Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Moon Landing: Where Were You?
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:00:07 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: > I remember that evening well! > > I was working as a ramp rat at JFKIA, loading food into SAS and Eastern > galleys. We feasted on SAS marzipan moon landing replica cake that > night. I was at Forbes AFB, Topeka, Kansas for Air Force ROTC field training. There was only one television available for a whole squadron of cadets, so I did not get to see it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
First nations people count back seven generation. No idea why, just know they do. That would make long term residents Natives. The US Constitution grants you to be Native Born if you fall out and land on US soil. A great many long term family residents may have non european blood lines intermingled. Those silly DNA apps keep uncovering a host of hidden skeletons families thought long dead. I know many First Nations people who are offended to be miss characterized as mexicans. There are also a bunch who look shades whiter than I do. NAACP in Easter Washington even had a white gal from Idaho be their leader. My folks have been here for 400 years, at least in the records. There is no doubt enough local blood in the line, but not enough for inclusion in any recognized tribal structure. clay > On Jul 20, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> They should now be called native americans. > > I find that term offensive, because besides myself, chances are we are _all_ > native. > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Exactly. Also, add-on fans can disrupt the normal "eves-to-ridge" thermosiphon that's supposed to ventilate the attic. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 9:08 PM > To: Okie Benz > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Message > > My former next door neighbor is a “forensic HVAC investigator”. In other > words, he works for insurance companies, identifying the part HVAC systems > play in losses their insureds encounter. I had been talking to him about > putting > a solar powered attic fan in the house to get the attic temperatures down. He > told me that before I did anything like that I should seal the “envelope” as > tightly as I possibly could. > > Seems that people will go and put an attic fan in, thinking it will reduce the > heat load on the living space by making the attic cooler. In reality, what > often > happens (according to him) is that the attic fan creates a negative pressure > in > the attic, which sucks conditioned air out of the living space through all the > little racks and gaps that exist in every house. As a result, costs to > condition the > living space often go up after doing this, not down. > > So he cautioned me to seal up the house as best I could and then put an attic > fan in, as long as the attic is properly ventilated (which is already was.) > > -D > > > On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:00 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > In my former house I went in the attic and caulked all the wall and > > wallboard > joints, sealed the light fixtures, and caulked all holes for wiring, etc. > Made a big > difference. The interior walls act like chimneys and pull air in from the > outside. > The results are amazing. > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: July 20, 2019 7:37 PM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: d...@penoff.com > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Message > > > > Plenty of blow-in over the conditioned air space. I also went through the > house when we moved in and sealed every possible crack, joint or penetration > in the walls and ceilings. Had a blower door test done afterwards and the guy > said it was one of the tightest homes he had ever tested. Definitely cut a > good > 10%-15% on our cooling costs. > > > > There’s no cheaper gain in efficiency than to go around and seal up all the > openings in a house. Amazing how much conditioned air escapes around > things like light fixtures in the ceiling, for example. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
> They should now be called native americans. I find that term offensive, because besides myself, chances are we are _all_ native. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
123's are pretty scarce at the dismantlers anymore. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 20, 2019 8:43 PM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The 123 list Am I the only one to have gambled on a warrantedd used working transmission from LKQ for $700? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
Native Americans is preferred, but Indian is not a racist term. On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 7:54 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I was at my fathers earlier today and he was watching the Lone Ranger. > I had a good laugh as they were referring to Indians as injuns. I guess > now days that term is raciest. In fact, I was told the other day to > call them Indians is now considered raciest. They should now be called > native americans. > > On 7/20/2019 6:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > > Pretty much. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jul 20, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On July 20, 2019 at 4:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> If you are a 123 lister i guess so. > >> Everybody who disagrees with the Progressives, about anything, even car > modifications, is a racist. The scary part is I think most of them actually > believe it. > >> > >> Mitch. > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
Am I the only one to have gambled on a warrantedd used working transmission from LKQ for $700? On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 2:33 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > the wizard does not get a kickback from Sun Valley. > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 7/20/19 1:26 PM: > > The real irony of this whole thing about transmissions is the guy is > looking for a rebuilt transmission for his W123 and he lives in SoCal. So > why wouldn’t you get it from Sun Valley??? > > > > > > > > -D > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what is it?
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 21:10:59 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Tom or Ed will talk to you about it, but on a very limited basis. It’s > a fairly complex system since it’s multiple components, so if they even > agree to look at it you have to pull everything and send it in as a > system. > > I believe it’s about $150 per unit for rebuilding or thereabouts, which > would make it $450 for the system as a whole. > > I think Jaime knows these and may have some insight into how they work > and troubleshooting. I see. What automobiles would the CD changer I got from you a few years ago fit? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what is it?
Tom or Ed will talk to you about it, but on a very limited basis. It’s a fairly complex system since it’s multiple components, so if they even agree to look at it you have to pull everything and send it in as a system. I believe it’s about $150 per unit for rebuilding or thereabouts, which would make it $450 for the system as a whole. I think Jaime knows these and may have some insight into how they work and troubleshooting. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:03 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:33:38 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Be glad if it’s working. Changing to an aftermarket system is a major >> undertaking in these cars, as it requires rewiring the whole audio >> system. > >> Stock is the only way to go. You have to either totally bypass the >> stock system or carve it up to the point where it’s pretty much >> worthless to install an aftermarket system. > > I don't know if it's working. I'll have to check that out. > > I presume someone at Becker would be the one to talk with if it does not > work. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
My former next door neighbor is a “forensic HVAC investigator”. In other words, he works for insurance companies, identifying the part HVAC systems play in losses their insureds encounter. I had been talking to him about putting a solar powered attic fan in the house to get the attic temperatures down. He told me that before I did anything like that I should seal the “envelope” as tightly as I possibly could. Seems that people will go and put an attic fan in, thinking it will reduce the heat load on the living space by making the attic cooler. In reality, what often happens (according to him) is that the attic fan creates a negative pressure in the attic, which sucks conditioned air out of the living space through all the little racks and gaps that exist in every house. As a result, costs to condition the living space often go up after doing this, not down. So he cautioned me to seal up the house as best I could and then put an attic fan in, as long as the attic is properly ventilated (which is already was.) -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:00 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > In my former house I went in the attic and caulked all the wall and wallboard > joints, sealed the light fixtures, and caulked all holes for wiring, etc. > Made a big difference. The interior walls act like chimneys and pull air in > from the outside. The results are amazing. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: July 20, 2019 7:37 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Message > > Plenty of blow-in over the conditioned air space. I also went through the > house when we moved in and sealed every possible crack, joint or penetration > in the walls and ceilings. Had a blower door test done afterwards and the guy > said it was one of the tightest homes he had ever tested. Definitely cut a > good 10%-15% on our cooling costs. > > There’s no cheaper gain in efficiency than to go around and seal up all the > openings in a house. Amazing how much conditioned air escapes around things > like light fixtures in the ceiling, for example. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what is it?
