Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I have a friend who had a 67 galaxie when I met him.   I believe his 
parents bought it new.  He got over 300 k with it.  He replaces each 
frod with another.  Each one got over 300k.  BTW he was an A when I 
met him, working on a degree in Aero E.   Since he gradgitated, he has 
worked for a major aircraft mfgr.   He takes fastidious car of each car, 
as Manfred does.


We thought it was a big deal when the 65 chevey got to 250k back in 1972 
or so.   300k on a domestic car was unheard of back then, but he did it.


Now the shovey was a used one.   Most used cars had the odo rolled back 
in those days.   Who knows if this one did or didn't.   But care and 
type of driving make a bigger difference than brand, or name or engine.


Kinda majik how domestic cars that rarely made it to 200k routinely go 
250k to 350k as soon as carfax and such made hiding the odo rollback 
difficult.   But the 6 cyl engines GM made in the mid 60s were crap, as 
the bigwigs were trying to kill off the 6 cyl.




Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 5:52 PM:

Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups last a long 
time".
But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco went 300k", or "the 
transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even "the transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 
150k", although with additional knowledge we can say "the connector that had an oil related failure in 
Mitch's W140 trans at 145k is a common failure point for 722.6 and a cheap fix if caught early". For all I know, a 
Toyota enthusiast would have fixed Byron's truck with a $15 part and 2 gallons of ATF, like my S420 trans.
   
Mitch.






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[MBZ] New Technologies Prompt New Industry Oil Standards

[Craig via Mercedes]

It looks like we may have to be more aware when purchasing oil ...


Craig


https://www.amsoil.com/newsstand/articles/new-technology-new-standards/

New Technologies Prompt New Industry Standards
ILSAC GF-6 and API SP

Original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) are under pressure to improve
fuel economy and reduce emissions. As a result, most new engines today
use some combination of turbochargers, direct-fuel injection and variable
valve timing to deliver better fuel economy and increase horsepower.

The trend of lighter engine oils to achieve these goals continues with
0W-16 viscosities emerging in the market and 0W-12 and 0W-8 expected to
follow. The industry has responded to these ultra-light viscosities with
two new oil specifications: ILSAC GF-6 and API SP.

We Are Already There

Our claims about using advanced technology aren’t just talk, and this
specification update proves it. AMSOIL synthetic motor oils already meet
or exceed the new industry standards and require no change in
formulation. This is not the first time we’ve been in this position.
While the competition works on making major formulation adjustments, we
just have to update our labels. The new specifications are not allowed to
be displayed on labels until May 1, 2020. Expect to see updated AMSOIL
labels then.

The Big Split

The International Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee
(ILSAC) recently set a new precedent in the passenger-car motor oil
market by splitting its specification into two parts:

GF-6A – backward compatible, provides protection for a variety of older
and newer engines

GF-6B – not backward compatible, for use in select new vehicles

Both versions focus on wear protection, prevention of low-speed
pre-ignition (LSPI) and improved engine cleanliness. However, GF-6B
features a more stringent fuel economy test. Engine oils can easily be
identified as ILSAC GF-6A or 6B by the API emblem on the front label of
the packaging. A shield will represent the GF-6B specification, while the
traditional starburst will indicate a GF-6A product. Both ILSAC
specifications meet the industry-standard API SP specification which is
most commonly found in owners’ manuals.

To learn more, visit amsoil.com/lspi.

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

> The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming
> weirdness. Why they thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll
> never know... 

Maybe they hung out with the MBUSA folks and smoke the same stuff.

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Re: [MBZ] Tesla Model 3: More "Global Climate Change" than a Mercedes

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Project for Rick?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That would be a decent deal. Car looks nice. If all the bits are there

--FT
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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Go get it, tiger. $1500 and the hard stuff is done.
> 
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1973-450sl-project-for-sale.3029482/
> 
> -D
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 300SL

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Those seem pretty popular. If it’s in really nice shape $5k would be a 
reasonable selling price from what I’m seeing in the 129 FB group. Might even 
ask 6 leave some negotiating room. $3500 would be a good place to start for a 
flip. 

--FT
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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Neighbor came over tonight while I was messing around in the garage. Seems 
> his mother in law has a 1993 300SL that she has owned since new that she 
> wants to sell. It’s got around 105k on the clock, I think he said it was 
> white. Don’t know any more about the provenance, but I asked him to check if 
> she had service records and where it has been maintained. She’s in Ft. 
> Lauderdale (heaven’s waiting room as it’s known) and was originally from 
> Michigan. He said he was pretty sure the car was garaged in the winters.
> 
> He’s emailing me details and pictures. She even had a pretty realistic idea 
> of price, with an ask around $5k but would settle for $3.5k.
> 
> Once I know more I’ll post it. If anyone is interested drop me a private 
> message. He offered me dibs on it but the last thing I need right now is 
> another car, much less a pre-facelift R129 with a 3 liter engine.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Checking ATF level - am I doing it wrong?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Dipstick shows no ATF. What's going on?

Umm, the level is low?  What other interpretation would you have?
It must be checked with the engine running, else it reads WAY too
high.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 1993 300SL

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Neighbor came over tonight while I was messing around in the garage. Seems his 
mother in law has a 1993 300SL that she has owned since new that she wants to 
sell. It’s got around 105k on the clock, I think he said it was white. Don’t 
know any more about the provenance, but I asked him to check if she had service 
records and where it has been maintained. She’s in Ft. Lauderdale (heaven’s 
waiting room as it’s known) and was originally from Michigan. He said he was 
pretty sure the car was garaged in the winters.

He’s emailing me details and pictures. She even had a pretty realistic idea of 
price, with an ask around $5k but would settle for $3.5k.

Once I know more I’ll post it. If anyone is interested drop me a private 
message. He offered me dibs on it but the last thing I need right now is 
another car, much less a pre-facelift R129 with a 3 liter engine.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one?

