Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA
mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time at
the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with few
exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled
flight altitudes.

Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to fly
with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have crew
rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen.

As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick".
rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder harness
and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if you
fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you.

I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the
airport. Your personal view may vary.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers
> aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway.
>
> There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels
> between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less
> manpower.
>
> Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the
> Payne Stewart crash:
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during
> > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting
> > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a
> > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane.
> >
> > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to
> worry
> > > about?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One
> > handles
> > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps
> in
> > the
> > >> middle.
> > >>
> > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight
> > deck
> > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
> > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
> > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> > 
> >  https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> > 
> > >>> Gerry wrote:
> > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
> > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books?
> > Play
> > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

i got cd1.  took 30-60 min  I didn't keep track  cd2 is working now.

The index won't run on a Mac, but you can open the pdfs.

You need a winders box or a VM running windoze 7 or so,  Xp will work too.

Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote on 2/25/19 7:44 PM:

Same here,  however i am trying to download on a Mac.

Michael E. Esh





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Re: [MBZ] W124 E300D Fuel Leak

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Pays to replace all the fuel hoses under the hood and under the tank 
when you get another car, and every 5-10 years, depending on the quality 
of the hose.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 2/25/19 6:23 PM:

Oldest son texts me this afternoon: “Car is leaking fuel bad, only when 
running. I’m going to pull it in the garage and have a look.”

Hmm. He’s had a fuel leak that we haven’t been able to pinpoint for a long 
time, but it’s always been pretty small. He still gets between 30-40 mpg.

So I get home, change into my grubbies, and glove up. I look all over that 
thing and I can’t find anything obvious. Start the car and fuel is pouring out 
from between the injection pump and engine, but we can’t see into this area 
from either above or below. I notice the supply hose from the filter assembly 
seems really soft and spongy. I’m thinking it’s got a crack in it, but we can 
only see to the fuel heater, which on the OM6076 is in a weird place on the 
head under the intake manifold runners for cylinders one and two. You can’t see 
a darned thing.

I call my dealer and ask my parts gal about the availability of fuel heater. 
“None in the country, nearly 300 in Germany.”

That’s a tell, a really big one. It told me that these things never get 
replaced or there would be some inventory in the US parts depots. Hmm.

Off comes the crossover pipe. Can’t see any better. Off comes the intake 
manifold.

The spongy hose? It had been connected to the banjo fitting on the side of the 
injection pump, but was barely hanging on. It was bent into a 90 degree elbow 
with no slack at the turn, and the banjo fitting was pointing down. There was a 
clamp on the hose but it was run down so tight that it was bottomed out.

I broke the banjo fitting loose a bit and rotated it around so we could get at 
the clamp. The hose was torn where it was bent into a 90. Great. To add to the 
fun, it was clearly not diesel rated hose, and had broken down badly. I wonder 
how much schmutz from the inside of the hose got into the engine…

Anyway, we got the clamp and hose off, replaced it with the proper stuff and 
new clamps, put everything back together and that was it. Total time maybe 90 
minutes if that. As an added bonus, we were able to take advantage of taking 
things apart and get the plastic cover that Karl was so kind to sell me 
installed. Nice.

The cars must communicate, as my wagon failed its water pump on Sunday. Despite 
the rash of issues, the finnie ran flawlessly to and from work today. Old 
Faithful, no doubt.

-D




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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no, it is not a mcPherson strut.  those are in a 124.

Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote on 2/25/19 11:27 AM:


thanks - 50 degrees is much better than 20 degrees.
also, can the whole suspension be removed/replaced? - spring/shock,
control arms...
tin




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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no room in the 124 to do the front gearshift bushing one that way.  Rear 
one you can use a bolt. I use channellocks.  Started that 48 years ago 
on the 110.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 2/25/19 10:50 AM:
I did them on the 126 using a bolt and some washers, which I think is 
kinda the po-man's tool.  Someone at some point had suggested that 
approach.  It worked OK but was a bit fiddly as there was not a lot of 
room up in there to turn the nut/bolt to squeeze in the bushing.  But 
it didn't cost $40 and I didn't have to deal with finding the special 
tool either, so there's that.  I don't know how the 124 compares to 
the 126 (and 123 too) so YMMV.