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:33:38 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Be glad if it’s working. Changing to an aftermarket system is a major > undertaking in these cars, as it requires rewiring the whole audio > system. > Stock is the only way to go. You have to either totally bypass the > stock system or carve it up to the point where it’s pretty much > worthless to install an aftermarket system. I don't know if it's working. I'll have to check that out. I presume someone at Becker would be the one to talk with if it does not work. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
In my former house I went in the attic and caulked all the wall and wallboard joints, sealed the light fixtures, and caulked all holes for wiring, etc. Made a big difference. The interior walls act like chimneys and pull air in from the outside. The results are amazing. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 20, 2019 7:37 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Message Plenty of blow-in over the conditioned air space. I also went through the house when we moved in and sealed every possible crack, joint or penetration in the walls and ceilings. Had a blower door test done afterwards and the guy said it was one of the tightest homes he had ever tested. Definitely cut a good 10%-15% on our cooling costs. There’s no cheaper gain in efficiency than to go around and seal up all the openings in a house. Amazing how much conditioned air escapes around things like light fixtures in the ceiling, for example. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what is it?
Stock is the only way to go. You have to either totally bypass the stock system or carve it up to the point where it’s pretty much worthless to install an aftermarket system. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I hate seeing a 91-93 with an aftermarket radio. That means the wiring has > been hacked up and I prefer to keep they stock. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yup, in the 93 model, the “brains” of the radio is in the box on the right, >> closest to the exterior of the car. The bass amplifier is in the one with >> the heat sink all over the exterior on the left. >> >> You have a BE1432 head unit, a 1432 receiver (on right side of trunk >> mounting plate) and a bass amp (left side of trunk mounting plate). >> >> Unfortunately, the only way to get a CD changer in these is to have a MUX >> (multiplexer) that was unique to these model years along with the proper CD >> changer. It was a Becker designed device that was bolted to the back of the >> CD changer and had a rather substantial cable that went between the MUX and >> the receiver. >> >> They’re very rare and desirable, so they’re hard to find and expensive when >> you do find one. Not so much because people want the CD changers setup, but >> because the MUX can be used to provide a line level input allowing you to >> connect an iPod or other external device to the system in place of the CD >> changer. >> >> Be glad if it’s working. Changing to an aftermarket system is a major >> undertaking in these cars, as it requires rewiring the whole audio system. >> >> -D >> >> >> >>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:11:13 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> Do you have the stock Becker system? If so, that’s your “brains” and the amplifier. >>> >>> Attached is a picture of the radio in the console. >>> >>> I understand the black box with the heatsinking fins is the amplifier. >>> >>> What makes up the "brains"? >>> >>> What do they do? >>> >>> Would a CD changer be able to connect to this? >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what is it?
I hate seeing a 91-93 with an aftermarket radio. That means the wiring has been hacked up and I prefer to keep they stock. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yup, in the 93 model, the “brains” of the radio is in the box on the right, > closest to the exterior of the car. The bass amplifier is in the one with the > heat sink all over the exterior on the left. > > You have a BE1432 head unit, a 1432 receiver (on right side of trunk mounting > plate) and a bass amp (left side of trunk mounting plate). > > Unfortunately, the only way to get a CD changer in these is to have a MUX > (multiplexer) that was unique to these model years along with the proper CD > changer. It was a Becker designed device that was bolted to the back of the > CD changer and had a rather substantial cable that went between the MUX and > the receiver. > > They’re very rare and desirable, so they’re hard to find and expensive when > you do find one. Not so much because people want the CD changers setup, but > because the MUX can be used to provide a line level input allowing you to > connect an iPod or other external device to the system in place of the CD > changer. > > Be glad if it’s working. Changing to an aftermarket system is a major > undertaking in these cars, as it requires rewiring the whole audio system. > > -D > > > >> On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:11:13 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> Do you have the stock Becker system? If so, that’s your “brains” and >>> the amplifier. >> >> Attached is a picture of the radio in the console. >> >> I understand the black box with the heatsinking fins is the amplifier. >> >> What makes up the "brains"? >> >> What do they do? >> >> Would a CD changer be able to connect to this? >> >> >> Craig >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Plenty of blow-in over the conditioned air space. I also went through the house when we moved in and sealed every possible crack, joint or penetration in the walls and ceilings. Had a blower door test done afterwards and the guy said it was one of the tightest homes he had ever tested. Definitely cut a good 10%-15% on our cooling costs. There’s no cheaper gain in efficiency than to go around and seal up all the openings in a house. Amazing how much conditioned air escapes around things like light fixtures in the ceiling, for example. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:22 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > It always puzzled me why in southern climates the use of insulation is > minimal. I mean, yeah you don't get sub zero temps, but a/c is expensive to > run also. I suppose air infiltration is an issue too. Gotta keep the heat out > and the cool in. Cost recovery too long perhaps? > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: July 20, 2019 7:10 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Message > > No insulation, just a little bit of decking for storage. > > Until recently it wasn’t an option as we stored stuff up there. I’ve moved > nearly everything out and into a storage unit off site, so I could probably > do it now. > > -D > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what is it?
Yup, in the 93 model, the “brains” of the radio is in the box on the right, closest to the exterior of the car. The bass amplifier is in the one with the heat sink all over the exterior on the left. You have a BE1432 head unit, a 1432 receiver (on right side of trunk mounting plate) and a bass amp (left side of trunk mounting plate). Unfortunately, the only way to get a CD changer in these is to have a MUX (multiplexer) that was unique to these model years along with the proper CD changer. It was a Becker designed device that was bolted to the back of the CD changer and had a rather substantial cable that went between the MUX and the receiver. They’re very rare and desirable, so they’re hard to find and expensive when you do find one. Not so much because people want the CD changers setup, but because the MUX can be used to provide a line level input allowing you to connect an iPod or other external device to the system in place of the CD changer. Be glad if it’s working. Changing to an aftermarket system is a major undertaking in these cars, as it requires rewiring the whole audio system. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:11:13 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Do you have the stock Becker system? If so, that’s your “brains” and >> the amplifier. > > Attached is a picture of the radio in the console. > > I understand the black box with the heatsinking fins is the amplifier. > > What makes up the "brains"? > > What do they do? > > Would a CD changer be able to connect to this? > > > Craig > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what is it?
