Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Andy queries :

‎>Who's Andy?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 2018

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I was in the garage working. 
That is my NY resolution.  
Get more sh, uh stuff done. 

Happy New Year! 

Time to relax, have a nice cold
St. Pauley Girl NA, and go to bed.

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] 2018

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

And the first and reply of the year...

Bob R

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> Here is the first post of 2018, at least in Okieland.
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Re: [MBZ] Starter choice

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Andrew wrote:

> Advance auto offers Delco and Bosch starters.  Fairly
> significant price difference.  Any good reason to spring for the
> Bosch?

The Bosch starters last longer and run better than any of others
I've tried.  From my reading, I'm not the only one with that experience.

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is that usually the coil windings have acquired too much
resistance, and if you don't replace the armature, you will
still have a weak, high current draw starter.  New bushing and
turning the commutator will do very little to fix it.  So far
as I know, only Bosch rewinds the armatures"


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[MBZ] 2018

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Here is the first post of 2018, at least in Okieland.


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[MBZ] Happy New Year

[OK Don via Mercedes]

and safe driving to all in 2018. May the Diesel and Mercedes gods be with
you . . .

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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I've never put gasoline in intentionally to dilute #2.  Once, 
unintentionally, and that was in the Quantum.   I much prefer to mix #1 
if I can't find Winter Diesel blend to buy.



clay monroe via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 11:37 PM
And that has been a great A**saver a few times. Dilute the grease with 
petrol and #2 was flowing well enough once more.



clay


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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

And that has been a great A**saver a few times.  Dilute the grease with petrol 
and #2 was flowing well enough once more.


clay 

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> On Dec 31, 2017, at 5:24 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The manual for my old car says up to 30% regular gasoline
> 
> 
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>  Date: 2017-12-31  6:26 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
> Discussion List  Cc: Curley McLain 
> <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts 
> The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM
>> Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a 
>> supplement.
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[MBZ] Starter choice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Advance auto offers Delco and Bosch starters.  Fairly significant price
difference.  Any good reason to spring for the Bosch?

https://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?N=0=AND(wpn_tl_name:Engine+%26+Drivetrain,wpn_cat_name:Starters%5C%2C+Alternators%5C%2C+Batteries+%26+Components,wpn_scat_name:Starters+%26+Components,part:Starter)
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

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Who's Andy?

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On December 31, 2017 at 4:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers
> wouldn't be able to go north...
>
> I've seen claims that you need to buy diesel from truck stops if you want
> to take a long drive north in the winter. I don't know how truthful that
> is, but this guy from Iowa had some grief by fueling up at home and driving
> to Wisconsin for Christmas. (which surprised me, because I always
> considered Iowa to be one of the cold states)
> http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/418-gen2-diesel-general-
> discussion/220113-gelled-fuel-story.html
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[MBZ] Seat Belt Extenders?

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Do these actually fit 124s and/or 210s?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-UNIVERSAL-CAR-SUV-SEAT-BELT-EXTENDER-EXTENSION-BUCKLE-SAFETY-CLIP-25CM-5CM/311803654089
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

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> On December 31, 2017 at 4:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers 
> wouldn't be able to go north...

I've seen claims that you need to buy diesel from truck stops if you want to 
take a long drive north in the winter. I don't know how truthful that is, but 
this guy from Iowa had some grief by fueling up at home and driving to 
Wisconsin for Christmas. (which surprised me, because I always considered Iowa 
to be one of the cold states)
http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/418-gen2-diesel-general-discussion/220113-gelled-fuel-story.html

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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ok, thanks!  I couldn't remember the number.


tyee165 via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 7:24 PM
The manual for my old car says up to 30% regular gasoline



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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Andy doesn't want it right.  He just likes to complain here and ignore 
the advice given.



tyee165 via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 7:00 PM
Stop screwing around and test the dam*ed thing


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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is so easy to check if the block heater works.   Plug it in 
overnight.  In the morning lift the nood and stick you bare hand on the 
head or block.  If it is warmer than ambient, ut is working.  If you 
feel metal the same temp as the fender, replace the cord and try again.



Andrew Strasfogel 
December 31, 2017 at 6:57 PM
I tried the one glow+ method again today.  Fired up after 20 seconds.  
Block heater plugged in but unclear whether it really works or not.




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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Stop screwing around and test the dam*ed thing 


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 Date: 2017-12-31  6:57 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts 
I tried the one glow+ method again today.  Fired up after 20 seconds.
Block heater plugged in but unclear whether it really works or not.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%.
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM
>> Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a supplement.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Trucks have APUs.  My guess is either they plug in the the truck and 
that also powers the fuel heater(s) as well as the block heater; or the 
heaters run off battery power and the APU starts up every so often to 
recharge the batteries.  Dunno, I've never been that close to them.  The 
other thing is most of the trucks under 3 yrs old are kept on the road 
nearly all the time.  If it is a single driver, then the APU runs while 
the driver sleeps, and it or the batteries keep the fuel warm.



