Re: [MBZ] Back in the saddle!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I don't think it would take too many parts sold on the bay of fleas to pay
for an ISP ---

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 8:13 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
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> If he brings a big enough trailer he can haul the SD and a plethora of
> parts back with him.  And he can leave a bag of cash for me
>
> clay
> > On May 15, 2019, at 4:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like Kaleb needs to head up your way ...
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:04 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Aw come on!  You mean none of you  guys saw Diesel Tank and thought of 
an army tank with a Diesel engine?   Nobody got a smile out of my list 
of stuff to put in your tank?   What a bunch o sad sacks!


As for me, 48 yrs and nothing but #2, a little #1 when it is cold, and 
once it was so bad I resorted to a little benzin to counter the gelling. 
(and Biocide!for summer storage.)


Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote on 5/15/19 6:58 PM:

Kalebs trying to make fun of the W123 group on Facebook after my answer to
that question was I’ve used nothing for the last 20 years and never had an
issue.

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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 My Jetta was originally rated for 150hp, probably more like 145 after the 
recall. Its been averaging right on 50mpg over the last 8,000 miles. Last tank 
was only 48mpg but had a bunch of around town driving...
-Curt

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> On May 15, 2019 at 4:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I want to get 50mpg and more power out of my 240D

153hp when this pic was taken. 
630 miles isn't bad for a car with a 13.7 gallon 
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Re: [MBZ] Back in the saddle!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

If he brings a big enough trailer he can haul the SD and a plethora of parts 
back with him.  And he can leave a bag of cash for me

clay
> On May 15, 2019, at 4:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like Kaleb needs to head up your way ...
> 
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:04 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] MANUAL 240D on BAT

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Lighter shades if brown with some yellow aka diarrhea brown?

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> On May 15, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I am not opposed to certain lighter shades of brown, that incorporate some 
> yellow, such as the so-called "golden brown".  I don't care for tobacco 
> brown.  Anthracite gray looks bronzed-y brown in the sun, which I rather like.
> 
>> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:26 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Wait a minute now...Andrew is compelled by a brown car??!!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On May 14, 2019, at 10:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On May 14, 2019 at 2:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Not sure of the color name. I guess this would be coded on the data 
>> >> plate? 
>> > 
>> > Yep.
>> > https://www.automotivetouchup.com/paint-codes/mercedes-benz.htm
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Names/swatches of some of the colors here:
>> > https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/colour_swatch_mercedes_1981
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Ding ding ding. This question seems to come up often there and the fools always 
insist you must run an additive. 

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> On May 15, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kalebs trying to make fun of the W123 group on Facebook after my answer to
> that question was I’ve used nothing for the last 20 years and never had an
> issue.
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What are you trying to accomplish?
>> 
>> To add lubricity, I use RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst. I can’t say enough
>> good things about this, and have used it in cars I put as many as 200k on
>> the clock.
>> 
>> I’ve also used Biobor (?) as an algaecide, more for prevention that as a
>> cure.
>> 
>> There are others out there, but the question is more a matter of what
>> you’re trying to accomplish.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fuel tank in car
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?
 
 -D
 
> On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> What additive should I add to my diesel tank?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] They will go 1/2 million

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Too close to me as well!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On May 15, 2019 5:45:43 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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>https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/301136987454187/
>
>Not far from me.
>Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Yabbut It Says It's Worth $20k!!!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

"I JUST DONT HAVE THE MONEY OR TIME TO FINISH THIS GREAT PROJECT SO MY LOSS IS 
YOUR TREASURE. "

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>https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-rare-88-mercedes-300ce/6876853300.html
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>I simply have no words.
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Kalebs trying to make fun of the W123 group on Facebook after my answer to
that question was I’ve used nothing for the last 20 years and never had an
issue.

:)



On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> What are you trying to accomplish?
>
> To add lubricity, I use RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst. I can’t say enough
> good things about this, and have used it in cars I put as many as 200k on
> the clock.
>
> I’ve also used Biobor (?) as an algaecide, more for prevention that as a
> cure.
>
> There are others out there, but the question is more a matter of what
> you’re trying to accomplish.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 15, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Fuel tank in car
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What additive should I add to my diesel tank?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Kleb needs to transplant a Pious system run by the 240 into his car. 50mpg on 
free veggie oil!

--FT
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> On May 15, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2019 at 4:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I want to get 50mpg and more power out of my 240D
> 
> 153hp when this pic was taken. 
> 630 miles isn't bad for a car with a 13.7 gallon tank.
> <50mpg.jpg>
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Re: [MBZ] W116.120 throttle linkage tool A1800720393 diameter

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Unfortunately it's small, and I don't remember where I put it. 
10-11mm seems like a reasonable guess. 
It was very cheap in 2002, glad to know it's still cheap and available. 
I bought mine from Rusty. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Back in the saddle!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Sounds like Kaleb needs to head up your way ...