That's the second half of the radio. If you ever replace that with aftermarket, you'll need to route the antenna cable up to the front half in the center stack. Not fun. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On July 20, 2019 8:22:09 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes wrote: >On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:11:13 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Do you have the stock Becker system? If so, that’s your “brains” and >> the amplifier. > >Attached is a picture of the radio in the console. > >I understand the black box with the heatsinking fins is the amplifier. > >What makes up the "brains"? > >What do they do? > >Would a CD changer be able to connect to this? > > >Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
It always puzzled me why in southern climates the use of insulation is minimal. I mean, yeah you don't get sub zero temps, but a/c is expensive to run also. I suppose air infiltration is an issue too. Gotta keep the heat out and the cool in. Cost recovery too long perhaps? Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 20, 2019 7:10 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Message No insulation, just a little bit of decking for storage. Until recently it wasn’t an option as we stored stuff up there. I’ve moved nearly everything out and into a storage unit off site, so I could probably do it now. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what is it?
Do you have the stock Becker system? If so, that’s your “brains” and the amplifier. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > Or, rather, what are they? > > I have been cleaning out the trunk on our '93 E300D and took out the side > trim pieces. When I took out the right one, I was surprised to find the > two electronic boxes shown in the pictures. > > Any idea what they might be? > > I'm a little hesitant to start taking things apart to figure out what > they are ... > > > Craig > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
No insulation, just a little bit of decking for storage. Until recently it wasn’t an option as we stored stuff up there. I’ve moved nearly everything out and into a storage unit off site, so I could probably do it now. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:28 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > Check for insulation in the ceiling too, often they don't put in any for an > attached garage (which is silly, why would you want a roasting hot garage > next the the house?). > > My brother put some in his a couple years ago, and it drops the summer temp > quite a bit, and the washer doesn't freeze anymore in the winter. > > Insulating the door is a great idea, it's not very expensive and does quite a > bit to cool it off, especially if it faces south or west. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > They make 'indestructible' model aircraft out of EPP (expanded > polypropylene?). Blue board is EPS, polystyrene, styrofoam. When you > squish it it doesn't bounce back. That's why I said it was fragile. It tears, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
> On July 20, 2019 at 7:47 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > Would some rigid board insulation be suitable? I'm thinking the blue Dow > styrofoam boards would be too fragile, but I have in the past seen some > which was tougher than that and even more flexible. I do not, however, > recall what it was called. > They make 'indestructible' model aircraft out of EPP (expanded polypropylene?). Blue board is EPS, polystyrene, styrofoam. When you squish it it doesn't bounce back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
I was at my fathers earlier today and he was watching the Lone Ranger. I had a good laugh as they were referring to Indians as injuns. I guess now days that term is raciest. In fact, I was told the other day to call them Indians is now considered raciest. They should now be called native americans. On 7/20/2019 6:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: Pretty much. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 20, 2019 at 4:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: If you are a 123 lister i guess so. Everybody who disagrees with the Progressives, about anything, even car modifications, is a racist. The scary part is I think most of them actually believe it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
Pretty much. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On July 20, 2019 at 4:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> If you are a 123 lister i guess so. > > Everybody who disagrees with the Progressives, about anything, even car > modifications, is a racist. The scary part is I think most of them actually > believe it. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 18:28:11 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > Check for insulation in the ceiling too, often they don't put in any > for an attached garage (which is silly, why would you want a roasting > hot garage next the the house?). > > My brother put some in his a couple years ago, and it drops the summer > temp quite a bit, and the washer doesn't freeze anymore in the winter. When we lived in Austin, Texas, I helped our landlord put insulation in the garage's ceiling. Like your brother, Peter, we found it was quite helpful. > Insulating the door is a great idea, it's not very expensive and does > quite a bit to cool it off, especially if it faces south or west. Would some rigid board insulation be suitable? I'm thinking the blue Dow styrofoam boards would be too fragile, but I have in the past seen some which was tougher than that and even more flexible. I do not, however, recall what it was called. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:11:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > If I insulated my garage door it would probably be even better, as a > LOT of heat passes through it. I can stand by it late in the afternoon > with the garage AC on and feel the higher temperatures within a foot or > two of it. It does sound like it's time for some insulation! Our Big Room is insulated, but it heats up quite noticably during the day while the Long Room, where we live, stays cool. I'm thinking the translucent "skylights" are a significant contributor to that. At night, it's the reverse, so I open the door between the rooms to let the cooler air from the Big Room flow into the Long Room. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Check for insulation in the ceiling too, often they don't put in any for an attached garage (which is silly, why would you want a roasting hot garage next the the house?). My brother put some in his a couple years ago, and it drops the summer temp quite a bit, and the washer doesn't freeze anymore in the winter. Insulating the door is a great idea, it's not very expensive and does quite a bit to cool it off, especially if it faces south or west. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM606 Fuel Lines
That’s what I’m confused about. Why wouldn’t they include it? If anything, at least footnote the part in the EPC and say that the O ring should be ordered with it. I doubt I could have reused mine, as it was probably over 100k old and hard as a rock. I didn’t even try. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > It is really inconvenient that Mercedes doesn't include that O-ring, I think > I had to re-use it for the first one I changed. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > On July 20, 2019 6:52:35 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: >> Did you? I forgot. Sorry, and thanks! >> >> I have no short term memory to speak of. >> >> -D >> >>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >>> >>> I warned you about that one. BTDT. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> >>> On July 20, 2019 2:24:32 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: Replaced the hard plastic fuel lines around and about the injection pump and fuel filter assembly on the eldest’s E300D today. Not a fun job, but not difficult. Amazingly, the new lines are just as hard as the originals. I figured they would be a little more flexible, but apparently not. Probably that way so they won’t collapse. I’m betting we probably could have just changed the O rings on the fittings out and all would have been well, but the new lines are >> pretty cheap. Replaced the shutoff valve/bolt in the top of the filter assembly, >> too, as the one on the car was leaking fuel through the weep hole. Also replaced the hard line for the fuel return to the main tank. The original one was some sort of weird dark blue plastic that was as >> hard as a rock. Good to have plenty of metric hose around on the shelf, courtesy of BelMetric. One surprise - I had a new prefilter that we installed as a part of >> the work. All went well, had to crank the engine for about 3-4 minutes total to get the air purged, but noticed that when the engine was >> shut down fuel leaked profusely from the area around the top of the prefilter. Everything was tight and the O ring appeared to be >> sealing properly on the fitting. Hmmm. Looked at the old prefilter. Big O ring on the top of the assembly above where the screen is attached to the plastic fitting. New (OE Mercedes) prefilter - no O ring. Got an O ring out of my O ring kit and fitted it. Not perfect as it wasn’t as wide as the correct one, but the diameter was right so it appears to be sealing. Called my dealer parts guy (he works >> Saturdays) and he’s got one in stock, so I’ll snag it on Monday. I’m surprised that the O ring isn’t supplied on the replacement >> filter. And no, there wasn’t a plastic bag in the package. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
