date:20190408

That stuff worked great. Could buy it OTC but I have not seen it for ages. 

--FT
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> 
> My mother gave us a  sugar cube soaked in turpentine for bad coughs. I
> later found out that there is,a cough medicine called terpin hydrate.
> 
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> Wickford RI
> 
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 7:25 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> I recall that turpentine dripped on a sugar cube was
>> a cure for intestinal worms.  Grandma was full of such
>> folk remedies.  I still remember the taste!
>> 
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[MBZ] I am watching a 1974 Kung fu movie

And there are a lot of great old cars in it including some Benzes. One was a 
yellow and red taxi. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Turpentine

2019-04-08 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

My mother gave us a  sugar cube soaked in turpentine for bad coughs. I
later found out that there is,a cough medicine called terpin hydrate.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 7:25 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes  I recall that turpentine dripped on a sugar cube was
> a cure for intestinal worms.  Grandma was full of such
> folk remedies.  I still remember the taste!
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

2019-04-08 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

I do that.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 8:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  Like my grandparents, he probably reads the obituary page first every day
> to see who he knows has died?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > And you came across this why???
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 3:30 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/moss-bluff-la/james-groth-6535739
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> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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[MBZ] OT: The crack smoking-est crack smoker that ever smoked crack

https://vermont.craigslist.org/vgm/d/craftsbury-common-rare-et-atari-game/6860103140.html

So ET is a pretty famous Atari game because it was terrible. Atari ended up 
trashing many of them as "unsellable" at the Alamagordo dump in New Mexico. A 
few years ago they dug some up and sold them for like $50/each.
EBay right now has one, new in box, for $75...
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

You read obits too!
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On April 8, 2019 8:25:31 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>There have been a couple of them recently, they all start the same way.
>I'm wondering if they're all a hoax or if an original has spawned
>copycats.
>-Curt
>
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> wrote:  
> 
> And you came across this why???
>
>On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 3:30 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>
>>
>https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/moss-bluff-la/james-groth-6535739
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>of
>our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
>"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>who
>learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>fence
>for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

 There have been a couple of them recently, they all start the same way. I'm 
wondering if they're all a hoax or if an original has spawned copycats.
-Curt

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 wrote:  
 
 And you came across this why???

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> https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/moss-bluff-la/james-groth-6535739
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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

Yes, but that was a four year old one ...

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Like my grandparents, he probably reads the obituary page first every day
> to see who he knows has died?
>
> -D
>
>
-- 
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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

2019-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

My grandparents always read the obit first.  In fact, most old people I 
knew from my younger days did that.


On 4/8/2019 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Like my grandparents, he probably reads the obituary page first every day to 
see who he knows has died?

-D



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And you came across this why???

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https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/moss-bluff-la/james-groth-6535739


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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

Keep my phone book up to date (cross off the names)...
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wrote:
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>
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>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>
>>
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>of
>our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
>"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>who
>learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>fence
>for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

Like my grandparents, he probably reads the obituary page first every day to 
see who he knows has died?

-D


> On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> And you came across this why???
> 
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 3:30 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/moss-bluff-la/james-groth-6535739
>> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Turpentine

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:24:55 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I recall that turpentine dripped on a sugar cube was
> a cure for intestinal worms.  Grandma was full of such
> folk remedies.  I still remember the taste!

When I was living in Colorado a friend who lived in the Black Forest
commented about the milk his goats gave, "The milk is fine, as long as
you don't let them get into pine needles. Then it tastes like turpentine."

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

And you came across this why???

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/moss-bluff-la/james-groth-6535739
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Turpentine

Let us know how it works out!
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On April 8, 2019 5:51:04 PM EDT, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>For health?
>Has anyone ever heard of this?
>It sounds as if this is not some new wacko thing but has been around
>for a long time?  From the information online it looks like the
>petroleum product is not used for health but the essential oil from
>tree sap is.  This link is transcript of radio show and may be
>interesting?
>
>https://oneradionetwork.com/archive/turpentine-miracle-medicine-candida-cleaner-transcript/
>
>Has anyone heard about this... ever?
>Thanks.
>tin
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Turpentine

2019-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

I recall that turpentine dripped on a sugar cube was
a cure for intestinal worms.  Grandma was full of such
folk remedies.  I still remember the taste!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

2019-04-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Already have my headstone engraved, it reads "He lived much longer than
anyone expected"  Hahaha..

Nice light hearted Obit... Thanks I'm hoping not to read my own any
time soon. ;))

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Turpentine

I vaguely remember my grandparents talking about using it for some sort of 
medicinal purpose, maybe as disinfectant sort of thing. Topical not internal. 

