Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Haven't heard 'bout "free" charging, but haven't seen 'im for 3  or 4 
months.


BTW, it was annoying when he took me for a ride when he got it several 
months ago and could not resist demonstrating its acceleration.


W

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On May 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM WILTON via Mercedes  
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BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3.


Did he get in on the deal where he gets free Supercharging like the Model 
S and Model X, or does he have to pay for his electricity?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Great to hear from you, Wilton! [Was: Re: OT: drove a Tesla]

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Still getting IVIG every 2 weeks.  Condition continues to deteriorate very 
subtly/gradually.


Not much rain recently.

W

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On Wed, 1 May 2019 14:46:32 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
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BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3.

Wilt


Wilton,

I know you are lurking on the list, but it's great to hear from you!

How are you doing these days?

Have things dried out from all the rain there?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

i'd bet it needs an evapectomy...

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/1/19 7:16 PM:

I wonder if the paint is single stage or two.  That would be awesome if it
has single stage paint.  My '95 E300 is (I think) the same blue and it is
quite handsome.

The AC can't be that hard to work out, probably a weekend or two of
concentrated effort.  Put in a better condenser and an expansion valve
meant for r134a and it will probably freeze you right out.
-
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Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I read somewhere that a minor accident can cause a 6 month repair - parts
are unobtanium ...

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>
> > On May 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM WILTON via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3.
>
> Did he get in on the deal where he gets free Supercharging like the Model
> S and Model X, or does he have to pay for his electricity?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Ok looked up renu. No dealers near me! 

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> On May 1, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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> What’s gas tank renu process?
> 
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>> 
>> It’s not cheap, but the gas tank renu process really is good.  My ponton
>> tank was done by them.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:42 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is
>>> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

What’s gas tank renu process?

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> On May 1, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s not cheap, but the gas tank renu process really is good.  My ponton
> tank was done by them.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:42 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is
>> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

It’s not cheap, but the gas tank renu process really is good.  My ponton
tank was done by them.

Jaime


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> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is
> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

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 It was in fact a radiator shop I took mine to now that I think of it.

-Curt

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 8:13:27 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I didn’t know that radiator shops do this! Something to consider. This is for 
my 1958 300d which I really want to get to the Q sometime!

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> On May 1, 2019, at 7:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe this is a service that many radiator shops offer, isn’t it? 
> Something I think I would rather pay someone else to do so there’s a neck to 
> wring if it goes south….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 1, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I paid a guy to do the tank on my Farmall, I think it was like $60, they 
>> steam cleaned the tank and sealed it, took a couple days. Has made owning a 
>> 60+ year old tractor MUCH easier.I didn't want to do that one myself because 
>> the tank was so heavy even empty.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 7:10:09 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>> wrote:  
>> 
>> Yes my biggest concern is that the coating fails leading to a mess. This is 
>> for a gas fuel tank. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2019, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've de-rusted many a lantern, the process would be roughly the same. Use 
>>> an acid to remove the rust, something like a chain inside that you can 
>>> slosh around will help knock off the big rust. Coat it later on. The POR-15 
>>> chemicals are not optional, use the whole bottle and use their instructions 
>>> exactly. I have a snowmobile with a failed coating because I didn't get the 
>>> tank clean enough...
>>> Uncoated would be fine if you always kept the tank full of fuel. Actually 
>>> I'd guess on a diesel its probably not as critical since the inside of the 
>>> tank would stay oily for some time after the level dropped.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>    On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 5:42:51 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>>>Mercedes  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is 
>>> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I wonder if the paint is single stage or two.  That would be awesome if it
has single stage paint.  My '95 E300 is (I think) the same blue and it is
quite handsome.

The AC can't be that hard to work out, probably a weekend or two of
concentrated effort.  Put in a better condenser and an expansion valve
meant for r134a and it will probably freeze you right out.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was thinking much the same. The seller has been trying to move it on
> some of the MB forums without success, meaning they’re probably willing to
> haggle at this point…
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I didn’t know that radiator shops do this! Something to consider. This is for 
my 1958 300d which I really want to get to the Q sometime!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2019, at 7:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe this is a service that many radiator shops offer, isn’t it? 
> Something I think I would rather pay someone else to do so there’s a neck to 
> wring if it goes south….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 1, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I paid a guy to do the tank on my Farmall, I think it was like $60, they 
>> steam cleaned the tank and sealed it, took a couple days. Has made owning a 
>> 60+ year old tractor MUCH easier.I didn't want to do that one myself because 
>> the tank was so heavy even empty.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 7:10:09 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Yes my biggest concern is that the coating fails leading to a mess. This is 
>> for a gas fuel tank. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2019, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've de-rusted many a lantern, the process would be roughly the same. Use 
>>> an acid to remove the rust, something like a chain inside that you can 
>>> slosh around will help knock off the big rust. Coat it later on. The POR-15 
>>> chemicals are not optional, use the whole bottle and use their instructions 
>>> exactly. I have a snowmobile with a failed coating because I didn't get the 
>>> tank clean enough...
>>> Uncoated would be fine if you always kept the tank full of fuel. Actually 
>>> I'd guess on a diesel its probably not as critical since the inside of the 
>>> tank would stay oily for some time after the level dropped.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 5:42:51 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is 
>>> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I believe this is a service that many radiator shops offer, isn’t it? Something 
I think I would rather pay someone else to do so there’s a neck to wring if it 
goes south….