I just snagged the biggest window unit (12,000 BTU?) I could off of Craigslist and popped it in the window. I had to run a circuit over to that side of the garage from my distribution panel which is on the opposite wall of the garage and add a breaker to the panel. I have an slightly oversize two car garage. In 90 degree heat like today, I had the boy roll his car in about 9:00 am and turn on the AC. By 10:00 it was pretty comfortable. It’s not so much the temp, but taking the humidity out really makes it so, so much better. Otherwise we would be sweating our brains out and soaking wet. My electric bill is getting hammered by it, but I don’t care. I noticed that my bill was up to $190 for last month, but considering the time of year and the amount of time I ran the thing I’m not at all unhappy. Without the garage AC I think the bill would have been more in the $160-$170 range, so $20-$30 is a small price to pay for making it possible to work in the garage this time of year without being totally miserable. If I insulated my garage door it would probably be even better, as a LOT of heat passes through it. I can stand by it late in the afternoon with the garage AC on and feel the higher temperatures within a foot or two of it. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'm really thinking about adding AC to my garage. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > On July 20, 2019 2:46:30 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: >> Low 90s and high humidity. Storms after 4:00 pm. >> >> Welcome to Florida in the summer. Glad I have AC in the garage. Made >> working on the E300D this morning a real pleasure. >> >> -D >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
I'm really thinking about adding AC to my garage. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On July 20, 2019 2:46:30 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Low 90s and high humidity. Storms after 4:00 pm. > >Welcome to Florida in the summer. Glad I have AC in the garage. Made >working on the E300D this morning a real pleasure. > >-D > > >> On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes > wrote: >> >> It has been creeping around 20c the past few days in ANC. Still a >bit too warm for the boys and girls fighting wildfires. Today will be >a stretch to make 15c and that will bring more smoke? Not sure how >that functions. No cars to work on, little in the way of yard to screw >with, been rather moist in SEA, so I will probably have tall grass to >mow when I return in a week. >> >> >> clay >> >>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: >>> >>> It’s supposed to be 97 here today with a heat index of 112. I’m >probably not going to work on cars today. Taking a break until tomorrow >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM606 Fuel Lines
It is really inconvenient that Mercedes doesn't include that O-ring, I think I had to re-use it for the first one I changed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On July 20, 2019 6:52:35 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Did you? I forgot. Sorry, and thanks! > >I have no short term memory to speak of. > >-D > >> On Jul 20, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: >> >> I warned you about that one. BTDT. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> >> On July 20, 2019 2:24:32 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: >>> Replaced the hard plastic fuel lines around and about the injection >>> pump and fuel filter assembly on the eldest’s E300D today. Not a fun >>> job, but not difficult. Amazingly, the new lines are just as hard as >>> the originals. I figured they would be a little more flexible, but >>> apparently not. Probably that way so they won’t collapse. >>> >>> I’m betting we probably could have just changed the O rings on the >>> fittings out and all would have been well, but the new lines are >pretty >>> cheap. >>> >>> Replaced the shutoff valve/bolt in the top of the filter assembly, >too, >>> as the one on the car was leaking fuel through the weep hole. Also >>> replaced the hard line for the fuel return to the main tank. The >>> original one was some sort of weird dark blue plastic that was as >hard >>> as a rock. Good to have plenty of metric hose around on the shelf, >>> courtesy of BelMetric. >>> >>> One surprise - I had a new prefilter that we installed as a part of >the >>> work. All went well, had to crank the engine for about 3-4 minutes >>> total to get the air purged, but noticed that when the engine was >shut >>> down fuel leaked profusely from the area around the top of the >>> prefilter. Everything was tight and the O ring appeared to be >sealing >>> properly on the fitting. Hmmm. >>> >>> Looked at the old prefilter. Big O ring on the top of the assembly >>> above where the screen is attached to the plastic fitting. New (OE >>> Mercedes) prefilter - no O ring. >>> >>> Got an O ring out of my O ring kit and fitted it. Not perfect as it >>> wasn’t as wide as the correct one, but the diameter was right so it >>> appears to be sealing. Called my dealer parts guy (he works >Saturdays) >>> and he’s got one in stock, so I’ll snag it on Monday. >>> >>> I’m surprised that the O ring isn’t supplied on the replacement >filter. >>> And no, there wasn’t a plastic bag in the package. >>> >>> -D >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM606 Fuel Lines
Did you? I forgot. Sorry, and thanks! I have no short term memory to speak of. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I warned you about that one. BTDT. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > On July 20, 2019 2:24:32 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: >> Replaced the hard plastic fuel lines around and about the injection >> pump and fuel filter assembly on the eldest’s E300D today. Not a fun >> job, but not difficult. Amazingly, the new lines are just as hard as >> the originals. I figured they would be a little more flexible, but >> apparently not. Probably that way so they won’t collapse. >> >> I’m betting we probably could have just changed the O rings on the >> fittings out and all would have been well, but the new lines are pretty >> cheap. >> >> Replaced the shutoff valve/bolt in the top of the filter assembly, too, >> as the one on the car was leaking fuel through the weep hole. Also >> replaced the hard line for the fuel return to the main tank. The >> original one was some sort of weird dark blue plastic that was as hard >> as a rock. Good to have plenty of metric hose around on the shelf, >> courtesy of BelMetric. >> >> One surprise - I had a new prefilter that we installed as a part of the >> work. All went well, had to crank the engine for about 3-4 minutes >> total to get the air purged, but noticed that when the engine was shut >> down fuel leaked profusely from the area around the top of the >> prefilter. Everything was tight and the O ring appeared to be sealing >> properly on the fitting. Hmmm. >> >> Looked at the old prefilter. Big O ring on the top of the assembly >> above where the screen is attached to the plastic fitting. New (OE >> Mercedes) prefilter - no O ring. >> >> Got an O ring out of my O ring kit and fitted it. Not perfect as it >> wasn’t as wide as the correct one, but the diameter was right so it >> appears to be sealing. Called my dealer parts guy (he works Saturdays) >> and he’s got one in stock, so I’ll snag it on Monday. >> >> I’m surprised that the O ring isn’t supplied on the replacement filter. >> And no, there wasn’t a plastic bag in the package. >> >> -D >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM606 Fuel Lines