People used to drink benzene to get a buzz too, so YMMV. 

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> 
> Just because it's been around a while doesn't mean it's not still wacko ...
> 
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:52 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> For health?
>> Has anyone ever heard of this?
>> It sounds as if this is not some new wacko thing but has been around
>> for a long time?  From the information online it looks like the
>> petroleum product is not used for health but the essential oil from
>> tree sap is.  This link is transcript of radio show and may be
>> interesting?
>> 
>> 
>> https://oneradionetwork.com/archive/turpentine-miracle-medicine-candida-cleaner-transcript/
>> 
>> Has anyone heard about this... ever?
>> Thanks.
>> tin
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Turpentine

Just because it's been around a while doesn't mean it's not still wacko ...

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For health?
> Has anyone ever heard of this?
> It sounds as if this is not some new wacko thing but has been around
> for a long time?  From the information online it looks like the
> petroleum product is not used for health but the essential oil from
> tree sap is.  This link is transcript of radio show and may be
> interesting?
>
>
> https://oneradionetwork.com/archive/turpentine-miracle-medicine-candida-cleaner-transcript/
>
> Has anyone heard about this... ever?
> Thanks.
> tin
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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

I guess that it all depends on the application of the popcorn - YMMV.
Spraying does sound like the easiest way to paint it, once you have the
sprayer, masking done, and know how to use it.

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 3:25 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I tried to roller it on with a fuzzy roller but more was coming off than
> was getting covered.
>
> I sprayed 2 coats of kilz2 on and have put on some white paint. Need to do
> another coat when this one dries. Looks pretty good. Or good enough I
> guess.
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>

-- 
OK Don

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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[MBZ] OT - Turpentine

2019-04-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

For health?
Has anyone ever heard of this?
It sounds as if this is not some new wacko thing but has been around
for a long time?  From the information online it looks like the
petroleum product is not used for health but the essential oil from
tree sap is.  This link is transcript of radio show and may be
interesting?

https://oneradionetwork.com/archive/turpentine-miracle-medicine-candida-cleaner-transcript/

Has anyone heard about this... ever?
Thanks.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

2019-04-08 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Another option is the "paint in handle" roller, like this:
https://www.amazon.com/PaintStick-C800953-M-Applicator-Painting-Interior/dp/B0102ZBGJG/
There are several brands these days.
They are a bit of a pain to clean and the rollers aren't cheap.  But if you can 
use a regular roller these make a small to medium job much faster.  
As the roller begins to get dry you just bump (or twist for some models) the 
handle to push more paint into the roller.  The longer handle makes it easy to 
reach almost any indoor surface without a ladder.  But you still need to "cut 
in" around trim.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Buggered
> Benzmail via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 4:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer
> 
> I tried to roller it on with a fuzzy roller but more was coming off than was
> getting covered.
> 
> I sprayed 2 coats of kilz2 on and have put on some white paint. Need to do
> another coat when this one dries. Looks pretty good. Or good enough I guess.
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 12:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > We used the thick napped rollers on the popcorn ceilings with no problems.
> > Sure, some of the popcorn came off, but not enough to be an issue. You
> > just have to wear eye protection ...
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:30 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I went with the sprayer because the ceiling has that popcorn sh*t on
> >> it and I didn't want to scrape it off like I have done in other rooms.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
> > many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
> > few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
> > electric fence for themselves."
> >
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Linebacker II - Where's Wilton

2019-04-08 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Yes

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Mitch Haley" 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Linebacker II - Where's Wilton

Thanks.
Can I quote you on that in the forum where this was being discussed?
Mitch.

On April 8, 2019 at 2:43 PM WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:

I  can wholeheartedly agree that SAC's LB II planning was totally stupid 
and

screwed up.  Many of us in the pre-mission briefing at U-Tapao, Thailand,
the first night (18 Dec 72) saw the problems on the screen immediately as
the curtains were retracted.  When we saw the same BS on the screen when 
the

curtains were retracted at start of the second night's briefing, we were
damned mad.  A couple of minutes after the briefer (a captain) started 
the

second night's briefing, I stood and asked, "Who's planning such stupid
tactics and why?"  Briefer replied, "Planning is done at SAC; same 
routes,
altitudes, spacing, etc., for 'ease of planning.'"  I replied, "Well, 
that

planning is making it easy for enemy to track us and shoot us down!"  BG
Glenn Sullivan, Air Division Commander, was seated 2 rows in front of me.
He turned and looked up at me, but said nothing, but I could tell that he
agreed with me.  It was his direct msg to CINCSAC coupla days later that 
got

the planners to "wise up" and change the tactics to save the campaign.