-D


> On May 1, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I paid a guy to do the tank on my Farmall, I think it was like $60, they 
> steam cleaned the tank and sealed it, took a couple days. Has made owning a 
> 60+ year old tractor MUCH easier.I didn't want to do that one myself because 
> the tank was so heavy even empty.
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 7:10:09 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Yes my biggest concern is that the coating fails leading to a mess. This is 
> for a gas fuel tank. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 1, 2019, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've de-rusted many a lantern, the process would be roughly the same. Use an 
>> acid to remove the rust, something like a chain inside that you can slosh 
>> around will help knock off the big rust. Coat it later on. The POR-15 
>> chemicals are not optional, use the whole bottle and use their instructions 
>> exactly. I have a snowmobile with a failed coating because I didn't get the 
>> tank clean enough...
>> Uncoated would be fine if you always kept the tank full of fuel. Actually 
>> I'd guess on a diesel its probably not as critical since the inside of the 
>> tank would stay oily for some time after the level dropped.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 5:42:51 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> 
>> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is 
>> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I paid a guy to do the tank on my Farmall, I think it was like $60, they steam 
cleaned the tank and sealed it, took a couple days. Has made owning a 60+ year 
old tractor MUCH easier.I didn't want to do that one myself because the tank 
was so heavy even empty.

-Curt

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 7:10:09 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
 wrote:  
 
 Yes my biggest concern is that the coating fails leading to a mess. This is 
for a gas fuel tank. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2019, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've de-rusted many a lantern, the process would be roughly the same. Use an 
> acid to remove the rust, something like a chain inside that you can slosh 
> around will help knock off the big rust. Coat it later on. The POR-15 
> chemicals are not optional, use the whole bottle and use their instructions 
> exactly. I have a snowmobile with a failed coating because I didn't get the 
> tank clean enough...
> Uncoated would be fine if you always kept the tank full of fuel. Actually I'd 
> guess on a diesel its probably not as critical since the inside of the tank 
> would stay oily for some time after the level dropped.
> 
> -Curt
> 
>    On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 5:42:51 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is 
> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was thinking much the same. The seller has been trying to move it on some of 
the MB forums without success, meaning they’re probably willing to haggle at 
this point…

-D


> On May 1, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Price is a little steep for broken AC, but worth looking at and bargaining
> a bit.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:30 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1987-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/6878001445.html
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Price is a little steep for broken AC, but worth looking at and bargaining
a bit.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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>
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1987-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/6878001445.html
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes my biggest concern is that the coating fails leading to a mess. This is for 
a gas fuel tank. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2019, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've de-rusted many a lantern, the process would be roughly the same. Use an 
> acid to remove the rust, something like a chain inside that you can slosh 
> around will help knock off the big rust. Coat it later on. The POR-15 
> chemicals are not optional, use the whole bottle and use their instructions 
> exactly. I have a snowmobile with a failed coating because I didn't get the 
> tank clean enough...
> Uncoated would be fine if you always kept the tank full of fuel. Actually I'd 
> guess on a diesel its probably not as critical since the inside of the tank 
> would stay oily for some time after the level dropped.
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 5:42:51 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is 
> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

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> The interwebz of thingz!
> 
> The world and the appliances are all getting linked up.  Your ice box talks 
> to the dishwasher, which chats up the wash machine and dryer.  The door locks 
> speak to the lighting, Alexa talks trash about Siri and Cortana.  The TV 
> knows what you are streaming on Netflix and what porn site Windows 10 likes 
> most, so it shares that with your in car infotainment system, and calls the 
> green grocer to restock bananas, chocolate sauce, and whipped cream.  Then 
> your car will drive you to your next appointment, which you Samsung phone has 
> in the calendar.
> 
> clay monroe


Funny! Made my day.
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've de-rusted many a lantern, the process would be roughly the same. Use an 
acid to remove the rust, something like a chain inside that you can slosh 
around will help knock off the big rust. Coat it later on. The POR-15 chemicals 
are not optional, use the whole bottle and use their instructions exactly. I 
have a snowmobile with a failed coating because I didn't get the tank clean 
enough...
Uncoated would be fine if you always kept the tank full of fuel. Actually I'd 
guess on a diesel its probably not as critical since the inside of the tank 
would stay oily for some time after the level dropped.

-Curt

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 5:42:51 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is 
coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.

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Re: [MBZ] Copart SL500

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I saw something like that outside of Dallas some years ago. They had built a 
whole town and then the market went bust. There were developments all over the 
place but no body living there. Very light traffic and importantly to me no 
restaurants.Strangely the only hotel was an extended stay. I don't remember 
which chain but it was a pretty nice hotel.
-Curt

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 5:15:30 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Sounds much the same as I recall.

What I found weird was that you could head out to the “suburbs” and would be 
surrounded by all this developed property that had empty buildings on it. I  
distinctly recall seeing national chains like Wendy’s all boarded up, yet the 
buildings and property looked like it was brand new. It was almost creepy.

And then as quickly as suburbia ended you would see the classic AK shack on a 
piece of property with the weathered cedar and the elk or moose rack fastened 
to the gable above the front door and the beater pickup truck parked in front.

The contrasts were surreal.

-D


> On May 1, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The same boom/bust cycle is going on today.
> 
> While dragging her dog around the neighborhood (walking the dog) I pick up a 
> flyer on a house for sale.  No pricing, just the normal realtor gibberish.  
> SWMBA gets home and all excited that we should troll the interwebz to learn 
> more about the six homes featured on the slip.  The bulk of them have been on 
> the market for about a year and dropped prices by 10-15%.  The homes all 
> needed “attention”.  The newer (80’s/90s) home sport original features (not 
> renovated), the older homes have good bones but were last upgraded about 30 
> years ago when somebody was flush with cash, or had spruced it up before 
> selling around the time of the Exxon Valdez spill.
> 
> There is no crush or demand for commercial space.  Lots of for lease signage 
> all over town.  Lots of empty store fronts in the CBD.  Very minimal new 
> construction going on, but for the few extended stay chains.  There is even 
> an arsonist who likes to target defunct sushi shops and other empty spaces.  
> What commercial space there is looks very long in the tooth.  Aged strip 
> malls with long time, low rent tenancy, or big box stores that have been 
> there for a long time and are begging for updating.
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 1, 2019, at 4:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Going to the GABC is a right of passage for the first visit to ANC. It 
>> harkens back to the days of the pipeline and the gold rush mentality of 
>> those times.
>> 
>> I can recall being up there in the 80s after the pipeline was completed, and 
>> how badly the economy crashed. You would drive out into the ‘burbs of ANC 
>> and see block after block of empty office buildings, shuttered businesses, 
>> etc.  It was almost post apocalyptic looking.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 There were those Jeeps where the bluetooth connectivity went farther than just 
the radio.
-Curt