--FT




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Re: [MBZ] Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind and Solar Energy

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Agreed. That is,how ,I read it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 10:33 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

>
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 2/25/19 9:55 AM:
> > He knows a thing or two about unreliability
> >
> > --FT
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Shouldn't that be a Pander?Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-02-25  9:13 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Bob Rentfro  
Subject: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124 This car is filthy, the 
clearcoat from the respray in ‘04 is nearly all peeled off, and the plastic 
sunroof lifter-upper on one side is broken but this thing appears to be 
mechanically solid. 20+ years of maintenance records and all of the MB solid 
shop manuals. I do need a shifter linkage bushing. Is there a place that’s 
better than the others for getting W124 parts and bits? This is my first W124. 
Donkey ShirtsBob RSent from my 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers
aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway.

There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels
between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less
manpower.

Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the
Payne Stewart crash:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash




On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
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> What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during
> landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting
> handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a
> crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane.
>
> On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry
> > about?
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One
> handles
> >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in
> the
> >> middle.
> >>
> >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight
> deck
> >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
> >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
> >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:
> >>>
>  Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> 
>  https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> 
> >>> Gerry wrote:
> >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
> >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books?
> Play
> >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind and Solar Energy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 2/25/19 9:55 AM:

He knows a thing or two about unreliability

--FT



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

God point.  Sleep is contagious.  Yet - these things fly themselves.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:06 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It does if the other pilot goes to sleep as well. I've read about two
> instances of that happening to major airline pilots; one plane flew out
> over the Pacific, and the other either overflew, or woke up before they
> overflew, their destination on a flight from the West Coast to somewhere in
> Minnesota IIRC.
> Gerry
> ...
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned
> > about or not?
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during
> > > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting
> > > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a
> > > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane.
> > >
> > > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to
> worry
> > > > about?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One
> > > handles
> > > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1
> sleeps in
> > > the
> > > >> middle.
> > > >>
> > > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the
> flight
> > > deck
> > > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
> > > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
> > > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:
> > > >>>
> > >  Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> > > 
> > >  https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> > > 
> > > >>> Gerry wrote:
> > > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
> > > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read
> books?
> > > Play
> > > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 E300D Fuel Leak

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

FL car = never driven in snow.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:26 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 40mpg?  Does it have ICE COLD AIR also?  Best I have ever seen with one
> of these is about 32.
>
> On 2/25/2019 6:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Oldest son texts me this afternoon: “Car is leaking fuel bad, only when
> running. I’m going to pull it in the garage and have a look.”
> >
> > Hmm. He’s had a fuel leak that we haven’t been able to pinpoint for a
> long time, but it’s always been pretty small. He still gets between 30-40
> mpg.
> >
> > So I get home, change into my grubbies, and glove up. I look all over
> that thing and I can’t find anything obvious. Start the car and fuel is
> pouring out from between the injection pump and engine, but we can’t see
> into this area from either above or below. I notice the supply hose from
> the filter assembly seems really soft and spongy. I’m thinking it’s got a
> crack in it, but we can only see to the fuel heater, which on the OM6076 is
> in a weird place on the head under the intake manifold runners for
> cylinders one and two. You can’t see a darned thing.
> >
> > I call my dealer and ask my parts gal about the availability of fuel
> heater. “None in the country, nearly 300 in Germany.”
> >
> > That’s a tell, a really big one. It told me that these things never get
> replaced or there would be some inventory in the US parts depots. Hmm.
> >
> > Off comes the crossover pipe. Can’t see any better. Off comes the intake
> manifold.
> >
> > The spongy hose? It had been connected to the banjo fitting on the side
> of the injection pump, but was barely hanging on. It was bent into a 90
> degree elbow with no slack at the turn, and the banjo fitting was pointing
> down. There was a clamp on the hose but it was run down so tight that it
> was bottomed out.
> >
> > I broke the banjo fitting loose a bit and rotated it around so we could
> get at the clamp. The hose was torn where it was bent into a 90. Great. To
> add to the fun, it was clearly not diesel rated hose, and had broken down
> badly. I wonder how much schmutz from the inside of the hose got into the
> engine…
> >
> > Anyway, we got the clamp and hose off, replaced it with the proper stuff
> and new clamps, put everything back together and that was it. Total time
> maybe 90 minutes if that. As an added bonus, we were able to take advantage
> of taking things apart and get the plastic cover that Karl was so kind to
> sell me installed. Nice.
> >
> > The cars must communicate, as my wagon failed its water pump on Sunday.
> Despite the rash of issues, the finnie ran flawlessly to and from work
> today. Old Faithful, no doubt.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

