Re: [MBZ] Duplicate Messages

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

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On Mar 2, 2019 6:40 PM, "Craig via Mercedes"  wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 18:23:47 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > no
>
> Now that* was an awful thing to do, Floyd.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> * A first reply at  Sat, 2 Mar 2019 18:23:39 -0500
>   and a second at   Sat, 2 Mar 2019 18:23:47 -0500
>
>
>
> > On 3/2/19 1:32 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > For some reason I am getting 2 copies of each email.  Any way to stop
> > > this?
>
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Agreed!  Best time I had ever was driving a prof's 250SE on a sunny 
spring day with the BIG sunroof open and the heater blasting!  I love 
the popup.  I drove the original SDL almost all ~250k I put on it with 
the sunroof popped up in back.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 3/2/19 1:48 PM:

  I don't understand you guys and your hated of sunroofs. On a warm spring 
evening, sunroof open, cruising some backroads with good tunes playing, thats a 
good time..
-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

You would win all kinds of prizes!! We would even have to invent new prize
categories. We find out from the park Monday if the Q will be on 9/14
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 9:35 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could drive it to the ‘Q!
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 2, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> >
> > Nice. Martha,would be proud as,would Gottlieb.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 9:17 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com  wrote:
> > Lots of little piddly things today:
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/2_Another_Detail_Day.html
> <
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/2_Another_Detail_Day.html
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> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could drive it to the ‘Q!

-D


> On Mar 2, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Nice. Martha,would be proud as,would Gottlieb.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 9:17 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes   wrote:
> Lots of little piddly things today:
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/2_Another_Detail_Day.html 
> 
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Nice. Martha,would be proud as,would Gottlieb.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 9:17 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  Lots of little piddly things today:
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/2_Another_Detail_Day.html
>
> -D
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Lots of little piddly things today:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/2_Another_Detail_Day.html

-D

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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Leaks and bald heads that burn easily ...

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 1:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I don't understand you guys and your hated of sunroofs. On a warm spring
> evening, sunroof open, cruising some backroads with good tunes playing,
> thats a good time..
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2019, 2:47:43 PM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  > If I end up with another old MB with a sunroof, I'll MIG it closed and
> > sealed!
>
> Duct tape would look better, be easier, and likely work better.  Plus, it
> won't
> harm the resale value as much!
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Duplicate Messages

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 18:23:47 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> no

Now that* was an awful thing to do, Floyd.


Craig


* A first reply at  Sat, 2 Mar 2019 18:23:39 -0500
  and a second at   Sat, 2 Mar 2019 18:23:47 -0500



> On 3/2/19 1:32 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > For some reason I am getting 2 copies of each email.  Any way to stop 
> > this?


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Re: [MBZ] Duplicate Messages

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

no

On 3/2/19 1:32 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:

Hi All,
For some reason I am getting 2 copies of each email.  Any way to stop 
this?

Larry
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Re: [MBZ] Duplicate Messages

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

no

On 3/2/19 1:32 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:

Hi All,
For some reason I am getting 2 copies of each email.  Any way to stop 
this?

Larry
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Re: [MBZ] Loosed Coolant, cut hoose

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You know, I was thinking about that this afternoon.  Could very well be 
what happened.  I put a new hoose on when I put on the water pump (which 
was not needed, alas...) so maybe it got whacked.  I'll have to get 
someone to watch the engine when I rev it, I don't think I can see it 
move from the driver seat


--FT

On 3/2/19 6:04 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Did that damage happen when the alternator pulley died?


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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I've done the sunroof repair, I can loan you the special tools.  I think Dave M 
wrote up the instructions.  The key is to be able to open the sunroof, either 
pop up the back (hard way to go) or get it to slide back open (easy "factory" 
way).