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 5:10:10 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
Does anybody know which cars even have the capability (from the factory, not 
add-ons by "buy here, pay here" dealers) of being forcibly shut down?

I believe everything with Onstar can do it, but are there any others?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 1, 2019 at 5:42 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is 
> coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.

I've heard of guys dumping a gallon of peastone in a motorcycle tank and 
shaking it vigorously. But I can't shake a Mercedes tank with 5 gallons of 
gravel in it. Mount it in a big rotisserie and tumble it like a rock polisher?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

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> > Floyd wrote:
> > It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with the
> > flip of a switch, every automobile in the United States could
> > suddenly and without warning be "turned off," all their engines
> > stopped, their radios disabled, all by a malevolent saboteur.
> > 
> > https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html

> fmiser wrote:
> Lots of scary phrases - but _no_ real information or data.  Where
> is the vulnerability of 5G different than 4G - or even 3G?  How
> could an exploit of 5G shut down the electric grid?
> 
> I'm not saying that depending on the promise of a Chinese
> manufacturer is a safe bet - but I question the extent of the
> consequence.  Especially without any data.
> 
See this about that:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-thinker/

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[MBZ] Fuel tank de-rusting

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Does anyone have any experience de-rusting the inside of a fuel tank? Is 
coating it advisable? POR-15 has a kit which is pricey I think.

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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The vulnerability may be overstated, but the future catches up with us in time. 
 There was a big snit about all the pollution cars were spewing some 30 years 
ago.  State of Washington got all CARB on that and set up a bunch of testing 
stations in urban areas and used it as a revenue stream.  Cart 30 years or 
older were exempted from testing.

Now, 30 years on, the whole circus is packing up tents and rolling on.  There 
are so many “clean” cars (prius) in the state, that there is no longer any 
pollution to worry about.  All the plug in and smart cars have saved the world! 
 I will remain in old cars that do not require computers or can be affected by 
disable switches in cop’s cars.  Maybe I can set up a Microwave EMP gun in my 
old hoopties and use it to defend against violations of my Fourth Amendment.

clay 


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> On May 1, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It hyperbole, theres no way that "All of the cars in the United States could 
> suddenly and without warning be 'turned off'". So right off the bat the 
> writer is clearly an idiot.
> You couldn't even turn off all the cars in one state. The writer doesn't seem 
> to recognize:A. How big the USA isorB. That there are cars more than 10 years 
> old or that don't have any interaction with the outside world.My Jetta, even 
> though its a 2015, has no interaction outside of itself. To "turn it off" 
> requires physical proximity.
> So I agree with Jamie, that article sucks, its only goal in life is to scare 
> people and thus has no place on this list, not because its forbidden content 
> but its too low quality to meet the standards here...
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 4:27:53 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
 Floyd wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed.

Because of the threat of extended lack of services in the event of a CAT4 or 5 
hurricane barreling through, I have several tanks of propane, a gas stove that 
works without power, and a generator that will provide a reasonable amount of 
power for refrigeration and a small single room AC unit. I also have many 
rounds of ammo and the hardware to send it downrange in short order for 
whatever need - food or defense.

I am not a prepper or doomsday scenario person. I’m am a realist. If the SHTF I 
want to be prepared. And we have seen mild versions of the scenario in the 
past, so we have direct experience with seeing how others less prepared react. 
Poorly, at best.

-D


> On May 1, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Having lived in places that went from functional to medieval overnight, I 
> like to keep my life pretty simple.  Living in the great white north is not 
> conducive to surviving SHTF.  I want my diesel car so I can drive after the 
> EMP strikes.  Unless you live out in the bush, the homes here are all dolled 
> up with whiz-bang technology.  I am not interested in keeping warm by using 
> the outdoor firepit and the one bundle of supermarket wood.  SWMBA does have 
> a propane grill.  But only want one gas tank, and that almost empty.  There 
> is a second empty one on premises.  She will not fill it.  
> 
> My home, with two diesel cars, has a real wood fireplace, a fire pit, four 
> back up tanks of propane, and a plethora of tools, ammo, and ways to get lead 
> down field.  There are also more city folk whose pantries will be a good 
> source of supplemental nutrition.
> 
> clay 
> 
>> On May 1, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with the flip of a 
>> switch, every automobile in the United States could suddenly and without 
>> warning be "turned off," all their engines stopped, their radios disabled, 
>> all by a malevolent saboteur.
>> 
>> https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The interwebz of thingz!