Got It.
Thanks


> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Me thinks you need a Google account. 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message  
> 
> 
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: February 25, 2019 7:45 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: michael...@mac.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's broke
> 
> 
> Same here,  however i am trying to download on a Mac.
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:26 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> --FT - how do the Google Drive files get downloaded / viewed?  Do you
>> need to authorize?  There do not seem to be Drive options for viewing
>> and when downloading, things seem to stall.
>> Thanks.
>> tin
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Uh, no.

I have this one, it was the cheapest I could find it.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-shift-bushing-installer-baum-tools-b7200


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Would this tool be available as a loaner at the auto parts store?

Michael E. Esh


> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> Where's a cheap place to buy Baum?
> Autohausaz has them on sale, list $49.95, sale price $62.04.
> https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/BU-B7200
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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Me thinks you need a Google account. 



Rick



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's broke


Same here,  however i am trying to download on a Mac.

Michael E. Esh


> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:26 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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> --FT - how do the Google Drive files get downloaded / viewed?  Do you
> need to authorize?  There do not seem to be Drive options for viewing
> and when downloading, things seem to stall.
> Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Same here,  however i am trying to download on a Mac. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:26 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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> --FT - how do the Google Drive files get downloaded / viewed?  Do you
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> and when downloading, things seem to stall.
> Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Would this tool be available as a loaner at the auto parts store?

Michael E. Esh


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> Autohausaz has them on sale, list $49.95, sale price $62.04.
> https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/BU-B7200
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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

You should be able to follow the link then download the files/folders. The 
files are close to a gig so it will take awhile depending on your bandwidth 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--FT - how do the Google Drive files get downloaded / viewed?  Do you
need to authorize?  There do not seem to be Drive options for viewing
and when downloading, things seem to stall.
Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--FT wrote:
> Should be the same setup, both 123s.  240 spring might be different from
> a 300 spring due to different engine weights up front?

That might make a stiff ride since 240 is lighter weight?  Or, wrong length?
What about euro?  When we did slave cylinder it was special part for the euro.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:
> You need the whole suspension, or can it be done?

It's not 50 degrees.  Dunno.
It seems it might be easier to remove the whole thing?
tin

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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Where's a cheap place to buy Baum?
Autohausaz has them on sale, list $49.95, sale price $62.04.
https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/BU-B7200

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

It does if the other pilot goes to sleep as well. I've read about two instances 
of that happening to major airline pilots; one plane flew out over the Pacific, 
and the other either overflew, or woke up before they overflew, their 
destination on a flight from the West Coast to somewhere in Minnesota IIRC.
Gerry
...
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> I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned
> about or not?
> 
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during
> > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting
> > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a
> > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane.
> >
> > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry
> > > about?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One
> > handles
> > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in
> > the
> > >> middle.
> > >>
> > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight
> > deck
> > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
> > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
> > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> > 
> >  https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> > 
> > >>> Gerry wrote:
> > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
> > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books?
> > Play
> > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 E300D Fuel Leak

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

40mpg?  Does it have ICE COLD AIR also?  Best I have ever seen with one 
of these is about 32.


On 2/25/2019 6:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Oldest son texts me this afternoon: “Car is leaking fuel bad, only when 
running. I’m going to pull it in the garage and have a look.”

Hmm. He’s had a fuel leak that we haven’t been able to pinpoint for a long 
time, but it’s always been pretty small. He still gets between 30-40 mpg.

So I get home, change into my grubbies, and glove up. I look all over that 
thing and I can’t find anything obvious. Start the car and fuel is pouring out 
from between the injection pump and engine, but we can’t see into this area 
from either above or below. I notice the supply hose from the filter assembly 
seems really soft and spongy. I’m thinking it’s got a crack in it, but we can 
only see to the fuel heater, which on the OM6076 is in a weird place on the 
head under the intake manifold runners for cylinders one and two. You can’t see 
a darned thing.