Curt Raymond 
December 31, 2017 at 5:05 PM
How does that work when they shut down? Have to run the heater awhile 
before it will start?
Back when I first got out of high school I did some work on the 
railroad, they were running bunker fuel and it was a big deal to get 
one started if it got shut down in winter...



Curt


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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

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Yes, the manual for at least one of my previous MBs did say up to 30%
gasoline. I always added Power Service when I filled when it was going to
be cold and never had a problem with gelled fuel, even down to -5° F. The
main problem I had back then was straight dino oil and old batteries. Once
I switched to Mobil1, I never again had a problem starting in the cold,
even without a block heater (at work after sitting in an open lot for 9+
hours at or below 0° F

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:24 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  wrote:

> The manual for my old car says up to 30% regular gasoline
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-12-31  6:26 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
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> 126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts
> The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%.
>
> > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> > December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM
> > Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a
> > supplement.
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Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Wife came home with a bottle of 65%avocado and 35%olive oil yesterday. We
tried it today for mushrooms to accompany the steak, and I couldn't tell
the difference between it and the 50/50 butter/olive oil she usually does.
It was on sale for just a little more than the usual olive oil.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Or avocado oil - available at Costco.  I think I paid $7 or 8 for a liter
> when it first arrived.  Odorless, tasteless and suitable for very high
> temperature cooking.  Here's a handy how-to video.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVo-qNHCXM
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > It is not for you!  It is animal fat based gun grease made for food
> plants
> > to grease machinery, bearings, etc.  It is not intended to be food, just
> > intended to not be harmful in the event that some gets into your food.
> >
> > For greasing your skillet/griddle use butter, coconut oil, grapeseed oil
> > or olive oil
> >
> > For your 110/111's 15 grease zerks, use Molykote BR2!
> >
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >> December 31, 2017 at 8:26 AM
> >> Why do I have an aversion to the idea of getting “food grade grease”
> from
> >> Amsoil?
> >>
> >> -D looking for alternatives to greasing his food
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[OK Don via Mercedes]

No, I'm only seeing you once. I still sometimes see my posts twice though .
. .

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> “Dear Penthouse Forum, you’re never going to believe this, but….”
>
> On an unrelated note, is it just me or are my messages from earlier today
> getting repeated?
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 31, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I used to learn a lot in the Penthouse Forum but I don’t know if it is
> online now or not.
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't usually use forums, as a "regular". If they come up in a search
> I am doing, I'll check them out. I know someone here who moderates (or used
> to) a diesel forum.
> >>
> >> I wonder where Dave M, (Spud boy, GXSR) hangs out... I'll have to
> search later this evening...
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

The manual for my old car says up to 30% regular gasoline


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts 
The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%.

> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM
> Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a 
> supplement.

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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I tried the one glow+ method again today.  Fired up after 20 seconds.
Block heater plugged in but unclear whether it really works or not.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%.
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM
>> Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a supplement.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Or avocado oil - available at Costco.  I think I paid $7 or 8 for a liter
when it first arrived.  Odorless, tasteless and suitable for very high
temperature cooking.  Here's a handy how-to video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVo-qNHCXM

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It is not for you!  It is animal fat based gun grease made for food plants
> to grease machinery, bearings, etc.  It is not intended to be food, just
> intended to not be harmful in the event that some gets into your food.
>
> For greasing your skillet/griddle use butter, coconut oil, grapeseed oil
> or olive oil
>
> For your 110/111's 15 grease zerks, use Molykote BR2!
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 8:26 AM
>> Why do I have an aversion to the idea of getting “food grade grease” from
>> Amsoil?
>>
>> -D looking for alternatives to greasing his food
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Pierre?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Extender that gets the plug out of the combustion chamber, away from oil
sources?  Also makes plug run a lot hotter, and lowers compression some.  I
tried one on the fouling 450SL.  Mostly just reduced wear on head threads
as plug came out for cleaning a _lot_.
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM
Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a 
supplement.


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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not way less, 10% or so. I can tell when they switch in the fall.

Curt

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  On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   Winter blend gets way less mpg doesnt 
it?  I would think that would be a 
big problem for large trucking companies.  I have never seen or heard of 
any different diesel being used in the winter here.


