Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I have no shortage of projects to do.  Then there are places to go.  And 
there are always things to do.


Under the things to do category: Went yesterday with SWMBO and had Irsh 
coffee and Fish and chips.  It was excellent and took over 2 hours.  And 
I am not old enough to drink coffee!



Fred Moir via Mercedes 
January 20, 2018 at 9:45 PM
My grandfather, born 1900, was retired from the Kent Constabulary in 
1965,and, after 6 months at home, my grandmother brought him his hat 
and coat saying "Don't come back until you have a job."


He took a Custodian of Quarters position for the Met. and worked for 
another 23 years, outliving my grandmother.


Retirement is not for the faint hearted.

My only real gripe is that everybody in my family thinks that I'm 
doing nothing, so feel free to steal my time for their projects! (And 
resent being told no. or hell no!)



Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.


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Re: [MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

"$2000.00 and that is a great price for the vintage Mercedes." UNTIL you 
have to do an evapectomy!



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
January 20, 2018 at 7:56 PM
1991 Mercedes Turbo Diesel

https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-turbo-diesel/6466684723.html



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Re: [MBZ] Not sure what to say about this

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 22:08:16 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I say Shirley would rather drive the white SDL.

Shirley does not drive.

I'm pretty sure Shirley would rather ride in the white SDL.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W163 and ball joints

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

cut the nut off with a grinder for flame wrench.  BTDT, don't remember 
how I got er done.  Most of the time i tighten it down, unless there is 
enough room under the nut to get  channelllock on or a vice grip.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
January 20, 2018 at 5:28 PM
Ever have a ball joint separate from the taper while you're trying to 
loosen the nut?
All 3 on my W163 did that. Track link I finished taking the nut off by 
using a jack to shove the taper together. That wasn't so bad. Upper 
ball joint nut jammed solid when there was only about one thread left 
exposed above it. Had to cut the nut off. My fault for forcing it when 
it started getting hard to turn.


The lower ball joint started spinning as soon as I started turning the 
nut.
I can torque it back down with the air wrench, loosen it a half turn 
or so and then it starts spinning the stud again. Figured I could rock 
it back and forth, since the nut was moving a little. 20 
tighten/loosen cycles later and no change, I gave up on that idea.


Any idea how to get this thing apart, aside from grinding the flange 
off the nut so I can get my nut splitter on it? I'm about ready to 
give up for now, shoot it with Kroil every weekend until April, and 
deal with it then.



Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

that is just sick.  When they wanted $60k for a dissel gran cherokee, I 
told em they were crazy!  For that money, I'd buy a MB.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
January 20, 2018 at 8:55 AM
I was in a new Jeep Grand Cherokee the other day. Sticker price was $92k



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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:53:06 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no
> thermostat

The best way is to put in a blocked-open thermostat, otherwise you do
not get full flow through the radiator.

 
> On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
> > Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure
> > there is good flow through the whole system.

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[MBZ] Retirement

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

My grandfather, born 1900, was retired from the Kent Constabulary in 1965,and, 
after 6 months at home, my grandmother brought him his hat and coat saying 
"Don't come back until you have a job."

He took a Custodian of Quarters position for the Met. and worked for another 23 
years, outliving my grandmother.

Retirement is not for the faint hearted.

My only real gripe is that everybody in my family thinks that I'm doing 
nothing, so feel free to steal my time for their projects! (And resent being 
told no. or hell no!)


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

New hood and fenders and what else?


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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Subject: [MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

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Re: [MBZ] Not sure what to say about this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I say Shirley would rather drive the white SDL.

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Re: [MBZ] W163 and ball joints

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I vote for grinder, nut splitter, hacksaw, etc.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 20, 2018 6:28:17 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Ever have a ball joint separate from the taper while you're trying to
>loosen the nut?
>All 3 on my W163 did that. Track link I finished taking the nut off by
>using a jack to shove the taper together. That wasn't so bad. Upper
>ball joint nut jammed solid when there was only about one thread left
>exposed above it. Had to cut the nut off. My fault for forcing it when
>it started getting hard to turn.  
>
>The lower ball joint started spinning as soon as I started turning the
>nut. 
>I can torque it back down with the air wrench, loosen it a half turn or
>so and then it starts spinning the stud again. Figured I could rock it
>back and forth, since the nut was moving a little. 20 tighten/loosen
>cycles later and no change, I gave up on that idea. 
>
>Any idea how to get this thing apart, aside from grinding the flange
>off the nut so I can get my nut splitter on it? I'm about ready to give
>up for now, shoot it with Kroil every weekend until April, and deal
>with it then. 
>
>
>Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Not sure what to say about this

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes but the decals are priceless.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 20, 2018 8:45 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The roof is toast?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 1981 Mercedes-Benz 240D
> >
> > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Not my idea of a meaningful life. I have a good friend my age  who saved &
planned so he retired,at 56- 16 years ago.   no  appeal for me- his life
looks boring to me.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 20, 2018 8:57 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The parents of a woman I work with retired in their early 50s.  They
> planned carefully and saved, so they were able to bail when they were like
> 53.  Neither parent has anything significant they do with their time.  When
> asked what the best part of retirement is, dad says, “Not having to get up
> and go to work in the morning….”
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've heard of that before, but can't imagine it. I have way too many
> > projects going to get bored. SWMBO makes us take a day off every two or
> > three weeks - says we're working too hard. Of course, my "day "doesn't
> > start till after noon . . .
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It is. Maybe the newest models might need the g48 but g05 is still approved

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4matic
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Jan 20, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> That’s the honey colored stuff.  The current MB AF is blue.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 
 Not sure what you mean
>>> 
>>> I hope he means Zerex G-05.
>>> But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI

On Jan 20, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That’s the honey colored stuff.  The current MB AF is blue.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Not sure what you mean
> >
> > I hope he means Zerex G-05.
> > But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Might be nice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah - NM is way outside the rust belt.

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> 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300SDL
>
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Re: [MBZ] I think Jaime needs this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If it's a complete car, might be worth it for parts.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 62 Mercedes Benz 220se coupe
>
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Re: [MBZ] Meth

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not even good quality meth.  Second hand stuff.