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:04 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I no longer have constant interweb access and am using hotspot from my
> phone, so not doing fleabay.  The list of Craig seems to be viable for
> now.  Were there a person with a truck, I would enjoy having all go to one
> buyer.  Last time I cleaned the cache, the guy took just about all I had on
> hand for $500.  Doing the lingering method of posting single items, I might
> have cleared a mid five figures, but I needed it gone!  Some of the things
> I needed to keep on hand for the SL walked out the door…
>
> which is how the current hoard was begun… then grew with the addition of
> the w126 cars.
>
> clay
>
> > On May 15, 2019, at 2:22 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Are you going to eBay our collection? Seems like a reasonable way to go
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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[MBZ] Subject: Re: A question for Jaime

[Rdeafboy via Mercedes]

Dan ..How many ounces  per tankful of that Redline Diesel catalyst stuff do you 
need ??...seems expensive with shipping
Bob
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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Camping issues

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

From my experiences with the dispossessed, they are possessed of a very violent 
nature and tend to exude many toxic products.  The needles accumulated in the 
streets and parks now give me the screaming jeebies.  I mistook a white pen and 
an orange ear plug sitting on a bedside table for a heroin needle.  Massive 
PTSD for me.  The feces and trash are just plain nasty, and seeing it every 
day, having to avoid stepping in these cesspools of disease, just wears on a 
person.

The real fun began with the nutjobs throwing rocks or becoming bellicose as I 
walked the streets downtown seattle.  One evening a hobo wrapped in a moving 
blanket wandered up to me and I was sure from the crazed look of the man that I 
might not see the sun rise again.  He was alternately violent and abject, 
flipping within seconds.  Followed me for ten minutes, getting all up in my 
face while spewing spittle and clawing at his body, as if for a weapon.  The 
few cops out paid this parade no attention at all, and when I was finally quit 
of the bum, the idiot 911 dame was of no assistance at all.  Made no attempt to 
send officers for me to file a report.  That was the weekend I figure I needed 
to take some time outside the lower 48 to get my head back straight.  

So, no, these are not kind folk down on their luck.  These are the viet cong 
with punji sticks and all manner of covert death agains civilization.



clay monroe

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> looking for didn't fall out.



> On May 15, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why do they say to avoid homeless camps?  Aren’t the people peaceable just 
> down on their luck?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On May 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.apnews.com/cd9e629443e848e1948d85f1c53b8a30
>> 
>> Napalm would clear it up quick.  
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> 
>>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what 
>>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
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Re: [MBZ] Back in the saddle!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I no longer have constant interweb access and am using hotspot from my phone, 
so not doing fleabay.  The list of Craig seems to be viable for now.  Were 
there a person with a truck, I would enjoy having all go to one buyer.  Last 
time I cleaned the cache, the guy took just about all I had on hand for $500.  
Doing the lingering method of posting single items, I might have cleared a mid 
five figures, but I needed it gone!  Some of the things I needed to keep on 
hand for the SL walked out the door…

which is how the current hoard was begun… then grew with the addition of the 
w126 cars.

clay 

> On May 15, 2019, at 2:22 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Depending on the size of the big gun, 88 or 105 shells, 50 cal, as many 
boxes as you can, tie sandbags all over the outside, full load of fuel 
and extra lube.   Food, water etc. Small arms, and an experienced tanker 
crew.


Watch the movie "Kelly's Heros" for further ideas.

Seriously, #2 Diesel, with a shot of algicide once a month in the summer.

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/15/19 1:04 PM:

What additive should I add to my diesel tank?





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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Camping issues

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Some are merely down on their luck. Others are so far down that they tend to 
bring the nearby normals down with them. Lots of low level crime that seriously 
degrades quality of life for neighbors. Some major crime too. And the "powers 
that be" are exacerbating the situation with their "help". This is NOT "who we 
are as a people"!

Greg  

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Subject: [MBZ] OT Re: Camping issues

Why do they say to avoid homeless camps?  Aren’t the people peaceable just down 
on their luck?

--FT
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> On May 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
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> 
> https://www.apnews.com/cd9e629443e848e1948d85f1c53b8a30
> 
> Napalm would clear it up quick.  
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> 
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>> looking for didn't fall out.
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Re: [MBZ] Uhhhhh I think I might have found Jaime's next purchase

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Because MBNA decreed we would all buy slushboxes.   The 4 speeds are 
generally cars ordered by the first owner, and patiently waited for.   
The marketing shifted from the WWII generation to the next generation 
about 1968.   The WWII generation grew up without auto  as a choice, and 
were quite happy shifting (as did I)  Their offspring, by and large were 
easily converted to slushboxes, except theones used to driving trucks 
and tractors.   I drove tractors since 9 and first drive a truck in the 
fields when I was 12.  Didn't drive a car until I got a learner's 
permit, and it was a shovey impala mit 3 gears and OD.   Other than 
driver's ed, I never drove a slushbox until 1995 when I got the 240D.


Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote on 5/15/19 10:01 AM:

Sigh why are they always automatic!?

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:22 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-240D-DIESEL-Auto/333196255068?hash=item4d940b5f5c:g:R1YAAOSwB9Jc2er5





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Re: [MBZ] They will go 1/2 million

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ROLLS MORE COAL THAN A FREIGHT TRAIN 

--FT
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> On May 15, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/301136987454187/
> 
> Not far from me.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
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[MBZ] OT Re: Camping issues

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Why do they say to avoid homeless camps?  Aren’t the people peaceable just down 
on their luck?

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> On May 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> https://www.apnews.com/cd9e629443e848e1948d85f1c53b8a30
> 
> Napalm would clear it up quick.  
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> 
>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
>> looking for didn't fall out.
> 
> 
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[MBZ] They will go 1/2 million

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Not far from me.
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Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Yabbut It Says It's Worth $20k!!!

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Slammin a six-oh man. AMG all the way bro!

Could be fun for like $700 if it runs and you wanted something to play with for 
a hack. Spray it flat black, dark tint on the glass, big thumper fo yo beats 
yo, fart can exhaust, ECU tune, get out the JCW catalog for some “custom” bits. 
Go drifting!

Wait, who’s wife wanted one?

--FT
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> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-rare-88-mercedes-300ce/6876853300.html
> 
> I simply have no words.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Back in the saddle!

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Are you going to eBay our collection? Seems like a reasonable way to go ---

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:06 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have chased how to hold onto all of my hoard and found no viable
> solution.  Best to cut my losses and move on.
>
> having said that, #1 boy just did cut his loses and let go of his w140
> 300SE for $300.  It had been sitting awaiting attention for two years and
> he was never going to get around to the head gasket and wiring harness, so
> may as well allow somebody who will do it have a big old car.
>
> clay monroe
>
> > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>
>
>
> > On May 14, 2019, at 8:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Well Clay,   It was a great idea while it lasted... ha.. So much for
> > brilliant advise, huh.
> >
> > Seems to the casual observer [myself] that a move of some sort is in your
> > future. Glad you avoided unwilling hold in psych ward. That would cut
> into
> > your parts hunting trips in a big way.
> > Grant
> > "I used to be rich. I spent most of it on fast cars, young women, and old
> > whiskey, the rest I squandered."
> >
> > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:19 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am having issues with the MacPro and mail.  It does not want to send
> >> mail using the iPhone as hotspot.  My interwebs were canceled when I
> left
> >> town.  Lucky for me, the macbook still does mail.
> >>
> >> ANYWAY.
> >> There is nothing within any reasonable distance that would serve as
> “work
> >> space” for working class person money.  I know a fellow who was in the
> same
> >> situation as I am about four years ago.  His work around was to cash
> part
> >> of his retirement and purchase a small town garage.  This way he gets to
> >> play with his mercedes, and the shop works on customer cars that may
> not be
> >> DBAG.  He has no children and a very understanding partner.  He drives
> 30
> >> miles from his suburban home to the garage in the next county.
> >>
> >> Seattle does not suffer from a dearth of clapped out properties.  There
> >> are all manner of brown fields and thrashed commercial structures.
> >> Property is stupid expensive and property owners think they will hit the
> >> lotto if they hold onto land.  A great amount if the spaces are in less
> >> than desirable areas, so they will be paying taxes for a while.
> >>
> >> My home has appreciated very much.  Last assessors notice was for more
> >> than 5x our purchase price.   With the added remodel costs, it is still
> >> over three times our investment in 25 years.
> >>
> >> SWMBA is on the path to off loading the house as soon as my stuff is
> >> removed.  She will then be removing the accumulation furniture and dross
> >> acquired while married.  Her home in AK has no space to take it.  I
> would
> >> like to have my tools.
> >>
> >> clay monroe
> >>
> >>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for
> what
> >> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 14, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Possibly. It’s not so much that there’s development, just that land
> >> prices in general have just gone crazy because of the influx of highly
> paid
> >> professionals into the area. I’m betting Clay could sell his house right
> >> now for many times over what he’s got in it.
> >>>
> >>> What the people I know there say is that as far as private housing you
> >> better have a big chunk of change ready to plop down on something when
> it
> >> comes on the market, and expect a bidding war. I can’t speak for
> commercial
> >> property, but in situations like this I would expect it to be much the
> same
> >> unless the area it’s in is really nasty.
> >>>
> >>> Let’s see what Clay says….he’ll be the one that knows for sure.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On May 14, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  On 14/05/2019 1:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > OK, let’s lay this out…
> >
> > I would certainly defer to Clay on the details, but having friends
> who
> >> both currently and formerly live(d) in the Sea-Tac region, it’s been
> >> described to me as anything property-wise within a reasonable distance
> (100
> >> miles?) to the area on the western slopes of the Cascades borders on
> >> unobtanium unless you’re grossing many hundreds of thousands of dollars
> >> annually.
> >
> > The expansion of Microsoft in the past as well as the influx of
> >> Amazonians in recent years has blown out the property market to stupid
> >> proportions.
> >
> > Many of these folks are bailing out and heading east to places like
> >> Idaho, driving markets like Boise into overdrive as well.
> >
> > -D
> >
> 
>  But, might there be temporary places he could 