I warned you about that one. BTDT. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On July 20, 2019 2:24:32 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Replaced the hard plastic fuel lines around and about the injection >pump and fuel filter assembly on the eldest’s E300D today. Not a fun >job, but not difficult. Amazingly, the new lines are just as hard as >the originals. I figured they would be a little more flexible, but >apparently not. Probably that way so they won’t collapse. > >I’m betting we probably could have just changed the O rings on the >fittings out and all would have been well, but the new lines are pretty >cheap. > >Replaced the shutoff valve/bolt in the top of the filter assembly, too, >as the one on the car was leaking fuel through the weep hole. Also >replaced the hard line for the fuel return to the main tank. The >original one was some sort of weird dark blue plastic that was as hard >as a rock. Good to have plenty of metric hose around on the shelf, >courtesy of BelMetric. > >One surprise - I had a new prefilter that we installed as a part of the >work. All went well, had to crank the engine for about 3-4 minutes >total to get the air purged, but noticed that when the engine was shut >down fuel leaked profusely from the area around the top of the >prefilter. Everything was tight and the O ring appeared to be sealing >properly on the fitting. Hmmm. > >Looked at the old prefilter. Big O ring on the top of the assembly >above where the screen is attached to the plastic fitting. New (OE >Mercedes) prefilter - no O ring. > >Got an O ring out of my O ring kit and fitted it. Not perfect as it >wasn’t as wide as the correct one, but the diameter was right so it >appears to be sealing. Called my dealer parts guy (he works Saturdays) >and he’s got one in stock, so I’ll snag it on Monday. > >I’m surprised that the O ring isn’t supplied on the replacement filter. >And no, there wasn’t a plastic bag in the package. > >-D > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Moon Landing: Where Were You?
I remember that evening well! I was working as a ramp rat at JFKIA, loading food into SAS and Eastern galleys. We feasted on SAS marzipan moon landing replica cake that night. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curley McLain via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 12:40 PM To: Mercedes_Discussion_List Cc: Curley McLain Subject: [MBZ] Happy Moon Landing +50 years Here is to all the guys with the "right stuff" who became the original 7, and the additional guys in the Gemini and Apollo programs. And to those who applied and were not accepted; And to all the guys in white shirts and skinny black ties with slipsticks, and to all the grunts on the ground who put all the pieces together so they would work. And here's to Chuck Yeager who started it all. I heard a replay of an interview with Chuck Yeager. He did not apply for the Astronaut selection because it required a kolledge degree. Chuck had a HS diploma, but not a kolledge degree. What a loss. Chuck would have made a great astronaut. As a kid, I remember being surprised that Chuck was not there when they announced the first 7. I never knew why. Now I know, it was stupidity on the part of those who set the criteria. Chuck, and Bob Hoover and Paul Poberezny would be the guys I looked up to most as I grew up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Moon Landing +50 years
I got to escort Gene Cernan around Purdue one day when he came to give a talk, he was the nicest guy you could imagine. I think he felt quite at home again back among his people, no need for any show or pretense, just relax and be a regular guy. That was quite an honor. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 3:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > It has been my personal pleasure to have met with all three, on more than > one occasion. Aviation is a pretty small world, people wise, so the > opportunity came. > What impressed me most, in each case, was how very human and humble they > all were, despite having done "stuff". > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 12:40 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Here is to all the guys with the "right stuff" who became the original >> 7, and the additional guys in the Gemini and Apollo programs. And to >> those who applied and were not accepted; And to all the guys in white >> shirts and skinny black ties with slipsticks, and to all the grunts on >> the ground who put all the pieces together so they would work. And >> here's to Chuck Yeager who started it all. >> >> I heard a replay of an interview with Chuck Yeager. He did not apply >> for the Astronaut selection because it required a kolledge degree. Chuck >> had a HS diploma, but not a kolledge degree. What a loss. Chuck would >> have made a great astronaut. As a kid, I remember being surprised that >> Chuck was not there when they announced the first 7. I never knew >> why. Now I know, it was stupidity on the part of those who set the >> criteria. >> >> >> Chuck, and Bob Hoover and Paul Poberezny would be the guys I looked up >> to most as I grew up. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Moon Landing +50 years
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 14:39:44 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Here is to all the guys with the "right stuff" who became the original > 7, and the additional guys in the Gemini and Apollo programs. Here is an exchange from my other email list. Craig -- Subject: [GWR] Fw: A tribute to Neil and Buzz Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:36:33 + Hello Everyone, Here is an exchange with Dr. Volker Vahrenholt, the son of Professor Dr. Fritz Vahrenholt, who has helped us greatly in the climate battles. Both father and son are distinguished PhDs from Germany. Gordon Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 2:14 PM To: Volker Vahrenholt Cc: Prof. Dr. Fritz Vahrenholt Subject: Re: A tribute to Neil and Buzz Thank you Volker, That is a great animation of the Apollo 11 moon mission, showing many of the important technical details that are frequently overlooked. With that much complexity, we have to marvel that everything went according to plan. Although the first moon landing occurred 50 years ago, I remember it well. I was spending the summer here in the Pacific Northwest and on a rock climbing trip with a fellow graduate student from the University of Chicago. We were both close to taking our qualifying exams for the physics program. But that day we were out climbing near Leavenworth, Washington. That is a town modeled on a Bavarian village. We listened to the moon landing on our car radio and then went out rock climbing when the announcer said that it would be several hours before Neil Armstrong would emerge onto the lunar surface. Of course, Armstrong and Aldrin did not wait that long. So we missed hearing his "One small step for a man; one giant leap for mankind." But we quickly packed up our gear and headed into town to see if we could find a TV to watch Armstrong and Aldrin walking on the moon. When we finally found a TV in a bar, we watched with great fascination. But we were the only ones interested, as most were too busy drinking! It was surreal - no one else was interested! Today, I find myself working with Harrison Schmitt, another of the Directors of the CO2 Coalition, on climate issues. Harrison is the only scientist (geologist) to have walked on the moon and the most recent living person to have done so. Armstrong is long gone, and Aldrin and Collins are close to 90 years old. Good to hear from you! Please give my regards to your father. Gordon Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 10:13 AM To: Gordon Cc: Prof. Dr. Fritz Vahrenholt Subject: A tribute to Neil and Buzz Hello Gordon, How are you? Since 50 anniversary of moon landing, here is a tribute to Neil and Buzz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FdTL256Cg Have fun! Volker ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
