date:20191130

On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:31:20 -0500 Frederick Moir via Mercedes
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> Greetings, Earthlings and Others.
> Whilst cleaning up my cellar, wheels were discovered.
> 5 ea. 124 400 18 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 49 1986-1988  W124 etc
> Two with junk tyres, three without.
> 4 ea.  124 401 07 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 48  1986-1994 W124 etc.
> Three with junk tyres, one without.
> 3 ea.   126 400 41 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 215 1986-1991 420SE SEL etc.
> Two with junk tyres, one without.
> Free to anyone on the list, if not/then Craigslist.
> OT Question.

I already have 5 extra W124 rims, so I'll pass. The shipping would be
rather high to New Mexico ...


> Nissan Sentra with loose cover over the RR tail light.
> I need a recommendation for an adhesive, preferably clear and somewhat
> flexible.
> Any ideas? (Useful ones!)

Shoe Goo
http://eclecticproducts.com/products/shoe-goo/shoe-goo.html

Unicorn Spit sounds interesting, but it's not what you want
http://eclecticproducts.com/products/unicorn-spit/unicorn-spit-gel-stain-and-glaze-in-one.html


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fw: Wheels + OT

2019-11-30 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Fred-for adhesive -a clear silicone tub caulk?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 9:32 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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> Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred.
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> Greetings, Earthlings and Others.
> Whilst cleaning up my cellar, wheels were discovered.
> 5 ea. 124 400 18 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 49 1986-1988  W124 etc
> Two with junk tyres, three without.
> 4 ea.  124 401 07 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 48  1986-1994 W124 etc.
> Three with junk tyres, one without.
> 3 ea.   126 400 41 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 215 1986-1991 420SE SEL etc.
> Two with junk tyres, one without.
> Free to anyone on the list, if not/then Craigslist.
> OT Question.
> Nissan Sentra with loose cover over the RR tail light.
> I need a recommendation for an adhesive, preferably clear and somewhat
> flexible.
> Any ideas? (Useful ones!)
> TIA.
> Fred.
>
>
> Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred.
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[MBZ] Fwd: Fw: Wheels + OT

2019-11-30 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes

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Subject: Fw: Wheels + OT
To: Frederick Moir 

Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred.

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*Subject:* Wheels + OT

Greetings, Earthlings and Others.
Whilst cleaning up my cellar, wheels were discovered.
5 ea. 124 400 18 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 49 1986-1988  W124 etc
Two with junk tyres, three without.
4 ea.  124 401 07 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 48  1986-1994 W124 etc.
Three with junk tyres, one without.
3 ea.   126 400 41 02 6.5Jx15H2 ET 215 1986-1991 420SE SEL etc.
Two with junk tyres, one without.
Free to anyone on the list, if not/then Craigslist.
OT Question.
Nissan Sentra with loose cover over the RR tail light.
I need a recommendation for an adhesive, preferably clear and somewhat
flexible.
Any ideas? (Useful ones!)
TIA.
Fred.

Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred.

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[MBZ] Fwd: Cars & trucks

2019-11-30 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

2019-11-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

You "can" make a partial double flare work in a pinch, however, they really are 
totally different. I'll explain. On a double flare the back side of the flare 
that rests in the tubing nut is a cone shape. On an ISO flare or bubble flare 
the back side of the flare is flat, as is the face of the nut.

Rick


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curley McLain via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 4:37:44 PM
To: Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

I've never differentiated between double and bubble.   Double Bubble is
bubble gum.   Both are in essence the same thing.   the double is just
crimped down all the way. Bubble is the start of a double.   THe
110/111/112 used double.

This is pretty much identical to the snappy tool, only about 1/4 the
price. Back in the 70s, bobody I could find had one other than
snappy, and nobody had metric brake lines available either.  So I had to
take US brake line (3/16) and adapt it to the MB Usage by reusing the
nuts I cut off the MB.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200767034_200767034   It
is pretty similar to the one you showed in the link to the river of
warlike wimmens, except that one has hex buttons to keep them from
rotating, which I never perceived to be a problem as long as you
lubricated the cone.

I think we are mostly arguing over semantics.

> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> November 30, 2019 at 6:10 PM
> Curley, the 123 cars I have put brake lines on, and for that matter
> several newer domestic cars all have had bubble flares, not double
> flares. I have successfully used steel line and AGS tubing nuts to
> make many brake lines. I have an Eastwood flaring tool that fits in
> the vice, and an Astro tool for on the car. I use two Harbor Freight
> bending tools, one pliers type for tight bends, and one other for
> loose bends. Here are tool links. I will send a picture in another email.
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/tube-bending-pliers-95782.html
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/plumbing/plumbing-tools/1-8-eighth-inch-to-1-4-quarter-inch-tube-bender-94571.html
>
> https://www.eastwood.com/professional-brake-tubing-flaring-tool.html
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0015PMZMU?psc=1=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
>
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT - !!WARNING!! !!MASSIVE TIME SUCK AHEAD!!!

I am sure I went through the 1966 and 67 penneys wishbooks MANY times.   
Probably had a cursory look at the 70 one too.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 30, 2019 at 6:44 PM
DO NOT FOLLOW THIS LINK UNLESS YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO GIVE UP.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

http://www.wishbookweb.com/the-catalogs/

-D


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Re: [MBZ] A unique gift from Cabela's

HaHA!  THat is the same thought I had, but I sent the link to my kids 
with the comment that I never coulda sneaked that into Jr high study hall.


When I was in Jr high, my did bout some early marker type pens that were 
just under 3/8 dia OD about 1/4" ID and the barrel was about 5" long. 
They came with a metal pocket clip.   I kept a pocket protector inside 
my portfolio (remember PeeChee?) and it looked like just another pen in 
there.  I carried 2-3 sheaffer cartridge pens and a couple pencils too, 
so the protector was pretty full.  Without close scrutiny, it just 
looked like pens and pencils.  But I could put a spitball with amazing 
accuracy.   My crowning achievement was to hit the study hall teacher 
from about 30-40 ft dead center, just below the neck from where it fell 
down into hooterville.   I almost got caught, but I don't think she 
believed anyone could nail her from that distance with accuracy like that.


I still have my little peashooter somewhere.  I think it is in the 
draftpack with the drafting tools, still in a pocket protector.

Craig via Mercedes 
November 30, 2019 at 6:36 PM
On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 00:27:46 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:


I need that.

And so do a lot of junior high school students ...


Craig




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[MBZ] OT - !!WARNING!! !!MASSIVE TIME SUCK AHEAD!!!

DO NOT FOLLOW THIS LINK UNLESS YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO GIVE UP.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

http://www.wishbookweb.com/the-catalogs/

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

I've never differentiated between double and bubble. Double Bubble is
bubble gum. Both are in essence the same thing. the double is just
crimped down all the way. Bubble is the start of a double. THe
110/111/112 used double.

This is pretty much identical to the snappy tool, only about 1/4 the
price. Back in the 70s, bobody I could find had one other than
snappy, and nobody had metric brake lines available either. So I had to
take US brake line (3/16) and adapt it to the MB Usage by reusing the
nuts I cut off the MB.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200767034_200767034 It
is pretty similar to the one you showed in the link to the river of
warlike wimmens, except that one has hex buttons to keep them from
rotating, which I never perceived to be a problem as long as you
lubricated the cone.

I think we are mostly arguing over semantics.

Rick Knoble via Mercedes
November 30, 2019 at 6:10 PM
Curley, the 123 cars I have put brake lines on, and for that matter
several newer domestic cars all have had bubble flares, not double
flares. I have successfully used steel line and AGS tubing nuts to
make many brake lines. I have an Eastwood flaring tool that fits in
the vice, and an Astro tool for on the car. I use two Harbor Freight
bending tools, one pliers type for tight bends, and one other for
loose bends. Here are tool links. I will send a picture in another email.

https://www.harborfreight.com/tube-bending-pliers-95782.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/plumbing/plumbing-tools/1-8-eighth-inch-to-1-4-quarter-inch-tube-bender-94571.html

https://www.eastwood.com/professional-brake-tubing-flaring-tool.html

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0015PMZMU?psc=1=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] A unique gift from Cabela's

On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 00:27:46 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> I need that.