I call my dealer and ask my parts gal about the availability of fuel heater. 
“None in the country, nearly 300 in Germany.”

That’s a tell, a really big one. It told me that these things never get 
replaced or there would be some inventory in the US parts depots. Hmm.

Off comes the crossover pipe. Can’t see any better. Off comes the intake 
manifold.

The spongy hose? It had been connected to the banjo fitting on the side of the 
injection pump, but was barely hanging on. It was bent into a 90 degree elbow 
with no slack at the turn, and the banjo fitting was pointing down. There was a 
clamp on the hose but it was run down so tight that it was bottomed out.

I broke the banjo fitting loose a bit and rotated it around so we could get at 
the clamp. The hose was torn where it was bent into a 90. Great. To add to the 
fun, it was clearly not diesel rated hose, and had broken down badly. I wonder 
how much schmutz from the inside of the hose got into the engine…

Anyway, we got the clamp and hose off, replaced it with the proper stuff and 
new clamps, put everything back together and that was it. Total time maybe 90 
minutes if that. As an added bonus, we were able to take advantage of taking 
things apart and get the plastic cover that Karl was so kind to sell me 
installed. Nice.

The cars must communicate, as my wagon failed its water pump on Sunday. Despite 
the rash of issues, the finnie ran flawlessly to and from work today. Old 
Faithful, no doubt.

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[MBZ] W124 E300D Fuel Leak

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Oldest son texts me this afternoon: “Car is leaking fuel bad, only when 
running. I’m going to pull it in the garage and have a look.”

Hmm. He’s had a fuel leak that we haven’t been able to pinpoint for a long 
time, but it’s always been pretty small. He still gets between 30-40 mpg.

So I get home, change into my grubbies, and glove up. I look all over that 
thing and I can’t find anything obvious. Start the car and fuel is pouring out 
from between the injection pump and engine, but we can’t see into this area 
from either above or below. I notice the supply hose from the filter assembly 
seems really soft and spongy. I’m thinking it’s got a crack in it, but we can 
only see to the fuel heater, which on the OM6076 is in a weird place on the 
head under the intake manifold runners for cylinders one and two. You can’t see 
a darned thing.

I call my dealer and ask my parts gal about the availability of fuel heater. 
“None in the country, nearly 300 in Germany.”

That’s a tell, a really big one. It told me that these things never get 
replaced or there would be some inventory in the US parts depots. Hmm.

Off comes the crossover pipe. Can’t see any better. Off comes the intake 
manifold.

The spongy hose? It had been connected to the banjo fitting on the side of the 
injection pump, but was barely hanging on. It was bent into a 90 degree elbow 
with no slack at the turn, and the banjo fitting was pointing down. There was a 
clamp on the hose but it was run down so tight that it was bottomed out.

I broke the banjo fitting loose a bit and rotated it around so we could get at 
the clamp. The hose was torn where it was bent into a 90. Great. To add to the 
fun, it was clearly not diesel rated hose, and had broken down badly. I wonder 
how much schmutz from the inside of the hose got into the engine…

Anyway, we got the clamp and hose off, replaced it with the proper stuff and 
new clamps, put everything back together and that was it. Total time maybe 90 
minutes if that. As an added bonus, we were able to take advantage of taking 
things apart and get the plastic cover that Karl was so kind to sell me 
installed. Nice.

The cars must communicate, as my wagon failed its water pump on Sunday. Despite 
the rash of issues, the finnie ran flawlessly to and from work today. Old 
Faithful, no doubt.

-D
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[MBZ] SL600 blink code reading

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I went out before it got too dark (twilight helped see the LED) and 
hooked up my LED blinker reader to the car and pulled codes off 4 pins.  
Had time to test/ get codes off pin5 LH Sequential Fuel Injection Left 
Bank, pin6 ABS/ASR/ETS/ESP, pin8 Base Module, and pin11 Automatic Damper 
System control module.  There are a bunch more pins too, maybe 24 total 
that are used on this car (I still need to check on that). I will get to 
them another time, I have to modify my wires with something that will go 
into the sockets better.