On 12/31/2017 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> How does that work when they shut down? Have to run the heater awhile before 
> it will start?Back when I first got out of high school I did some work on the 
> railroad, they were running bunker fuel and it was a big deal to get one 
> started if it got shut down in winter...
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>  
>    On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Curley McLain<126die...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Trucks use summer fuel all year long.  Road tractors have had tank heaters 
>for a couple of decades now, so the only places that sell winter blend are the 
>places that cater mainly to farmers and contractors with Dissel peekups. 
>Truckstops have been selling summer fuel year round for about a decade.  You 
>are lucky you didn't get a load of summer fuel until now.   I found that out 
>about 2002 -2003 or so after I fueled at one of my favorite truck stops.  I 
>went back to chew em out, and they told me the trucking world had changed.
>
> Some of the larger truckstops may have blended Diesel for pickups and reefer 
> tanks.  I have not yet seen a reefer tank with a heater, but when it is 20 
> below, the reefer doesn't need to run for frozen food.  They still need to 
> run to HEAT refrigerated loads, but I routinely got frozen onions every 
> winter.  Yuk!
>
>
>    Curt Raymond via Mercedes  December 31, 2017 at 3:11 PM  Doubt it unless 
>you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers wouldn't be able to go 
>north...
> Curt
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The only ones I can stand are the Cessna Pilots Society and the iFlyGPS
forums. They are easy enough to find interesting threads and don't have
that much traffic. I too prefer email lists . . .

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I generally do not like the online forums all that much, I much preferred
> email lists but I guess I am old fashioned.  Anyway, I do check out
> Benzworld and Peachparts every now and then.  Since it was so cold
> yesterday, and today, and tomorrow, I have been bored and have been reading
> them a bit.  On Peachparts yesterday I saw in the sale section what
> appeared to be a really nice 87 TD that a guy was selling.  It had it down
> to $1k and still nobody wanted it.  I think he ended up selling it to be
> used as a rally car.  Sad.  I guess there is not value in 124's and/or 603
> powered vehicles anymore?  I am currently reading a huge thread about 642
> oil cooler replacement as I need to get this done on mine.  So anyway,
> which of the online forums do you guys read and like the most?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Winter blend gets way less mpg doesnt it?  I would think that would be a 
big problem for large trucking companies.  I have never seen or heard of 
any different diesel being used in the winter here.



On 12/31/2017 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

How does that work when they shut down? Have to run the heater awhile before it 
will start?Back when I first got out of high school I did some work on the 
railroad, they were running bunker fuel and it was a big deal to get one 
started if it got shut down in winter...

Curt

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   On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Curley McLain<126die...@gmail.com> wrote:   Trucks use summer fuel all year long.  Road tractors have had tank heaters for a couple of decades now, so the only places that sell winter blend are the places that cater mainly to farmers and contractors with Dissel peekups. Truckstops have been selling summer fuel year round for about a decade.  You are lucky you didn't get a load of summer fuel until now.   I found that out about 2002 -2003 or so after I fueled at one of my favorite truck stops.  I went back to chew em out, and they told me the trucking world had changed.


Some of the larger truckstops may have blended Diesel for pickups and reefer 
tanks.  I have not yet seen a reefer tank with a heater, but when it is 20 
below, the reefer doesn't need to run for frozen food.  They still need to run 
to HEAT refrigerated loads, but I routinely got frozen onions every winter.  
Yuk!


Curt Raymond via Mercedes  December 31, 2017 at 3:11 PM  Doubt it unless 
you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers wouldn't be able to go 
north...
Curt



   
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a supplement.


On 12/31/2017 4:30 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
That's my point!   Works great when it is 114 outside not well at 
all at 13ºF!   You need to mix your own fuel before you condemn car or 
batteries.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 2:44 PM
I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year long here.



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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

How does that work when they shut down? Have to run the heater awhile before it 
will start?Back when I first got out of high school I did some work on the 
railroad, they were running bunker fuel and it was a big deal to get one 
started if it got shut down in winter...

Curt

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  On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Curley McLain<126die...@gmail.com> wrote:   
Trucks use summer fuel all year long.  Road tractors have had tank heaters for 
a couple of decades now, so the only places that sell winter blend are the 
places that cater mainly to farmers and contractors with Dissel peekups. 
Truckstops have been selling summer fuel year round for about a decade.  You 
are lucky you didn't get a load of summer fuel until now.   I found that out 
about 2002 -2003 or so after I fueled at one of my favorite truck stops.  I 
went back to chew em out, and they told me the trucking world had changed. 

Some of the larger truckstops may have blended Diesel for pickups and reefer 
tanks.  I have not yet seen a reefer tank with a heater, but when it is 20 
below, the reefer doesn't need to run for frozen food.  They still need to run 
to HEAT refrigerated loads, but I routinely got frozen onions every winter.  
Yuk!


   Curt Raymond via Mercedes  December 31, 2017 at 3:11 PM  Doubt it unless 
you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers wouldn't be able to go 
north...
Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Delayed mail from Dan WUZ: online forums

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Somethin did , either your or your ISP, or perhaps the ATT servers?
Some tracert earlier would have told the story.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM
I'm wondering if my mail server hiccuped.

