date:20190506

has anyone here actually procured a vermont title/registration from 
another state?   I've been reading the paperwork and the procedure is 
clear as mud.   Talked a couple weeks ago to the county here.  It seemed 
straightforward.  Get ownership affidavit from them, get title bond and 
bring in with bill of sale.   Went to get affidavit today and they would 
not give me the form.  Claimed I had to do a bunch of BS that is not in 
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Re: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124

http://store.arsnet.com/arsweb/en-us/PhoenixMetroLocations

Proper name is Arizona Refrigeration Supply... the link above gives
locations in Phoenix. They have always had what ever I needed... Not always
cheap... just available.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:30 PM G Mann  wrote:

> Look up Arizona Refrigeration. If you are a "certified AC " guy [short
> test you can do online to become one] they will sell you all the R12 you
> need.
>
> Keep it original, it will blow cold. Fix what ever leaks, AZ Refrig can
> make up new hoses for you, just take in the old ones.
> Corner of McDowell and Grand Ave, approx. All things refrigeration
> available.
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:02 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> so keep it r12, or an r12 replacement or Jim's "test refrigerant"
>> propane and butaneR134a sucks in an r12 car.
>>
>> Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 10:32 PM:
>> > Anyone have the scoop on this? There is nothing useful on the Google
>> machine. My Indy says it’ll cost me around $200 for him to do the
>> conversion.
>> > I don’t even know exactly all I’d have to do for this task. According
>> to the mountain of records I got with this car, ALL of the AC components
>> were replaced in 2005. It remained r12.
>> > Guidance?
>> >
>> > Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124

Look up Arizona Refrigeration. If you are a "certified AC " guy [short test
you can do online to become one] they will sell you all the R12 you need.

Keep it original, it will blow cold. Fix what ever leaks, AZ Refrig can
make up new hoses for you, just take in the old ones.
Corner of McDowell and Grand Ave, approx. All things refrigeration
available.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> so keep it r12, or an r12 replacement or Jim's "test refrigerant"
> propane and butaneR134a sucks in an r12 car.
>
> Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 10:32 PM:
> > Anyone have the scoop on this? There is nothing useful on the Google
> machine. My Indy says it’ll cost me around $200 for him to do the
> conversion.
> > I don’t even know exactly all I’d have to do for this task. According to
> the mountain of records I got with this car, ALL of the AC components were
> replaced in 2005. It remained r12.
> > Guidance?
> >
> > Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

2019-05-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Very Typical.  People that live in human ant piles (where they push paper and 
produce little of actual value) tend to have a different world-view from those 
that do the hard work of providing food, fuel, energy, and equipment.  

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> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 1:35 PM
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> Cc: Curt Raymond 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes
> 
>  Pretty much like the country in that regard...
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, May 6, 2019, 1:02:47 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>  On Mon, 6 May 2019 16:05:23 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > That said out where I live is much more conservative than you would
> > expect if you'd only experienced Boston or Amherst... -Curt
> 
> So Massachussetts is like Oregon, where one densely populated area overrides
> the entire rest of the state?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124

so keep it r12, or an r12 replacement or Jim's "test refrigerant"  
propane and butane    R134a sucks in an r12 car.


Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 10:32 PM:

Anyone have the scoop on this? There is nothing useful on the Google machine. 
My Indy says it’ll cost me around $200 for him to do the conversion.
I don’t even know exactly all I’d have to do for this task. According to the 
mountain of records I got with this car, ALL of the AC components were replaced 
in 2005. It remained r12.
Guidance?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124

2019-05-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

I think most here will say: don't.  Keep it R12 but maybe with an R12 
replacement refrigerany.

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> Rentfro via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 11:32 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Bob Rentfro 
> Subject: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124
> 
> Anyone have the scoop on this? There is nothing useful on the Google
> machine. My Indy says it’ll cost me around $200 for him to do the conversion.
> I don’t even know exactly all I’d have to do for this task. According to the
> mountain of records I got with this car, ALL of the AC components were
> replaced in 2005. It remained r12.
> Guidance?
> 
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124

2019-05-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

I'd probably try Envirosafe es134a. You are in AZ so you need exceptional ac. 
Shouldn't cost more than $12- $18 for juice and whatever labor.

https://www.es-refrigerants.com/products/w/id/31/t/134a-replacement/


Rick

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Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124


Anyone have the scoop on this? There is nothing useful on the Google machine. 
My Indy says it’ll cost me around $200 for him to do the conversion.
I don’t even know exactly all I’d have to do for this task. According to the 
mountain of records I got with this car, ALL of the AC components were replaced 
in 2005. It remained r12.
Guidance?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124

On Mon, 6 May 2019 20:32:06 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Anyone have the scoop on this? There is nothing useful on the Google
> machine. My Indy says it’ll cost me around $200 for him to do the
> conversion. I don’t even know exactly all I’d have to do for this task.
> According to the mountain of records I got with this car, ALL of the AC
> components were replaced in 2005. It remained r12. Guidance?

Is it not working now?

Why change it to R134a?


Craig

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[MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124

2019-05-06 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

Anyone have the scoop on this? There is nothing useful on the Google machine. 
My Indy says it’ll cost me around $200 for him to do the conversion.
I don’t even know exactly all I’d have to do for this task. According to the 
mountain of records I got with this car, ALL of the AC components were replaced 
in 2005. It remained r12. 
Guidance?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

Last used to haul Jimmy Hoffa, parked for a long time.

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2310719645866232/
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[MBZ] Somebody needs this

2019-05-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2310719645866232/


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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

2019-05-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

It has few mod cons and - as Dimitri pointed out is a BORING color.  In FL
you need PWs.  pass.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:26 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan'
> As,a,guy who has,bought & sold many cars over the years-including when I
> had a vintage car buying  & selling business- my advice to you is DON'T
> worry about insulting the seller. Politely offer your 1800. Then you can
> negotiate if nec. Also learn the walk back to your car and call someone or
> pretend.
>
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 1:00 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Went to look at this car this morning:
> >
> >
> >
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
> >
> > The good:
> >
> > Super, super solid. I found one little area of rust inside the rear
> corner
> > of the driver’s door. Otherwise, not a spec on it.
> > Runs good and strong
> > All exterior rubber has been refreshed sometime in recent history
> > New vacuum pump
> > Records from both owners back to original purchase at World Wide Motors
> in
> > Indianapolis!
> >
> > The not so good:
> > Vacuum system goobered up. Car doesn’t shift properly
> > As above, central locking has been disconnected
> > Interior is OK
> > Clear UV film on inside of all windows is crazing
> > Some blowby, but not bad
> > Exterior finish is chalky, but definitely recoverable
> > Rubber strip on back bumper loose, and we all know what a PITA those are!
> > AC is non-functional, but has a less than year old compressor on it. Says
> > it’s blowing air but no longer cold - original AC hoses, refrigerant
> > leaking through, no doubt
> >
> > Belongs to the seller’s college age daughter who bought it four years ago
> > thinking having a “classic” car would be cool. She recently purchased a
> > 2018 Honda Civic, so that’s apparently no longer the case. It’s got
> really
> > good bones but needs a lot of Martha’ing, but no repairs to speak of
> that I
> > can see, short of getting the vacuum system sorted and a new set of
> vacuum
> > valve levers on the valve cover (yes, they’re worn away to nothing!)
> >
> > They started listing it at $3k, are now down to $2750. Daughter graduates
> > from college in a week or two (it’s finals week now) and is heading to
> > graduate school. Seller (Dad) clearly has plenty of money but has no
> > interest in the car himself, as he’s a VW guy. He knows nothing about it
> > and has only driven it a couple of times.
> >
> > I spent an hour going over the car in detail and pointing everything out
> > to Dad, who seemed mildly interested from a car guy point of view.
> >
> > I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800.
> Would
> > that be offensive?  I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and
> > having a nice reliable backup car for the fleet.
> >
> > Hmmm.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-05-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

With the money you saved by DIY go out and purchase an hydraulic lift for
your garage.

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> And they’re a reminder of your age, too… I knew I had done it the day
> after. Ugh. Another reason why I’m glad this is about it for major under
> the car heavy duty work…I wish my son would hurry up and buy some property
> like he’s planning to so I can build a proper shop wth a lift.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 6, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >
> > Impressive work. These brute force under the car jobs are not for the
> faint of heart!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On May 6, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> And it’s a real testament to the design and materials to think that
> it’s been in service for 53 years and nearly everything is intact. I
> haven’t had it up to highway speeds yet, but I’m really interested to see
> how it handles now with all new rubber bits in the rear axle. I’ve got to
> replace the swing arm bushings yet, but that’s pretty much it for all of
> the chassis rubber parts once I’m done.
> >>
> >> From there I’ve got some interior stuff to do, replacing the door
> cards, and then I’m pretty much done as far as restoration work.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 6, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Strong work. The engineering and mechanical design on these cars is
> quite impressive.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iPhone
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>  On May 5, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!
> 
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
> 
>  -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] you too could be a female realtor of a certain age

Yes, 4 cyl OHV with valve noise

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 9:37 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Me too. I saw a guy driving one last week in Burbank. They have a
> particular sound that's very cool.
>
>
> Curt
>
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>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:10 PM, Dwight Giles
>  wrote:
> Makes me lust.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 9:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> There's a fellow in New Zealand rebuilding one on YouTube, real good work,
> he's even replating the hardware.
>
> Curt
>
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>   On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:47 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   That was a real land rover.   Especially
> good after someone gets rid of
> the prince of darkness in em.
>
> Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 6:45 PM:
> > Land Rover series III
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Re: [MBZ] you too could be a female realtor of a certain age

Me too. I saw a guy driving one last week in Burbank. They have a particular 
sound that's very cool.

Curt

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  On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:10 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:   
Makes me lust. 

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Mon, May 6, 2019, 9:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

There's a fellow in New Zealand rebuilding one on YouTube, real good work, he's 
even replating the hardware.

Curt

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  On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:47 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   That was a real land rover.   
Especially good after someone gets rid of 
the prince of darkness in em.

Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 6:45 PM:
> Land Rover series III


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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

Dan'
As,a,guy who has,bought & sold many cars over the years-including when I
had a vintage car buying  & selling business- my advice to you is DON'T
worry about insulting the seller. Politely offer your 1800. Then you can
negotiate if nec. Also learn the walk back to your car and call someone or
pretend.


Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Mon, May 6, 2019, 1:00 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Went to look at this car this morning:
>
>
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
>
> The good:
>
> Super, super solid. I found one little area of rust inside the rear corner
> of the driver’s door. Otherwise, not a spec on it.
> Runs good and strong
> All exterior rubber has been refreshed sometime in recent history
> New vacuum pump
> Records from both owners back to original purchase at World Wide Motors in
> Indianapolis!
>
> The not so good:
> Vacuum system goobered up. Car doesn’t shift properly
> As above, central locking has been disconnected
> Interior is OK
> Clear UV film on inside of all windows is crazing
> Some blowby, but not bad
> Exterior finish is chalky, but definitely recoverable
> Rubber strip on back bumper loose, and we all know what a PITA those are!
> AC is non-functional, but has a less than year old compressor on it. Says
> it’s blowing air but no longer cold - original AC hoses, refrigerant
> leaking through, no doubt
>
> Belongs to the seller’s college age daughter who bought it four years ago
> thinking having a “classic” car would be cool. She recently purchased a
> 2018 Honda Civic, so that’s apparently no longer the case. It’s got really
> good bones but needs a lot of Martha’ing, but no repairs to speak of that I
> can see, short of getting the vacuum system sorted and a new set of vacuum
> valve levers on the valve cover (yes, they’re worn away to nothing!)
>
> They started listing it at $3k, are now down to $2750. Daughter graduates
> from college in a week or two (it’s finals week now) and is heading to
> graduate school. Seller (Dad) clearly has plenty of money but has no
> interest in the car himself, as he’s a VW guy. He knows nothing about it
> and has only driven it a couple of times.
>
> I spent an hour going over the car in detail and pointing everything out
> to Dad, who seemed mildly interested from a car guy point of view.
>
> I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would
> that be offensive?  I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and
> having a nice reliable backup car for the fleet.
>
> Hmmm.
>
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Re: [MBZ] you too could be a female realtor of a certain age

Makes me lust.

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> There's a fellow in New Zealand rebuilding one on YouTube, real good work,
> he's even replating the hardware.
>
> Curt
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>   On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:47 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   That was a real land rover.   Especially
> good after someone gets rid of
> the prince of darkness in em.
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> Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 6:45 PM:
> > Land Rover series III
>
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Re: [MBZ] you too could be a female realtor of a certain age

There's a fellow in New Zealand rebuilding one on YouTube, real good work, he's 
even replating the hardware.

Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   That was a real land rover.   
Especially good after someone gets rid of 
the prince of darkness in em.

Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 6:45 PM:
> Land Rover series III


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Re: [MBZ] you too could be a female realtor of a certain age

Yes i changed all Lucas to Bosch. Frame rusted under aluminum body but
there were aftermarket stainless,frames

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> That was a real land rover.   Especially good after someone gets rid of
> the prince of darkness in em.
>
> Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 6:45 PM:
> > Land Rover series III
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That was a real land rover.   Especially good after someone gets rid of 
the prince of darkness in em.


Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 6:45 PM:

Land Rover series III



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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

Uncle John's  (Mike Beck) makes good stuff.  Hard cider, perry, etc.  
and he has his distillery going now also.   I thought the alcohol sales 
were year around.   I got some in Dec and some in July.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 4:21 PM:

We've got some of that around here, seasonal as you say.
I work within ten miles of it in the winter, but it's closed then.
They've got some stuff going on in the spring, but obviously not fresh cider.
http://www.ujcidermill.com/


On May 6, 2019 at 4:14 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  wrote:


The orchard we frequented in WI made their own regular and hard cider, but only 
in season. Wicked good stuff. Brewed by third or fourth generation German/Dutch 
folks.





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Re: [MBZ] you too could be a female realtor of a certain age

My 73 Land Rover series III would climb anything. Used to go over
stonewalls & snow drifts to respond to fire calls when roads were closed.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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>  You didn't watch/read about the Camel Trophy Challenge back in the '90s
> did you? They took largely stock (I think the only add on was a snorkel)
> Land Rover Discoverys across places with no roads in lands like Africa and
> South/Central America. They built barges and floated them, they built
> bridges to suspend them, they drove them with water up over the windshield,
> the trips were amazing and the things they put those trucks through
> astonishing. The Discovery has real offroad cred...
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 9:11:27 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  DING DING DING   We have a winner!   OK Don
> '
> I figgered some of you would "get it."
>
> I've called the wussy ones that since they came out.  A land rover is an
> ugly, rectangular, utilitarian, topless or ragtop jeep like vehicle. The
> glitzy shiny enclosed vehicles driven by female real estate agents are
> NOT land rovers, so I've called them Lan Drovers for decades.
>
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 5/5/19 12:16 AM:
> > Move the D and Land Rover becomes LAN Drover - someone has to keep the
> > packets in line and moving in the right direction ...
> >
> > On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:02 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Keeps them doggies moving
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
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> >>> On May 4, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes  >
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 4 May 2019 09:34:28 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
>  drives a Lan Drover.(used to prod local area networks along)
> >>> Huh?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

2019-05-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

We've got some of that around here, seasonal as you say. 
I work within ten miles of it in the winter, but it's closed then. 
They've got some stuff going on in the spring, but obviously not fresh cider. 
http://www.ujcidermill.com/

> On May 6, 2019 at 4:14 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The orchard we frequented in WI made their own regular and hard cider, but 
> only in season. Wicked good stuff. Brewed by third or fourth generation 
> German/Dutch folks.

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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

I like Nueske's bacon! Best I ever had!   Usingers beef or garlic summer 
sausage is good. Nueske's brats are bad.  Trigs makes better, and 
Fareway grocery stores and Usinger's are the best brats.  Klements makes 
the best mass produced brats I've tasted.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 3:37 PM:

Almost forgot - Bernie’s Fine Meats in my town of Port Washington.

I need to order a care package from them soon….

http://www.berniesfinemeats.com

-D jonesing for some summer sausage now.





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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

Nasonville (WI) cheese curds and Milton Creamery curds (Milton, IA) are 
my favorite.  Yeah, I know tough to have Milton beat out most Wi 
curds, but they do.   It is all Amish milk, and they do it right!   Both 
are better than any curds in the cheese store by Usingers downtown Milw.


We took 32 down to green bay a couple years ago, but not that far south.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 3:34 PM:

Apparently not. That is, the original owners sold out from what I can see.

It’s in Gibbsville and used to be called Woepse’s Orchard. Looks like they sold 
out last year to some unrelated people and they’re doing all the granola 
Birkenstock stuff. We used to take the kids in the fall every year for bushel 
baskets of apples, freshly ground horseradish (yum!) and fresh cider.

https://gibbsvilleorchard.com

At least Gibbsville Cheese is still there….

http://gibbsvillecheese.com

Double yum. “Real” cheese curds, the kind that squeak when you bite into them.

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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

Almost forgot - Bernie’s Fine Meats in my town of Port Washington.

I need to order a care package from them soon….

http://www.berniesfinemeats.com

-D jonesing for some summer sausage now.


> On May 6, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Apparently not. That is, the original owners sold out from what I can see.
> 
> It’s in Gibbsville and used to be called Woepse’s Orchard. Looks like they 
> sold out last year to some unrelated people and they’re doing all the granola 
> Birkenstock stuff. We used to take the kids in the fall every year for bushel 
> baskets of apples, freshly ground horseradish (yum!) and fresh cider.
> 
> https://gibbsvilleorchard.com
> 
> At least Gibbsville Cheese is still there….
> 
> http://gibbsvillecheese.com
> 
> Double yum. “Real” cheese curds, the kind that squeak when you bite into them.
> 
> -D pinin for WI
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> They still there?   Name? place?
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 3:14 PM:
>>> The orchard we frequented in WI made their own regular and hard cider, but 
>>> only in season. Wicked good stuff. Brewed by third or fourth generation 
>>> German/Dutch folks.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

Apparently not. That is, the original owners sold out from what I can see.

It’s in Gibbsville and used to be called Woepse’s Orchard. Looks like they sold 
out last year to some unrelated people and they’re doing all the granola 
Birkenstock stuff. We used to take the kids in the fall every year for bushel 
baskets of apples, freshly ground horseradish (yum!) and fresh cider.

https://gibbsvilleorchard.com

At least Gibbsville Cheese is still there….

http://gibbsvillecheese.com

Double yum. “Real” cheese curds, the kind that squeak when you bite into them.

-D pinin for WI

> On May 6, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They still there?   Name? place?
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 3:14 PM:
>> The orchard we frequented in WI made their own regular and hard cider, but 
>> only in season. Wicked good stuff. Brewed by third or fourth generation 
>> German/Dutch folks.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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They still there?   Name? place?

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 3:14 PM:

The orchard we frequented in WI made their own regular and hard cider, but only 
in season. Wicked good stuff. Brewed by third or fourth generation German/Dutch 
folks.

-D





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Re: [MBZ] OT: cleaning Mac keyboard

My first MacBook Air, purchased used, had the period or comma key die on it, I 
don’t recall which one. No realistic fix, so I put it in a dock with a keyboard 
and use it for a Plex server. Essentially a “headless” MacBook Air.

-D

 
> On May 6, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wouldn't have helped in my case as I lost that whole column of keys, esc, 
> tilde, tab, caps lock, left shift and fn. It'd have had to map it to the 
> other side of the keyboard, maybe the option key.Eventually I sucked it up 
> and got a replacement. I've been much more careful with food debris since 
> then.
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:56:31 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> On Mon, 6 May 2019 18:33:37 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>>   I really enjoy typing on those keyboards but they're known to be weak.
>> I had one where the whole left most column of keys quit working, its
>> okay to go without that shift key but losing ESC was a problem... -Curt
> 
> When I was working at the University of Texas' Applied Research
> Laboratory, where Macs were used almost exclusively, there was an
> application which would remap the escape function to the back single
> quote/tilde key.
> 
> The undergrads liked it because they wouldn't have to reach so far for
> the escape key. I disliked it because it took away the back single
> quote/tilde key, which I used a lot when logged onto the large unix
> machine (and which I still do in Linux).
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

The SEb should be OK, as it’s got altitude compensation, I believe. The carb 
version (SE) would probably not do well.

-D

> On May 6, 2019, at 3:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They are not much good going over the continental divide in CO.  Actually, 
> neither is a 220Sb, so Dan's 220SEb won't do well there either.   The quantum 
> turbo Diesel was acceptable, but not great crossing on I-80.
> 
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 1:40 PM:
>>  Here in hill country there were several places on my commute I knew my 240D 
>> had to be going 70mph at the base to make the hill in 4th gear. Otherwise it 
>> was 45mph with the engine roaring in 3rd gear. I can't imagine it in a place 
>> with really big hills...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

The orchard we frequented in WI made their own regular and hard cider, but only 
in season. Wicked good stuff. Brewed by third or fourth generation German/Dutch 
folks.