A friend had one he traded in on a Ford f150. It had about 400k miles on it. It 
needed very few repairs, if any. They are very sound pick-ups. They have a very 
commanding resale value too.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Checking ATF level - am I doing it wrong?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

He’s good, tranny is a little low. Just got off the phone and walked him 
through it.

The dipstick in that transmission has a lot of marks for temperature, not like 
the “range” style dipsticks in other models.

Safe travels!

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 1995 E300 Diesel. Page 81 of the owner's manual says park on level, engine at 
> idle, transmission lever on Park, then use either cold or hot markers on the 
> dipstick as appropriate.
> 
> Dipstick shows no ATF. What's going on? Shut off the engine, dipstick reads 
> at the low end of hot, which is where I think it should be as I've just 
> driven about twenty miles. Turn on engine, no ATF on the dipstick!
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Checking ATF level - am I doing it wrong?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

1995 E300 Diesel. Page 81 of the owner's manual says park on level, engine at 
idle, transmission lever on Park, then use either cold or hot markers on the 
dipstick as appropriate.
 
Dipstick shows no ATF. What's going on? Shut off the engine, dipstick reads at 
the low end of hot, which is where I think it should be as I've just driven 
about twenty miles. Turn on engine, no ATF on the dipstick!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups last a 
long time".
But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco went 
300k", or "the transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even "the 
transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 150k", although with additional 
knowledge we can say "the connector that had an oil related failure in Mitch's 
W140 trans at 145k is a common failure point for 722.6 and a cheap fix if 
caught early". For all I know, a Toyota enthusiast would have fixed Byron's 
truck with a $15 part and 2 gallons of ATF, like my S420 trans.
  
Mitch.

> On October 15, 2019 at 5:30 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> That said all our cars that we bought at new or 
> near new, 94 Chevy Astro, 78 Jeep Cherokee, 69 VW 
> beetle, all did over 300k miles. Some more then 
> others and all except the Beetle without major 
> work. I rebuilt the beetle engine once but I was 
> rather hard on it at the time.

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Scion, like Saturn, was meant to sell for no-haggle MSRP.

> On October 15, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I gave some serious thought to an xB when they first came out, but the 
> dealers wouldn’t deal on them because of the demand. I figured it would be a 
> good cheep commuter car. Only thing I didn’t care for was the dash and parts 
> of the interior were really cheap and plasticky.

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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Questions: Are those little rectangular fog lamps original? I cannot 
recall ever seeing such.

What is the badge on the grill?

Randy

On 15/10/2019 5:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/537541153739813/

Apparently right in my hood

1973 Mercedes-Benz 280se 4.5
Johns Island, SC· 19 hours ago 
· 


$28,750




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[MBZ] wow

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/537541153739813/

Apparently right in my hood

1973 Mercedes-Benz 280se 4.5
Johns Island, SC· 19 hours ago 
· 


$28,750

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 11,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Green · Interior color: White

Seller's Description

1973 Mercedes 280se 4.5. Only 11,000 documented miles! Car has been 
stored in a climate controlled garage and inspected every year since it 
was new. Comes with all manuals and documents. It also has the original 
Mercedes tool kit and factory car cover. Perfect in every way. Has never 
seen snow or rain. Rare color combination of the green and white 
leather. The undercarriage has no rust, nor does any other area of the 
car - the factory undercoating is still in phenomenal condition. 
Weather-stripping is also in great shape. Rear deck and all wood in the 
car is clean, no fading, or cracks anywhere. I have more pictures 
available upon interest of the vehicle. Willing to ship the car at the 
buyers expense and arrangement. Will release the car once bank transfer 
or cashiers check is validated and clears. Car is for sale in the US only.


--
--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[MG via Mercedes]

On rereading it I see what you mean. I like to 
watch a lot of auto racing and downhill skiing and 
have seen on OTA broadcasts a lot of pixilating, 
more in the background then the center of focus. I 
guess I will give it a try and see how it goes.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, the Tablo does H.264, but then again, so do a lot of streaming devices. 
As our OTA stuff is no better than 720p for the most part, there’s little to no 
loss. That and the majority of what we watch form the Tablo is stuff that’s low 
res, like old Perry Mason episodes, so again, quality isn’t usually an issue. 
Not that it matters much, but I’ve got a 4GB hard drive on the Tablo for 
storage, so I’m storing at the highest (8 Mbps/second) bandwidth possible, too.

I think the key phrase here is "It'll depend on your network and what devices 
you're streaming to”.

My network is 1Gb copper for most of the house, with the master bedroom using 
5GHz wifi from a mesh network that has a node maybe 15 feet away. Signal 
strength is solid.

-D



On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:11 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

I got the impression that it had nothing to do with bandwidth. Here is a quote 
of what I read,

What's not so good about Tablo?

One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little technical. Tablo has some additional 
hardware inside that "transcodes" the video stream from MPEG-2 to H.264. If 
you're not up on your video codecs (and we don't blame you at all if that isn't the sort 
of thing you think of on a regular basis), that means the video stream is converted from 
one format to another.

The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: Tablo transcodes the video so 
that it takes up less room on the hard drive when you're recording, and so that 
it requires less bandwidth when you're streaming the video to various devices 
in your home.

Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. But the downsides to this? 
First is that there's a noticeable lag time when you change to a different and 
it starts the transcoding process. We're talking 10 or 15 seconds or so. If 
you're an impatient channel flipper (ahem), you'll absolutely notice this.

The other thing is that video quality can definitely suffer a bit, even though 
H.264 is supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your network and what 
devices you're streaming to — there can be a lot of variables here. Just be 
prepared, is all we're saying.


So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it isn't that noticeable.

Just wanted to get another opinion.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, but 
we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a Succaneers game 
is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture quality is not a 
concern.
There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes to 
pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here it 
rarely occurs.
-D

On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Thanks Dan,

One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem in 
fast action shots so I was wondering about that.