I would advise that you don't touch it until you have the procedure, the parts, 
and the tools.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On March 2, 2019 1:27:12 PM EST, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>In the last two refueling there were no issues. Checking the fuel tank
>vent is on my list of things to do, but kinda down there.
>Replaced the glow plug relay and now I’m waiting for new Yokohama to be
>installed. PO had 205 vice 195 on it. I chose original Size since I
>have often proved I can’t out think those German engineers.
>When I get home from getting the new tires, I’m going to replace the
>front struts and the upper mounts. 
>I have to stand an overtime watch tomorrow but on Monday I intend to
>clean the carpets and really really clean the cabin. 
>The other random thing I’ll have to start thinking about is the
>sunroof. The PO said that one of the lifting arms is broken. This looks
>to be obvious when you try to raise the roof. One side starts to come
>up on the other side does not move. I’m thinking that Repair may not be
>too fun. Has anyone done that one?
>I feel that I still have a lot to learn about W124s but so far so good.
>
>
>Bob R
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Vent line from tank  to above the rear axle is plugged.  Mud daubers
>like it. There is a rubber "flapper or door" on the end of the tube.
>> 
>> Craig via Mercedes wrote on 2/26/19 11:51 AM:
>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:39:22 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 ... Something that just occurred which
 kind of freaked me out a little bit is that I stopped to put fuel
>in it
 and I go to take the fuel cap off the furl tank is pressurized. WTF
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 Mercedes-Benz 560 Series 2dr Coupe 560SL Roadster 64k Miles $34, 500

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Wow, rather a high price!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On March 2, 2019 2:13:29 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>http://usimotors.com/Knoxville-Tennessee-37919/Used-1989-Mercedes-Benz-560-Series-2dr-Coupe-560SL-Roadster/VDP/06c439dc-379e-40bd-a074-40f11ac8aabb
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>My cousin saw this and sent me pics of it.  Looks really nice
>
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Re: [MBZ] Loosed Coolant, cut hoose

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Did that damage happen when the alternator pulley died?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On March 2, 2019 1:53:14 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Got a low coolant warning light on the $500E300 yesterday. Poured some
>coolant in it. Just now checked it, low again. Filled it again and
>squeezed the upper rad hose and heard it hissing. Felt around, it had
>been cut through in 2 places by the belt, which would take movement of
>like 1.5”. I’m guessing that means the mounts are shot?  Ugh. 
>
>--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes I think I just found my next piece of equipment I need to buy

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Can’t be his, there’s a working lift in the background.

-D


> On Mar 2, 2019, at 2:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb sez:
> 
>> I do not have a set of wheels for sale.
> 
> Sorry. I guess these aren't yours then. I assumed that in Nowata you would be 
> the only one with anything Mercedes related for sale. I was mistaken. 
> (wrong). 
> 
> Maybe you should pick them up. 
> 
> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/wto/d/nowata-mercedes-wheels/6830379344.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This stuff is cheap and it cleans carpets as good or better than anything I’ve 
ever used:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tuff-Stuff-Multi-Purpose-Foam-Cleaner-22-ounces-13146/16817397

Hose it down with this stuff, immediately go after it with a stiff plastic 
bristle scrub brush, and you’re done.