-D

 
> On May 6, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Real German beer is hard to beat.  (Brewed to /*Reinheitsgebot*/)  Naturally 
> carbonated. little bubbles.  tastes great even at cave or basement temps.   
> There are real beers made at microbreweries, and most are passable or good 
> and a few even great.
> 
> Horse pee is not my favorite.   I think I have only choked down 2 or 3 
> cans/bottles of that in the past 30 years.  I refer to Merkun beer as water 
> or yellow water. (Big bubbles like soda pop)
> 
> Same with cider.  real cider is great.  Woodchuck (upchuck) is chinee juice 
> concentrate, watered and fermented to wine, then run through a soda pop 
> carbonator.  Angry orch etc is all the same.  Real cider is made with the 
> same process as champagne.  Fermented to wine, bottled and second 
> fermentation to tiny bubbles. NO sulfur.
> 
> Guiness in IE now has so much preservative that I can't drink more than a 
> pint.
> 
> Mitch is in a position where he can obtain good real cider, perry and such 
> with a short trip.  For most of the rest of us, make it yourself or it is 
> tough to get.  Actually I think Dan can find Scrumpy (from Flint, MI) in his 
> area.  I once found it in Chitcago.  Scrumpy is real cider and cert organic 
> too.
> 
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 1:37 PM:
>>  Come to MA, I'll spot you a pint of Berkshire Brewing Coffee House porter. 
>> I'll spend the time to make sure the place has a nitro tap. Pure bliss, my 
>> absolute favorite beer.
>> Second place is "Victory at Sea" from Ballast Point but its a heavyweight, 
>> like 9%...
>> -Curt
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

2019-05-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

German beer is chemical free!

—FT
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> On May 6, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> Real German beer is hard to beat. 

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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

2019-05-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

No it’s an old guy selling out his antiques business. 

Funny aspect:  a buddy of mine bought a box truck cheap at some auction a year 
or so ago so I send him this link and ask him if he wants to go look at it with 
me. He says “is that Ed’s?”  Yah. He says “I tried to buy that from him 15 
years ago for $6500 and he wouldn’t sell it. “

Haha I should get it cheap just to spite him!!!

--FT
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> On May 6, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do the box contents? This is like storage wars!.
> 
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dang, it’s got a tail lift, too. Nice!
>> 
>> I can see it now:
>> 
>> “Floyd Thursby Cartage”.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On May 6, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> pics up now
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 5/6/19 1:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
 On Mon, 6 May 2019 09:36:59 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> Hard rule on commercial size tires is 5 year life, then replace. So, it
> would have to have tires. Recaps could work on rears, but steer tires,
> new only. You do NOT want a front steer tire failure.
 What he said!
 
 
> Should be able to get a set of 11Rx22.5 recaps for the rears in the
> $125-$150 range,each, New steer tires, if you shop hard in the $200
>> each
> range. Expect Chinese tires at that price, but they are actually
> holding up well in the commercial use.
 
 Go to Simple Tire's commercial page, https://simpletire.com/heavy-truck
>> .
 
 BTW, the tire prices on their site change from day to day, at least for
 commercial tires (215/75R-17.5).
 
 Simple Tire has a pre-Summer sale going on now, but I think it's only
>> for
 passenger tires.
>> https://simpletire.com/tire-deals?utm_campaign=Deals_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9rJquDy3gAwcHP4G3izbYg6F7VbIzMNTQYufZz2zSBUIIb7VKKYR0atEHC1DRWcOPtQPLdtjMhtf3SbDmMstiEVPoboQ&_hsmi=72386788_content=72386788_source=hs_email=05eeb8aa-ce3b-449a-9fe2-cc515f8dc392|1238cd2b-713c-4b2b-b6b2-5bc7481f2539
 
 They also have a discount for military, if that applies.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

They are not much good going over the continental divide in CO.  
Actually, neither is a 220Sb, so Dan's 220SEb won't do well there 
either.   The quantum turbo Diesel was acceptable, but not great 
crossing on I-80.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 1:40 PM:

  Here in hill country there were several places on my commute I knew my 240D 
had to be going 70mph at the base to make the hill in 4th gear. Otherwise it 
was 45mph with the engine roaring in 3rd gear. I can't imagine it in a place 
with really big hills...
-Curt

 



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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

Real German beer is hard to beat.  (Brewed to /*Reinheitsgebot*/)  
Naturally carbonated. little bubbles.  tastes great even at cave or 
basement temps.   There are real beers made at microbreweries, and most 
are passable or good and a few even great.


Horse pee is not my favorite.   I think I have only choked down 2 or 3 
cans/bottles of that in the past 30 years.  I refer to Merkun beer as 
water or yellow water. (Big bubbles like soda pop)


Same with cider.  real cider is great.  Woodchuck (upchuck) is chinee 
juice concentrate, watered and fermented to wine, then run through a 
soda pop carbonator.  Angry orch etc is all the same.  Real cider is 
made with the same process as champagne.  Fermented to wine, bottled and 
second fermentation to tiny bubbles. NO sulfur.


Guiness in IE now has so much preservative that I can't drink more than 
a pint.


Mitch is in a position where he can obtain good real cider, perry and 
such with a short trip.  For most of the rest of us, make it yourself or 
it is tough to get.  Actually I think Dan can find Scrumpy (from Flint, 
MI) in his area.  I once found it in Chitcago.  Scrumpy is real cider 
and cert organic too.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 1:37 PM:

  Come to MA, I'll spot you a pint of Berkshire Brewing Coffee House porter. 
I'll spend the time to make sure the place has a nitro tap. Pure bliss, my 
absolute favorite beer.
Second place is "Victory at Sea" from Ballast Point but its a heavyweight, like 
9%...
-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

2019-05-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Do the box contents? This is like storage wars!.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dang, it’s got a tail lift, too. Nice!
>
> I can see it now:
>
> “Floyd Thursby Cartage”.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 6, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > pics up now
> >
> >
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 5/6/19 1:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> >> On Mon, 6 May 2019 09:36:59 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hard rule on commercial size tires is 5 year life, then replace. So, it
> >>> would have to have tires. Recaps could work on rears, but steer tires,
> >>> new only. You do NOT want a front steer tire failure.
> >> What he said!
> >>
> >>
> >>> Should be able to get a set of 11Rx22.5 recaps for the rears in the
> >>> $125-$150 range,each, New steer tires, if you shop hard in the $200
> each
> >>> range. Expect Chinese tires at that price, but they are actually
> >>> holding up well in the commercial use.
> >>
> >> Go to Simple Tire's commercial page, https://simpletire.com/heavy-truck
> .
> >>
> >> BTW, the tire prices on their site change from day to day, at least for
> >> commercial tires (215/75R-17.5).
> >>
> >> Simple Tire has a pre-Summer sale going on now, but I think it's only
> for
> >> passenger tires.
> >>
> >>
> https://simpletire.com/tire-deals?utm_campaign=Deals_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9rJquDy3gAwcHP4G3izbYg6F7VbIzMNTQYufZz2zSBUIIb7VKKYR0atEHC1DRWcOPtQPLdtjMhtf3SbDmMstiEVPoboQ&_hsmi=72386788_content=72386788_source=hs_email=05eeb8aa-ce3b-449a-9fe2-cc515f8dc392|1238cd2b-713c-4b2b-b6b2-5bc7481f2539
> >>
> >> They also have a discount for military, if that applies.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] It's a Mercedes 1116 box truck

 The specs now are absurd, closing in on 1000lb/ft.
IIRC they de-rate the manual trans to keep them together. The bro-dozers can't 
be trusted to drive reasonably.
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 3:10:05 PM EDT, Jim Cathey 
 wrote:  
 
 The regular OM352 in my Unimog is only about 100HP.  The Cummins 6BTA (5.9l) 
was the smallest
OTR truck engine, IIRC, and is rated in the 2-300HP range.  In a 1997 Dodge, 
it's 200HP and
450lb/ft of torque.  (The 8l V10 gasser is 300HP and 450lb/ft, it revs higher.) 
 For years the 6B
was detuned In the Dodge so it wouldn't break things.  (I think the first ones 
were rated 160HP.)
When they finally hit about 300HP they had to up the displacement in order to 
stay in the HP wars.
It's now what, a 6.7l engine?  Dunno the specs.

-- Jim
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cleaning Mac keyboard

 Wouldn't have helped in my case as I lost that whole column of keys, esc, 
tilde, tab, caps lock, left shift and fn. It'd have had to map it to the other 
side of the keyboard, maybe the option key.Eventually I sucked it up and got a 
replacement. I've been much more careful with food debris since then.

-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:56:31 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 On Mon, 6 May 2019 18:33:37 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  I really enjoy typing on those keyboards but they're known to be weak.
> I had one where the whole left most column of keys quit working, its
> okay to go without that shift key but losing ESC was a problem... -Curt

When I was working at the University of Texas' Applied Research
Laboratory, where Macs were used almost exclusively, there was an
application which would remap the escape function to the back single
quote/tilde key.

The undergrads liked it because they wouldn't have to reach so far for
the escape key. I disliked it because it took away the back single
quote/tilde key, which I used a lot when logged onto the large unix
machine (and which I still do in Linux).

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It's a Mercedes 1116 box truck

the 11 is rated 11 metric tons  (tonnes) and the 16 is related to HP or 
Kw.  Anyhow, that was the bigger truck, the 1113 was the smaller one.   
Rectangular headlights marks it as one of the last years imported.


All in all a great truck, hard to kill, but a bit like driving a 220D. 
They still run them in SA and Africa.   Put it on copart an watch the 
nigerian kings bid.




Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 1:36 PM:
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html 



Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have 
air in them.


Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly 
common and parts are likely easy to get.


Is it BaTworthy? 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/ 



here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800 
https://www.proxibid.com/1980-Mercedes-L-1116-S1/lotInformation/38664184





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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

If the modulator is not hooked up to vacuum, it won't shift until 
redline and will jerk very badly.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 1:20 PM:

I have no doubt things are mal/mis adjusted based on what I saw. Maybe it’s 
just my attention to detail, but I find it curious that a so-called “German 
mechanic” that serviced the car recently missed the vacuum valve levers and 
didn’t adjust the transmission modulator. The vacuum lines were all akimbo, so 
I suspect there’s a good chance the modulator isn’t even hooked up, or if so, 
connected in the wrong place in the vacuum circuit, or the vacuum valve on the 
injection pump is out of adjustment.