And so do a lot of junior high school students ...


Craig


> Nov 30, 2019 6:11:16 PM Craig via Mercedes :
>  
> > FYI.
> > 
> > https://www.cabelas.com/product/home/day-sale-all-toys/pc/105625080/c/110357280/bass-pro-tp-blaster/2780756.uts?slotId=0

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Re: [MBZ] A unique gift from Cabela's

2019-11-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes



I need that.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Nov 30, 2019 6:11:16 PM Craig via Mercedes :
 
> FYI.
> 
> https://www.cabelas.com/product/home/day-sale-all-toys/pc/105625080/c/110357280/bass-pro-tp-blaster/2780756.uts?slotId=0
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] HF work lights

I’m talking specifically about the 18150 lithium ion batteries used in the HF 
LED light.

They’re poorly made Chinese or Taiwanese imports and my experience has been 
poor with them. I went to eBay and bought name brand versions for just a little 
bit more and they’ve done far better than anything I used from Amazon. You’ll 
note there is a lot of junk on Amazon, some of which have ratings that are 
physically impossible for a battery of that capacity to have…

-D


> On Nov 30, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No quality 18650s? That seems absurd, the Amazon Basics rechargable AA and 
> AAA are the best deal going.
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 9:15 PM, Dan Penoff via 
> Mercedesmailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:   My 
> charging port failed after the first use. On the recommendation of someone on 
> another list, I bought some spare batteries and a charger. Far easier to use 
> than the USB cable as far as charging.
> 
> You can’t find quality 18150 batteries on the Island of Large Wimmen. 
> However, there are good quality name brand ones on eBay.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Some of the reviews complain about the charging port. I have a stand alone 
>> 18650 battery charger I got off of Amazon, and I got spare batteries from 
>> Walmart. Works great.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/EBL-4-Pack-18650-Battery-3000mAh-3-7v-Lithium-ion-Rechargeable-Batteries/156322396
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0096U26QQ/ref=ppx_yo_mob_b_inactive_ship_o0_img?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] HF work lights

2019-11-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

No quality 18650s? That seems absurd, the Amazon Basics rechargable AA and AAA 
are the best deal going.
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 

  On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 9:15 PM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   My charging port failed after the 
first use. On the recommendation of someone on another list, I bought some 
spare batteries and a charger. Far easier to use than the USB cable as far as 
charging.

You can’t find quality 18150 batteries on the Island of Large Wimmen. However, 
there are good quality name brand ones on eBay.

-D

> On Nov 29, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Some of the reviews complain about the charging port. I have a stand alone 
> 18650 battery charger I got off of Amazon, and I got spare batteries from 
> Walmart. Works great.
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/EBL-4-Pack-18650-Battery-3000mAh-3-7v-Lithium-ion-Rechargeable-Batteries/156322396
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0096U26QQ/ref=ppx_yo_mob_b_inactive_ship_o0_img?ie=UTF8=1
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

2019-11-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Curley, the 123 cars I have put brake lines on, and for that matter several 
newer domestic cars all have had bubble flares, not double flares. I have 
successfully used steel line and AGS tubing nuts to make many brake lines. I 
have an Eastwood flaring tool that fits in the vice, and an Astro tool for on 
the car. I use two Harbor Freight bending tools, one pliers type for tight 
bends, and one other for loose bends. Here are tool links. I will send a 
picture in another email.

https://www.harborfreight.com/tube-bending-pliers-95782.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/plumbing/plumbing-tools/1-8-eighth-inch-to-1-4-quarter-inch-tube-bender-94571.html

https://www.eastwood.com/professional-brake-tubing-flaring-tool.html

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0015PMZMU?psc=1=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Rick


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curley McLain via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 3:42:57 PM
To: Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

I had a snap-on double flare tool.  It was still difficult to get a good
double flare on the US line, and even harder to get a good one on metric
line. BTDT...starting 40+ years ago.  That's why I prefer now to buy a
length of metric line with the double flares already done.