-D





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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Must sell Mercedes

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Doh!


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 31 December 2017 17:29
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Mitch Haley
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Must sell Mercedes


> On December 31, 2017 at 4:53 PM Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
>
> Slightly crusty TD

Or TE, as the case may be...

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Delayed mail from Dan WUZ: online forums

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m wondering if my mail server hiccuped.

-D


> On Dec 31, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just got a bunch from Dan Penoff time stamped from 8:30 am on.   They were 
> not there at 2:15, but showed up when I opened up the computer again at 4:15.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM
>> 
>> On an unrelated note, is it just me or are my messages from earlier today 
>> getting repeated?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Delayed mail from Dan WUZ: online forums

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I just got a bunch from Dan Penoff time stamped from 8:30 am on.   They 
were not there at 2:15, but showed up when I opened up the computer 
again at 4:15.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM

On an unrelated note, is it just me or are my messages from earlier 
today getting repeated?


-D




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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

He useta be on BW.


Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 2:45 PM
I don't usually use forums, as a "regular". If they come up in a 
search I am doing, I'll check them out. I know someone here who 
moderates (or used to) a diesel forum.


I wonder where Dave M, (Spud boy, GXSR) hangs out... I'll have to 
search later this evening...


Rick


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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That's my point!   Works great when it is 114 outside not well at 
all at 13ºF!   You need to mix your own fuel before you condemn car or 
batteries.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 2:44 PM
I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year long here.



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Must sell Mercedes

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 31, 2017 at 4:53 PM Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Slightly crusty TD

Or TE, as the case may be...

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is not for you!  It is animal fat based gun grease made for food 
plants to grease machinery, bearings, etc.  It is not intended to be 
food, just intended to not be harmful in the event that some gets into 
your food.


For greasing your skillet/griddle use butter, coconut oil, grapeseed oil 
or olive oil


For your 110/111's 15 grease zerks, use Molykote BR2!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 8:26 AM
Why do I have an aversion to the idea of getting “food grade grease” 
from Amsoil?


-D looking for alternatives to greasing his food



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Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I know.  I was just messing with the post.

Sort of like every time I go to the airport I point out “terminal parking” to 
my kids.  “Don’t want to park there!!!”



-D


> On Dec 31, 2017, at 5:08 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Dan wrote:
> 
>> Why do I have an aversion to the idea of getting “food grade
>> grease” from Amsoil?
> 
> Food grade grease if for the machines that handle food.  If you
> have a meat band saw, do you want non-food grade grease on the
> bandwheel bearings?
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Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:

> Why do I have an aversion to the idea of getting “food grade
> grease” from Amsoil?

Food grade grease if for the machines that handle food.  If you
have a meat band saw, do you want non-food grade grease on the
bandwheel bearings?

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[MBZ] Fw: Must sell Mercedes

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Slightly crusty TD


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: nore...@craigslist.org 
Sent: 31 December 2017 16:47
To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: Must sell Mercedes


fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:


Must sell Mercedes

https://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/6421875496.html
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That is true I suppose 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers 
> wouldn't be able to go north...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year long here. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 31, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > ok, but WHAT is in the fuel tank?  I'm still betting on summer fuel for 100 
> > to 120ºF.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> December 31, 2017 at 12:35 PM
> >> I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them.
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers 
wouldn't be able to go north...
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   I am pretty sure we have the same fuel 
all year long here. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> ok, but WHAT is in the fuel tank?  I'm still betting on summer fuel for 100 
> to 120ºF.
> 
> 
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 12:35 PM
>> I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them.
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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

“Dear Penthouse Forum, you’re never going to believe this, but….”

On an unrelated note, is it just me or are my messages from earlier today 
getting repeated?

-D

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used to learn a lot in the Penthouse Forum but I don’t know if it is online 
> now or not. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't usually use forums, as a "regular". If they come up in a search I am 
>> doing, I'll check them out. I know someone here who moderates (or used to) a 
>> diesel forum. 
>> 
>> I wonder where Dave M, (Spud boy, GXSR) hangs out... I'll have to search 
>> later this evening...
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I used to learn a lot in the Penthouse Forum but I don’t know if it is online 
now or not. 

--R
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> On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't usually use forums, as a "regular". If they come up in a search I am 
> doing, I'll check them out. I know someone here who moderates (or used to) a 
> diesel forum. 
> 
> I wonder where Dave M, (Spud boy, GXSR) hangs out... I'll have to search 
> later this evening...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It depends.  I don’t frequent BW as much as I used to, since I really don’t 
have a need.  However, back in the day with cars like the W140s it was 
indispensable for troubleshooting and fault diagnosis.

Most of the subforums have FAQs and other very informative posts “stickied” at 
the top of the forum as references for common issues or repairs, which makes it 
really nice when you wade into a model you’re not familiar with.