[MBZ] Yabbut It Says It's Worth $20k!!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-rare-88-mercedes-300ce/6876853300.html

I simply have no words.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] W116.120 throttle linkage tool A1800720393 diameter

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If I only had to pay $2.00 for a jig or special tool like this, I would do it. 
If you use it more than once it’s probably paid for itself.

-D


> On May 15, 2019, at 3:15 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Does anyone happen to know the diameter of A1800720393, described as 
> "Adjusting sleeve" in the 30-300, "Adjusting throttle linkage". Looks like 
> it's about 1cm based on a picture on the ECS Tuning website.
> 
> I have carried out the throttle linkage adjustments without this fitting, and 
> understand that its function is to keep the "guide lever" (the thing that 
> pivots on top of the valve cover, where the throttle and transmission 
> linkages attach) at a specified distance during those base settings.
> 
> After adjustments the shift behaviour is much improved, but I'd love to be 
> able to actually follow the instructions. The adjustments I made totalled 
> only about one or two millimetres and, as usual, made a big difference.
> 
> Given that it's only a couple of dollars I may just go ahead and order it 
> when next I buy from MB, but it seems like something that could be improvised 
> given how infrequently it is used. Thanks for any ideas/help anyone could 
> render.
> 
> D.
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Re: [MBZ] Uhhhhh I think I might have found Jaime's next purchase

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I would seriously consider it if I had a 240D and could get the requisite parts 
inexpensively. I don’t see too many offerings of such things these days on the 
various forums.

-D


> On May 15, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> To challenge you to install a 5 speed manual shift transmission.
> 
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:02 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sigh why are they always automatic!?
>> 
>> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:22 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-240D-DIESEL-Auto/333196255068?hash=item4d940b5f5c:g:R1YAAOSwB9Jc2er5
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I got a turbo and K cold intake you can put on, turn up the injectors, 
and if you stack it that'll cut down the back pressure.  Buy the special 
wrenches to adjust your valves too.


--FT

On 5/15/19 4:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I want to get 50mpg and more power out of my 240D

Sent from my iPhone


On May 15, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

What are you trying to accomplish?

To add lubricity, I use RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst. I can’t say enough good 
things about this, and have used it in cars I put as many as 200k on the clock.

I’ve also used Biobor (?) as an algaecide, more for prevention that as a cure.

There are others out there, but the question is more a matter of what you’re 
trying to accomplish.

-D


On May 15, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Fuel tank in car

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On May 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?

-D


On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

What additive should I add to my diesel tank?

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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I want to get 50mpg and more power out of my 240D

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> On May 15, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What are you trying to accomplish?
> 
> To add lubricity, I use RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst. I can’t say enough good 
> things about this, and have used it in cars I put as many as 200k on the 
> clock.
> 
> I’ve also used Biobor (?) as an algaecide, more for prevention that as a cure.
> 
> There are others out there, but the question is more a matter of what you’re 
> trying to accomplish.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Fuel tank in car 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 What additive should I add to my diesel tank?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice, better if vacuumed

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Crank windows.  :(

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:17 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280ls
> Cameron, SC
> $7,200
>
>   * About This Vehicle
>
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Driven 10,000 miles
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Automatic transmission
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Exterior color: Yellow · Interior color: Blue
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Fuel type: Gasoline
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Good condition
> 
>
> Seller's Description
>
> This vintage car is in very good condition and runs good ! Did not come
> with factory air. It at some point air was added but at present needs
> some work ! As you can see the leather seats and leather trim are in
> excellent condition and has been well maintained ! The car runs on gas
> not diesel . Message me or call the owner Bill Tanner
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/485517038653213/
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Listen to Dan.  Avoid all imitators/arrivistes.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What are you trying to accomplish?
>
> To add lubricity, I use RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst. I can’t say enough
> good things about this, and have used it in cars I put as many as 200k on
> the clock.
>
> I’ve also used Biobor (?) as an algaecide, more for prevention that as a
> cure.
>
> There are others out there, but the question is more a matter of what
> you’re trying to accomplish.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 15, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Fuel tank in car
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What additive should I add to my diesel tank?
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] You have to laugh, but....

