, but it had pretty good test results on TireRack.
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
> and loads of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] tars

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Do you rotate from side to side? The only times I've had belts slip is when
they were rotated to the other side.

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anyone heard of or used simpletire.com?
>
> They claim to be an aggregator of local tar shops.  They showed 225 65 R16
> nokian entyre2.0 for $98 ea shipped.   However their website does not show
> this size/price.   I'll call em on Monday.
>
> I'd guess the nokian might not slip belts.  Every US made tire I have had
> except the high end badyears that came on the quantum 30 yrs ago have
> slipped belts.  Same for frog built michelins.
>
> None of the european built continentals or other brands ever slipped a
> belt.All from eurotire, when they were a mail order discounter.  They
> will still ship, but are NOT near cheap.
>
> The Blizzaks never slipped a belt  (out of 10 tires, 2 sets of 4 and one
> pair)
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Pepsi uses artificial sweeteners which, in me, produce an almost instant
throbbing headache of the near migraine quality.. I won't touch it.

All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
and loads of it. The health side effects of ingesting artificial sweetener
are manifold, by every report I read.. bad bad ju ju... poison stuff that
throws the body way off balance..

As my Grandmother [mother of 12 children] always said.. "You are what you
eat".
Read the labels on the stuff being sold as food these days and ask .. "Do I
want to be this?"

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Interesting that people mention Pepsi by name.
> I can drink 1000 calories of Dr Pepper a day with no ill effects aside
> from weight gain, but if I drink a 12pk of Pepsi in a week my GERD comes
> back every time.
> No meaningful advice for Andrew, if Nexium won't solve it, it's beyond my
> experience.
>
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

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Interesting that people mention Pepsi by name. 
I can drink 1000 calories of Dr Pepper a day with no ill effects aside from 
weight gain, but if I drink a 12pk of Pepsi in a week my GERD comes back every 
time. 
No meaningful advice for Andrew, if Nexium won't solve it, it's beyond my 
experience. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Can't have tater salad, too many carbs.

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> When I was on the road, whenever I was near a grocery store, I picked up a 
> lot of meals at the meat or deli counter.  Sliced roast beef, or turkey, etc 
> with some tater salad makes a good meal or two.
> 
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> October 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM
>> Diet anything can't be good for you. Ice tea in large quantities is why 
>> you've lost weight, it's just water you've let go as tea is a dieuretic. 
>> Drink water, it's all you really need. Pack your own lunch, fast food is 
>> loaded with salt and expensive. Ranch is just sugar...
>> Curt
> 
> Low sugar varieties of prepared foods are generally high in fat.
> Low fat varieties of prepared foods are generally high in sugar, or worse, 
> HFCS.
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[MBZ] tars

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Anyone heard of or used simpletire.com?

They claim to be an aggregator of local tar shops.  They showed 225 65 
R16 nokian entyre2.0 for $98 ea shipped.   However their website does 
not show this size/price.   I'll call em on Monday.


I'd guess the nokian might not slip belts.  Every US made tire I have 
had except the high end badyears that came on the quantum 30 yrs ago 
have slipped belts.  Same for frog built michelins.


None of the european built continentals or other brands ever slipped a 
belt.All from eurotire, when they were a mail order discounter.  
They will still ship, but are NOT near cheap.


The Blizzaks never slipped a belt  (out of 10 tires, 2 sets of 4 and one 
pair)


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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

When I was on the road, whenever I was near a grocery store, I picked up 
a lot of meals at the meat or deli counter.  Sliced roast beef, or 
turkey, etc with some tater salad makes a good meal or two.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM
Diet anything can't be good for you. Ice tea in large quantities is 
why you've lost weight, it's just water you've let go as tea is a 
dieuretic. Drink water, it's all you really need. Pack your own lunch, 
fast food is loaded with salt and expensive. Ranch is just sugar...

Curt


Low sugar varieties of prepared foods are generally high in fat.
Low fat varieties of prepared foods are generally high in sugar, or 
worse, HFCS.

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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Diet anything can't be good for you. Ice tea in large quantities is why you've 
lost weight, it's just water you've let go as tea is a dieuretic. Drink water, 
it's all you really need. Pack your own lunch, fast food is loaded with salt 
and expensive. Ranch is just sugar...
Curt

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  On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   Well I hear you will fell like crap 
for a few days but after it passes you will have more energy. 