To just hang around and comment?  Nope.  I have the W210, W124 and R129 forums 
bookmarked in my browser, but the only one I ever look at is the W210 forum, 
and that’s just to see if there’s anything being posed that might be relevant.

-D


> On Dec 31, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I dislike them immensely, as a source of info; unless you find them in search 
> results, but even then you have to read through a lot of extra stuff to get 
> to the meat.
> 
> I learn a lot more from this email list.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 9:27 AM
>> I generally do not like the online forums all that much, I much preferred 
>> email lists but I guess I am old fashioned.  Anyway, I do check out 
>> Benzworld and Peachparts every now and then.  Since it was so cold 
>> yesterday, and today, and tomorrow, I have been bored and have been reading 
>> them a bit.  On Peachparts yesterday I saw in the sale section what appeared 
>> to be a really nice 87 TD that a guy was selling.  It had it down to $1k and 
>> still nobody wanted it.  I think he ended up selling it to be used as a 
>> rally car.  Sad.  I guess there is not value in 124's and/or 603 powered 
>> vehicles anymore?  I am currently reading a huge thread about 642 oil cooler 
>> replacement as I need to get this done on mine.  So anyway, which of the 
>> online forums do you guys read and like the most?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I don't usually use forums, as a "regular". If they come up in a search I am 
doing, I'll check them out. I know someone here who moderates (or used to) a 
diesel forum. 

I wonder where Dave M, (Spud boy, GXSR) hangs out... I'll have to search later 
this evening...

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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year long here. 

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> On Dec 31, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> ok, but WHAT is in the fuel tank?   I'm still betting on summer fuel for 100 
> to 120ºF.
> 
> 
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 12:35 PM
>> I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them.
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Re: [MBZ] foooot ball season

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sheboygan?  Could be German or Dutch.  That identifies about 95% of the 
population there.  A little further south of town is Oostburg, which is 100% 
Dutch, then a little farther south to Belgium and Fedonia, which are both, 
well, Belgian.

-D former Sheboyganite


> On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:01 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounded German. "A little Dutch (Deutch?) girl in Sheboygan...", etc.
> Gerry
> ~~~
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:59:36 -0600
> Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> nope, that is Polish NoDak.
>> 
>>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> December 30, 2017 at 9:58 PM
>>> Watched Lawrence Welk re-run tonight. "And a one and a two..." in that 
>>> thick Midwestern accent.
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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I pretty much stick to BenzWorld.  I’ve found that if you’re looking for 
model-specific information it’s the best place, in my opinion.  I suspect 
that’s where you’re reading up on the oil cooler replacement - I bet someone 
has done a DIY on it and posted the information.

I’ve also found that there are a number of people on BenzWorld who are subject 
matter experts who have been enormous help in diagnosing and repairing certain 
subsystems, like transmissions.

PeachParts seems a lot less organized and generalized as far as models and 
vehicle types.  They seem to lump a lot of stuff together, which makes it 
difficult to find specific information, even with searches.

I subscribe to the “For Sale” sections for parts and cars on both just to see 
what’s being sold in case there’s something that catches my eye.

-D



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> I generally do not like the online forums all that much, I much preferred 
> email lists but I guess I am old fashioned.  Anyway, I do check out Benzworld 
> and Peachparts every now and then.  Since it was so cold yesterday, and 
> today, and tomorrow, I have been bored and have been reading them a bit.  On 
> Peachparts yesterday I saw in the sale section what appeared to be a really 
> nice 87 TD that a guy was selling.  It had it down to $1k and still nobody 
> wanted it.  I think he ended up selling it to be used as a rally car.  Sad.  
> I guess there is not value in 124's and/or 603 powered vehicles anymore?  I 
> am currently reading a huge thread about 642 oil cooler replacement as I need 
> to get this done on mine.  So anyway, which of the online forums do you guys 
> read and like the most?
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Re: [MBZ] foooot ball season

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here’s Lawrence with the Maharelle Sisters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KLSg1h0e-M

-D


> On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Watched Lawrence Welk re-run tonight.  "And a one and a two..." in that thick 
> Midwestern accent.
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> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On December 30, 2017 10:38:10 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Why do I have an aversion to the idea of getting “food grade grease” from 
Amsoil?

-D looking for alternatives to greasing his food


> On Dec 30, 2017, at 9:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I received a "Factory Direct" Amsoil catalog in the mail today - they do
> claim their oil is 100% synthetic. They also have other interesting oils
> like gun oil, "food grade grease", synthetic chain saw chain oil, brake
> fluids, etc. Everything except aviation oil :-(

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[MBZ] Happy New Year!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Happy New Year! to all y'all!

May your MBs all run without flaw!