I don’t think these people screaming racist even know what it is. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On July 20, 2019 at 4:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> If you are a 123 lister i guess so. > > Everybody who disagrees with the Progressives, about anything, even car > modifications, is a racist. The scary part is I think most of them actually > believe it. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 16:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > > On July 20, 2019 at 4:09 PM Craig via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > 95°F > > > > Humidity13% > > Wind Speed Calm > > Barometer 30.11 in > > Dewpoint37°F (3°C) > > I'd rather have 95 with 37 dewpoint than 92 with 80 dewpoint. From http://www.shorstmeyer.com/wxfaqs/humidity/humidity.html Dew Point Relative Humidity Temp. F Human PerceptionFor Air Temp 90 F 75+Extremely uncomfortable, oppressive62% 70 - 74Very Humid, quite uncomfortable52% - 60% 65 - 69Somewhat uncomfortable for most people at upper limit 44% - 52% 60 - 64OK for most, but everyone perceives37% - 46% the humidity at upper limit 55 - 59Comfortable31% - 41% 50 - 54Very comfortable 31% - 37% 49 or lowerFeels like the western US 30% a bit dry to some Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Moon Landing +50 years
> On July 20, 2019 at 3:39 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > Chuck, and Bob Hoover and Paul Poberezny would be the guys I looked up > to most as I grew up. I'm reminded of that 2002 video I posted earlier of a space program denier calling Aldrin a liar, a coward, and a thief. This is what a liar, a coward and a thief really looks like. He published this 13 years after Hoover voluntarily retired, after Hoover won the battle to get his medical certificate back. https://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/designees_delegations/designee_types/ame/fasmb/editorials_jj/bobhoover/ For those wondering what I'm talking about: https://www.leftseat.com/bob-hoover/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
> On July 20, 2019 at 4:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > If you are a 123 lister i guess so. Everybody who disagrees with the Progressives, about anything, even car modifications, is a racist. The scary part is I think most of them actually believe it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
> On July 20, 2019 at 4:09 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > 95°F > > Humidity 13% > Wind SpeedCalm > Barometer 30.11 in > Dewpoint 37°F (3°C) I'd rather have 95 with 37 dewpoint than 92 with 80 dewpoint. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Moon Landing +50 years
Truly great folks are humble and down to earth. You are lucky to have met all. I met Greg Boyington and I was close enough to touch the damaged wing of the Voyager, Rutan's ultralight around the world plane. Jeana Yeager was by it. I didn't try to talk to her. G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 7/20/19 2:48 PM: It has been my personal pleasure to have met with all three, on more than one occasion. Aviation is a pretty small world, people wise, so the opportunity came. What impressed me most, in each case, was how very human and humble they all were, despite having done "stuff". ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
If you are a 123 lister i guess so. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > You're racist against Hondas? > I didn't know that was a race. > Mitch. > >> On July 20, 2019 at 12:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> So the little snowflakes over there get all bent out of shape when I >> suggested they do their modifications to a rice burner and I get accused of >> being a racist but it’s ok to drop the F bomb right and left. The use of >> that word does not offend me but it does plenty of people and should not be >> used on a car forum. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
You're racist against Hondas? I didn't know that was a race. Mitch. > On July 20, 2019 at 12:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > So the little snowflakes over there get all bent out of shape when I > suggested they do their modifications to a rice burner and I get accused of > being a racist but it’s ok to drop the F bomb right and left. The use of that > word does not offend me but it does plenty of people and should not be used > on a car forum. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 14:46:30 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Low 90s and high humidity. Storms after 4:00 pm. > > Welcome to Florida in the summer. Glad I have AC in the garage. Made > working on the E300D this morning a real pleasure. Current conditions at Moriarty Municipal Airport (K0E0) Lat: 34.98°N Lon: 106°W Elev: 6178ft. Fair 95°F Humidity13% Wind Speed Calm Barometer 30.11 in Dewpoint37°F (3°C) Visibility 10.00 mi Heat Index 90°F (32°C) Last update 20 Jul 1:55 pm MDT I'm working on the E300D in the Big Room ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Moon Landing +50 years
It has been my personal pleasure to have met with all three, on more than one occasion. Aviation is a pretty small world, people wise, so the opportunity came. What impressed me most, in each case, was how very human and humble they all were, despite having done "stuff". On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 12:40 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Here is to all the guys with the "right stuff" who became the original > 7, and the additional guys in the Gemini and Apollo programs. And to > those who applied and were not accepted; And to all the guys in white > shirts and skinny black ties with slipsticks, and to all the grunts on > the ground who put all the pieces together so they would work. And > here's to Chuck Yeager who started it all. > > I heard a replay of an interview with Chuck Yeager. He did not apply > for the Astronaut selection because it required a kolledge degree. Chuck > had a HS diploma, but not a kolledge degree. What a loss. Chuck would > have made a great astronaut. As a kid, I remember being surprised that > Chuck was not there when they announced the first 7. I never knew > why. Now I know, it was stupidity on the part of those who set the > criteria. > > > Chuck, and Bob Hoover and Paul Poberezny would be the guys I looked up > to most as I grew up. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Happy Moon Landing +50 years
Here is to all the guys with the "right stuff" who became the original 7, and the additional guys in the Gemini and Apollo programs. And to those who applied and were not accepted; And to all the guys in white shirts and skinny black ties with slipsticks, and to all the grunts on the ground who put all the pieces together so they would work. And here's to Chuck Yeager who started it all. I heard a replay of an interview with Chuck Yeager. He did not apply for the Astronaut selection because it required a kolledge degree. Chuck had a HS diploma, but not a kolledge degree. What a loss. Chuck would have made a great astronaut. As a kid, I remember being surprised that Chuck was not there when they announced the first 7. I never knew why. Now I know, it was stupidity on the part of those who set the criteria. Chuck, and Bob Hoover and Paul Poberezny would be the guys I looked up to most as I grew up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Agreed. When everyone around here is complaining about how hot and humid it is, I’m wondering how it’s any worse that when I was a kid growing up in the Midwest. Central Indiana in the mid to late summer was just this bad, so humid it was like getting poured into a bucket. And when we were working in August in the field, like baling hay, we were wearing jeans and long sleeved shirts! I can even begin to describe what it was like working in greenhouses during that time of year, especially when we were closed up tight and sterilizing the beds with live steam... I will say that it did cool down somewhat at night, but the days were just as blistering hot and humid as they are now. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > that is just a normal summer day for most of the country. I don't know what > all the whining is about. 105, Yeah, I'd whine too. But yesterday was > around 90 in WI and NWS sent out warnings that sounded like it had never been > 90 in central WI before! Normal is "abnormal" abnormal is "normal" > Antifacist is facist someone or some people is/are trying to turn everything > upside down. Read Dr. Zhivago. (its not in the movie) > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 7/20/19 1:46 PM: >> Low 90s and high humidity. Storms after 4:00 pm. >> >> Welcome to Florida in the summer. Glad I have AC in the garage. Made working >> on the E300D this morning a real pleasure. >> >> -D >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
