Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

but you had to be there yesterday for a test drive or you dont get to 
bid.  Look for it on CL for a crack price.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 4/7/19 8:15 PM:

Asking price $2450, to be followed by one round of 'last best offer' if more 
than one buyer offers the full ask.

Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Oh! the horrors!  The US of A can't survive 3 days without green 
slime!   (or so we are told!)


Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 4/7/19 6:27 PM:

Mmmm, avocado...



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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

for a room, it takes longer to set up and clean than to spray.  I 
sprayed a house and garage in one day the first time I used one.    Be 
sure to purge the thing with mineral oil so the oil is in the valves.  
Otherwise they rust and set you back $60 or more.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 4/7/19 2:11 PM:
For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it 
seems like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom 
in less than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it 
that you absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  
I'll let that dry a bit then hit it with white paint.


Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I 
generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a 
bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna 
use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got a 
respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan in 
a window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around 
other than where you point it.


These things are da bomb!




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[MBZ] OT: Linebacker II - Where's Wilton

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

A discussion of Gen LeMay morphed into a discussion of bombing tactics, which 
turned into a discussion of whether SAC planning of Linebacker missions was 
silly...

Can you add anything to the below, or refute any of it?

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Curtis-LeMay/5-2208854/?page=2#i78220777

Originally Posted By couchlord:
And yet when SAC got the go ahead in December 1972, Omaha FUBAR'd it bad. After 
about a dozen losses they finally let the local commanders take over and get it 
done.

Zoinks replied:
True enough at first. Mission Planning didn't rely on any sort of deception, 
and the North Vietnamese could guess at the routes from where the tankers were 
orbiting. But, that was also true of most of the air attacks in the North. On 
the other hand, there was also a belief that the little black boxes would be 
magical, and to an extent they were. But in the end, Mission Planning really 
under estimated that amount of missile shots that the North was capable of 
making. Then the North ran out of missiles. Literally. And there were still 
plenty of Buffs. 

Bigger Hammer replied with link from Wikipedia:
The SAC H.Q. botched those missions BADLY due to Lazy - stupid planning. Each 
night the mission was IDENTICAL - each "cell" of three B-52s flew the EXACT 
same altitude, exact same speed, exact same route, exact same turning point, 
exact same exit path. To make matters worse, the mission template called for a 
severe turn out after bomb drop which turned the jammers antenna away from the 
ground at a time the B-52 was most vulnerable, (bomb doors wide open, steep 
turn, most radar visible with least amount of E.C.M. That is when the majority 
of losses occurred. The N.V.A. were no dummies. It was like shooting skeet. If 
you know exactly where the targets will be, speed, altitude, course, where they 
will turn out and reduce their defense capability, ... even B-52s become easy 
targets, especially for the SAMs that were designed & built specifically to 
shoot them down and having the Soviet Air Defense experts there to assist ...

The Crews basically mutinied and said, "change up the damn attack plan or find 
some other idiots to be your clay pigeons"... SAC figured out that 
unsustainable losses were a "Bad Thing" and changed up the attack plans (no 
stupid tight post target turnouts wrecking the E.C.M. coverage, varied courses, 
speeds, altitudes & routes, ect... The mixed in a B-52 D into each cell of 
three B-52 (usually with two "G" models as the "D" had more powerful E.C.M. 
Jamming better equipped for providing E.C.M. jamming in Vietnam against the 
SAM-2 threat so the "D" model E.C.M. coverage helped protect its newer, yet 
weaker, "G" model brothers.

Operation Linebacker II - B-52s over North Vietnam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Linebacker_II

Couchlord responded:

Indeed. It was even worse than that.

The turn out took them into the jet stream and an instant -100mph ground speed 
hit, increasing their SAM exposure time accordingly.
The turn out was not necessary, they were dropping iron bombs from 40K' not 
10MT nukes.
The cells were split into 3 groups of attacks each night split by exactly 3 
hours. Each attack, as mentioned above, flew the exact same routes to the exact 
same targets. The 3 hour gap allowed the NVA to reload their SAM sites.
The same targets were attacked on consecutive nights with the exact same timing 
and routes, as mentioned above.
The SAM depots were not attacked.
The B-52's were ordered not to jink.
Splitting each nights attack into 3 waves separated by 3 hours diluted the Wild 
Weasel and CAP support.
The chaff corridor was poorly timed and placed.
There was a captured SA2 radar van located in Florida, I forget where. SAC 
never bothered to fly a B-52 at it. When all the B-52's were getting hit at the 
turn out, SAC finally had a go at the captured van and then saw the effect the 
turn out had.
SAC staff knew it was FUBAR but they were all too scared to object. It's an 
excellent lesson in inept top down management. Some of this must be a legacy of 
Lemay.