The world and the appliances are all getting linked up.  Your ice box talks to 
the dishwasher, which chats up the wash machine and dryer.  The door locks 
speak to the lighting, Alexa talks trash about Siri and Cortana.  The TV knows 
what you are streaming on Netflix and what porn site Windows 10 likes most, so 
it shares that with your in car infotainment system, and calls the green grocer 
to restock bananas, chocolate sauce, and whipped cream.  Then your car will 
drive you to your next appointment, which you Samsung phone has in the calendar.

clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On May 1, 2019, at 10:45 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Floyd wrote:
> 
>> It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with the
>> flip of a switch, every automobile in the United States could
>> suddenly and without warning be "turned off," all their engines
>> stopped, their radios disabled, all by a malevolent saboteur.
>> 
>> https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html
> 
> Lots of scary phrases - but _no_ real information or data.  Where
> is the vulnerability of 5G different than 4G - or even 3G?  How
> could an exploit of 5G shut down the electric grid?
> 
> I'm not saying that depending on the promise of a Chinese
> manufacturer is a safe bet - but I question the extent of the
> consequence.  Especially without any data.
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[MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1987-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/6878001445.html

-D



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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Having lived in places that went from functional to medieval overnight, I like 
to keep my life pretty simple.  Living in the great white north is not 
conducive to surviving SHTF.  I want my diesel car so I can drive after the EMP 
strikes.  Unless you live out in the bush, the homes here are all dolled up 
with whiz-bang technology.  I am not interested in keeping warm by using the 
outdoor firepit and the one bundle of supermarket wood.  SWMBA does have a 
propane grill.  But only want one gas tank, and that almost empty.  There is a 
second empty one on premises.  She will not fill it.  

My home, with two diesel cars, has a real wood fireplace, a fire pit, four back 
up tanks of propane, and a plethora of tools, ammo, and ways to get lead down 
field.  There are also more city folk whose pantries will be a good source of 
supplemental nutrition.

clay 

> On May 1, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with the flip of a 
> switch, every automobile in the United States could suddenly and without 
> warning be "turned off," all their engines stopped, their radios disabled, 
> all by a malevolent saboteur.
> 
> https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] Copart SL500

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sounds much the same as I recall.

What I found weird was that you could head out to the “suburbs” and would be 
surrounded by all this developed property that had empty buildings on it. I  
distinctly recall seeing national chains like Wendy’s all boarded up, yet the 
buildings and property looked like it was brand new. It was almost creepy.

And then as quickly as suburbia ended you would see the classic AK shack on a 
piece of property with the weathered cedar and the elk or moose rack fastened 
to the gable above the front door and the beater pickup truck parked in front.

The contrasts were surreal.

-D


> On May 1, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The same boom/bust cycle is going on today.
> 
> While dragging her dog around the neighborhood (walking the dog) I pick up a 
> flyer on a house for sale.  No pricing, just the normal realtor gibberish.  
> SWMBA gets home and all excited that we should troll the interwebz to learn 
> more about the six homes featured on the slip.  The bulk of them have been on 
> the market for about a year and dropped prices by 10-15%.  The homes all 
> needed “attention”.  The newer (80’s/90s) home sport original features (not 
> renovated), the older homes have good bones but were last upgraded about 30 
> years ago when somebody was flush with cash, or had spruced it up before 
> selling around the time of the Exxon Valdez spill.
> 
> There is no crush or demand for commercial space.  Lots of for lease signage 
> all over town.  Lots of empty store fronts in the CBD.  Very minimal new 
> construction going on, but for the few extended stay chains.  There is even 
> an arsonist who likes to target defunct sushi shops and other empty spaces.  
> What commercial space there is looks very long in the tooth.  Aged strip 
> malls with long time, low rent tenancy, or big box stores that have been 
> there for a long time and are begging for updating.
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 1, 2019, at 4:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Going to the GABC is a right of passage for the first visit to ANC. It 
>> harkens back to the days of the pipeline and the gold rush mentality of 
>> those times.
>> 
>> I can recall being up there in the 80s after the pipeline was completed, and 
>> how badly the economy crashed. You would drive out into the ‘burbs of ANC 
>> and see block after block of empty office buildings, shuttered businesses, 
>> etc.  It was almost post apocalyptic looking.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Copart SL500

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

As long as we are talking about off topic and not relevant emails I think
this one should be flagged too.
YMMV
Dwight
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:08 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The same boom/bust cycle is going on today.
>
> While dragging her dog around the neighborhood (walking the dog) I pick up
> a flyer on a house for sale.  No pricing, just the normal realtor
> gibberish.  SWMBA gets home and all excited that we should troll the
> interwebz to learn more about the six homes featured on the slip.  The bulk
> of them have been on the market for about a year and dropped prices by
> 10-15%.  The homes all needed “attention”.  The newer (80’s/90s) home sport
> original features (not renovated), the older homes have good bones but were
> last upgraded about 30 years ago when somebody was flush with cash, or had
> spruced it up before selling around the time of the Exxon Valdez spill.
>
> There is no crush or demand for commercial space.  Lots of for lease
> signage all over town.  Lots of empty store fronts in the CBD.  Very
> minimal new construction going on, but for the few extended stay chains.
> There is even an arsonist who likes to target defunct sushi shops and other
> empty spaces.  What commercial space there is looks very long in the
> tooth.  Aged strip malls with long time, low rent tenancy, or big box
> stores that have been there for a long time and are begging for updating.
>
>
> clay monroe
>
>
>
> > On May 1, 2019, at 4:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Going to the GABC is a right of passage for the first visit to ANC. It
> harkens back to the days of the pipeline and the gold rush mentality of
> those times.
> >
> > I can recall being up there in the 80s after the pipeline was completed,
> and how badly the economy crashed. You would drive out into the ‘burbs of
> ANC and see block after block of empty office buildings, shuttered
> businesses, etc.  It was almost post apocalyptic looking.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Does anybody know which cars even have the capability (from the factory, not 
add-ons by "buy here, pay here" dealers) of being forcibly shut down?

I believe everything with Onstar can do it, but are there any others?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Copart SL500

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The same boom/bust cycle is going on today.