Got 1 code off the LHSFI, 2 off the ABSetc., 8 codes off the Base 
Module, 5 off the ADS.  Gotta dig more into what they might mean, I did 
look to see what the codes are for.  I can go back and clear all of them 
too, see what might come back.  A bunch of the BM codes seemed to be due 
to the battery being low or disconnected, so those should clear which I 
can do with the blink reader too.


I *think* I found all the codes for all the pins/blinks, and have sorta 
compiled those from stuff I extracted from various sources, but I think 
I will make another cheat sheet to see more easily what they all mean 
and what pins are what.  One of the fancy devices would probably read 
them all and say what they are directly, but for now my no-cost LED 
blinker is working,  Yay me!


Fun times with an electronic car...

BTW the 38-pin connector is on these cars, certain years seem to have 
different set-ups for the pins and what they have on them so you have to 
look at car/year specific pins/codes.


38-Pin Diagnostic Connector 
Models 124.034/036, 129.058/063/067/076, 
140, 170, 202, 208, 210, 215, 220


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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That is way overpriced.

On 2/25/2019 1:04 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-shift-bushing-installer-baum-tools-b7200#reviews

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

No, I would not give uncle Kent a dime.  Just about anything he sells is 
available elsewhere for a lower price and better quality.  You can get 
those shift bushing tool all over ebay.


On 2/25/2019 10:45 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I was watching the Mercedes source guy videos while I’m waiting on my truck to 
get serviced and I saw his little handy-dandy kit for replacing the bushings on 
the shifter linkage. Is it worth the 40 bucks to get the two special tools? 
What do you think? I’ve never perform this on a W124 before.

Bob R

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On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Pics.

I order stuff from FCPEuro and they have been good, I think free shipping over 
$49, but the other parts houses seem to do OK too.

--FT


On 2/25/19 10:13 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
This car is filthy, the clearcoat from the respray in ‘04 is nearly all peeled 
off, and the plastic sunroof lifter-upper on one side is broken but this thing 
appears to be mechanically solid. 20+ years of maintenance records and all of 
the MB solid shop manuals.
I do need a shifter linkage bushing. Is there a place that’s better than the 
others for getting W124 parts and bits? This is my first W124.
Donkey Shirts

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind and Solar Energy

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

He is also very much aware of the impacts of Vaporware.  The song of his people 
through most of the history of M$

clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Feb 25, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He knows a thing or two about unreliability
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 2/24/19 10:26 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> Carbon and renewables seem not to make sense to the almost richest man in 
>> the world.  That may point to just how much magical thinking is going on in 
>> the marketing of these products to the public


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Only if he slumps forward against the controls.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:40 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned
> about or not?
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during
> > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting
> > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a
> > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane.
> >
> > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to
> worry
> > > about?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One
> > handles
> > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps
> in
> > the
> > >> middle.
> > >>
> > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight
> > deck
> > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
> > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
> > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> > 
> >  https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> > 
> > >>> Gerry wrote:
> > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned
about or not?

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during
> landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting
> handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a
> crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane.
>
> On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry
> > about?
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One
> handles
> >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in
> the
> >> middle.
> >>
> >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight
> deck
> >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
> >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
> >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:
> >>>
>  Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> 
>  https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> 
> >>> Gerry wrote:
> >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
> >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books?
> Play
> >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I filled up the SL on Saturday and it let out a big fart when I took off 
the gas cap.


--FT

On 2/25/19 3:39 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I reckon I’ll take it off the car and do it on the bench with the nuts and 
bolts part. I hope you guys are gonna be patient with my thousand and one 
questions on this thing. Something that just occurred which kind of freaked me 
out a little bit is that I stopped to put fuel in it and I go to take the fuel 
cap off the furl tank is pressurized. WTF

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone


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https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-shift-bushing-installer-baum-tools-b7200#reviews

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[MBZ] OT: B-52s Forever?

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

U.S. B-52 bombers are getting an upgrade that will let them drop smart 
munitions like never before.