MG

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how things 
will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with both 
streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups that are 
wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
-D

On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
causes in quick action scenes and sports.

MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.
I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.
-D
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Pluto TV is an app that lets you watch free TV, too. It’s got a lot of old 
stuff on it, but there’s some more modern things, too. Kind of fun to just 
troll through it to see what’s there.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been watching Netflix and Amazon Prime mostly, the quality seems to be 
> getting better.  I have like 15Mbps cnxn so plenty of bandwidth.  It's really 
> weird, every evening at like 11:44PM the bandwidth goes to like a 56k dial up 
> connection, picture gets all blocky.  This is every night at almost exactly 
> the same time.  i don't know if I have some device that is calling home, or 
> my cnxn goes into fits for some reason, or what, but it is really weird. 
> After a minute or so it will recover and the picture slowly gets better, I 
> guess as it buffers or something.
> 
> Amazon Prime has a bunch of other channel apps you can download, i was 
> leeching HBO I think, and it had a lot of stuff too. The AppleTV also has 
> lots of stuff, including the PBS app so you can watch most everything on 
> that.  The news is a day later, but who cares, nothing changes anyway.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 10/15/19 5:11 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
>> I got the impression that it had nothing to do with bandwidth. Here is a 
>> quote of what I read,
>> 
>> What's not so good about Tablo?
>> 
>> One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little technical. Tablo has some 
>> additional hardware inside that "transcodes" the video stream from MPEG-2 to 
>> H.264. If you're not up on your video codecs (and we don't blame you at all 
>> if that isn't the sort of thing you think of on a regular basis), that means 
>> the video stream is converted from one format to another.
>> 
>> The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: Tablo transcodes the video so 
>> that it takes up less room on the hard drive when you're recording, and so 
>> that it requires less bandwidth when you're streaming the video to various 
>> devices in your home.
>> 
>> Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. But the downsides to this? 
>> First is that there's a noticeable lag time when you change to a different 
>> and it starts the transcoding process. We're talking 10 or 15 seconds or so. 
>> If you're an impatient channel flipper (ahem), you'll absolutely notice this.
>> 
>> The other thing is that video quality can definitely suffer a bit, even 
>> though H.264 is supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your network and 
>> what devices you're streaming to — there can be a lot of variables here. 
>> Just be prepared, is all we're saying.
>> 
>> 
>> So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it isn't that noticeable.
>> 
>> Just wanted to get another opinion.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, 
>>> but we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a 
>>> Succaneers game is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture 
>>> quality is not a concern.
>>> 
>>> There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes 
>>> to pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here 
>>> it rarely occurs.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Thanks Dan,
 
 One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem 
 in fast action shots so I was wondering about that.
 
 MG
 
 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how 
> things will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with 
> both streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups 
> that are wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
> -D
>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
>> I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the 
>> transcoding  causes in quick action scenes and sports.
>> 
>> MG
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back 
>>> of a chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut 
>>> the cord. Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR 
>>> and YouTube TV we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for 
>>> about $50/month compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet 
>>> access costs me about $50/month.
>>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store 
>>> this week and handing them their boxes back.
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[MG via Mercedes]

damn straight I will when I get fed up with 
garbage from people who have never owned one.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Wow! Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think.

Randy


On 15/10/2019 3:32 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be 
considered good?

As long as a Mercedes?

My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since new. Like she stole it 
(80 mph +). $22K for a 4 door 2wd with a lid on the bed.


Had oil changes every 5000mi. Repairs you ask? One COP and the rear 
wheel bearings at 290K. Replaced the belts and hoses twice just 
because. That's it!!! Has any of your cars needed so little?


Show me any of your Mercedes or mine that have had so little work 
needed done to them over 330K miles which is what it has on it. Still 
doesn't leak or burn oil.


Hell! I put more than that into my 83 Mercedes to get it up to not 
even near that good a condition.


Get one of them and run it and see how good it is before you run them 
down on the say so of idiots that use a vehicle without any 
maintenance done to it and expect it to last a million miles without 
an oil change.


Bunch of wankers!




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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[MG via Mercedes]

right but you don't know what was done to it or 
how it was serviced. Just because it was dealer 
serviced does not mean it was done right. I did 
all the service on our Tacoma so all I can say is 
that either we got very lucky and got a good car 
or there is something that went on with your 
neighbors car that no one is telling.


That said all our cars that we bought at new or 
near new, 94 Chevy Astro, 78 Jeep Cherokee, 69 VW 
beetle, all did over 300k miles. Some more then 
others and all except the Beetle without major 
work. I rebuilt the beetle engine once but I was 
rather hard on it at the time.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

My next door neighbor traded his Taco a year or two ago when the dealer wanted 
to replace the transmission on it. I'm not sure how well maintained it was, but 
it was dealer serviced, not driven much, and until the last two years of its 
life the neighbor's fastidious ex boyfriend had a hand in the maintenance of 
vehicles and lawn equipment. I can't imagine a trans service being skipped when 
he was around. Unfortunately the guy didn't fit in a 2018 Taco, so he had to 
buy a Tundra this time around (he buys only Toyota/Scion and has way over 200k 
on his xB, but he's still unhappy about the Taco letting him down)
Mitch

On October 15, 2019 at 4:32 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:


Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long 
should it last to be considered good?

As long as a Mercedes?

My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since 
new. Like she stole it (80 mph +). $22K for a 4 
door 2wd with a lid on the bed.




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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have been watching Netflix and Amazon Prime mostly, the quality seems 
to be getting better.  I have like 15Mbps cnxn so plenty of bandwidth.  
It's really weird, every evening at like 11:44PM the bandwidth goes to 
like a 56k dial up connection, picture gets all blocky.  This is every 
night at almost exactly the same time.  i don't know if I have some 
device that is calling home, or my cnxn goes into fits for some reason, 
or what, but it is really weird. After a minute or so it will recover 
and the picture slowly gets better, I guess as it buffers or something.