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> 1987 Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Was Andrew needs a dually truck - Now Retirement

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, but I couldn't resist the temptation.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Dwight Giles 
wrote:

> Eee bad
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Jan 20, 2018 6:42 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Mme. DeFarge?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > My dad retired at 72. Immediately started working on a handicap
>> > accessibility project for the Rod & Gun club. They got a grant from the
>> > state. Got that done and immediately they got a federal grant for an
>> indoor
>> > airgun range which he's been working on for I think 2 years. He says
>> this
>> > is the last one, if he'd billed them for his work it'd be more than the
>> > building would cost. The amount of hoops they've had to jump through is
>> > astounding...
>> > My mother on the other hand sits home and knits socks. I'm a little
>> > worried about her.
>> >
>> > -Curt
>> >
>> >
>> > On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:45:42 PM EST, Dwight Giles via
>> > Mercedes  wrote:
>> >
>> >  I retired in May 2016 but have continued to work part time since then.
>> > Will take a break this summer and fall. My Father retired at 70 and then
>> > worked part time until he was 85.
>> > Got a new book from Amazon this week-might explain some things.
>> > https://www.amazon.com/Unretirement-Boomers-Changing-
>> > Think-Community/dp/1632863235
>> >
>> >
>> > Dwight Giles Jr.
>> > Wickford RI
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Yeah, I don’t think the County has a mandatory retirement age.  A lot
>> > > depends on what’s going on with the spouse. Her health isn’t nearly as
>> > good
>> > > as mine, so whatever shape she’s in might dictate what my exit
>> strategy
>> > > ends up to be.
>> > >
>> > > -D
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of
>> > > service was 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were
>> > going
>> > > to do once they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they
>> > did.
>> > > >
>> > > > My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a
>> > > gold watch and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was
>> still 70
>> > > when he died in his easy chair.
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Re: [MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

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This,was the best car I have ever owned in 55 years of driving.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

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As much as they say they spend on it I would hope it was a new engine and not a 
used one.

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:13 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote: 
> 
> Depends on what they mean by engine was replaced. Was it a new engine or
> from a wrecked car? I replaced the engine in a W115 300D with a factory new
> long block. I was surprised at how bare that engine was - block, head,
> water pump, injection pump and injectors might have been all.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:03 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Diesel engine? Could get that cruddy in six years, I s'pose.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

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Depends on what they mean by engine was replaced. Was it a new engine or
from a wrecked car? I replaced the engine in a W115 300D with a factory new
long block. I was surprised at how bare that engine was - block, head,
water pump, injection pump and injectors might have been all.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:03 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> Diesel engine? Could get that cruddy in six years, I s'pose.
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 1991 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Right. It’s not worth the $10 extra per gallon for any of my cars. 

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> wrote:
> 
> That’s the honey colored stuff.  The current MB AF is blue.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not sure what you mean
>> 
>> I hope he means Zerex G-05.
>> But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

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Diesel engine? Could get that cruddy in six years, I s'pose.

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Re: [MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Engine rebuilt is 2012 hasn't been washed in 6 years of driving...
looks about right for that.

I've found that few folks ever think about cleaning up the engine
compartment.

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> 1991 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

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The parents of a woman I work with retired in their early 50s.  They planned 
carefully and saved, so they were able to bail when they were like 53.  Neither 
parent has anything significant they do with their time.  When asked what the 
best part of retirement is, dad says, “Not having to get up and go to work in 
the morning….”

-D


> On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've heard of that before, but can't imagine it. I have way too many
> projects going to get bored. SWMBO makes us take a day off every two or
> three weeks - says we're working too hard. Of course, my "day "doesn't
> start till after noon . . .
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[MBZ] Could be nice but engine seems dirty for a supposed new engine

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

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I've heard of that before, but can't imagine it. I have way too many
projects going to get bored. SWMBO makes us take a day off every two or
three weeks - says we're working too hard. Of course, my "day "doesn't
start till after noon . . .

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Yes I have failed retirement so far.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Jan 20, 2018 2:22 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> > Yup. Shutdown stinks.
> >
> > I love my job, so much that I consistently end up selling vacation time
> > back to the County every year.
> >
> > I’m dreading retirement, as I fear I’ll be bored out of my mind.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > If there's a government shutdown, I expect each of you to contribute
> > lavishly to my GoFundMe account. Just kidding. Eventually, we will get
> paid
> > for the Lost Time. By the way, this is not my idea of a vacation. I enjoy
> > my job.
> > >
> > >> On Jan 20, 2018 8:03 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> Could be like me - I work 6:30 am to 3:30 pm.  And that’s when I’m not
> > working from home.  Our management says we need to work from home more to
> > save money and resources.
> > >>
> > >> I figure I still have a good half a day left when I get off work.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >> > On Jan 19, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > I actually worked late today.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> So, do you folks think that Andrew's employment with the government
> > has
> > >> >> anything to do with the fact that he does not appear to be around
> on
> > Friday
> > >> >> afternoon?
> > >> >> It is about 12 minutes to 5 here and I am still in my office.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> RB
> > >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[OK Don via Mercedes]

You need to have citric acid on hand - for cleaning auto cooling systems,
removing mineral deposits from the dishwasher, coffee pot, tea kettle, etc.
(I'm guessing that your water is rather hard like ours is).

http://www.chemistrystore.com/Chemicals_A-F-Citric_Acid_Anhydrous.html
(where I've bought it before)
or
https://www.amazon.com/Milliard-Citric-Acid-Pound-NON-GMO/dp/B00GNBHPAS/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8=1516499235=8-2-spons=citric+acid+anhydrous=1


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> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started
> disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed
> some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while.
> Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it
> since that is what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back
> into shop and wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I
> thought I had a new thermostat around here but all I can find are used ones.
>
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> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
> >> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
> >> everyone’s preferred method?
> >
> > 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Not sure what to say about this

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The roof is toast?

-D


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> 
> 1981 Mercedes-Benz 240D
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[MBZ] Not sure what to say about this

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[MBZ] OUCH.

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https://jalopnik.com/automated-parking-lift-nightmarishly-smashes-this-guys-1822232565

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[MBZ] Might be nice

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[MBZ] I think Jaime needs this

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[MBZ] Meth

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s the honey colored stuff.  The current MB AF is blue.

-D


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> 
>> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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>> 
>> Not sure what you mean
> 
> I hope he means Zerex G-05.
> But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[OK Don via Mercedes]