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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Exactly my problem in the 83 300TD.  I guess a working block heater would
help.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> So it is currently 13 outside and i decided I wanted to see if a few cars
> would start.  I did not mess with starting the 606 vehicles as I know they
> will start.  So first up was the 83 240D I have been working on that I
> picked up non running.  It has had all new filters, oil change, valves
> adjusted, 1 bad glow plug replaced. I has been starting as soon as glow
> plug light goes out when its been down to about 25-30 with no problem.
> Today I tried to start it with the same condition cranking after light went
> out, it would not start.  I then glowed it till the relay clicked off, then
> cycled key again and started cranking, and cranked it for as long as the
> battery had left and it was a no go.  If I had not tried the first attempt
> it may have lit off.  This car is in the shop but there is no heat out
> there so it would have been about outside temp.  It sits on the charger in
> maintain mode so I will probably go try it again tomorrow with the proper
> 616 cold start procedure as demonstrated by Jaime.
>
> Up next with the 87 SDL.  I glowed it until the light went off then waited
> for about 30 more seconds past that, then started cranking.  I figured this
> was overkill with the 603.  So it acted like it might be going to start, a
> couple of cylinders would hit a few times but eventually the battery ran
> out and she was done.  I was a little disappointed with that one but I
> think the battery is a little weak.  I went to drive it a few days ago and
> it was nowhere near as cold as it is today.  It started right up after the
> first glow an ran for a couple of seconds before dying like it always seems
> to when its really cold.  When I went to start it for the 2nd time the
> battery was too weak so I put it on the charger. A newer battery and it
> would have probably started.
>
> Last up was the 92 rod bender.  I was sure this one would fire right up
> and sure enough it did.  I just glowed it and as son as the light went out
> I cranked it and it fired right up with no problem, ran smooth right off
> the bad.  Of course this car has the afterglow feature.  I ran it for a
> couple of minutes then shut it down.
>
> The SDL is charging again and if I have to go anywhere today I want to
> drive it, so maybe it will start later.
>
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Re: [MBZ] TOO MUCH RED

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Watching the original Dr. No.  Well crafted, taut thriller with Sean
Connery at his finest.  A little hokey, but thoroughly enjoyable.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> The criticism of the english car is not remarkable to anyone who tried to
> drive one.
> As for the batman, he was too much like the prince of darkness, Lucas.
>
> Batman and superman were passe when I was a kid.remnants of the 30s, 40s
> and 50s.  FIreball XL5, yogi bear, and the Warner Brothers cartoons, along
> with the jetsons and a few other H-B offerings were what I watched on Sat
> during the winter.  If I could stay up late enough, i tried to watch 12
> o'clock High.  It came on at 10:30.   All Black and white.  I got my first
> color TV in 1981.  Never had cable until 1991-1993. and again a while
> 1995-1998.
>
>> archer75--- via Mercedes 
>> December 31, 2017 at 1:40 AM
>> On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:27:39 -0600
>> We saw the first and maybe the second Bond movie. The one I remember had
>> him driving a (Triumph?) around that had some sort of auger that came out
>> and ruptured an evildoers tire. He complained about the many mechanical
>> problems the car had which seemed strange in a movie.
>>
>> Does anyone read the current daily newspaper comics? A couple of strips
>> about kids takes me back since they are so typical of some of the grade
>> school kids of 80 years ago when I went to grade school. Batman and
>> Superman were the movie heros of that era, as well as a number of actors in
>> the many Western movies. A kid could go to movies for a dime on Saturday
>> matinee; 15 cents any other time.
>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] online forums

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I dislike them immensely, as a source of info; unless you find them in 
search results, but even then you have to read through a lot of extra 
stuff to get to the meat.


I learn a lot more from this email list.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 9:27 AM
I generally do not like the online forums all that much, I much 
preferred email lists but I guess I am old fashioned.  Anyway, I do 
check out Benzworld and Peachparts every now and then.  Since it was 
so cold yesterday, and today, and tomorrow, I have been bored and have 
been reading them a bit.  On Peachparts yesterday I saw in the sale 
section what appeared to be a really nice 87 TD that a guy was 
selling.  It had it down to $1k and still nobody wanted it.  I think 
he ended up selling it to be used as a rally car.  Sad.  I guess there 
is not value in 124's and/or 603 powered vehicles anymore?  I am 
currently reading a huge thread about 642 oil cooler replacement as I 
need to get this done on mine.  So anyway, which of the online forums 
do you guys read and like the most?




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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ok, but WHAT is in the fuel tank?   I'm still betting on summer fuel for 
100 to 120ºF.





Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 12:35 PM
I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them.