25 Feb. 2019 -- The service is testing a major upgrade for the decades-old 
bombers, as well as the revolutionary conventional rotary launchers (CFLs). The 
upgrade will increase the number of munitions a B-52 bomber can drop at one 
time.

CFLs are rotating munition systems inside the B-52 bomb bay that enable the 
heavy, long-range bombers to carry a large and varied payload of conventional 
smart munitions and other guided airborne weapons.

"Before these launchers, the B-52 was not capable of carrying smart weapons 
internally," explains Master Sgt. Adam Levandowski, Air Forces Strategic 
(AFSTRAT) armament systems manager. "Now each CRL allows for internal carriage, 
which adds an additional eight smart bombs per aircraft."

https://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/pt/2019/02/b-52-bomber-upgrade-smart-munitions.html

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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Is this the '87 or the '9x?


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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

My 78 240D used to do that, especially when near empty.

On 2/25/2019 3:39 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I reckon I’ll take it off the car and do it on the bench with the nuts and 
bolts part. I hope you guys are gonna be patient with my thousand and one 
questions on this thing. Something that just occurred which kind of freaked me 
out a little bit is that I stopped to put fuel in it and I go to take the fuel 
cap off the furl tank is pressurized. WTF

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during 
landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting 
handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a 
crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane.


On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry
about?

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles
takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in the
middle.

For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight deck
whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
"arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:


Pilot asleep at controls of 747.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/


Gerry wrote:
I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play
games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.

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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

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I reckon I’ll take it off the car and do it on the bench with the nuts and 
bolts part. I hope you guys are gonna be patient with my thousand and one 
questions on this thing. Something that just occurred which kind of freaked me 
out a little bit is that I stopped to put fuel in it and I go to take the fuel 
cap off the furl tank is pressurized. WTF 

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-shift-bushing-installer-baum-tools-b7200#reviews
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry
about?

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles
> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in the
> middle.
>
> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight deck
> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
> > "arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:
> >
> > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> > >
> > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> > >
> > Gerry wrote:
> > I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
> > autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play
> > games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

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First of all, don’t give a dime to Mercedessource. If you really want the tool 
you can get one for around $20 online.

There are several approaches to replacing these little buggers.

1 - As Curley or someone suggested you can do it with some washers, nuts and a 
bolt. This approach is sort of fiddly, but it works and is cheap.

2 - Remove the arm from the car and do it on the bench.

3 - I’ve had some success with using a pair of channelocks, but again, this can 
be somewhat frustrating and fiddly.

Before you take any approach to this job, heat up a cup of water in your 
microwave and drop the bushing into it. Do NOT heat the bushing directly!!! Let 
it soak for 5-10 minutes to soften, which makes it a lot easier to install.

-D

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> 
> I was watching the Mercedes source guy videos while I’m waiting on my truck 
> to get serviced and I saw his little handy-dandy kit for replacing the 
> bushings on the shifter linkage. Is it worth the 40 bucks to get the two 
> special tools? What do you think? I’ve never perform this on a W124 before. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Pics.
>> 
>> I order stuff from FCPEuro and they have been good, I think free shipping 
>> over $49, but the other parts houses seem to do OK too.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 2/25/19 10:13 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This car is filthy, the clearcoat from the respray in ‘04 is nearly all 
>>> peeled off, and the plastic sunroof lifter-upper on one side is broken but 
>>> this thing appears to be mechanically solid. 20+ years of maintenance 
>>> records and all of the MB solid shop manuals.
>>> I do need a shifter linkage bushing. Is there a place that’s better than 
>>> the others for getting W124 parts and bits? This is my first W124.
>>> Donkey Shirts
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

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Should be the same setup, both 123s.  240 spring might be different from 
a 300 spring due to different engine weights up front?


--FT

On 2/25/19 12:11 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

--FT wrote:

123 manual

thanks - probably not much difference between front suspension 1979TD
and 1984 240d euro?
tin

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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

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 >Also, can the whole suspension be removed/replaced?


You need the whole suspension, or can it be done?

  Rick

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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:
> Yes. It's going to have to get over 50 degrees before I go and pull it, 
> though.