When we bought our F150XL (~$28k with electric windows, IIRC) the sales
manager called the fancy trucks "pretty boy trucks". I'd told him I wanted
a working truck to haul stuff, and didn't care what it looked like. We
scratched the bed the second day we owned loading/unloading a 60 gal air
compressor. Didn't bother me a bit.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> $27k XL is a 2wd, its dammed hard to get a 4wd under $30k.
> To be fair heated seats are pretty terrific when you've been out hunting
> and are frozen pretty much to the bone. Just before the end of the year I
> went hunting with a big group, it was in the single digits pretty much the
> whole time, from about -6F to about 8F and the heated seats get warm a lot
> faster than the rest of the cab...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 2:21:18 AM EST, Curley McLain via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  The  $50,000 to $60,000 peekups with all the "luxury" trim/interior such
> as the frod "platinum" "limited" "SVT Raptor" and "King Ranch"  are
> what I classify as wussywagons.  They are not meant for work, but to
> show off the owners wealth or to stroke the owners ego, or to satisfy
> the wife while doing one of the former..  The "platinum" is definitely
> trimmed to sell to the female market.  To be fair, pretty much all cars,
> MB included are targeted at the female market.  There may be some
> argument about the king ranch, but with a price tag over $50,000,
> leather steering wheel cover, heated seats, etc, it definitely has
> options that fall into the wussy category.  Each of these would be
> competing with a MB/nissan pickup.
>
> I am not picking on frod, because GM, dodge, toada and nissan all offer
> products with similar fru-fru.  I am more familiar with their trim levels.
>
> When you compare the $50k-60k wagens to the $27k ford F150 XL, can you
> honestly tell me a "limited or "platinum" is worth twice as much
> money?  Will they get twice as much MPG?  Will they last twice as
> long?  Will they carry twice as much?  Do they have some combination of
> the 3 that justifies being worth twice as much?
>
> The gummit meddling in the vehicle market has driven people away from
> cars and into peekups.  The carmakers are not stupid.  they are just
> capitalizing on the weaknesses of people and what their gummit has
> taxed/regulated them into.
>
> > Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > January 19, 2018 at 10:40 AM
> >
> >
> > What would you consider to not be a wussywagon? A Unimog?
> > I cannot see myself doing long trips at highway speeds in one of those.
> >
> >
> > I suggest that the 4WD 1/2 ton crew cab pickups are the best thing
> > since sliced bread. Basically, a big sedan with a huge trunk. Haul
> > people and/or loads of lumber etc and pull a trailer behind too if
> > need be. The biggest disadvantage is parking them.
> >
> > I don't need 3/4 ton capacity so not much point in hauling the extra
> > weight around. Would consider a diesel if I needed it and could
> > justify it but I cannot.
> >
> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Wait, you have some critical function in the government?

clay 

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If there's a government shutdown, I expect each of you to contribute
> lavishly to my GoFundMe account. Just kidding. Eventually, we will get paid
> for the Lost Time. By the way, this is not my idea of a vacation. I enjoy
> my job.
> 
> On Jan 20, 2018 8:03 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Could be like me - I work 6:30 am to 3:30 pm.  And that’s when I’m not
>> working from home.  Our management says we need to work from home more to
>> save money and resources.
>> 
>> I figure I still have a good half a day left when I get off work.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I actually worked late today.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 So, do you folks think that Andrew's employment with the government has
 anything to do with the fact that he does not appear to be around on
>> Friday
 afternoon?
 It is about 12 minutes to 5 here and I am still in my office.
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well I have not filled it up yet because I have to wait for a thermostat 
to arrive.  I only use G05



On 1/20/2018 6:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:


Not sure what you mean

I hope he means Zerex G-05.
But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Was Andrew needs a dually truck - Now Retirement

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Eee bad

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 20, 2018 6:42 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mme. DeFarge?
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > My dad retired at 72. Immediately started working on a handicap
> > accessibility project for the Rod & Gun club. They got a grant from the
> > state. Got that done and immediately they got a federal grant for an
> indoor
> > airgun range which he's been working on for I think 2 years. He says this
> > is the last one, if he'd billed them for his work it'd be more than the
> > building would cost. The amount of hoops they've had to jump through is
> > astounding...
> > My mother on the other hand sits home and knits socks. I'm a little
> > worried about her.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:45:42 PM EST, Dwight Giles via
> > Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >  I retired in May 2016 but have continued to work part time since then.
> > Will take a break this summer and fall. My Father retired at 70 and then
> > worked part time until he was 85.
> > Got a new book from Amazon this week-might explain some things.
> > https://www.amazon.com/Unretirement-Boomers-Changing-
> > Think-Community/dp/1632863235
> >
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, I don’t think the County has a mandatory retirement age.  A lot
> > > depends on what’s going on with the spouse. Her health isn’t nearly as
> > good
> > > as mine, so whatever shape she’s in might dictate what my exit strategy
> > > ends up to be.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of
> > > service was 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were
> > going
> > > to do once they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they
> > did.
> > > >
> > > > My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a
> > > gold watch and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was still
> 70
> > > when he died in his easy chair.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not sure what you mean

I hope he means Zerex G-05.
But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Not sure what you mean.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Next time refill with Zerex coolant.
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is
>>> good flow through the whole system.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
 little easier.
 
 I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose
 nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
 heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
 heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

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> On January 20, 2018 at 6:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> And I presume you aren’t being paid while you’re taking your “vacation”?  
> When the County was cutting back, we called those “furlough days”.

I think they get paid later after the debt ceiling that nobody wants to stay 
under gets lifted again. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

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> On January 20, 2018 at 6:29 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The stupid part is that feds get a free vacation no one even asked for.
> What a waste.

But if it helps Chuckie Schumer negotiate perks for illegal aliens, it's worth 
it.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And I presume you aren’t being paid while you’re taking your “vacation”?  When 
the County was cutting back, we called those “furlough days”.

-D


> On Jan 20, 2018, at 6:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The stupid part is that feds get a free vacation no one even asked for.
> What a waste.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Next time refill with Zerex coolant.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat
>
>
>
> On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is
>> good flow through the whole system.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
>>> little easier.
>>>
>>> I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose

>>> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
>>> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through
>>> the
>>> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
>>>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Was Andrew needs a dually truck - Now Retirement

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Mme. DeFarge?

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My dad retired at 72. Immediately started working on a handicap
> accessibility project for the Rod & Gun club. They got a grant from the
> state. Got that done and immediately they got a federal grant for an indoor
> airgun range which he's been working on for I think 2 years. He says this
> is the last one, if he'd billed them for his work it'd be more than the
> building would cost. The amount of hoops they've had to jump through is
> astounding...
> My mother on the other hand sits home and knits socks. I'm a little
> worried about her.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:45:42 PM EST, Dwight Giles via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  I retired in May 2016 but have continued to work part time since then.
> Will take a break this summer and fall. My Father retired at 70 and then
> worked part time until he was 85.
> Got a new book from Amazon this week-might explain some things.
> https://www.amazon.com/Unretirement-Boomers-Changing-
> Think-Community/dp/1632863235
>
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I don’t think the County has a mandatory retirement age.  A lot
> > depends on what’s going on with the spouse. Her health isn’t nearly as
> good
> > as mine, so whatever shape she’s in might dictate what my exit strategy
> > ends up to be.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of
> > service was 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were
> going
> > to do once they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they
> did.
> > >
> > > My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a
> > gold watch and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was still 70
> > when he died in his easy chair.
> > >
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[MBZ] Dimitri would NOT approve

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This gorgeous 3.5 coupe was originally tobacco brown.  With a sunroof it
would sell for $150k.  Without, maybe 105,000.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-mercedes-benz-280se-3-5-coupe/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-01-20

My moss green 3.5 coupe was almost as nice (originally anthracite gray) and
had a sunroof, but had been modified/improved.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The stupid part is that feds get a free vacation no one even asked for.
What a waste.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes there are a lot of stories like that.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Jan 20, 2018 4:09 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes"  >
> wrote:
>
>
> > On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of service
> was 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were going to do
> once they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they did.
>
> My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a gold
> watch and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was still 70 when
> he died in his easy chair.
>
> Mitch.
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[MBZ] W163 and ball joints

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Ever have a ball joint separate from the taper while you're trying to loosen 
the nut?
All 3 on my W163 did that. Track link I finished taking the nut off by using a 
jack to shove the taper together. That wasn't so bad. Upper ball joint nut 
jammed solid when there was only about one thread left exposed above it. Had to 
cut the nut off. My fault for forcing it when it started getting hard to turn.  