My problem is I'm on the go all day so I have to find things at fast food 
places to eat. Yesterday it was Arby's classic with no but and just a touch of 
Arby's sauce with a side salad. That was 11 carbs. Today it was a McDonald 
quarter pounder with cheese with no bun or Catsup with a side salad. I can have 
ranch but their ranch had 11 carbs as opposed to most other ranch that has 1-2. 
So that meal ended up being 20 carbs. Dinner will be grilled chicken breast and 
green beans with probably a hard boiled egg and maybe a couple is slices of 
cheese. Should keep me under 30 which is well under my goal. 

I have been sticking with unsweetened tea but am considering trying diet soda. 
I have heard mixed reviews on it. Some say it's fine to drink with this sort of 
diet, others say it can slow down things even though it has no calories or 
carbs. I may try it and see how it goes. I do know several years ago I pretty 
much cut out all sugar and drank diet soda and I lost weight just doing that. 

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> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb sez:
> 
>> ‎Well this is day 2 of no sugar and very low >carbs. I had 27 net carbs 
>> yesterday and >so far today have had about 20 of my 69 I >have allowed 
>> myself.
> 
> Wait until the withdrawals hit...
> 
> Sugar should be classified as a drug.
> 
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[MBZ] tars

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It looks like I am in the market for some 225 65 R16 tars.  Cooper CS 4 
tars are turning into clown car tars with the side to side wobble.


Anyone had experience with this size tars lasting long enough to wear out?

Non MB vehicle...

Is discount tar direct still about the best place to buy?   They are at 
$101 for Cooper CS5.


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Re: [MBZ] BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Typical BAT auction.  First day or two things are brisk, activity dies down 
through the week, then things will start picking up on Sunday for a Monday 
afternoon close.

And you know what?  If it does stall, so be it.  It will be the Okie deal you 
missed out on… I gave you first dibs and you passed.

-D


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> 
> It looks like the crack frenzy has stalled on Poos trying to cash in. I 
> predict he will take a bath on it.
> 
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[MBZ] BAT

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It looks like the crack frenzy has stalled on Poos trying to cash in. I predict 
he will take a bath on it.

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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
October 13, 2017 at 7:57 PM
Think bacon butter... whole milk... full fat Greek yogurt... 
And don't use vegetable oils, or that artificial crap.


Rick


If if won't spoil, it is NOT food!   Locally grown fats are the best.  
Find a local meat locker, dairy etc.  BTW, store lard is plastic, don't 
use it.  Render your own or buy it from a locker that renders their own 
and tells you it has to be refrigerated or frozen to keep a while.   Try 
to avoid meats grown with antibiotics, hormones, etc.   Try to avoid 
GMO: corn, soybean, canola, cotton seed oil, etc.  Grape seed oil or a 
few brands of olive oil are ok where you can't use butter or clean 
animal fat.


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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

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Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 

I have been sticking with unsweetened tea but am considering trying 
diet soda. I have heard mixed reviews on it. l
Diet pop will kill you.  STAY AWAY!  As bad as the sugar is, it won't 
harm you as  much as the chemical pop.

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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Its whatcha get for eating jelly made from plants grown in el merde de gato!


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
October 13, 2017 at 2:20 PM
Seems like this group comprises all the major ailments, which offers me
hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.

Several years back I developed a gastrointestinal reflux issue (GERD) that
only manifests itself when I am asleep. I typically awake thirsty around
4 AM because my mouth dries out (mouth breather), and when I take a sip of
water that immediately detonates the GERD depth charger. I get this queasy
feeling that keeps me from going back to sleep.

I've also tried a Tums at bed time, with very limited success, as well as
ginger pills and Nexium-and Prevacid type drugs. The latter only makes
things worse. Oddly, I never have any symptoms when awake during the day,
and the symptoms are almost exclusively triggered when I take that 4AM sip
of water. Ideally, I wuld like to take a pill at bedtime to get me through
this nasty ritual.

Anyone else BTDT?

A jar of artisanal jalapeno pepper jelly to whoever solves this 
problem for

me.