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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well it’s now up to 17, I went out and checked the charger on the sdl and it 
said fully charger. I glowed it until the relay clicked off, cycled the key 
again then started cranking. A couple starting hitting, then more, and it fired 
to life with a huge cloud of smoke. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Exactly my problem in the 83 300TD.  I guess a working block heater would 
>> help.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> So it is currently 13 outside and i decided I wanted to see if a few cars 
>>> would start.  I did not mess with starting the 606 vehicles as I know they 
>>> will start.  So first up was the 83 240D I have been working on that I 
>>> picked up non running.  It has had all new filters, oil change, valves 
>>> adjusted, 1 bad glow plug replaced. I has been starting as soon as glow 
>>> plug light goes out when its been down to about 25-30 with no problem.  
>>> Today I tried to start it with the same condition cranking after light went 
>>> out, it would not start.  I then glowed it till the relay clicked off, then 
>>> cycled key again and started cranking, and cranked it for as long as the 
>>> battery had left and it was a no go.  If I had not tried the first attempt 
>>> it may have lit off.  This car is in the shop but there is no heat out 
>>> there so it would have been about outside temp.  It sits on the charger in 
>>> maintain mode so I will probably go try it again tomorrow with the proper 
>>> 616 cold start procedure as demonstrated by Jaime.
>>> 
>>> Up next with the 87 SDL.  I glowed it until the light went off then waited 
>>> for about 30 more seconds past that, then started cranking.  I figured this 
>>> was overkill with the 603.  So it acted like it might be going to start, a 
>>> couple of cylinders would hit a few times but eventually the battery ran 
>>> out and she was done.  I was a little disappointed with that one but I 
>>> think the battery is a little weak.  I went to drive it a few days ago and 
>>> it was nowhere near as cold as it is today.  It started right up after the 
>>> first glow an ran for a couple of seconds before dying like it always seems 
>>> to when its really cold.  When I went to start it for the 2nd time the 
>>> battery was too weak so I put it on the charger. A newer battery and it 
>>> would have probably started.
>>> 
>>> Last up was the 92 rod bender.  I was sure this one would fire right up and 
>>> sure enough it did.  I just glowed it and as son as the light went out I 
>>> cranked it and it fired right up with no problem, ran smooth right off the 
>>> bad.  Of course this car has the afterglow feature.  I ran it for a couple 
>>> of minutes then shut it down.
>>> 
>>> The SDL is charging again and if I have to go anywhere today I want to 
>>> drive it, so maybe it will start later.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Exactly my problem in the 83 300TD.  I guess a working block heater would 
> help.
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So it is currently 13 outside and i decided I wanted to see if a few cars 
>> would start.  I did not mess with starting the 606 vehicles as I know they 
>> will start.  So first up was the 83 240D I have been working on that I 
>> picked up non running.  It has had all new filters, oil change, valves 
>> adjusted, 1 bad glow plug replaced. I has been starting as soon as glow plug 
>> light goes out when its been down to about 25-30 with no problem.  Today I 
>> tried to start it with the same condition cranking after light went out, it 
>> would not start.  I then glowed it till the relay clicked off, then cycled 
>> key again and started cranking, and cranked it for as long as the battery 
>> had left and it was a no go.  If I had not tried the first attempt it may 
>> have lit off.  This car is in the shop but there is no heat out there so it 
>> would have been about outside temp.  It sits on the charger in maintain mode 
>> so I will probably go try it again tomorrow with the proper 616 cold start 
>> procedure as demonstrated by Jaime.
>> 
>> Up next with the 87 SDL.  I glowed it until the light went off then waited 
>> for about 30 more seconds past that, then started cranking.  I figured this 
>> was overkill with the 603.  So it acted like it might be going to start, a 
>> couple of cylinders would hit a few times but eventually the battery ran out 
>> and she was done.  I was a little disappointed with that one but I think the 
>> battery is a little weak.  I went to drive it a few days ago and it was 
>> nowhere near as cold as it is today.  It started right up after the first 
>> glow an ran for a couple of seconds before dying like it always seems to 
>> when its really cold.  When I went to start it for the 2nd time the battery 
>> was too weak so I put it on the charger. A newer battery and it would have 
>> probably started.
>> 
>> Last up was the 92 rod bender.  I was sure this one would fire right up and 
>> sure enough it did.  I just glowed it and as son as the light went out I 
>> cranked it and it fired right up with no problem, ran smooth right off the 
>> bad.  Of course this car has the afterglow feature.  I ran it for a couple 
>> of minutes then shut it down.
>> 
>> The SDL is charging again and if I have to go anywhere today I want to drive 
>> it, so maybe it will start later.
>> 
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[MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So it is currently 13 outside and i decided I wanted to see if a few 
cars would start.  I did not mess with starting the 606 vehicles as I 
know they will start.  So first up was the 83 240D I have been working 
on that I picked up non running.  It has had all new filters, oil 
change, valves adjusted, 1 bad glow plug replaced. I has been starting 
as soon as glow plug light goes out when its been down to about 25-30 
with no problem.  Today I tried to start it with the same condition 
cranking after light went out, it would not start.  I then glowed it 
till the relay clicked off, then cycled key again and started cranking, 
and cranked it for as long as the battery had left and it was a no go.  
If I had not tried the first attempt it may have lit off.  This car is 
in the shop but there is no heat out there so it would have been about 
outside temp.  It sits on the charger in maintain mode so I will 
probably go try it again tomorrow with the proper 616 cold start 
procedure as demonstrated by Jaime.