The seller said it got a new “brake booster” but in reality it got a new vacuum 
pump. Still has the original brake booster. And the fluid was black, too. They 
don’t know this car at all.

-D




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Re: [MBZ] It's a Mercedes 1116 box truck

2019-05-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

The regular OM352 in my Unimog is only about 100HP.  The Cummins 6BTA (5.9l) 
was the smallest
OTR truck engine, IIRC, and is rated in the 2-300HP range.  In a 1997 Dodge, 
it's 200HP and
450lb/ft of torque.  (The 8l V10 gasser is 300HP and 450lb/ft, it revs higher.) 
 For years the 6B
was detuned In the Dodge so it wouldn't break things.  (I think the first ones 
were rated 160HP.)
When they finally hit about 300HP they had to up the displacement in order to 
stay in the HP wars.
It's now what, a 6.7l engine?  Dunno the specs.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cleaning Mac keyboard

On Mon, 6 May 2019 18:33:37 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  I really enjoy typing on those keyboards but they're known to be weak.
> I had one where the whole left most column of keys quit working, its
> okay to go without that shift key but losing ESC was a problem... -Curt

When I was working at the University of Texas' Applied Research
Laboratory, where Macs were used almost exclusively, there was an
application which would remap the escape function to the back single
quote/tilde key.

The undergrads liked it because they wouldn't have to reach so far for
the escape key. I disliked it because it took away the back single
quote/tilde key, which I used a lot when logged onto the large unix
machine (and which I still do in Linux).

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It's a Mercedes 1116 box truck

 How powerful would a like American truck be? IIRC an OM 352LA 
(turbo/intercooled) is around 200hp, its only a 5.6l. Lotsa torque though.
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:43:17 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Buy it, sell the box, build a bed to make a car-hauler.
-or-
Buy it, turn the box into your mobile living quarters, roam the
country-side at will.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:37 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
>
> Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have
> air in them.
>
> Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly common
> and parts are likely easy to get.
>
> Is it BaTworthy?
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/
>
> here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800
> https://www.proxibid.com/1980-Mercedes-L-1116-S1/lotInformation/38664184
>
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Re: [MBZ] It's a Mercedes 1116 box truck

 It must be quite a thing to drive. That big box in between the seats a heater, 
or air conditioner?The shifter is wy down between the seats...
The Pisten Bully the snowmobile club owns has an OM352LA, the LA is intercooled 
and turbocharged. Transplantation seems harder than its worth but having a 
spare engine appeals...
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:37:10 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html

Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have 
air in them.

Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly common 
and parts are likely easy to get.

Is it BaTworthy? 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/

here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800 
https://www.proxibid.com/1980-Mercedes-L-1116-S1/lotInformation/38664184

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[MBZ] It's a Mercedes 1116 box truck


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html

Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have 
air in them.


Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly common 
and parts are likely easy to get.


Is it BaTworthy? 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/


here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800 
https://www.proxibid.com/1980-Mercedes-L-1116-S1/lotInformation/38664184


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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

 It still won't be fast...
My '98 Jetta TDI was a rocketship compared to the '78 240D it replaced. It used 
just over half the fuel to go the same distance. Didn't have the stately 
demeanor though...
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:01:02 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 6 May 2019 13:42:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the
> first 240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..

Well, if it had an automatic transmission which wasn't properly adjusted,
yes, it will be slow.

But if you shift it manually and get the RPM up, it won't be that slow.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It's a Mercedes 1116 box truck

Buy it, sell the box, build a bed to make a car-hauler.
-or-
Buy it, turn the box into your mobile living quarters, roam the
country-side at will.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:37 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
>
> Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have
> air in them.
>
> Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly common
> and parts are likely easy to get.
>
> Is it BaTworthy?
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/
>
> here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800
> https://www.proxibid.com/1980-Mercedes-L-1116-S1/lotInformation/38664184
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

 Here in hill country there were several places on my commute I knew my 240D 
had to be going 70mph at the base to make the hill in 4th gear. Otherwise it 
was 45mph with the engine roaring in 3rd gear. I can't imagine it in a place 
with really big hills...
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:11:38 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm thinking that the throttle linkage is mal-adjusted.  My father had an
'83 240D that I drove on a nice trip, and it really was just fine.  Slow,
yeah, but no glacial.  Once you got it rolling it did just fine.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I definitely drove it with my foot to the floor, and it did respond. With
> very little smoke, too, I might add. Another plus.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 6, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 6 May 2019 13:42:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the
> >> first 240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..
>
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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

 Come to MA, I'll spot you a pint of Berkshire Brewing Coffee House porter. 
I'll spend the time to make sure the place has a nitro tap. Pure bliss, my 
absolute favorite beer.
Second place is "Victory at Sea" from Ballast Point but its a heavyweight, like 
9%...
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 1:52:19 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Almost true - still haven't found anything quite as good as Fuller's London
Porter with under 6% alcohol.
Also, your ML320 has an American transfer case ...

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:35 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I find it difficult to comprehend imported beer when the USA is
> overflowing with outstanding microbrews everywhere you turn. IMO their
> quality is superior to any imports, and the variety will suit anyone's
> taste.
>
> OTOH, I am pleased that my American Iron (ML320) has an engine and trans
> aus Deutschland.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 6:23 PM
> To: Dwight Giles
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opsie
>
> I remember drinking Lowenbrau, which I used to love.  It tasted funny.
> This was just after they switched production over to the USA. Or maybe it
> was Carlsberg??
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:45 PM Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
>
> > Not in in current political climate. Made in USA I is top of list now.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Sun, May 5, 2019, 1:04 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That's weird.  I'd have thought made in Germany was a better selling
> >> point.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 9:28 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> > North Charleston's Mercedes-Benz Vans slams brakes on 'Made in USA'
> ads
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cleaning Mac keyboard

 I really enjoy typing on those keyboards but they're known to be weak. I had 
one where the whole left most column of keys quit working, its okay to go 
without that shift key but losing ESC was a problem...
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 1:37:50 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Yeah it is an aluminum extended keyboard with the numeric pad and nav 
pad.  I should try it in another machine and see if it works on one of 
those, if it doesn't I might hose it down with contact cleaner and see 
if it cleans it up enought to work.

--FT

On 5/6/19 12:19 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Depends on which one it is. The newest keyboards are un-fixable. Is it 
> one of the metal frame ones?
>
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 12:23:47 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> This morning my key board was not working right. Some of the keys 
> weren’t registering. The computer was acting funky in some other ways 
> too but not sure that had anything to do with the keyboard as I 
> plugged in another one and that’s working ok.
>
> So can I give it a drenching with some contact cleaner around the 
> keys?  Or some other process? Dishwasher???  What’s the best way to 
> try to get it working right, or might it be the electronics have gone 
> wonky?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

2019-05-06 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

My grandparents loved Lum's. They would each swill two mugs of Loewenbrau while 
pounding Pall Malls and ordering one of those hot dogs and an order of liver 
one onions. They would split each order and share.
Lum’s turned out to be one of the last places in town that continued to allow 
smoking and after my grandfather passed, I would continue the practice and take 
my grandmother to Lum’s once a week to swill LB and split meals. 
Lum’s banned smoking about a month after my grandmother got the big job. I 
don’t think it’s a coincidence. 

Bob R

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> On May 6, 2019, at 10:51 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Almost true - still haven't found anything quite as good as Fuller's London
> Porter with under 6% alcohol.
> Also, your ML320 has an American transfer case ...
> 
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:35 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I find it difficult to comprehend imported beer when the USA is
>> overflowing with outstanding microbrews everywhere you turn. IMO their
>> quality is superior to any imports, and the variety will suit anyone's
>> taste.
>> 
>> OTOH, I am pleased that my American Iron (ML320) has an engine and trans
>> aus Deutschland.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 6:23 PM
>> To: Dwight Giles
>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opsie
>> 
>> I remember drinking Lowenbrau, which I used to love.  It tasted funny.
>> This was just after they switched production over to the USA. Or maybe it
>> was Carlsberg??
>> 
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:45 PM Dwight Giles 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not in in current political climate. Made in USA I is top of list now.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Sun, May 5, 2019, 1:04 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 That's weird.  I'd have thought made in Germany was a better selling
 point.
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> North Charleston's Mercedes-Benz Vans slams brakes on 'Made in USA'
>> ads
> 
> 
 
>> https://www.postandcourier.com/business/north-charleston-s-mercedes-benz-vans-slams-brakes-on-made/article_7909a468-61e2-11e9-818d-1bafa4229022.html
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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

Dang, it’s got a tail lift, too. Nice!

I can see it now:

“Floyd Thursby Cartage”.

-D


> On May 6, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> pics up now
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/6/19 1:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 May 2019 09:36:59 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hard rule on commercial size tires is 5 year life, then replace. So, it
>>> would have to have tires. Recaps could work on rears, but steer tires,
>>> new only. You do NOT want a front steer tire failure.
>> What he said!
>> 
>> 
>>> Should be able to get a set of 11Rx22.5 recaps for the rears in the
>>> $125-$150 range,each, New steer tires, if you shop hard in the $200 each
>>> range. Expect Chinese tires at that price, but they are actually
>>> holding up well in the commercial use.
>> 
>> Go to Simple Tire's commercial page, https://simpletire.com/heavy-truck.
>> 
>> BTW, the tire prices on their site change from day to day, at least for
>> commercial tires (215/75R-17.5).
>> 
>> Simple Tire has a pre-Summer sale going on now, but I think it's only for
>> passenger tires.
>> 
>> https://simpletire.com/tire-deals?utm_campaign=Deals_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9rJquDy3gAwcHP4G3izbYg6F7VbIzMNTQYufZz2zSBUIIb7VKKYR0atEHC1DRWcOPtQPLdtjMhtf3SbDmMstiEVPoboQ&_hsmi=72386788_content=72386788_source=hs_email=05eeb8aa-ce3b-449a-9fe2-cc515f8dc392|1238cd2b-713c-4b2b-b6b2-5bc7481f2539
>> 
>> They also have a discount for military, if that applies.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

I have no doubt things are mal/mis adjusted based on what I saw. Maybe it’s 
just my attention to detail, but I find it curious that a so-called “German 
mechanic” that serviced the car recently missed the vacuum valve levers and 
didn’t adjust the transmission modulator. The vacuum lines were all akimbo, so 
I suspect there’s a good chance the modulator isn’t even hooked up, or if so, 
connected in the wrong place in the vacuum circuit, or the vacuum valve on the 
injection pump is out of adjustment.

The seller said it got a new “brake booster” but in reality it got a new vacuum 
pump. Still has the original brake booster. And the fluid was black, too. They 
don’t know this car at all.