-D




> On Mar 2, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. That’s awesome. Also it made my heart feel all warm and fuzzy to 
> re-read some of Herr Doktor’s emails.
> The glow plugs tested perfect.
> “Martha” is preoccupied with important family issues but I’m sure he will 
> have a good product that I should use on my carpet’s and on my MB Tex and on 
> my headliner. 
> We bought a new carpet cleaner last month and it has an attachment that I may 
> use on the carpets. I’d like to get them as clean as possible and then buy 
> some correct floor mats to fit on top. I think I may monkey around with the 
> sunroof just enough to see if I can get it to slide open even with the broken 
> pop-up feature. Or, like Wilton suggests, leave itclosed. On the spectrum of 
> DYI-Er I’m probably about in the middle. Clearly this sounds like something 
> that a more upper echelon DYI er would do. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:27:12 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Replaced the glow plug relay ...
>> 
>> Did that fix the problem? How did the glow plugs turn out?
>> 
>> 
>>> ... I’m going to replace the front struts and the upper mounts.
>> 
>> Have those been showing signs of problems?
>> 
>> 
>>> ... on Monday I intend to clean the carpets and really really clean the
>>> cabin.
>> 
>> Maybe I should bring ours by ... :-)
>> 
>> What do you use to clean carpets?
>> 
>> 
>>> The other random thing I’ll have to start thinking about is the
>>> sunroof. The PO said that one of the lifting arms is broken. This looks
>>> to be obvious when you try to raise the roof. One side starts to come
>>> up on the other side does not move. I’m thinking that Repair may not be
>>> too fun.
>> 
>> From the past emails on the subject (listed below), I'm thinking the same.
>> 
>> 
>>> Has anyone done that one?
>> 
>> Not I. You could follow Wilton's advice and leave it closed ...
>> 
>> 
>>> I feel that I still have a lot to learn about W124s but so far so good. 
>> 
>> I know that feeling!
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> ===
>> 
>> From: tom savage 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Sunroof Repair
>> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:54:27 -0500
>> 
>> 
>> Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
>>> This sunroof discussion is helpful as well as scary.  I really like the
>>> tilt feature and use it almost exclusively.  Does anyone know if the
>>> slide function works when the tilt arm breaks? Will it close when it
>>> breaks? Thanks,
>>> Dwight
>> 
>> Dunno, depends on it's position when it breaks, I guess.  There is a 
>> special tool to manually close the sunroof should it break.  Below is an 
>> old post on the subject.  For this reason, I've never used the tilt 
>> feature on any of my cars so equipped.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> [MB] sunroof not working on 126 (300 SDL)
>> Bill Brandt wlb at lanset.com
>> Wed Feb 20 18:28:04 MST 2002
>> 
>> I might add to what Richard has said - I recently had to have my 86 300E
>> sunroof repaired and I remember enough from the list to not even consider
>> trying to "fix it" myself - I took it to a good independent who has done
>> several dozen of these and here is the summary of what I learned:
>> 
>> 1. The pop up function is what breaks these sunroofs. The mechanism
>> (frame) that stops the roof is basically pot metal (as original) and when
>> you hit the tilt function there is no kill switch to stop the
>> motor/pressure - and over the years this is what causes the  breaks.
>> 
>> 2. The newer parts are improved but still a compromise.
>> 
>> 3. If you never use the tilt function your sunroof will last forever
>> 
>> 4. If you try and fix it yourself, or continue to use it you will bend a
>> tub that the cable is in between the headliner and roof and your repair
>> bill goes up considerably. Worst case - they have to remove the headliner.
>> 
>> 5. I got a $150 discount over the estimate for not making it worse once
>> the symptoms developed... Sort of a "you didn't screw it up worse"
>> discount ;-)
>> 
>> 6. Ernie (Ernst) said that I can use the pop up function with the
>> new/improved parts - just be aware that that as long as you hold the
>> switch it is applying pressure. No cut off once the stop is reached.
>> 
>> Personally I wish they hadn't come out with this "pop up" feature - but
>> there you have it...
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Ohlman said:
>> 
>> "any words of wisdom on why the sunroof quit working on my 87 300 SDL?
>> The pop up function will work, but when you try to open it in the normal
>> 

Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I don't understand you guys and your hated of sunroofs. On a warm spring 
evening, sunroof open, cruising some backroads with good tunes playing, thats a 
good time..
-Curt

On Saturday, March 2, 2019, 2:47:43 PM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > If I end up with another old MB with a sunroof, I'll MIG it closed and
> sealed!

Duct tape would look better, be easier, and likely work better.  Plus, it won't
harm the resale value as much!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> If I end up with another old MB with a sunroof, I'll MIG it closed and
> sealed!