The lower ball joint started spinning as soon as I started turning the nut. 
I can torque it back down with the air wrench, loosen it a half turn or so and 
then it starts spinning the stud again. Figured I could rock it back and forth, 
since the nut was moving a little. 20 tighten/loosen cycles later and no 
change, I gave up on that idea. 

Any idea how to get this thing apart, aside from grinding the flange off the 
nut so I can get my nut splitter on it? I'm about ready to give up for now, 
shoot it with Kroil every weekend until April, and deal with it then. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes there are a lot of stories like that.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 20, 2018 4:09 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 
wrote:


> On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of service
was 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were going to do
once they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they did.

My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a gold
watch and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was still 70 when
he died in his easy chair.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 accelerator cable

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Google is your friend, buddy:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1735049-throttle-cable-replacement.html

-D


> On Jan 20, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> I have never messed with the accelerator cable on a 124.  I need to replace 
> the one on the 95 E300.  New ones are $50-60.  Is it worth messing with 
> pulling a used one off another car or should I go new?  I have never had to 
> replace one so I was not sure if these broke frequently.  Mine is stripped 
> out on the adjuster end at the engine linkage.
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[MBZ] 124 accelerator cable

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have never messed with the accelerator cable on a 124.  I need to 
replace the one on the 95 E300.  New ones are $50-60.  Is it worth 
messing with pulling a used one off another car or should I go new?  I 
have never had to replace one so I was not sure if these broke 
frequently.  Mine is stripped out on the adjuster end at the engine linkage.



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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Limo: 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300D

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

You should buy it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 20, 2018 5:53 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, that pile of crap is back.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat


On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is
good flow through the whole system.

Jaime


On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
little easier.

I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.

Sent from my iPhone


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The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose

nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Limo: 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300D

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Yes, that pile of crap is back.


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[MBZ] Diesel Limo: 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is
good flow through the whole system.

Jaime


On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
> little easier.
>
> I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose
> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Was Andrew needs a dually truck - Now Retirement

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My dad retired at 72. Immediately started working on a handicap accessibility 
project for the Rod & Gun club. They got a grant from the state. Got that done 
and immediately they got a federal grant for an indoor airgun range which he's 
been working on for I think 2 years. He says this is the last one, if he'd 
billed them for his work it'd be more than the building would cost. The amount 
of hoops they've had to jump through is astounding...
My mother on the other hand sits home and knits socks. I'm a little worried 
about her.

-Curt
 

On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:45:42 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I retired in May 2016 but have continued to work part time since then.
Will take a break this summer and fall. My Father retired at 70 and then
worked part time until he was 85.
Got a new book from Amazon this week-might explain some things.
https://www.amazon.com/Unretirement-Boomers-Changing-Think-Community/dp/1632863235


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> Yeah, I don’t think the County has a mandatory retirement age.  A lot
> depends on what’s going on with the spouse. Her health isn’t nearly as good
> as mine, so whatever shape she’s in might dictate what my exit strategy
> ends up to be.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of
> service was 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were going
> to do once they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they did.
> >
> > My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a
> gold watch and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was still 70
> when he died in his easy chair.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Was Andrew needs a dually truck - Now Retirement

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I retired in May 2016 but have continued to work part time since then.
Will take a break this summer and fall. My Father retired at 70 and then
worked part time until he was 85.
Got a new book from Amazon this week-might explain some things.
https://www.amazon.com/Unretirement-Boomers-Changing-Think-Community/dp/1632863235


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> Yeah, I don’t think the County has a mandatory retirement age.  A lot
> depends on what’s going on with the spouse. Her health isn’t nearly as good
> as mine, so whatever shape she’s in might dictate what my exit strategy
> ends up to be.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of
> service was 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were going
> to do once they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they did.
> >
> > My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a
> gold watch and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was still 70
> when he died in his easy chair.
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a 
little easier.

I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose 
> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the 
> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the 
> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Well I just finished it up and pulled it back in the shop. Looking down in the 
radiator cap opening the top fins of the radiator look sparkling clean. I will 
say when I flushed it again after running the prestone in it a lot more junk 
came out, then on the next flush it was pretty clear. I would say this stuff 
seems to work ok. 

I am simply amazed at how dead simple these cars are.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I read about that but did not do it. It does not seem oily. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent 
>> (not dish soap) in?
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the 
>> line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran 
>> hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice 
>> so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the 
>> other hose coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this 
>> a couple more times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or 
>> should I wait until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is 
>> really bad.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got 
>> > to the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - 
>> > the stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same 
>> > thing.  I use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that 
>> > needs a good degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
>> > 
>> > That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, 
>> > and didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just 
>> > flush with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the 
>> > coolant.
>> > 
>> > -D
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started 
>> >> disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then 
>> >> flushed some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine 
>> >> for a while. Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I 
>> >> will put in it since that is what I have. I will then flush it again. 
>> >> Drain then pull back into shop and wait for new thermostat to arrive then 
>> >> fill with g05. I thought I had a new thermostat around here but all I can 
>> >> find are used ones. 
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>> 
>>  Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
>>  seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
>>  everyone’s preferred method? 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose nozzle 
that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the heater core 
and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the heater and the 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Was Andrew needs a dually truck - Now Retirement

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Yeah, I don’t think the County has a mandatory retirement age.  A lot depends 
on what’s going on with the spouse. Her health isn’t nearly as good as mine, so 
whatever shape she’s in might dictate what my exit strategy ends up to be.

-D


> On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of service was 
>> 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were going to do once 
>> they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they did. 
> 
> My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a gold 
> watch and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was still 70 when he 
> died in his easy chair. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

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> On January 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of service was 
> 28 years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were going to do once 
> they retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they did. 

My grandpa Haley drove a snowplow for the state DOT. They gave him a gold watch 
and shoved him out the door when he turned 70. He was still 70 when he died in 
his easy chair. 

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I read about that but did not do it. It does not seem oily. 

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent 
> (not dish soap) in?
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the 
> line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran 
> hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice 
> so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the 
> other hose coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this 
> a couple more times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or 
> should I wait until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is 
> really bad.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got 
> > to the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - 
> > the stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same 
> > thing.  I use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that 
> > needs a good degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
> > 
> > That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, 
> > and didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just 
> > flush with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the 
> > coolant.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started 
> >> disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then 
> >> flushed some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for 
> >> a while. Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will 
> >> put in it since that is what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain 
> >> then pull back into shop and wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill 
> >> with g05. I thought I had a new thermostat around here but all I can find 
> >> are used ones. 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
>  Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
>  seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
>  everyone’s preferred method? 
> >>> 
> >>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
> >>> 
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I spoke too soon. After flushing it the 2nd time while running it came out 
clear. I put the prestone in it and it’s running again for another 20 minutes. 
Will then flush it again and call it good.