-D

> On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking that the throttle linkage is mal-adjusted.  My father had an
> '83 240D that I drove on a nice trip, and it really was just fine.  Slow,
> yeah, but no glacial.  Once you got it rolling it did just fine.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I definitely drove it with my foot to the floor, and it did respond. With
>> very little smoke, too, I might add. Another plus.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 6 May 2019 13:42:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the
 first 240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

pics up now

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html

--FT

On 5/6/19 1:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 6 May 2019 09:36:59 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:

Hard rule on commercial size tires is 5 year life, then replace. So, it
would have to have tires. Recaps could work on rears, but steer tires,
new only. You do NOT want a front steer tire failure.

What he said!

Should be able to get a set of 11Rx22.5 recaps for the rears in the
$125-$150 range,each, New steer tires, if you shop hard in the $200 each
range. Expect Chinese tires at that price, but they are actually
holding up well in the commercial use.

Go to Simple Tire's commercial page, https://simpletire.com/heavy-truck.

BTW, the tire prices on their site change from day to day, at least for
commercial tires (215/75R-17.5).

Simple Tire has a pre-Summer sale going on now, but I think it's only for
passenger tires.

https://simpletire.com/tire-deals?utm_campaign=Deals_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9rJquDy3gAwcHP4G3izbYg6F7VbIzMNTQYufZz2zSBUIIb7VKKYR0atEHC1DRWcOPtQPLdtjMhtf3SbDmMstiEVPoboQ&_hsmi=72386788_content=72386788_source=hs_email=05eeb8aa-ce3b-449a-9fe2-cc515f8dc392|1238cd2b-713c-4b2b-b6b2-5bc7481f2539

They also have a discount for military, if that applies.

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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

I'm thinking that the throttle linkage is mal-adjusted.  My father had an
'83 240D that I drove on a nice trip, and it really was just fine.  Slow,
yeah, but no glacial.  Once you got it rolling it did just fine.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 2:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I definitely drove it with my foot to the floor, and it did respond. With
> very little smoke, too, I might add. Another plus.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 6, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 6 May 2019 13:42:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the
> >> first 240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..
>
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Re: [MBZ] How the heck do you remove quick connect fuel fittings

I had to do that on my Suburban when I had to drop the tank to change 
the pump.  The fittings are up top between the tank and the floor with 
NO room to get a grip on the fitting.  Took forever to get them loose.


--FT

On 5/5/19 1:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Need to remove the quick connect lines on my duramax. I have the plastic unlock 
tool set. You are supposed to insert it into the fuel line end to release the 
tabs then pull the line off. I can’t get it to push in to release the tabs. I 
googled videos and they all show it being done with 1 hand. WTH?

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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

Stately pace to hone your driving skills.  I guess it is slower than the 
NA 300TD since it is 60 less


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On 5/6/19 1:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, it is. Not the deeper cream color that I prefer, but the really bland, 
almost white, light beige or whatever it is.

But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the first 
240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..

-D



On May 6, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Boring color for that vintage of car and automatic tranny. Two more hits!

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On May 6, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

Dan asks:


I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would that 
be offensive?

Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make sure 
it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy it, and 
cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it has no 
acceleration.


I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable car 
to flip on BaT.

There. I fixed it.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

On Mon, 6 May 2019 13:42:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the
> first 240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..

Well, if it had an automatic transmission which wasn't properly adjusted,
yes, it will be slow.

But if you shift it manually and get the RPM up, it won't be that slow.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

I definitely drove it with my foot to the floor, and it did respond. With very 
little smoke, too, I might add. Another plus.

-D


> On May 6, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 6 May 2019 13:42:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the
>> first 240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..
> 
> Well, if it had an automatic transmission which wasn't properly adjusted,
> yes, it will be slow.
> 
> But if you shift it manually and get the RPM up, it won't be that slow.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

2019-05-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

That’s right. I spent an hour or so yesterday trying to get those fuel lines 
off the duramax then gave up for the day. 

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>> I think it would need a lot more freshening to even remotely resemble a BAT 
>> flip.
> 
> And one of you email signatures is
> 
> “Mercedes Martha Stewart” 
> 
> I rest my case. You'll buy it for $1600 (the listed price is going to drop 
> again). You'll give it the Martha treatment. You'll get bored. It will be 
> clean enough for BaT. It will sell for over $4k. 
> 
> That's my prediction. 
> 
> And Kaleb (and I) will marvel at how you can get so much done in so little 
> time, while we struggle to get moving at all some days. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

2019-05-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

>I think it would need a lot more freshening to even remotely resemble a BAT 
>flip.

And one of you email signatures is

“Mercedes Martha Stewart” 

I rest my case. You'll buy it for $1600 (the listed price is going to drop 
again). You'll give it the Martha treatment. You'll get bored. It will be clean 
enough for BaT. It will sell for over $4k. 

That's my prediction. 

And Kaleb (and I) will marvel at how you can get so much done in so little 
time, while we struggle to get moving at all some days. 

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Re: [MBZ] How the heck do you remove quick connect fuel fittings

2019-05-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Or, you will be so frustrated by both the attempt to remove the fitting and
the stealer's shop fees, that you buy a new vehicle instead and defer to
frustration another few years ...

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 11:18 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> It is a clever device designed to so discourage the DIY home repair that
> you will take it to the dealer, who then charges you 5 hrs of shop labor at
> flat rate of $228 per hr, plus other fees, to do the job. And, your
> frustration level will be so high, at that point, you will be glad and
> grateful to pay the outrageous dealer shop rates.
>
>  Only partly tongue in cheek sarcastic >
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

2019-05-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

You get used to it after a while. 

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> On May 6, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, it is. Not the deeper cream color that I prefer, but the really bland, 
> almost white, light beige or whatever it is.
> 
> But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the first 
> 240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Boring color for that vintage of car and automatic tranny. Two more hits!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 6, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan asks:
>>> 
 I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would 
 that be offensive?
>>> 
>>> Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make 
>>> sure it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy 
>>> it, and cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it 
>>> has no acceleration. 
>>> 
 I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable 
 car to flip on BaT. 
>>> 
>>> There. I fixed it. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

I would like to own/drive a diesel finnie or clown car (Ponton), especially a 
stick. I think that would be great.

-D


> On May 6, 2019, at 1:44 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> Drive a 190Dc.THen a 190Db, then a 180D with the OM636!
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 12:42 PM:
>> Yeah, it is. Not the deeper cream color that I prefer, but the really bland, 
>> almost white, light beige or whatever it is.
>> 
>> But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the first 
>> 240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Boring color for that vintage of car and automatic tranny. Two more hits!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 6, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Dan asks:
 
> I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. 
> Would that be offensive?
 Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make 
 sure it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy 
 it, and cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it 
 has no acceleration.
 
> I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable 
> car to flip on BaT.
 There. I fixed it.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Was: Ooooopsie, now Beer

2019-05-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Almost true - still haven't found anything quite as good as Fuller's London
Porter with under 6% alcohol.
Also, your ML320 has an American transfer case ...

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:35 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I find it difficult to comprehend imported beer when the USA is
> overflowing with outstanding microbrews everywhere you turn. IMO their
> quality is superior to any imports, and the variety will suit anyone's
> taste.
>
> OTOH, I am pleased that my American Iron (ML320) has an engine and trans
> aus Deutschland.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 6:23 PM
> To: Dwight Giles
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opsie
>
> I remember drinking Lowenbrau, which I used to love.  It tasted funny.
> This was just after they switched production over to the USA. Or maybe it
> was Carlsberg??
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:45 PM Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
>
> > Not in in current political climate. Made in USA I is top of list now.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Sun, May 5, 2019, 1:04 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That's weird.  I'd have thought made in Germany was a better selling
> >> point.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 9:28 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > North Charleston's Mercedes-Benz Vans slams brakes on 'Made in USA'
> ads
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://www.postandcourier.com/business/north-charleston-s-mercedes-benz-vans-slams-brakes-on-made/article_7909a468-61e2-11e9-818d-1bafa4229022.html
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...


Drive a 190Dc.    THen a 190Db, then a 180D with the OM636!

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 12:42 PM:

Yeah, it is. Not the deeper cream color that I prefer, but the really bland, 
almost white, light beige or whatever it is.

But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the first 
240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..

-D



On May 6, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Boring color for that vintage of car and automatic tranny. Two more hits!

Sent from my iPhone


On May 6, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

Dan asks:


I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would that 
be offensive?

Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make sure 
it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy it, and 
cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it has no 
acceleration.


I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable car 
to flip on BaT.

There. I fixed it.

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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

On Mon, 6 May 2019 09:36:59 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Hard rule on commercial size tires is 5 year life, then replace. So, it
> would have to have tires. Recaps could work on rears, but steer tires,
> new only. You do NOT want a front steer tire failure.

What he said!


> Should be able to get a set of 11Rx22.5 recaps for the rears in the
> $125-$150 range,each, New steer tires, if you shop hard in the $200 each
> range. Expect Chinese tires at that price, but they are actually
> holding up well in the commercial use.


Go to Simple Tire's commercial page, https://simpletire.com/heavy-truck.

BTW, the tire prices on their site change from day to day, at least for
commercial tires (215/75R-17.5).

Simple Tire has a pre-Summer sale going on now, but I think it's only for
passenger tires.

https://simpletire.com/tire-deals?utm_campaign=Deals_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9rJquDy3gAwcHP4G3izbYg6F7VbIzMNTQYufZz2zSBUIIb7VKKYR0atEHC1DRWcOPtQPLdtjMhtf3SbDmMstiEVPoboQ&_hsmi=72386788_content=72386788_source=hs_email=05eeb8aa-ce3b-449a-9fe2-cc515f8dc392|1238cd2b-713c-4b2b-b6b2-5bc7481f2539

They also have a discount for military, if that applies.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Ooooopsie

I recall little about it other than the folks getting fired up to go there, and 
that they served the Löwenbrau in massive clear glass mugs. I could barely lift 
one.