Up next with the 87 SDL.  I glowed it until the light went off then 
waited for about 30 more seconds past that, then started cranking.  I 
figured this was overkill with the 603.  So it acted like it might be 
going to start, a couple of cylinders would hit a few times but 
eventually the battery ran out and she was done.  I was a little 
disappointed with that one but I think the battery is a little weak.  I 
went to drive it a few days ago and it was nowhere near as cold as it is 
today.  It started right up after the first glow an ran for a couple of 
seconds before dying like it always seems to when its really cold.  When 
I went to start it for the 2nd time the battery was too weak so I put it 
on the charger. A newer battery and it would have probably started.


Last up was the 92 rod bender.  I was sure this one would fire right up 
and sure enough it did.  I just glowed it and as son as the light went 
out I cranked it and it fired right up with no problem, ran smooth right 
off the bad.  Of course this car has the afterglow feature.  I ran it 
for a couple of minutes then shut it down.


The SDL is charging again and if I have to go anywhere today I want to 
drive it, so maybe it will start later.



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Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 30, 2017 at 8:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> IIRC, Amsoil is the only one that makes a pure synthetic oil since the
> lawsuit that Mobil lost when claiming that the blended oil could not be
> labeled synthetic. Economics then dictated that everyone make the cheapest
> oil possible and call it synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic is all but gone,
> hence the concern for the dino oil component reacting with water . . .

And now you have several grades of M1, ranging from $20 a jug to $40 a jug...
But Castrol really had it made 25 years ago, with Syntec (blended/hydrocracked) 
selling in most stores for a dollar a quart more than Mobil One, when Mobil One 
was still fully synthetic.

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[MBZ] online forums

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I generally do not like the online forums all that much, I much 
preferred email lists but I guess I am old fashioned.  Anyway, I do 
check out Benzworld and Peachparts every now and then.  Since it was so 
cold yesterday, and today, and tomorrow, I have been bored and have been 
reading them a bit.  On Peachparts yesterday I saw in the sale section 
what appeared to be a really nice 87 TD that a guy was selling.  It had 
it down to $1k and still nobody wanted it.  I think he ended up selling 
it to be used as a rally car.  Sad.  I guess there is not value in 124's 
and/or 603 powered vehicles anymore?  I am currently reading a huge 
thread about 642 oil cooler replacement as I need to get this done on 
mine.  So anyway, which of the online forums do you guys read and like 
the most?



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Re: [MBZ] TOO MUCH RED

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The criticism of the english car is not remarkable to anyone who tried 
to drive one.

As for the batman, he was too much like the prince of darkness, Lucas.

Batman and superman were passe when I was a kid.remnants of the 30s, 40s 
and 50s.  FIreball XL5, yogi bear, and the Warner Brothers cartoons, 
along with the jetsons and a few other H-B offerings were what I watched 
on Sat during the winter.  If I could stay up late enough, i tried to 
watch 12 o'clock High.  It came on at 10:30.   All Black and white.  I 
got my first color TV in 1981.  Never had cable until 1991-1993. and 
again a while 1995-1998.

archer75--- via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 1:40 AM
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:27:39 -0600
We saw the first and maybe the second Bond movie. The one I remember 
had him driving a (Triumph?) around that had some sort of auger that 
came out and ruptured an evildoers tire. He complained about the many 
mechanical problems the car had which seemed strange in a movie.


Does anyone read the current daily newspaper comics? A couple of 
strips about kids takes me back since they are so typical of some of 
the grade school kids of 80 years ago when I went to grade school. 
Batman and Superman were the movie heros of that era, as well as a 
number of actors in the many Western movies. A kid could go to movies 
for a dime on Saturday matinee; 15 cents any other time.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] foooot ball season

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Could be a mixture.  Lots of territory went back and forth.  
(Danzig/Gdansk for example)

I always thought he was auf Deutsch until I was around Polish some.


archer75--- via Mercedes 
December 31, 2017 at 2:01 AM
Sounded German. "A little Dutch (Deutch?) girl in Sheboygan...", etc.
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] foooot ball season

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Sounded German. "A little Dutch (Deutch?) girl in Sheboygan...", etc.
Gerry
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:59:36 -0600
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

> nope, that is Polish NoDak.
> 
> > Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> > December 30, 2017 at 9:58 PM
> > Watched Lawrence Welk re-run tonight. "And a one and a two..." in that 
> > thick Midwestern accent.
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