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the 
> line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran 
> hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice 
> so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the 
> other hose coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this 
> a couple more times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or 
> should I wait until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is 
> really bad.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got 
>> to the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - 
>> the stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same 
>> thing.  I use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that 
>> needs a good degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
>> 
>> That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, and 
>> didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just flush 
>> with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the coolant.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started 
>>> disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed 
>>> some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. 
>>> Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it 
>>> since that is what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back 
>>> into shop and wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I 
>>> thought I had a new thermostat around here but all I can find are used 
>>> ones. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
  wrote:
 
> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
> everyone’s preferred method? 
 
 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would wait until you get clear water, or it’s just going to be crudded up 
(still), just not as bad as before.  I would flush it from the hose on the back 
of the engine with the radiator cap off.  Run water through it for 5-10 
minutes, then close it up and run it and check.

My 82 300SD had a cooling system like this - it looked like orangish mud.  Took 
quite a while to flush it out.


-D

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the 
> line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran 
> hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice 
> so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the 
> other hose coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this 
> a couple more times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or 
> should I wait until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is 
> really bad.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent 
(not dish soap) in?
-Curt
 

On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line 
going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran hose into 
the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice so far and 
each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the other hose 
coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this a couple more 
times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or should I wait 
until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is really bad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got to 
> the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - the 
> stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same thing.  I 
> use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that needs a good 
> degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
> 
> That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, and 
> didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just flush 
> with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the coolant.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
>> hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now 
>> I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush 
>> it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is 
>> what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and 
>> wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new 
>> thermostat around here but all I can find are used ones. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
 seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
 everyone’s preferred method? 
>>> 
>>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line 
going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran hose into 
the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice so far and 
each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the other hose 
coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this a couple more 
times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or should I wait 
until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is really bad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got to 
> the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - the 
> stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same thing.  I 
> use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that needs a good 
> degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
> 
> That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, and 
> didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just flush 
> with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the coolant.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
>> hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now 
>> I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush 
>> it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is 
>> what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and 
>> wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new 
>> thermostat around here but all I can find are used ones. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
 seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
 everyone’s preferred method? 
>>> 
>>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

From what I saw when I was at Kohler where the average length of service was 28 
years, if people didn’t have a plan for what they were going to do once they 
retired they didn’t seem to last very long after they did.  These were people 
who were retiring with like 40, 50 and even 60 years of service in the same 
company.  In most cases they had lots of family and friends in the area, which 
certainly helps.

When it gets closer I’m sure I’ll have some volunteer work set up on a regular 
basis.  That will help.

-D


> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Yes I have failed retirement so far. 
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Jan 20, 2018 2:22 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  > wrote:
> Yup. Shutdown stinks.
> 
> I love my job, so much that I consistently end up selling vacation time back 
> to the County every year.
> 
> I’m dreading retirement, as I fear I’ll be bored out of my mind.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  > > wrote:
> >
> > If there's a government shutdown, I expect each of you to contribute 
> > lavishly to my GoFundMe account. Just kidding. Eventually, we will get paid 
> > for the Lost Time. By the way, this is not my idea of a vacation. I enjoy 
> > my job.
> >
> >> On Jan 20, 2018 8:03 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  >> > wrote:
> >> Could be like me - I work 6:30 am to 3:30 pm.  And that’s when I’m not 
> >> working from home.  Our management says we need to work from home more to 
> >> save money and resources.
> >>
> >> I figure I still have a good half a day left when I get off work.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> > On Jan 19, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I actually worked late today.
> >> >
> >> > On Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
> >> > >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So, do you folks think that Andrew's employment with the government has
> >> >> anything to do with the fact that he does not appear to be around on 
> >> >> Friday
> >> >> afternoon?
> >> >> It is about 12 minutes to 5 here and I am still in my office.
> >> >>
> >> >> RB
> >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got to 
the store and buy a sh*tload of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - the stuff 
in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same thing.  I use it 
for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that needs a good 
degreasing/cleaning once in a while.

That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, and 
didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just flush with 
clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the coolant.

-D


 
> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
> hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now 
> I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush 
> it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is what 
> I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and wait 
> for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new 
> thermostat around here but all I can find are used ones. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
>>> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
>>> everyone’s preferred method? 
>> 
>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now I 
filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush it 
again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is what I 
have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and wait for 
new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new thermostat 
around here but all I can find are used ones. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
>> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
>> everyone’s preferred method? 
> 
> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
> everyone’s preferred method? 

10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.


Craig

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[MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever seen. I 
need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is everyone’s 
preferred method? 

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] OT FOR WILTON

[WILTON via Mercedes]

This recent thread is evidently related to my "TWO STRANGERS" post in July,
2014, in which I related my story of two young men who lived with my 
family

for several weeks in the summer of 1944.  I did not realize it then, but I
now feel confident that they were very likely German POW's.

Here's a link discussing such POW's in NC
https://www.ncpedia.org/history/20th-Century/wwii-pows

Note that main camps for the POW's were Fort Bragg (south of our home in
1944), Camp Butner (NW of our home in '44) and Camp McCall (SW of our home
in '44), but several smaller camps (New Bern, Edenton, Williamston,
Wilmington, Ahoskie) were generally east of us.  The farm is located 5 
miles
west of Spring Hope on US highway 64, at that time a main east-west 
corridor

running generally through the middle of the state the entire distance from
Manteo on the coast nearly 600 miles to the SW corner of the state.  The
entire route has been significantly upgraded and/or replaced and
supplemented by multi-lane, limited access super highways, such as I-40 
and

I-85, but many parts of the 1944 highway are still in use.  The two men in
1944 were traveling westward from somewhere east of our farm.

Following is a re-post of the original:

TWO STRANGERS (VISITORS)

   One Saturday afternoon in early summer, Carson, then nearly 18 and
driving the car, Daddy and I, then 10, were returning home after grocery
shopping in Spring Hope.  We came upon two young men in their early
twenties, standing by the road trying to “hitch” a ride.  We stopped for
them, and they got into the back seat with me.  They were thin, dirty &
unshaven and had no luggage or baggage - no package of any sort - that I
remember.  They said that they had not had a meal in several days and had
been eating green, raw corn from the fields by the road. They told us that
they were from New Jersey and just “bumming” around the country on an
“adventure.”  Because tobacco harvest time was just beginning, and labor 
was
in short supply, Daddy made a deal with them to stay with us for the 
summer

and help with the harvest.
   They had never been on a farm before, but learned quickly, seeming to
enjoy all of it, especially when I would let them “drive” the mules 
pulling
the small tobacco trucks back and forth from the fields to the curing 
barn.