Amazon Prime has a bunch of other channel apps you can download, i was 
leeching HBO I think, and it had a lot of stuff too. The AppleTV also 
has lots of stuff, including the PBS app so you can watch most 
everything on that.  The news is a day later, but who cares, nothing 
changes anyway.


--FT

On 10/15/19 5:11 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
I got the impression that it had nothing to do with bandwidth. Here is 
a quote of what I read,


What's not so good about Tablo?

One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little technical. Tablo has 
some additional hardware inside that "transcodes" the video stream 
from MPEG-2 to H.264. If you're not up on your video codecs (and we 
don't blame you at all if that isn't the sort of thing you think of on 
a regular basis), that means the video stream is converted from one 
format to another.


The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: Tablo transcodes the 
video so that it takes up less room on the hard drive when you're 
recording, and so that it requires less bandwidth when you're 
streaming the video to various devices in your home.


Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. But the downsides to 
this? First is that there's a noticeable lag time when you change to a 
different and it starts the transcoding process. We're talking 10 or 
15 seconds or so. If you're an impatient channel flipper (ahem), 
you'll absolutely notice this.


The other thing is that video quality can definitely suffer a bit, 
even though H.264 is supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your 
network and what devices you're streaming to — there can be a lot of 
variables here. Just be prepared, is all we're saying.



So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it isn't that noticeable.

Just wanted to get another opinion.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of 
bandwidth, but we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports 
unless maybe a Succaneers game is on, and that’s just to enjoy the 
sucking, so picture quality is not a concern.


There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it 
comes to pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the 
antennas here it rarely occurs.


-D


On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  
wrote:


Thanks Dan,

One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture 
problem in fast action shots so I was wondering about that.


MG

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We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for 
how things will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. 
That’s with both streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It 
also includes setups that are wired as well as streaming over WiFi.

-D
On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the 
transcoding  causes in quick action scenes and sports.


MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the 
back of a chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s 
time to cut the cord. Did a lot of research and found that 
between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can get nearly 
everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to 
over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about 
$50/month.
I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company 
store this week and handing them their boxes back.

-D
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[MBZ] Project for Rick?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Go get it, tiger. $1500 and the hard stuff is done.

https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1973-450sl-project-for-sale.3029482/

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, the Tablo does H.264, but then again, so do a lot of streaming devices. 
As our OTA stuff is no better than 720p for the most part, there’s little to no 
loss. That and the majority of what we watch form the Tablo is stuff that’s low 
res, like old Perry Mason episodes, so again, quality isn’t usually an issue. 
Not that it matters much, but I’ve got a 4GB hard drive on the Tablo for 
storage, so I’m storing at the highest (8 Mbps/second) bandwidth possible, too.

I think the key phrase here is "It'll depend on your network and what devices 
you're streaming to”.

My network is 1Gb copper for most of the house, with the master bedroom using 
5GHz wifi from a mesh network that has a node maybe 15 feet away. Signal 
strength is solid.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:11 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I got the impression that it had nothing to do with bandwidth. Here is a 
> quote of what I read,
> 
> What's not so good about Tablo?
> 
> One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little technical. Tablo has some 
> additional hardware inside that "transcodes" the video stream from MPEG-2 to 
> H.264. If you're not up on your video codecs (and we don't blame you at all 
> if that isn't the sort of thing you think of on a regular basis), that means 
> the video stream is converted from one format to another.
> 
> The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: Tablo transcodes the video so 
> that it takes up less room on the hard drive when you're recording, and so 
> that it requires less bandwidth when you're streaming the video to various 
> devices in your home.
> 
> Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. But the downsides to this? 
> First is that there's a noticeable lag time when you change to a different 
> and it starts the transcoding process. We're talking 10 or 15 seconds or so. 
> If you're an impatient channel flipper (ahem), you'll absolutely notice this.
> 
> The other thing is that video quality can definitely suffer a bit, even 
> though H.264 is supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your network and 
> what devices you're streaming to — there can be a lot of variables here. Just 
> be prepared, is all we're saying.
> 
> 
> So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it isn't that noticeable.
> 
> Just wanted to get another opinion.
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, 
>> but we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a 
>> Succaneers game is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture 
>> quality is not a concern.
>> There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes 
>> to pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here it 
>> rarely occurs.
>> -D
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Dan,
>>> 
>>> One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem in 
>>> fast action shots so I was wondering about that.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
 We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how 
 things will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with 
 both streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups 
 that are wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
 -D
> On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
> I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding 
>  causes in quick action scenes and sports.
> 
> MG
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back 
>> of a chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut 
>> the cord. Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR 
>> and YouTube TV we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for 
>> about $50/month compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet 
>> access costs me about $50/month.
>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
>> week and handing them their boxes back.
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Some similar options:
https://m.facebook.com/search/top/?q=datsun%20pickup=content_filter=0.6612099121608328=typeahead

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 5:10 PM Karl Wittnebel  wrote:

> My point precisely. If you think the Grand Canyon is forbidding, remote or
> unimproved, you need to recalibrate your definitions of those terms. If a
> bunch of Bedouin with no formal mechanical training can run these things in
> the open desert, to the near exclusion of any other sort of vehicle at all,
> for decades, it speaks volumes about the efficiency, reliability and
> repairability of said trucks. Not to mention that they are lightweight and
> easy to get unstuck with a sand ladder or two. They are basically a Willys
> jeep without 4wd, only better. Parts are literally everywhere. The
> Datsun/Nissan equivalent is also a fine vehicle.
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 4:33 PM MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long
>> should it last to be considered good?
>> As long as a Mercedes?
>>
>> My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since
>> new. Like she stole it (80 mph +). $22K for a 4
>> door 2wd with a lid on the bed.
>>
>> Had oil changes every 5000mi. Repairs you ask? One
>> COP and the rear wheel bearings at 290K. Replaced
>> the belts and hoses twice just because. That's
>> it!!! Has any of your cars needed so little?
>>
>> Show me any of your Mercedes or mine that have had
>> so little work needed done to them over 330K miles
>> which is what it has on it. Still doesn't leak or
>> burn oil.
>>
>> Hell! I put more than that into my 83 Mercedes to
>> get it up to not even near that good a condition.
>>
>> Get one of them and run it and see how good it is
>> before you run them down on the say so of idiots
>> that use a vehicle without any maintenance done to
>> it and expect it to last a million miles without
>> an oil change.
>>
>> Bunch of wankers!
>>
>>
>> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting
>> even though it’s also cheap crap.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name
>> never stuck here in the US.
>> >>
>> >> Curt
>> >>
>> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> >>
>> >>  On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Again, read my original post. I would
>> raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I mean.
>> >>
>> >> This too, will pass.
>> >>
>> >> -D
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most
>> junkyards to find what remains of one in most of the country.  Near the
>> ocean they rusted top down. Elsewhere, bottom up.
>> >>>
>> >>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM:
>>  Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me
>> to put the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve
>> got.
>> 
>>  Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop
>> me a PM and I’ll pass it along.
>> 
>>  -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

My point precisely. If you think the Grand Canyon is forbidding, remote or
unimproved, you need to recalibrate your definitions of those terms. If a
bunch of Bedouin with no formal mechanical training can run these things in
the open desert, to the near exclusion of any other sort of vehicle at all,
for decades, it speaks volumes about the efficiency, reliability and
repairability of said trucks. Not to mention that they are lightweight and
easy to get unstuck with a sand ladder or two. They are basically a Willys
jeep without 4wd, only better. Parts are literally everywhere. The
Datsun/Nissan equivalent is also a fine vehicle.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 4:33 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:

> Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long
> should it last to be considered good?
> As long as a Mercedes?
>
> My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since
> new. Like she stole it (80 mph +). $22K for a 4
> door 2wd with a lid on the bed.
>
> Had oil changes every 5000mi. Repairs you ask? One
> COP and the rear wheel bearings at 290K. Replaced
> the belts and hoses twice just because. That's
> it!!! Has any of your cars needed so little?
>
> Show me any of your Mercedes or mine that have had
> so little work needed done to them over 330K miles
> which is what it has on it. Still doesn't leak or
> burn oil.
>
> Hell! I put more than that into my 83 Mercedes to
> get it up to not even near that good a condition.
>
> Get one of them and run it and see how good it is
> before you run them down on the say so of idiots
> that use a vehicle without any maintenance done to
> it and expect it to last a million miles without
> an oil change.
>
> Bunch of wankers!
>
>
> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> > Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even
> though it’s also cheap crap.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never
> stuck here in the US.
> >>
> >> Curt
> >>
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>
> >>  On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Again, read my original post. I would
> raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I mean.
> >>
> >> This too, will pass.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most
> junkyards to find what remains of one in most of the country.  Near the
> ocean they rusted top down. Elsewhere, bottom up.
> >>>
> >>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM:
>  Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to
> put the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve
> got.
> 
>  Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop
> me a PM and I’ll pass it along.
> 
>  -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[MG via Mercedes]

I got the impression that it had nothing to do 
with bandwidth. Here is a quote of what I read,


What's not so good about Tablo?

One thing we haven't touched on yet gets a little 
technical. Tablo has some additional hardware 
inside that "transcodes" the video stream from 
MPEG-2 to H.264. If you're not up on your video 
codecs (and we don't blame you at all if that 
isn't the sort of thing you think of on a regular 
basis), that means the video stream is converted 
from one format to another.


The idea behind this is twofold, in this case: 
Tablo transcodes the video so that it takes up 
less room on the hard drive when you're recording, 
and so that it requires less bandwidth when you're 
streaming the video to various devices in your home.


Transcoding in and of itself is not a bad thing. 
But the downsides to this? First is that there's a 
noticeable lag time when you change to a different 
and it starts the transcoding process. We're 
talking 10 or 15 seconds or so. If you're an 
impatient channel flipper (ahem), you'll 
absolutely notice this.


The other thing is that video quality can 
definitely suffer a bit, even though H.264 is 
supposed to help with that. It'll depend on your 
network and what devices you're streaming to — 
there can be a lot of variables here. Just be 
prepared, is all we're saying.



So I don't know if they have fixed it or if it 
isn't that noticeable.


Just wanted to get another opinion.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, but 
we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a Succaneers game 
is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture quality is not a 
concern.

There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes to 
pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here it 
rarely occurs.

-D



On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Thanks Dan,

One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem in 
fast action shots so I was wondering about that.

MG

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how things 
will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with both 
streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups that are 
wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
-D

On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
causes in quick action scenes and sports.

MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.
I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.
-D
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I gave some serious thought to an xB when they first came out, but the dealers 
wouldn’t deal on them because of the demand. I figured it would be a good cheep 
commuter car. Only thing I didn’t care for was the dash and parts of the 
interior were really cheap and plasticky.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My next door neighbor traded his Taco a year or two ago when the dealer 
> wanted to replace the transmission on it. I'm not sure how well maintained it 
> was, but it was dealer serviced, not driven much, and until the last two 
> years of its life the neighbor's fastidious ex boyfriend had a hand in the 
> maintenance of vehicles and lawn equipment. I can't imagine a trans service 
> being skipped when he was around. Unfortunately the guy didn't fit in a 2018 
> Taco, so he had to buy a Tundra this time around (he buys only Toyota/Scion 
> and has way over 200k on his xB, but he's still unhappy about the Taco 
> letting him down)
> Mitch
>> On October 15, 2019 at 4:32 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long 
>> should it last to be considered good?
>> As long as a Mercedes?
>> 
>> My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since 
>> new. Like she stole it (80 mph +). $22K for a 4 
>> door 2wd with a lid on the bed.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