that is just a normal summer day for most of the country. I don't know what all the whining is about. 105, Yeah, I'd whine too. But yesterday was around 90 in WI and NWS sent out warnings that sounded like it had never been 90 in central WI before! Normal is "abnormal" abnormal is "normal" Antifacist is facist someone or some people is/are trying to turn everything upside down. Read Dr. Zhivago. (its not in the movie) Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 7/20/19 1:46 PM: Low 90s and high humidity. Storms after 4:00 pm. Welcome to Florida in the summer. Glad I have AC in the garage. Made working on the E300D this morning a real pleasure. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Low 90s and high humidity. Storms after 4:00 pm. Welcome to Florida in the summer. Glad I have AC in the garage. Made working on the E300D this morning a real pleasure. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > It has been creeping around 20c the past few days in ANC. Still a bit too > warm for the boys and girls fighting wildfires. Today will be a stretch to > make 15c and that will bring more smoke? Not sure how that functions. No > cars to work on, little in the way of yard to screw with, been rather moist > in SEA, so I will probably have tall grass to mow when I return in a week. > > > clay > >> On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It’s supposed to be 97 here today with a heat index of 112. I’m probably not >> going to work on cars today. Taking a break until tomorrow > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
I do try to reserve that for use when actually wrenching. F bombs are good for loosening recalcitrant parts with vim and gusto. For best shock value, I have decided that the unspeakable N word could replace the much overused F bomb clay > On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:15 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So the little snowflakes over there get all bent out of shape when I > suggested they do their modifications to a rice burner and I get accused of > being a racist but it’s ok to drop the F bomb right and left. The use of that > word does not offend me but it does plenty of people and should not be used > on a car forum. > > Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
the wizard does not get a kickback from Sun Valley. Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 7/20/19 1:26 PM: The real irony of this whole thing about transmissions is the guy is looking for a rebuilt transmission for his W123 and he lives in SoCal. So why wouldn’t you get it from Sun Valley??? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
It has been creeping around 20c the past few days in ANC. Still a bit too warm for the boys and girls fighting wildfires. Today will be a stretch to make 15c and that will bring more smoke? Not sure how that functions. No cars to work on, little in the way of yard to screw with, been rather moist in SEA, so I will probably have tall grass to mow when I return in a week. clay > On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s supposed to be 97 here today with a heat index of 112. I’m probably not > going to work on cars today. Taking a break until tomorrow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Goofy W123 FB People
Naaa! Tell em to put a window AC in the back window, and put the generator in the back seat. (take out the bottom cushion) Darwin! Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 7/20/19 9:57 AM: Yea that was funny. Somebody should tell him to install a window unit and a ginny in the trunk ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
The real irony of this whole thing about transmissions is the guy is looking for a rebuilt transmission for his W123 and he lives in SoCal. So why wouldn’t you get it from Sun Valley??? -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > he obviously does not have a kickback arrangement set up with sun valley! > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 7/19/19 7:40 AM: >> So Poos says there are some morons there but others are decent folks. While >> this is true, very few of them take advice of people who know but instead >> want advice from the morons. Take the recent post looking for a place to get >> a rebuilt trans. I advice him to get one from Sun Valley. The only people to >> acknowledge that are poos and rick. The OP does not acknowledge it. Instead >> it is post after post of where else he should go which the OP does respond >> to. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM606 Fuel Lines
Replaced the hard plastic fuel lines around and about the injection pump and fuel filter assembly on the eldest’s E300D today. Not a fun job, but not difficult. Amazingly, the new lines are just as hard as the originals. I figured they would be a little more flexible, but apparently not. Probably that way so they won’t collapse. I’m betting we probably could have just changed the O rings on the fittings out and all would have been well, but the new lines are pretty cheap. Replaced the shutoff valve/bolt in the top of the filter assembly, too, as the one on the car was leaking fuel through the weep hole. Also replaced the hard line for the fuel return to the main tank. The original one was some sort of weird dark blue plastic that was as hard as a rock. Good to have plenty of metric hose around on the shelf, courtesy of BelMetric. One surprise - I had a new prefilter that we installed as a part of the work. All went well, had to crank the engine for about 3-4 minutes total to get the air purged, but noticed that when the engine was shut down fuel leaked profusely from the area around the top of the prefilter. Everything was tight and the O ring appeared to be sealing properly on the fitting. Hmmm. Looked at the old prefilter. Big O ring on the top of the assembly above where the screen is attached to the plastic fitting. New (OE Mercedes) prefilter - no O ring. Got an O ring out of my O ring kit and fitted it. Not perfect as it wasn’t as wide as the correct one, but the diameter was right so it appears to be sealing. Called my dealer parts guy (he works Saturdays) and he’s got one in stock, so I’ll snag it on Monday. I’m surprised that the O ring isn’t supplied on the replacement filter. And no, there wasn’t a plastic bag in the package. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
he obviously does not have a kickback arrangement set up with sun valley! Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 7/19/19 7:40 AM: So Poos says there are some morons there but others are decent folks. While this is true, very few of them take advice of people who know but instead want advice from the morons. Take the recent post looking for a place to get a rebuilt trans. I advice him to get one from Sun Valley. The only people to acknowledge that are poos and rick. The OP does not acknowledge it. Instead it is post after post of where else he should go which the OP does respond to. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Goofy W123 FB People
Camping last night was weird, it was super hot but an occasional breeze would make you shivver... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 9:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In Texas? In the summer? I would rather have 2/60 AC (two windows open going down the road at 60 mph). Come down here and try it. That frozen water bottle will be liquid in minutes. I drove the finnie to work yesterday morning at 5:30 am. The windows fogged up from running the AC because the dew point was so high. I had to use the defroster to keep my windshield clear. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've seen some that run on D cells, basically a fan blowing over a water > bottle. > You're supposed to freeze the water bottle. It might help for a short > commute. > Mitch. >> On July 20, 2019 at 8:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> My favorite so far this week is the guy in Texas with non-operational AC who >> was asking about possibly using a little “personal” swamp cooler (Arctic Air >> Ultra - $29.99) in his car to stay cool. >> >> Heh. I gotta admit, some of these people are a real trip. >> >> -D >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Steve ran his Metz-Weiss semi-diesel this morning, big fun preheating that at 90F in the barn... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 7:57 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: After today we've got several days of highs in the 70s and lows in the 50s. But I'm guessing that won't hit you until Monday. Mitch. > On July 20, 2019 at 7:38 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > We're at a Coleman gathering in Whately MA. My buddy Steve and his dad run > the Whately engine museum.Tonight we've got a wedding.Both are extra fun at > 90F... > > Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 123 list