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am no superdriver.  I purchased my 300TD with 315k miles (and a blown
engine) for $1500.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:33 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I did with my '85 190D, the rear diff got noisy shortly thereafter and I
> got the '84 190D which ended up replacing the '85...
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:04:12 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Interesting point. I don’t think I’ve ever hit 300k on one of my cars,
> but I’ve been close.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 14, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My 300TD shows 373,000.
> >
> > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:28 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Texas miles are pretty easy miles.
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 14, 2019, 4:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In Greece I saw an old 123 taxi with 2.5million km (about 1.5mil
> miles).
> >>> Looked nearly new, on its 3rd engine and I think a new windshield but
> >>> that’s about it according to the owner. So it is possible.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 14, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Look at the mileage on this thing:
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/newberry-mercedes-class-300d-turbo/6877838743.html
> 
>  While his price is a little steep IMHO, the car is really, really
> clean
> >>> for the miles it’s got on it. Looks like it’s been very well cared for.
> 
>  -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Uhhhhh I think I might have found Jaime's next purchase

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

To challenge you to install a 5 speed manual shift transmission.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:02 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> Sigh why are they always automatic!?
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:22 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-240D-DIESEL-Auto/333196255068?hash=item4d940b5f5c:g:R1YAAOSwB9Jc2er5
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Re: [MBZ] MANUAL 240D on BAT

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I am not opposed to certain lighter shades of brown, that incorporate some
yellow, such as the so-called "golden brown".  I don't care for tobacco
brown.  Anthracite gray looks bronzed-y brown in the sun, which I rather
like.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:26 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Wait a minute now...Andrew is compelled by a brown car??!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On May 14, 2019 at 2:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >>
> >> Not sure of the color name. I guess this would be coded on the data
> plate?
> >
> > Yep.
> > https://www.automotivetouchup.com/paint-codes/mercedes-benz.htm
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> >
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[MBZ] Looks nice, better if vacuumed

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

1972 Mercedes-Benz 280ls
Cameron, SC
$7,200

 * About This Vehicle

 *
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 o Driven 10,000 miles
 *
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 o Automatic transmission
 *
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 o Exterior color: Yellow · Interior color: Blue
 *
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 o Fuel type: Gasoline
 *
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 o Good condition
   

Seller's Description

This vintage car is in very good condition and runs good ! Did not come 
with factory air. It at some point air was added but at present needs 
some work ! As you can see the leather seats and leather trim are in 
excellent condition and has been well maintained ! The car runs on gas 
not diesel . Message me or call the owner Bill Tanner



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[MBZ] W116.120 throttle linkage tool A1800720393 diameter

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

Hello all,

Does anyone happen to know the diameter of A1800720393, described as "Adjusting 
sleeve" in the 30-300, "Adjusting throttle linkage". Looks like it's about 1cm 
based on a picture on the ECS Tuning website.

I have carried out the throttle linkage adjustments without this fitting, and 
understand that its function is to keep the "guide lever" (the thing that 
pivots on top of the valve cover, where the throttle and transmission linkages 
attach) at a specified distance during those base settings.

After adjustments the shift behaviour is much improved, but I'd love to be able 
to actually follow the instructions. The adjustments I made totalled only about 
one or two millimetres and, as usual, made a big difference.

Given that it's only a couple of dollars I may just go ahead and order it when 
next I buy from MB, but it seems like something that could be improvised given 
how infrequently it is used. Thanks for any ideas/help anyone could render.

D.

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Re: [MBZ] Camping issues

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Military surplus flame thrower should sterilize things quickly. More
controlled delivery than a rack of 200 lb willie pete from a B52.
Unlike Seattle, where the B52 run would be to better effect.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:58 AM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
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> https://www.apnews.com/cd9e629443e848e1948d85f1c53b8a30
>
> Napalm would clear it up quick.
>
>
> clay monroe
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

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What are you trying to accomplish?

To add lubricity, I use RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst. I can’t say enough good 
things about this, and have used it in cars I put as many as 200k on the clock.

I’ve also used Biobor (?) as an algaecide, more for prevention that as a cure.

There are others out there, but the question is more a matter of what you’re 
trying to accomplish.

-D

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> Fuel tank in car 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>> Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>>> 
>>> What additive should I add to my diesel tank?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Back in the saddle!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I have chased how to hold onto all of my hoard and found no viable solution.  
Best to cut my losses and move on.

having said that, #1 boy just did cut his loses and let go of his w140 300SE 
for $300.  It had been sitting awaiting attention for two years and he was 
never going to get around to the head gasket and wiring harness, so may as well 
allow somebody who will do it have a big old car.