> I've got a knock off you can borrow.

thanks - 50 degrees is much better than 20 degrees.
also, can the whole suspension be removed/replaced? - spring/shock,
control arms...
tin

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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

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>does anyone have good used front W123 left spring? 

Yes. It's going to have to get over 50 degrees before I go and pull it, though. 

>good to hear experience tell Klann may not be necessary.

I've got a knock off you can borrow. 

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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

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--FT wrote:
> 123 manual

thanks - probably not much difference between front suspension 1979TD
and 1984 240d euro?
tin

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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

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123 manual

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dydOFCtsx_56Qk1QauU36cn7JdchtwxM?usp=sharing

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On 2/25/19 11:53 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:

http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm

--FT

On 2/25/19 11:48 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Curley wrote:

front or rear?

front - have you disassembled front suspension? - anyone?
what is the process?  manuals are here but experience speaking seems
more OkieBenz.
also, does anyone have good used front W123 left spring? - Kaleb? or,
perhaps full strut?
which parts place is best for 35-year old suspension parts?
this is spring-over-shock strut correct?
good to hear experience tell Klann may not be necessary.
thanks.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm

--FT

On 2/25/19 11:48 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Curley wrote:

front or rear?

front - have you disassembled front suspension? - anyone?
what is the process?  manuals are here but experience speaking seems
more OkieBenz.
also, does anyone have good used front W123 left spring? - Kaleb? or,
perhaps full strut?
which parts place is best for 35-year old suspension parts?
this is spring-over-shock strut correct?
good to hear experience tell Klann may not be necessary.
thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I did them on the 126 using a bolt and some washers, which I think is 
kinda the po-man's tool.  Someone at some point had suggested that 
approach.  It worked OK but was a bit fiddly as there was not a lot of 
room up in there to turn the nut/bolt to squeeze in the bushing.  But it 
didn't cost $40 and I didn't have to deal with finding the special tool 
either, so there's that.  I don't know how the 124 compares to the 126 
(and 123 too) so YMMV.


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On 2/25/19 11:45 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I was watching the Mercedes source guy videos while I’m waiting on my truck to 
get serviced and I saw his little handy-dandy kit for replacing the bushings on 
the shifter linkage. Is it worth the 40 bucks to get the two special tools? 
What do you think? I’ve never perform this on a W124 before.

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone


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wrote:

Pics.

I order stuff from FCPEuro and they have been good, I think free shipping over 
$49, but the other parts houses seem to do OK too.

--FT


On 2/25/19 10:13 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
This car is filthy, the clearcoat from the respray in ‘04 is nearly all peeled 
off, and the plastic sunroof lifter-upper on one side is broken but this thing 
appears to be mechanically solid. 20+ years of maintenance records and all of 
the MB solid shop manuals.
I do need a shifter linkage bushing. Is there a place that’s better than the 
others for getting W124 parts and bits? This is my first W124.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles
takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in the
middle.

For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight deck
whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or
irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
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> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
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> > Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> >
> > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
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> Gerry wrote:
> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play
> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.
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Re: [MBZ] It's broke

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curley wrote:
> front or rear?

front - have you disassembled front suspension? - anyone?
what is the process?  manuals are here but experience speaking seems
more OkieBenz.
also, does anyone have good used front W123 left spring? - Kaleb? or,
perhaps full strut?
which parts place is best for 35-year old suspension parts?
this is spring-over-shock strut correct?
good to hear experience tell Klann may not be necessary.
thanks.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I was watching the Mercedes source guy videos while I’m waiting on my truck to 
get serviced and I saw his little handy-dandy kit for replacing the bushings on 
the shifter linkage. Is it worth the 40 bucks to get the two special tools? 
What do you think? I’ve never perform this on a W124 before. 

Bob R

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> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Pics.
> 
> I order stuff from FCPEuro and they have been good, I think free shipping 
> over $49, but the other parts houses seem to do OK too.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 2/25/19 10:13 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> This car is filthy, the clearcoat from the respray in ‘04 is nearly all 
>> peeled off, and the plastic sunroof lifter-upper on one side is broken but 
>> this thing appears to be mechanically solid. 20+ years of maintenance 
>> records and all of the MB solid shop manuals.
>> I do need a shifter linkage bushing. Is there a place that’s better than the 
>> others for getting W124 parts and bits? This is my first W124.
>> Donkey Shirts
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind and Solar Energy

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Well said !!