Wilton
5,000 hrs in B-52D, E, F, G, H, incl 6 missions during LB II

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[MBZ] OT Grant, someone wrote your obituary

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/moss-bluff-la/james-groth-6535739


-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT Needs a little work

Wow, someone doesn't get out very often.  Gutted rusty hulk, picture of engine, 
oh yeah that's worth $4500 Not.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On April 8, 2019 3:35:33 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Take a picture of a picture on a phone
>
>https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/361973851326474/

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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

I tried to roller it on with a fuzzy roller but more was coming off than was 
getting covered. 

I sprayed 2 coats of kilz2 on and have put on some white paint. Need to do 
another coat when this one dries. Looks pretty good. Or good enough I guess. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2019, at 12:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We used the thick napped rollers on the popcorn ceilings with no problems.
> Sure, some of the popcorn came off, but not enough to be an issue. You just
> have to wear eye protection ...
> 
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:30 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I went with the sprayer because the ceiling has that popcorn sh*t on it
>> and I didn't want to scrape it off like I have done in other rooms.
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] OT Needs a little work


Take a picture of a picture on a phone

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/361973851326474/

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Re: [MBZ] Not a lot of love here

It does not.

-D

> On Apr 8, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do you see any indication that it has AC?
> 
> 
>> On 08/04/2019 12:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Lots and lots of issues. Read through the comments and you’ll see why. 
>> That’s a very needy car.
>> 
>> Bum heater blower. Deal killer right there. Add all the other stuff that’s 
>> listed and it’s a $2500 car. The current price is a gift.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>  
>>> On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-mercedes-benz-250-4/
>>> 
>>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

 A coat of Kilz is probably a good idea. We did 2 coats of white over what was 
a fairly pale pink and it covered okay and lasted a good 10 years, if anything 
now it just looks like a really pale pink.Plan is for a like teal so I plan to 
sand and smooth, then prime and probably 2 coats of color.I can't remember what 
our local hardware store sells, a name brand paint anyway...
-Curt

On Monday, April 8, 2019, 2:36:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I have heard different advice on covering a vivid color.

One is to first do a coat that is a blend of the current color and the
final color you want.

The other is to do a coat of gray first and then the color you want.

Only time I've faced this is when I painted a room that had been a dark
green. I think I gave it one coat of Kilz and one coat of Antique White
and called it good.

The paint matters, by the way. The cheap house brand at the home
improvement center will not cover as well as a pro brand. If you know
any professional painters ask them what they use. It's probably PPG
Porter or Sherwin Williams. It costs substantially more but it's worth
it in time saved, coverage, and quality of finish.

Allan


Craig via Mercedes  writes:

> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 17:17:25 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>>  Neat, I need to repaint our bedroom at some point. It was pink when we
>> moved it. We painted it white 12 years ago but the pink is bleeding
>> through. It needs to be sanded and have some cracks fixed before
>> repainting... -Curt
>
> Our house in Los Osos, California, had a pink bedroom. I changed it to a
> light pure yellow. It took 2 coats of primer and 5 coats of finish.
>
> I had to do some repair later to some damage. I put on 1 coat of sanding
> sealer (oil based) and 1 coat of finish.
>
> Maybe Kilz would help you ...
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Linebacker II - Where's Wilton

2019-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Thanks.
Can I quote you on that in the forum where this was being discussed?
Mitch.

> On April 8, 2019 at 2:43 PM WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I  can wholeheartedly agree that SAC's LB II planning was totally stupid and 
> screwed up.  Many of us in the pre-mission briefing at U-Tapao, Thailand, 
> the first night (18 Dec 72) saw the problems on the screen immediately as 
> the curtains were retracted.  When we saw the same BS on the screen when the 
> curtains were retracted at start of the second night's briefing, we were 
> damned mad.  A couple of minutes after the briefer (a captain) started the 
> second night's briefing, I stood and asked, "Who's planning such stupid 
> tactics and why?"  Briefer replied, "Planning is done at SAC; same routes, 
> altitudes, spacing, etc., for 'ease of planning.'"  I replied, "Well, that 
> planning is making it easy for enemy to track us and shoot us down!"  BG 
> Glenn Sullivan, Air Division Commander, was seated 2 rows in front of me. 
> He turned and looked up at me, but said nothing, but I could tell that he 
> agreed with me.  It was his direct msg to CINCSAC coupla days later that got 
> the planners to "wise up" and change the tactics to save the campaign.
> 
> Wilton
> 5,000 hrs in B-52D, E, F, G, H, incl 6 missions during LB II
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Linebacker II - Where's Wilton