clay monroe

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> On May 14, 2019, at 8:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well Clay,   It was a great idea while it lasted... ha.. So much for
> brilliant advise, huh.
> 
> Seems to the casual observer [myself] that a move of some sort is in your
> future. Glad you avoided unwilling hold in psych ward. That would cut into
> your parts hunting trips in a big way.
> Grant
> "I used to be rich. I spent most of it on fast cars, young women, and old
> whiskey, the rest I squandered."
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:19 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am having issues with the MacPro and mail.  It does not want to send
>> mail using the iPhone as hotspot.  My interwebs were canceled when I left
>> town.  Lucky for me, the macbook still does mail.
>> 
>> ANYWAY.
>> There is nothing within any reasonable distance that would serve as “work
>> space” for working class person money.  I know a fellow who was in the same
>> situation as I am about four years ago.  His work around was to cash part
>> of his retirement and purchase a small town garage.  This way he gets to
>> play with his mercedes, and the shop works on customer cars that may not be
>> DBAG.  He has no children and a very understanding partner.  He drives 30
>> miles from his suburban home to the garage in the next county.
>> 
>> Seattle does not suffer from a dearth of clapped out properties.  There
>> are all manner of brown fields and thrashed commercial structures.
>> Property is stupid expensive and property owners think they will hit the
>> lotto if they hold onto land.  A great amount if the spaces are in less
>> than desirable areas, so they will be paying taxes for a while.
>> 
>> My home has appreciated very much.  Last assessors notice was for more
>> than 5x our purchase price.   With the added remodel costs, it is still
>> over three times our investment in 25 years.
>> 
>> SWMBA is on the path to off loading the house as soon as my stuff is
>> removed.  She will then be removing the accumulation furniture and dross
>> acquired while married.  Her home in AK has no space to take it.  I would
>> like to have my tools.
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> 
>>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Possibly. It’s not so much that there’s development, just that land
>> prices in general have just gone crazy because of the influx of highly paid
>> professionals into the area. I’m betting Clay could sell his house right
>> now for many times over what he’s got in it.
>>> 
>>> What the people I know there say is that as far as private housing you
>> better have a big chunk of change ready to plop down on something when it
>> comes on the market, and expect a bidding war. I can’t speak for commercial
>> property, but in situations like this I would expect it to be much the same
>> unless the area it’s in is really nasty.
>>> 
>>> Let’s see what Clay says….he’ll be the one that knows for sure.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 14, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 On 14/05/2019 1:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> OK, let’s lay this out…
> 
> I would certainly defer to Clay on the details, but having friends who
>> both currently and formerly live(d) in the Sea-Tac region, it’s been
>> described to me as anything property-wise within a reasonable distance (100
>> miles?) to the area on the western slopes of the Cascades borders on
>> unobtanium unless you’re grossing many hundreds of thousands of dollars
>> annually.
> 
> The expansion of Microsoft in the past as well as the influx of
>> Amazonians in recent years has blown out the property market to stupid
>> proportions.
> 
> Many of these folks are bailing out and heading east to places like
>> Idaho, driving markets like Boise into overdrive as well.
> 
> -D
> 
 
 But, might there be temporary places he could rent cheaply while they
>> await development?
 
 
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[MBZ] Camping issues

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://www.apnews.com/cd9e629443e848e1948d85f1c53b8a30

Napalm would clear it up quick.  


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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

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Marshall Booth must be rolling over in his grave about now
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:45 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> And some octane enhancer.  It'll help boost your gas mileage too!
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/15/19 2:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > I am going to recommend adding at least 50% gasoline
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >>
> >> transmission fluid, used oil, some of the additives from the parts
> store, regular motor oil, whatever you have around.  It'll keep your
> injector pump lubricated now that the diesel fuel doesn't have sulfur in it.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>> On 5/15/19 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Fuel tank in car
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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> 
>  Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?
> 
>  -D
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

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And some octane enhancer.  It'll help boost your gas mileage too!

--FT

On 5/15/19 2:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I am going to recommend adding at least 50% gasoline

Sent from my iPhone


On May 15, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

transmission fluid, used oil, some of the additives from the parts store, 
regular motor oil, whatever you have around.  It'll keep your injector pump 
lubricated now that the diesel fuel doesn't have sulfur in it.

--FT


On 5/15/19 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Fuel tank in car

Sent from my iPhone


On May 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?

-D


On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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What additive should I add to my diesel tank?

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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

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I am going to recommend adding at least 50% gasoline 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> transmission fluid, used oil, some of the additives from the parts store, 
> regular motor oil, whatever you have around.  It'll keep your injector pump 
> lubricated now that the diesel fuel doesn't have sulfur in it.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/15/19 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Fuel tank in car
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 What additive should I add to my diesel tank?
 
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Re: [MBZ] You have to laugh, but....

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

While I cannot claim to have driven most of them, in the early 2000s I bought a 
1978 300D, original engine, which had 777,000 MILES (!) on it when the odometer 
died about five years before I got it. It had been used as a daily highway 
commuter, and I drove it as a winter beater in Toronto for another four years. 
Must have had pretty close to a million MILES on it when I gave it away. It had 
really good floor ventilation by the end, but had a nasty habit of scooping up 
snow on the highway... don't leave anything you care about in the rear footwell!

D.