My next door neighbor traded his Taco a year or two ago when the dealer wanted 
to replace the transmission on it. I'm not sure how well maintained it was, but 
it was dealer serviced, not driven much, and until the last two years of its 
life the neighbor's fastidious ex boyfriend had a hand in the maintenance of 
vehicles and lawn equipment. I can't imagine a trans service being skipped when 
he was around. Unfortunately the guy didn't fit in a 2018 Taco, so he had to 
buy a Tundra this time around (he buys only Toyota/Scion and has way over 200k 
on his xB, but he's still unhappy about the Taco letting him down)
Mitch
> On October 15, 2019 at 4:32 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long 
> should it last to be considered good?
> As long as a Mercedes?
> 
> My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since 
> new. Like she stole it (80 mph +). $22K for a 4 
> door 2wd with a lid on the bed.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Wow! Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think.

Randy


On 15/10/2019 3:32 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be 
considered good?

As long as a Mercedes?

My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since new. Like she stole it 
(80 mph +). $22K for a 4 door 2wd with a lid on the bed.


Had oil changes every 5000mi. Repairs you ask? One COP and the rear 
wheel bearings at 290K. Replaced the belts and hoses twice just 
because. That's it!!! Has any of your cars needed so little?


Show me any of your Mercedes or mine that have had so little work 
needed done to them over 330K miles which is what it has on it. Still 
doesn't leak or burn oil.


Hell! I put more than that into my 83 Mercedes to get it up to not 
even near that good a condition.


Get one of them and run it and see how good it is before you run them 
down on the say so of idiots that use a vehicle without any 
maintenance done to it and expect it to last a million miles without 
an oil change.


Bunch of wankers!




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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s certainly possible, especially if you don’t have a lot of bandwidth, but 
we haven’t seen it. We don’t really watch sports unless maybe a Succaneers game 
is on, and that’s just to enjoy the sucking, so picture quality is not a 
concern.

There’s more of an issue with the OTA (over the air) stations when it comes to 
pixellation or quality, but again, we’re so close to the antennas here it 
rarely occurs.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:05 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan,
> 
> One of the reviewers was saying something about a slight picture problem in 
> fast action shots so I was wondering about that.
> 
> MG
> 
> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how 
>> things will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with 
>> both streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups 
>> that are wired as well as streaming over WiFi.
>> -D
>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
>>> I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
>>> causes in quick action scenes and sports.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of 
 a chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the 
 cord. Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and 
 YouTube TV we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about 
 $50/month compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access 
 costs me about $50/month.
 I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
 week and handing them their boxes back.
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[MG via Mercedes]

Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long 
should it last to be considered good?

As long as a Mercedes?

My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since 
new. Like she stole it (80 mph +). $22K for a 4 
door 2wd with a lid on the bed.


Had oil changes every 5000mi. Repairs you ask? One 
COP and the rear wheel bearings at 290K. Replaced 
the belts and hoses twice just because. That's 
it!!! Has any of your cars needed so little?


Show me any of your Mercedes or mine that have had 
so little work needed done to them over 330K miles 
which is what it has on it. Still doesn't leak or 
burn oil.


Hell! I put more than that into my 83 Mercedes to 
get it up to not even near that good a condition.


Get one of them and run it and see how good it is 
before you run them down on the say so of idiots 
that use a vehicle without any maintenance done to 
it and expect it to last a million miles without 
an oil change.


Bunch of wankers!


Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even though 
it’s also cheap crap.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never stuck 
here in the US.

Curt

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 On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   Again, read my original post. I would 
raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I mean.

This too, will pass.

-D



On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:

he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most junkyards to 
find what remains of one in most of the country.  Near the ocean they rusted 
top down. Elsewhere, bottom up.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM:

Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put the 
word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got.

Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a PM and 
I’ll pass it along.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[MG via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan,

 One of the reviewers was saying something about 
a slight picture problem in fast action shots so I 
was wondering about that.


MG

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how things 
will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with both 
streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups that are 
wired as well as streaming over WiFi.

-D


On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
causes in quick action scenes and sports.

MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. Did 
a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV we can 
get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month compared to over 
$125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me about $50/month.
I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this week 
and handing them their boxes back.
-D
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Like George Bush?

https://youtu.be/ljrIFqbmKp8

-D



> On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even 
>> though it’s also cheap crap.
> 
> I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name starts 
> with "Taco".
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 19:07:11 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> >Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting
> >even though it’s also cheap crap.
> 
> I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name
> starts with "Taco".

As in, "Make me a taco, ma!"


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even 
>though it’s also cheap crap.

I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name starts 
with "Taco".


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Yes, but aren’t rear LCAs hard to come by these days?


Perhaps new. I have several. 


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$200 would probably get it, sell the roof racks for $40, turn it into a 
runner and sell it to the FakeBook crowd for big money


--FT

On 10/15/19 2:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

SOmebody should save that.  Rear LCA is no big deal.

Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 1:04 PM:

Pahtz too.

fred4s...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
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1984 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, but aren’t rear LCAs hard to come by these days?

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> SOmebody should save that.  Rear LCA is no big deal.
> 
> Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 1:04 PM:
>> Pahtz too.
>> 
>> fred4s...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>> --
>> 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel
>> 
>> https://hartford.craigslist.org/pts/6999792619.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

SOmebody should save that.  Rear LCA is no big deal.

Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 1:04 PM:

Pahtz too.

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even though 
it’s also cheap crap.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never stuck 
> here in the US.
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via 
> Mercedes wrote:   Again, read my original post. I 
> would raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I 
> mean.
> 
> This too, will pass.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most junkyards to 
>> find what remains of one in most of the country.  Near the ocean they rusted 
>> top down. Elsewhere, bottom up.
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM:
>>> Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put 
>>> the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got.
>>> 
>>> Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a PM 
>>> and I’ll pass it along.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Given my understanding of the situation, getting _anything_ exotic would be 
stupid.
Buy whatever 4wd that meets your needs that the region is dripping with, but 
avoiding
lemon models, and Just Drive.  Save the exotics for secondary toys.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Pahtz too.