SAC caught a few breaks. NVA had relocated about half their SA-2 sites to the 
south to cover the Ho Chi Min trail. The campaign against Hanoi took them by 
surprise. SA-2 preparation was labor intensive, they could only prepare about 
50 missiles each night. It took the NVA a few days to relocated their Sams and 
ramp up the missile prep.

Oh, and one night a B-52d laid a spread of bombs across the Hanoi International 
Airport terminal. It was not on the target list. Accident?

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Re: [MBZ] OT 1964 Citabria airplane

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yup - very fun airplane. I flew one to tow gliders for the University of OK
soaring club for a couple of years and rented it other times to do
aerobatics. Loved it.

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 12:15 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A Citabria is actually an (as in the only) aircraft I've had some
> experience with. After 'Nam, a friend of mine returned from overseas. He
> stayed with me for a while because I lived not far from the little airport
> where he kept it. I found that I was a good "seat of the pants" pilot. He
> taught me a few things. Want to see a stall and tailspin? Then just let go
> of the controls and instantly you're flying straight and level. Barrel roll
> and look up through the greenhouse canopy at the earth.  I loved it! What
> an easy plane to fly.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd
> Thursby via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 8:36 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> Subject: [MBZ] OT 1964 Citabria airplane
>
> This would be fun but a bit spendy
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1083165068553481/
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 10:22:19 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Gotcha.  Makes total sense. I know people who pressurized first with
> nitrogen because it was an inexpensive and easy way to identify
> potential leaks as well.

In making high vacuum systems in our physics lab at UT Austin, the
students using them made of all stainless steel with metal gaskets.
Then they would wrap heating tape around all the pipes, start their
pumps and bake the system at 400 deg.C to get rid of all of the moisture
and other corruptions. Then they could get vacuums of 10^-11 to 10^-13.

Purging with a dry gas is a better substitute for car AC systems.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On April 7, 2019 at 8:56 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> That's nice but I don't see the axing price

Asking price $2450, to be followed by one round of 'last best offer' if more 
than one buyer offers the full ask. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's nice but I don't see the axing price

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] So it has gummed up fuel system, bent rods, and a leaking evaporator, it is the trifecta, oh yea, and a crack price

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$5k turd

--FT

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[MBZ] So it has gummed up fuel system, bent rods, and a leaking evaporator, it is the trifecta, oh yea, and a crack price

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-2-tone/173865276016?hash=item287b2d9270:g:hyUAAOSwYqVcqXS5


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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Mmmm, avocado...
-- 
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[MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve used one of these. They can’t be beat for painting large areas, like walls 
and ceilings. Once you get a hang for the volume of paint they put down, you 
can knock out a single wall in a minute or less if everything is masked.

When we built our house in Wisconsin I painted the interior with a bulk 
sprayer. 3,000 SF two story home, did the whole place in a couple of hours. 
Granted, it was just drywall with no trim or fixtures in place, but that gives 
you an idea of how quickly one can paint large areas with these in short order. 
Doing exteriors is even better.

-D


> On Apr 7, 2019, at 5:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does it work better than paint rollers?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it seems like 
>> a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom in less than 
>> 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it that you absolutely 
>> cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  I'll let that dry a bit then 
>> hit it with white paint.
>> 
>> Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I generally 
>> do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a bother to get it 
>> going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna use it next to spray 
>> stain on the outside of the house.  I got a respirator to keep unwanted 
>> paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan in a window to blow air out, but it 
>> doesn't seem to leave much around other than where you point it.
>> 
>> These things are da bomb!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

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Does it work better than paint rollers?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it seems like 
> a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom in less than 30min, 
> walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it that you absolutely cannot 
> roll paint on).  It looks really good.  I'll let that dry a bit then hit it 
> with white paint.
> 
> Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I generally do 
> blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a bother to get it 
> going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna use it next to spray 
> stain on the outside of the house.  I got a respirator to keep unwanted paint 
> spray out of my lungs, put a fan in a window to blow air out, but it doesn't 
> seem to leave much around other than where you point it.
> 
> These things are da bomb!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Oh yeah. One wall in less than 5 minutes, maybe more like 3.  It’s not a huge 
room but it goes fast. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:29 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 15:11:58 -0400
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it seems 
>> like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom in less 
>> than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it that you 
>> absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  I'll let that 
>> dry a bit then hit it with white paint.
>> 
>> Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I 
>> generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a 
>> bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna 
>> use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got a 
>> respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan in a 
>> window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around other 
>> than where you point it.
>> 
>> These things are da bomb!
> 
>> --FT
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> Could you do a wall with it as fast as you could do the wall with a roller?
> I did the shop with a pretty big rental sprayer and it was fast.
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting history