>> On May 14, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My 300TD shows 373,000.
>> 
>> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:28 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Texas miles are pretty easy miles.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2019, 4:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 In Greece I saw an old 123 taxi with 2.5million km (about 1.5mil miles).
 Looked nearly new, on its 3rd engine and I think a new windshield but
 that?s about it according to the owner. So it is possible.
 
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> On May 14, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Look at the mileage on this thing:
> 
> 
 
>>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/newberry-mercedes-class-300d-turbo/6877838743.html
> 
> While his price is a little steep IMHO, the car is really, really clean
 for the miles it?s got on it. Looks like it?s been very well cared for.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

transmission fluid, used oil, some of the additives from the parts 
store, regular motor oil, whatever you have around.  It'll keep your 
injector pump lubricated now that the diesel fuel doesn't have sulfur in it.


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On 5/15/19 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Fuel tank in car

Sent from my iPhone


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Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?

-D


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What additive should I add to my diesel tank?

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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Fuel tank in car 

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> On May 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> What additive should I add to my diesel tank?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Bulk tank or fuel tank in car?

-D

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> What additive should I add to my diesel tank?
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard of this outfit?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 15 May 2019 13:23:24 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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> Ever buy anything?  Their catalog has a LOT of parts listed. 
> 
> http://www.certifit.com/
> 
> http://www.certifit.com/images/catalogs/catalog.pdf


But the furthest they go back is 1998 ...


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[MBZ] A question for Jaime

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

What additive should I add to my diesel tank?

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone heard of this outfit?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Does "Certified" mean CAPA?
Generally CAPA are good to go. 
http://www.capacertified.org/about-capa/overview/

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[MBZ] Anyone heard of this outfit?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Ever buy anything?  Their catalog has a LOT of parts listed.  Guy on FB 
210 group says you can buy the front fascia ("bumper cover") 2108805870 
for $67.  I see a bunch on ebay, lowest is $123.  I figured a used on 
would be at least that much at a knacker, though this one doesn't have 
any of the trim bits so any busted ones would have to be sourced too.  
But still that is really cheap. They have a store or something near 
Durham close to where my daughter is, she could pick one up for me and 
bring it to me.


http://www.certifit.com/

http://www.certifit.com/images/catalogs/catalog.pdf

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Re: [MBZ] You have to laugh, but....

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I did with my '85 190D, the rear diff got noisy shortly thereafter and I got 
the '84 190D which ended up replacing the '85...
-Curt

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:04:12 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Interesting point. I don’t think I’ve ever hit 300k on one of my cars, but 
I’ve been close.

-D

> On May 14, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 300TD shows 373,000.
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:28 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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>> Texas miles are pretty easy miles.
>> 
>> On Tue, May 14, 2019, 4:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In Greece I saw an old 123 taxi with 2.5million km (about 1.5mil miles).
>>> Looked nearly new, on its 3rd engine and I think a new windshield but
>>> that’s about it according to the owner. So it is possible.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 14, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Look at the mileage on this thing:
 
 
>>> 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/newberry-mercedes-class-300d-turbo/6877838743.html
 
 While his price is a little steep IMHO, the car is really, really clean
>>> for the miles it’s got on it. Looks like it’s been very well cared for.
 
 -D
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] ML for Towing?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Does Michigan still have concrete freeways?
New England doesn't although I still remember the days of the "clunk clunk, 
clunk clunk." down the road. Here where frost heaving is an issue it would get 
worse every year even after paving over. They finally pulled all the concrete 
in the '90s.

-Curt

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> On May 14, 2019 at 9:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> Will it town a 18’ car trailer loaded with a 210 for example?

In theory, that should be just within the 5000lb braked limit. 

The ML gives me the impression that it's SWB and on the tall side, I'm not sure 
if the tongue weight of a heavy trailer could induce hobby horsing on freeway 
expansion strips. OTOH, maybe your freeways don't induce galloping like 
Michigan freeways do. 
The dolly is pretty much all push/pull, there's no noticeable up/down action on 
the towing vehicle.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Uhhhhh I think I might have found Jaime's next purchase

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Sigh why are they always automatic!?

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Re: [MBZ] ML for Towing?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Cool! Thanks!

-D

> On May 15, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2019 at 8:53 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So the early MLs don’t care about taillight/brake light connections, 
>> correct? That would be a 163, right?
> 
> I don't know about that, I used an independently powered light controller. 
> If there be bulb out nannies, the input impedance of the controller isn't 
> enough to upset them. 
> There's a 12V outlet in the back, pretty simple to fish a wire from that down 
> to the bumper where I hid the controller. 
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> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AT4RHK
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Re: [MBZ] ML for Towing?

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> On May 15, 2019 at 8:53 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> So the early MLs don’t care about taillight/brake light connections, correct? 
> That would be a 163, right?

I don't know about that, I used an independently powered light controller. 
If there be bulb out nannies, the input impedance of the controller isn't 
enough to upset them. 
There's a 12V outlet in the back, pretty simple to fish a wire from that down 
to the bumper where I hid the controller. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AT4RHK

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Re: [MBZ] ML for Towing?