Duct tape would look better, be easier, and likely work better.  Plus, it won't
harm the resale value as much!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 When it comes to sunroofs I figure whatever I pay to somebody who really knows 
what they're doing is money well spent. I bought uncle Kent's booklet on 'em 
and still managed to not understand...
-Curt

On Saturday, March 2, 2019, 1:28:00 PM EST, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 In the last two refueling there were no issues. Checking the fuel tank vent is 
on my list of things to do, but kinda down there.
Replaced the glow plug relay and now I’m waiting for new Yokohama to be 
installed. PO had 205 vice 195 on it. I chose original Size since I have often 
proved I can’t out think those German engineers.
When I get home from getting the new tires, I’m going to replace the front 
struts and the upper mounts. 
I have to stand an overtime watch tomorrow but on Monday I intend to clean the 
carpets and really really clean the cabin. 
The other random thing I’ll have to start thinking about is the sunroof. The PO 
said that one of the lifting arms is broken. This looks to be obvious when you 
try to raise the roof. One side starts to come up on the other side does not 
move. I’m thinking that Repair may not be too fun. Has anyone done that one?
I feel that I still have a lot to learn about W124s but so far so good. 

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Vent line from tank  to above the rear axle is plugged.  Mud daubers like it. 
> There is a rubber "flapper or door" on the end of the tube.
> 
> Craig via Mercedes wrote on 2/26/19 11:51 AM:
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:39:22 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> ... Something that just occurred which
>>> kind of freaked me out a little bit is that I stopped to put fuel in it
>>> and I go to take the fuel cap off the furl tank is pressurized. WTF
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[OK Don via Mercedes]

If I end up with another old MB with a sunroof, I'll MIG it closed and
sealed!

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 1:19 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks. That’s awesome. Also it made my heart feel all warm and fuzzy to
> re-read some of Herr Doktor’s emails.
> The glow plugs tested perfect.
> “Martha” is preoccupied with important family issues but I’m sure he will
> have a good product that I should use on my carpet’s and on my MB Tex and
> on my headliner.
> We bought a new carpet cleaner last month and it has an attachment that I
> may use on the carpets. I’d like to get them as clean as possible and then
> buy some correct floor mats to fit on top. I think I may monkey around with
> the sunroof just enough to see if I can get it to slide open even with the
> broken pop-up feature. Or, like Wilton suggests, leave itclosed. On the
> spectrum of DYI-Er I’m probably about in the middle. Clearly this sounds
> like something that a more upper echelon DYI er would do.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 2, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:27:12 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Replaced the glow plug relay ...
> >
> > Did that fix the problem? How did the glow plugs turn out?
> >
> >
> >> ... I’m going to replace the front struts and the upper mounts.
> >
> > Have those been showing signs of problems?
> >
> >
> >> ... on Monday I intend to clean the carpets and really really clean the
> >> cabin.