2019-04-08 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

I  can wholeheartedly agree that SAC's LB II planning was totally stupid and 
screwed up.  Many of us in the pre-mission briefing at U-Tapao, Thailand, 
the first night (18 Dec 72) saw the problems on the screen immediately as 
the curtains were retracted.  When we saw the same BS on the screen when the 
curtains were retracted at start of the second night's briefing, we were 
damned mad.  A couple of minutes after the briefer (a captain) started the 
second night's briefing, I stood and asked, "Who's planning such stupid 
tactics and why?"  Briefer replied, "Planning is done at SAC; same routes, 
altitudes, spacing, etc., for 'ease of planning.'"  I replied, "Well, that 
planning is making it easy for enemy to track us and shoot us down!"  BG 
Glenn Sullivan, Air Division Commander, was seated 2 rows in front of me. 
He turned and looked up at me, but said nothing, but I could tell that he 
agreed with me.  It was his direct msg to CINCSAC coupla days later that got 
the planners to "wise up" and change the tactics to save the campaign.


Wilton
5,000 hrs in B-52D, E, F, G, H, incl 6 missions during LB II

- Original Message - 
From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Mitch Haley" 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 10:17 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Linebacker II - Where's Wilton


A discussion of Gen LeMay morphed into a discussion of bombing tactics, 
which turned into a discussion of whether SAC planning of Linebacker 
missions was silly...


Can you add anything to the below, or refute any of it?

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Curtis-LeMay/5-2208854/?page=2#i78220777

Originally Posted By couchlord:
And yet when SAC got the go ahead in December 1972, Omaha FUBAR'd it bad. 
After about a dozen losses they finally let the local commanders take over 
and get it done.


Zoinks replied:
True enough at first. Mission Planning didn't rely on any sort of 
deception, and the North Vietnamese could guess at the routes from where 
the tankers were orbiting. But, that was also true of most of the air 
attacks in the North. On the other hand, there was also a belief that the 
little black boxes would be magical, and to an extent they were. But in 
the end, Mission Planning really under estimated that amount of missile 
shots that the North was capable of making. Then the North ran out of 
missiles. Literally. And there were still plenty of Buffs.


Bigger Hammer replied with link from Wikipedia:
The SAC H.Q. botched those missions BADLY due to Lazy - stupid planning. 
Each night the mission was IDENTICAL - each "cell" of three B-52s flew the 
EXACT same altitude, exact same speed, exact same route, exact same 
turning point, exact same exit path. To make matters worse, the mission 
template called for a severe turn out after bomb drop which turned the 
jammers antenna away from the ground at a time the B-52 was most 
vulnerable, (bomb doors wide open, steep turn, most radar visible with 
least amount of E.C.M. That is when the majority of losses occurred. The 
N.V.A. were no dummies. It was like shooting skeet. If you know exactly 
where the targets will be, speed, altitude, course, where they will turn 
out and reduce their defense capability, ... even B-52s become easy 
targets, especially for the SAMs that were designed & built specifically 
to shoot them down and having the Soviet Air Defense experts there to 
assist ...


The Crews basically mutinied and said, "change up the damn attack plan or 
find some other idiots to be your clay pigeons"... SAC figured out that 
unsustainable losses were a "Bad Thing" and changed up the attack plans 
(no stupid tight post target turnouts wrecking the E.C.M. coverage, varied 
courses, speeds, altitudes & routes, ect... The mixed in a B-52 D into 
each cell of three B-52 (usually with two "G" models as the "D" had more 
powerful E.C.M. Jamming better equipped for providing E.C.M. jamming in 
Vietnam against the SAM-2 threat so the "D" model E.C.M. coverage helped 
protect its newer, yet weaker, "G" model brothers.


Operation Linebacker II - B-52s over North Vietnam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Linebacker_II

Couchlord responded:

Indeed. It was even worse than that.

The turn out took them into the jet stream and an instant -100mph ground 
speed hit, increasing their SAM exposure time accordingly.
The turn out was not necessary, they were dropping iron bombs from 40K' 
not 10MT nukes.
The cells were split into 3 groups of attacks each night split by exactly 
3 hours. Each attack, as mentioned above, flew the exact same routes to 
the exact same targets. The 3 hour gap allowed the NVA to reload their SAM 
sites.
The same targets were attacked on consecutive nights with the exact same 
timing and routes, as mentioned above.

The SAM depots were not attacked.
The B-52's were ordered not to jink.
Splitting each nights attack into 3 waves separated by 3 hours diluted the 
Wild Weasel and CAP support.

The chaff corridor was poorly timed and

Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

Use ceiling paint for the whole room. It is thicker and hides previous 
colours better than normal paint.