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

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Andrew Strasfogel wrote:   Seems like this group comprises all the major 
ailments, which offers me hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.
> 
> Several years back I developed a gastrointestinal reflux issue (GERD) that
> only manifests itself when I am asleep.  I typically awake thirsty  around
> 4 AM because my mouth dries out (mouth breather), and when I take a sip of
> water that immediately detonates the GERD depth charger.  I get this queasy
> feeling that keeps me from going back to sleep.
> 
> I've also tried a Tums at bed time, with very limited success, as well as
> ginger pills and Nexium-and Prevacid type drugs.  The latter only makes
> things worse.  Oddly, I never have any symptoms when awake during the day,
> and the symptoms are almost exclusively triggered when I take that 4AM sip
> of water.  Ideally, I wuld like to take a pill at bedtime to get me through
> this nasty ritual.
> 
> Anyone else BTDT?
~


The first thing I would do would be to make an appt with a gastroenterologist 
since the symptoms seem strange. A heliobacter pylori infection, which can 
cause gerd, can also cause stomach cancer.

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera=bacterium+that+causes+gerd=opera=UTF-8=UTF-8
 
If the doctor prescribed Nexium or Prevacid or similar drugs, I would ask for a 
ranitidine 150 mg prescription since it doesn't have the most serious side 
effects of the others.

That's what I would do. I'm not suggesting that you do the same, however, since 
"practicing medicine without a license" could cost me my lab rat licence and I 
might need it again if the government guts social security any more than they 
have already by eliminating COLA.
Good luck,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[Peter Hertzing via Mercedes]

Start drinking water...  I gave up all soda that didn't have Rum in it and it 
really helped my digestive track, and makes cut my heart palpitations in half.  
I carry the 64? Ounce yeti thermos with ice and water.  Gotten used to it.  
Still drink some unsweetened tea when I need something else.

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> On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well I hear you will fell like crap for a few days but after it passes you 
> will have more energy. 
> 
> My problem is I'm on the go all day so I have to find things at fast food 
> places to eat. Yesterday it was Arby's classic with no but and just a touch 
> of Arby's sauce with a side salad. That was 11 carbs. Today it was a McDonald 
> quarter pounder with cheese with no bun or Catsup with a side salad. I can 
> have ranch but their ranch had 11 carbs as opposed to most other ranch that 
> has 1-2. So that meal ended up being 20 carbs. Dinner will be grilled chicken 
> breast and green beans with probably a hard boiled egg and maybe a couple is 
> slices of cheese. Should keep me under 30 which is well under my goal. 
> 
> I have been sticking with unsweetened tea but am considering trying diet 
> soda. I have heard mixed reviews on it. Some say it's fine to drink with this 
> sort of diet, others say it can slow down things even though it has no 
> calories or carbs. I may try it and see how it goes. I do know several years 
> ago I pretty much cut out all sugar and drank diet soda and I lost weight 
> just doing that. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Kaleb sez:
>> 
>>> ‎Well this is day 2 of no sugar and very low >carbs. I had 27 net carbs 
>>> yesterday and >so far today have had about 20 of my 69 I >have allowed 
>>> myself.
>> 
>> Wait until the withdrawals hit...
>> 
>> Sugar should be classified as a drug.
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That's how many carbs their ranch has in it. Way too many but I still stayed 
under 30 carbs yesterday. 

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> 
> Kaleb asks:
> 
>> ‎What sort of salad dressing comes on >that?
> 
> Newman's Own Southwest. It's got a few carbs in it, but you don't have to use 
> the whole thing. You can probably get whatever else they have though.
> 
> https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/newmans-own-creamy-southwest-dressing.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL for sale

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Price and location?

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> Hey list folks:
> 
> My brother is wanting to sell ihis 86 300SDL.  He's replaced it with a newer 
> car.
> 
> 275k I think, engine rebuild (after a fractured oil pan incident), rebuilt 
> tranny a few years back, probably 60k miles ago.  Interior is a bit rough, 
> will need seat covers eventually, fronts are cracked and torn.
> 
> Radiator is a custom rebuild for the top tank, aluminum (since they are NLA).
> 
> Minor body damage at the rear edge of the right rear door, parking lot scrape 
> I think.
> 
> Runs well., but the AC needs work (won't hold a charge, may just be o-rings).
> 
> Will have pictures tomorrow if anyone is interested.
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kaleb asks:

>‎What sort of salad dressing comes on >that?

Newman's Own Southwest. It's got a few carbs in it, but you don't have to use 
the whole thing. You can probably get whatever else they have though.

https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/newmans-own-creamy-southwest-dressing.html

Rick
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