While dragging her dog around the neighborhood (walking the dog) I pick up a 
flyer on a house for sale.  No pricing, just the normal realtor gibberish.  
SWMBA gets home and all excited that we should troll the interwebz to learn 
more about the six homes featured on the slip.  The bulk of them have been on 
the market for about a year and dropped prices by 10-15%.  The homes all needed 
“attention”.  The newer (80’s/90s) home sport original features (not 
renovated), the older homes have good bones but were last upgraded about 30 
years ago when somebody was flush with cash, or had spruced it up before 
selling around the time of the Exxon Valdez spill.

There is no crush or demand for commercial space.  Lots of for lease signage 
all over town.  Lots of empty store fronts in the CBD.  Very minimal new 
construction going on, but for the few extended stay chains.  There is even an 
arsonist who likes to target defunct sushi shops and other empty spaces.  What 
commercial space there is looks very long in the tooth.  Aged strip malls with 
long time, low rent tenancy, or big box stores that have been there for a long 
time and are begging for updating.


clay monroe



> On May 1, 2019, at 4:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Going to the GABC is a right of passage for the first visit to ANC. It 
> harkens back to the days of the pipeline and the gold rush mentality of those 
> times.
> 
> I can recall being up there in the 80s after the pipeline was completed, and 
> how badly the economy crashed. You would drive out into the ‘burbs of ANC and 
> see block after block of empty office buildings, shuttered businesses, etc.  
> It was almost post apocalyptic looking.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well said Curt. I agree.

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:51 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  It hyperbole, theres no way that "All of the cars in the United States
> could suddenly and without warning be 'turned off'". So right off the bat
> the writer is clearly an idiot.
> You couldn't even turn off all the cars in one state. The writer doesn't
> seem to recognize:A. How big the USA isorB. That there are cars more than
> 10 years old or that don't have any interaction with the outside world.My
> Jetta, even though its a 2015, has no interaction outside of itself. To
> "turn it off" requires physical proximity.
> So I agree with Jamie, that article sucks, its only goal in life is to
> scare people and thus has no place on this list, not because its forbidden
> content but its too low quality to meet the standards here...
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 4:27:53 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  > > > Floyd wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with
> > > > the flip of a switch, every automobile in the United States
> > > > could suddenly and without warning be "turned off," all
> > > > their engines stopped, their radios disabled, all by a
> > > > malevolent saboteur.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <
> https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html
> >
>
> > > fmiser wrote:
> > >
> > > Lots of scary phrases - but _no_ real information or data.
> > > Where is the vulnerability of 5G different than 4G - or even
> > > 3G?  How could an exploit of 5G shut down the electric grid?
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that depending on the promise of a Chinese
> > > manufacturer is a safe bet - but I question the extent of the
> > > consequence.  Especially without any data.
>
> > Jaime wrote:
>
> > This article is full of misinformation and doesn't belong on
> > this list. Please take this content elsewhere.
>
> Wow!  Chill, Jaime.
>
> If this is a threat, a mechanical diesel car is quite desirable.
> And I see no verboten political content.
>
> So it is threads like this that make this list different.  And it
> has more "mercedes" and "automotive" content than many recent
> posts.  Why not yell at Kaleb for mentioning the tripped breaking
> after the rain? Or how to charge a Tesla?  Or domestic advice for
> Clay?  Or wind generators?
>
> And why did you send a reply directly to me?  If you don't like the
> list - unsubscribe, or shout at the list.  I think I gave a
> non-aggressive opinion that clearly disagrees with the article,
> yet you sent list and _me_ a cold, harsh reply...
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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It hyperbole, theres no way that "All of the cars in the United States could 
suddenly and without warning be 'turned off'". So right off the bat the writer 
is clearly an idiot.
You couldn't even turn off all the cars in one state. The writer doesn't seem 
to recognize:A. How big the USA isorB. That there are cars more than 10 years 
old or that don't have any interaction with the outside world.My Jetta, even 
though its a 2015, has no interaction outside of itself. To "turn it off" 
requires physical proximity.
So I agree with Jamie, that article sucks, its only goal in life is to scare 
people and thus has no place on this list, not because its forbidden content 
but its too low quality to meet the standards here...
-Curt

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 4:27:53 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > > > Floyd wrote:
> > >
> > > It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with
> > > the flip of a switch, every automobile in the United States
> > > could suddenly and without warning be "turned off," all
> > > their engines stopped, their radios disabled, all by a
> > > malevolent saboteur.
> > >
> > >
> > > 

> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Lots of scary phrases - but _no_ real information or data.
> > Where is the vulnerability of 5G different than 4G - or even
> > 3G?  How could an exploit of 5G shut down the electric grid?
> >
> > I'm not saying that depending on the promise of a Chinese
> > manufacturer is a safe bet - but I question the extent of the
> > consequence.  Especially without any data.

> Jaime wrote:

> This article is full of misinformation and doesn't belong on
> this list. Please take this content elsewhere.

Wow!  Chill, Jaime.  

If this is a threat, a mechanical diesel car is quite desirable.
And I see no verboten political content.  

So it is threads like this that make this list different.  And it
has more "mercedes" and "automotive" content than many recent
posts.  Why not yell at Kaleb for mentioning the tripped breaking
after the rain? Or how to charge a Tesla?  Or domestic advice for
Clay?  Or wind generators?

And why did you send a reply directly to me?  If you don't like the
list - unsubscribe, or shout at the list.  I think I gave a
non-aggressive opinion that clearly disagrees with the article,
yet you sent list and _me_ a cold, harsh reply...


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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I agree, at best its poorly written hyperbole...
-Curt

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019, 3:25:46 PM EDT, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 This article is full of misinformation and doesn't belong on this list.
Please take this content elsewhere.