On 08/04/2019 12:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  Neat, I need to repaint our bedroom at some point. It was pink when we moved 
it. We painted it white 12 years ago but the pink is bleeding through. It needs 
to be sanded and have some cracks fixed before repainting...
-Curt

 On Sunday, April 7, 2019, 3:12:47 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it seems

like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom in less
than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it that you
absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  I'll let that
dry a bit then hit it with white paint.

Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I
generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a
bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna
use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got a
respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan in a
window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around other
than where you point it.

These things are da bomb!




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Re: [MBZ] Not a lot of love here


Do you see any indication that it has AC?


On 08/04/2019 12:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Lots and lots of issues. Read through the comments and you’ll see why. That’s a 
very needy car.

Bum heater blower. Deal killer right there. Add all the other stuff that’s 
listed and it’s a $2500 car. The current price is a gift.

-D

  

On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-mercedes-benz-250-4/

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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

2019-04-08 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

I have heard different advice on covering a vivid color.

One is to first do a coat that is a blend of the current color and the
final color you want.

The other is to do a coat of gray first and then the color you want.

Only time I've faced this is when I painted a room that had been a dark
green. I think I gave it one coat of Kilz and one coat of Antique White
and called it good.

The paint matters, by the way. The cheap house brand at the home
improvement center will not cover as well as a pro brand. If you know
any professional painters ask them what they use. It's probably PPG
Porter or Sherwin Williams. It costs substantially more but it's worth
it in time saved, coverage, and quality of finish.

Allan

Craig via Mercedes  writes:

> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 17:17:25 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>>  Neat, I need to repaint our bedroom at some point. It was pink when we
>> moved it. We painted it white 12 years ago but the pink is bleeding
>> through. It needs to be sanded and have some cracks fixed before
>> repainting... -Curt
>
> Our house in Los Osos, California, had a pink bedroom. I changed it to a
> light pure yellow. It took 2 coats of primer and 5 coats of finish.
>
> I had to do some repair later to some damage. I put on 1 coat of sanding
> sealer (oil based) and 1 coat of finish.
>
> Maybe Kilz would help you ...
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 17:17:25 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  Neat, I need to repaint our bedroom at some point. It was pink when we
> moved it. We painted it white 12 years ago but the pink is bleeding
> through. It needs to be sanded and have some cracks fixed before
> repainting... -Curt

Our house in Los Osos, California, had a pink bedroom. I changed it to a
light pure yellow. It took 2 coats of primer and 5 coats of finish.

I had to do some repair later to some damage. I put on 1 coat of sanding
sealer (oil based) and 1 coat of finish.

Maybe Kilz would help you ...

Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Another video

https://youtu.be/qon6cKADLks
Three months in the making, finally, a British lantern on Lantern Lab.
I was thinking Fred might be interested in this, then thought the rest of you 
might too.
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Re: [MBZ] Good Day So Far

 The radiator in my '98 Jetta TDI was held, at least in part, with zip ties for 
the last 3 or 4 years. Part of the mount had rusted away so I ran in a couple 
heavy duty zip ties and it never moved. The bottom air dam on Angie's '05 Golf 
is also held with zip ties. That reminds me, I need to put new ones in, I saw 
some were broken...

-Curt

On Monday, April 8, 2019, 1:34:54 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Too funny.  Last summer the mechanic who fixes SWMBO's Fiat used zip ties
to put the plastic grill back in place.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In other news, Poos is helping poor women Trump haters and their
> RESIST-stickered Priuses with his vast experience with zip tie engineering.
>
>
> https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/Column-I-detest-Trump-but-a-redneck-fixed-my-Prius-with-zip-ties-_165095870
>
> "Just ask any redneck like me what you can do with zip ties — well, zip
> ties and duct tape. You can solve almost any car problem. You’ll get
> home safe," he said, turning to his teenage son standing nearby. "You
> can say that again," his son agreed.
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/8/19 12:41 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > Wow-genius and baggie ties. What a combo. Right up there with fiberglass
> > and frigginometry.
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 2005 E32o 4matic
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 12:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Already got some stuff done on the finnie:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html
> >> <
> >>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Good Day So Far

2019-04-08 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Too funny.  Last summer the mechanic who fixes SWMBO's Fiat used zip ties
to put the plastic grill back in place.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In other news, Poos is helping poor women Trump haters and their
> RESIST-stickered Priuses with his vast experience with zip tie engineering.
>
>
> https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/Column-I-detest-Trump-but-a-redneck-fixed-my-Prius-with-zip-ties-_165095870
>
> "Just ask any redneck like me what you can do with zip ties — well, zip
> ties and duct tape. You can solve almost any car problem. You’ll get
> home safe," he said, turning to his teenage son standing nearby. "You
> can say that again," his son agreed.
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/8/19 12:41 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > Wow-genius and baggie ties. What a combo. Right up there with fiberglass
> > and frigginometry.
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 2005 E32o 4matic
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 12:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Already got some stuff done on the finnie:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html
> >> <
> >>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Not a lot of love here

Lots and lots of issues. Read through the comments and you’ll see why. That’s a 
very needy car.