At times, however, they wanted the mules to go too fast for our safety and
the animals’ good health.  Once, when one of them was driving the mule
pulling an empty tobacco trunk along the side of the busy, paved highway,
and I was in the truck with him, he was making the mule run.  Suddenly, 
the
mule bolted onto the pavement in front of an approaching Trailways bus! 
The
bus driver and I stared into each other’s terrified eyes as the bus 
skidded

toward us and stopped close enough for me to reach out and touch the front
of it.  Every day I’ve had since that day has been a bonus.
   The visitors and I soon became good friends and were often “alone” -
just the three of us.  Almost every time we were “alone,” one of them 
would
ask me if I spoke German, sometimes pressing me with,  “Are you sure you 
don’t

speak German?”  Of course, I, a ten-year-old farm boy in eastern North
Carolina in 1944, did not speak German.  After being assured each time 
that
I did not speak German, they would go into a private & lengthy 
conversation

in German.  Until a few years ago, I had never told anybody else in the
family about these conversations in German and their insistence that I not
be able to understand them.  They never spoke German around others in the
family, and I was too young and naïve to suspect anything other than what
they had told us, but I now feel certain that the two young men were,
indeed, German.
   The two visitors were with us for six or eight weeks ‘til Daddy began 
to

suspect that he may have been harboring “draft dodgers” and asked them to
leave.  They left our lives as suddenly as they had entered.  Meanwhile,
they had become part of our family - ate with us, slept in our house, wore
my brothers’ clothes, etc. - a relaxed & comfortable part of the family.
Though they became such a part of the family for that short time, I do not
remember their names; I vaguely remember that one was blond and the other
darker.
   Years later, after I had gained some knowledge of German, and learned
that there had been German prisoner-of-war camps in eastern North Carolina
and German ships/submarines had been sunk near the coast, I realized that
these two were most likely escaped German prisoners of war or even 
survivors
from a sunken German ship.  There were times many years ago, while 
watching

a movie with German speakers or someone speaking English with a German
accent, when I would feel that I had heard certain sounds and accent 
before,
finally realizing and remembering that I had heard them in 1944 from our 
two

visitors.
   How ironic that these two lived with us in friendship while two of my
brothers were at war trying to rid the 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I have failed retirement so far.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 20, 2018 2:22 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Yup. Shutdown stinks.
>
> I love my job, so much that I consistently end up selling vacation time
> back to the County every year.
>
> I’m dreading retirement, as I fear I’ll be bored out of my mind.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > If there's a government shutdown, I expect each of you to contribute
> lavishly to my GoFundMe account. Just kidding. Eventually, we will get paid
> for the Lost Time. By the way, this is not my idea of a vacation. I enjoy
> my job.
> >
> >> On Jan 20, 2018 8:03 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Could be like me - I work 6:30 am to 3:30 pm.  And that’s when I’m not
> working from home.  Our management says we need to work from home more to
> save money and resources.
> >>
> >> I figure I still have a good half a day left when I get off work.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> > On Jan 19, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I actually worked late today.
> >> >
> >> > On Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So, do you folks think that Andrew's employment with the government
> has
> >> >> anything to do with the fact that he does not appear to be around on
> Friday
> >> >> afternoon?
> >> >> It is about 12 minutes to 5 here and I am still in my office.
> >> >>
> >> >> RB
> >> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup. Shutdown stinks.

I love my job, so much that I consistently end up selling vacation time back to 
the County every year.

I’m dreading retirement, as I fear I’ll be bored out of my mind.

-D

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> If there's a government shutdown, I expect each of you to contribute lavishly 
> to my GoFundMe account. Just kidding. Eventually, we will get paid for the 
> Lost Time. By the way, this is not my idea of a vacation. I enjoy my job.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018 8:03 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
>> wrote:
>> Could be like me - I work 6:30 am to 3:30 pm.  And that’s when I’m not 
>> working from home.  Our management says we need to work from home more to 
>> save money and resources.
>> 
>> I figure I still have a good half a day left when I get off work.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Jan 19, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > I actually worked late today.
>> >
>> > On Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> So, do you folks think that Andrew's employment with the government has
>> >> anything to do with the fact that he does not appear to be around on 
>> >> Friday
>> >> afternoon?
>> >> It is about 12 minutes to 5 here and I am still in my office.
>> >>
>> >> RB
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] ATF - Pink Milkshake

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its a pretty good video and his shot of contaminated fluid looks just like 
mine. I wonder if his test strips are doing coolant (glycol) or just water. I'm 
pretty sure our problem is just water. I know its not coolant from the engine 
since this is hydraulic oil and its not cooled by the engine. Still not sure 
how the water got in there...

-Curt
 

On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 1:10:16 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 A recent list discussion addressed de-watering ATF that looked pink from water 
contamination.

 

I just saw a couple YouTube videos that addressed this if caused by coolant 
contamination via the transmission cooler in the radiator.  See:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW4YbQVY7yo 
 =731s

 

The important messages were (1) this will ruin the tranny and (2) there is an 
easy and cheap way to test for coolant contamination in the ATF.

 

Maybe I’m just gullible, but this looke legit to me.

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[MBZ] ATF - Pink Milkshake

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

A recent list discussion addressed de-watering ATF that looked pink from water 
contamination.

 

I just saw a couple YouTube videos that addressed this if caused by coolant 
contamination via the transmission cooler in the radiator.  See:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW4YbQVY7yo 
 =731s

 

The important messages were (1) this will ruin the tranny and (2) there is an 
easy and cheap way to test for coolant contamination in the ATF.

 

Maybe I’m just gullible, but this looke legit to me.

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Re: [MBZ] Watch "Multimeter Tips & Tricks" on YouTube

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Oh geez, when I replied before I didn't realize it was a This Old Tony video. I 
watch a bunch of his stuff. Don't think I'd seen this one.

-Curt
 

On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 12:47:33 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 08:59:39 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://youtu.be/uFTQxWlMGeE
> 
> I did not know about half of these.  Good to bookmark for those with
> questions about using a multimeter.

I said to myself, "Self, maybe you don't know some of these tricks and
you might learn something." So, I started the video. After looking at it
for a while, I looked at the comments:

    Poppy Puppy1 year ago
    Have you managed to dislodge that tongue from your cheek yet?

    J Schlesinger10 months ago (edited)
    +Thisoldtony. Without Youtube, I imagine that Tony would just be some
    guy at a workbench who makes cool things and laughs at his own
    jokes and the rest of us would be worse-off. Cheers to Youtube
    for providing a platform for kooks like Tony and a place for those of
    us who find machinist humor to be our favorite comedic genre. Heck, I
    don't think I would have ever known that Machinist humor was a genre
    or my favorite genre without this channel. This is simultaneously the
    best and worst multimeter video ever made -- nice work. Here's to
    hoping for an April Fools Day 2017 video.