-D


> On May 6, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh yeah, Lum's.  Sunday evening supper when the dorm didn't feed us.  The 
> dogs were actually pretty good, big fatties, when I used to eat that stuff, 
> and their fries were really good.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/6/19 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> When we moved to Indianapolis in 1969 the big deal was “Lum’s” restaurant 
>> with hot dogs boiled in beer and Lowenbrau on tap. My folks loved that place.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember in college going to the Miller? brewery in Milwaukee where they 
>>> also brewed Lowbrau.  We did the tour and got 2 free beers, which they 
>>> tried to give us Miller? (or whatever the brewery was) but I poked around 
>>> in the cooler and they had some Lowbraus in the back so I grabbed a bunch 
>>> of those for the group. The guy in the "hospitality" room got all bent 
>>> about that, and discussions ensued, but he ended up conceding us the 
>>> Lowbraus.  I don't know why it made any difference to him, they brewed 
>>> loads of the stuff. At the time this was Very Special and we thought we 
>>> were living large, but now it is just another crap beer.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 5/5/19 9:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 I remember drinking Lowenbrau, which I used to love.  It tasted funny.
 This was just after they switched production over to the USA. Or maybe it
 was Carlsberg??
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

2019-05-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

Boring color for that vintage of car and automatic tranny. Two more hits!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan asks:
> 
>> I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would 
>> that be offensive?
> 
> Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make sure 
> it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy it, and 
> cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it has no 
> acceleration. 
> 
>> I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable 
>> car to flip on BaT. 
> 
> There. I fixed it. 
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

Yeah, it is. Not the deeper cream color that I prefer, but the really bland, 
almost white, light beige or whatever it is.

But now I’ve got another notch on the automotive bedpost - this is the first 
240D I’ve ever driven, and Mother of G-d, is it SLOW…..

-D


> On May 6, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Boring color for that vintage of car and automatic tranny. Two more hits!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan asks:
>> 
>>> I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would 
>>> that be offensive?
>> 
>> Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make 
>> sure it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy 
>> it, and cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it 
>> has no acceleration. 
>> 
>>> I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable 
>>> car to flip on BaT. 
>> 
>> There. I fixed it. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

same for lotsa states.  IL vs forgotonia comes to mind.   WA, CA, (ok, 
maybe there are 203 populated areas there, but the vast part of the 
state has no say.) etc.   KC and lawrence vs the rest of KS.   DM and 
Awa City vs the rest of the state in Awa...


Craig via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 12:01 PM:

On Mon, 6 May 2019 16:05:23 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:


That said out where I live is much more conservative than you would
expect if you'd only experienced Boston or Amherst... -Curt

So Massachussetts is like Oregon, where one densely populated area
overrides the entire rest of the state?


Craig





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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

That’s what prompted my comments…

I never said they were good, I just said their only real presence in the 
enterprise market was video production.

I had a stockpile of brand new, still sealed in the ESD package Hitachi drives 
for the Xserve I bought from a hardware liquidator when I lived in SFO. I think 
I paid about $10/each for a box full of 400GB hard drives with the special 
sauce firmware for the Xserve RAID. The seller had no idea what they were, I 
think they thought they were SCSI drives for the older Macs.

I shipped them back to FL with the idea that I would use them in my RAID at 
home until I saw what people were getting for them in the secondary market. As 
people with Xserve RAIDs had drives die off and they discovered that Apple was 
no longer sourcing them from Hitachi with the proprietary firmware, the price 
of these shot up. I think I sold them off somewhere in the range of $100/$200 
each on eBay.

Thanks, Steve!

-D

> On May 6, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Remembering I work in video production. ;)
> 
> Apple's storage option was pitiful. We trounced them handily. Years ago I got 
> to visit the set of "Saturday Night Live" and see the 30 year archive (must 
> be 40 year now) of the show which was all on Xserve RAID. I'll give Apple 
> that they were beautiful drives, brush aluminum, blue lights, gorgeous. The 
> techs HATED them, they were hard to setup, expensive and finicky.
> 
> Management had had enough of them and so we sat down and went through the 
> price book to set them up with Avid storage. They already had a bunch of our 
> stuff at NBC News downstairs, this story is all in 30 Rock. Anyway I figure 
> how much storage they need, how many boxes, what cables, etc and give all the 
> part numbers along with MSRP which is the only number I know as I'm a 
> trainer, not a sales droid. They seem happy so I finish my class and go on my 
> way.
> 
> Unbeknownst to me they take the list I've written up to their sales droid 
> with a "We'd like this please." and pay MSRP just as I listed it during a 
> time when NBC got a 50% discount right off the top. This is something like a 
> $500,000 sale.
> About a year later I've worked a trade show (well, NAB is kind of THE trade 
> show in this industry.) After work I'm in a bar relaxing when somebody 
> happens to mention my name, a guy I don't know whips around "You're Curt 
> Raymond?" turns out he's the sales droid from the deal. He's super excited "I 
> bought a boat with the commission off that deal!" He got me stinking drunk 
> which made for a weird last day at the show...
> 
> So anyway I guess I should thank Apple for that one. ;)
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Monday, May 6, 2019, 12:37:35 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> That’s when you got an Xserve.
> 
> I used to have two G5 Xserves and a 14TB Xserve RAID in a rack in my garage. 
> I had to retire them mainly due to energy consumption and heat. That Xserve 
> RAID was the bomb, though.
> 
> Apple exited the enterprise market years ago, which is just as well. They 
> never seemed to be fully committed except for your industry. Outside of video 
> production they were pretty much nonexistent.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> > On May 6, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Unless you have to put one in a rack. I thought Apple's "just cut the arms 
> > off" was the WORST answer ever. They made it clear that day that they 
> > weren't serious about the Professional market. The trashcan (or as the 
> > Brits say "Dustbin") Mac has made it even more clear.
> > 
> > -Curt
> > 
> > On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 10:28:19 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Cheese graters ROCK!
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > > On May 5, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> > > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > 
> > > _Every_ Mac we're using, except Dad's that I inherited, is an older one 
> > > that would
> > > be _useless_ today except that the RAM and disk have been significantly 
> > > upgraded
> > > from the as-sold configuration.  They're all 11-20 years old.
> > > 
> > > In fairness, CPU, RAM and disk needs have leveled off somewhat.  I expect 
> > > that
> > > Dad's Macbook Pro will provide long and useful service, although probably 
> > > not
> > > 20 years' worth.  Had I not inherited it, I would probably have had to go 
> > > buy one
> > > for my new job.  It is truly a nice machine.  But, it had better be for 
> > > the price!
> > > 
> > > We're using four of the cheese graters (one a G5 quad for some old 
> > > games), a G4,
> > > and four Macbook Pros.  There's a 10yo Mini in reserve should the newest 
> > > laptop
> > > have issues.  It's capable of running the same software that I need.  I'm 
> > > not sure if
> > > it was ever upgraded or not, I only got it recently, and have powered it 
> > > on

Re: [MBZ] Ooooopsie

Oh yeah, Lum's.  Sunday evening supper when the dorm didn't feed us.  
The dogs were actually pretty good, big fatties, when I used to eat that 
stuff, and their fries were really good.


--FT

On 5/6/19 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

When we moved to Indianapolis in 1969 the big deal was “Lum’s” restaurant with 
hot dogs boiled in beer and Lowenbrau on tap. My folks loved that place.

-D


On May 6, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I remember in college going to the Miller? brewery in Milwaukee where they also brewed 
Lowbrau.  We did the tour and got 2 free beers, which they tried to give us Miller? (or 
whatever the brewery was) but I poked around in the cooler and they had some Lowbraus in 
the back so I grabbed a bunch of those for the group. The guy in the 
"hospitality" room got all bent about that, and discussions ensued, but he 
ended up conceding us the Lowbraus.  I don't know why it made any difference to him, they 
brewed loads of the stuff. At the time this was Very Special and we thought we were 
living large, but now it is just another crap beer.

--FT

On 5/5/19 9:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I remember drinking Lowenbrau, which I used to love.  It tasted funny.
This was just after they switched production over to the USA. Or maybe it
was Carlsberg??

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cleaning Mac keyboard

Yeah it is an aluminum extended keyboard with the numeric pad and nav 
pad.  I should try it in another machine and see if it works on one of 
those, if it doesn't I might hose it down with contact cleaner and see 
if it cleans it up enought to work.


--FT

On 5/6/19 12:19 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Depends on which one it is. The newest keyboards are un-fixable. Is it 
one of the metal frame ones?


-Curt

On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 12:23:47 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:



This morning my key board was not working right. Some of the keys 
weren’t registering. The computer was acting funky in some other ways 
too but not sure that had anything to do with the keyboard as I 
plugged in another one and that’s working ok.


So can I give it a drenching with some contact cleaner around the 
keys?  Or some other process? Dishwasher???  What’s the best way to 
try to get it working right, or might it be the electronics have gone 
wonky?


--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

You could start at 18 then go to $2k, would probably be a nice deal with 
a bit of work as it is in good condition.


Slam it, install a kicker in the trunk, and put a stack through the hood 
and sell it to the goobers on FB.


--FT

On 5/6/19 1:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Dan asks:


I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would that 
be offensive?

Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make sure 
it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy it, and 
cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it has no 
acceleration.


I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable car 
to flip on BaT.

There. I fixed it.

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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

 Pretty much like the country in that regard...
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 1:02:47 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 6 May 2019 16:05:23 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That said out where I live is much more conservative than you would
> expect if you'd only experienced Boston or Amherst... -Curt

So Massachussetts is like Oregon, where one densely populated area
overrides the entire rest of the state?


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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

Heh. This is not a BAT flip car. It’s not that good. 212k on the clock, I think 
it would need a lot more freshening to even remotely resemble a BAT flip.

The seller is not a FB person, so I doubt very much it would end up there. He 
was bemoaning the travails of just dealing with the CL garbage of “sending a 
check” and “could you hold it for me” and “I’ll give you $1,000 for it”. I’m 
the only person who has followed through on their promise to come look at it in 
over three weeks of being on CL, so I’ve immediately established my cred.

I’ll play the “Mercedes Martha Stewart” card when I respond with a link to my 
web site so he can see how well I care for my cars. This dovetails right into 
the closing line in the CL ad: “Just looking for a new home for it.”  If that 
doesn’t clinch the deal I’ll move on.

Tomorrow or Wednesday. I don’ t want to appear too eager.