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Floyd wrote:
>
> > It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with the
> > flip of a switch, every automobile in the United States could
> > suddenly and without warning be "turned off," all their engines
> > stopped, their radios disabled, all by a malevolent saboteur.
> >
> >
> https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html
>
> Lots of scary phrases - but _no_ real information or data.  Where
> is the vulnerability of 5G different than 4G - or even 3G?  How
> could an exploit of 5G shut down the electric grid?
>
> I'm not saying that depending on the promise of a Chinese
> manufacturer is a safe bet - but I question the extent of the
> consequence.  Especially without any data.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > > Floyd wrote:
> > >
> > > It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with
> > > the flip of a switch, every automobile in the United States
> > > could suddenly and without warning be "turned off," all
> > > their engines stopped, their radios disabled, all by a
> > > malevolent saboteur.
> > >
> > >
> > > 

> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Lots of scary phrases - but _no_ real information or data.
> > Where is the vulnerability of 5G different than 4G - or even
> > 3G?  How could an exploit of 5G shut down the electric grid?
> >
> > I'm not saying that depending on the promise of a Chinese
> > manufacturer is a safe bet - but I question the extent of the
> > consequence.  Especially without any data.

> Jaime wrote:

> This article is full of misinformation and doesn't belong on
> this list. Please take this content elsewhere.

Wow!  Chill, Jaime.  

If this is a threat, a mechanical diesel car is quite desirable.
And I see no verboten political content.  

So it is threads like this that make this list different.  And it
has more "mercedes" and "automotive" content than many recent
posts.  Why not yell at Kaleb for mentioning the tripped breaking
after the rain? Or how to charge a Tesla?  Or domestic advice for
Clay?  Or wind generators?

And why did you send a reply directly to me?  If you don't like the
list - unsubscribe, or shout at the list.  I think I gave a
non-aggressive opinion that clearly disagrees with the article,
yet you sent list and _me_ a cold, harsh reply...


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[MBZ] Great to hear from you, Wilton! [Was: Re: OT: drove a Tesla]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 May 2019 14:46:32 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
 wrote:

> BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3.
> 
> Wilt

Wilton,

I know you are lurking on the list, but it's great to hear from you!

How are you doing these days?

Have things dried out from all the rain there?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

This article is full of misinformation and doesn't belong on this list.
Please take this content elsewhere.

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Floyd wrote:
>
> > It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with the
> > flip of a switch, every automobile in the United States could
> > suddenly and without warning be "turned off," all their engines
> > stopped, their radios disabled, all by a malevolent saboteur.
> >
> >
> https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html
>
> Lots of scary phrases - but _no_ real information or data.  Where
> is the vulnerability of 5G different than 4G - or even 3G?  How
> could an exploit of 5G shut down the electric grid?
>
> I'm not saying that depending on the promise of a Chinese
> manufacturer is a safe bet - but I question the extent of the
> consequence.  Especially without any data.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3.

Did he get in on the deal where he gets free Supercharging like the Model S and 
Model X, or does he have to pay for his electricity?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla

[WILTON via Mercedes]

BTW, son # 2 has a Model 3.

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla


It seems there are plenty of superchargers available to drive a Model 3 
from Florida to Washington State.


https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Just-drove-a-Tesla-across-coutry-Florida-to-Washington-State-Ask-me-anything-/134-2216621/?r=-1=1=78627740

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Re: [MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Floyd wrote:

> It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with the
> flip of a switch, every automobile in the United States could
> suddenly and without warning be "turned off," all their engines
> stopped, their radios disabled, all by a malevolent saboteur.
> 
> https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html

Lots of scary phrases - but _no_ real information or data.  Where
is the vulnerability of 5G different than 4G - or even 3G?  How
could an exploit of 5G shut down the electric grid?

I'm not saying that depending on the promise of a Chinese
manufacturer is a safe bet - but I question the extent of the
consequence.  Especially without any data.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: drove a Tesla

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

It seems there are plenty of superchargers available to drive a Model 3 from 
Florida to Washington State. 

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Just-drove-a-Tesla-across-coutry-Florida-to-Washington-State-Ask-me-anything-/134-2216621/?r=-1=1=78627740

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[MBZ] OT another good reason to keep the old diesels running

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It is not an imaginary science fiction scenario that, with the flip of a 
switch, every automobile in the United States could suddenly and without 
warning be "turned off," all their engines stopped, their radios 
disabled, all by a malevolent saboteur.


https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/time_to_sound_the_alarm_about_5g.html

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Re: [MBZ] The 450SE is back

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well maybe it was that Nigerian prince I got the email from last week, but
the fellow that was supposed to accept the bank wire so the prince could
get his inheritance didn't follow through, left the poor prince high and
dry.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:57 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How stupid?
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:26 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This is the one that sold for a stupid price. I guess the bidder did not
> > pay.
> >
> > https://www.copart.com/lot/32248989
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] massive rain, breaker keeps blowing

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Could be. First thing I will do is check the sump pump. Maybe it is in the same 
circuit and with the loads of water maybe when it tried to kick on it was 
locked up or something and tripped it. It has been dry so it has not had to run 
for quite a long time. 

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> On May 1, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Replace the breaker. They do that when they get old. May just be coincidence.
> 
> Allan
> 
> "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"  writes:
> 
>> We had 2 huge waves of stores/rain come thru, very heavy rain, road
>> out front is a river. Just now all the sudden the breaker for the
>> outlets in the living room the TV is hooked up to along with the
>> ceiling light have tripped. I reset it and it tripped again right
>> away. Reset it again and it tripped after a few minutes. WTH? I don't
>> know if rain got in somewhere somehow and shorted out something. We
>> have had several power flashes today. There is a sump pump on the end
>> of the house but I really do not think it would be on the same
>> circuit. It would be closer to being on the outlets in my office. I
>> had to plug the power strip into the next room with an outlet close to
>> the one where it was originally plugged into.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] massive rain, breaker keeps blowing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s the problem with code allowing a GFCI receptacle to protect the 
downstream receptacles. Anything downstream gets wet, the whole circuit goes 
down.