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Boogered it up by painting it red, now it has a bunch of rust.  I bet I could 
sell my 74 for more, as it is more original and has no rust out.

clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Apr 6, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 15:11:58 -0400
Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  wrote:

> For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it seems 
> like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom in less 
> than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it that you 
> absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  I'll let that 
> dry a bit then hit it with white paint.
> 
> Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I 
> generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a 
> bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna 
> use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got a 
> respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan in a 
> window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around other 
> than where you point it.
> 
> These things are da bomb!
 
> --FT

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Could you do a wall with it as fast as you could do the wall with a roller?
I did the shop with a pretty big rental sprayer and it was fast.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT EV airplanes in the near future

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On April 7, 2019 at 3:49 PM archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Luckily someone discovered that R-12 freon was the culprit, and DuPont just 
> happened to have a factory ready to make r-134a, so the government banned r-12
> and saved us from freezing.
> 
> Since global heating is now the problem, it would seem that if we all started 
> using R-12 again, the resultant global cooling would solve the problem and we 
> wouldn't have to worry about CO2.

But then we discovered that R134a was a greenhouse gas, not to mention a cheap 
commodity item like R12 used to be, so now we need R1234yf, which fortunately 
can be purchased for less than $100/lb now that it's in wide distribution. 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BBXYFN9

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Re: [MBZ] OT EV airplanes in the near future

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Clay Monroe wrote:
> That was not on the curricula in my elementary school.  I did not learn of 
> that until Maggie Thatcher wanted to undermine the coal miners.  Until that 
> time, we were all going to freeze in the coming ice ages.  There was  much 
> undisputed science supporting that fact.

Luckily someone discovered that R-12 freon was the culprit, and DuPont just 
happened to have a factory ready to make r-134a, so the government banned r-12
and saved us from freezing.

Since global heating is now the problem, it would seem that if we all started 
using R-12 again, the resultant global cooling would solve the problem and we 
wouldn't have to worry about CO2.
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[MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it seems 
like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom in less 
than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it that you 
absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  I'll let that 
dry a bit then hit it with white paint.


Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I 
generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a 
bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna 
use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got a 
respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan in a 
window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around other 
than where you point it.


These things are da bomb!

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Re: [MBZ] OT hey y’all ho mah beer’n watchiss

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On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 17:57:35 -0700
Jim Cathey via Mercedes  wrote:

> > Had no idea it was just a .22 they shot each other with. 
> 
> No 'just' about it.  When a nameless person and nameless friends decided
> to fill a scrap vehicle with lead, the little .22 rifle clearly had the most 
> penetrating
> power.  (Everything else was a pistol.)  The .22 is deadly.  What it's not 
> that
> good at is stopping power.  Instead, you bleed to death.  A bit later.
> 
> My grandfather and his neighbor friend used to shoot at each other.
> The game was to get close, make the other duck.  .22's, I can't imagine
> actually doing this, but I have no reason to believe he was lying.  There
> were no vests involved, just lead bees buzzing around your head.
> Jim
...
While I was working weekends at a charity hospital in a large Florida city, 
small, cheap, 22 cal revolvers (Saturday Night Specials) became available in 
Florida; possibly because their importation had been banned and foreign arms 
manufacturers such as Röhm Gesellschaft had set up plants in Miami.

Many bar patrons in poorer sections of town used them to settle disagreements 
on Saturday night, with the losers of the arguments being brought to us for 
surgery and blood transfusions.

As Jim said, a person can slowly bleed to death from a 22 cal, so the big 
problem was finding the bullet. If you can find the bullet you can trace its 
path from entry hole to bullet, and the bleeding vessel will be somewhere along 
that path. Precisely pinpointing the location of the bullet was not always 
possible with the xray technology of the 1950s, so the surgeon would cut in to 
the bullet, and if the bleeding vessel was not there, he would cut along the 
path from bullet hole to bullet. This was time consuming because small vessels 
that were cut along the path had to be tied off. The result was that such 
patients could use up a "lot" of blood.
Manys the Saturday night we would run out of blood completely except for rare 
types; all due to the infamous Saturday Night Special.

I still have a pretty little chrome plated Saturday Night Special revolver that 
I seem to remember was given to me by a deputy at the ER. My young son and I 
took it and a box of ammo out a deserted road and shot the whole box at a tin 
can floating in a ditch ten or fifteen feet away. Neither of us hit the can, 
and we were both pretty good shots back then. They were not very accurate..

Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Perpetual motion machine

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Just for fun, have a look at this guys work.
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Re: [MBZ] OT 1964 Citabria airplane

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A Citabria is actually an (as in the only) aircraft I've had some experience 
with. After 'Nam, a friend of mine returned from overseas. He stayed with me 
for a while because I lived not far from the little airport where he kept it. I 
found that I was a good "seat of the pants" pilot. He taught me a few things. 
Want to see a stall and tailspin? Then just let go of the controls and 
instantly you're flying straight and level. Barrel roll and look up through the 
greenhouse canopy at the earth.  I loved it! What an easy plane to fly.

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This would be fun but a bit spendy

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1083165068553481/

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Re: [MBZ] OT 1964 Citabria airplane

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This is a typical Citabria ad:

*'67 CHAMPION 7KCAB CITABRIA*

• $58,000 • *OR BEST OFFER!* • TSN:1960, SMOH:420 ACA metal spar wings. ACA
aluminum lndg gear. Spades, 60A Alt., Skytech lt wt starter. Recently OH'd
Slick mags. Recently OH'd fuel servo/spider. 5pt Hooker Harness. Wingtip
strobes. Well maintained and loved by A/IA owners. Turnkey airplane. 2
sets of wheel pants, SS round and streamlined tailwire sets, and spare
seat. Checkout and/or delivery negotiable. See SPEC page for details. Never
planned to sell it, but need a cruiser. Located at KSEE. Contact Robert
Snow at 214-557-2673. $58K/best offer. NO BROKERS. • Contact Robert J. Snow
,
Owner - located Santee, CA USA • Telephone: 619.993.9848 • Posted March 31,
2019 • *Display Specs Page
*

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:37 AM OK Don  wrote:

> I'd wonder what is wrong with it at that price, or it's the bottom model
> of the line - too little power to do much more than cruise the
> neighborhood. The specific model of Citabria matters - I set the 7KCAB as
> the minimum that I'd want.
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:32 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
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>
>> As airplanes go, that is the cheep end of the scale, price wise. Really
>> fun
>> to fly, not fast , just fun.
>> If it has the wing spar update you can do aerobatics with it. Nothing to
>> violent, but loops and rolls etc. If you are good enough pilot.
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>> > This would be fun but a bit spendy
>> >
>> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1083165068553481/
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT 1964 Citabria airplane

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I'd wonder what is wrong with it at that price, or it's the bottom model of
the line - too little power to do much more than cruise the neighborhood.
The specific model of Citabria matters - I set the 7KCAB as the minimum
that I'd want.

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:32 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> As airplanes go, that is the cheep end of the scale, price wise. Really fun
> to fly, not fast , just fun.
> If it has the wing spar update you can do aerobatics with it. Nothing to
> violent, but loops and rolls etc. If you are good enough pilot.
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> > This would be fun but a bit spendy
> >
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Starting the 1909 Blitzen-Benz

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Wow

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> On Apr 7, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> I guess i shouldn't complain if my $500E300 takes a minute to light off
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA
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Re: [MBZ] OT 1964 Citabria airplane

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As airplanes go, that is the cheep end of the scale, price wise. Really fun
to fly, not fast , just fun.
If it has the wing spar update you can do aerobatics with it. Nothing to
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> This would be fun but a bit spendy
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1083165068553481/
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[MBZ] Starting the 1909 Blitzen-Benz

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I guess i shouldn't complain if my $500E300 takes a minute to light off

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This would be fun but a bit spendy

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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Standard beer equpiment comes with a regulator to hold gas pressure on the 
carbonation keg between zero and 25 psi.  Should be easy enough to rig up a 
connection to allow you to pressurize the system to 25 psi, let it sit for a 
bit, then vent, or to flow gas into the high side and apply suction to the low 
side and sweep out the moisture.
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I bought a very small CO2 cylinder for about $80, and a regulator for about 
$50.  Tank refill is $15.

Sounds like Peter's idea is cheaper?  How do you regulate that gas flow?
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

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I use CO2 for beer, a 10 lb tank is around $45.  Should last you the rest of 
your life without an issue.
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gotcha.  Makes total sense. I know people who pressurized first with nitrogen 
because it was an inexpensive and easy way to identify potential leaks as well.

How much is a cylinder of nitrogen from your welding place?