-D

> On May 6, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan asks:
> 
>> I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would 
>> that be offensive?
> 
> Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make sure 
> it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy it, and 
> cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it has no 
> acceleration. 
> 
>> I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable 
>> car to flip on BaT. 
> 
> There. I fixed it. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

That's a good story!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:58 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Remembering I work in video production. ;)
> Apple's storage option was pitiful. We trounced them handily. Years ago I
> got to visit the set of "Saturday Night Live" and see the 30 year archive
> (must be 40 year now) of the show which was all on Xserve RAID. I'll give
> Apple that they were beautiful drives, brush aluminum, blue lights,
> gorgeous. The techs HATED them, they were hard to setup, expensive and
> finicky.
> Management had had enough of them and so we sat down and went through the
> price book to set them up with Avid storage. They already had a bunch of
> our stuff at NBC News downstairs, this story is all in 30 Rock. Anyway I
> figure how much storage they need, how many boxes, what cables, etc and
> give all the part numbers along with MSRP which is the only number I know
> as I'm a trainer, not a sales droid. They seem happy so I finish my class
> and go on my way.
> Unbeknownst to me they take the list I've written up to their sales droid
> with a "We'd like this please." and pay MSRP just as I listed it during a
> time when NBC got a 50% discount right off the top. This is something like
> a $500,000 sale.About a year later I've worked a trade show (well, NAB is
> kind of THE trade show in this industry.) After work I'm in a bar relaxing
> when somebody happens to mention my name, a guy I don't know whips around
> "You're Curt Raymond?" turns out he's the sales droid from the deal. He's
> super excited "I bought a boat with the commission off that deal!" He got
> me stinking drunk which made for a weird last day at the show...
> So anyway I guess I should thank Apple for that one. ;)
> -Curt
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hmmm...

2019-05-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Dan asks:

>I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would 
>that be offensive?

Not at all. I would think it can be had for that, or slightly more. Make sure 
it doesn't end up posted on the Facebook 123 page. Somebody will buy it, and 
cut a hole in the hood, and put mud tires on it, then complain it has no 
acceleration. 

>I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice reliable car 
>to flip on BaT. 

There. I fixed it. 

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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

On Mon, 6 May 2019 16:05:23 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That said out where I live is much more conservative than you would
> expect if you'd only experienced Boston or Amherst... -Curt

So Massachussetts is like Oregon, where one densely populated area
overrides the entire rest of the state?


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Re: [MBZ] Ooooopsie

 I am very glad to have come up in the age of craft beer. I wouldn't have been 
able to handle generic suds, I'd probably have been a teetotaler.
-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 12:44:56 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 When we moved to Indianapolis in 1969 the big deal was “Lum’s” restaurant with 
hot dogs boiled in beer and Lowenbrau on tap. My folks loved that place.

-D

> On May 6, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember in college going to the Miller? brewery in Milwaukee where they 
> also brewed Lowbrau.  We did the tour and got 2 free beers, which they tried 
> to give us Miller? (or whatever the brewery was) but I poked around in the 
> cooler and they had some Lowbraus in the back so I grabbed a bunch of those 
> for the group. The guy in the "hospitality" room got all bent about that, and 
> discussions ensued, but he ended up conceding us the Lowbraus.  I don't know 
> why it made any difference to him, they brewed loads of the stuff. At the 
> time this was Very Special and we thought we were living large, but now it is 
> just another crap beer.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/5/19 9:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I remember drinking Lowenbrau, which I used to love.  It tasted funny.
>> This was just after they switched production over to the USA. Or maybe it
>> was Carlsberg??
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

 Remembering I work in video production. ;)
Apple's storage option was pitiful. We trounced them handily. Years ago I got 
to visit the set of "Saturday Night Live" and see the 30 year archive (must be 
40 year now) of the show which was all on Xserve RAID. I'll give Apple that 
they were beautiful drives, brush aluminum, blue lights, gorgeous. The techs 
HATED them, they were hard to setup, expensive and finicky.
Management had had enough of them and so we sat down and went through the price 
book to set them up with Avid storage. They already had a bunch of our stuff at 
NBC News downstairs, this story is all in 30 Rock. Anyway I figure how much 
storage they need, how many boxes, what cables, etc and give all the part 
numbers along with MSRP which is the only number I know as I'm a trainer, not a 
sales droid. They seem happy so I finish my class and go on my way.
Unbeknownst to me they take the list I've written up to their sales droid with 
a "We'd like this please." and pay MSRP just as I listed it during a time when 
NBC got a 50% discount right off the top. This is something like a $500,000 
sale.About a year later I've worked a trade show (well, NAB is kind of THE 
trade show in this industry.) After work I'm in a bar relaxing when somebody 
happens to mention my name, a guy I don't know whips around "You're Curt 
Raymond?" turns out he's the sales droid from the deal. He's super excited "I 
bought a boat with the commission off that deal!" He got me stinking drunk 
which made for a weird last day at the show...
So anyway I guess I should thank Apple for that one. ;)
-Curt


On Monday, May 6, 2019, 12:37:35 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 That’s when you got an Xserve.

I used to have two G5 Xserves and a 14TB Xserve RAID in a rack in my garage. I 
had to retire them mainly due to energy consumption and heat. That Xserve RAID 
was the bomb, though.

Apple exited the enterprise market years ago, which is just as well. They never 
seemed to be fully committed except for your industry. Outside of video 
production they were pretty much nonexistent.

-D



> On May 6, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Unless you have to put one in a rack. I thought Apple's "just cut the arms 
> off" was the WORST answer ever. They made it clear that day that they weren't 
> serious about the Professional market. The trashcan (or as the Brits say 
> "Dustbin") Mac has made it even more clear.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 10:28:19 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cheese graters ROCK!
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On May 5, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> > 
> > _Every_ Mac we're using, except Dad's that I inherited, is an older one 
> > that would
> > be _useless_ today except that the RAM and disk have been significantly 
> > upgraded
> > from the as-sold configuration.  They're all 11-20 years old.
> > 
> > In fairness, CPU, RAM and disk needs have leveled off somewhat.  I expect 
> > that
> > Dad's Macbook Pro will provide long and useful service, although probably 
> > not
> > 20 years' worth.  Had I not inherited it, I would probably have had to go 
> > buy one
> > for my new job.  It is truly a nice machine.  But, it had better be for the 
> > price!
> > 
> > We're using four of the cheese graters (one a G5 quad for some old games), 
> > a G4,
> > and four Macbook Pros.  There's a 10yo Mini in reserve should the newest 
> > laptop
> > have issues.  It's capable of running the same software that I need.  I'm 
> > not sure if
> > it was ever upgraded or not, I only got it recently, and have powered it on 
> > twice.
> > 
> > I plan to replace the G4 with a 2014 Mini, if I can find one at a good 
> > price.  Quieter,
> > and lower power.  The G4 is no longer hosting the RAID array for backups, 
> > which
> > have been moved to a cheese grater, and is only doing web service now that 
> > its
> > mail relay duties (for my retired G3) are not needed.  The Mini is the only 
> > non-laptop
> > that Apple ever made that is lower-power than the G4, and the 2014 Mini is 
> > the
> > lowest-power one of the bunch.  That's a 24x7 expense, our only one, which 
> > is
> > why I'm holding out for the 'best' choice there.
> > 
> > -- Jim
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[MBZ] Hmmm...

Went to look at this car this morning:

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html

The good:

Super, super solid. I found one little area of rust inside the rear corner of 
the driver’s door. Otherwise, not a spec on it.
Runs good and strong
All exterior rubber has been refreshed sometime in recent history
New vacuum pump
Records from both owners back to original purchase at World Wide Motors in 
Indianapolis!

The not so good:
Vacuum system goobered up. Car doesn’t shift properly
As above, central locking has been disconnected
Interior is OK
Clear UV film on inside of all windows is crazing
Some blowby, but not bad
Exterior finish is chalky, but definitely recoverable
Rubber strip on back bumper loose, and we all know what a PITA those are!
AC is non-functional, but has a less than year old compressor on it. Says it’s 
blowing air but no longer cold - original AC hoses, refrigerant leaking 
through, no doubt

Belongs to the seller’s college age daughter who bought it four years ago 
thinking having a “classic” car would be cool. She recently purchased a 2018 
Honda Civic, so that’s apparently no longer the case. It’s got really good 
bones but needs a lot of Martha’ing, but no repairs to speak of that I can see, 
short of getting the vacuum system sorted and a new set of vacuum valve levers 
on the valve cover (yes, they’re worn away to nothing!)

They started listing it at $3k, are now down to $2750. Daughter graduates from 
college in a week or two (it’s finals week now) and is heading to graduate 
school. Seller (Dad) clearly has plenty of money but has no interest in the car 
himself, as he’s a VW guy. He knows nothing about it and has only driven it a 
couple of times.

I spent an hour going over the car in detail and pointing everything out to 
Dad, who seemed mildly interested from a car guy point of view.

I’m thinking I should sit on it for a few days and offer them $1800. Would that 
be offensive?  I could see putting maybe $500 into this, max, and having a nice 
reliable backup car for the fleet.

Hmmm.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

And they’re a reminder of your age, too… I knew I had done it the day after. 
Ugh. Another reason why I’m glad this is about it for major under the car heavy 
duty work…I wish my son would hurry up and buy some property like he’s planning 
to so I can build a proper shop wth a lift.

-D


> On May 6, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Impressive work. These brute force under the car jobs are not for the faint 
> of heart!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And it’s a real testament to the design and materials to think that it’s 
>> been in service for 53 years and nearly everything is intact. I haven’t had 
>> it up to highway speeds yet, but I’m really interested to see how it handles 
>> now with all new rubber bits in the rear axle. I’ve got to replace the swing 
>> arm bushings yet, but that’s pretty much it for all of the chassis rubber 
>> parts once I’m done.
>> 
>> From there I’ve got some interior stuff to do, replacing the door cards, and 
>> then I’m pretty much done as far as restoration work.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Strong work. The engineering and mechanical design on these cars is quite 
>>> impressive. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 5, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!
 
 http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Ooooopsie

When we moved to Indianapolis in 1969 the big deal was “Lum’s” restaurant with 
hot dogs boiled in beer and Lowenbrau on tap. My folks loved that place.

-D

> On May 6, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember in college going to the Miller? brewery in Milwaukee where they 
> also brewed Lowbrau.  We did the tour and got 2 free beers, which they tried 
> to give us Miller? (or whatever the brewery was) but I poked around in the 
> cooler and they had some Lowbraus in the back so I grabbed a bunch of those 
> for the group. The guy in the "hospitality" room got all bent about that, and 
> discussions ensued, but he ended up conceding us the Lowbraus.  I don't know 
> why it made any difference to him, they brewed loads of the stuff. At the 
> time this was Very Special and we thought we were living large, but now it is 
> just another crap beer.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/5/19 9:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I remember drinking Lowenbrau, which I used to love.  It tasted funny.
>> This was just after they switched production over to the USA. Or maybe it
>> was Carlsberg??
> 
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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

Hard rule on commercial size tires is 5 year life, then replace. So, it
would have to have tires. Recaps could work on rears, but steer tires, new
only. You do NOT want a front steer tire failure.