Bum heater blower. Deal killer right there. Add all the other stuff that’s 
listed and it’s a $2500 car. The current price is a gift.

-D

 
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> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-mercedes-benz-250-4/
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[MBZ] Not a lot of love here


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-mercedes-benz-250-4/

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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

 Neat, I need to repaint our bedroom at some point. It was pink when we moved 
it. We painted it white 12 years ago but the pink is bleeding through. It needs 
to be sanded and have some cracks fixed before repainting...
-Curt

On Sunday, April 7, 2019, 3:12:47 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it seems 
like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom in less 
than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it that you 
absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  I'll let that 
dry a bit then hit it with white paint.

Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I 
generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a 
bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna 
use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got a 
respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan in a 
window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around other 
than where you point it.

These things are da bomb!

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Re: [MBZ] Good Day So Far

In other news, Poos is helping poor women Trump haters and their
RESIST-stickered Priuses with his vast experience with zip tie engineering.

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/Column-I-detest-Trump-but-a-redneck-fixed-my-Prius-with-zip-ties-_165095870

"Just ask any redneck like me what you can do with zip ties — well, zip
ties and duct tape. You can solve almost any car problem. You’ll get
home safe," he said, turning to his teenage son standing nearby. "You
can say that again," his son agreed.

--FT

On 4/8/19 12:41 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Wow-genius and baggie ties. What a combo. Right up there with fiberglass
and frigginometry.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E32o 4matic
Wickford RI

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 12:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Already got some stuff done on the finnie:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html
<
http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html
-D
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Re: [MBZ] Good Day So Far


Shouldn't that show an April 1 date?


On 08/04/2019 11:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Already got some stuff done on the finnie:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html 


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Re: [MBZ] Good Day So Far

2019-04-08 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Wow-genius and baggie ties. What a combo. Right up there with fiberglass
and frigginometry.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E32o 4matic
Wickford RI


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> Already got some stuff done on the finnie:
>
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html
> <
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT EV airplanes in the near future

2019-04-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Craig wrote:
> Again, money and politics ...

That is the elixir du jour.
Okay, MrScienceEngineer - how do these things sort if this scene is flat?
Tin

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[MBZ] THE YOUNGTIMERS ARE COMING - NOW ENTIRELY WITHOUT RESERVE!



Our largest offering from the #YoungtimerCollection 
 
will cross the block at our first ever #RMEssen 
 
on 11-12 April – including these drool-worthy Mercedes-Benz models:


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- 1990 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEC AMG 6.0 ‘Wide-Body’

- 1975 Mercedes-Benz 450 SEL AMG 6.9

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- 1988 Mercedes-Benz 560 SL

- 1989 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL

- 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500 SEC AMG 5.4 ‘Wide-Body’

-1997 Mercedes-Benz SL 600 AMG

- 1996 Mercedes-Benz S 600 AMG

See all 23 Mercedes-Benzes from the Youngtimer Collection coming to 
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[MBZ] Good Day So Far

Already got some stuff done on the finnie:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/4/8_Proper_Compensation.html 


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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

We used the thick napped rollers on the popcorn ceilings with no problems.
Sure, some of the popcorn came off, but not enough to be an issue. You just
have to wear eye protection ...

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:30 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I went with the sprayer because the ceiling has that popcorn sh*t on it
> and I didn't want to scrape it off like I have done in other rooms.
>
>

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

yep,  Coupon brings it to $180 or maybe lower, I forget what I paid for 
it, might have been less.


--FT

On 4/8/19 11:44 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Like this?

https://www.harborfreight.com/airless-paint-sprayer-kit-62915.html


On 07/04/2019 2:11 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
For doing some repaints on the house. Harbor Freight special, it 
seems like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom 
in less than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it 
that you absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  
I'll let that dry a bit then hit it with white paint.


Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I 
generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a 
bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm 
gonna use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got 
a respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan 
in a window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around 
other than where you point it.


These things are da bomb!




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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer


Like this?

https://www.harborfreight.com/airless-paint-sprayer-kit-62915.html


On 07/04/2019 2:11 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
For doing some repaints on the house.  Harbor Freight special, it 
seems like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom 
in less than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it 
that you absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  
I'll let that dry a bit then hit it with white paint.


Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I 
generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a 
bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm gonna 
use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got a 
respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan in 
a window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around 
other than where you point it.


These things are da bomb!




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Re: [MBZ] OT EV airplanes in the near future

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> But then we discovered that R134a was a greenhouse gas, not to mention
> a cheap commodity item like R12 used to be, so now we need R1234yf,
> which fortunately can be purchased for less than $100/lb now that it's
> in wide distribution. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BBXYFN9

Not only that, the condenser (and maybe the evaporator) has such fine
holes that if you need to replace the compressor, you also need to
replace the condenser (and maybe the evaporator) because it's impossible
to clean it out.

Again, money and politics ...

Craig

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 15:49:22 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Luckily someone discovered that R-12 freon was the culprit, and DuPont
> just happened to have a factory ready to make r-134a, so the government
> banned r-12 and saved us from freezing.

Get my boots so I can wade through the sarcasm!

Actually it was the "ozone hole" over the antarctic. Interesting, that
ozone, produced by ultraviolet light from the sun, decreased when it was
dark during the winter ...

You don't hear anything about the "ozone hole" nowadays; it was really
important wasn't it?

> Since global heating is now the problem, it would seem that if we all
> started using R-12 again, the resultant global cooling would solve the
> problem and we wouldn't have to worry about CO2. Gerry

All of this involves money and politics, but nothing related to cooling
and warming.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] What’s it take to do a t-case? $1800 05 E500 wagon looks nice

It's posted now at $1600.  Probably getting desperate.  It looks like a 
really nice car just from the few pics.  I wonder if an ML drive train 
bits would swap in there, the t-case/tranny etc. Those are probably more 
plentiful in the knacker yards.  That post is really good.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2073027282814646/

I'm wondering if a $1000 offer would be an insult...

--FT

On 4/6/19 10:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

https://mbworld.org/forums/gl-class-x164/697366-how-rebuild-mercedes-itc-transfer-case-part-1-3-a.html

Found this, part 1 of a 3 part video hope it helps.


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On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:44 PM G Mann  wrote:


I've done a number of T-Case rebuilds on 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks, this
can't be much different. Should be a drop both front and rear driveshafts
[mark them for indexing], support rear of transmission, unbolt rear
transmission cross member, lower trans /t case, unbolt t case, carry to
bench and open it up, fix what's wrong with it, install everything back
like it should be. Done & Dusted.

Mercedes may have some electronic nannies to engage / dis-engage front
wheels. Should be a book on that somewhere. Part$ is Part, you are
on your own on those.



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On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 5:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/moncks-corner-2005/6858982381.html

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[MBZ] Klebomania

This is Kaleb’s future:

https://www.facebook.com/The-Knows-Picker-presents-the-Florida-Benz-Hoard-397003674447412/
 


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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

In other words, don’t even think of hesitating or you’ll unload a quart of 
paint in a very small space. The key is to keep moving, and fast.

-D



> On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> It does move a lot of paint fast though, which is good but you gotta watch it.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/8/19 10:16 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> My only issue with the rental units is what you said -- you need to get
>> used to the volume of paint. This is not anything like spraying from a
>> rattle can. First time I tried one I had paint running down the wall in
>> rivers.
>> 
>> They are great for any kind of textured ceilings.
>> 
>> For me rollers are easier for walls. I don't have to worry about masking
>> off the whole room for overspray. If I were doing a whole room in new
>> construction with no furniture or trim or floor covering installed yet,
>> I would use a sprayer.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I’ve used one of these. They can’t be beat for painting large areas,
>>> like walls and ceilings. Once you get a hang for the volume of paint
>>> they put down, you can knock out a single wall in a minute or less if
>>> everything is masked.
>>> 
>>> When we built our house in Wisconsin I painted the interior with a
>>> bulk sprayer. 3,000 SF two story home, did the whole place in a couple
>>> of hours. Granted, it was just drywall with no trim or fixtures in
>>> place, but that gives you an idea of how quickly one can paint large
>>> areas with these in short order. Doing exteriors is even better.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

I went with the sprayer because the ceiling has that popcorn sh*t on it 
and I didn't want to scrape it off like I have done in other rooms.  So 
I had to mask off anyway, and I usually do tape on all the moldings and 
baseboards, so adding a bit of paper to the tape was not that big a 
deal.  I would have preferred the roller/brush mode but in this case 
spraying was about the only way to go.


It does move a lot of paint fast though, which is good but you gotta 
watch it.