It's not what I was expecting ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If there's a government shutdown, I expect each of you to contribute
lavishly to my GoFundMe account. Just kidding. Eventually, we will get paid
for the Lost Time. By the way, this is not my idea of a vacation. I enjoy
my job.

On Jan 20, 2018 8:03 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Could be like me - I work 6:30 am to 3:30 pm.  And that’s when I’m not
> working from home.  Our management says we need to work from home more to
> save money and resources.
>
> I figure I still have a good half a day left when I get off work.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 19, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I actually worked late today.
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So, do you folks think that Andrew's employment with the government has
> >> anything to do with the fact that he does not appear to be around on
> Friday
> >> afternoon?
> >> It is about 12 minutes to 5 here and I am still in my office.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Watch "Multimeter Tips & Tricks" on YouTube

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 08:59:39 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://youtu.be/uFTQxWlMGeE
> 
> I did not know about half of these.  Good to bookmark for those with
> questions about using a multimeter.

I said to myself, "Self, maybe you don't know some of these tricks and
you might learn something." So, I started the video. After looking at it
for a while, I looked at the comments:

 Poppy Puppy1 year ago
 Have you managed to dislodge that tongue from your cheek yet?

 J Schlesinger10 months ago (edited)
 +Thisoldtony. Without Youtube, I imagine that Tony would just be some
 guy at a workbench who makes cool things and laughs at his own
 jokes and the rest of us would be worse-off. Cheers to Youtube
 for providing a platform for kooks like Tony and a place for those of
 us who find machinist humor to be our favorite comedic genre. Heck, I
 don't think I would have ever known that Machinist humor was a genre
 or my favorite genre without this channel. This is simultaneously the
 best and worst multimeter video ever made -- nice work. Here's to
 hoping for an April Fools Day 2017 video.

It's not what I was expecting ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] unburned diesel vapor

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

If the gasket behind the lift pump went bad, where it mates to the main
pump, wouldnt we be seeing engine oil?

There is a copper crush under the hand pump that would leak fuel.

On Jan 19, 2018 3:07 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That, plus tighten the lift pump, or put a new gasket behind it.  Since it
> was recently disturbed, it is the most likely source of the leak.
>
> Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>> January 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM
>> Max.
>>
>> On an 123 I'd look at the bottom or side plate for seepage.
>>
>> A general check for tightness too. (A little like an after flight check).
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>> Diesel preferred.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Watch "Multimeter Tips & Tricks" on YouTube

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

To go along with my 7 Lantern How-To videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt6BKdYkzd8=PLpXK_13A33EXecIDhmO3d2DZib_0_uu80

-Curt





On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 8:59:47 AM EST, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





https://youtu.be/uFTQxWlMGeE

I did not know about half of these.  Good to bookmark for those with
questions about using a multimeter.

Curt may find some inspiration for a  "how to" for driving the groomer or
such.
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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

$27k XL is a 2wd, its dammed hard to get a 4wd under $30k.
To be fair heated seats are pretty terrific when you've been out hunting and 
are frozen pretty much to the bone. Just before the end of the year I went 
hunting with a big group, it was in the single digits pretty much the whole 
time, from about -6F to about 8F and the heated seats get warm a lot faster 
than the rest of the cab...
-Curt
 

On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 2:21:18 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The  $50,000 to $60,000 peekups with all the "luxury" trim/interior such 
as the frod "platinum" "limited" "SVT Raptor" and "King Ranch"  are 
what I classify as wussywagons.  They are not meant for work, but to 
show off the owners wealth or to stroke the owners ego, or to satisfy 
the wife while doing one of the former..  The "platinum" is definitely 
trimmed to sell to the female market.  To be fair, pretty much all cars, 
MB included are targeted at the female market.  There may be some 
argument about the king ranch, but with a price tag over $50,000, 
leather steering wheel cover, heated seats, etc, it definitely has 
options that fall into the wussy category.  Each of these would be 
competing with a MB/nissan pickup.

I am not picking on frod, because GM, dodge, toada and nissan all offer 
products with similar fru-fru.  I am more familiar with their trim levels.

When you compare the $50k-60k wagens to the $27k ford F150 XL, can you 
honestly tell me a "limited or "platinum" is worth twice as much 
money?  Will they get twice as much MPG?  Will they last twice as 
long?  Will they carry twice as much?  Do they have some combination of 
the 3 that justifies being worth twice as much?

The gummit meddling in the vehicle market has driven people away from 
cars and into peekups.  The carmakers are not stupid.  they are just 
capitalizing on the weaknesses of people and what their gummit has 
taxed/regulated them into.

> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> January 19, 2018 at 10:40 AM
>
>
> What would you consider to not be a wussywagon? A Unimog?
> I cannot see myself doing long trips at highway speeds in one of those.
>
>
> I suggest that the 4WD 1/2 ton crew cab pickups are the best thing 
> since sliced bread. Basically, a big sedan with a huge trunk. Haul 
> people and/or loads of lumber etc and pull a trailer behind too if 
> need be. The biggest disadvantage is parking them.
>
> I don't need 3/4 ton capacity so not much point in hauling the extra 
> weight around. Would consider a diesel if I needed it and could 
> justify it but I cannot.
>
> RB

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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

I agree. I generally buy used. This red truck is only the 3rd new one ever and 
the previous one was 1977. Sure has been nice to have a vehicle that does not 
need anything. I am getting old and not nearly so anxious to work on them as I 
once was, especially in winter when most problems arise.


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-01-20  9:35 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment 
i sure like sub-10k vehicles, and I like 1500 to 2500 cars even better!

Spending near 100K on a cheep is NUTS!

of course few fools buy them, the lease them
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> January 20, 2018 at 8:55 AM
> I was in a new Jeep Grand Cherokee the other day. Sticker price was $92k

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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

i sure like sub-10k vehicles, and I like 1500 to 2500 cars even better!

Spending near 100K on a cheep is NUTS!

of course few fools buy them, the lease them

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
January 20, 2018 at 8:55 AM
I was in a new Jeep Grand Cherokee the other day. Sticker price was $92k


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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I was in a new Jeep Grand Cherokee the other day. Sticker price was $92k

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> my point exactly!
> 
> My standard question is "How much Mercedes can I buy for that money?"   
> except for as simple a van I can find, the question has always led to no sale 
> or buying another old MB.   The new MBs have destroyed the resale value and 
> reliability, and the crypsler people destroyed parts availability and cost,, 
> so the question is not as valid as it used to be.
> 
> But paying 50-60k (or  more) for a peekup is crazy.
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> January 20, 2018 at 8:22 AM
>> I’m just stunned at the prices on these things, even a base model F150. It’s 
>> crazy.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

my point exactly!

My standard question is "How much Mercedes can I buy for that money?"   
except for as simple a van I can find, the question has always led to no 
sale or buying another old MB.   The new MBs have destroyed the resale 
value and reliability, and the crypsler people destroyed parts 
availability and cost,, so the question is not as valid as it used to be.