I understand the logic, but hate the application.

-D

> On May 1, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had a similar problem on a circuit with a GFC-protected outlet that was
> outside, but it was the GFC breaker built into the inside outlet that would
> trip.  I just had to wait a day or two for the outside part to dry up.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:27 AM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:35:47 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know if rain got in somewhere somehow and shorted out
>>> something.  We have had several power flashes today. There is a sump
>>> pump on the end of the house but I really do not think it would be on
>>> the same circuit.  It would be closer to being on the outlets in my
>>> office.  I had to plug the power strip into the next room with an
>>> outlet close to the one where it was originally plugged into.
>> 
>> Any progress on this, Kaleb?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The 450SE is back

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How stupid?

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>
> https://www.copart.com/lot/32248989
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT Cardiac Rehab was Re: OT: Cheapest place to

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm trying to keep my sodium intake low-ish, as you say it's hard. I'm also 
trying to keep my potassium and water intake up.My blood pressure is the best 
it's ever been. Guess we finally found a drug that works and doesn't make me 
too tired.

Curt

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  On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:59 AM, archer75--- via 
Mercedes wrote:   Are you keeping your salt intake low? 
Nowadays it's nearly impossible if you're away from home unless there are 
Chinese restaurants available where they will provide low salt/low fat food.
Gerry

Curt Raymond via Mercedes  wrote:

>  Not a whole lot. /s
> To be fair I'm really outside of their normal target demographic which is to 
> say I'm 20-30 years younger than most of the folks that go to rehab.
> So anyway we stretch a little, lift some weights and then spend 15-20 minutes 
> between treadmill, stationary bike and stepper machine for 30-40 minutes 
> total.My heart rate range is something like 110-136, I forget the exact 
> numbers but basically they want me in the low 120s. We wear monitors that are 
> networked so they can watch my heart rate the whole time.
> Once every 2 weeks you're allowed to move up 1# on the weights...
> My issue is they don't push you to go faster and they actively slow your 
> weight increases. This week in the hotel gym I've been doing 10# weights 
> since they only have 5# and 10# as choices, in rehab I've been doing 7# and 
> would have moved to 8 this week. I've been interval running with my heart 
> rate around 140. The first run I got as high as 150 but this week its been 
> easy to stay around 140 while going faster than they let me go in rehab.
> Insurance pays for 36 visits (12 weeks) of rehab of which I've only completed 
> half because I keep getting interrupted by having to go to work. This drives 
> the rehab crew CRAZY, I'm about the only one that goes that isn't 
> retired...So at this point I'm thinking hard about dropping out, I've gained 
> stamina and energy this week which I attribute to pushing myself more while 
> I'm here.
> Angie has been going to a local gym crossfit-like (but not actually crossfit) 
> and wants me to go too, I'm considering it.
> I don't remember if I told you guys but last year I did Couch to 5K, up until 
> the weather got cold last fall I was "running" (jogging slowly) 9 miles a 
> week...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>    On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 1:09:14 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
>  
>  Curt writes:
> 
> >You can see them from where I go to cardiac rehab. 
> 
> What, if you don't mind me asking, is involved in the Cardiac Rehab?
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] massive rain, breaker keeps blowing

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I had a similar problem on a circuit with a GFC-protected outlet that was
outside, but it was the GFC breaker built into the inside outlet that would
trip.  I just had to wait a day or two for the outside part to dry up.
-
Max
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On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:27 AM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:35:47 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > I don't know if rain got in somewhere somehow and shorted out
> > something.  We have had several power flashes today. There is a sump
> > pump on the end of the house but I really do not think it would be on
> > the same circuit.  It would be closer to being on the outlets in my
> > office.  I had to plug the power strip into the next room with an
> > outlet close to the one where it was originally plugged into.
>
> Any progress on this, Kaleb?
>
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Re: [MBZ] massive rain, breaker keeps blowing

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Replace the breaker. They do that when they get old. May just be coincidence.

Allan

"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"  writes:

> We had 2 huge waves of stores/rain come thru, very heavy rain, road
> out front is a river. Just now all the sudden the breaker for the
> outlets in the living room the TV is hooked up to along with the
> ceiling light have tripped. I reset it and it tripped again right
> away. Reset it again and it tripped after a few minutes. WTH? I don't
> know if rain got in somewhere somehow and shorted out something. We
> have had several power flashes today. There is a sump pump on the end
> of the house but I really do not think it would be on the same
> circuit. It would be closer to being on the outlets in my office. I
> had to plug the power strip into the next room with an outlet close to
> the one where it was originally plugged into.
>

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Re: [MBZ] massive rain, breaker keeps blowing

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:35:47 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I don't know if rain got in somewhere somehow and shorted out
> something.  We have had several power flashes today. There is a sump
> pump on the end of the house but I really do not think it would be on
> the same circuit.  It would be closer to being on the outlets in my
> office.  I had to plug the power strip into the next room with an
> outlet close to the one where it was originally plugged into.

Any progress on this, Kaleb?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Copart SL500

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Going to the GABC is a right of passage for the first visit to ANC. It harkens 
back to the days of the pipeline and the gold rush mentality of those times.

I can recall being up there in the 80s after the pipeline was completed, and 
how badly the economy crashed. You would drive out into the ‘burbs of ANC and 
see block after block of empty office buildings, shuttered businesses, etc.  It 
was almost post apocalyptic looking.