> >
> > Maybe I should bring ours by ... :-)
> >
> > What do you use to clean carpets?
> >
> >
> >> The other random thing I’ll have to start thinking about is the
> >> sunroof. The PO said that one of the lifting arms is broken. This looks
> >> to be obvious when you try to raise the roof. One side starts to come
> >> up on the other side does not move. I’m thinking that Repair may not be
> >> too fun.
> >
> > From the past emails on the subject (listed below), I'm thinking the
> same.
> >
> >
> >> Has anyone done that one?
> >
> > Not I. You could follow Wilton's advice and leave it closed ...
> >
> >
> >> I feel that I still have a lot to learn about W124s but so far so good.
> >
> > I know that feeling!
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > ===
> >
> > From: tom savage 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: Sunroof Repair
> > Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:54:27 -0500
> >
> >
> > Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
> >> This sunroof discussion is helpful as well as scary.  I really like the
> >> tilt feature and use it almost exclusively.  Does anyone know if the
> >> slide function works when the tilt arm breaks? Will it close when it
> >> breaks? Thanks,
> >> Dwight
> >
> > Dunno, depends on it's position when it breaks, I guess.  There is a
> > special tool to manually close the sunroof should it break.  Below is an
> > old post on the subject.  For this reason, I've never used the tilt
> > feature on any of my cars so equipped.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > [MB] sunroof not working on 126 (300 SDL)
> > Bill Brandt wlb at lanset.com
> > Wed Feb 20 18:28:04 MST 2002
> >
> > I might add to what Richard has said - I recently had to have my 86 300E
> > sunroof repaired and I remember enough from the list to not even consider
> > trying to "fix it" myself - I took it to a good independent who has done
> > several dozen of these and here is the summary of what I learned:
> >
> > 1. The pop up function is what breaks these sunroofs. The mechanism
> > (frame) that stops the roof is basically pot metal (as original) and when
> > you hit the tilt function there is no kill switch to stop the
> > motor/pressure - and over the years this is what causes the  breaks.
> >
> > 2. The newer parts are improved but still a compromise.
> >
> > 3. If you never use the tilt function your sunroof will last forever
> >
> > 4. If you try and fix it yourself, or continue to use it you will bend a
> > tub that the cable is in between the headliner and roof and your repair
> > bill goes up considerably. Worst case - they have to remove the
> headliner.
> >
> > 5. I got a $150 discount over the estimate for not making it worse once
> > the symptoms developed... Sort of a "you didn't screw it up worse"
> > discount ;-)
> >
> > 6. Ernie (Ernst) said that I can use the pop up function with the
> > new/improved parts - just be aware that that as long as you hold the
> > switch it is applying pressure. No cut off once the stop is reached.
> >
> > Personally I wish they hadn't come out with this "pop up" feature - but
> > there you have it...
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Ohlman said:
> >
> > "any words of wisdom on why the sunroof quit working on my 87 300 SDL?
> > The pop up function will work, but when you try to open it in the normal
> > fashion the passenger side drops down but the drivers side stays fully
> up.
> > If you keep holding the switch the fuse will blow.  Any BTDT?"
> >
> > Good 

Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Thanks. That’s awesome. Also it made my heart feel all warm and fuzzy to 
re-read some of Herr Doktor’s emails.
The glow plugs tested perfect.
“Martha” is preoccupied with important family issues but I’m sure he will have 
a good product that I should use on my carpet’s and on my MB Tex and on my 
headliner. 
We bought a new carpet cleaner last month and it has an attachment that I may 
use on the carpets. I’d like to get them as clean as possible and then buy some 
correct floor mats to fit on top. I think I may monkey around with the sunroof 
just enough to see if I can get it to slide open even with the broken pop-up 
feature. Or, like Wilton suggests, leave itclosed. On the spectrum of DYI-Er 
I’m probably about in the middle. Clearly this sounds like something that a 
more upper echelon DYI er would do. 

Bob R

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> On Mar 2, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:27:12 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Replaced the glow plug relay ...
> 
> Did that fix the problem? How did the glow plugs turn out?
> 
> 
>> ... I’m going to replace the front struts and the upper mounts.
> 
> Have those been showing signs of problems?
> 
> 
>> ... on Monday I intend to clean the carpets and really really clean the
>> cabin.
> 
> Maybe I should bring ours by ... :-)
> 
> What do you use to clean carpets?
> 
> 
>> The other random thing I’ll have to start thinking about is the
>> sunroof. The PO said that one of the lifting arms is broken. This looks
>> to be obvious when you try to raise the roof. One side starts to come
>> up on the other side does not move. I’m thinking that Repair may not be
>> too fun.
> 
> From the past emails on the subject (listed below), I'm thinking the same.
> 
> 
>> Has anyone done that one?
> 
> Not I. You could follow Wilton's advice and leave it closed ...
> 
> 
>> I feel that I still have a lot to learn about W124s but so far so good. 
> 
> I know that feeling!
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> ===
> 
> From: tom savage 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Sunroof Repair
> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:54:27 -0500
> 
> 
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
>> This sunroof discussion is helpful as well as scary.  I really like the
>> tilt feature and use it almost exclusively.  Does anyone know if the
>> slide function works when the tilt arm breaks? Will it close when it
>> breaks? Thanks,
>> Dwight
> 
> Dunno, depends on it's position when it breaks, I guess.  There is a 
> special tool to manually close the sunroof should it break.  Below is an 
> old post on the subject.  For this reason, I've never used the tilt 
> feature on any of my cars so equipped.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> [MB] sunroof not working on 126 (300 SDL)
> Bill Brandt wlb at lanset.com
> Wed Feb 20 18:28:04 MST 2002
> 
> I might add to what Richard has said - I recently had to have my 86 300E
> sunroof repaired and I remember enough from the list to not even consider
> trying to "fix it" myself - I took it to a good independent who has done
> several dozen of these and here is the summary of what I learned:
> 
> 1. The pop up function is what breaks these sunroofs. The mechanism
> (frame) that stops the roof is basically pot metal (as original) and when
> you hit the tilt function there is no kill switch to stop the
> motor/pressure - and over the years this is what causes the  breaks.
> 
> 2. The newer parts are improved but still a compromise.
> 
> 3. If you never use the tilt function your sunroof will last forever
> 
> 4. If you try and fix it yourself, or continue to use it you will bend a
> tub that the cable is in between the headliner and roof and your repair
> bill goes up considerably. Worst case - they have to remove the headliner.
> 
> 5. I got a $150 discount over the estimate for not making it worse once
> the symptoms developed... Sort of a "you didn't screw it up worse"
> discount ;-)
> 
> 6. Ernie (Ernst) said that I can use the pop up function with the
> new/improved parts - just be aware that that as long as you hold the
> switch it is applying pressure. No cut off once the stop is reached.
> 
> Personally I wish they hadn't come out with this "pop up" feature - but
> there you have it...
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Ohlman said:
> 
> "any words of wisdom on why the sunroof quit working on my 87 300 SDL?
> The pop up function will work, but when you try to open it in the normal
> fashion the passenger side drops down but the drivers side stays fully up.
> If you keep holding the switch the fuse will blow.  Any BTDT?"
> 
> Good evening, Mike --
> 
> Check the archives.  I posted a long post about it several years ago after
> my wrestling match.  Don't remember what all I said, but the gist was:
> "the learning curve is way to high to scale for a DIYer and the benefits
> (one sunroof repair every 15 years) are not worth the ascent."  Oh yeah,
> this applies only to post-86 MBs (the sliding-only 

Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes I think I just found my next piece of equipment I need to buy

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kaleb sez:

>I do not have a set of wheels for sale.

Sorry. I guess these aren't yours then. I assumed that in Nowata you would be 
the only one with anything Mercedes related for sale. I was mistaken. (wrong). 

Maybe you should pick them up. 

https://tulsa.craigslist.org/wto/d/nowata-mercedes-wheels/6830379344.html

Rick


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[MBZ] 1989 Mercedes-Benz 560 Series 2dr Coupe 560SL Roadster 64k Miles $34, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

http://usimotors.com/Knoxville-Tennessee-37919/Used-1989-Mercedes-Benz-560-Series-2dr-Coupe-560SL-Roadster/VDP/06c439dc-379e-40bd-a074-40f11ac8aabb

My cousin saw this and sent me pics of it.  Looks really nice

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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:27:12 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Replaced the glow plug relay ...

Did that fix the problem? How did the glow plugs turn out?


> ... I’m going to replace the front struts and the upper mounts.

Have those been showing signs of problems?


> ... on Monday I intend to clean the carpets and really really clean the
> cabin.

Maybe I should bring ours by ... :-)

What do you use to clean carpets?


> The other random thing I’ll have to start thinking about is the
> sunroof. The PO said that one of the lifting arms is broken. This looks
> to be obvious when you try to raise the roof. One side starts to come
> up on the other side does not move. I’m thinking that Repair may not be
> too fun.