But paying 50-60k (or  more) for a peekup is crazy.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 20, 2018 at 8:22 AM
I’m just stunned at the prices on these things, even a base model 
F150. It’s crazy.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] Next week

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Time to grab a bite and that’s about it.  Not enough time to go to the range or 
anything fun like that….

-D

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Three and a half hours not much time.
> 
> Rick
>   Original Message  
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 8:50 AM
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> Subject: [MBZ] Next week
> 
> I get in around 2:30 Monday and have till around 6pm if you are available.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Next week

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Three and a half hours not much time.

Rick
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Subject: [MBZ] Next week

I get in around 2:30 Monday and have till around 6pm if you are available.


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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m just stunned at the prices on these things, even a base model F150.  It’s 
crazy.

-D


> On Jan 20, 2018, at 9:18 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I would guess that most of the fancy trucks are sold to old men with deep 
> pockets. They buy a loaded pickup instead of a Cadillac or Lincoln, 
> especially now when they no longer make large cars. The fancy truck has 
> become a status symbol for them.
> My previous truck was a Lariat so upscale of my current XTR. I miss some 
> things like the leather bucket seats and automatic climate control but the 
> newer one has things like the backup camera and the beeper that warn of 
> things behind it which the 02 did not.
> I would have cheerfully had a fancier truck but it would have cost a lot more 
> and I did not need more bells and whistles.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

I would guess that most of the fancy trucks are sold to old men with deep 
pockets. They buy a loaded pickup instead of a Cadillac or Lincoln, especially 
now when they no longer make large cars. The fancy truck has become a status 
symbol for them.
My previous truck was a Lariat so upscale of my current XTR. I miss some things 
like the leather bucket seats and automatic climate control but the newer one 
has things like the backup camera and the beeper that warn of things behind it 
which the 02 did not.
I would have cheerfully had a fancier truck but it would have cost a lot more 
and I did not need more bells and whistles.


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 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-01-20  1:21 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment 
The  $50,000 to $60,000 peekups with all the "luxury" trim/interior such 
as the frod "platinum" "limited" "SVT Raptor" and "King Ranch"   are 
what I classify as wussywagons.   They are not meant for work, but to 
show off the owners wealth or to stroke the owners ego, or to satisfy 
the wife while doing one of the former..  The "platinum" is definitely 
trimmed to sell to the female market.  To be fair, pretty much all cars, 
MB included are targeted at the female market.  There may be some 
argument about the king ranch, but with a price tag over $50,000, 
leather steering wheel cover, heated seats, etc, it definitely has 
options that fall into the wussy category.  Each of these would be 
competing with a MB/nissan pickup.

I am not picking on frod, because GM, dodge, toada and nissan all offer 
products with similar fru-fru.  I am more familiar with their trim levels.

When you compare the $50k-60k wagens to the $27k ford F150 XL, can you 
honestly tell me a "limited or "platinum" is worth twice as much 
money?   Will they get twice as much MPG?  Will they last twice as 
long?  Will they carry twice as much?  Do they have some combination of 
the 3 that justifies being worth twice as much?

The gummit meddling in the vehicle market has driven people away from 
cars and into peekups.  The carmakers are not stupid.  they are just 
capitalizing on the weaknesses of people and what their gummit has 
taxed/regulated them into.

> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> January 19, 2018 at 10:40 AM
>
>
> What would you consider to not be a wussywagon? A Unimog?
> I cannot see myself doing long trips at highway speeds in one of those.
>
>
> I suggest that the 4WD 1/2 ton crew cab pickups are the best thing 
> since sliced bread. Basically, a big sedan with a huge trunk. Haul 
> people and/or loads of lumber etc and pull a trailer behind too if 
> need be. The biggest disadvantage is parking them.
>
> I don't need 3/4 ton capacity so not much point in hauling the extra 
> weight around. Would consider a diesel if I needed it and could 
> justify it but I cannot.
>
> RB

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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Typical winter weather - low 70s during the day, sunny, lows in the low 60s.

-D


> On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is the weather in Tampa going to be like next week?
> 
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[MBZ] Watch "Multimeter Tips & Tricks" on YouTube

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/uFTQxWlMGeE

I did not know about half of these.  Good to bookmark for those with
questions about using a multimeter.

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[MBZ] Next week

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I get in around 2:30 Monday and have till around 6pm if you are available.


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[MBZ] Poos

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What is the weather in Tampa going to be like next week?


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Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clips

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

R129 ones as well as the little piece of plastic trim around the attachment 
point of the sun visor are stupid expensive, like $50.

-D

> On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:12 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> SLC can be had all day long.  Try finding for the SL, in green.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 5:40 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow - last ones I bought (for the SLC) were $8 each, and I thought that was
>> robbery!
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin-Okiebenz via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Why the heck are sun visor clips so expensive?  They are anywhere from
>>> $26-40+ depending on color.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Andrew needs a dually truck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Could be like me - I work 6:30 am to 3:30 pm.  And that’s when I’m not working 
from home.  Our management says we need to work from home more to save money 
and resources.

I figure I still have a good half a day left when I get off work.

-D

> On Jan 19, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I actually worked late today.
> 
> On Jan 19, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> So, do you folks think that Andrew's employment with the government has
>> anything to do with the fact that he does not appear to be around on Friday
>> afternoon?
>> It is about 12 minutes to 5 here and I am still in my office.
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] The latest story on the CAB

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Between the top and the cylinders, not including labor, you’re talking roughly 
$2000 for parts to make things right.  Personally, I would walk away from this 
as you’ll be upside down on it before you start. W124 cabs aren’t so unique 
that they’re making the market go crazy, so unless you want another car for 
Regina to destroy, I would move on.  If you trade the 240D for it you’re really 
off your onion.

Just my $0.02.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> So I talked to the guy with the 124 CAB today.  It is at the body shop and 
> the initial estimate was $1800 to fix it.  I guess they got into it further 
> and the estimate has climbed to $6k.  The insurance company says the only 
> comparable they can find place it at a $9k value.  So the guy is not sure 
> what all is going to happen yet but it sounds like he will be getting a check 
> for the car and wanted to know if I was interested in it. I told him I was.  
> He is interested in the 240D.  So anyway, I figured a couple of things will 
> happen.  It ends up being too much and they total it, then he can find out 
> what the buy back amount is.  Or they just give him a check for whatever it 
> would have cost to fix it. He says he paid about $3500 for it so he hit the 
> jack pot.
> 
> Anyway on to the car.  So he says the part under the trunk is pushed in about 
> an inch and the trunk will not close.  He says the top is leaking fluid from 
> near the right rear wheel area, so it needs new cylinders.  He says it will 
> need a new top at some point as it is starting to fray.  He talks like the 
> leather seat covers have rips.  I still have not seen the car yet but I am 
> trying to figure out given the latest info how it would be worth to mess with 
> it.  I am thinking maybe $1200 depending on how bad it looks.  If he does 
> want the 240D I am going to try to get his car plus some cash.
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