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1973 Mercedes for parts

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Pahtz

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Exactly my point.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> A half junk Wrangler still brings $4-5000. Same price buys a much more useful 
> and less junky pickup.
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How about Nissan and their Qashqai?

Translation is supposedly, "A horse with a white forehead".

Randy

On 15/10/2019 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming weirdness. Why they 
thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll never know...
Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Acronym for Toyota Racing Development, I believe.

Randy


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I have to wonder who came up with the “TRD” thing, as they probably weren’t 
that familiar with the English language or slang terms.

-D





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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A half junk Wrangler still brings $4-5000. Same price buys a much more useful 
and less junky pickup.
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   If the service aspect wasn’t an issue 
I would suggest an ML. I think they would do fairly well in that environment.

Jeeps are stupid expensive. A coworker just bought a new one and it’s so tarted 
up I can’t imagine stuff staying in place if they took it off-road.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bet a Jeep Scrambler has future collector potential.
> 
> Oops, they already want more than 20k for those things.
> Tell him to get a rusty ML55 and chop it down into a dune buggy.
> Mitch.
> 
>> On October 15, 2019 at 10:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> He’s been in the pickup truck mode for a while,
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

He might find it a fair bit easier to find a 4Runner which would be 
about the same in running gear. I had a 95 which is the 2nd generation 
and apart from rusting, it was fairly decent. The 3rd generation has 
more power, and more interior space. If he can find one in AZ that might 
avoid the rust issues.


I had a 70 Hilux back in about 74 and sold it in 75. It was a neat 
little truck but had a very small cab. Not much legroom.


Randy

On 13/10/2019 7:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put the 
word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got.

Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a PM and 
I’ll pass it along.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming weirdness. Why they 
thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll never know...
Curt

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  On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:46 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote:  
 Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a 
Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables. And 
they left the U out of TRD.  
Kevin in Hillsboro, .OR
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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never 
> stuck here in the US.
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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>  On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via 
>Mercedes wrote:  Again, read my original post. I would 
>raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I mean.
> 
> This too, will pass.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most junkyards to 
>> find what remains of one in most of the country.  Near the ocean they rusted 
>> top down. Elsewhere, bottom up.
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM:
>>> Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put 
>>> the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got.
>>> 
>>> Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a PM 
>>> and I’ll pass it along.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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I have to wonder who came up with the “TRD” thing, as they probably weren’t 
that familiar with the English language or slang terms.

-D


 
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky 
> and turd.
> 
> Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:46 AM:
>> Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a 
>> Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables. 
>> And they left the U out of TRD.
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, .OR
>> 1982 240D High Mileage Hildegard
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Back around 1970, J I Case had a proving ground near their backhoe and 
bulldozer plant at Burlington.  One of the guys who worked there drove a 
220Sb.  The employees would have offroad races around the place.  Think 
motocross in a car.    The 220Sb won almost all the time, according to 
what he told me.   220Sb won the Argentine grand prix, (which is pretty 
much offroad) in the 60s.


My 190Dc was far better on crappy pothole/washboard tracks than any 
merkun car or truck.


If he could fix it himself, a ML is probably as good a choice as any. 
But if someone else has to work on it, then you are on the right track, Dan



Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:47 AM:

If the service aspect wasn’t an issue I would suggest an ML. I think they would 
do fairly well in that environment.

Jeeps are stupid expensive. A coworker just bought a new one and it’s so tarted 
up I can’t imagine stuff staying in place if they took it off-road.

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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as 
tacky and turd.


Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:46 AM:

Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a 
Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables. And 
they left the U out of TRD.
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

They sold the little crapboxes as hilux in the USA for decades.   The 
bowties renamed it tacky because the hilux had a reputation for melting 
into iron oxide before your eyes.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:28 AM:

A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never stuck 
here in the US.

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If the service aspect wasn’t an issue I would suggest an ML. I think they would 
do fairly well in that environment.

Jeeps are stupid expensive. A coworker just bought a new one and it’s so tarted 
up I can’t imagine stuff staying in place if they took it off-road.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bet a Jeep Scrambler has future collector potential.
> 
> Oops, they already want more than 20k for those things.
> Tell him to get a rusty ML55 and chop it down into a dune buggy.
> Mitch.
> 
>> On October 15, 2019 at 10:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> He’s been in the pickup truck mode for a while,
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Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a 
Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables. And 
they left the U out of TRD.  
Kevin in Hillsboro, .OR
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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> 
> A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never 
> stuck here in the US.
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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>  On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via 
> Mercedes wrote:   Again, read my original post. I 
> would raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I 
> mean.
> 
> This too, will pass.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most junkyards to 
>> find what remains of one in most of the country.  Near the ocean they rusted 
>> top down. Elsewhere, bottom up.
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM:
>>> Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put 
>>> the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got.
>>> 
>>> Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a PM 
>>> and I’ll pass it along.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never stuck 
here in the US.

Curt

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  On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   Again, read my original post. I would 
raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I mean.

This too, will pass.

-D


> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most junkyards to 
> find what remains of one in most of the country.  Near the ocean they rusted 
> top down. Elsewhere, bottom up.
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM:
>> Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put 
>> the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got.
>> 
>> Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a PM 
>> and I’ll pass it along.
>> 
>> -D
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I want it.  That and a Mog and I would be set.

--FT

On 10/15/19 10:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

The rust... so frightening.


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A lotta car for very little money, so far...


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The rust... so frightening.


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> A lotta car for very little money, so far...
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I bet a Jeep Scrambler has future collector potential.

Oops, they already want more than 20k for those things.
Tell him to get a rusty ML55 and chop it down into a dune buggy.
Mitch.