From the past emails on the subject (listed below), I'm thinking the same.


> Has anyone done that one?

Not I. You could follow Wilton's advice and leave it closed ...


> I feel that I still have a lot to learn about W124s but so far so good. 

I know that feeling!


Craig

===

From: tom savage 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sunroof Repair
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:54:27 -0500


Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
> This sunroof discussion is helpful as well as scary.  I really like the
> tilt feature and use it almost exclusively.  Does anyone know if the
> slide function works when the tilt arm breaks? Will it close when it
> breaks? Thanks,
> Dwight

Dunno, depends on it's position when it breaks, I guess.  There is a 
special tool to manually close the sunroof should it break.  Below is an 
old post on the subject.  For this reason, I've never used the tilt 
feature on any of my cars so equipped.

Tom


[MB] sunroof not working on 126 (300 SDL)
Bill Brandt wlb at lanset.com
Wed Feb 20 18:28:04 MST 2002

I might add to what Richard has said - I recently had to have my 86 300E
sunroof repaired and I remember enough from the list to not even consider
trying to "fix it" myself - I took it to a good independent who has done
several dozen of these and here is the summary of what I learned:

1. The pop up function is what breaks these sunroofs. The mechanism
(frame) that stops the roof is basically pot metal (as original) and when
you hit the tilt function there is no kill switch to stop the
motor/pressure - and over the years this is what causes the  breaks.

2. The newer parts are improved but still a compromise.

3. If you never use the tilt function your sunroof will last forever

4. If you try and fix it yourself, or continue to use it you will bend a
tub that the cable is in between the headliner and roof and your repair
bill goes up considerably. Worst case - they have to remove the headliner.

5. I got a $150 discount over the estimate for not making it worse once
the symptoms developed... Sort of a "you didn't screw it up worse"
discount ;-)

6. Ernie (Ernst) said that I can use the pop up function with the
new/improved parts - just be aware that that as long as you hold the
switch it is applying pressure. No cut off once the stop is reached.

Personally I wish they hadn't come out with this "pop up" feature - but
there you have it...

Bill



Mike Ohlman said:

"any words of wisdom on why the sunroof quit working on my 87 300 SDL?
The pop up function will work, but when you try to open it in the normal
fashion the passenger side drops down but the drivers side stays fully up.
If you keep holding the switch the fuse will blow.  Any BTDT?"

Good evening, Mike --

Check the archives.  I posted a long post about it several years ago after
my wrestling match.  Don't remember what all I said, but the gist was:
"the learning curve is way to high to scale for a DIYer and the benefits
(one sunroof repair every 15 years) are not worth the ascent."  Oh yeah,
this applies only to post-86 MBs (the sliding-only tops are a POC (piece
of cake) compared to the Rube Goldberg-inspired pop-up sunroofs).  A tip
while we're on the subject: to ensure longevity of post-86s, manuall
assist the rear when you utilize the pop-up feature.  Stop the switch
immediately when it is raised up.  Same going down.  Same front, same
rear.  They are "tender" and have a definite length of life.

Richard Easley
Waco, Texas



From: Mitch Haley 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sunroof Repair
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 08:27:16 -0400

tom savage wrote:
> 
> 3. If you never use the tilt function your sunroof will last forever

Thanks for that repost, Tom. It was written about a month before I
found MBZ.org. It's clear that I never understood the tilting roof,
but I think I do now. You can pop the back edge of the S/R panel up,
or you can retract it into the headliner. For some reason I assumed
that it popped up and then if you opened it fully, it would slide
above the roof. 

It also sounds like you can preserve the tilt-up roof if you don't
tilt it up all the way, or if you find a way to put a microswitch
on the tilt mechanism 

[MBZ] Loosed Coolant, cut hoose

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Got a low coolant warning light on the $500E300 yesterday. Poured some coolant 
in it. Just now checked it, low again. Filled it again and squeezed the upper 
rad hose and heard it hissing. Felt around, it had been cut through in 2 places 
by the belt, which would take movement of like 1.5”. I’m guessing that means 
the mounts are shot?  Ugh. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I’m thinking that Repair may not be too fun.