The double flare tool is a plain old flaring tool, with an assortment of
"buttons" you stick on the end of the tube, and under the flaring tool
cone.   On the small size metric tube, the little pin that goes  in the
tube to hold the "button" in place is so thin it breaks off easily.
Snappy will NOT warrant them.  When I needed to do a double flare, I
usually bought 2-3 of them because at least one broke for ever flare I
made successfully.   There is an art to figuring out how much of the
tube to leave out of the clamp.  I think it is about 2D if memory serves.

> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> November 30, 2019 at 3:54 PM
>
> If you don't want the length to be a few inches off, just get a 25'
> roll of brake line, a box of flare nuts, and a bubble flare tool.
>
> Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

I had a snap-on double flare tool.  It was still difficult to get a good 
double flare on the US line, and even harder to get a good one on metric 
line. BTDT...starting 40+ years ago.  That's why I prefer now to buy a 
length of metric line with the double flares already done.


The double flare tool is a plain old flaring tool, with an assortment of 
"buttons" you stick on the end of the tube, and under the flaring tool 
cone.   On the small size metric tube, the little pin that goes  in the 
tube to hold the "button" in place is so thin it breaks off easily. 
Snappy will NOT warrant them.  When I needed to do a double flare, I 
usually bought 2-3 of them because at least one broke for ever flare I 
made successfully.   There is an art to figuring out how much of the 
tube to leave out of the clamp.  I think it is about 2D if memory serves.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 30, 2019 at 3:54 PM

If you don't want the length to be a few inches off, just get a 25' 
roll of brake line, a box of flare nuts, and a bubble flare tool.


Mitch


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[MBZ] A unique gift from Cabela's

FYI.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/home/day-sale-all-toys/pc/105625080/c/110357280/bass-pro-tp-blaster/2780756.uts?slotId=0


Craig

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[MBZ] Discount Tire special

If anyone needs tires, Discount Tire has a special through 02 December
for 10% off tires and 5% off wheels.

https://www.discounttire.com/promotions/black_friday

Purchase must be made between November 28 and December 2, 2019.
A set of four (4) qualifying tires and/or four (4) wheels of the same
model must be purchased at the same time.

This offer can be combined with these manufacturer rebates.


Craig

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[MBZ] Florida Wildlife for Andrew

Saw a buck in the park this morning on my walk:



Too bad I only had my 9mm Walther CCP M2 in my holster…

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

2019-11-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes



If you don't want the length to be a few inches off, just get a 25' roll of 
brake line, a box of flare nuts, and a bubble flare tool. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

Replacement tubing from the dealer will come in a straight length or possibly 
folded in half depending on the length of the piece. It is not sold “pre-bent”, 
so to speak.

Hard lines are shown in the EPC. I see them without any problem. Try looking 
here:

http://mbepc.net/1/fg/300/15v/124030/0/42/090

Note that there are tabs above the diagram labeled #1 and #2. They’re not 
terribly clear, but when you click on one of them you’ll bring up that drawing.

The line from the front to the rear “distributor” (tee) is part number 
1244201328 for example. Around $45 from the dealer.

With a VIN it’s far easier to identify the correct part(s).

-D

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> has anyone ever changed brake tubing in the rear of a 124?   It does not show 
> up in the online parts diagrams.  Someone on the PP forum was able to get a 
> coil with fittings on the ends from MB, but it had to be bent and he 
> complained it was about 3" too long.  (should be easy enough to hide 3" 
> somewhere.)
> 
> If you have changed it, what did you use for tubing and where did you find 
> the other end?   Apparently cars with the locking diff run separate lines and 
> some early models have a T above the rear axle.
> 
> As of now, I will get pieces as close as I can to the right length from FLAPS.
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] 124 rear brake tubing

has anyone ever changed brake tubing in the rear of a 124?   It does not 
show up in the online parts diagrams.  Someone on the PP forum was able 
to get a coil with fittings on the ends from MB, but it had to be bent 
and he complained it was about 3" too long.  (should be easy enough to 
hide 3" somewhere.)


If you have changed it, what did you use for tubing and where did you 
find the other end?   Apparently cars with the locking diff run separate 
lines and some early models have a T above the rear axle.


As of now, I will get pieces as close as I can to the right length from 
FLAPS.





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