> On October 15, 2019 at 10:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Depends on your definition of off road:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrUD4mSvZms
> On October 15, 2019 at 9:51 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> 
> This time it was an aesthetics and functionality thing. He likes the 
> simplicity and the styling of the W124, but thinks he can off road with 
> 4Matic.

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A lotta car for very little money, so far...

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He’s been in the pickup truck mode for a while, but balks at considering 
anything domestic for some unknown reason. As I’ve mentioned before, a decent 
used domestic truck like a Ford, Chevy or Dodge would be ideal, as there would 
be no problem at all finding support for them in such a remote area.

I’ve planted the seed several times, but I’m still waiting for it to sprout. I 
suspect it will at some point in the future. Hopefully sooner than later.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:01 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
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> Got it. How about a Jeep Wrangler ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We’re talking about using it in an area like northern Arizona. Extremely 
>> rugged, extremely rural. Not tooling around on improved roads much of the 
>> time. No service facilities or a place to work on it should something break.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:55 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why? My brother uses a 1989 w124 300TE non 4matic as a “work truck” and 
>>> it’s one tough car. 330K miles, engine needs valve guides but he keeps 
>>> driving it and adding oil, cleaning/replacing fouled plugs as needed.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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  wrote:
 
 Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up 
 on it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, 
 haven’t heard.
 
 At least I was able to talk him out of a W124 wagon with 4Matic. He had 
 some idea that it would be a good alternative to a 4WD pickup truck.
 
 -D
 
 
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> $6k
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Got it. How about a Jeep Wrangler ?

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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We’re talking about using it in an area like northern Arizona. Extremely 
> rugged, extremely rural. Not tooling around on improved roads much of the 
> time. No service facilities or a place to work on it should something break.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:55 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> Why? My brother uses a 1989 w124 300TE non 4matic as a “work truck” and it’s 
>> one tough car. 330K miles, engine needs valve guides but he keeps driving it 
>> and adding oil, cleaning/replacing fouled plugs as needed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up 
>>> on it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, 
>>> haven’t heard.
>>> 
>>> At least I was able to talk him out of a W124 wagon with 4Matic. He had 
>>> some idea that it would be a good alternative to a 4WD pickup truck.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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  wrote:
 
 $6k
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We’re talking about using it in an area like northern Arizona. Extremely 
rugged, extremely rural. Not tooling around on improved roads much of the time. 
No service facilities or a place to work on it should something break.

-D



> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:55 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Why? My brother uses a 1989 w124 300TE non 4matic as a “work truck” and it’s 
> one tough car. 330K miles, engine needs valve guides but he keeps driving it 
> and adding oil, cleaning/replacing fouled plugs as needed.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up 
>> on it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, 
>> haven’t heard.
>> 
>> At least I was able to talk him out of a W124 wagon with 4Matic. He had some 
>> idea that it would be a good alternative to a 4WD pickup truck.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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>>> 
>>> $6k
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Why? My brother uses a 1989 w124 300TE non 4matic as a “work truck” and it’s 
one tough car. 330K miles, engine needs valve guides but he keeps driving it 
and adding oil, cleaning/replacing fouled plugs as needed.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up on 
> it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, haven’t 
> heard.
> 
> At least I was able to talk him out of a W124 wagon with 4Matic. He had some 
> idea that it would be a good alternative to a 4WD pickup truck.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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>> $6k
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This time it was an aesthetics and functionality thing. He likes the simplicity 
and the styling of the W124, but thinks he can off road with 4Matic.

I suggested a W210 4Matic, as they’re far more common, less expensive, and more 
reliable and easier to maintain. I pointed out that the original 4Matics were 
troublesome and prone to leakage.

But hey, what do I know, right?

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I hauled a lot of construction materials (including 80BF of dirty rough sawn 
> cherry) in my mint interior 1999 4matic. 
> Interior was far from mint after I had it a month.
> Only real problems I ever had with that car were dead fuel pump (inline and 
> easy to swap), rusty brake lines, and HVAC gremlins.
> But 124 4Matic is an entirely different can of worms.
> 
>> On October 15, 2019 at 9:25 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up 
>> on it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, 
>> haven’t heard.
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I hauled a lot of construction materials (including 80BF of dirty rough sawn 
cherry) in my mint interior 1999 4matic. 
Interior was far from mint after I had it a month.
Only real problems I ever had with that car were dead fuel pump (inline and 
easy to swap), rusty brake lines, and HVAC gremlins.
But 124 4Matic is an entirely different can of worms.

> On October 15, 2019 at 9:25 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up on 
> it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, haven’t 
> heard.

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up on 
it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, haven’t 
heard.

At least I was able to talk him out of a W124 wagon with 4Matic. He had some 
idea that it would be a good alternative to a 4WD pickup truck.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> $6k
> https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/D0C3D0C8-55D1-42C1-9703-14624BAF8CCB_png-1123526.JPG
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

$6k
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Re: [MBZ] Cord Cutting

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

We’re working off our alternate sources right now to get a feel for how things 
will be, and we haven’t had any quality issues so far. That’s with both 
streaming services as well as the OTA stuff. It also includes setups that are 
wired as well as streaming over WiFi.

-D

> On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:26 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Did you buy this yet or are you just in the considering stage?
> I was wondering as to how much degradation of the picture the transcoding  
> causes in quick action scenes and sports.
> 
> MG
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Our cable company (Comcast/Spectrum) is about to bend us over the back of a 
>> chair since our ”promotional” pricing is over so it’s time to cut the cord. 
>> Did a lot of research and found that between a Tablo OTA DVR and YouTube TV 
>> we can get nearly everything she enjoys watching for about $50/month 
>> compared to over $125/month when prices go up. Internet access costs me 
>> about $50/month.
>> I’m looking forward to stopping in at the local cable company store this 
>> week and handing them their boxes back.
>> -D
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