Should be able to get a set of 11Rx22.5 recaps for the rears in the
$125-$150 range,each, New steer tires, if you shop hard in the $200 each
range. Expect Chinese tires at that price, but they are actually holding up
well in the commercial use.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 6:59 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> <150k miles: not even broke in yet.   Another $1400 will put new tars on
> it.   $200 for battery(s)
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 8:49 AM:
> > Yes, you need that.  Do go take a look, $1400 is pretty cheap for a lot
> of
> > truck.  Use it as transporter to haul your SL to the track.
> >
> > If nothing else, Kaleb will be green with envy.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

That’s when you got an Xserve.

I used to have two G5 Xserves and a 14TB Xserve RAID in a rack in my garage. I 
had to retire them mainly due to energy consumption and heat. That Xserve RAID 
was the bomb, though.

Apple exited the enterprise market years ago, which is just as well. They never 
seemed to be fully committed except for your industry. Outside of video 
production they were pretty much nonexistent.

-D



> On May 6, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Unless you have to put one in a rack. I thought Apple's "just cut the arms 
> off" was the WORST answer ever. They made it clear that day that they weren't 
> serious about the Professional market. The trashcan (or as the Brits say 
> "Dustbin") Mac has made it even more clear.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 10:28:19 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cheese graters ROCK!
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On May 5, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> > 
> > _Every_ Mac we're using, except Dad's that I inherited, is an older one 
> > that would
> > be _useless_ today except that the RAM and disk have been significantly 
> > upgraded
> > from the as-sold configuration.  They're all 11-20 years old.
> > 
> > In fairness, CPU, RAM and disk needs have leveled off somewhat.  I expect 
> > that
> > Dad's Macbook Pro will provide long and useful service, although probably 
> > not
> > 20 years' worth.  Had I not inherited it, I would probably have had to go 
> > buy one
> > for my new job.  It is truly a nice machine.  But, it had better be for the 
> > price!
> > 
> > We're using four of the cheese graters (one a G5 quad for some old games), 
> > a G4,
> > and four Macbook Pros.  There's a 10yo Mini in reserve should the newest 
> > laptop
> > have issues.  It's capable of running the same software that I need.  I'm 
> > not sure if
> > it was ever upgraded or not, I only got it recently, and have powered it on 
> > twice.
> > 
> > I plan to replace the G4 with a 2014 Mini, if I can find one at a good 
> > price.  Quieter,
> > and lower power.  The G4 is no longer hosting the RAID array for backups, 
> > which
> > have been moved to a cheese grater, and is only doing web service now that 
> > its
> > mail relay duties (for my retired G3) are not needed.  The Mini is the only 
> > non-laptop
> > that Apple ever made that is lower-power than the G4, and the 2014 Mini is 
> > the
> > lowest-power one of the bunch.  That's a 24x7 expense, our only one, which 
> > is
> > why I'm holding out for the 'best' choice there.
> > 
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cleaning Mac keyboard

 Depends on which one it is. The newest keyboards are un-fixable. Is it one of 
the metal frame ones?
-Curt

On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 12:23:47 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 This morning my key board was not working right. Some of the keys weren’t 
registering. The computer was acting funky in some other ways too but not sure 
that had anything to do with the keyboard as I plugged in another one and 
that’s working ok. 

So can I give it a drenching with some contact cleaner around the keys?  Or 
some other process?  Dishwasher???  What’s the best way to try to get it 
working right, or might it be the electronics have gone wonky?

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

 Unless you have to put one in a rack. I thought Apple's "just cut the arms 
off" was the WORST answer ever. They made it clear that day that they weren't 
serious about the Professional market. The trashcan (or as the Brits say 
"Dustbin") Mac has made it even more clear.
-Curt

On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 10:28:19 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Cheese graters ROCK!

-D


> On May 5, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> _Every_ Mac we're using, except Dad's that I inherited, is an older one that 
> would
> be _useless_ today except that the RAM and disk have been significantly 
> upgraded
> from the as-sold configuration.  They're all 11-20 years old.
> 
> In fairness, CPU, RAM and disk needs have leveled off somewhat.  I expect that
> Dad's Macbook Pro will provide long and useful service, although probably not
> 20 years' worth.  Had I not inherited it, I would probably have had to go buy 
> one
> for my new job.  It is truly a nice machine.  But, it had better be for the 
> price!
> 
> We're using four of the cheese graters (one a G5 quad for some old games), a 
> G4,
> and four Macbook Pros.  There's a 10yo Mini in reserve should the newest 
> laptop
> have issues.  It's capable of running the same software that I need.  I'm not 
> sure if
> it was ever upgraded or not, I only got it recently, and have powered it on 
> twice.
> 
> I plan to replace the G4 with a 2014 Mini, if I can find one at a good price. 
>  Quieter,
> and lower power.  The G4 is no longer hosting the RAID array for backups, 
> which
> have been moved to a cheese grater, and is only doing web service now that its
> mail relay duties (for my retired G3) are not needed.  The Mini is the only 
> non-laptop
> that Apple ever made that is lower-power than the G4, and the 2014 Mini is the
> lowest-power one of the bunch.  That's a 24x7 expense, our only one, which is
> why I'm holding out for the 'best' choice there.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

 The cylinder Mac Pro is a great home computer thats way overpriced. I have 
one I scored for a song, its very fast, very small (about the size of 3 rolls 
of duct tape stacked) and very quiet. I'd never pay full price for one but I'm 
glad to have mine.
My employer got me one of the new touchbar Macbook Pros, its not as good as the 
retina Macbook it replaced. Its literally the worst keyboard I've ever used. I 
thought I'd forgotten how to type when I first got it. Almost 2 years in I've 
gotten used to it but its still terrible. I was using a 2010 Macbook in 
California last week as I'd forgotten the dongle to give this stupid thing any 
ports and I remarked how good the keyboard on that is.Battery life on the new 
one is okay but its because it throttles the computer down.This is the first 
laptop I've ever had that wasn't as good as its predecessor. If that one hadn't 
thrown a rod (complete logic board failure) I'd still be using it.
-Curt

On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 9:19:39 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Deere and MB have gone over the cliff.   all they make is throwaway 
lektronic toys, and VERY expensive ones at that.   I can buy all the 
throwaway lektronik toys I want at the dollar store, but I don't.

Apfel:   Well, I would have bought a new computer a month or two ago, 
but I found out that they claim you can't even upgrade the memory or the 
hard drive.  That did it for me.   I bought another 8 yr old macbook 
pro, and immediately changed the memory and hard drive.

I would own an old "mac pro."  I will not own one of the cylinder things.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/5/19 5:51 AM:
> Both Deere and Apple are lobbying the states currently attempting to pass 
> “DIY" laws. Deere is especially adept at doing this, I think they torpedoed a 
> bill in Nebraska last year for this. The claim is that “people will die!!!” 
> should they have access to the service literature and tools.
>
> I think MA has a bill currently in their legislature for this as does one 
> other state.
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] you too could be a female realtor of a certain age

 You didn't watch/read about the Camel Trophy Challenge back in the '90s did 
you? They took largely stock (I think the only add on was a snorkel) Land Rover 
Discoverys across places with no roads in lands like Africa and South/Central 
America. They built barges and floated them, they built bridges to suspend 
them, they drove them with water up over the windshield, the trips were amazing 
and the things they put those trucks through astonishing. The Discovery has 
real offroad cred...
-Curt

On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 9:11:27 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 DING DING DING   We have a winner!   OK Don
'
I figgered some of you would "get it."

I've called the wussy ones that since they came out.  A land rover is an 
ugly, rectangular, utilitarian, topless or ragtop jeep like vehicle. The 
glitzy shiny enclosed vehicles driven by female real estate agents are 
NOT land rovers, so I've called them Lan Drovers for decades.

OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 5/5/19 12:16 AM:
> Move the D and Land Rover becomes LAN Drover - someone has to keep the
> packets in line and moving in the right direction ...
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:02 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>> Keeps them doggies moving
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
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>>> On May 4, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 4 May 2019 09:34:28 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 drives a Lan Drover.    (used to prod local area networks along)
>>> Huh?
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla & Mercedes

 The MA bill is a followup to a 2012 measure that passed with overwhelming 
support. This time they (we) are demanding access to the wireless connection 
most manufacturers have moved to for connecting to the computer(s) in the 
vehicle.
This isn't terribly surprising in a state that threw tea into the harbor 
although it is a bit interesting for a very liberal state where not a ton of 
peoples work on their own cars.
That said out where I live is much more conservative than you would expect if 
you'd only experienced Boston or Amherst...
-Curt

On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 6:52:38 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Both Deere and Apple are lobbying the states currently attempting to pass 
“DIY" laws. Deere is especially adept at doing this, I think they torpedoed a 
bill in Nebraska last year for this. The claim is that “people will die!!!” 
should they have access to the service literature and tools.

I think MA has a bill currently in their legislature for this as does one other 
state.

-D



> On May 5, 2019, at 4:05 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dad's 'new' Deere tractor is a turbodiesel, with a 'smooth' engine design that
> has all the fuel passages inside the block somehow.  When it failed, it 
> leaked fuel
> _inside_ the crankcase, where it could not be seen but certainly could do 
> harm.
> Filled the crankcase with fuel.
> 
> The loaner tractor was simpler, and stronger.  And bigger.  Dad regretted 
> buying
> the one he did.  My suspicion is that it's all getting worse.  Deere is also 
> one of
> the ones claiming that you have no right to fix your own gear.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] you too could be a female realtor of a certain age

On Sun, 5 May 2019 00:16:39 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
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> Move the D and Land Rover becomes LAN Drover - someone has to keep the
> packets in line and moving in the right direction ...

Boy, was I slow!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

<150k miles: not even broke in yet.   Another $1400 will put new tars on 
it.   $200 for battery(s)


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/6/19 8:49 AM:

Yes, you need that.  Do go take a look, $1400 is pretty cheap for a lot of
truck.  Use it as transporter to haul your SL to the track.

If nothing else, Kaleb will be green with envy.
-
Max
Charleston SC





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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

2019-05-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

No picture at all is pretty telling, in my book.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] hmmmm

Yes, you need that.  Do go take a look, $1400 is pretty cheap for a lot of
truck.  Use it as transporter to haul your SL to the track.

If nothing else, Kaleb will be green with envy.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm going to be moving soon... I might swing by and take a look at this
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
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> Not sure how much I would trust 20yo tires for anything
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[MBZ] how insane would I have to be?


Assuming of course I had $20k to drop...

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-2005-mercedes-benz-cl/6882477992.html

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[MBZ] hmmmm