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I believe that is correct. The issue on the 164 is the stability control nanny, 
braking controller, and light circuit and sensors, and who knows what else. The 
magic box deals with all that stuff.  I saw somewhere that this 99 I have is 
not concerned with those things but I cannot say with certainty but it seems to 
make sense. 

--FT
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> On May 15, 2019, at 8:53 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
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> 
> So the early MLs don’t care about taillight/brake light connections, correct? 
> That would be a 163, right?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 14, 2019, at 10:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I put a Curt hitch on the W164 for a bike rack. it mounted to the factory 
>> points. To hook in lights and to make the nannies happy you need a $2k 
>> controller. Factory tow package has all that so if you want to tow you 
>> should get one with that. 
>> 
>> This 163 I have has a hitch and light connector, I don’t think it has caring 
>> nannies. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 14, 2019 at 6:11 PM fmiser via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 General rule - any vehicle can safely tow its own mass plus a
 bit.  With trailer brakes - even more.  Will the nannies scream
 while you do it?  I don't know.
>>> 
>>> I believe Rich said something about turning off the nannies in a later 
>>> model W164 at a non trivial cost. 
>>> 
>>> My W163, a 2003 ML350, has ESP and 4Matic but it doesn't care if I'm towing 
>>> a 2900lb car on a 400lb dolly. Within a week of buying it, I drove it to 
>>> Cleveland to pick up a Cruze. The only issues were the usual ones involving 
>>> trying to get to Cleveland on rough roads with a bouncing empty dolly 
>>> behind me. It's rated for 5000lb, but wears a class II Curt hitch rated at 
>>> 3500lb. 
>>> The hitch looks as solid as the 5000lb Draw-Tite version to me, but the 
>>> Draw-Tite comes with two pieces of steel angle to reinforce the ML's frame. 
>>> I don't know if MLs with factory towing package come with those 
>>> reinforcements or not. I'd tow the W140 with the ML and not worry about 
>>> ripping the rear crossmember off the ML's chassis. I've only towed Cruzes, 
>>> but I would tow a 210 or 140 if the need arose. 
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] You have to laugh, but....

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Interesting point. I don’t think I’ve ever hit 300k on one of my cars, but I’ve 
been close.

-D

> On May 14, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 300TD shows 373,000.
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:28 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Texas miles are pretty easy miles.
>> 
>> On Tue, May 14, 2019, 4:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In Greece I saw an old 123 taxi with 2.5million km (about 1.5mil miles).
>>> Looked nearly new, on its 3rd engine and I think a new windshield but
>>> that’s about it according to the owner. So it is possible.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 14, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Look at the mileage on this thing:
 
 
>>> 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/newberry-mercedes-class-300d-turbo/6877838743.html
 
 While his price is a little steep IMHO, the car is really, really clean
>>> for the miles it’s got on it. Looks like it’s been very well cared for.
 
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Re: [MBZ] ML for Towing?

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So the early MLs don’t care about taillight/brake light connections, correct? 
That would be a 163, right?

-D

> On May 14, 2019, at 10:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I put a Curt hitch on the W164 for a bike rack. it mounted to the factory 
> points. To hook in lights and to make the nannies happy you need a $2k 
> controller. Factory tow package has all that so if you want to tow you should 
> get one with that. 
> 
> This 163 I have has a hitch and light connector, I don’t think it has caring 
> nannies. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On May 14, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2019 at 6:11 PM fmiser via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> General rule - any vehicle can safely tow its own mass plus a
>>> bit.  With trailer brakes - even more.  Will the nannies scream
>>> while you do it?  I don't know.
>> 
>> I believe Rich said something about turning off the nannies in a later model 
>> W164 at a non trivial cost. 
>> 
>> My W163, a 2003 ML350, has ESP and 4Matic but it doesn't care if I'm towing 
>> a 2900lb car on a 400lb dolly. Within a week of buying it, I drove it to 
>> Cleveland to pick up a Cruze. The only issues were the usual ones involving 
>> trying to get to Cleveland on rough roads with a bouncing empty dolly behind 
>> me. It's rated for 5000lb, but wears a class II Curt hitch rated at 3500lb. 
>> The hitch looks as solid as the 5000lb Draw-Tite version to me, but the 
>> Draw-Tite comes with two pieces of steel angle to reinforce the ML's frame. 
>> I don't know if MLs with factory towing package come with those 
>> reinforcements or not. I'd tow the W140 with the ML and not worry about 
>> ripping the rear crossmember off the ML's chassis. I've only towed Cruzes, 
>> but I would tow a 210 or 140 if the need arose. 
>> 
>> Mitch.
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[MBZ] OT Florida Man strikes again

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

https://abcnews4.com/news/offbeat/man-slaps-sleeping-girlfriend-with-a-cheeseburger-sheriff-says

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