By all accounts, your assessment is correct.  I have not done one, though I have
a car that needs it.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Duplicate Messages

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Hi All,
For some reason I am getting 2 copies of each email.  Any way to stop this?
Larry
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Re: [MBZ] I Picked up the “Sherman Tank” W124

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

In the last two refueling there were no issues. Checking the fuel tank vent is 
on my list of things to do, but kinda down there.
Replaced the glow plug relay and now I’m waiting for new Yokohama to be 
installed. PO had 205 vice 195 on it. I chose original Size since I have often 
proved I can’t out think those German engineers.
When I get home from getting the new tires, I’m going to replace the front 
struts and the upper mounts. 
I have to stand an overtime watch tomorrow but on Monday I intend to clean the 
carpets and really really clean the cabin. 
The other random thing I’ll have to start thinking about is the sunroof. The PO 
said that one of the lifting arms is broken. This looks to be obvious when you 
try to raise the roof. One side starts to come up on the other side does not 
move. I’m thinking that Repair may not be too fun. Has anyone done that one?
I feel that I still have a lot to learn about W124s but so far so good. 

Bob R

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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Vent line from tank  to above the rear axle is plugged.  Mud daubers like it. 
> There is a rubber "flapper or door" on the end of the tube.
> 
> Craig via Mercedes wrote on 2/26/19 11:51 AM:
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:39:22 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> ... Something that just occurred which
>>> kind of freaked me out a little bit is that I stopped to put fuel in it
>>> and I go to take the fuel cap off the furl tank is pressurized. WTF
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes I think I just found my next piece of equipment I need to buy

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I do not have a set of wheels for sale. 

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> On Mar 2, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb sez:
> 
>> Not unless somebody wants to buy some cars off me so I have the cash
> 
> If you want to sell stuff, you have to market it, and probably to a wider 
> audience.
> The only thing you have currently listed on CL is the cabriolet and a set of 
> W210 wheels.
> 
> I might be interested in the wheels.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes I think I just found my next piece of equipment I need to buy

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kaleb sez:

>Not unless somebody wants to buy some cars off me so I have the cash

If you want to sell stuff, you have to market it, and probably to a wider 
audience.
The only thing you have currently listed on CL is the cabriolet and a set of 
W210 wheels.

I might be interested in the wheels.

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 SLK 6 speed stick - $2650 (West Ashley)

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 06:54:38 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> These are fairly desirable right?  Doesn’t look bad, reasonably priced
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-2001-slk-6-speed-stick/6831186103.html

I'm glad we are not in North Carolina yet ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes I think I just found my next piece of equipment I need to buy

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Not unless somebody wants to buy some cars off me so I have the cash 

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> On Mar 2, 2019, at 11:00 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So, Kaleb. Are you driving it home today???
> 
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:40 AM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 06:57:37 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
 what is "it"?
>> 
>> Thank you, Rick, for the picture of the listing, it is very informative!
>> 
>> Yes, that is a monster!
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes I think I just found my next piece of equipment I need to buy

[OK Don via Mercedes]

So, Kaleb. Are you driving it home today???

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:40 AM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 06:57:37 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
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>
> > > what is "it"?
>
> Thank you, Rick, for the picture of the listing, it is very informative!
>
> Yes, that is a monster!
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes I think I just found my next piece of equipment I need to buy

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 06:57:37 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
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> > what is "it"?

Thank you, Rick, for the picture of the listing, it is very informative!

Yes, that is a monster!


Craig

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[MBZ] 2001 SLK 6 speed stick - $2650 (West Ashley)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

These are fairly desirable right?  Doesn’t look bad, reasonably priced
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-2001-slk-6-speed-stick/6831186103.html


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