-D

> On May 1, 2019, at 3:30 AM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Been past, tried to get my now adult child to go see it.  The quality of 
> performer on display outside was not much better than the raggedy homeless 
> womyn on the roadways of SEA
> 
> clay 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That would be the “Great Alaskan Bush Company” for those familiar with the 
>> area.
>> 
>> http://www.akbushcompany.com
>> 
>> BTDT but did not get a T-shirt.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Copart SL500

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

 OK Don wrote:
> >  Another approach that Clay might )or might not) use would be to 
> >  announce
>  that since he doesn't have an old Mercedes to work on, he's going down to
>  the local titty bar for a few hours and beers ...
.
>From what we've heard about the missus, that could be dangerous to life and 
>limb.
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT Cardiac Rehab was Re: OT: Cheapest place to install wind power

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Are you keeping your salt intake low? Nowadays it's nearly impossible if you're 
away from home unless there are Chinese restaurants available where they will 
provide low salt/low fat food.
Gerry

Curt Raymond via Mercedes  wrote:

>  Not a whole lot. /s
> To be fair I'm really outside of their normal target demographic which is to 
> say I'm 20-30 years younger than most of the folks that go to rehab.
> So anyway we stretch a little, lift some weights and then spend 15-20 minutes 
> between treadmill, stationary bike and stepper machine for 30-40 minutes 
> total.My heart rate range is something like 110-136, I forget the exact 
> numbers but basically they want me in the low 120s. We wear monitors that are 
> networked so they can watch my heart rate the whole time.
> Once every 2 weeks you're allowed to move up 1# on the weights...
> My issue is they don't push you to go faster and they actively slow your 
> weight increases. This week in the hotel gym I've been doing 10# weights 
> since they only have 5# and 10# as choices, in rehab I've been doing 7# and 
> would have moved to 8 this week. I've been interval running with my heart 
> rate around 140. The first run I got as high as 150 but this week its been 
> easy to stay around 140 while going faster than they let me go in rehab.
> Insurance pays for 36 visits (12 weeks) of rehab of which I've only completed 
> half because I keep getting interrupted by having to go to work. This drives 
> the rehab crew CRAZY, I'm about the only one that goes that isn't 
> retired...So at this point I'm thinking hard about dropping out, I've gained 
> stamina and energy this week which I attribute to pushing myself more while 
> I'm here.
> Angie has been going to a local gym crossfit-like (but not actually crossfit) 
> and wants me to go too, I'm considering it.
> I don't remember if I told you guys but last year I did Couch to 5K, up until 
> the weather got cold last fall I was "running" (jogging slowly) 9 miles a 
> week...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 1:09:14 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
>  
>  Curt writes:
> 
> >You can see them from where I go to cardiac rehab. 
> 
> What, if you don't mind me asking, is involved in the Cardiac Rehab?
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Copart SL500

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Been past, tried to get my now adult child to go see it.  The quality of 
performer on display outside was not much better than the raggedy homeless 
womyn on the roadways of SEA

clay 



> On Apr 30, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That would be the “Great Alaskan Bush Company” for those familiar with the 
> area.
> 
> http://www.akbushcompany.com
> 
> BTDT but did not get a T-shirt.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Copart SL500

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I fully appreciate all your advice.  I am trying to be as well kempt as 
allowable.  I am supposed to go out to dinner for Wednesday.  I inquired as to 
dress code.  She says I will be fine.  I want to know the caliber of the 
establishment, as it will be a meal with another attorney chum of hers.  I 
figure formal.  I should dress well.  Alaska is the land of hiking boots, jeans 
and fleece jackets.  But twice she has tried to wrangle me into black tie 
events with assurance that there will not really be black ties.  There were no 
tails, but ties and tuxedo were very evident.  I had to leave my very formal 
wear back home, so it was business suit.  Even got a new shirt and bow tie.

As for old cars, she is not interested.  Very practical gal.  And sort of 
clueless at times.  Blue collar upbringing and offended by the class 
distinctions she is now expected to conform to.  Living in the bush seems to 
fit her better than hob nobbing with the powerful in a Tech Town like Seattle 
where there were people with money and the need to dress well.

I will return to my bottom feeder cars and she can drive her camper

clay.

>> 
> 
> I believe I suggested all of this to you before, but I will say it again as a 
> reminder.
> 
> She is a lawyer. She works with people who judge her by the way she dresses 
> and what she drives, and where she lives, etc.
> 
> If you want to collect old Mercedes, then they need to be objects of beauty. 
> You need to stop creating green police cars and such.
> 
> Find a good example of a big Mercedes sedan that can be made to look like it 
> has real significant value. Black or Silver are likely preferred colors.
> 
> It needs to evoke respect. You do not want to appear to be a bottom feeder. 
> You need to appear to be the sort of gentleman who has impeccable taste, and 
> prefers classic vehicles rather than the present throw away vehicles. Dress 
> the part as well. You need to appear to be either coming or going to or from 
> the country club or the yacht club. Tweed jacket, penny loafers etc. If you 
> have never read the book, Dress for Success, then find a copy and read it. I 
> believe the writer's name was John Molloy and he did research into the 
> attitudes of people based upon the way they dressed etc. I believe he wrote 
> subsequent books - Dress for Success for Women and Live for Success or some 
> such that also looked at vehicle colors etc. You may not agree with all that 
> he suggests but I suspect it will go a long way toward sorting out the issues 
> with your wife if you try to see the situation from her point of view and 
> work towards a goal of having her appreciate your affection for classic 
> Mercedes. It will no doubt also improve her level of respect for you.
> 
> She needs you to appear to be dignified and respectable. If she can share 
> with her friends and co-workers, that her husband collects classic Mercedes 
> Benz, then that will have value to her. She does not want to tell folks about 
> your hobby because she is embarrassed by your bottom feeder cars. You need to 
> move on beyond free junkers unless you are prepared to quickly invest enough 
> in them to make them appear to be respectable classic vehicles. That means 
> good paint and upholstery etc.
> 
> Randy
> 
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