--FT

On 4/8/19 10:16 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

My only issue with the rental units is what you said -- you need to get
used to the volume of paint. This is not anything like spraying from a
rattle can. First time I tried one I had paint running down the wall in
rivers.

They are great for any kind of textured ceilings.

For me rollers are easier for walls. I don't have to worry about masking
off the whole room for overspray. If I were doing a whole room in new
construction with no furniture or trim or floor covering installed yet,
I would use a sprayer.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:


I’ve used one of these. They can’t be beat for painting large areas,
like walls and ceilings. Once you get a hang for the volume of paint
they put down, you can knock out a single wall in a minute or less if
everything is masked.

When we built our house in Wisconsin I painted the interior with a
bulk sprayer. 3,000 SF two story home, did the whole place in a couple
of hours. Granted, it was just drywall with no trim or fixtures in
place, but that gives you an idea of how quickly one can paint large
areas with these in short order. Doing exteriors is even better.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

2019-04-08 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

My only issue with the rental units is what you said -- you need to get
used to the volume of paint. This is not anything like spraying from a
rattle can. First time I tried one I had paint running down the wall in
rivers.

They are great for any kind of textured ceilings.

For me rollers are easier for walls. I don't have to worry about masking
off the whole room for overspray. If I were doing a whole room in new
construction with no furniture or trim or floor covering installed yet,
I would use a sprayer.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> I’ve used one of these. They can’t be beat for painting large areas,
> like walls and ceilings. Once you get a hang for the volume of paint
> they put down, you can knock out a single wall in a minute or less if
> everything is masked.
>
> When we built our house in Wisconsin I painted the interior with a
> bulk sprayer. 3,000 SF two story home, did the whole place in a couple
> of hours. Granted, it was just drywall with no trim or fixtures in
> place, but that gives you an idea of how quickly one can paint large
> areas with these in short order. Doing exteriors is even better.
>
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] 1970 Mercedes Benz 280SE W108 - $1700 (Mt. Pleasant), again

2019-04-08 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

I think I have seen that car, it was sitting outside a garage with a
for-sale sign about ten or fifteen years ago.  Complete rust bucket, really
far gone.  Seller wanted crazy money back then.  Insanity - doing the same
thing over and over and expecting a different result.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:27 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $300 car listed at $1700
>
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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-1970-mercedes-benz-280se-w108/6845637607.html
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Re: [MBZ] WOT I bought an airless paint sprayer

Yes, it does take awhile to get primed and then cleaned up after.  Much 
better for big jobs given the sunk time involved, but it works very well 
on this job too.


I am actually kinda impressed too that a cheap HF unit seems to work 
pretty well.  It needs a higher stand to be able to use the 5gal buckets 
directly, maybe I will make one for it. I need to order some more 
nozzles for it, for some reason they didn't have them in the store.  I 
asked a woman there, who I think was the manager, and she said she would 
try to order some to stock as various people had asked about them.


--FT

On 4/7/19 10:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
for a room, it takes longer to set up and clean than to spray.  I 
sprayed a house and garage in one day the first time I used one.    Be 
sure to purge the thing with mineral oil so the oil is in the valves.  
Otherwise they rust and set you back $60 or more.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 4/7/19 2:11 PM:
For doing some repaints on the house. Harbor Freight special, it 
seems like a decent unit, got good reviews.  I just primed a bedroom 
in less than 30min, walls and ceiling (which has that popcorn on it 
that you absolutely cannot roll paint on).  It looks really good.  
I'll let that dry a bit then hit it with white paint.


Took awhile to mask off the doors, windows, and baseboards but I 
generally do blue tape around the perimeter anyway.  It's a bit of a 
bother to get it going and to clean it up, but not too bad.  I'm 
gonna use it next to spray stain on the outside of the house.  I got 
a respirator to keep unwanted paint spray out of my lungs, put a fan 
in a window to blow air out, but it doesn't seem to leave much around 
other than where you point it.


These things are da bomb!




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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

reminds me of this 300CD I bought from an estate sale.  The woman 
running the sale (there is something about these women who do estate 
sales...) had this idea it was worth $5500 or some such.  I tried to 
talk to her and she was high on crack or something, whatever estate 
saleswomen of a certain age medicate themselves with. She was much 
better with selling the old lady's t  Of course it never sold at the 
sale so she gave me the info of the guy who hired her to do the sale, 
and we struck a reasonable bargain.


--FT

On 4/7/19 10:30 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
but you had to be there yesterday for a test drive or you dont get to 
bid.  Look for it on CL for a crack price.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 4/7/19 8:15 PM:
Asking price $2450, to be followed by one round of 'last best offer' 
if more than one buyer offers the full ask.


Mitch.





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