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> Physics!
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>> On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It takes a very long time to remove the water with a vacuum pump, it's 
>> "sticky" and has a fairly low vapor pressure.  If you purge with dry gas 
>> first you only have to get the stuff that stays a gas a room temp out.
>> 
>> The difficulty is that there is no mass movement of molecules in moderate to 
>> high vacuum, everything moves by diffusion.  That's not very fast for things 
>> that want to stick to the pipes and hoses.  Permanent neutral gasses diffuse 
>> through the pipes and hoses to the pump fairly quickly.
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

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Physics!

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> On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It takes a very long time to remove the water with a vacuum pump, it's 
> "sticky" and has a fairly low vapor pressure.  If you purge with dry gas 
> first you only have to get the stuff that stays a gas a room temp out.
> 
> The difficulty is that there is no mass movement of molecules in moderate to 
> high vacuum, everything moves by diffusion.  That's not very fast for things 
> that want to stick to the pipes and hoses.  Permanent neutral gasses diffuse 
> through the pipes and hoses to the pump fairly quickly.
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

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It takes a very long time to remove the water with a vacuum pump, it's "sticky" 
and has a fairly low vapor pressure.  If you purge with dry gas first you only 
have to get the stuff that stays a gas a room temp out.

The difficulty is that there is no mass movement of molecules in moderate to 
high vacuum, everything moves by diffusion.  That's not very fast for things 
that want to stick to the pipes and hoses.  Permanent neutral gasses diffuse 
through the pipes and hoses to the pump fairly quickly.
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

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I've had same experience on my house AC.  No purge, takes a long time, 
especially using a micron vacuum gauge.  Same pump, same gauge, far faster when 
system was purged with dry gas.
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On April 7, 2019 9:32:03 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Max,
>
>I’m curious as to why purging with CO2 makes pulling a vacuum faster?
>The vacuum pump doesn’t care.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Job is done.  Finished up the AC about ten last night.  Still need to
>put the right front headlight back.  Wiper motor on that side has
>failed pointing straight up, so I'm going to try to correct that while
>it is out of the car.
>> 
>> Once the headlight is back in place, I'll go for a test drive and
>check if the evaporator leaks were fixed by the cliplight sealer.
>> 
>> I purged the system with dry CO2 (tank from a welding supply place)
>and then pulled a vacuum with my $60 Chinese vacuum pump.  It pulled
>down to 29.5 inches in minutes.  Purging with a dry gas makes that step
>so fast.
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

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No moisture in the air in the system.
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On April 7, 2019 9:32:03 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Max,
>
>I’m curious as to why purging with CO2 makes pulling a vacuum faster?
>The vacuum pump doesn’t care.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Job is done.  Finished up the AC about ten last night.  Still need to
>put the right front headlight back.  Wiper motor on that side has
>failed pointing straight up, so I'm going to try to correct that while
>it is out of the car.
>> 
>> Once the headlight is back in place, I'll go for a test drive and
>check if the evaporator leaks were fixed by the cliplight sealer.
>> 
>> I purged the system with dry CO2 (tank from a welding supply place)
>and then pulled a vacuum with my $60 Chinese vacuum pump.  It pulled
>down to 29.5 inches in minutes.  Purging with a dry gas makes that step
>so fast.
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>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

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Max,

I’m curious as to why purging with CO2 makes pulling a vacuum faster? The 
vacuum pump doesn’t care.

-D


> On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Job is done.  Finished up the AC about ten last night.  Still need to put the 
> right front headlight back.  Wiper motor on that side has failed pointing 
> straight up, so I'm going to try to correct that while it is out of the car.
> 
> Once the headlight is back in place, I'll go for a test drive and check if 
> the evaporator leaks were fixed by the cliplight sealer.
> 
> I purged the system with dry CO2 (tank from a welding supply place) and then 
> pulled a vacuum with my $60 Chinese vacuum pump.  It pulled down to 29.5 
> inches in minutes.  Purging with a dry gas makes that step so fast.
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Re: [MBZ] Receiver / Dryer for '95 E300

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Job is done.  Finished up the AC about ten last night.  Still need to put the 
right front headlight back.  Wiper motor on that side has failed pointing 
straight up, so I'm going to try to correct that while it is out of the car.

Once the headlight is back in place, I'll go for a test drive and check if the 
evaporator leaks were fixed by the cliplight sealer.

I purged the system with dry CO2 (tank from a welding supply place) and then 
pulled a vacuum with my $60 Chinese vacuum pump.  It pulled down to 29.5 inches 
in minutes.  Purging with a dry gas makes that step so fast.
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[MBZ] OT: Perpetual motion machine

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

All you need to do is hide batteries inside the generator coil windings...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01s25kxoW6c

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