Puts me in mind of this quote, attributed to Arabian: “He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool; shun him. He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a student; Teach him. He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep; Wake him. He who knows, and knows that he knows, is Wise; Follow him.” > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb > Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 12:15 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: [MBZ] The 123 list > > So the little snowflakes over there get all bent out of shape when I > suggested they do their modifications to a rice burner and I get accused of > being a racist but it’s ok to drop the F bomb right and left. The use of > that word does not offend me but it does plenty of people and should not be > used on a car forum. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The 123 list
So the little snowflakes over there get all bent out of shape when I suggested they do their modifications to a rice burner and I get accused of being a racist but it’s ok to drop the F bomb right and left. The use of that word does not offend me but it does plenty of people and should not be used on a car forum. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Here in the PNW temps are in the 50s. This week it will be clear skies with lows in the 50s and highs in the 80s. Perfect! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 4:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Message We're at a Coleman gathering in Whately MA. My buddy Steve and his dad run the Whately engine museum.Tonight we've got a wedding.Both are extra fun at 90F... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 7:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Just Checking… -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
> On July 20, 2019 at 10:24 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I want to move in with Mitch right away. Where are you, Mitch? 94°F today, cold front coming soon. https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/charlotte-mi/48813/hourly-weather-forecast/21250_pc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It’s supposed to be 97 here today with a heat index of 112. I’m probably not going to work on cars today. Taking a break until tomorrow Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > 92F here already. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 7:39 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> We're at a Coleman gathering in Whately MA. My buddy Steve and his dad run >> the Whately engine museum.Tonight we've got a wedding.Both are extra fun at >> 90F... >> >> Curt >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 7:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes< >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Just Checking… >> >> -D >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
You failed. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 6:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just Checking… > > -D > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yea that was funny. Somebody should tell him to install a window unit and a ginny in the trunk Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > My favorite so far this week is the guy in Texas with non-operational AC who > was asking about possibly using a little “personal” swamp cooler (Arctic Air > Ultra - $29.99) in his car to stay cool. > > Heh. I gotta admit, some of these people are a real trip. > > -D > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I had to use the heater on Thursday. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I want to move in with Mitch right away. Where are you, Mitch? Andrew in sweltering DC. On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 10:02 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 92F here already. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 7:39 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > We're at a Coleman gathering in Whately MA. My buddy Steve and his dad > run > > the Whately engine museum.Tonight we've got a wedding.Both are extra fun > at > > 90F... > > > > Curt > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 7:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes< > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Just Checking… > > > > -D > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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92F here already. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 7:39 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We're at a Coleman gathering in Whately MA. My buddy Steve and his dad run > the Whately engine museum.Tonight we've got a wedding.Both are extra fun at > 90F... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 7:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Just Checking… > > -D > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In Texas? In the summer? I would rather have 2/60 AC (two windows open going down the road at 60 mph). Come down here and try it. That frozen water bottle will be liquid in minutes. I drove the finnie to work yesterday morning at 5:30 am. The windows fogged up from running the AC because the dew point was so high. I had to use the defroster to keep my windshield clear. -D > On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've seen some that run on D cells, basically a fan blowing over a water > bottle. > You're supposed to freeze the water bottle. It might help for a short > commute. > Mitch. >> On July 20, 2019 at 8:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> My favorite so far this week is the guy in Texas with non-operational AC who >> was asking about possibly using a little “personal” swamp cooler (Arctic Air >> Ultra - $29.99) in his car to stay cool. >> >> Heh. I gotta admit, some of these people are a real trip. >> >> -D >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've seen some that run on D cells, basically a fan blowing over a water bottle. You're supposed to freeze the water bottle. It might help for a short commute. Mitch. > On July 20, 2019 at 8:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > My favorite so far this week is the guy in Texas with non-operational AC who > was asking about possibly using a little “personal” swamp cooler (Arctic Air > Ultra - $29.99) in his car to stay cool. > > Heh. I gotta admit, some of these people are a real trip. > > -D > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Someone there posted a vid of a 126 with a generator and window unit. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > My favorite so far this week is the guy in Texas with non-operational AC who > was asking about possibly using a little “personal” swamp cooler (Arctic Air > Ultra - $29.99) in his car to stay cool. > > Heh. I gotta admit, some of these people are a real trip. > > -D > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Goofy W123 FB People
My favorite so far this week is the guy in Texas with non-operational AC who was asking about possibly using a little “personal” swamp cooler (Arctic Air Ultra - $29.99) in his car to stay cool. Heh. I gotta admit, some of these people are a real trip. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I didn’t drive the $500E300 to KY yesterday like I had planned to do --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just Checking… > > -D > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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After today we've got several days of highs in the 70s and lows in the 50s. But I'm guessing that won't hit you until Monday. Mitch. > On July 20, 2019 at 7:38 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > We're at a Coleman gathering in Whately MA. My buddy Steve and his dad run > the Whately engine museum.Tonight we've got a wedding.Both are extra fun at > 90F... > > Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We're at a Coleman gathering in Whately MA. My buddy Steve and his dad run the Whately engine museum.Tonight we've got a wedding.Both are extra fun at 90F... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 7:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Just Checking… -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Just Checking… -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