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> He knows a thing or two about unreliability
>
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> On 2/24/19 10:26 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
> > Carbon and renewables seem not to make sense to the almost richest man
> in the world.  That may point to just how much magical thinking is going on
> in the marketing of these products to the public
> >
> > clay monroe
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Re: [MBZ] Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind and Solar Energy

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

He knows a thing or two about unreliability

--FT

On 2/24/19 10:26 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Carbon and renewables seem not to make sense to the almost richest man in the 
world.  That may point to just how much magical thinking is going on in the 
marketing of these products to the public

clay monroe


I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
looking for didn't fall out.
https://youtu.be/9xe3BWPsBTU 

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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Pics.

I order stuff from FCPEuro and they have been good, I think free 
shipping over $49, but the other parts houses seem to do OK too.


--FT

On 2/25/19 10:13 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

This car is filthy, the clearcoat from the respray in ‘04 is nearly all peeled 
off, and the plastic sunroof lifter-upper on one side is broken but this thing 
appears to be mechanically solid. 20+ years of maintenance records and all of 
the MB solid shop manuals.
I do need a shifter linkage bushing. Is there a place that’s better than the 
others for getting W124 parts and bits? This is my first W124.
Donkey Shirts

Bob R

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[MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

This car is filthy, the clearcoat from the respray in ‘04 is nearly all peeled 
off, and the plastic sunroof lifter-upper on one side is broken but this thing 
appears to be mechanically solid. 20+ years of maintenance records and all of 
the MB solid shop manuals. 
I do need a shifter linkage bushing. Is there a place that’s better than the 
others for getting W124 parts and bits? This is my first W124. 
Donkey Shirts

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] 124 driveshaft carrier bearing 6006-2RS

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The rubber carrier is what is responsible for thumping.  A bearing alone
isn't often what you need.

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[MBZ] 124 driveshaft carrier bearing 6006-2RS

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Please delete the prior email.  I wrote the wrong bearing number.

I ordered a FAG.  It is a 6006-2RS.   When you have the bearing number, 
you can pick one up locally at a bearing or industrial supply house. (or 
fleabay) generally faster and cheaper than going through parts channels.


You may want to note the bearing number if you have a 124.  May be the 
same for 107-126/210 etc.




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[MBZ] 124 driveshaft carrier bearing 6004-2RS

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I ordered a FAG.  It is a 6004-2RS.   When you have the bearing number, 
you can pick one up locally at a bearing or industrial supply house. (or 
fleabay) generally faster and cheaper than going through prats channels.


You may want to note the bearing number if you have a 124.  May be the 
same for 107-126/210 etc.


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Re: [MBZ] W124 backup light switch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Thanks Kaleb, Peter and Fred.   If I understand correctly, you put the 
gearshift in neutral with the car in the air, crawl under with a short 
piece of rod, probably 4 to 8 mm dia, and adjust the switch to line up a 
hole with a hole in the transmission shift lever.  Is this right?   I 
thought I had read that the neutral switch was on the opposite side from 
the gear selector lever.  This sounds like it is ahead of or behind the 
gear selector lever.


I thought I recalled unplugging the neutral safety switch by taking out 
the gear shift boot.   I will look on the side of the trans to see if I 
can find it.   Does the backup switch work by grounding the light 
circuit, or by providing power to the circuit?   If by providing a 
ground, then I may have a pinched wire somewhere.


If I did unplug the neutral safety, would the backup switch still be 
working?  I would think that eliminating one would eliminate both.


Thanks!

The new trans mount helped somewhat with the thumpity thump, but did not 
eliminate it.  I now have the new mount and carrier bearing for the 
driveshaft.  The next service, the 300D will get those parts, plus a 
tensioner with new bearings, a radiator and an attempt to get the backup 
lights under control.  (and an oil change)





Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 2/25/19 6:43 AM:

Neutral position is where you set the switch.  There is a bracket that adjusts 
I think.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 backup light switch

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Neutral position is where you set the switch.  There is a bracket that adjusts 
I think.
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